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Title: Michael Jackson's Tomb -- Flower Power - TMZ...
Post by: mjfull on May 21, 2010, 10:57:00 AM
Michael Jackson's Tomb -- Flower Power
Originally posted May 21st 2010 8:40 AM PDT by TMZ Staff

Michael Jackson's tomb is ensconced in sunflowers after last week's delivery -- and now we have the pics to prove it.

(http://ll-media.tmz.com/2010/05/21/0521-mj-flower-launch-v3-credit.jpg)
http://photos.tmz.com/galleries/michael ... ost_recent (http://photos.tmz.com/galleries/michael_jacksons_tomb_with_sunflowers#tab=most_recent)

After Lisa Marie Presley made a plea for more flowers at MJ's final resting place, a flower shop delivered about 1,500 sunflowers (Jackson's fav) to Forest Lawn Cemetery in Glendale, CA.

Along with the delivery, there appear to be several individual arrangements ... with cards and all.

Lisa Marie -- mission accomplished.

Read more: http://www.tmz.com/#ixzz0oaL0kqhv (http://www.tmz.com/#ixzz0oaL0kqhv)
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Tomb -- Flower Power - TMZ...
Post by: lovemj4everandever on May 21, 2010, 11:00:54 AM
:lol:  :lol:  :lol: That's just about the WORST photoshop job I've ever seen!  OBVIOUSLY FAKE!  They must be trying to tell us that the video footage of doc Murray is also staged fake footage by posting these two tidbits one after the other.   :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Tomb -- Flower Power - TMZ...
Post by: mjfull on May 21, 2010, 11:02:43 AM
Quote from: "lovemj4everandever"
:lol:  :lol:  :lol: That's just about the WORST photoshop job I've ever seen!  OBVIOUSLY FAKE!  They must be trying to tell us that the video footage of doc Murray is also staged fake footage by posting these two tidbits one after the other.   :mrgreen:
Really???
Do you really think it's just photoshop?
I hope so...
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Tomb -- Flower Power - TMZ...
Post by: lovemj4everandever on May 21, 2010, 11:11:40 AM
Quote from: "mjfull"
Quote from: "lovemj4everandever"
:lol:  :lol:  :lol: That's just about the WORST photoshop job I've ever seen!  OBVIOUSLY FAKE!  They must be trying to tell us that the video footage of doc Murray is also staged fake footage by posting these two tidbits one after the other.   :mrgreen:
Really???
Do you really think it's just photoshop?
I hope so...

Most definitely!  It's obvious.  Look at the vases, the picture frame, etc....oh my God, so fake!   :lol:  :lol:  :mrgreen:  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Tomb -- Flower Power - TMZ...
Post by: MJonmind on May 21, 2010, 11:24:45 AM
[attachment=0:10cg5g8q]0521-mj-flower-launch-v3-credit[1].jpg[/attachment:10cg5g8q]

On another note, I have a question I've been wanting to ask for a while, maybe it's been discussed already. What are those raised pictures on the marble/granite on each side. To me they look, like a man and a child. Very strange... :?
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Tomb -- Flower Power - TMZ...
Post by: lovemj4everandever on May 21, 2010, 11:39:07 AM
Quote from: "MJonmind"
[attachment=0:2itnk1bl]0521-mj-flower-launch-v3-credit[1].jpg[/attachment:2itnk1bl]

On another note, I have a question I've been wanting to ask for a while, maybe it's been discussed already. What are those raised pictures on the marble/granite on each side. To me they look, like a man and a child. Very strange... :?

Well the "tomb" (lol) is 60 years old and has served has the decorative solid marble centerpiece for the mausoleum since it opened in 1952.  It has been published in magazines across the world for the last five decades as the centerpiece for the mausoleum, so the pictures have nothing to do with Michael.  This is just a piece of marble that is 60 years old.  I'm amazed there are people on this forum who still do not know the history of this "tomb" and believe that Michael is actually inside this solid piece of marble.  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Tomb -- Flower Power - TMZ...
Post by: Disco on May 21, 2010, 11:39:53 AM
Fans got into forest lawn & took those pictures!!
This AGAIN shows no regard for Michaels privacy, and they have to be the worst photos ever, Sorry but I do not agree with anyones final resting place been disrespected like this, thought the family choose F.L because of its privacy?!?!? No one would know where the tomb was?!?!? just proves yet again nothing is straight forward with Michael.
I'm a big MJ fan but I would never disrespect the families wishes nor would I think I have the right to see this, I've even been told that those that "Love" Michael have the right to see photos of the grave?!?!? Trying to make you feel like you mustn't love Michael if you don't want to see his grave!!!!!  :cry:

Michael hurry back please!!! The vultures are everywhere...... :evil:
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Tomb -- Flower Power - TMZ...
Post by: *Mo* on May 21, 2010, 12:19:01 PM

The photo gallery:


(http://cdn.photos.tmz.com/gallery_images/images/2010/05/michael_jackson_tomb_sunflower_03_full.jpg)

(http://cdn.photos.tmz.com/gallery_images/images/2010/05/michael_jackson_tomb_sunflower_01_full.jpg)

(http://cdn.photos.tmz.com/gallery_images/images/2010/05/michael_jackson_tomb_sunflower_06_full.jpg)

(http://cdn.photos.tmz.com/gallery_images/images/2010/05/michael_jackson_tomb_sunflower_09_full.jpg)

(http://cdn.photos.tmz.com/gallery_images/images/2010/05/michael_jackson_tomb_sunflower_07_full.jpg)

(http://cdn.photos.tmz.com/gallery_images/images/2010/05/michael_jackson_tomb_sunflower_05_full.jpg)

(http://cdn.photos.tmz.com/gallery_images/images/2010/05/michael_jackson_tomb_sunflower_02_full.jpg)

(http://cdn.photos.tmz.com/gallery_images/images/2010/05/michael_jackson_tomb_sunflower_04_full.jpg)
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Tomb -- Flower Power - TMZ...
Post by: cin_pyt on May 21, 2010, 01:23:54 PM
YES, I SAW THE PIC DEFINITELY SOMETHING DOESN'T LOOK RIGHT I AM NOT AN EXPERT IN PHOTOSHOP I'VE NEVER USED IT BUT THE FLOWERS LOOKED LIKE THEY JUST LAYERED ON TOP
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Tomb -- Flower Power - TMZ...
Post by: paula-c on May 21, 2010, 01:53:53 PM
LM complains that the fans do not have enough flowers to her grave, I think we all want to see a picture of her carrying flowers.
TMZ should post more news of this kind, if,. the days are more fun. It occurs to me a chance encounter between Conny, Arnie and Jason :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Tomb -- Flower Power - TMZ...
Post by: paula-c on May 21, 2010, 02:10:37 PM
Look at this video posted by TMZ Believe777 mausoleum in another thread and make a comparison with photos, is the same place? :?:  :lol:

http://www.tmz.com/tmz-tv/?autoplay=tru (http://www.tmz.com/tmz-tv/?autoplay=tru) ... reURL=true
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Tomb -- Flower Power - TMZ...
Post by: *Mo* on May 21, 2010, 02:14:18 PM
Quote from: "paula-c"
Look at this video posted by TMZ Believe777 mausoleum in another thread and make a comparison with photos, is the same place? :?:  :lol:

http://www.tmz.com/tmz-tv/?autoplay=tru (http://www.tmz.com/tmz-tv/?autoplay=tru) ... reURL=true

Please post the link again Paula, I got to see a video about pole dancing when I clicked your link!  :lol:
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Tomb -- Flower Power - TMZ...
Post by: cin_pyt on May 21, 2010, 02:15:11 PM
PAULA-C THANKS FOR THE IDEA NOW WE SHALL SEE A PIC OF LMP CARRYING SUNFLOWERS TO THE TOMB :lol: MIKE IS LIKE LISA GET YOUR BOOTY TO GLENDALE ASAP  :lol:
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Tomb -- Flower Power - TMZ...
Post by: Gina Jackson on May 21, 2010, 02:35:02 PM
Quote from: "*Mo*"
Quote from: "paula-c"
Look at this video posted by TMZ Believe777 mausoleum in another thread and make a comparison with photos, is the same place? :?:  :lol:

http://www.tmz.com/tmz-tv/?autoplay=tru (http://www.tmz.com/tmz-tv/?autoplay=tru) ... reURL=true

Please post the link again Paula, I got to see a video about pole dancing when I clicked your link!  :lol:

The correct links are:

viewtopic.php?f=50&t=10037#p169066 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=10037#p169066)

http://www.tmz.com/tmz-tv/?autoplay=tru ... reURL=true (http://www.tmz.com/tmz-tv/?autoplay=true&mediaKey=4f816d3b-3390-4924-ad16-3b7263643e19&isShareURL=true)

PHOTOSHOP???  HOAX,  HOAX,  HOAX.... :mrgreen:  :mrgreen:
Where is the name ??? identification??? :?:  :?:

(http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/3975/img00011200906270454.jpg) (http://img9.imageshack.us/i/img00011200906270454.jpg/)
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Tomb -- Flower Power - TMZ...
Post by: paula-c on May 21, 2010, 02:41:12 PM
Thanks Gina Jackson :)
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Tomb -- Flower Power - TMZ...
Post by: longlivetheking on May 21, 2010, 02:55:52 PM
Quote from: "*Mo*"

The photo gallery:


(http://cdn.photos.tmz.com/gallery_images/images/2010/05/michael_jackson_tomb_sunflower_03_full.jpg)

(http://cdn.photos.tmz.com/gallery_images/images/2010/05/michael_jackson_tomb_sunflower_01_full.jpg)

(http://cdn.photos.tmz.com/gallery_images/images/2010/05/michael_jackson_tomb_sunflower_06_full.jpg)

(http://cdn.photos.tmz.com/gallery_images/images/2010/05/michael_jackson_tomb_sunflower_09_full.jpg)

(http://cdn.photos.tmz.com/gallery_images/images/2010/05/michael_jackson_tomb_sunflower_07_full.jpg)

(http://cdn.photos.tmz.com/gallery_images/images/2010/05/michael_jackson_tomb_sunflower_05_full.jpg)

(http://cdn.photos.tmz.com/gallery_images/images/2010/05/michael_jackson_tomb_sunflower_02_full.jpg)

(http://cdn.photos.tmz.com/gallery_images/images/2010/05/michael_jackson_tomb_sunflower_04_full.jpg)

who is the lady in red in the 4th photo?  a fan -- she is holding a camera...  How'd she get that close to that piece of marble if fans cannot get inside.  Was she photoshopped in as well???  As I stated before, Shamone TMZ, TRY AGAIN!
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Tomb -- Flower Power - TMZ...
Post by: voiceforthesilent on May 21, 2010, 02:58:41 PM
Interesting comments by TMZ in that link provided. I do have to say about the flowers..that even though I believe that crypt is empty I am one that had flowers sent for good measure. You can see them in the picture. They are yellow :)
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Tomb -- Flower Power - TMZ...
Post by: Ijustcantstoplovingu on May 21, 2010, 03:29:52 PM
Quote from: "voiceforthesilent"
Interesting comments by TMZ in that link provided. I do have to say about the flowers..that even though I believe that crypt is empty I am one that had flowers sent for good measure. You can see them in the picture. They are yellow :)


Most of the flowers are yellow!  Can you be more specific :?

 ;)
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Tomb -- Flower Power - TMZ...
Post by: smiles on May 21, 2010, 04:09:40 PM
well one thing i find very odd.. how come the kids never visit their dads resting-place??? if your dad died wouldn't you go visit him? i know i would.. :(
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Tomb -- Flower Power - TMZ...
Post by: Puff on May 21, 2010, 04:24:15 PM
Quote from: "Gina Jackson"
http://www.tmz.com/tmz-tv/?autoplay=tru ... reURL=true (http://www.tmz.com/tmz-tv/?autoplay=true&mediaKey=4f816d3b-3390-4924-ad16-3b7263643e19&isShareURL=true)



This video is hilarious....  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Tomb -- Flower Power - TMZ...
Post by: *Mo* on May 21, 2010, 05:08:59 PM
Quote from: "Puff"
Quote from: "Gina Jackson"
http://www.tmz.com/tmz-tv/?autoplay=tru ... reURL=true (http://www.tmz.com/tmz-tv/?autoplay=true&mediaKey=4f816d3b-3390-4924-ad16-3b7263643e19&isShareURL=true)



This video is hilarious....  :lol:  :lol:

I'm crying from laughter, thanks Harvey!!  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Tomb -- Flower Power - TMZ...
Post by: hesouttamylife on May 21, 2010, 05:17:27 PM
I believe the flowers are real.  I believe fans send all those things to the crypt.  However, I also believe that many of them are resting in the homes of the staff at Forest Lawn or on e-bay somewhere.  They are duping Michael's followers and probably getting a big laugh out of it.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Tomb -- Flower Power - TMZ...
Post by: voiceforthesilent on May 21, 2010, 05:25:46 PM
Quote from: "Ijustcantstoplovingu"
Quote from: "voiceforthesilent"
Interesting comments by TMZ in that link provided. I do have to say about the flowers..that even though I believe that crypt is empty I am one that had flowers sent for good measure. You can see them in the picture. They are yellow :)


Most of the flowers are yellow!  Can you be more specific :?

 ;)

it was a joke. I sent flowers but how would I know which ones they are or even if they actually arrived at the right place?
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Tomb -- Flower Power - TMZ...
Post by: angelwings on May 21, 2010, 05:53:52 PM
Did I just hear that right?  "But until a decision is made, there is only one visitor Michael can count on"  
then cuts to a video of himself singing? :lol:


Quote from: "Puff"
Quote from: "Gina Jackson"
http://www.tmz.com/tmz-tv/?autoplay=tru ... reURL=true (http://www.tmz.com/tmz-tv/?autoplay=true&mediaKey=4f816d3b-3390-4924-ad16-3b7263643e19&isShareURL=true)



This video is hilarious....  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Tomb -- Flower Power - TMZ...
Post by: LSK on May 21, 2010, 06:01:58 PM
Quote from: "Puff"
Quote from: "Gina Jackson"
http://www.tmz.com/tmz-tv/?autoplay=tru ... reURL=true (http://www.tmz.com/tmz-tv/?autoplay=true&mediaKey=4f816d3b-3390-4924-ad16-3b7263643e19&isShareURL=true)



This video is hilarious....  :lol:  :lol:

Great post. My tummy actually hurts from laughing so much  :lol:
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Tomb -- Flower Power - TMZ...
Post by: DancingTheDream on May 21, 2010, 06:02:48 PM
Quote from: "smiles"
well one thing i find very odd.. how come the kids never visit their dads resting-place??? if your dad died wouldn't you go visit him? i know i would.. :(


Two words:  Jehovah Witness
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Tomb -- Flower Power - TMZ...
Post by: cin_pyt on May 21, 2010, 06:04:47 PM
hadn't had a chance to watch the vid, but now I did so funny, Mike made it haha. Mike is gentle, nice, genius, but the man is funny he's got a great sense of humor all we need is Mike the comedian shamone! this is too much already haha  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Tomb -- Flower Power - TMZ...
Post by: PureLove on May 21, 2010, 06:05:25 PM
Quote from: "Puff"
Quote from: "Gina Jackson"
http://www.tmz.com/tmz-tv/?autoplay=tru ... reURL=true (http://www.tmz.com/tmz-tv/?autoplay=true&mediaKey=4f816d3b-3390-4924-ad16-3b7263643e19&isShareURL=true)



This video is hilarious....  :lol:  :lol:

So we're having a Thriller night huh?   :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Tomb -- Flower Power - TMZ...
Post by: PureLove on May 21, 2010, 06:11:42 PM
Quote from: "smiles"
well one thing i find very odd.. how come the kids never visit their dads resting-place??? if your dad died wouldn't you go visit him? i know i would.. :(

It's because their dad is NOT there because he's alive. Why is it so hard for you to understand this? After 11 months you guys still aren't sure that Michael is alive?  :roll:
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Tomb -- Flower Power - TMZ...
Post by: PureLove on May 21, 2010, 06:14:22 PM
Quote from: "angelwings"
Did I just hear that right?  "But until a decision is made, there is only one visitor Michael can count on"  
then cuts to a video of himself singing? :lol:

That cracked me up too  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Tomb -- Flower Power - TMZ...
Post by: DancingTheDream on May 21, 2010, 06:20:14 PM
Quote from: "PureLove"
Quote from: "smiles"
well one thing i find very odd.. how come the kids never visit their dads resting-place??? if your dad died wouldn't you go visit him? i know i would.. :(

It's because their dad is NOT there because he's alive. Why is it so hard for you to understand this? After 11 months you guys still aren't sure that Michael is alive?  :roll:

No i am not.  I am 50/50 and am currently leaning towards a murder conspiracy and the hoax being fuelled by $ony, etc.

Its swings and roundabouts.  I can go full circle on this.

I havent seen proof he is dead and i havent seen proof he is alive.  I keep an open mind and explore all possibilities.  Im an investigator.  I just want the truth.  Thats why i am here.  Because if it turns out Michael was murdered, then i want to know who, how and why.  If i go into this investigation with an agenda and a pre-planned belief in my head, then i can get side tracked and scewed in my findings and objectivity.

Its all for Michael.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Tomb -- Flower Power - TMZ...
Post by: PureLove on May 21, 2010, 06:27:00 PM
Quote from: "DancingTheDream"
Quote from: "PureLove"
Quote from: "smiles"
well one thing i find very odd.. how come the kids never visit their dads resting-place??? if your dad died wouldn't you go visit him? i know i would.. :(

It's because their dad is NOT there because he's alive. Why is it so hard for you to understand this? After 11 months you guys still aren't sure that Michael is alive?  :roll:

No i am not.  I am 50/50 and am currently leaning towards a murder conspiracy and the hoax being fuelled by $ony, etc.

Its swings and roundabouts.  I can go full circle on this.

I havent seen proof he is dead and i havent seen proof he is alive.  I keep an open mind and explore all possibilities.  Im an investigator.  I just want the truth.  Thats why i am here.  Because if it turns out Michael was murdered, then i want to know who, how and why.  If i go into this investigation with an agenda and a pre-planned belief in my head, then i can get side tracked and scewed in my findings and objectivity.

Its all for Michael.

You haven't seen any proof that he is alive??? If you haven't seen any proof that he is alive then why and how did you start to investigate?
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Tomb -- Flower Power - TMZ...
Post by: LSK on May 21, 2010, 06:35:22 PM
Quote from: "PureLove"
Quote from: "DancingTheDream"
Quote from: "PureLove"
Quote from: "smiles"
well one thing i find very odd.. how come the kids never visit their dads resting-place??? if your dad died wouldn't you go visit him? i know i would.. :(

It's because their dad is NOT there because he's alive. Why is it so hard for you to understand this? After 11 months you guys still aren't sure that Michael is alive?  :roll:

No i am not.  I am 50/50 and am currently leaning towards a murder conspiracy and the hoax being fuelled by $ony, etc.

Its swings and roundabouts.  I can go full circle on this.

I havent seen proof he is dead and i havent seen proof he is alive.  I keep an open mind and explore all possibilities.  Im an investigator.  I just want the truth.  Thats why i am here.  Because if it turns out Michael was murdered, then i want to know who, how and why.  If i go into this investigation with an agenda and a pre-planned belief in my head, then i can get side tracked and scewed in my findings and objectivity.

Its all for Michael.

You haven't seen any proof that he is alive??? If you haven't seen any proof that he is alive then why and how did you start to investigate?

I'm 50/50 on it too. We've found a lot of inconsistencies but nothing that can be described as absolute proof.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Tomb -- Flower Power - TMZ...
Post by: Believe 777 on May 21, 2010, 06:38:14 PM
Quote from: "angelwings"
Did I just hear that right?  "But until a decision is made, there is only one visitor Michael can count on"  
then cuts to a video of himself singing? :lol:


Quote from: "Puff"
Quote from: "Gina Jackson"
http://www.tmz.com/tmz-tv/?autoplay=tru ... reURL=true (http://www.tmz.com/tmz-tv/?autoplay=true&mediaKey=4f816d3b-3390-4924-ad16-3b7263643e19&isShareURL=true)



This video is hilarious....  :lol:  :lol:

I'm so pleased that so many of you find this as hilarious as I do :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
I posted this video earlier after finding it on the other forum. They were all disgusted with it there.
I couldn't stop laughing, this is the funniest ever, thanks TMZ/Michael, I needed that  ;)  

The song at the end even has the first two lines written on the screen for us:-

"Ben, the two of us need look NO MORE...
WE BOTH FOUND WHAT WE WERE LOOKING FOR"!!!!!!!!!!

Credit to Gina jackson for spotting this as well:-  The TOPIC number is " 333 " of TMZ.COM and 6645 posts: 6+6+4+5= 21 (2+1=3)
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Tomb -- Flower Power - TMZ...
Post by: PureLove on May 21, 2010, 06:45:46 PM
Quote from: "LSK"
Quote from: "PureLove"
Quote from: "DancingTheDream"
Quote from: "PureLove"
Quote from: "smiles"
well one thing i find very odd.. how come the kids never visit their dads resting-place??? if your dad died wouldn't you go visit him? i know i would.. :(

It's because their dad is NOT there because he's alive. Why is it so hard for you to understand this? After 11 months you guys still aren't sure that Michael is alive?  :roll:

No i am not.  I am 50/50 and am currently leaning towards a murder conspiracy and the hoax being fuelled by $ony, etc.

Its swings and roundabouts.  I can go full circle on this.

I havent seen proof he is dead and i havent seen proof he is alive.  I keep an open mind and explore all possibilities.  Im an investigator.  I just want the truth.  Thats why i am here.  Because if it turns out Michael was murdered, then i want to know who, how and why.  If i go into this investigation with an agenda and a pre-planned belief in my head, then i can get side tracked and scewed in my findings and objectivity.

Its all for Michael.

You haven't seen any proof that he is alive??? If you haven't seen any proof that he is alive then why and how did you start to investigate?

I'm 50/50 on it too. We've found a lot of inconsistencies but nothing that can be described as absolute proof.

Got nothing to say to you guys. Hope you can be sure soon like the most of us here and start to enjoy the show. ;)
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Tomb -- Flower Power - TMZ...
Post by: hesouttamylife on May 21, 2010, 06:47:03 PM
OMG, Michael & Ben reunited again.  That is ... :(  :?  :P  :)  :D  :lol:
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Tomb -- Flower Power - TMZ...
Post by: DancingTheDream on May 21, 2010, 06:51:18 PM
Quote from: "PureLove"
Quote from: "LSK"
Quote from: "PureLove"
Quote from: "DancingTheDream"
Quote from: "PureLove"
Quote from: "smiles"
well one thing i find very odd.. how come the kids never visit their dads resting-place??? if your dad died wouldn't you go visit him? i know i would.. :(

It's because their dad is NOT there because he's alive. Why is it so hard for you to understand this? After 11 months you guys still aren't sure that Michael is alive?  :roll:

No i am not.  I am 50/50 and am currently leaning towards a murder conspiracy and the hoax being fuelled by $ony, etc.

Its swings and roundabouts.  I can go full circle on this.

I havent seen proof he is dead and i havent seen proof he is alive.  I keep an open mind and explore all possibilities.  Im an investigator.  I just want the truth.  Thats why i am here.  Because if it turns out Michael was murdered, then i want to know who, how and why.  If i go into this investigation with an agenda and a pre-planned belief in my head, then i can get side tracked and scewed in my findings and objectivity.

Its all for Michael.

You haven't seen any proof that he is alive??? If you haven't seen any proof that he is alive then why and how did you start to investigate?

I'm 50/50 on it too. We've found a lot of inconsistencies but nothing that can be described as absolute proof.

Got nothing to say to you guys. Hope you can be sure soon like the most of us here and start to enjoy the show. ;)

Let people investigate and come to their own decisions.   I cannot "enjoy the show" and i never have.  I respect your decision, so please respect mine.

For me.. its about getting the truth out for Michael.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Tomb -- Flower Power - TMZ...
Post by: MJonmind on May 21, 2010, 07:05:39 PM
I thought it meant the visitor was Ben, the rat.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Tomb -- Flower Power - TMZ...
Post by: PureLove on May 21, 2010, 07:09:28 PM
Quote from: "DancingTheDream"



Let people investigate and come to their own decisions.   I cannot "enjoy the show" and i never have.  I respect your decision, so please respect mine.

For me.. its about getting the truth out for Michael.

Who said that I didn't respect your decision? That's the reason why I wrote "I got nothing to say to you". I just want everyone to understand it all and these kind of things that come from TMZ make us happy and amuse us. And when I see sad faces around here, it makes me sad too. Hope you find the truth soon girl. :)
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Tomb -- Flower Power - TMZ...
Post by: paula-c on May 21, 2010, 07:14:05 PM
Do you think the same location that appears in the photos, there is something different in the grave? :?:  :P
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Tomb -- Flower Power - TMZ...
Post by: DancingTheDream on May 21, 2010, 07:16:46 PM
Quote from: "PureLove"
Quote from: "DancingTheDream"



Let people investigate and come to their own decisions.   I cannot "enjoy the show" and i never have.  I respect your decision, so please respect mine.

For me.. its about getting the truth out for Michael.

Who said that I didn't respect your decision? That's the reason why I wrote "I got nothing to say to you". I just want everyone to understand it all and these kind of things that come from TMZ make us happy and amuse us. And when I see sad faces around here, it makes me sad too. Hope you find the truth soon girl. :)

I hope we all find the truth soon.  I really do.  I pray for the truth. x
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Tomb -- Flower Power - TMZ...
Post by: PureLove on May 21, 2010, 07:17:04 PM
Quote from: "paula-c"
Do you think the same location that appears in the photos, there is something different in the grave? :?:  :P

Do u think that there's "something" in the grave or should I have said graves?  :lol:
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Tomb -- Flower Power - TMZ...
Post by: PureLove on May 21, 2010, 07:18:20 PM
Quote from: "DancingTheDream"
Quote from: "PureLove"
Quote from: "DancingTheDream"



Let people investigate and come to their own decisions.   I cannot "enjoy the show" and i never have.  I respect your decision, so please respect mine.

For me.. its about getting the truth out for Michael.

Who said that I didn't respect your decision? That's the reason why I wrote "I got nothing to say to you". I just want everyone to understand it all and these kind of things that come from TMZ make us happy and amuse us. And when I see sad faces around here, it makes me sad too. Hope you find the truth soon girl. :)

I hope we all find the truth soon.  I really do.  I pray for the truth. x

Thank you. I've already found it. Hope you find it too. Kisses for you. xx
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Tomb -- Flower Power - TMZ...
Post by: tabloidburn on May 21, 2010, 07:27:37 PM
Quote from: "*Mo*"
Quote from: "Puff"
Quote from: "Gina Jackson"
http://www.tmz.com/tmz-tv/?autoplay=tru ... reURL=true (http://www.tmz.com/tmz-tv/?autoplay=true&mediaKey=4f816d3b-3390-4924-ad16-3b7263643e19&isShareURL=true)



This video is hilarious....  :lol:  :lol:

I'm crying from laughter, thanks Harvey!!  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:


 :lol:  :lol:  :lol: sounds like tv-show-commercial from the 50s... :lol:  :lol:  :lol: *cramps*

about the rat: there was a scene in some jackson movie (think it was 'an american dream') where michael had this pet rat (his only friend) and joe killed it. after that incident, he wrote the song. rats do live on cemeteries, too, so i guess they had to make a parallel somewhere to mike being 'dead' as well or his dead pet rat 'visiting' him.

funny feeling that this forum seems to be a trigger to tmz-news somehow. let's think something else up they should report on... :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Tomb -- Flower Power - TMZ...
Post by: mjj29081958 on May 21, 2010, 08:03:20 PM
Quote from: "PureLove"
Quote from: "LSK"
Quote from: "PureLove"
Quote from: "DancingTheDream"
Quote from: "PureLove"
Quote from: "smiles"
well one thing i find very odd.. how come the kids never visit their dads resting-place??? if your dad died wouldn't you go visit him? i know i would.. :(

It's because their dad is NOT there because he's alive. Why is it so hard for you to understand this? After 11 months you guys still aren't sure that Michael is alive?  :roll:

No i am not.  I am 50/50 and am currently leaning towards a murder conspiracy and the hoax being fuelled by $ony, etc.

Its swings and roundabouts.  I can go full circle on this.

I havent seen proof he is dead and i havent seen proof he is alive.  I keep an open mind and explore all possibilities.  Im an investigator.  I just want the truth.  Thats why i am here.  Because if it turns out Michael was murdered, then i want to know who, how and why.  If i go into this investigation with an agenda and a pre-planned belief in my head, then i can get side tracked and scewed in my findings and objectivity.

Its all for Michael.

You haven't seen any proof that he is alive??? If you haven't seen any proof that he is alive then why and how did you start to investigate?

I'm 50/50 on it too. We've found a lot of inconsistencies but nothing that can be described as absolute proof.

Got nothing to say to you guys. Hope you can be sure soon like the most of us here and start to enjoy the show. ;)

I am with the guys here.

To be honest, I am not so sure that "most of us know he is alive" nor everyone are "enjoying the show". Then, why do you believe there are so many members "hoping" he is alive, stating "if he is alive" or losing hope through the posts on this board?... Not arguing, but I think you might have noticed that too...
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Tomb -- Flower Power - TMZ...
Post by: paula-c on May 21, 2010, 08:08:30 PM
PureLove,  well I think it is the tomb of video and photos. but I think in the video are not sunflowers 1500 :lol:
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Tomb -- Flower Power - TMZ...
Post by: PureLove on May 21, 2010, 08:37:23 PM
Quote from: "hesouttamylife"
OMG, Michael & Ben reunited again.  That is ... :(  :?  :P  :)  :D  :lol:

Ben? Which Ben? Ben the mouse or Ben "That day and the other d... ummm"?  :lol:
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Tomb -- Flower Power - TMZ...
Post by: 2good2btrue on May 21, 2010, 08:46:39 PM
There seems to be a difference in the windows.  The ascention has three windows that shine brightly.  TMZ photos, seem to have just one window in the back.  

If it was that sunny, then the other two windows would be shinning too.  ;)  ;)
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Tomb -- Flower Power - TMZ...
Post by: paula-c on May 21, 2010, 09:21:51 PM
ah ah ah , if what you say  2good2btrue. Harvey "Sunflowers in 1500 no video" :lol:
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Tomb -- Flower Power - TMZ...
Post by: 2good2btrue on May 21, 2010, 10:09:58 PM
If anyone is interested, this is Lisa Burks pictures of Holly Terrace, 2 days after the flowers were delivered.  She says all but two vases were still outside.  

http://www.flickr.com/photos/lisaburks/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/lisaburks/)
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Tomb -- Flower Power - TMZ...
Post by: RK on May 21, 2010, 11:38:08 PM
Thankyou for posting that link To good to be true. Those beautiful little girls placing their sunflowers there  for Michael really touched my heart. He has great fans and that's the truth.  And that is why He, in my opinion, is pulling this hoax.  He truly loves others so much that He has to do something to shake the system and cause people to wake up to what the powers that be have planned for us. Michael you are awesome and we really love you more.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Tomb -- Flower Power - TMZ...
Post by: 2good2btrue on May 22, 2010, 12:12:34 AM
Seems like even the french people visit Forest Lawn..... :o


[youtube:3uuzcjb8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TX6l8t2K3S4[/youtube:3uuzcjb8]
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Tomb -- Flower Power - TMZ...
Post by: darkchild on May 22, 2010, 12:19:50 AM
Quote from: "lovemj4everandever"
Quote from: "MJonmind"
[attachment=0:fmbvuk2y]0521-mj-flower-launch-v3-credit[1].jpg[/attachment:fmbvuk2y]

On another note, I have a question I've been wanting to ask for a while, maybe it's been discussed already. What are those raised pictures on the marble/granite on each side. To me they look, like a man and a child. Very strange... :?

Well the "tomb" (lol) is 60 years old and has served has the decorative solid marble centerpiece for the mausoleum since it opened in 1952.  It has been published in magazines across the world for the last five decades as the centerpiece for the mausoleum, so the pictures have nothing to do with Michael.  This is just a piece of marble that is 60 years old.  I'm amazed there are people on this forum who still do not know the history of this "tomb" and believe that Michael is actually inside this solid piece of marble.  :lol:  :lol:

That is quite a chunk of change :shock: .  I always thought that the tomb was especially made just for MJ.  I do not believe that MJ resides in this tomb at all.  Can you get a link to this information.  Wow, it is just a decorative centerpiece for the mausoleum.  That explains why visually to me the tomb seem very incongruous in its surroundings.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Tomb -- Flower Power - TMZ...
Post by: 2good2btrue on May 22, 2010, 01:27:06 AM
Yes........finally someone is understanding the truth. :D  :D  :D

See my topic.  
viewtopic.php?f=48&t=10038 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=10038)

 I think very soon, maybe on the day of the summer solstice , June 21st 2010, the truth will be known.  Michael is not buried there.????????   That's my thought about the sunflowers in relation to this hoax. ;)  ;)

This will add alot more speculation of a hoax.......I can feel it.

Piece by piece, the truth will prevail.  As always, with L.O.V.E  xoxo
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Tomb -- Flower Power - TMZ...
Post by: cin_pyt on May 22, 2010, 01:42:04 AM
JUNE 21ST THE WORLD WILL BECOME AWARE, BAM WILL FOLLOW. I THINK MICHAEL DOESN'T WANT THE BAM TO CAUSE THAT MUCH IMPACT NO HEART ATTACKS OR OTHER THINGS. I AM THINKING WE'RE ALL HAPPY WE'LL SEE HIM, BUT IF AUTHORITIES ARE INVOLVED LOW KEY IS THE THING AND IT'S CONVENIENT MICHAEL'S SAFETY IS FIRST.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Tomb -- Flower Power - TMZ...
Post by: xxmjxx on May 22, 2010, 02:28:55 AM
There doesnt look like there are 1500 sunflowers there to me,just a thought when looking at the pics. :?
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Tomb -- Flower Power - TMZ...
Post by: 2good2btrue on May 22, 2010, 08:11:27 AM
It kinds resembles a "yellow brick road"...and the background with all the lush green trees, resembles the "Emerald city".

Maybe that was the plan.  The path to Holly Terrace is brick, and kinda a road, and now it looks all yellow..........

The wizard of Oz.......... ;)
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Tomb -- Flower Power - TMZ...
Post by: Missyb007 on May 22, 2010, 08:31:15 AM
I actually don't believe it's photoshopped, look at the mirror image in the middle of the picture.
I think it's just that tomb they used to "promote" their mausoleum, and they just put pictures of michael next to it so people will believe it's michael's tomb. Also the sunflowers probably added to this place to let everyone see that they've been deliverd. so TMZ has their "proof" of it :) But hey that's just my opinion :)
To me it just looks too real to be Photoshopped, but also TOO "clearly" for everyone to see you know what I mean?
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Tomb -- Flower Power - TMZ...
Post by: simplyme on May 22, 2010, 09:06:43 AM
Quote from: "MJonmind"
[attachment=0:15g8dhoh]0521-mj-flower-launch-v3-credit[1].jpg[/attachment:15g8dhoh]

On another note, I have a question I've been wanting to ask for a while, maybe it's been discussed already. What are those raised pictures on the marble/granite on each side. To me they look, like a man and a child. Very strange... :?

Brush up on your art history.  It's not strange.  :D
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Tomb -- Flower Power - TMZ...
Post by: simplyme on May 22, 2010, 09:08:47 AM
Quote from: "angelwings"
Did I just hear that right?  "But until a decision is made, there is only one visitor Michael can count on"  
then cuts to a video of himself singing? :lol:


Quote from: "Puff"
Quote from: "Gina Jackson"
http://www.tmz.com/tmz-tv/?autoplay=tru ... reURL=true (http://www.tmz.com/tmz-tv/?autoplay=true&mediaKey=4f816d3b-3390-4924-ad16-3b7263643e19&isShareURL=true)



This video is hilarious....  :lol:  :lol:

Ben.  They're referring to Ben.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Tomb -- Flower Power - TMZ...
Post by: simplyme on May 22, 2010, 09:09:58 AM
Quote from: "Missyb007"
I actually don't believe it's photoshopped, look at the mirror image in the middle of the picture.
I think it's just that tomb they used to "promote" their mausoleum, and they just put pictures of michael next to it so people will believe it's michael's tomb. Also the sunflowers probably added to this place to let everyone see that they've been deliverd. so TMZ has their "proof" of it :) But hey that's just my opinion :)
To me it just looks too real to be Photoshopped, but also TOO "clearly" for everyone to see you know what I mean?

What mirror image?  Are you talking about the TMZ LOGO in the middle?
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Tomb -- Flower Power - TMZ...
Post by: voiceforthesilent on May 22, 2010, 01:01:54 PM
Quote from: "simplyme"
Quote from: "angelwings"
Did I just hear that right?  "But until a decision is made, there is only one visitor Michael can count on"  
then cuts to a video of himself singing? :lol:


Quote from: "Puff"
Quote from: "Gina Jackson"
http://www.tmz.com/tmz-tv/?autoplay=tru ... reURL=true (http://www.tmz.com/tmz-tv/?autoplay=true&mediaKey=4f816d3b-3390-4924-ad16-3b7263643e19&isShareURL=true)



This video is hilarious....  :lol:  :lol:

Ben.  They're referring to Ben.

I thought the same thing after listening to is again. Ben from NPG.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Tomb -- Flower Power - TMZ...
Post by: Missyb007 on May 22, 2010, 02:10:55 PM
Quote from: "simplyme"
Quote from: "Missyb007"
I actually don't believe it's photoshopped, look at the mirror image in the middle of the picture.
I think it's just that tomb they used to "promote" their mausoleum, and they just put pictures of michael next to it so people will believe it's michael's tomb. Also the sunflowers probably added to this place to let everyone see that they've been deliverd. so TMZ has their "proof" of it :) But hey that's just my opinion :)
To me it just looks too real to be Photoshopped, but also TOO "clearly" for everyone to see you know what I mean?

What mirror image?  Are you talking about the TMZ LOGO in the middle?

No I was talking about that big flower bouquet in the middle above the M from TMZ it looks like a mirror image, but I was just looking with my right eye in my left pocket haha :D It's not there ;) But i still believe it's not a photoshopped image :)
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Tomb -- Flower Power - TMZ...
Post by: paula-c on May 22, 2010, 08:46:02 PM
The type shown at 53 seconds into the video thumbs up is very funny :lol:
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Tomb -- Flower Power - TMZ...
Post by: hesouttamylife on May 22, 2010, 09:03:48 PM
Quote from: "simplyme"
Quote from: "MJonmind"
[attachment=0:35t2bmul]0521-mj-flower-launch-v3-credit[1].jpg[/attachment:35t2bmul]

On another note, I have a question I've been wanting to ask for a while, maybe it's been discussed already. What are those raised pictures on the marble/granite on each side. To me they look, like a man and a child. Very strange... :?

Brush up on your art history.  It's not strange.  :D
okay since you mentioned art history, what do you think of this? Interesting I'd say.

http://tumulosfamosos.blogspot.com/2010 ... orest.html (http://tumulosfamosos.blogspot.com/2010/04/michael-jackson-arte-tumular-279-forest.html)
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Tomb -- Flower Power - TMZ...
Post by: ZIsis on May 25, 2010, 07:05:39 AM
Good God, F-O-U-R WHOLE DAYS without ANY MJ-related news on TMZ :!:  :o  :?  :shock:  :!: What on earth is "our world" coming to?!?  ;)  :P  :lol:

But seriously though, should we be more glad, worried or just simply wait in anticipation??? Hmmm...


L.O.V.E & LOVE ALL THE WAY!
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Tomb -- Flower Power - TMZ...
Post by: Ijustcantstoplovingu on May 25, 2010, 07:16:03 AM
Quote from: "PureLove"
Quote from: "angelwings"
Did I just hear that right?  "But until a decision is made, there is only one visitor Michael can count on"  
then cuts to a video of himself singing? :lol:

That cracked me up too  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:


 :lol:   but did you notice when it cuts to the video of himself singing,  he is wearing "sunflower yellow suit" veerrry interesting 8-)
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Tomb -- Flower Power - TMZ...
Post by: 2good2btrue on May 25, 2010, 08:00:56 AM
I made a comparison of the original pictures  of the crypt, compared to those posted by TMZ.  The original tomb was built in 1952, when the great mausoleum was later built on.  This promotional photo was released in that same year, but seems to be just built for promotional purposes.  It is situated directly and that end of the hall, and very visible from the Holly Terrace entrance door....
I definitely believe TMZ have used 2 different tombstones....
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Tomb -- Flower Power - TMZ...
Post by: paula-c on May 25, 2010, 06:54:19 PM
It has nothing to do with the subject, but what about TMZ?, Forgot about us?, Why not publish anything from Murray, or someone visiting the cemetery .. I do not know anything :lol:
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