Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Latest News => The Plan (Qanon, TIAI, BACK) => Back/Front discussions => Topic started by: Sarahli on May 17, 2012, 06:18:40 PM
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Here is a little update of just SOME of the clues/connections/whispers, because there is no way that all of them can be recounted.
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This is what we are here for, to connect the dots, and hear the whispers from both Front and family connections. Front has given us many "KEYS" since his tIME here and for that we are truly grateful. :smiley_abuv:
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The missing “N”:
- Front made 2 posts highlighting the letter “N”:
Did anyone see him live on Ustream a few minutes ago? :icon_lol:
Re: yellow brick road…..
Might want to check your local bookstore for a world atlas and HIStorical reference books. Flip to the country index and look under "N". :icon_e_wink:
Where the end of one road starts----> another one begins………….
Omer Bhatti - @LilMoonBoi (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,10883.msg337276.html#msg337276)
28…71…80…37…
Anyone got any spare "CHA_GE" in their Front pockets that Back could borrow?
the "N"ew to come………….
For those of you losing faith, take a look "BACK" shall (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,5167.msg342978.html#msg342978)
- Thereafter the official Michael Jackson facebook page posted about the "NO FIGHTI_G" sticker we can see in the “You Rock My World” video. They emphasized the fact that a "N" was missing.
(http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/614/nofightig.jpg)
Michael Jackson | Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/michaeljackson)
(http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/4834/23gxlx51.jpg)
Michael Jackson - You Rock My World (Extended Version) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-7ABIM2qjU)
- Also, Paris tweeted after this about “SPIDERMA_” -- another great missing “N”
(http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg696/scaled.php?server=696&filename=paristweetspiderman.jpg&res=landing)
Twitter (https://twitter.com/#!/pariisjaxn/status/110165811792068608)
- This “Spiderma_” tweet from Paris also connects to a post by Front he made just a few days before where he mentions the missing “N” and where he posted the picture of a cake with a SPIDER!
Off Topic……..
yea I know it's a little late, but we wanted to share some post-birthday/pre-bam cake with all you lovely ppl……..
Now, there's only ONE piece left-- so remember: NO FIGHTI_G
(http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/4271/cakebc.png)
Stand at the crossroads (intersection between "worlds") and look (SEE); ask for the ancient paths (UNDERSTAND)………..
…..ask where the good way is (PERCEIVE)
…….and walk in it, and you will find rest for your souls (deLIVErance).
-Jeremiah 6:16
For those of you losing faith, take a look "BACK" shall we? (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,5167.msg351716.html#msg351716)
- In the same period La Toya made a tweet with a "N" capitalized. She also said that she might have been bitten by an insect! Which could correspond to a spider… another connection with Front’s "N" and spider cake:
(http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg705/scaled.php?server=705&filename=latoyatweetn.jpg&res=landing)
Twitter (https://twitter.com/#!/latoyajackson/status/109125261336920064)
Twitter (https://twitter.com/#!/latoyajackson/status/109448404844818432)
- Another missing “N” appeared during the trial in one of the prosecution’s presentation document ---the word misspelled was "pronouced" instead of “pronounced”:
(http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/874/mjspellingpros.jpg)
L.A. prosecutors today also ran into spelling problems during their opening statement. As seen here, on one of the slides shown to jurors, the word “pronounced” was missing the second “n.”
Conrad Murray’s Lawyer Misspells Michael Jackson’s Name On Chart Shown To L.A. Jury | The Smoking Gun (http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/michael-jackson/misspelled-michael-jackson-894016)
All of these missing “N”s are very clear connections. A whole pattern of “N”s proving Front’s authenticity. But this is not all, there is much more.
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The “Keys”:
Front gave us this hint/whisper:
snick-clack, snick-clack
Front's got his back
what do you see? Keep Watchin' please
look closer for more "KEYS"……………………….
For those of you losing faith, take a look "BACK" shall we? (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,5167.msg355306.html#msg355306)
- Front told us in this post to pay attention and to look for more “keys”. Then there have been several “keys” found:
- First came the unveiling of Michael's artwork with all the KEYS: Michael Jackson's Art and Studio, Revealed for the First Time - Los Angeles Arts - Public Spectacle (http://blogs.laweekly.com/arts/2011/08/michael_jacksons_art_revealed.php)
(http://blogs.laweekly.com/arts/MJ2.jpg)
- Then the CNN interview with Jermaine with the musical KEYS clearly showing and the "KEYS" sign which the camera was sure to show in the background:
(http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/2142/jermaineinterviewcnnkey.jpg)
(http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/2142/jermaineinterviewcnnkey.jpg)
- Then this TMZ article entitled “Conrad Murray Trial Key Witness Has VANISHED” http://www.tmz.com/2011/09/15/conrad-murray-trial-key-witness-has-vanished-michael-jackson-propofol-pharmacist-tim-lopez-thailand/#.TnJ58dS5-eF (http://www.tmz.com/2011/09/15/conrad-murray-trial-key-witness-has-vanished-michael-jackson-propofol-pharmacist-tim-lopez-thailand/#.TnJ58dS5-eF)
- Then this headline appeared in the news “Michael Jackson's son Prince to give "KEY evidence" in his dad's manslaughter trial” Daily Star: Simply The Best 7 Days A Week :: News :: Michael Jackson's son Prince to give 'key evidence' in his dad's manslaughter trial (http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/view/211501/Michael-Jackson-s-son-prince-to-give-key-evidence-in-his-dad-s-manslaughter-trial/Michael-Jackson-s-son-prince-to-give-key-evidence-in-his-dad-s-manslaughter-trial)
- Then another nice “key” showed up: Paris’ key ring she was wearing during her interview on the Ellen Degeneres show for her coming movie entitled “Lundon’s bridge and the Three Keys”
(http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/6198/pariskeya.jpg)
Paris Jackson shares her father's advice and efforts to protect her on "Ellen" - Celebrity Circuit - CBS News (http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-31749_162-57343114-10391698/paris-jackson-shares-her-fathers-advice-and-efforts-to-protect-her-on-ellen/)
Lundon's Bridge (http://lundons.com/index.html)
- Another interesting "Key" was found during the trial: we can see what looks like a key on the Defense's desk:
(http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/2373/keybonetrial.jpg)
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/courtkeyzo.jpg)
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8-Ball:
- Prince had posted a picture as his twitter avatar where we see an alien playing pool and what is interesting is that “8 ball” is a pool game (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eight-ball (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eight-ball) ). And the 8 ball is the winning shot!
(http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/30/princejacksonavatartwit.jpg)
This connects to Front’s famous “8-Ball” in several posts, example:
Front: Perhaps they should try another method to garner their so-called indisputable foresights and "INSIDE information". I suspect they are peering INSIDE an 8-Ball.
I have a feeling that in doing so will lead to a deeper understanding as future events come to light. And if it doesn't, then I guess I'll just have to return this Magic 8 Ball.
Third-Eye:
- Another point is that in Prince's avatar the alien has 3 eyes and this connects to a picture Front had posted:
Let your eyes do the watchin'……….
(http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQLtnj8EzRFQFgFuUfOFOei5jB7RaB5jzufDwjMNWkA6vhlnjA4Aw&t=1)
For those of you losing faith, take a look "BACK" shall (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,5167.msg338669.html#msg338669)
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- Jermaine wore an orange t-shirt during a September 2011 interview in the UK --and orange represents the color of our Hoax forum background:
(http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/4338/jermaineorangeshirt.jpg)
Loose Women: Jermaine Jackson Interview 15/09/11 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=9AbyUeBwJI8)
Front confirmed to us that it was well one of the many whispers we received:
Nothin' like a brother showing a little team spirit.
Another Jermaine Slip-Up (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,20523.msg356720.html#msg356720)
Before it all happens he gave us an indication that the family (brother or sister) was about to give us hints and I think Jermaine gave us many:
Romans 14:13
Let us stop passing judgment on one another. Instead, make up your mind not to put any stumbling block or OBSTACLE in the way of a BROTHER or SISTER.
For those of you losing faith, take a look "BACK" shall (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,5167.msg341247.html#msg341247)
So clearly Jermaine didn’t choose this color randomly! "Someone" asked him to wear it! :icon_e_wink:
- Let’s not forget the “pie” Jermaine mentioned in a tweet while the subject was being discussed and in connection with the above post by Front about “brother” as well, ie the help of his brother with the Hoax.
(http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg846/scaled.php?server=846&filename=jermainetweetpie.jpg&res=landing)
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- Front’s mention of fake fans attacking the family has been confirmed shortly after by a retweet from Paris and a tweet from Taj Jackson which is another clear family connection:
uhmm, PureLove..... "fans" that spread hate to Michael's family--believers or NOT--are FAKE fans. PERIOD!! A TRUE fan would never do that. EVER!!!!!
For those of you losing faith, take a look "BACK" shall we? (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,5167.msg357317.html#msg357317)
tajjackson3Taj Jackson
So sad that at a time like this we still have "fans" making personal attacks against our family. Really pathetic. :-(
SoDamnEpic J ŁAИDON BITCH ♔ by pariisjaxn When shit goes down and sides are taken, you find out who was real and who was fakin'. 21 Jul
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- In one of his posts, Front included this picture:
(http://www.vivaboo.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/magic-between-the-forest-tree-light-god-see-dark-magic-hope-300x300.jpg)
For those of you losing faith, take a look "BACK" shall we? (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,5167.msg357905.html#msg357905)
- Not long after Paris tweeted about magical forests and posted a picture very similar to Front’s one:http://yfrog.com/oeqd5j
(http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg878/scaled.php?tn=0&server=878&filename=qd5.jpg&xsize=640&ysize=640)
- Her tweet also connected to a brief quiz similar to Front’s:
(http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/2278/paristweetforest.jpg)
Question #1: Have we seen any evidence that confirms MJ is dead?--sorry, photoshopped pics, hearsay, media outlets, "official" medical report$ and acting are not applicable! (oops, well I guess that "murders" THAT theory!) Hint: there's only one possible CORRECT box to check for this question and that is----> "NO"
Question #2: Have we seen any evidence (clues, connections, intentional "mistakes", etc.) that refute the fallacy that MJ is dead? Hint: the correct answer to this question contains the letters H-Y…….Hell Yes!!!
For those of you losing faith, take a look "BACK" shall we? (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,5167.msg360482.html#msg360482)
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- This following post excerpt from Front connects to a tweet made by Jermaine just the day after:
Focus needs to be directed towards the plight of understanding what's already written----> J U S T I C E !
(i.e., think BIGGER---on a grander scale)
For those of you losing faith, take a look "BACK" shall we? (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,5167.msg369375.html#msg369375)
jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
We've bigger battles to fight than against the meaningless words of a liar whose version of events was unanimously rejected by a jury
9 Nov 11
Twitter (https://twitter.com/#!/jermjackson5/status/134338272892690433)
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- Front posted this about a snippet he shared with us:
Keep in mind --- this is in very RAW form, but I wanted to share it with you anyway. It doesn't contain all the elements and it's BY FAR complete--just a raw, short snippet--but you can at least get a feel of it.
http://www50.zippyshare.com/v/20791844/file.html
p.s. don't worry, it's not another scary prank.
For those of you losing faith, take a look "BACK" shall we? (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,5167.msg371102.html#msg371102)
- Just a few days later Paris changed her twitter avatar picture -- we see her wearing a t-shirt with written “RAW” on it.
(http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg220/scaled.php?server=220&filename=rawshirtparis.jpg&res=landing)
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I loved this as well:
« on: 24 December 2011 » I posted this:
ParisJackson Paris Jacksoη
Shout out to @AlAllDay!! I wanna see who can maybe get him to 1O,OOO followers?? :] Pwetty Pweeease?? <3
It reminded me of Front’s…
“Souza-Souz ~ Pwetty pweeeeeez…with a cherry on top of that PIE!”
For those of you losing faith, take a look "BACK" shall we? (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/index.php?topic=5167.msg345233#msg345233)
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the "N"ew, the "CHA_GE" --- if it makes you wonder
relapse back, mesh letter to number
won't be long 'til you hear that thunder……………
For those of you losing faith, take a look "BACK" shall we? (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,5167.msg344626.html#msg344626)
- After this came out the Michael Forever tribute video and thunder is the first thing that we hear in that trailer which for me is a strong connection showing that Front had foreknowledge about what was in that trailer. The flashes of lightning represent for me the guiding light in the dark path ahead. The whispers that Front mentioned several times:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=vZv59R9fyrE[/youtube]
The tribute teaser vid was uploaded Aug 1, 2011 -- FRONT posted the thunder post July 22, 2011
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- In connection to the trial and showing that Front knew what was about to happen:
He made a funny joke: If (when) MJ comes back - will we believe its him ? (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,7104.msg356413.html#msg356413)
The part interesting here in this context is the mention of the bottles of propofol – NUMEROUS bottles…
Michael: {standing alone…shakes his head…and breaks out into a rendition of 99 Bottles Of Beer On The Wall} 99 bottles of Propofol… 99 bottles of Propofol… take 1 down, pass it around--oops! where did it go?….. 98 bottles of Propofol………
- Thereafter and during the trial a crazy amount of propofol bottles was mentioned/shown as exhibits:
(http://cdn.abclocal.go.com/images/otrc/2010/photos/110927_conrad_murray_trial_sldie_propofol2.jpg)
(http://blu.stb.s-msn.com/i/BF/2CBF732727824FA9A83D253383A6.jpg)
Again, not a coincidence.
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The Pumpkin:
- PureLove and myself were joking about a pumpkin (or jack-o-lantern) we were seeing behind Conrad Murray during the trial and PureLove had posted several "scary" pictures of pumpkins a little before:
For those of you losing faith, take a look "BACK" shall we? (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/index.php?topic=5167.msg365887#msg365887)
(http://img607.imageshack.us/img607/104/orangething.jpg)
« on: 26 October 2011 »
Sarahli: “This one looks a LOT less scary than the ones you posted here!”
PureLove: “Just wait a little. You haven't seen the face of the pumpkin yet!”
- The day after we got to see the pumpkin’s face!
For those of you losing faith, take a look "BACK" shall we? (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/index.php?topic=5167.msg366330#msg366330)
« on: 27 October 2011 »
(http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/7221/pumpkinv.jpg)
...and Ed Chernoff’s orange tie as a bonus!
Interesting and funny reply from Front who confirmed that our wish had been granted:
Holy BAMcakes! You people sure are hard to please! You ask to see Mr. Pumpkin…..wish granted. You ask for clues from the Family…..you got clues from the Family. You asked for more keys…..you got more keys. You asked for A_OTHER sign…..you got another SIG_. I guess Souza might as well close down this hoax forum now and throw in the "towel" because MJ has already "officially" :? been PRONOU_CED "dead" (infamous autopsy photo with the missing "N").
For those of you losing faith, take a look "BACK" shall we? (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,5167.msg366433.html#msg366433)
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Front said:
2 birds:
JU(STICE)ngle myna
+
acrocephalus rufESC(AP)Ens
= 1 stone
p.s. for now, enjoy the Bliss…………….
For those of you losing faith, take a look "BACK" shall we? (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,5167.msg369375.html#msg369375)
- A few days later the official MJ facebook page posted:
(http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg140/scaled.php?server=140&filename=escapism.jpg&res=landing)
Key word = ESCAPism
Official back & Front thread (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/index.php?topic=21825.msg384114#msg384114)
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- Front composed for us an "Official Hoax MiX Snippet" --just for fun and because we asked for a hoax song. If we listened closely we could here beat-boxing like Michael does! Listen particularly to 0:48-0:56, then again from 1:10-1:19 and then again from 1:31-end. I was amazed and surprised and felt it was so nice of him to do that. I think he has made it subtle of course but if you listen carefully it’s there.
http://www46.zippyshare.com/v/67572745/file.html
- Front gave us a hint about it in the lyrics accompanying the snippet:
Groove to the "beat" outside the "box"
Spinning like clockwork, tick-tock, tick-tock
Official back & Front thread (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,5167.msg384114.html#msg384114)
- So we really had to find it and shortly after the official MJ facebook page posted the handwritten lyrics of “Beat it” which directly connected to the “beat” of Front’s snippet:
(http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg688/scaled.php?server=688&filename=beatit.jpg&res=landing)
- This connects to the fact that Front’s post was about music, creation (handwritten lyrics) and to the “Beat” of course!
Here’s a video of where we can here Michael beat-boxing:
Michael Jackson - Beatboxing Ultimate Collection - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=LQuKbzWHvIo)
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Just a quick update for everyone... :)
Front always talks about "Light" in times of "darkness" and most recently on January 5 he posted this:"Remember the story contained in my previous post. Darkness fell across the land of Egypt--- but they survived. Light shall illuminate OUR land again, too."
And Paris tweeted 8 hours ago: "Happiness can be found even in the darkest of times if one only remembers to turn on the light."
Twitter (https://twitter.com/#!/ParisJackson)
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- Jermaine tweeted back to Andrea and said:
jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
@TheVogueRogue Yes! There's no such thing as a coincidence ; )
- Which connects to a well-known sentence said by Back (Front):
Back: “Nothing is by cooincidence”
Nothing is by cooincidence-back post 11/5/2009 (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,21939.0.html)
Jermaine Jackson - @jermjackson5 (verified) (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/index.php?topic=3131.msg386429#msg386429)
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If you're not a religious person…it matters not!
If you think Front is Mickey Mouse…it matters not!
If you're a religious person, have faith in God.
If you're not, then have faith in Michael.
If your faith is crumbling and you choose to leave your KNOWING (not beLIEving--- but "KNOWING"--- because, as I've stated many times before, believing & knowing are 2 different things) behind to disintegrate into dust…might as well say goodbye now because you won't make to the "other side".
For those of you losing faith, take a look "BACK" shall we? (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,5167.msg381542.html#msg381542)
- What is interesting here is the mention of Mickey Mouse. Some time later we received a hint from Omer who posted a Mickey Mouse watch: Official back & Front thread (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/index.php?topic=21825.msg386401#msg386401). And a tweet from Paris mentioning “Mouse”:
Hmm, interesting -- all this talk about Mickey Mouse that stemmed from Front's post and now this 7 hours ago from Paris: "awkward b/c my auto correct in my last tweet changed "movie" to "mouse" http://twitter.com/ParisJackson
Twitter (https://twitter.com/#!/ParisJackson/status/163540641165479936)
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- Just a few days after Front made the following post mentioning "we're takin' over":
Front is seeing the many sides, many eyes…tossing and turning at the "I_tersection of lights". Unlike most, it is indeed black and white. Tumbling, bouncing, traveling "back" through tiME…every facet holds reason and rhyme.
we're takin' over.......
Official back & Front thread (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,5167.msg397736.html#msg397736)
- Jaafar tweeted "we're taking over" and posted a picture that immediately reminded me of Michael's posture during the O2 press conference. I find this very symbolic:
(http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg191/scaled.php?server=191&filename=retakinover.jpg&res=landing)
Twitter (https://twitter.com/#!/jaafarjjackson/status/191430114632925184/photo/1)
9:37 - 15 Avr 12 via web
(http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg100/scaled.php?server=100&filename=michaelnw.jpg&res=landing)
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- Front posted a handwritten note mentioning "the momment of now":
(http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/2143/themommentofnowclock.png)
Official back & Front thread (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/index.php?topic=21825.msg397823#msg397823)
A few days later, the news broke about a deal made by the Estate with Pepsi. The commercial was aptly entitled: “Now in the Moment”
Official back & Front thread (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,5167.msg401522.html#msg401522)
And a great observation concerning the timing has been made by Julia142:
Another thing realllllllly interesting, as you said, Pepsi released that video 21 days after June 25th 2009, but we had a big clue right in FRONT of our eyes to link Front' handwriting's message 'The Momment of now'', to the Pepsi Campaign ''Now in a moment''! He posted his message 21 days before we got the news on May 3rd about Pepsi, the same number of days it took to release the infamous Pepsi hair burning video!!!!
- Another nice connection to Front from MJ's Facebook entry, connecting the past to the "momment" of "now."
(http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/3439/pastnowmoment.jpg)
Quote of the day: "I'm a person of the present, and I have to ask, 'How are things going now? What's happening now? What's going to happen in the future that could affect what has happened in the past?’”
Official back & Front thread (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/index.php?topic=21825.msg403722#msg403722)
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We received several other handwritten notes from Front and they correspond to Michael’s handwriting. Several comparisons have been made with samples known to have been written by Michael – you can find them and the dicsussion that ensued in the Back/Front thread:
(http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/6531/wrongsrighted.png)
(http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/272/lovealways.png)
(http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/6784/truthwillprevial.png)
And even if not meant as a clue-- Front posted a picture of the t-shirt he was wearing.
(http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/7589/2zj9rly.png)
A nice wink to our forum colors as we can say that we all virtually meet in Holland! :icon_e_wink:
Front also posted pictures of his hands and they look like Michael's:
(http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/9003/letyourfin.png)
(http://i40.tinypic.com/14p5li.png)
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Aug 24 + 1 day of Simmering----> Aug 25
Do NOT forget the 1 day of Simmering, for it is a consequential and VITAL ingredient of the recipe---Past, Present & Future! Look for it............
And rest assured, my friends, they did NOT and WILL not break him, for he is..........
in a kiNgdom far Away
but perhaps cLoser than yoU thinK
Bolstering his next movE
checkmAtE----> is on the BRink
"with all that I've been through, I'm still around" --- Long live The King
For those of you losing faith, take a look "BACK" shall (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,5167.msg340611.html#msg340611)
- In this post we understood in hindsight that it was a whisper/clue from Front. We were given a date to look at “Aug 25” and we finally got it!
(http://ll-media.tmz.com/2011/10/11/1011-michael-jackson-gurney-2.jpg)
Prosecutors just showed an image of Michael Jackson's dead, naked body sprawled on a gurney -- taken hours after the singer died.
The date on the tiles beside his body appears to read August 25th, 2009 -- but MJ's autopsy doctor Christopher Rogers claims the date is wrong ... it should read June 25th.
Michael Jackson Autopsy Photo -- Dead, Naked Body [PHOTO] | TMZ.com (http://www.tmz.com/2011/10/11/michael-jackson-autopsy-photo-dead-naked-dr-conrad-murray-trial-manslaughter/)
- Incredible that Front had knowledge of this “little” DEtAiL! And what is also interesting in his post is the word “VITAL” which has a connotation with “LIFE” = Fake autopsy picture -- and an autopsy picture is a VITAL ingredient of a THRILLER’s recipe! It is clear that Front knew what was going to happen and that the autopsy picture might weaken people's faith that's why he gave us these whispers.
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- Recently Front shared with us a sketch/drawing:
(http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/3313/2qdbvja.png)
Official back & Front thread (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,5167.msg404082.html#msg404082)
- Just after, the MJ Facebook page made a new entry connecting directly to Front's DRAWING!
(http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/6782/drawingpa.jpg)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/542968_10150911837806473_19691681472_9571683_337748042_n.jpg)
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- Wow we are receiving many whispers recently! Here's another one:
Front posted this:
hmmm……….
I get the FEELING a "circus" is underway. The stench of vulture$ ready to pounce like pitbulls on poodles is PALPABLE. I hope they enjoy it while it lasts. Those rent-a-crackerjacks will choke on the peaNUTS they're selling during their major feeding frenzy FAIL.
Official back & Front thread (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,5167.msg404801.html#msg404801)
- Just the day after Paris tweeted:
(http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/342/25661558.jpg)
Twitter (https://twitter.com/#!/ParisJackson/status/204138571471405056)
Keyword = CIRCUS
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I just want to emphazise two other connections between Paris & Front. One has already been posted, Paris used the word "frontin" in a tweet (self explanatory :icon_lol:) -- "Frontin" is not a very common word, but I think we know why she said it...
"Madagascar 3 was seriously the best cartoon ive seen in such a long time it was amazing haha not frontin"
(http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/1686/parisfrontin.jpg)
She also tweeted about "circus" again after Front's "circus" post:
"just saw the cutest little boy walk by singing "da da da da da da da da circus" and i just had to smile he was adorableeeee"
(http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/7056/pariscircus.jpg)
Looks like Michael and Paris are having a little fun with us. :icon_e_wink:
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- Front made 2 posts mentionning "monkey":
p.s. monkey needs more kiwi
Official back & Front thread (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,5167.msg409843.html#msg409843)
p.s. monkey is still waiting for that kiwi…….
Official back & Front thread (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,5167.msg410254.html#msg410254)
- A few days later, Paris tweeted about a "monkey":
"this monkey's gone to heavennn"
(http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/2036/monkeytweet.jpg)
Twitter / ParisJackson: this monkey's gone to heav (https://twitter.com/ParisJackson/status/216360503197437952)
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I found a Front connection after a little investigation inspired by a post on .net by crystals133 entitled "Chernoff closes his practice". I went poking around on Chernoff's Facebook account(s). Seems Chernoff allegedly "closed" his law firm and opened a new one on June 17th. Stradley, Chernoff & Alford Stradley, Chernoff & Alford - Law Practice - Houston, TX | Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/houstoncriminallaw) dissolved and now he has it listed as Houston Criminal Law Houston Criminal Law - Professional Services - Houston, TX | Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/Chernofflaw) ?
Chernoff made this post:
Stradley, Chernoff & Alford
June 17
After eleven years, the law firm is no more. It's a bittersweet symphony, this life. Marriages dissolve. Partnerships dissolve. Children move on. And then rebirth.
That's interesting but what's even more interesting is one of the pics posted to the Stradley, Chernoff & Alford page, posted 2/24/2012:
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/stradleych.png)
Note the feather tipping the scales of justice to the max.
Refer to Front's posts from around the same time:
Feb 8th, 2012 09:38:38 PM Official back & Front thread (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/index.php?topic=5167.msg388893#msg388893)
In times of silence, try not to get discouraged. It only means there is something BIG in the works…..and the "feather" will DEFINITELY be heard when it flutters to the "stage".
March 7th, 2012 03:31:49 PM » Official back & Front thread (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/index.php?topic=5167.msg393422#msg393422)
The Feather Dance
A boy and a girl sit in a tree
sharing laughter and joy and simplicity
the songbirds coalesce in perfect harmony
the drone of the outside world becomes silent
a feather flutters by, dancing on the wind
invisible caresses felt from within
and they wonder, "Which bird is it? From where does it come?"
one bird flying overhead calls out, "Does it really matter? For we are one."
Later that evening, walking amidst the orange and green
where silhouettes of feathers dancing can be seen
they no longer wonder from where that feather came
for the knowing is in the moon, stars, sun and rain
and so they dance…
and from a few months prior:
Nov 7, 2011 10:22:48 PM » Official back & Front thread (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/index.php?topic=5167.msg369375#msg369375)
2 birds:
JU(STICE)ngle myna
+
acrocephalus rufESC(AP)Ens
= 1 stone
p.s. for now, enjoy the Bliss…………….
Notice also Lady Liberty has struck the MJ Jesus effigy pose aka crucifixion pose atop the scales of justice.
- An interesting point is that the statue's face looks like Michael. Here is a closer look:
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/str.png)
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- Julia142 found another interesting connection between Front and the video of Conrad Murray which was released by TMZ on the special day of 25th June 2012.
Front posted before this came out:
And if it's STILL not clear…..Front was addressing the tabloid ASSociatES and their Devil-driving, dinged-up, damaged, e-coli-infested, ugly-azz LAME TRAIN caboose--which they constantly TRY (and FAIL worse with every attempt!) to alter the tracks of the Hoax Coach with their acquisitivene$$. If you are not in said category, move right along --- it doesn't apply to you. If you FEEL addressed by Front's calling outs….then PERHAPS it's time to check that man (or woman) in the mirror.
Official back & Front thread (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,5167.msg410254.html#msg410254)
- This part of Front’s post I quoted connects to what Conrad Murray says in his speech:
Conrad Murray:Nonetheless, I believe this is not the time to continue demeaning nor assassinating his character in the media. We must remember Michael for the good he has done for society. We must also be conscious that no man nor women, with the exception of the innocent child, is absolutely free of hidden skeletons. Therefore, the next time you look in the mirror, before passing judgment, or condemning someone, take a good look at yourself, and if you are not 100% sure that when scrutinized no fault could be found then you may have earned that right to criticize.
You can watch the video here: Dr. Conrad Murray Secret Video -- How DARE You Judge Me | TMZ.com (http://www.tmz.com/2012/06/25/conrad-murray-michael-jackson-interview-video/)
- Front’s comment mirrors Murray’s speech, they both relate to the media lies which we know have a lot to do with the purpose of the Hoax. I especially love the similarity in the mention of looking at the man (woman) in the mirror. And we have our magic number again as Front posted exactly 7 days before the video came out! :icon_e_wink:
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Here's another nice Paris -- Front connection:
you WILL be stumbling out that door bamboozled and COVERED with chocolate icecream from head to toe.
[...]
p.s. monkey is still waiting for that kiwi…….
p.s. monkey needs more kiwi
(http://distilleryimage3.instagram.com/f88a2a80c65a11e1bf341231380f8a12_7.jpg)
Paris is holding an ice cream carton with an INTERESTING brand:
(http://www.polyvore.com/cgi/img-thing?.out=jpg&size=l&tid=48471701)
Key words: "Ice cream" + "Monkey" ... in other words Chunky Monkey. :icon_e_wink:
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- A nice Victory connection:
Front posted this:
Don't blame it on the moonshine
Don't blame it on the spotlight
Don't blame it on the good guys
Blame it on the baloney
:icon_e_wink:
Official back & Front thread (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,5167.msg417888.html#msg417888)
- A few hours later the official MJ Facebook page posted this Victory tour promo ad:
Michael Jackson
Vintage MJ: Check out this original Victory Tour promo ad, which appeared in Billboard Magazine in July of 1984.
(http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/544472_10151065814786473_1842011263_n.jpg)
Michael Jackson | Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/michaeljackson)
- This Victory tour ad connects to a comment I made for the last facebook entry 2 days before and where I mention "Victory":
Thanks for the forum shout out on Facebook, Front.
Michael Jackson
Photo of the Day: MJ on the set of the music video for “Jam”
(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/545376_10151061083506473_366646125_n.jpg)
Like · · Share · 50,3301,9553,160 · about an hour ago ·
Maybe Front liked Simpa's montages who knows! :icon_lol: It's however a clear wink to our forum and in this picture Michael is also doing a Victory sign. So... Michael is winning a battle? I hope so. :ghsdf:
- So what is interesting here is that I mentionned "Michael doing the Victory sign" and 2 days later Front posts and the FB page follows with a Victory "sign". :icon_e_wink:
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- A funny "facilities" connection that deserves its place here. :icon_lol: So we first received the following post by Front mentionning "facilities":
hmmm……….
I get the FEELING a "circus" is underway. The stench of vulture$ ready to pounce like pitbulls on poodles is PALPABLE. I hope they enjoy it while it lasts. Those rent-a-crackerjacks will choke on the peaNUTS they're selling during their major feeding frenzy FAIL.
Worry not, my friends---any BACKbiting crusades shall cease once the curtain ascends and the LIght ILLuminates their true intentions!
Helloooo, Pay-Me-By-The-Word-And-I'll-Write-Anything!! if your avaricious lil' money-hungry eyes happens upon these words as you're scrolling through the pages with your Cheeto-sh*t-caked fingernails…you should really consider taking a loooooong vacation----and perhaps staying at LEAST 500 feet from the, uhmm, "facilities". AUTHORIZATION: DENIED…AGAIN. Do YOURself a favor , save yourself the embarrassment from future TRUTHS that shall come to light---and cast upon YOU the shadows that you have attempted to spread over "OTHERs" for so long.
WRongs ARE (and will continue to be)----> RIGHTEd
^^^ words of TRUTH--beyond a shadow of a doubt!
ya MIGHT want to remember that the next time you open your mouth squealing like a pig with your tabloid drivel.
the tIME is coming…………………………
p.s. OINK OINK!!!!!
http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,5167.msg404801.html#msg404801
- A few days later Paris posted the following picture:
(http://distilleryimage5.s3.amazonaws.com/cdb8f986c12211e18bb812313804a181_7.jpg)
- It's a somewhat "uncanny" connection you may say. So I gotta ask: What are the odds of Front mentionning "facilities" and Paris posting this picture? You be the judge. :icon_lol:
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TIME:
The intricately complex essence of the universe can be simplified in every existing form of life. The meaning of life is found in every entity…..a multitude of parallels, a plethora of levels…ALL----> reflective of that single nucleus.
T.I.M.E.
In the laws of Mother Nature/God, the laws of time & physics are reflected in every microcosm (the moment of noW) and in every macrocosm (the Bigger PIcture).
tIME beyond the mind retains no reason or rhyme.
Reality---> it's all perspective
Time----> it's all relative
http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,5167.msg423757.html#msg423757
- Not long after we received very clear whispers from Paris connecting to Front’s post; she first tweeted about time and then posted a significant time-related picture:
(http://imageshack.us/a/img221/6959/timetweetparis.jpg)
https://twitter.com/ParisJackson/status/245019261616140288
(https://distilleryimage2.s3.amazonaws.com/89654c72005a11e28d1322000a1cba90_7.jpg)
https://twitter.com/#!/ParisJackson/media/slideshow?url=http%3A%2F%2Finstagr.am%2Fp%2FPp88ssKwpm%2F
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Missing "N ":
- We recently received another missing “N” clue. I think everyone knows about the now famous letter “N”, if not please see the beginning of this post. This time it involved MJ’s facebook page and its Twitter version. What is posted on Facebook is tweeted on Twitter with slight differences because of the format and the “N” was missing on Twitter which was clearly done on purpose:
haha @ katy
Notice you wrote "lovi' each other wholeheartedly" -> hence my missing N - comment :) but yup, the N is there in the original post.. :) what a funny coincidence :icon_lol:
The "N" was definitely missing on the MJ twitter account but is present on the FB account.
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/mjtweet.jpg)
https://twitter.com/michaeljackson/status/266601813753610240
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/mjfb.jpg)
http://www.facebook.com/michaeljackson
Cool missing “N” :woohoo2:
What’s interesting to notice imo is that they used the maximum characters allowed on twitter and that they could have left the letter “N” on “Lovin” as the apostrophe counts as a character anyway. They could even have removed the coma after “Yes” and write “Loving”. Totally done on purpose!
So what are we supposed to feel? :icon_geek:
http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,5167.msg428420.html#msg428420
- Just after that, Front dropped by to say "N"! :icon_lol: Notice the character from Sesame Street in the following picture:
(http://img2.etsystatic.com/000/0/5545767/il_570xN.97766106.jpg)
Juuuuuus' se_ding some L.O.V.E.
:bearhug:
http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,5167.msg428444.html#msg428444
- And a few days later MJ’s Facebook page posted an interesting cover magazine picture which was mentioning… guess what? Sesame Street! What a coincidence! This is all so well planned. :icon_e_wink:
(http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/8059/sesamestreety.jpg)
https://www.facebook.com/michaeljackson
- And as if it wasn't enough, Jackie Jackson retweeted the missing "N" tweet in question:
(http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/888/jackienretweet.jpg)
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"N" highlight:
- To continue with our "N" saga I'm adding a picture posted by Jaafar Jackson on his webstagram: clearly the letter "N" is the one highLIGHTED; z x c v b N :icon_cool:
(http://distilleryimage8.s3.amazonaws.com/b37d3328314511e2ac9b22000a1fb864_7.jpg)
http://web.stagram.com/p/327143960545884464_28479125
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I shall call it the Joy/Happiness/Togetherness connection:
I don't want we forget all the times Front posted and made us happy just because of that lol
http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,5167.msg432573.html#msg432573
- Shortly after, Front posted:
------> http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,5167.msg432585.html#msg432585
- Finally the very next day, the official MJ Facebook posted the lyrics of "I'll Be There":
(http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/2917/llbethere.jpg)
- Very meaningful lyrics about joy cementing the dots together! :icon_e_wink:
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Good job Sarahli! :smiley_abuv:
Thank you so much!
:bearhug:
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Awesome job Sarahli!
Thank you for all the work putting this post together. :icon_mrgreen:
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Great work! I hadn't even seen all of them. I'll sticky it so you can access it quickly if you need to add stuff.
:th_bravo:
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Awesome Sarahli, this is absolutely perfect for anyone asking "Who is Front?" or anyone just wanting to remind themselves of all the connections.
And if Front is NOT Michael then he is Jermai_e. :icon_lol: :suspect: :icon_e_confused: :icon_eek: :icon_bounce: :icon_lol:
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Thank you everyone. :bearhug:
Great work! I hadn't even seen all of them. I'll sticky it so you can access it quickly if you need to add stuff.
:th_bravo:
Thanks, good idea :icon_e_wink:
Awesome Sarahli, this is absolutely perfect for anyone asking "Who is Front?" or anyone just wanting to remind themselves of all the connections.
And if Front is NOT Michael then he is Jermai_e. :icon_lol: :suspect: :icon_e_confused: :icon_eek: :icon_bounce: :icon_lol:
:thjajaja121:
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And if Front is NOT Michael then he is Jermai_e. :icon_lol: :suspect: :icon_e_confused: :icon_eek: :icon_bounce: :icon_lol:
Well, I think that's not such a stupid idea. I think that's a very good second choice actually. Hmmmmmm.....
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And if Front is NOT Michael then he is Jermai_e. :icon_lol: :suspect: :icon_e_confused: :icon_eek: :icon_bounce: :icon_lol:
Well, I think that's not such a stupid idea. I think that's a very good second choice actually. Hmmmmmm.....
It's something I've been considering for quite some time now...
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And if Front is NOT Michael then he is Jermai_e. :icon_lol: :suspect: :icon_e_confused: :icon_eek: :icon_bounce: :icon_lol:
Well, I think that's not such a stupid idea. I think that's a very good second choice actually. Hmmmmmm.....
It's something I've been considering for quite some time now...
OMG, imagine that! That would be hilarious! That also explains why they don't like Front over at .net :icon_lol: :icon_lol: :icon_lol:
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:affraid: Sarahli, you did a TITANIC work here! :bowdown:
And so nicely and clearly presented!! Wow!! :th_bravo:
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/mercifille.gif)
And if Front is NOT Michael then he is Jermai_e. :icon_lol: :suspect: :icon_e_confused: :icon_eek: :icon_bounce: :icon_lol:
:thjajaja121:
:thjajaja121:
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And if Front is NOT Michael then he is Jermai_e. :icon_lol: :suspect: :icon_e_confused: :icon_eek: :icon_bounce: :icon_lol:
Well, I think that's not such a stupid idea. I think that's a very good second choice actually. Hmmmmmm.....
It's something I've been considering for quite some time now...
OMG, imagine that! That would be hilarious! That also explains why they don't like Front over at .net :icon_lol: :icon_lol: :icon_lol:
Ahahaha! That's perfect.
I had posted a while ago in the back/Front thread that Front didn't necessarily HAVE to be MJ because I had Jermaine in mind if he wasn't, lol. One thing for sure, Jermaine knows who Front is!
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Nice to see these clues/connections together. Thanks Sarahli! :)
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Wonderful Sarahli... :th_bravo:..awesome works....THANKSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS... :michael-jackson: :bowdown: :bearhug:
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Unbelievably awesome work Sarahli...just wow!
Thank you so much for all of this......
Blessings to you always.........
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This topic is brilliant! :th_bravo:
And the drawing of a cute little monkey in the last post of Front ... There was a video of Paris saying "Monkey ... help." This would be the nickname of Michael, right?
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Thanks for putting it all together Sarahli. You're the best.
:th_bravo:
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@Sarahli..... REALLY GREAT SWEETIE, I love you, thank you very much, actually you have made my work you know why?? because I am trying to convert my friends into beLIEvers and I was compiling all hints/clues to show them. :th_bravo:
You made my day :bearhug:
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:affraid: Sarahli :smiley_abuv: :th_bravo:
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Great job Sarahli! :th_bravo:
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@Sarahli Absolutely amazing job!!!! Wow! All those coincidences... huh... what is the chance of that happening? :LolLolLolLol:
@Andrea Jermai_e huh? :omg: Wouldn't that be very i_teresting! :compute:
You guys amaze me!
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Thank you so much for compiling all of Front's hints/clues in one thread. You should get an honorable mention from Front for that. :icon_cool: I'm still not 100% believer in Front but it's definitely interesting.
Btw, did Front mention anything about the spray can of febreze that was shown so prominent in the court room?
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:th_bravo: Sarahli .....job well done !!
And if Front is NOT Jermai_e then how about Ra_dy....he has been MIA far too long.
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Great compilation Sarahli, thanks so much for putting this together, I know how much work it required, hat's off to you!
I have a couple things to add and I hope it's ok since I didn't see them mentioned. Perhaps these are up for debate but I'll throw them out there anyway.
Screenshot from 9/30/11, what looked to me like a key, the old fashioned skeleton type key similar to the type that MJ drew in his art, laying on the Defense's desk in court:
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/courtkeyon.jpg)
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/courtkeyzo.jpg)
Also this pic Front posted summer 2011:
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/letyourfin.png)
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Awesome job, Sarahli!! :th_bravo:
Here's the pic of the missing N from the "No fighti g" sign in You Rock My World video.
(http://i1202.photobucket.com/albums/bb371/lifeisamovie1/MJ%20related%20not%20people/23gxlx51.jpg)
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Brilliant job Sarahli! :th_bravo: :th_bravo: thank you for your hard work!!
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I think that Front is not Jermaine because of that handwrtings similar or identical to Michael and picture with T-shirt, but who knows, maybe Front is Jermaine and Michael gave him handwritings and picture. But here comes funny post of Bec where Michael was giving instruction to someone about how the post should look like.. :icon_lol: So for me personally, Front is writing himself and taking picture of Himself. :icon_e_smile:
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Very well done Sarahli! Thank you. :smiley_abuv: :bearhug:
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I'm still not sure why MJ would feel the need to allow someone to speak for/pose as him. MJ's handwriting signing someone else's username doesn't make sense to me because I don't see a motive for that. If someone else is Front, signing as Front seems unnecessarily deceptive and I have observed a concerted effort to avoid telling direct untruths in favor of the mere suggestion of what is already widely believed from the Jackson's during the hoax. If MJ simply wanted to legitimize the Front username by submitting a handwriting sample, he could just hand write something naming Front, and that would serve the purpose without the need to directly lie --by signing as someone he is not, essentially forging a signature; "love, Front".
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Great, great work, Sarahli - so clear and evident - turns us from BeLIEvers into BeKnowers.
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Wow that makes things alot clearer and easy to follow,thankyou........ :th_bravo:
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Just like I don't think MJ would give the star role of 02 announcement or TII to a double, I don't think he would give this KEY role of communicating with the group so actively researching his hoax, to Jermaine. There's no purpose in it when Michael can easily do this himself. It would mean Back was Jermaine as well. And no way would Jermaine know MJ's intimate business, and Bible the way Back does. And everything we had already learned about MJ for the first 2 years, lined up with Front's personality, not Jermaine's. So I say, no way.
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Front:
Quote
If you're not a religious person…it matters not!
If you think Front is Mickey Mouse…it matters not!
If you're a religious person, have faith in God.
If you're not, then have faith in Michael.
If your faith is crumbling and you choose to leave your KNOWING (not beLIEving--- but "KNOWING"--- because, as I've stated many times before, believing & knowing are 2 different things) behind to disintegrate into dust…might as well say goodbye now because you won't make to the "other side".
For those of you losing faith, take a look "BACK" shall we?
•What is interesting here is the mention of Mickey Mouse. Some time later we received a hint from Omer who posted a Mickey Mouse watch: Official back & Front thread. And a tweet from Paris mentioning “Mouse”:
Is FRONT Omer bhatti? :WTF:
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Great work Sarahli. Thank you for putting it all here in the one thread and easily accessed by all.
(https://encrypted-tbn1.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQgSdwnIwn04gNZ4i6GDrwLfnBNKuHZfkx0BLSDHgBgWsKivUn6iQ)
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I'm not saying I necessarily think Front is Jermaine, I think MJ is more likely because I agree with bec that MJ doesn't need someone to speak for him, he's more than capable of doing it himself. But IF he's not, Jermaine makes sense. Especially after going through Sarahli's post - Jermaine Jermaine Jermaine! Lol, helpin' a brother out is the bottom line.
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Very well done Sarahli! Thank you for your brilliant information..Really appreciate it...
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Sarahli sis, :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:
You did an amazing job! :th_bravo: Now I can give the link of this page who still think it's a coincidence. Thank you.
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I'm not saying I necessarily think Front is Jermaine, I think MJ is more likely because I agree with bec that MJ doesn't need someone to speak for him, he's more than capable of doing it himself. But IF he's not, Jermaine makes sense. Especially after going through Sarahli's post - Jermaine Jermaine Jermaine! Lol, helpin' a brother out is the bottom line.
That makes lots of sense to me too Andrea. I also thought about Marlon. Study Peace! :icon_e_biggrin:
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Remember Jermaine is Muslim, I don't know if he has studied the Bible in a so deep way as Michael has shown us.
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/letyourfin.png)
@Bec.....as I have been studying Michael hand's for some years now after his dead I am almost able to assure that the hand in this pic belongs to Michael.
Blessings.
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:omg: sarahli you did a great job I really love it thanks a lot :th_bravo:
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Front:
"If you're not a religious person…it matters not!
If you think Front is Mickey Mouse…it matters not!
If you're a religious person, have faith in God.
If you're not, then have faith in Michael.
If your faith is crumbling and you choose to leave your KNOWING (not beLIEving--- but "KNOWING"--- because, as I've stated many times before, believing & knowing are 2 different things) behind to disintegrate into dust…might as well say goodbye now because you won't make to the "other side".
What is interesting here is the mention of Mickey Mouse. Some time later we received a hint from Omer who posted a Mickey Mouse watch: Official back & Front thread. And a tweet from Paris mentioning “Mouse”:
Is FRONT Omer bhatti? :WTF:
I think Front = Michael = Mickey ----- > Say HI to Mickey Mouse! (What's he up to?) (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/index.php?topic=22084.0)
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(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/letyourfin.png)
^^ I've never seen this photo before?
When and where did it appear?
The hands do look like Michael's.
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Thanks for putting it all together Sarahli...I know it must've taken you quite some time and it's greatly appreciated.
And I also agree that if Front isn't Mike, then Jermaine's the next best bet. I have a feeling that Donte also posts here...but not as Front.
@Sim, Front posted that pic awhile back.
With L.O.V.E. always.
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PureLove, I have someone else's username in mind for Marlon. ; )
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SimPattiK quote:
The hands do look like Michael's.
Yes his bones are very pronounced outward and have little violet veins over a very pale hand, definitely is him. :woohoo2:
BTW Michael I love your hands. :bearhug:
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Very few people on social network pages sign with their real names or reveal their true identities. Why would they? It’s like committing sociai suicide. :icon_eek: So why would Michael risk that just to patronize fans? So him using Front, Back or what ever he chooses does not seem so off the wall to me.
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@sweetsunsetwithMJ: yes, THAT one is a nice pair of hands! :icon_e_wink: :icon_e_wink:
@Sim, Front posted that pic awhile back.
:icon_eek: :icon_eek: :icon_eek:
He did? How on EARTH did I miss that!!??
I mean I've been through Front's posts like a dozen times, to search for key-words and language-clues, but I don't remember seeing that pic ever before this thread! :suspect: wtf? I guess sometimes we really ARE blind!!! even if we have our eyes wide open!! :animal0017:
Just one more reason to thank Sarahli once again, for her Front-clues RECAP! :icon_e_wink:
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PureLove, I have someone else's username in mind for Marlon. ; )
:affraid: PM it to me girl. :suspect:
@sweetsunsetwithMJ: yes, THAT one is a nice pair of hands! :icon_e_wink: :icon_e_wink:
@Sim, Front posted that pic awhile back.
:icon_eek: :icon_eek: :icon_eek:
He did? How on EARTH did I miss that!!??
I mean I've been through Front's posts like a dozen times, to search for key-words and language-clues, but I don't remember seeing that pic ever before this thread! :suspect: wtf? I guess sometimes we really ARE blind!!! even if we have our eyes wide open!! :animal0017:
I don't remember this hand picture posted by Front either. He posted one single hand like a waving hand. I guess I missed it too.
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No, I haven't seen the hands picture before either. I think I'd remember it if I had. (Will probably find I commented on it now!) Posted in Summer 2011, so maybe it was at a time I wasn't taking too much notice of him! Does anyone have a link to the post please?
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PureLove I'm at work and PM'ing here doesn't work for some reason (computer and internet suck, can't quote people either, or preview). Right now, I'd rather noT Say who I think Marlon could be, lol.
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Here's the link to where Front posted the pic:
For those of you losing faith, take a look "BACK" shall (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/index.php?topic=5167.msg338669#msg338669)
I always thought this was also a connection/'whisper' of some sort:
On June 28, 2011, Front wrote:
Aug 24 + 1 day of Simmering----> Aug 25
Do NOT forget the 1 day of Simmering, for it is a consequential and VITAL ingredient of the recipe---Past, Present & Future! Look for it............
And rest assured, my friends, they did NOT and WILL not break him, for he is..........
in a kiNgdom far Away
but perhaps cLoser than yoU thinK
Bolstering his next movE
checkmAtE----> is on the BRink
"with all that I've been through, I'm still around" --- Long live The King
For those of you losing faith, take a look "BACK" shall (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/index.php?topic=5167.msg340611#msg340611)
And then we had the autopsy pic....apart from being fake, was also dated wrong. It was dated August 25th...a date we were told to "look for it". The context of Front's post...and him mentioning that date specifically, might have been his way of assuring and/or comforting us in what ended up being a very 'tough' moment for many fans.
With L.O.V.E. always.
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I wish I knew how to go back and find stuff and post it like you do, since I don’t I have to pull it from my head, :Pulling_hair: . But wouldn’t the above post also reference the clock that was drawn by Front with the words past, present, and future on it? Seems he told us in the above to look for it.
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The pic is in this post: For those of you losing faith, take a look "BACK" shall (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/index.php?topic=5167.msg338669#msg338669)
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_ySCIT3KO9Zc/R8VTXch8lXI/AAAAAAAAJBo/Jy-lae9p6p0/s400/Yellow_Brick_Road_5.jpg)
Let your fingers do the walkin'……….
(http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/4306/letyourfingersdothewalk.png) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/822/letyourfingersdothewalk.png/)
Let your eyes do the watchin'……….
(http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQLtnj8EzRFQFgFuUfOFOei5jB7RaB5jzufDwjMNWkA6vhlnjA4Aw&t=1)
Speculate and conspire as you may. Allow me to reiterate…..do not take my words/numbers/dates as conclusive evidence. It's apparent that you don't---and that's a positive. The PROOF will manifest itself upon the proclamation of his return and during this journey together. You'll see. Regardless of "ASS"umptions, I wish you all well…but I will NOT tolerate another attempt at a mentality beating on a board. Had enough of that "Back" then.
Curls, you were posting actively at the time, do you remember now?
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Thank you for your answers. I'm so glad that it's appreciated. :)
I'll update my post with the new info you brought, thanks so much! :beerchug:
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^^ Thanks for posting the link BTC. Oh dear, that was an 'interesting' period in early Front history! A lot of us were thinking he was a troll - yes, bec, I made an embarrassing post on the same page, saying as much! So, too busy being sceptical to notice the hands I suppose! Makes me want to go back and read all 121 again, with fresh eyes, and hindsight, but I have a life to lead this weekend!!
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Lol, curls, did you read what I said to him?
I was in rare form.
However, I don't regret it as the reply it generated from him was exactly what convinced me he was not a troll, simply because of what he said. Trolls don't respond like that when I get on a roll. They just don't. Trust me :icon_lol:
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@Bec, yes, you were certainly on a roll at that time!
(Oooh, I have a nice post number!)
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Wall Photos | Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150911837806473&set=a.108910151472.86254.19691681472&type=1&theater)
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Wall Photos | Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150911837806473&set=a.108910151472.86254.19691681472&type=1&theater)
Excellent CC! :th_bravo:
(http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/6782/drawingpa.jpg)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/542968_10150911837806473_19691681472_9571683_337748042_n.jpg)
Front's DRAWING we received just before^^^
(http://i49.tinypic.com/2qdbvja.png)
:icon_lol:
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(http://i47.tinypic.com/2zj9rly.png)
Everything points out to Front being Michael. I really don't think it can be Jermaine. And it is OBVIOUSLY not Jermaine in this picture^^... clues by clues by clues by clues by clues we discovered Front. :smiley_abuv:
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What's neat about that 'little me' drawing is Front had quoted everlastinglove who mentioned "little Michael" just recently plus it's a sketch that doesn't look as 'professional' as some of the others, like it was drawn within a few minutes...much like the monkey.
(http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Respect/number-one-respect-953.gif)
Official back & Front thread (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/index.php?topic=21825.new#new)
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(http://i47.tinypic.com/2zj9rly.png)
Everything points out to Front being Michael. I really don't think it can be Jermaine. And it is OBVIOUSLY not Jermaine in this picture^^... clues by clues by clues by clues by clues we discovered Front. :smiley_abuv:
Agreed. It would be unnecessarily deceptive.
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:bearhug: Sarahli, thank you so much for this! :smiley_abuv: To all the others who added more clues, hints and whispers: Thanks to you also! :bearhug:
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Prince's old twitter avatar:
(http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/30/princejacksonavatartwit.jpg)
From Front:
(http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQLtnj8EzRFQFgFuUfOFOei5jB7RaB5jzufDwjMNWkA6vhlnjA4Aw&t=1)
Front recently called mindseye "Thirdeye".
I had done a post in the original back thread about the 'third eye' being your inner eye - higher consciousness. For the life of me, I can't find it right now but it's a gooder, lol. Well it was ok anyways.
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Third eye is also called the pineal gland. It is sensitive to light. It is largely a vestigial organ in most creatures today, a leftover from evolutionary changes. It lies directly in the middle of the forehead.
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Daev Daev was playing with pics making a 3rd eye.
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PureLove I'm at work and PM'ing here doesn't work for some reason (computer and internet suck, can't quote people either, or preview). Right now, I'd rather noT Say who I think Marlon could be, lol.
:LolLolLolLol: Yeah, why not. :icon_e_biggrin:
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Wall Photos | Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150911837806473&set=a.108910151472.86254.19691681472&type=1&theater)
Excellent CC! :th_bravo:
(http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/6782/drawingpa.jpg)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/542968_10150911837806473_19691681472_9571683_337748042_n.jpg)
Front's DRAWING we received just before^^^
(http://i49.tinypic.com/2qdbvja.png)
:icon_lol:
@sarahli you did it a great topic! i love it!
thank you for that!
about the drawings i have to say that the "e" is for me the same in both, the "l" not in caps and the "T" are identical...
Could be him?? what do you think??
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CC:
@sarahli you did it a great topic! i love it!
thank you for that!
about the drawings i have to say that the "e" is for me the same in both, the "l" not in caps and the "T" are identical...
Could be him?? what do you think??
Thank you CC! Yes I think it's him! :)
Here's a post where you can find a comparison of handwritings:
For those of you losing faith, take a look "BACK" shall we? (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/index.php?topic=5167.msg381166#msg381166)
Others have been made in the Back/Front thread as well.
P.S.: I have updated my initial post! Thank you TEAM--Work! :smiley_abuv:
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Thank you for this valuable thread, Sarahli :bearhug:
with LOVE
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It is interesting to read back over the thread after Front 1st made himself known in June 2011...and how skeptical we were (with good reason) and then to see the change in attitude and a light-bulb mom(m)ent for some.
Jermaine would have been my 2nd option for Front - but as Sarahli pointed out - that picture doesn't match Jermaine.
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Well, at least now y'all know who Front is----> (http://www.anikaos.com/0033-halloween_images/carved_pumpkins_faces/pumpkin_faces-02.png)
Love,
Mr. Pumpkin
xo
:icon_lol:
p.s. just wanna say to Sarahli -- all your hard work & efforts are greatly appreciated. This was obviously very time-consuming and took a lot of digging and researching.
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Welcome back Front. I like Applehead better. :smiley-vault-misc-150:
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Well, at least now y'all know who Front is----> (http://www.anikaos.com/0033-halloween_images/carved_pumpkins_faces/pumpkin_faces-02.png)
Love,
Mr. Pumpkin
xo
:icon_lol:
Not sure how you gathered that from this thread considering about half the responders agree you might be Jermaine.
Or are you being a smart ass?
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Well, at least now y'all know who Front is----> (http://www.anikaos.com/0033-halloween_images/carved_pumpkins_faces/pumpkin_faces-02.png)
Love,
Mr. Pumpkin
xo
:icon_lol:
p.s. just wanna say to Sarahli -- all your hard work & efforts are greatly appreciated. This was obviously very time-consuming and took a lot of digging and researching.
That Pumpkin reminds me of Halloween, and Halloween takes me to Oct 2009 at Universal.... was you there?? (Like TMZ say TMZ Live: MJ, Anna & Balloon Boy Bonanza | TMZ.com (http://www.tmz.com/2009/10/19/tmz-live-mj-anna-and-balloon-boy-bonanza/?sms_ss=facebook#ixzzOXs250iqk) ) :smiley-vault-misc-150:
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Well, at least now y'all know who Front is----> (http://www.anikaos.com/0033-halloween_images/carved_pumpkins_faces/pumpkin_faces-02.png)
Love,
Mr. Pumpkin
xo
:icon_lol:
p.s. just wanna say to Sarahli -- all your hard work & efforts are greatly appreciated. This was obviously very time-consuming and took a lot of digging and researching.
Well "someone" had Mr. Pumpkin placed front and centre so we could see his face during the Dr Murray trial, after a few requests here on the forum. So Front is this another alter ego of Michael's?
:icon_e_wink: :icon_lol:
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What I don't understand (and maybe someone on here can share their thoughts) is we talk about people emphasizing the letter N (either missing or including it), and connecting it to Front, but I've seen other people do the same.
Do you think it's some kind of code or thing put in communications so we will be sure to pay attention to what is being conveyed?
For example, this from @MrChuckD on Twitter (https://twitter.com/#!/mrchuckd/status/203637378332635136)
(http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/5272/chuckda.jpg)
Also N is the 14th letter in the alphabet and there's been talk about "stay on 14" over on the TMP threads.
See this post for example: TMP - Michael and the Movies - The Shawshank Redemption (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/index.php?topic=20508.msg392205#msg392205)
I see some coincidences, oddities but I'm not quite connecting the dots. Do any of you see/understand what I'm saying?
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Mickey Mouse, Pink Panther, Mr. Nappy Head, Monkey, and now Mr. Pumpkin!
Mr. Pumpkin is our forum colors too! Are you also a chameleon? :icon_lol:
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@ Lilwendy I am not sure about what you mean because in the connections about "N" it has to do with timing and because it's Michael's family. For example there is a reason why we take La Toya’s tweet as a clue. In my timing Front posted the “Spider cake” picture on 31 Aug 2011 – and he mentions the missing “N” again. The day after on 1st September La Toya tweeted that she went to the hospital “N the morning”. It’s not a coincidence and she could have written “in” which isn’t such a long word.
I have also included the link to another tweet she made concerning this incident where she mentions that she might have been bitten by an insect: Twitter (https://twitter.com/#!/latoyajackson/status/109448404844818432) – and this connects to the “Spider” in Front’s cake picture, as a spider is also an insect.
So it’s really a big clue because of the timing, the “N” capitalized, the mention of “insect” (aka spider) and because it’s Michael’s sister.
Something else comes to my mind now – she also posted a picture of herself at the hospital and at the time we had fun analyzing the picture:
http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg814/scaled.php?tn=0&server=814&filename=2awi.jpg&xsize=640&ysize=640 (http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg814/scaled.php?tn=0&server=814&filename=2awi.jpg&xsize=640&ysize=640)
In the little screen in the background there seems to be something that looks like a spider… :animal0017:
(http://i53.tinypic.com/34hie80.jpg)
So I would say that it doesn't matter if others do the same because there is nothing connecting their "N" to Front... :icon_lol: ... and sorry if I misunderstood you. :icon_mrgreen:
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Well, at least now y'all know who Front is----> (http://www.anikaos.com/0033-halloween_images/carved_pumpkins_faces/pumpkin_faces-02.png)
Love,
Mr. Pumpkin
xo
:icon_lol:
p.s. just wanna say to Sarahli -- all your hard work & efforts are greatly appreciated. This was obviously very time-consuming and took a lot of digging and researching.
Thank you Mr. Pumpkin. :icon_lol: Your appreciation is appreciated. :beerchug:
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Sarahli as Mr. Front said all of your hard work and efforts are appreciated. You started a great thread and the priceless information that has come from your hard work and others is "HUGE". Thank you. :bearhug:
P.S. Mr Front - Pumpkins are my all time favorite! I love seeing fields of unpicked pumpkins, I want to pick them all and take them home!!!!! Sorry for being so strange :bearhug:
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I heard your work might even change the minds of some over at .net, hahahaha. Good job!
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Mickey Mouse, Pink Panther, Mr. Nappy Head, Monkey, and now Mr. Pumpkin!
Mr. Pumpkin is our forum colors too! Are you also a chameleon? :icon_lol:
You forgot AppleHead! :icon_lol: :icon_lol: :icon_lol:
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Mickey Mouse, Pink Panther, Mr. Nappy Head, Monkey, and now Mr. Pumpkin!
Mr. Pumpkin is our forum colors too! Are you also a chameleon? :icon_lol:
Mr. Nappy Head? :icon_lol: :icon_lol:
I obviously missed something
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I heard your work might even change the minds of some over at .net, hahahaha. Good job!
Good to know! :Michael_Jackson_dancing_smile
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Amazing work!Brilliant! Fantastic! :th_bravo:
Thank you so much, Sarahli. :bearhug:
I LOVE YOU ALL & GOD BLESS ;)
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Mickey Mouse, Pink Panther, Mr. Nappy Head, Monkey, and now Mr. Pumpkin!
Mr. Pumpkin is our forum colors too! Are you also a chameleon? :icon_lol:
You forgot AppleHead! :icon_lol: :icon_lol: :icon_lol:
You forgot Doo Doo :icon_lol: :penguin:
@Front...which one do you prefer??
(http://funny-pics-fun.com/wp-content/uploads/Animals-And-Pumpkins-
21.jpg)
(http://toswingonthespiral.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/funny-pumpkin-designs-3-1-800x800.jpg)
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Well, at least now y'all know who Front is----> (http://www.anikaos.com/0033-halloween_images/carved_pumpkins_faces/pumpkin_faces-02.png)
Love,
Mr. Pumpkin
xo
:icon_lol:
p.s. just wanna say to Sarahli -- all your hard work & efforts are greatly appreciated. This was obviously very time-consuming and took a lot of digging and researching.
Sorry Front, but not all of us know (or beLIEVE) who you are yet but other than your little rant at French Braid your character has been pretty consistent so I give you much kudo's for being patient, persistent, and understanding. :suspect: :suspect: :smiley-vault-misc-150:
Sarahli - you've done an excellent job of putting this information together. It's drawing me close to the edge of understanding. Thank you :)
CC - I don't think those letters match at all but maybe it's my skeptical mind at work. I'll keep trying to see the connection.
I have to ask about the monkey drawing though vs the Little Me drawing - what is the connection? I'm sorry that I don't understand.
On the same vein - my son, who is a natural artist, could draw a monkey like that when he was very young. It makes it hard for me to believe that Michael, who is an incredible artist in his own right, would draw that monkey. Even to throw something together for us, I just don't see it. Sorry, Front. If you are Michael I guess my perception of you is waaaaaaaaaaay off. At any rate when the truth is told I'll have learned much about my own preconceived ideas and how they stack up to reality. Blessings to you all the same.
Question - was the Orange forum color the same on the first MJHD site that was ran by Amy? Or, is it a color that came later?
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Sarahli always trying to bring info to the lost!
I should say that what got me a little doubting myself was the Facebook post about MJ´s quote of the present and the drawing "little me".
Still, and Sarahli , pls, don´t get angry with me, I can´t say that Front=MJ, but I am open to think that for whatever reason there is a connection this time between Front´s posts and MJ´s Facebook. I don´t know the reason yet, but it got me a bit nervous those 2 coincidences.
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@voice hi!! the conection between facebook and front is that both post picture almost at the same time, just that. i think the monkey is not good, already said that to front. i expect much more from him (lol) the letters for me are similiar, not the same, like someone is trying to copy the style, just that.
@MissG i think the same! maybe a conection, but idk why??
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@voice hi!! the conection between facebook and front is that both post picture almost at the same time, just that. i think the monkey is not good, already said that to front. i expect much more from him (lol) the letters for me are similiar, not the same, like someone is trying to copy the style, just that.
@MissG i think the same! maybe a conection, but idk why??
Thank you for taking the time to explain. It's much clearer now.
So - is it possible to post pictures on two different websites/forums at the same time? And is it possible to be a coincidence? MJ's official website posts pictures all the time. If the pictures were the same then I'd :affraid:
Front - how about it...same picture at exact same time on both sites. Then you'd have me reeled in.
Blessings
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@voice hi!! the conection between facebook and front is that both post picture almost at the same time, just that. i think the monkey is not good, already said that to front. i expect much more from him (lol) the letters for me are similiar, not the same, like someone is trying to copy the style, just that.
@MissG i think the same! maybe a conection, but idk why??
Thank you for taking the time to explain. It's much clearer now.
So - is it possible to post pictures on two different websites/forums at the same time? And is it possible to be a coincidence? MJ's official website posts pictures all the time. If the pictures were the same then I'd :affraid:
Front - how about it...same picture at exact same time on both sites. Then you'd have me reeled in.
Blessings
not the same picture, front posted the monkey and michael jackson the little me picture, childish drawings both, just that!
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Voiceforthesilent:
On the same vein - my son, who is a natural artist, could draw a monkey like that when he was very young. It makes it hard for me to believe that Michael, who is an incredible artist in his own right, would draw that monkey. Even to throw something together for us, I just don't see it. Sorry, Front. If you are Michael I guess my perception of you is waaaaaaaaaaay off. At any rate when the truth is told I'll have learned much about my own preconceived ideas and how they stack up to reality. Blessings to you all the same.
Dear voice, I hear what you are saying, but I hope you can take on board these points too.
1. Regarding you saying that Michael is an artist and wouldn’t draw this monkey - please note that Front responded to some posts requesting a sketch. Within minutes, he had posted that Monkey sketch. So it was just something he did very quickly. I don’t think it was meant to be a major piece of fine art. So try to see this in context.
2. I believe this was just a little cheerful gift to help lighten the mood somewhat, just like he has done in the past. So not something to be taken so seriously.
3. Lastly, in all honesty, IMO, he wasn’t trying to prove anything to anyone with that sketch.
Blessings to you too always. :bearhug:
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I haven't looked at Front's posts since before Murray's trial, but Sarahli's timeline caught my eye. I can imagine how much work went into it, thank you for that.
At this point I have no opinion on Front's identity but two things in this timeline are hard to ignore. First is the chronology of the missing “N”s, ending at the coroner's photo. I hadn't noticed that before.
N is the 14th letter of the alphabet and, according to this
Biblical Meaning of Numbers - Biblical Numerology - The List Teaser Chart (http://www.christian-resources-today.com/biblical-meaning-of-numbers.html)
14 means:
Fourteen : 14 - This Biblical Meaning of Number 14: comes from my understanding that it normally deals with one gaining a spiritual perfection that is doubled measured in strength or spiritual completeness that is twice over.
Also hard to write off as coincidence is Front's song “99 bottles of propofol” posted the month before the trial started. I don't think anyone knew just how much propofol had been ordered before the trial, did they?
Sigh..... sometimes I feel like “Keep watchin'” was a curse!
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I haven't looked at Front's posts since before Murray's trial, but Sarahli's timeline caught my eye. I can imagine how much work went into it, thank you for that.
At this point I have no opinion on Front's identity but two things in this timeline are hard to ignore. First is the chronology of the missing “N”s, ending at the coroner's photo. I hadn't noticed that before.
N is the 14th letter of the alphabet and, according to this
Biblical Meaning of Numbers - Biblical Numerology - The List Teaser Chart (http://www.christian-resources-today.com/biblical-meaning-of-numbers.html)
14 means:
Fourteen : 14 - This Biblical Meaning of Number 14: comes from my understanding that it normally deals with one gaining a spiritual perfection that is doubled measured in strength or spiritual completeness that is twice over.
Also hard to write off as coincidence is Front's song “99 bottles of propofol” posted the month before the trial started. I don't think anyone knew just how much propofol had been ordered before the trial, did they?
Sigh..... sometimes I feel like “Keep watchin'” was a curse!
Glad to see you, Just Ducky - I agree...those are for undeniable connections that cannot be ignored, which is why I think Front is someone in the know but not necessarily Michael. I also think the spider connections are too coincidental.
Sarahli - you are awesome. Thank you for being so patient with me. What you say is true as well. I've struggled with seeing the lighthearted humor mixed into this hoax, which is odd because I naturally try to keep situations lighthearted. Maybe because I feel like the hoax was spawned from something much deeper than creating humor for MJ's supporters and fans. But yes, it can't all be serious, right?
L.O.V.E. to you - keep up the good work on this thread. It's extremely valuable having these connections together like this.
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JustDucky:
I don't think anyone knew just how much propofol had been ordered before the trial, did they?
I remember that it was a very big surprise for all to learn just how much Propofol Murray had ordered. And who could have known that it would be presented this way during the trial --displaying exhibits like they did showing clearly all those Propofol bottles…
Just for a reminder:
Lopez had testified in January that Dr Murray bought 255 vials of Propofol in the three months before the singer died from a lethal combination of the drug and other sedatives.
Read more: 'Michael Jackson drank Propofol before he died': Conrad Murray trial turned upside down? | Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2038988/Michael-Jackson-drank-Propofol-died-Conrad-Murray-trial-turned-upside-down.html#ixzz1vLxg5pr3)
@ Voice, I understand that you may only see the serious aspect of the Hoax and it’s the most important one because it’s not been designed for our entertainment but some humour from time to time is very helpful and needed to keep going and I think that it’s an aspect of the “reality game” -- the spontaneity of exchanges. That’s why certain things like the snippets or the monkey sketch aren’t meant to be taken so seriously but just for the bit of fun we can indulge in.
Again thank you to everyone for all your appreciation.
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Also hard to write off as coincidence is Front's song “99 bottles of propofol” posted the month before the trial started. I don't think anyone knew just how much propofol had been ordered before the trial, did they?
Actually, that was known since the preliminary hearing in January 2011 (about 9 months before the trial) from Tim Lopez' testimony (a lot of things were testified about at the prelim, so a lot of things that were later mentioned during the trial had been in the news in January 2011 already):
Michael Jackson Murder Trial UPDATE-Missing Witness Found In The Dr. Conrad Murray Case | Baby Boomer Advisor Club (http://babyboomeradvisorclub.com/2011/09/20/michael-jackson-murder-trial-update-missing-witness-found-in-the-dr-conrad-murray-case/)
Pharmacist Tim Lopez testified at Murray’s preliminary hearing in January of 2011. He stated that he shipped more than 15 liters of the surgical anesthetic propofol, to the apartment of Murray’s girlfriend (he is married by the way) over the three months before Michael Jackson’s death.
Does 15 liters seem like an awful lot of propofol to anyone else but me? Granted I am not a physician but…who was he treating an army platoon?
P. S. It says January as well in the link that Sarahli quoted.
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And if Front is NOT Michael then he is Jermai_e. :icon_lol: :suspect: :icon_e_confused: :icon_eek: :icon_bounce: :icon_lol:
Well, I think that's not such a stupid idea. I think that's a very good second choice actually. Hmmmmmm.....
It's something I've been considering for quite some time now...
OMG, imagine that! That would be hilarious! That also explains why they don't like Front over at .net :icon_lol: :icon_lol: :icon_lol:
Ahahaha! That's perfect.
I had posted a while ago in the back/Front thread that Front didn't necessarily HAVE to be MJ because I had Jermaine in mind if he wasn't, lol. One thing for sure, Jermaine knows who Front is!
Maybe - I'd agree with this. Jermaine is a good fit but what about the younger Jackson generation? I wonder if Anthony's tweet from 4/28 has any connection?
ANTHONY JACKSON @ATONCLASSIC
I bet there are trillions of Michael Jackson fans if you include the aliens receiving lil Mike live via American Bandstand. #TrillionsForMJ
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(http://Lil Mike.jpg)
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@ Scream
No one knew it was going to be presented in the way it was presented during the trial. Front clearly said "bottles of Propofol on the wall" -- and sure enough, it was indeed on the wall presented in court the way Front said.
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Also hard to write off as coincidence is Front's song “99 bottles of propofol” posted the month before the trial started. I don't think anyone knew just how much propofol had been ordered before the trial, did they?
Actually, that was known since the preliminary hearing in January 2011 (about 9 months before the trial) from Tim Lopez' testimony (a lot of things were testified about at the prelim, so a lot of things that were later mentioned during the trial had been in the news in January 2011 already):
Michael Jackson Murder Trial UPDATE-Missing Witness Found In The Dr. Conrad Murray Case | Baby Boomer Advisor Club (http://babyboomeradvisorclub.com/2011/09/20/michael-jackson-murder-trial-update-missing-witness-found-in-the-dr-conrad-murray-case/)
Pharmacist Tim Lopez testified at Murray’s preliminary hearing in January of 2011. He stated that he shipped more than 15 liters of the surgical anesthetic propofol, to the apartment of Murray’s girlfriend (he is married by the way) over the three months before Michael Jackson’s death.
Does 15 liters seem like an awful lot of propofol to anyone else but me? Granted I am not a physician but…who was he treating an army platoon?
P. S. It says January as well in the link that Sarahli quoted.
15 liters
:icon_eek: :suspect:
Thank you for this article! I'm still I'm wondering if they talk about 255 vials of 100 ml Propofol which is 25,5 liters, what happened to the other 10,5 liters (99 vials x 100 ml is almost 10 liters) Vanished to Thailand?? :suspect:
Conrad Murray Trial -- Key Witness Has VANISHED | TMZ.com (http://www.tmz.com/2011/09/15/conrad-murray-trial-key-witness-has-vanished-michael-jackson-propofol-pharmacist-tim-lopez-thailand/)
Conrad Murray Trial Key Witness Has VANISHED (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/index.php?topic=20447.25)
L.O.V.E.
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@ Scream
No one knew it was going to be presented in the way it was presented during the trial. Front clearly said "bottles of Propofol on the wall" -- and sure enough, it was indeed on the wall presented in court the way Front said.
I replied to "no one knew a month before the trial how much Murray had ordered".
15 liters
:icon_eek: :suspect:
Thank you for this article! I'm still I'm wondering if they talk about 255 vials of 100 ml Propofol which is 25,5 liters, what happened to the other 10,5 liters (99 vials x 100 ml is almost 10 liters) Vanished to Thailand?? :suspect:
Conrad Murray Trial -- Key Witness Has VANISHED | TMZ.com (http://www.tmz.com/2011/09/15/conrad-murray-trial-key-witness-has-vanished-michael-jackson-propofol-pharmacist-tim-lopez-thailand/)
Conrad Murray Trial Key Witness Has VANISHED (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/index.php?topic=20447.25)
L.O.V.E.
Murray ordered 20 ml vials and 100 ml vials.
HOW MUCH PROPOFOL DID CONRAD MURRAY REALLY GIVE TO MICHAEL JACKSON? ~ LET'S CALL SPADE A SPADE (http://muzikfactorytwo.blogspot.com/2011/07/how-much-propofol-did-conrad-murray.html)
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@scream
* smacking my forehead * I forgot all about the preliminary hearing!
Information overload.....
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Dear JustDucky and Scream, Yes, this was already discussed in the other threads. I'm not sure what the relevance of the amount is here in Front's Clues thread though since no one said anything about the amount. There are some great conversations and posts in the Official back/Front thread as well if you would like to take a look, but let me warn you, there's a LOT of reading to do! LOL Here is the link: Official back & Front thread (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/index.php?topic=21825.0)
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@ Lilwendy I am not sure about what you mean because in the connections about "N" it has to do with timing and because it's Michael's family. For example there is a reason why we take La Toya’s tweet as a clue. In my timing Front posted the “Spider cake” picture on 31 Aug 2011 – and he mentions the missing “N” again. The day after on 1st September La Toya tweeted that she went to the hospital “N the morning”. It’s not a coincidence and she could have written “in” which isn’t such a long word.
So I would say that it doesn't matter if others do the same because there is nothing connecting their "N" to Front... :icon_lol: ... and sorry if I misunderstood you. :icon_mrgreen:
Yes I agree that it is a big clue and beyond coincidence with the N, the family and the timing. All I'm saying is not only are family using the N but so are other people and I was wondering if it was possibly not isolated to the family. But now that you mentioned the timing, I think THAT is what REALLY clinches the connection for me. It's not just the use of the N (like in the tweet I showed) but the TIMING as well. So thanks for reiterating that... your answer clarified things for me a bit more.
Again, Sarahli, I believe what you've done here was, is, and will continue to be a valuable post for all those wondering about Front. We are not talking about our own subjective feelings here but just presenting the events and saying form your own belief about Front. Well done!
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I'll just sit and watch...the Real Michael knows why...
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I'll just sit and watch...the Real Michael knows why...
Oh really? Well maybe you should enlighten us too? Or else why make a comment like that? You do that often, I get the feeling you want attention. What is it Tink?
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*does handstand*
i want some attention :Þ
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Something that strongly validates Front for me, is his connection to TS, who we KNOW has a vast amount of brilliant inside information on the hoax workings, but has less open connections to family etc. TS has thoroughly earned so much respect from 'most' of the forum members.
In my opinion his sense of humor/wit is EXACTLY like Front's. :suspect: :icon_lol:
On Sept. 21, Front said,
Michael: {standing alone…shakes his head…and breaks out into a rendition of 99 Bottles Of Beer On The Wall} 99 bottles of Propofol… 99 bottles of Propofol… take 1 down, pass it around--oops! where did it go?….. 98 bottles of Propofol………
On Sept 20, TS said,
You see, even at a very slow and relaxed pace, you could pick up one bottle every 5 seconds. This means that CM should've been able to pick up about 777 bottles of propofol in about an hour. But if there were hundreds and hundres of bottles kicking around on the floor: I guess that there would be nowhere that was clear of bottles, to lay the patient.
(and more about propofol that same day…) Conrad Murray : " Michael was fine as he lay dead " LoL (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/index.php?topic=20493.msg356274#msg356274)
Dec 31, Front posted this Exodus map relating to Ron Wyatt discoveries.
(http://pelitasamudra.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/583705232_1535b0c105_m.jpg?w=240&h=177)
TS redirected the same map, (later talking about Ron Wyatt in Sign #1)
307 (Jan 6) The Exodus Route: http://pelitasamudra.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/583705232_1535b0c105_m.jpg?w=240&h=177 (http://pelitasamudra.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/583705232_1535b0c105_m.jpg?w=240&h=177)
TS also redirected to a Front post requited by Fordtocarr
312 (Feb 10) Front post One Love, Truth: Official back & Front thread Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators - Page 27 (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/smf2.0/index.php?topic=21825.msg388951#msg388951)
Redirects thanks to Lilwendy
Lilwendy's Investigation –> Mission –> Life (http://lilwendy.wordpress.com/)
Simpa and SweetsunsetwithMJ, I love the names Applehead and Doo Doo, but I don’t think they are connected to Front persay, more to MJ persona! :icon_e_smile:
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hmmm……….
I get the FEELING a "circus" is underway. The stench of vulture$ ready to pounce like pitbulls on poodles is PALPABLE. I hope they enjoy it while it lasts. Those rent-a-crackerjacks will choke on the peaNUTS they're selling during their major feeding frenzy FAIL.
(http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/342/25661558.jpg)
Another validation???
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hmmm……….
I get the FEELING a "circus" is underway. The stench of vulture$ ready to pounce like pitbulls on poodles is PALPABLE. I hope they enjoy it while it lasts. Those rent-a-crackerjacks will choke on the peaNUTS they're selling during their major feeding frenzy FAIL.
(http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/342/25661558.jpg)
Another validation???
Hi5! I just posted the same in the Back/Front thread.
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This is very cool......too in yo' face :icon_lol: :icon_cool:
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Awh sweet!
That's from Madagascar 3, at 1:57 "It's going to be a circus" and then the silly song. :icon_lol:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVEinXUrEp0[/youtube]
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Thank you guys for bringing this new whisper from Paris! :beerchug: I have updated my original post: Family/MJ Official Facebook Page -- Clues/Hints/Whispers -- validating Front (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/index.php?topic=22635.0)
This is very cool......too in yo' face :icon_lol: :icon_cool:
Yes i_deed! :icon_e_wink:
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Something that strongly validates Front for me, is his connection to TS, who we KNOW has a vast amount of brilliant inside information on the hoax workings, but has less open connections to family etc. TS has thoroughly earned so much respect from 'most' of the forum members.
In my opinion his sense of humor/wit is EXACTLY like Front's. :suspect: :icon_lol:
On Sept. 21, Front said,
Michael: {standing alone…shakes his head…and breaks out into a rendition of 99 Bottles Of Beer On The Wall} 99 bottles of Propofol… 99 bottles of Propofol… take 1 down, pass it around--oops! where did it go?….. 98 bottles of Propofol………
On Sept 20, TS said,
You see, even at a very slow and relaxed pace, you could pick up one bottle every 5 seconds. This means that CM should've been able to pick up about 777 bottles of propofol in about an hour. But if there were hundreds and hundres of bottles kicking around on the floor: I guess that there would be nowhere that was clear of bottles, to lay the patient.
(and more about propofol that same day…) Conrad Murray : " Michael was fine as he lay dead " LoL (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/index.php?topic=20493.msg356274#msg356274)
Dec 31, Front posted this Exodus map relating to Ron Wyatt discoveries.
(http://pelitasamudra.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/583705232_1535b0c105_m.jpg?w=240&h=177)
TS redirected the same map, (later talking about Ron Wyatt in Sign #1)
307 (Jan 6) The Exodus Route: http://pelitasamudra.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/583705232_1535b0c105_m.jpg?w=240&h=177 (http://pelitasamudra.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/583705232_1535b0c105_m.jpg?w=240&h=177)
TS also redirected to a Front post requited by Fordtocarr
312 (Feb 10) Front post One Love, Truth: Official back & Front thread Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators - Page 27 (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/smf2.0/index.php?topic=21825.msg388951#msg388951)
Redirects thanks to Lilwendy
Lilwendy's Investigation –> Mission –> Life (http://lilwendy.wordpress.com/)
Great info MJonmind. As you started this post about TS & Front I am just going to add a couple of connections here:
- TS also validated Front in the 3rd January 2012 redirect with a post made in the Back/Front thread mentioning Front and the handwriting authenticity between other things:
TIAI January 3 (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/index.php?topic=21814.msg381923#msg381923)
For those of you losing faith, take a look "BACK" shall we? (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/index.php?topic=5167.msg381977#msg381977)
- Before the 3rd Jan redirect there has been an important link/connection made between TS & Front. It was about the “pie” and 777th day of the Hoax. I just gathered posts by Back/Front/TS which help connect things together and see a clearer picture:
Back made several posts mentioning the "pie" here’s one: http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/7283/72682006.jpg (http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/7283/72682006.jpg)
Then came Front:
« on: 25 June 2011»
Front:
Can you smell the NEW & improved recipe Simmering to perfection?
Check the details and ask yourself this…..
1. Is the temperature set at 376 degrees?
2. Is the timer set for 25 minutes?
3. Has it "chilled" for 43 minutes?
If you can answer yes to all of the above, then the ("pie") mold shall be broken indeed.
They say a watched pot never boils, however, in THIS case I would suggest putting that pot on the Front burner and----> KEEP Watchin'
For those of you losing faith, take a look "BACK" shall (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/index.php?topic=5167.msg339921#msg339921)
In relation with these posts about “pie” here are two posts by Front asking us to look forward to a specific date which was 11 August 2011:
Front : « on: 17 June 2011»
Past, present & future
Hi(s)Story shall be told
dates, events, numbers intertwine
and whispers shall unfold……….
Voyage to continue @ Aug 10 2011 (+1 day of Simmering)----> Aug 11 (777th day from Lights Out)
A vision, Aug 25 2006
Lights out, Jun 25 2009
Illumination, Jun 11 2011
Voyage continues, Aug 10 2011
Excluding (1 day of "simmering")
For those of you losing faith, take a look "BACK" shall (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/index.php?topic=5167.msg338557#msg338557)
Front: « on: 16 June 2011 »
777.........
28…17…80…37
Plz compute the calculations, execute the numbers, and please Keep Watchin'..........
p.s. first one...ready?
2+8+1+7=18…8-1=7
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----> 777
p.s.s. 777th day from "Lights Out"...dates/numbers will shed tremendous "BACK"light, and he who seeks understanding shall receive it.
For those of you losing faith, take a look "BACK" shall (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/index.php?topic=5167.msg338495#msg338495)
- And finally, TS posted the “pie” on 11 Aug 2011, the 777th day of the Hoax:
Happy Birthday Applehead! :multiplespotting:
(http://www.freedsbakery.com/uploads/13/bb/13bb8ab8a0eaaeb75b619d63c57db708/Vegas-777-Birthday-Website.jpg)
- And Front acknowledged that it was well the "Pie" in this post shortly after:
Front: « on: 13 August 2011»
Horizon----> E-X-P-A-N-D
Ongoing…………….
p.s. Enjoy the "pie". :icon_geek: :icon_e_wink:
p.s.s. Get yo' Smurfs on!
(http://photoshopcontest.com/boards/images/smiles/icon_smurf.gif)
For those of you losing faith, take a look "BACK" shall we? (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/index.php?topic=5167.msg347958#msg347958)
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Thanks Sarahli! The TS "cake" and Front's "pie" was a good clue but slightly weaker perhaps for those needing authenticity proofs that Front was ligit IMO. Still it was funny too! I totally forgot about TS' Jan 3 redirect of Front and handwriting, definitely validing Front with TS. So for those believing TS is working with MJ at least, it puts Front in the inner circle as well. It's all 'brick' by 'brick'!
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/offthewall.jpg)
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Thanks Sarahli! The TS "cake" and Front's "pie" was a good clue but slightly weaker perhaps for those needing authenticity proofs that Front was ligit IMO. Still it was funny too! I totally forgot about TS' Jan 3 redirect of Front and handwriting, definitely validing Front with TS. So for those believing TS is working with MJ at least, it puts Front in the inner circle as well. It's all 'brick' by 'brick'!
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/offthewall.jpg)
I think you're right MJonMind. It's just piece by piece or brick by brick. We just have to keep "building","cooking","baking", and "simmering".
:moonwalk_:
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American Idol Fnal... Steven Tyler with a monkey on his shoulder... and then they sing I´m a Believer! LOL
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American Idol Fnal... Steven Tyler with a monkey on his shoulder... and then they sing I´m a Believer! LOL
yes, it is true what i have just seen :icon_lol:
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American Idol Fnal... Steven Tyler with a monkey on his shoulder... and then they sing I´m a Believer! LOL
I saw that too, and thought about Front's monkey! :LolLolLolLol:
I was cheering for Jessica though. :icon_e_sad:
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It's all so clear for us.....the rest of the people seem to be really dumb
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It's all so clear for us.....the rest of the people seem to be really dumb
jina,it's so clear that seems 2 be.... unreal! :affraid: (do u understand what i mean?) ok,i'm crazy. sometimes,i think that mj will comeback (if he'll decide,of course) only 4 us,4 being alive only 4 his fans and not 4 the rest of ppl who has never opened their eyes... 4 being alive only 4 who is able 2 believe.
*LUNA*
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It's all so clear for us.....the rest of the people seem to be really dumb
jina,it's so clear that seems 2 be.... unreal! :affraid: (do u understand what i mean?) ok,i'm crazy. sometimes,i think that mj will comeback (if he'll decide,of course) only 4 us,4 being alive only 4 his fans and not 4 the rest of ppl who has never opened their eyes... 4 being alive only 4 who is able 2 believe.
*LUNA*
Well, Joe just said "Bam" was when Michael would disappear on the stage and then appear in another part where the audience didn't expect him. But at least MJ DID reveal himself to the audience, just in an unexpected way/place. But if he's just revealing to us it's not much of a BAM, more like a b-a-a-a-m-m ...
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Fr_3pNUpKOw[/youtube]
Joe at 2:30 "Bam" thanks to Everlastinglove_MJ!
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looks like my sarcasm was too subtle LOL!
nothing is crystal clear :Pulling_hair:
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Well, at least now y'all know who Front is----> (http://www.anikaos.com/0033-halloween_images/carved_pumpkins_faces/pumpkin_faces-02.png)
Love,
Mr. Pumpkin
xo
:icon_lol:
Mr. Pumpkin nooooooooo :Pulling_hair: can't be you...simply because it's too good to be true :suspect:
....and you can do much better than that stolen snippet :icon_rr:...can't you....
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The magic will be over??? Au contraire, my friend. This is just the beginning. Perhaps a shift on perspective is needed.
In the words of Michael Jackson --- "The best is yet to come".
Bis zum ende……..
Oh I am sorry Michael, I know it has to be you, I am just too scared not to be wrong.
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@Michael.... are you multilingual or do you just like to use slang words ??? :LolLolLolLol:
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Guys, this thought has been on my mind for a long time. I have been reading the many threads and the posts by many people with some very great insights and great brainstorming. We have the different things going on with the Presley family with the verifications of true blood relative of Elvis and this entire thing with Michael as well. We know the connection between Elvis and Michael is Lisa Marie(I will place this as the past) now what is connection between Michael and Lisa Marie now or rather who? Elvis--------Lisa Marie-------Michael. Michael----------____________----------Lisa Marie.
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Guys, this thought has been on my mind for a long time. I have been reading the many threads and the posts by many people with some very great insights and great brainstorming. We have the different things going on with the Presley family with the verifications of true blood relative of Elvis and this entire thing with Michael as well. We know the connection between Elvis and Michael is Lisa Marie(I will place this as the past) now what is connection between Michael and Lisa Marie now or rather who? Elvis--------Lisa Marie-------Michael. Michael----------____________----------Lisa Marie.
Wrong thread. Please post this in the right topic.
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Well, at least now y'all know who Front is----> (http://www.anikaos.com/0033-halloween_images/carved_pumpkins_faces/pumpkin_faces-02.png) (http://www.anikaos.com/0033-halloween_images/carved_pumpkins_faces/pumpkin_faces-02.png)
Love,
Mr. Pumpkin
xo
:icon_lol:
So it was YOU in the courtroom ? ?
On a court service desk?
:icon_eek:
And I entertained the thought you were iPad guy.
:icon_lol:
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Ipad guyyyyyyyy!!!!
No idea who pumpkin guy was.
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forget it. I'll just read from now on.
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I'm adding this here because it's too much for even me (the skeptical one) to ignore.
Note from Michael to Lisa Marie to be sold by Julien's Auctions (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/index.php?topic=22675.msg406531#msg406531)
The Scratch N' Sniff comments on the Front/Back thread April 27th and now the Scrath N' Sniff note from MJ to LMP.
I have to admit - this was pretty clever of him.
Blessings
voice I don't get it, can you please explain?
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I'm adding this here because it's too much for even me (the skeptical one) to ignore.
Note from Michael to Lisa Marie to be sold by Julien's Auctions (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/index.php?topic=22675.msg406531#msg406531)
The Scratch N' Sniff comments on the Front/Back thread April 27th and now the Scrath N' Sniff note from MJ to LMP.
I have to admit - this was pretty clever of him.
Blessings
@Voice..... :icon_razz: This is the one that will push you across the line. Brilliant stuff. Makes me crack up. It's fun being on the insanely sane side of things. Paris agrees that all the best people are bonkers.
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:icon_lol: I love it.......subtle yet very effective connection!
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Oh Now I know what the connection is.
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Amazing summary Sarahli! Thanks so much for doing all that! It's incredible to see that way everything fits in when you go back and look at it all. Now I know where to go if I ever want to refresh my memory. Tha_ks :icon_cool:
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MissG
No idea who pumpkin guy was.
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/mjfaceandd.jpg)
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Hi all, I'm back from a forum break... was in Thailand on a wonderful holiday and also have been unwell since I returned. Just wanted to say a HUGE thank you SARAHLI as this was a refreshing, wonderfully put together thread to come back to. I enjoyed it so much, all these wondeful whispers all safe in one place to go over again so effortlessly because of they was they are collated.
Thank you for your effort... It was just what I needed, the perfect thread to return to to get me pumped and warmed up for 5 weeks worth of catch up reading...
Here I go.. I have much work ahead of me...
Love to you x :bearhug:
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Maybe it's too early n i'm pre-coffee crabby but I wouldn't call the LMP letter a clue linked to voice's comment from April. It's from too long ago and too vaguely connected to be anything. In my opinion only of course.
Now MJonmind, your hand vein comparison is very interesting. Perhaps it needs to come with a caption explaining that the top right pic is from MJ in Blood on the Dance Floor video though because it's not quite obvious to the viewer. The vein placement is a little different, however. On CM, it is over the bones of the second n third fingers, on MJ it is over the bone of the second finger and does not extend across the third finger. But it made me do a double take. And a triple.
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and it was that pinched fold of skin on the thumb that made me do a fourth take!!!
LOL
Hiya Bec.... it took me forever, but I am back and glad to be....
:woohoo2:
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That fold of skin on MJ's hand looks like a 7.... :icon_mrgreen:
Edit: Vein..I meant vein, not fold of skin
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now adi... thats just too much. :icon_e_wink:
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Huh??
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now adi... thats just too much. :icon_e_wink:
lol......you can't see a number 7? I can.
Doesn't meant it's there for any reason, or was put there on purpose. I can just see it that's all.
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(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/mjfaceandd.jpg)
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excuse me,but.... i c murray's hand,am i crazy? r we saying:murray = mj?? :affraid: :affraid:
*LUNA*
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Nah, the thumbs are different. MJs thumb curves pretty dramatically. Murray's doesn't.
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I wonder if MJ's hand was purposely photoshopped into that Murray pic, to spur the is-MJ-Murray debate. You know, for his own amusement, lol.
But I agree bec, the thumbs look different.
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I'm adding this here because it's too much for even me (the skeptical one) to ignore.
Note from Michael to Lisa Marie to be sold by Julien's Auctions (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/index.php?topic=22675.msg406531#msg406531)
The Scratch N' Sniff comments on the Front/Back thread April 27th and now the Scrath N' Sniff note from MJ to LMP.
I have to admit - this was pretty clever of him.
Blessings
It's interesting for sure and I may be wrong but I don't see the direct connection with Front and I'm just talking here about the link with Front, I don't discard the possibility that it is Michael who sent a whisper. I just do not see it as having been sent through Front:
1. There has been a lot of time in between the two "events" so it makes it a weak connection (if it is indeed one) because it leaves room for it to be considered as a simple "coincidence". But it's not a major problem.
2. If I must find a connection with Front I only have the fact that it has been posted in the Back/Front thread. There has been no prior mention of this in any of Front's posts. Not that I know of.
If I'm wrong someone makes me "see" that I'm wrong. How does it validate Front? I don't know what to think it's strange I'm 50/50.
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@ Nick & Aussie, thanks! :beerchug:
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MissG
No idea who pumpkin guy was.
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/mjfaceandd.jpg)
Hummm ... I LIKE that!! (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/eyes.gif)
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Hi all, I'm back from a forum break... was in Thailand on a wonderful holiday and also have been unwell since I returned.
Hi Aussie! :) Welcome back! :bearhug: Hope you're OK now !
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I missed you too Aussie--your posts and personality! :D
Edit: I moved the rest about Murray & MJ to a new thread, so it's not off topic.
Sorry about that!
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Sorry to interrupt your good vibes but I find it ridiculous to keep on comparing Michel with Murray they are totally different, Murray is much taller and thicker than Michael, Michael's nails are darker than Murray's and Michael's thumb curves pretty dramatically Murray's doesn't as Bec says. :Pulling_hair:
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Sorry to interrupt your good vibes but I find it ridiculous to keep on comparing Michel with Murray they are totally different, Murray is much taller and thicker than Michael, Michael's nails are darker than Murray's and Michael's thumb curves pretty dramatically Murray's doesn't as Bec says. :Pulling_hair:
There is no need to be hysterical, :Pulling_hair: this topic was discussed in the forum time back
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Well, at least now y'all know who Front is----> (http://www.anikaos.com/0033-halloween_images/carved_pumpkins_faces/pumpkin_faces-02.png) (http://www.anikaos.com/0033-halloween_images/carved_pumpkins_faces/pumpkin_faces-02.png)
Love,
Mr. Pumpkin
xo
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So it was YOU in the courtroom ? ?
On a court service desk?
:icon_eek:
And I entertained the thought you were iPad guy.
:icon_lol:
"Señor " pumpkin
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I am sorry but I do not think Murray is Michael. There is no silicon mask to look so much like the real appearance of a human being.
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Sorry, I guess I had another relapse. :Crash: For me, I'm just waiting... for more...clues. It's all according to MJ's timing.
Carry on as usual! :)
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So "señor calabaza" is Murray?
I don´t understand the hand pics.
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No problem MJonmind for the off-topic! :LolLolLolLol: @ Everyone I may still say that it would be nice this thread really stays on the topic about Front and the connections/validations. :smiley_abuv:
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I am sorry but I do not think Murray is Michael. There is no silicon mask to look so much like the real appearance of a human being.
didn't we go down this road once already? how did it come back up ? what did i miss?
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Oh well....off-topic happens all the time. Never mind. :icon_lol:
But: Can we please back out of the MJ/Murray discussion everybody.
This particular thread might be interesting for guests and new members especially, in order to form a view on Front and his messages.
I think they should be able to read here without being distracted.
:bearhug:
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Mary, I deleted the off-topic comment, and put it on new thread. I agree this thread is important for new-comers, and to bolster our faith as well. :icon_e_biggrin:
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The Great Pumpkin!
Voiceforthesilent
Another youtube video tells about LaToya's tweet of watching Charlie Brown. And it just so happens that the initial broadcast of "It's the Great Pumpkin, Charlie Brown" aired on October 27, 1966. The pumpkin showed up in the courtroom on October 27th. Here is the video that tells about it. It's very interesting...
Michael Jackson Death Hoax - Remember everything is important (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/index.php?topic=21127.msg367342#msg367342)
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=sXoSs9wsVkA[/youtube]
According to Linus, on Halloween night, the Great Pumpkin rises out of the pumpkin patch he deems most "sincere." He then flies through the air delivering toys to all the good little children in the world. Linus believes that the Great Pumpkin is very sensitive and easily offended and will bypass anyone who denies or doubts his existence, which is why a person should never say "If the Great Pumpkin comes," but always "When the Great Pumpkin comes." In writing to the Great Pumpkin, while trying to convince him that one's pumpkin patch is sincere, one must not ask for anything specific, but rather wait and accept whatever he decides to bring.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_Pumpkin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_Pumpkin)
Doesn't that sound familiar? :icon_lol:
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but rather wait and accept whatever he decides to bring.
Well yeah, sounds familiar!
Me no likey :icon_lol:
But some things in life...well.... :icon_e_wink:
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So "señor calabaza" is Murray?
Calabasas
(http://ll-media.tmz.com/2010/12/16/1216-kj-house-launch-ex-credit.jpg)
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So "señor calabaza" is Murray?
Calabasas
(http://ll-media.tmz.com/2010/12/16/1216-kj-house-launch-ex-credit.jpg)
KJ´s ?? Katherine Jackson??? sorry i missed this!!
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So "señor calabaza" is Murray?
Calabasas
(http://ll-media.tmz.com/2010/12/16/1216-kj-house-launch-ex-credit.jpg)
KJ´s ?? Katherine Jackson??? sorry i missed this!!
The Encino house of the Jackson's family is/was under renovation so Katherine and Michael's kids temporarily moved to Calabasas, Pearl Jr said to me that Michael probably could be there too, do you remember Paris and Prince going out from the movies and Blanket going to the library in Calabasas? :icon_bounce:
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That home looks great to be "temporary".
Why are we in to Mr pumpkin head? wasn´t that a halloween story?
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Front:
Quote
If you're not a religious person…it matters not!
If you think Front is Mickey Mouse…it matters not!
If you're a religious person, have faith in God.
If you're not, then have faith in Michael.
If your faith is crumbling and you choose to leave your KNOWING (not beLIEving--- but "KNOWING"--- because, as I've stated many times before, believing & knowing are 2 different things) behind to disintegrate into dust…might as well say goodbye now because you won't make to the "other side".
For those of you losing faith, take a look "BACK" shall we?
•What is interesting here is the mention of Mickey Mouse. Some time later we received a hint from Omer who posted a Mickey Mouse watch: Official back & Front thread. And a tweet from Paris mentioning “Mouse”:
Is FRONT Omer bhatti? :WTF:
Look up omer in Wiktionary, the free dictionary.
Omer may refer to:
Omer (unit), an ancient unit of measure used in the era of the ancient Temple in Jerusalem
Counting of the Omer, Jewish ritual during the forty-nine days between Passover and the Feast of Weeks
Omar, Omer is a variation of the name
Omer (Book of Mormon), a Jaredite king
Bhati is a tribe with origins in India. They claim descent from Krishna as an avatar of Vishnu, and thus identify themselves as a Chandravanshi Kshatriya clan. The Bhati trace their history to the desert principality of Jaisalmer in Rajasthan, in the border villages of Bikaner and some tehsils of Jodhpur (Osian and Shergarh), a region known as Bhatiana. In addition, the Bhati are also found in Uttar Pradesh. They are divided into about forty gotras or clans, and share same lineage with the Manj Rajputs.[1]
Just in case anyone was curious. Love to all.
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EDIT: I tried posting the sketch of the monkey but somehow grabbed the wrong one.
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I just read an article where Paris told Oprah that one of her favorite places to go as a kid was Chuck E. Cheese. While that may be true is it possible that this monkey is a reference to her (then upcoming) interview? Just trying to connect dots...
Blessings
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Paris Jackson: ‘I was really confused’ why dad Michael Jackson made me wear a mask - NY Daily News (http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/paris-jackson-i-confused-dad-michael-jackson-made-wear-a-mask-article-1.1092107)
“He told us that when he was younger he didn’t really have a childhood,” she said. “He would always be stuck in the studio singing while the kids were out playing. He wanted us to have that.”
“Chuck E. Cheese’s and Toys R Us were our favorite places to go,” she added.
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Hi Voice! I'm not real familiar with Chuck E. Cheese characters. Is there a monkey character? I know the main character is a mouse.
EDIT: I tried posting the sketch of the monkey but somehow grabbed the wrong one.
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I just read an article where Paris told Oprah that one of her favorite places to go as a kid was Chuck E. Cheese. While that may be true is it possible that this monkey is a reference to her (then upcoming) interview? Just trying to connect dots...
Blessings
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Paris Jackson: ‘I was really confused’ why dad Michael Jackson made me wear a mask - NY Daily News (http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/paris-jackson-i-confused-dad-michael-jackson-made-wear-a-mask-article-1.1092107)
“He told us that when he was younger he didn’t really have a childhood,” she said. “He would always be stuck in the studio singing while the kids were out playing. He wanted us to have that.”
“Chuck E. Cheese’s and Toys R Us were our favorite places to go,” she added.
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Hi Voice! I'm not real familiar with Chuck E. Cheese characters. Is there a monkey character? I know the main character is a mouse.
EDIT: I tried posting the sketch of the monkey but somehow grabbed the wrong one.
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I just read an article where Paris told Oprah that one of her favorite places to go as a kid was Chuck E. Cheese. While that may be true is it possible that this monkey is a reference to her (then upcoming) interview? Just trying to connect dots...
Blessings
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Paris Jackson: ‘I was really confused’ why dad Michael Jackson made me wear a mask - NY Daily News (http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/paris-jackson-i-confused-dad-michael-jackson-made-wear-a-mask-article-1.1092107)
“He told us that when he was younger he didn’t really have a childhood,” she said. “He would always be stuck in the studio singing while the kids were out playing. He wanted us to have that.”
“Chuck E. Cheese’s and Toys R Us were our favorite places to go,” she added.
Hey B :) Silly me - you are right. Back to the drawing board.
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CHUCK E CHEESE - "Where a kid can be a kid"
Chuck E. Cheese's was founded by Nolan Bushnell (founder of Atari & Pong), in May 1977. The first Chuck E. Cheese's was located on Winchester Boulevard, in San Jose, California. The concept for Chuck E. Cheese's evolved from Mr. Bushnell's belief that there were not enough places where young people could go to play video games that had a family atmosphere.
In 1984 the parent company to Chuck E. Cheese's, Pizza Time Theatre Inc. was purchased by their direct competitor at the time Showbiz Pizza. A few years later it was decided to change the target audience to focus specifically on families with young kids. Both the Chuck E. Cheese's and ShowBiz names continued to be used until 1992, when Chuck E. Cheese's Pizza became the name for all of the restaurants.
Today, our mission is simple, bring families together in a wholesome environment for fun, games and kids. Chuck E. Cheese's consists of over 500 entertainment centers in 48 states and 6 countries.
CEC Entertainment, Inc. is headquartered in Irving, Texas, and trades on the New York Stock Exchange using the ticker symbol (CEC).
Home
About Us
About Toys"R"Us, Inc.
Toys“R”Us, Inc. is the world’s leading dedicated toy and juvenile products retailer, offering a differentiated shopping experience through its family of brands. Merchandise is sold in 875 Toys“R”Us and Babies“R”Us stores in the United States and Puerto Rico, and in more than 625 international stores and over 140 licensed stores in 35 countries and jurisdictions. In addition, it exclusively operates the legendary FAO Schwarz® brand and sells extraordinary toys in the brand’s flagship store on Fifth Avenue in New York City.
With its strong portfolio of e-commerce sites including Toysrus.com, Babiesrus.com, eToys.com, and FAO.com, Toys“R”Us, Inc. provides shoppers with a broad online selection of distinctive toys and baby products. The company also operates Toys.com, which offers customers exclusive deals from the company’s e-commerce sites.
Headquartered in Wayne, NJ, Toys“R”Us, Inc. employs approximately 70,000 employees worldwide. The company is committed to serving its communities as a caring and reputable neighbor through programs dedicated to keeping kids safe and helping them in times of need.
Toys“R”Us, Inc. operated as a public company from 1978 until July 2005. At that time, an investment group consisting of affiliates of Bain Capital Partners LLC, Kohlberg Kravis Roberts & Co. (KKR) and Vornado Realty Trust completed an acquisition of Toys“R”Us, Inc. for $6.6 billion. The acquisition encompassed all worldwide operations of Toys“R”Us, Inc., including the Toys“R”Us and Babies“R”Us businesses. With the completion of this transaction, each of the investors owns an equal stake in Toys“R”Us,
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@AlwaysHeather....great work on those two companies....definitely family oriented for sure. I know them well and grew up with them. I was thinking too, of the animals they use in their ads....a mouse and a giraffe. Michael had giraffes at Neverland.
Blessings Always
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Michael Jackson | Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/michaeljackson)
Quote of the day: "To be loved is a wonderful thing. That is the main reason I do this. I feel compelled to do it, to give people some sense of escapism, a treat to the eye and the ear. I think it's the reason I'm here."
New released tracks on youtube.."The tides will turn" ?????? MJ or not??? (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/index.php?topic=22791.0;topicseen)
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Just updated now with the last tweets from Paris (about "Frontin" & "Circus") ... because we never have enough "COI_CIDE_CES". :icon_lol:
Family/MJ Official Facebook Page -- Clues/Hints/Whispers -- validating Front (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/index.php?topic=22635.0)
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Sarahli, your link just goes to the top of this page. :fresse:
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Sarahli, your link just goes to the top of this page. :fresse:
I_deed... cha_ged. :LolLolLolLol:
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I have updated my initial post with the latest "monkey" connection: Family/MJ Official Facebook Page -- Clues/Hints/Whispers -- validating Front (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/index.php?topic=22635.msg404366#msg404366)
Love to you all.
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I have updated my initial post with the latest "monkey" connection: Family/MJ Official Facebook Page -- Clues/Hints/Whispers -- validating Front (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/index.php?topic=22635.msg404366#msg404366)
Love to you all.
Awesome Sarahli, thanks for your great job it's much appreciated :bearhug:
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I have updated my initial post with the latest "monkey" connection: Family/MJ Official Facebook Page -- Clues/Hints/Whispers -- validating Front (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/index.php?topic=22635.msg404366#msg404366)
Love to you all.
Awesome Sarahli, thanks for your great job it's much appreciated :bearhug:
Thank you Sweetsunset, you're welcome. :bearhug:
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This is one of the most interesting threads on the forum!
Thanks for updating it and compiling everything together Sarahli ! :bearhug:
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This is one of the most interesting threads on the forum!
Thanks for updating it and compiling everything together Sarahli ! :bearhug:
Thank you my dear, you're welcome. :bearhug:
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I have updated our list with Bec's new connection (Feather+Scale+Statue+Justice): Family/MJ Official Facebook Page -- Clues/Hints/Whispers -- validating Front (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/index.php?topic=22635.msg404366#msg404366)
Great job. :beerchug:
Edit: I have also added Julia's finding -- Conrad Murray's video released on 25/06/2012/--Front's post 7 days before.
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I have updated with a new connection Front/Paris: "Ice Cream"+"Monkey" -- "Chunky Monkey ice cream": Family/MJ Official Facebook Page -- Clues/Hints/Whispers -- validating Front (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/index.php?topic=22635.msg404366#msg404366)
God bless you all.
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so since the day that I re-joined here I have been non stop reading posts and trying to catch up on what I have missed since my break from the hoax world and then I saw talk of this "Front" person and I am thinking to myself "who the hell is Front?!" and "boy he/she does some great investigating!" lol Then I came across this thread and it ALL comes together and thanks to "Front" I no longer have any doubt what so ever that MJ is gone (I was always 99.9% sure he is still alive BUT there was that little part of me asking "what if?") and honestly thanks to Front I can get out of my funk and breathe again. Reading Front's posts all put together in this thread made it very clear to me, so I would like to thank Front for helping me see the light and begin to come out of this slump that I have been in since June 25, 2009. It wasn't an easy road but I believe in Michael, I always have and always will.
@Sarahli: Thank you so much for your time and effort in putting this thread together, you have made it so easy for me to recap and understand what I have missed :bearhug:
MJFam forever xoxox
- Reese
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so since the day that I re-joined here I have been non stop reading posts and trying to catch up on what I have missed since my break from the hoax world and then I saw talk of this "Front" person and I am thinking to myself "who the hell is Front?!" and "boy he/she does some great investigating!" lol Then I came across this thread and it ALL comes together and thanks to "Front" I no longer have any doubt what so ever that MJ is gone (I was always 99.9% sure he is still alive BUT there was that little part of me asking "what if?") and honestly thanks to Front I can get out of my funk and breathe again. Reading Front's posts all put together in this thread made it very clear to me, so I would like to thank Front for helping me see the light and begin to come out of this slump that I have been in since June 25, 2009. It wasn't an easy road but I believe in Michael, I always have and always will.
@Sarahli: Thank you so much for your time and effort in putting this thread together, you have made it so easy for me to recap and understand what I have missed :bearhug:
MJFam forever xoxox
- Reese
So you don't know yet that the most of us think Front could be Michael?
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@ SgtPepper, you're welcome, I'm glad it helps. :beerchug:
:penguin:
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So sgtpepper what makes u think he is gone? I mean which front posts suggest this to you?
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I updated with the last Victory connection: Family/MJ Official Facebook Page -- Clues/Hints/Whispers -- validating Front (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/index.php?topic=22635.msg404366#msg404366)
@ YougMack, I understood that SgtPepper is now 100% sure that Michael is alive. :suspect:
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ok i will give it to yall the pictures front added on him (if him) with the amsterdam shirt and his hands, well hands are defenitly MJ's, and the one with the amsterdam shirt, well skinny, pale white and fit... loox like mj
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Sarahli, not how to thank you for your work, for me I am newbie in the forum, I have trouble connecting the dots, but you did. Thanks for doing this work for us, especially me, I have not read around the forum. It has made me a happy day! :) I'll scratch head no longer :LolLolLolLol:
:bearhug:
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@YoungMack I am now 100% believing that MJ is alive thanks to Front and @Sarahli for putting this post together :)
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Yay for sgt pep :th_bravo:
Welcome to the club! Isn't it THE best feeling ever going from 'could it be.....' to 'yep, I know with every single piece of me that he is alive'
It's awesome! You know what comes next? The unbridled desire to want to tell everyone about it, LOL
Anyways, grats! I'm happy for you :icon_razz:
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@AustralianMJBeliever YES! I have told my one friend about not having any doubts now and I even showed him this very post and all he was trying to do was debunk it and say I was nuts. But IDC there is nothing now that can change my mind.. He's ALIVE. . . and he's here FOREVER ;)
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Oh yeah. Sorry forgot to add the last line of, 'now be prepared to get laughed at. Lots!
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I have updated with the "facilities" connection (Front's post + Paris' picture): http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/index.php?topic=22635.0
@ Marumjj, thank you. I'm really happy you liked it. :bearhug:
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Lundon's Bridge
Will try to announce who our director and main cast will be sometime during this coming month of Aug. Keep watching.
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Lundons-Bridge/148240935281459?ref=stream
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Lundon's Bridge
Will try to announce who our director and main cast will be sometime during this coming month of Aug. Keep watching.
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Lundons-Bridge/148240935281459?ref=stream
Hi CC, thank you for the link but I'm wondering why you posted it here as it's the thread for Front's validations and connections. Can you explain? Thanks. :icon_e_smile:
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Lundon's Bridge
Will try to announce who our director and main cast will be sometime during this coming month of Aug. Keep watching.
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Lundons-Bridge/148240935281459?ref=stream
Hi CC, thank you for the link but I'm wondering why you posted it here as it's the thread for Front's validations and connections. Can you explain? Thanks. :icon_e_smile:
Back: keep watching, front:back, lundon´s keep watching
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Lundon's Bridge
Will try to announce who our director and main cast will be sometime during this coming month of Aug. Keep watching.
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Lundons-Bridge/148240935281459?ref=stream
Hi CC, thank you for the link but I'm wondering why you posted it here as it's the thread for Front's validations and connections. Can you explain? Thanks. :icon_e_smile:
Back: keep watching, front:back, lundon´s keep watching
Oh right I didn't see it. Nice wink! :icon_e_wink: Thanks for sharing CC.
"Lundon's Bridge
Il y a environ une heure
Will try to announce who our director and main cast will be sometime during this coming month of Aug. Keep watching."
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Quote from: Front on May 19, 2012, 12:19:55 PM
hmmm……….
I get the FEELING a "circus" is underway. The stench of vulture$ ready to pounce like pitbulls on poodles is PALPABLE. I hope they enjoy it while it lasts. Those rent-a-crackerjacks will choke on the peaNUTS they're selling during their major feeding frenzy FAIL.
Sarahli, I know this Front post clearly predicts the current Jackson feud, and Paris quoted the song "Afro circus" from the movie Madagascar 3 as has been mentioned, connecting to Front’s post, but I want to point out as well, the clear connection to Men in Black 3, which was released on May 25 (6 days later). Pitbull sang the song they played at the end of the movie. Back in Time.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIDwgpBh0Aw[/youtube]
Will Smith and Tommy Lee Jones made a very huge deal about pie (pi), and finally they clearly showed a box of the old fashioned Crackerjack box right in the movie.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/d/d4/Cracker_Jack_bag.JPG/220px-Cracker_Jack_bag.JPG)
And of course we know that MJ had a small acting part in both MIB 1 and 2. Front is clearly someone who knows what's up ahead of general people, in many movies, someone in the industry--and that MJ is. Front proves he is Michael by his family, his facebook, and the industry (and more).
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Yes I agree MJonmind, the "circus" refers to the recent family "drama" and media frenzy. Definitely. I love your findings about MIB 3 (especially the crackerjack(s) :icon_lol: ) and as Michael made an appearence in this movie series it's even more relevant. Thanks.
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MJonmind - great connection. Asking an innocent question - is it possible that someone could see a trailer or preview since it was only 6 days before the movie came out? I'm just trying the process of elimination of being real vs coincidence (for which I have always believed there was none).
is it possible that BACK (or Front) is Chris Tucker?
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Quote from: Front on May 19, 2012, 12:19:55 PM
hmmm……….
I get the FEELING a "circus" is underway. The stench of vulture$ ready to pounce like pitbulls on poodles is PALPABLE. I hope they enjoy it while it lasts. Those rent-a-crackerjacks will choke on the peaNUTS they're selling during their major feeding frenzy FAIL.
Sarahli, I know this Front post clearly predicts the current Jackson feud, and Paris quoted the song "Afro circus" from the movie Madagascar 3 as has been mentioned, connecting to Front’s post, but I want to point out as well, the clear connection to Men in Black 3, which was released on May 25 (6 days later). Pitbull sang the song they played at the end of the movie. Back in Time.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIDwgpBh0Aw[/youtube]
Will Smith and Tommy Lee Jones made a very huge deal about pie (pi), and finally they clearly showed a box of the old fashioned Crackerjack box right in the movie.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/d/d4/Cracker_Jack_bag.JPG/220px-Cracker_Jack_bag.JPG)
And of course we know that MJ had a small acting part in both MIB 1 and 2. Front is clearly someone who knows what's up ahead of general people, in many movies, someone in the industry--and that MJ is. Front proves he is Michael by his family, his facebook, and the industry (and more).
Awesome connections :icon_bounce:
Will Smith and Tommy Lee Jones made a very huge deal about pie (pi), and finally they clearly showed a box of the old fashioned Crackerjack box right in the movie.
That's cool! I tried to find this "Crackerjack" scene in the MIB3 trailer, but unfortunately... I'd better watch the movie soon :icon_razz:
LOVE
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- Front posted a handwritten note mentioning "the momment of now":
(http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/2143/themommentofnowclock.png)
Official back & Front thread (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/index.php?topic=21825.msg397823#msg397823)
This clock remainds me the clock post by TS in TIAI redirect from january 1 2012.... http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,21803.0.html
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And also this clock....I don't believe anything was 'random' in TII.
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-naEQmLOWDsU/UCyNtT_EkuI/AAAAAAAAF_o/FdQPC1WAs-A/s640/MJ+2012+2009+This+is+It+clock+4+two+clocks.JPG)
With L.O.V.E. always.
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And also this clock....I don't believe anything was 'random' in TII.
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-naEQmLOWDsU/UCyNtT_EkuI/AAAAAAAAF_o/FdQPC1WAs-A/s640/MJ+2012+2009+This+is+It+clock+4+two+clocks.JPG)
With L.O.V.E. always.
I've always loved this picture and it's something that has stuck with me from TII. I see two clocks in this; one at MJ's elbow (which Orianthi seems to be pointing at) and then one just above his head.
The one near his head reads 12:20(ish)? and the one at his elbow I think reads 10:20(ish)
:icon_e_biggrin:
These "clocks" and the "fist in the ear" dialogue in TII has always intrigued me for some reason.
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BeTheChange:
And also this clock....I don't believe anything was 'random' in TII.
I don't believe that either!
.. but please explain.. where's that clock? I guess I really need to buy a pair of glasses :icon_e_geek: LOL
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Thanks for your explanation Adi :icon_e_smile: Interesting clues!
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- Front posted a handwritten note mentioning "the momment of now":
(http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/2143/themommentofnowclock.png)
Official back & Front thread (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/index.php?topic=21825.msg397823#msg397823)
This clock remainds me the clock post by TS in TIAI redirect from january 1 2012.... http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,21803.0.html
(http://etc.usf.edu/clipart/33600/33615/clock-12-21_33615_lg.gif)
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And also this clock....I don't believe anything was 'random' in TII.
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-naEQmLOWDsU/UCyNtT_EkuI/AAAAAAAAF_o/FdQPC1WAs-A/s640/MJ+2012+2009+This+is+It+clock+4+two+clocks.JPG)
With L.O.V.E. always.
I've always loved this picture and it's something that has stuck with me from TII. I see two clocks in this; one at MJ's elbow (which Orianthi seems to be pointing at) and then one just above his head.
The one near his head reads 12:20(ish)? and the one at his elbow I think reads 10:20(ish)
:icon_e_biggrin:
These "clocks" and the "fist in the ear" dialogue in TII has always intrigued me for some reason.
This is Bonnie's explanation/interpretation of the clocks:
Michael Jackson pointed to the first clock on the “This is It” rehearsals. That clock displayed the time “12:21”. That referred to December 21 of 2012. The second clock that Orianthi pointed to referred to the year with the displayed time adding up to 2012.
http://michaelsguardian.blogspot.ca/2012/08/branca-part-of-strong-delusion-michael.html (http://michaelsguardian.blogspot.ca/2012/08/branca-part-of-strong-delusion-michael.html)
And the 'fist in the year' dialogue has stuck with me also...very much so.
With L.O.V.E. always.
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stop it at roughly 42 seconds when they open the vault . i did not see it so i don't know what follows but it is interesting.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyaFEBI_L24[/youtube]
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@BTC Yep - wasn't the 911 call made at 12:21? :icon_e_wink:
....I recall the evidence during the Dr Murray trial about the 911 call being made at 12:20 and we all went into kurfuffle here on the Forum about the time......was it 12:21 as we always thought or was it 12:20 and then TS did a post on it ... lol
ahhh good times!
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@BTC Yep - wasn't the 911 call made at 12:21? :icon_e_wink:
....I recall the evidence during the Dr Murray trial about the 911 call being made at 12:20 and we all went into kurfuffle here on the Forum about the time......was it 12:21 as we always thought or was it 12:20 and then TS did a post on it ... lol
ahhh good times!
Yep, yep...great times! lol I remember the 'kurfuffle' (haha, haven't heard that word in a long time)...it was a way for people to 'attempt' to shoot TS down, while ignoring the multitude of other things TS had brought to the foreFRONT.
Here's the transcript of the 'fist in the ear' dialogue...since I don't believe anything was 'random' in TII, I find it interesting that this was included if it had no meaning/importance, when they could just have easily cut it out.
You guys, I gotta tell you this.
When I'm trying to hear and it feels like
somebody's fist is pushed into my ear,
it's really very difficult.
I know you mean well,
so, but it's...
I'm trying to adjust to the ear,
the inner ears, okay?
With the love,
with the love. L-O-V-E.
ORTEGA: Michael.
Michael: This is not easy though.
ORTEGA: Michael, one more
time. I couldn't hear you, sir.
Michael: The inner ears are very difficult
for me when you're raised
to use just your real own,
you know, aural... Auditory ears.
Now it feels like somebody's fist,
just their fist, is shoved into your ear.
ORTEGA: Okay.
Michael: I'm trying to hear and I can't.
So I'm adjusting
to the situation.
ORTEGA: Right. Michael, is there
anything they can give you now
in your ears to make it better
in terms of volume or mix?
Michael: Um...
If we could just
bring it down a little bit.
ORTEGA:
Bring it down a little bit, please.
Anything else, Michael? You
wanna hear more of anything?
You wanna hear more voice,
you wanna hear more...?
Michael: No.
ORTEGA: Okay, Michael,
after the next song, if it hasn't adjusted
to your liking, will you please let us know?
Michael: For sure.
ORTEGA: Thank you.
Would you like to
pick it up from?
"Stop! The Love You Save."
ORTEGA: "Stop! The Love You Save."
With L.O.V.E. always.
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BTC.......
:icon_eek:
I have seen that TII section a thousand times....OK, maybe a couple hundred, lol.....but I had never seen that clock!
You are talking about the blue-ish color one in back of MJ right? Just :icon_eek: !!!!!!!!!!!!!
I absolutely think every second of TII was planned and calculated with extreme precision...amazingly so.
I had the random thought today of how much Michael loved technology, electronics etc......knew his way around it all.
Then I was thinking how much Michael would enjoy using all this tech stuff to further the field of entertainment and
bring an important message to people. To my knowledge, the world hadn't seen much of Michael actually embracing
the newest tech stuff, or social media etc. (his website people did for sure....but he himself)
If anyone was going use all the advancements in tech, it would be Michael. Remember the video of him "online" for one the first chats.....he seemed to love that. I could totally see his mind working on overload with ideas of how to truly make it something great.
All the social media, all the "real time" news for the world, all the YouTube, blogging, forums etc.....all combined to pioneer how we are entertained and how we learn. His message has always been clear....at the forefront of it all. His goal.....to be the best. I am absolutely convinced he is.......
the greatest entertainer the world has ever known. It's an adventure, with a clear message of LOVE.
Michael...wherever you......you're amazing! Thank you.
Thanks for posting about the clock stuff.....I am once again reminded of just how detailed and amazing this hoax is!
Blessings to you all....
LOVE
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BTC.......
:icon_eek:
I have seen that TII section a thousand times....OK, maybe a couple hundred, lol.....but I had never seen that clock!
You are talking about the blue-ish color one in back of MJ right? Just :icon_eek: !!!!!!!!!!!!!
I absolutely think every second of TII was planned and calculated with extreme precision...amazingly so.
I had the random thought today of how much Michael loved technology, electronics etc......knew his way around it all.
Then I was thinking how much Michael would enjoy using all this tech stuff to further the field of entertainment and
bring an important message to people. To my knowledge, the world hadn't seen much of Michael actually embracing
the newest tech stuff, or social media etc. (his website people did for sure....but he himself)
If anyone was going use all the advancements in tech, it would be Michael. Remember the video of him "online" for one the first chats.....he seemed to love that. I could totally see his mind working on overload with ideas of how to truly make it something great.
All the social media, all the "real time" news for the world, all the YouTube, blogging, forums etc.....all combined to pioneer how we are entertained and how we learn. His message has always been clear....at the forefront of it all. His goal.....to be the best. I am absolutely convinced he is.......
the greatest entertainer the world has ever known. It's an adventure, with a clear message of LOVE.
Michael...wherever you......you're amazing! Thank you.
Thanks for posting about the clock stuff.....I am once again reminded of just how detailed and amazing this hoax is!
Blessings to you all....
LOVE
Me too - I agree with Wishingstar - that movie has no mistakes, everything is down to detail. I don't remember those clocks either. Amazing to me. So we're back to 12/21/2012? Or maybe the time of departure was 12:21 and the time of arrival will be 10:20? Don't know - just putting it out there. Either way, I wonder why it's been so quiet lately? Or is it just me.
Or - didn't Murray's office assistants in Dallas go to the wearhouse around 10 that morning or was it a phone call that Murray made around that time. Ok - time to go searching.
Blessings :)
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LOL, Front posting a pic of his fist in his ear would be pretty funny right now! Go on Front, I dare you!
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And also this clock....I don't believe anything was 'random' in TII.
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-naEQmLOWDsU/UCyNtT_EkuI/AAAAAAAAF_o/FdQPC1WAs-A/s640/MJ+2012+2009+This+is+It+clock+4+two+clocks.JPG)
With L.O.V.E. always.
I've always loved this picture and it's something that has stuck with me from TII. I see two clocks in this; one at MJ's elbow (which Orianthi seems to be pointing at) and then one just above his head.
The one near his head reads 12:20(ish)? and the one at his elbow I think reads 10:20(ish)
:icon_e_biggrin:
These "clocks" and the "fist in the ear" dialogue in TII has always intrigued me for some reason.
I read that too ! I 'had never seen these clocks :icon_eek: , but I watch "this is it" full of time ! ;)
Thanks BTC and Adi !! :)
Sorry for my BAD english.. :icon_albino:
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LOL, Front posting a pic of his fist in his ear would be pretty funny right now! Go on Front, I dare you!
:) :)
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If I'm remembering this correctly, Bonnie stated on her blog that the initial clip of TII that was shown repeatedly all over the news after his 'death' of TDCAU had the clocks, as seen in the pic I posted. But that in the released movie, after it was edited, the clocks are not there. I'll have to double check that because I may be mistaken in what she wrote...but, if true, it would explain why many of us don't remember seeing them in the movie and it sure would make the clocks even more interesting.
@curls...LOL, that would be great!
Edit: I did a quick search of Bonnie's blog and couldn't find where she may have said about the 'edited' clocks (so I may not have remembered that correctly at all). I then threw TII on (any excuse to watch it for the 10000000th time lol) and the 'clocks' ARE there in TDCAU...except they aren't clocks at all, or shouldn't be clocks since there are no clocks anywhere on that stage (from what I can see). They appear to be blue lights that just so happen to have white lights reflecting off them...that just so happen to look like the hands of clocks, that just so happen to point to 12:20ish and 10:20ish :icon_e_confused:
With L.O.V.E. always.
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If I'm remembering this correctly, Bonnie stated on her blog that the initial clip of TII that was shown repeatedly all over the news after his 'death' of TDCAU had the clocks, as seen in the pic I posted. But that in the released movie, after it was edited, the clocks are not there. I'll have to double check that because I may be mistaken in what she wrote...but, if true, it would explain why many of us don't remember seeing them in the movie and it sure would make the clocks even more interesting.
@curls...LOL, that would be great!
Edit: I did a quick search of Bonnie's blog and couldn't find where she may have said about the 'edited' clocks (so I may not have remembered that correctly at all). I then threw TII on (any excuse to watch it for the 10000000th time lol) and the 'clocks' ARE there in TDCAU...except they aren't clocks at all, or shouldn't be clocks since there are no clocks anywhere on that stage (from what I can see). They appear to be blue lights that just so happen to have white lights reflecting off them...that just so happen to look like the hands of clocks, that just so happen to point to 12:20ish and 10:20ish :icon_e_confused:
With L.O.V.E. always.
BRILLIANT! Reflection on Reflections! :th_bravo:
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Me too never seen these clocks..... :icon_rolleyes: time of Bam? :michael-jackson: :icon_razz:
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Thanks for finding that BTC, it's not the first time we/others have been over-hoaxed. You win some, you lose some.
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If I'm remembering this correctly, Bonnie stated on her blog that the initial clip of TII that was shown repeatedly all over the news after his 'death' of TDCAU had the clocks, as seen in the pic I posted. But that in the released movie, after it was edited, the clocks are not there. I'll have to double check that because I may be mistaken in what she wrote...but, if true, it would explain why many of us don't remember seeing them in the movie and it sure would make the clocks even more interesting.
@curls...LOL, that would be great!
Edit: I did a quick search of Bonnie's blog and couldn't find where she may have said about the 'edited' clocks (so I may not have remembered that correctly at all). I then threw TII on (any excuse to watch it for the 10000000th time lol) and the 'clocks' ARE there in TDCAU...except they aren't clocks at all, or shouldn't be clocks since there are no clocks anywhere on that stage (from what I can see). They appear to be blue lights that just so happen to have white lights reflecting off them...that just so happen to look like the hands of clocks, that just so happen to point to 12:20ish and 10:20ish :icon_e_confused:
With L.O.V.E. always.
I agree, that there are clocks, rather light effects (optical illusion), but just wow! are there, I just saw the movie and if I see them clearly in 12.20 and 10.20 :bearhug:
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If I'm remembering this correctly, Bonnie stated on her blog that the initial clip of TII that was shown repeatedly all over the news after his 'death' of TDCAU had the clocks, as seen in the pic I posted. But that in the released movie, after it was edited, the clocks are not there. I'll have to double check that because I may be mistaken in what she wrote...but, if true, it would explain why many of us don't remember seeing them in the movie and it sure would make the clocks even more interesting.
@curls...LOL, that would be great!
Edit: I did a quick search of Bonnie's blog and couldn't find where she may have said about the 'edited' clocks (so I may not have remembered that correctly at all). I then threw TII on (any excuse to watch it for the 10000000th time lol) and the 'clocks' ARE there in TDCAU...except they aren't clocks at all, or shouldn't be clocks since there are no clocks anywhere on that stage (from what I can see). They appear to be blue lights that just so happen to have white lights reflecting off them...that just so happen to look like the hands of clocks, that just so happen to point to 12:20ish and 10:20ish :icon_e_confused:
With L.O.V.E. always.
I agree, that there are clocks, rather light effects (optical illusion), but just wow! are there, I just saw the movie and if I see them clearly in 12.20 and 10.20 :bearhug:
This is great :) Whether the time was made by a clock or an optical illusion (even better) they are there for a reason. I think we know what 12:21 stands for. So - 10:20 must also have a significant purpose. Here is a few I found:
Prosecutors say that Murray made a slew of phone calls between 10:20 and 11:51 a.m. that morning. Dr. Conrad Murray is believed to have discovered pop star Michael Jackson unconscious at about 11:56 a.m. on June 25, 2009, but he did not tell anyone to call 911 until 12:20 p.m., prosecutor David Walgren told jurors in Murray's involuntary manslaughter trial Tuesday.
http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2011/09/27/prosecutor-michael-jacksons-doctor-conrad-murray-repeatedly-acted-with-gross-negligence/
TMZ Live -- Dr. Conrad Murray ... Hanging by a Thread. 10/20/2011 11:30 AM PDT BY TMZ STAFF. TMZ Live ...
http://www.tmz.com/2011/10/20/tmz-live-lindsay-lohan-morgue-probation-dr-conrad-murray/
Still searching...but I think the phone calls are a significant part of this somehow.
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I still find this clock "discovery" so very interesting : ) Love it.
I had to go looking as well....sure enough, no matter how many videos I see, it's there, plain as day.
I was always curious about why TDRCAU was the video snippet the media most played in the very beginning.
Many people had never even heard that song. I would have thought Thriller, Billie Jean, Beat It....all the very
classic MJ songs would have been the video to first show. In some sense, showing the song
They Don't Really Care About Us, is so poetic for the event. We have discussed the meanings behind that song
....about race, about police force, about government etc.....many parallels come through with this song. Now,
I am seeing another one.......the media and its relation/reporting on famous people. True, we have probably covered
that thought as well. However, to see this so boldly on the screen makes me clearly think how much the media
missed.......they ran with the story of Michael Jackson's death of drugs etc. They never stopped to clearly see things were not
adding up.....because it was the story of the decade. They [the media] don't really care about the entertainers. The media
will spew un-truths forever if it will sell. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to notice the backwards ambulance, the trash,
the messed up words at the memorial, the stage setting of the funeral, the family's reactions, the mis-information on the
various reports etc, etc. etc. They don't care if things are wrong...they report it.
So, all in all, I'd say here's yet another classic subtle clue as to something larger than the passing of a legend.......the passing
through of a legend. Michael passed through death in front of the world.......and nobody questioned it. I'd say it was the
greatest illusion ever. Wait, didn't LaToya try to tell us that, lol.
Thanks again BTC for posting about this.......it's so timely (ok crap joke for sure......)
Love & Blessings Always
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Is anybody please able to post that video where the 2 clocks are showed up?
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Is anybody please able to post that video where the 2 clocks are showed up?
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THQDBQpZ9AM[/youtube]
Around 0:30
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Oh and I just noticed while watching the vid again that Orianthi starts to point at the "clock" when the line "what will go down in history..." starts :michael_jackson-1135:
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Is anybody please able to post that video where the 2 clocks are showed up?
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THQDBQpZ9AM[/youtube]
Around 0:30
Wow thank you Mary, at the moment of the pointing finger it's said something like : "....in history as the greatest demonstration for freedom in the history of our name?" (that's what I understand sorry), so after June 25th 2009 Michael was hypothetically set free :bowdown:
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Sweetsunset it´s
Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.'s "I Have a Dream" Speech, Aug. 28, 1963
I am happy to join with you today in what will go down in history as the greatest demonstration for freedom in the history of our nation.
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Oh and I just noticed while watching the vid again that Orianthi starts to point at the "clock" when the line "what will go down in history..." starts :michael_jackson-1135:
If MJ really died this would be too creepy...therefore he is not dead.
I hadn't noticed this before :icon_e_surprised: How does 10:20 add up to 2012? or maybe it's 22:21 ...it adds up to 7. time of return?
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/clock.jpg)
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Sweetsunset it´s
Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.'s "I Have a Dream" Speech, Aug. 28, 1963
I am happy to join with you today in what will go down in history as the greatest demonstration for freedom in the history of our nation.
That's why Martin Luther King is one of the seven showed at the beginning of TII together with Lady Di, Gilda, Berlin wall fell and Olympic Games, etc..
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I just remembered, the 2005 trial verdict ended at 10:18... released around 10:20 am.
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/not.jpg)
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And this is the video that " someone " choose to be seen through CNN throughout the world.
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I just remembered, the 2005 trial verdict ended at 10:18... released around 10:20 am.
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/not.jpg)
Mindseye - I liked your comment. "IF" MJ were dead it would be really creepy. Therefore he is not dead.
I totally agree.
Thanks also for making the connection to the 2005 trial, long a belief of mine that it plays a role in this hoax. So Dr Murray "starting" to make phone calls (10:20am) is a link to the trial time.
I am really happy to see this come up. I've been wondering if we've discussed everything there is to discuss and if we've found all there is to find in relation to the hoax.
Blessings
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Oh and I just noticed while watching the vid again that Orianthi starts to point at the "clock" when the line "what will go down in history..." starts :michael_jackson-1135:
I thought it was more michael pointed up to the 12:20ish clock when it said about the greatest demonstration of freedom...
at the end of Jam, when the dances look up to the ceiling.. the shadows on their jaw lines are creepy because they look like arrorws pointing up and Michael is pointing either at the angle that would be 10 or 11... some of the shadows look like stick men but that could be just what made out like people do with clouds
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Hmmm...could the 10:20, stand for October 20th, because I just found out that the Immortal Tour ends it's run at the O2 arena in London on October 20th???!! Maybe that is where he will BAM?
http://www.partyearth.com/london/shows/michael-jackson-the-immortal-world-tour-4-1/
(http://www.partyearth.com/london/shows/michael-jackson-the-immortal-world-tour-4-1/)
lol I also found this video about October 20th 2012 in Indiana, where the dead are suppose to come alive!! :LolLolLolLol:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xb5fv2G0mII&feature=channel&list=UL[/youtube]
I send you all, lots and lots of LOVE!!! :bearhug:
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October 20th - I'll take it :) wouldn't it be something if it ended at the 02 where it started? Maybe it's just another meaning as it seems like MJ has multiple meanings for the clues.
I just noticed another place that we saw the 10:20. It was on the Neverland clock either the first or second year. I remembered when I saw this video (it's at 4:36)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiuET1wNG9I&feature=youtu.be
Blessings
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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBTh07NM3bs[/youtube]
http://www.ticketfly.com/event/155957/
would this be for that?
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Paris posted this picture on Twitter
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/pariskpk.jpg)
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Yeah - that is cool Paris posted that picture.
Those "clocks" in TII, which are meant to be passed off as blue lights, and the reflection in them resembling clock hands pointing to 12:20 and 10:20 are not coincidental......love it.
Also as pointed out, we can see Orianthi point at the one at MJ's elbow and MJ kind of moves aside to make sure it is in view of the camera, but the dancer (is that Shannon?) he also points towards the one up near MJ's head.
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:thjajaja121: All these clues are flying in now I can hardly keep abreast of them. Bam, bam, bam. Thanks Michael. This is gonna be a great movie, a really great adventure.
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you guys are amazing in finding little whispers from MJ! I love it! firts we had Back who talked/writed about time often, then Front with his pictures, writings about time, too...and Paris posted on her Twitter watch/clock picture...there is no room for coincidence anymore! :icon_lol: :icon_e_wink:
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Hmmm...could the 10:20, stand for October 20th, because I just found out that the Immortal Tour ends it's run at the O2 arena in London on October 20th???!! Maybe that is where he will BAM?
http://www.partyearth.com/london/shows/michael-jackson-the-immortal-world-tour-4-1/
(http://www.partyearth.com/london/shows/michael-jackson-the-immortal-world-tour-4-1/)
lol I also found this video about October 20th 2012 in Indiana, where the dead are suppose to come alive!! :LolLolLolLol:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xb5fv2G0mII&feature=channel&list=UL[/youtube]
I send you all, lots and lots of LOVE!!! :bearhug:
lol I also found this video about October 20th 2012 in Indiana, where the dead are suppose to come alive!! :LolLolLolLol:
:icon_eek: :affraid:
Thanks for the schedule MJJ4ever. I noticed that on October 20th the last Immortal show opens at 8.00 pm, instead of 6.30 pm, and let's say the show will start at 8.30 and will end around 11.30...close to midnight ... I'll pay attention closely :icon_e_biggrin:
LOVE
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Uhm.. I was wrong, I remember that a show was added on Sunday 21th. http://www.theo2.co.uk/event/michael-jackson-the-immortal-world-tour-20121012.html
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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBTh07NM3bs[/youtube]
http://www.ticketfly.com/event/155957/
would this be for that?
YES!! Crazy huh??? More "coincidences"! :animal0017: Indiana, Thriller dead coming to life...Michael you sure have the most creative mind this world has ever, and will ever, know! I bow to your Genius Brother!! :bowdown:...I LOVE you so...LOVE to you and your Brohers Paris!! :bearhug: Blessings to you all!
The first thing that came to my mind when I saw the pictures that Paris posted, was that these are objects used to hypnotize people!! :affraid: :LolLolLolLol:
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Uhm.. I was wrong, I remember that a show was added on Sunday 21th. http://www.theo2.co.uk/event/michael-jackson-the-immortal-world-tour-20121012.html
Hmmm...well that shoots that theory to sh*t ! :LolLolLolLol: Maybe Michael read my post and quickly added 1 day for "simmering".. :thjajaja121:
No worries, though, Michael will come back when he is ready, and only Michael knows when that may be...I am perfectly fine with that!
Sending you LOVE Ever!!! :bearhug:
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Uhm.. I was wrong, I remember that a show was added on Sunday 21th. http://www.theo2.co.uk/event/michael-jackson-the-immortal-world-tour-20121012.html
Hmmm...well that shoots that theory to sh*t ! :LolLolLolLol: Maybe Michael read my post and quickly added 1 day for "simmering".. :thjajaja121:
:LolLolLolLol: hmm.. or Michael added that "simmering day" is to confuse us a little :icon_e_wink:
No worries, though, Michael will come back when he is ready, and only Michael knows when that may be...I am perfectly fine with that!
I'm with you on that.
:bearhug: & LOVE back at you!
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you guys are amazing in finding little whispers from MJ! I love it! firts we had Back who talked/writed about time often, then Front with his pictures, writings about time, too...and Paris posted on her Twitter watch/clock picture...there is no room for coincidence anymore! :icon_lol: :icon_e_wink:
:woohoo2: :moonwalk_: :icon_e_wink:
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OMG Michael God bless you!! :multiplespotting: PARTY PARTY!!
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It's a loud whisper from Paris i_deed. I have updated my initial post with this Time connection. :icon_e_wink:
http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,22635.msg404366.html#msg404366
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It's a loud whisper from Paris i_deed. I have updated my initial post with this Time connection. :icon_e_wink:
http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,22635.msg404366.html#msg404366
:th_bravo:
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Thanks Sarahli. You do a mighty fine job. :smiley_abuv:
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Thanks Sarahli. You do a mighty fine job. :smiley_abuv:
:beerchug:
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Thanks Sarahli :th_bravo:
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Is anybody please able to post that video where the 2 clocks are showed up?
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THQDBQpZ9AM[/youtube]
Around 0:30
It seems to me that the clock is pointing to around 12.20 or there abouts never noticed that before, how interesting :icon_eek: :ghsdf:
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@Sarahli...thanks for your continued hard work and tIME in keeping all this together in one thread....I visit it often whenever I need a 'light' :icon_razz:
The first round will be on me at the BAM party :beerchug:
:icon_e_biggrin:
With L.O.V.E. always.
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Ooooh thank you everyone! ;)
Can’t wait for that BTC, I order a fresh orange juice! :LolLolLolLol:
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LOL......
BTC, better watch what you say.....going to be a BIG order of drinks!!!!
You know what I'm having.......I'll bring my own nuts (oh, that sounded bad, sorry) :fresse:
:penguin:
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:thjajaja121:
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LOL......
BTC, better watch what you say.....going to be a BIG order of drinks!!!!
You know what I'm having.......I'll bring my own nuts (oh, that sounded bad, sorry) :fresse:
:penguin:
:LolLolLolLol:
Filberts? :icon_lol:
With L.O.V.E. always.
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I read most of this thread before my absence, but seriously just have to say, re-reading it again, it has to be one of my favorites on the whole forum. Doubters need to be reading / seeing this shizz :-)
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I read most of this thread before my absence, but seriously just have to say, re-reading it again, it has to be one of my favorites on the whole forum. Doubters need to be reading / seeing this shizz :-)
yes! it is my favourite thread too! but doubts r still here.... :smiley-vault-misc-150:
*LUNA*
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I hadn't noticed this before :icon_e_surprised: How does 10:20 add up to 2012? or maybe it's 22:21
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/clock.jpg)
mhhh... i can c 11:20 (i'm talking about the 1st blue clock) :icon_rolleyes:
*LUNA*
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I have updated with the last missing N and Sesame Street connection: http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,22635.msg404366.html#msg404366
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Wow Sarahli thank you very much for your great work, it's really appreciated!! :icon_razz:
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Good job Sarahli :moonwalk_:
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Wow you don't really realize ALL the "coincidences" between the family/the estate and Front until you scroll through this thread for 30 minutes straight seeing evidence after evidence of Front's authenticity! Although I was aware of almost everyone of them, I didn't realize how many there actually were... how exciting :icon_e_biggrin:
Thank you Sarahli!! :bearhug:
P.S. Do we have a validating TS thread?
Here is a great tweet from Donte, posted the other day on his twitter:
"@Donte_Jackson
Simply put: may The Source be with you."
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Thanks very much Sweetsunset, Paula & Katy. :bearhug:
Katy, no there isn't any thread validating TS but I don't think it's necessary as it's been a longer time TS has been posting in the forum and giving valuable information about the hoax. He got many validations with his predictions for example, via whispers from TMZ as well, and more recently direct contact with his buddy Front. :icon_lol: I think it would be a huge job to find all the connections now so if anyone reading this doubts, I suggest they read TS' posts. I know that is very long :icon_lol: but it is worth it.
On this thread though page 5 you will find 2 posts about TS & Front from MJonmind and myself, please scroll down to find them: http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,22635.100.html
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Thanks Sarahli! one day when all this adventure will end, we will be happy to have all clues and whispers from Front and family in one place, ready to re-reading again! :)
have a nice day! :icon_razz:
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I hadn't noticed this before :icon_e_surprised: How does 10:20 add up to 2012? or maybe it's 22:21
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/clock.jpg)
mhhh... i can c 11:20 (i'm talking about the 1st blue clock) :icon_rolleyes:
*LUNA*
@LUNA Don't you mean 12:20?! the small clock pointer stands on 12 not 11.
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Thanks Sarahli! one day when all this adventure will end, we will be happy to have all clues and whispers from Front and family in one place, ready to re-reading again! :)
have a nice day! :icon_razz:
I guess we're gonna miss the good old times :-\
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Thanks Sarahli! one day when all this adventure will end, we will be happy to have all clues and whispers from Front and family in one place, ready to re-reading again! :)
have a nice day! :icon_razz:
I guess we're gonna miss the good old times :-\
Emulik, thank you. I hope so that we'll look "back" again here. :icon_e_wink:
Diggy, the end always gives way to a _EW beginning. I do not see the end of the hoax as the end of the journey/adventure. :bearhug:
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Thanks Sarahli! one day when all this adventure will end, we will be happy to have all clues and whispers from Front and family in one place, ready to re-reading again! :)
have a nice day! :icon_razz:
I guess we're gonna miss the good old times :-\
Emulik, thank you. I hope so that we'll look "back" again here. :icon_e_wink:
Diggy, the end always gives way to a _EW beginning. I do not see the end of the hoax as the end of the journey/adventure. :bearhug:
I always thought that the hoax ends when Michael comes back. There won't be any strange things to investigate, the won't be any shout outs from Mr. Front, there won't be any TMZ baloney :LolLolLolLol:. Won't you miss all this? :icon_neutral:
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Thanks Sarahli! one day when all this adventure will end, we will be happy to have all clues and whispers from Front and family in one place, ready to re-reading again! :)
have a nice day! :icon_razz:
I guess we're gonna miss the good old times :-\
Emulik, thank you. I hope so that we'll look "back" again here. :icon_e_wink:
Diggy, the end always gives way to a _EW beginning. I do not see the end of the hoax as the end of the journey/adventure. :bearhug:
I always thought that the hoax ends when Michael comes back. There won't be any strange things to investigate, the won't be any shout outs from Mr. Front, there won't be any TMZ baloney :LolLolLolLol:. Won't you miss all this? :icon_neutral:
Yes I'll certainly miss this part but we have to move forward as it can't last forever this way. And who knows we may have shout-outs from Michael without the "Front" mask! :icon_lol: My heart also needs an ending or "closure", a happy one, a Victory for Michael, and I know that it's never really over even if different. We will forever be the beLIEvers, this adventure is now a part of us, it's imprinted in our hearts with us wherever we go, we will always be part of the army of L.O.V.E who supported and will continue to support Michael. :icon_e_smile:
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Thanks Sarahli! one day when all this adventure will end, we will be happy to have all clues and whispers from Front and family in one place, ready to re-reading again! :)
have a nice day! :icon_razz:
I guess we're gonna miss the good old times :-\
Emulik, thank you. I hope so that we'll look "back" again here. :icon_e_wink:
Diggy, the end always gives way to a _EW beginning. I do not see the end of the hoax as the end of the journey/adventure. :bearhug:
I always thought that the hoax ends when Michael comes back. There won't be any strange things to investigate, the won't be any shout outs from Mr. Front, there won't be any TMZ baloney :LolLolLolLol:. Won't you miss all this? :icon_neutral:
Yes I'll certainly miss this part but we have to move forward as it can't last forever this way. And who knows we may have shout-outs from Michael without the "Front" mask! :icon_lol: My heart also needs an ending or "closure", a happy one, a Victory for Michael, and I know that it's never really over even if different. We will forever be the beLIEvers, this adventure is now a part of us, it's imprinted in our hearts with us wherever we go, we will always be part of the army of L.O.V.E who supported and will continue to support Michael. :icon_e_smile:
Well, I must admit that you have convinced me! :th_bravo:
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Thanks Sarahli! one day when all this adventure will end, we will be happy to have all clues and whispers from Front and family in one place, ready to re-reading again! :)
have a nice day! :icon_razz:
I guess we're gonna miss the good old times :-\
Emulik, thank you. I hope so that we'll look "back" again here. :icon_e_wink:
Diggy, the end always gives way to a _EW beginning. I do not see the end of the hoax as the end of the journey/adventure. :bearhug:
I always thought that the hoax ends when Michael comes back. There won't be any strange things to investigate, the won't be any shout outs from Mr. Front, there won't be any TMZ baloney :LolLolLolLol:. Won't you miss all this? :icon_neutral:
yes, I will miss our secret phenomenal conversations here with Front and all of you! but on the other hand I can not wait to the day when the whole world will hear real truth from Michaels mouth! :icon_razz:
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Thanks Sarahli! one day when all this adventure will end, we will be happy to have all clues and whispers from Front and family in one place, ready to re-reading again! :)
have a nice day! :icon_razz:
I guess we're gonna miss the good old times :-\
Emulik, thank you. I hope so that we'll look "back" again here. :icon_e_wink:
Diggy, the end always gives way to a _EW beginning. I do not see the end of the hoax as the end of the journey/adventure. :bearhug:
I always thought that the hoax ends when Michael comes back. There won't be any strange things to investigate, the won't be any shout outs from Mr. Front, there won't be any TMZ baloney :LolLolLolLol:. Won't you miss all this? :icon_neutral:
Yes I'll certainly miss this part but we have to move forward as it can't last forever this way. And who knows we may have shout-outs from Michael without the "Front" mask! :icon_lol: My heart also needs an ending or "closure", a happy one, a Victory for Michael, and I know that it's never really over even if different. We will forever be the beLIEvers, this adventure is now a part of us, it's imprinted in our hearts with us wherever we go, we will always be part of the army of L.O.V.E who supported and will continue to support Michael. :icon_e_smile:
very well said Sarahli! :bearhug:
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I have added this section to my intial post:
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"N" highlight:
- To continue with our "N" saga I'm adding a picture posted by Jaafar Jackson on his webstagram: clearly the letter "N" is the one highLIGHTED; z x c v b N :icon_cool:
(http://distilleryimage8.s3.amazonaws.com/b37d3328314511e2ac9b22000a1fb864_7.jpg)
http://web.stagram.com/p/327143960545884464_28479125
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That's amazi_g!!
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Thanks for sharing that picture from Jafaar - IMO if anyone says that picture is a coincidence then nothing will convince them that Michael is alive.
Can't wait for the documentary tomorrow - planning my whole day around it.
Blessings!
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I just read page one of this thread for the first time tonight, WOW, very good Sarahli!!
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You are welcome. :icon_e_smile:
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I just read page one of this thread for the first time tonight, WOW, very good Sarahli!!
yeah, this is def my favorite thread (aside TIAI and Front/back) Said it before, but doesn't hurt to say again, "Top job Sarahli - Kudos"
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I just read page one of this thread for the first time tonight, WOW, very good Sarahli!!
yeah, this is def my favorite thread (aside TIAI and Front/back) Said it before, but doesn't hurt to say again, "Top job Sarahli - Kudos"
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Oooh thanks so much. :bearhug:
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I just read page one of this thread for the first time tonight, WOW, very good Sarahli!!
yeah, this is def my favorite thread (aside TIAI and Front/back) Said it before, but doesn't hurt to say again, "Top job Sarahli - Kudos"
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Oooh thanks so much. :bearhug:
+ 1 (http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Content/1035971793_gif.gif)
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Thank you Blankie. :icon_e_smile:
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Thank you ShyBleu, this had already been noticed but it's a very good reminder.
Especially because, checkmAtE----> is on the BRink
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Thank you ShyBleu, this had already been noticed but it's a very good reminder.
Especially because, checkmAtE----> is on the BRink
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ooh, i'm sorry...but thank you for saying Sarahli....
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Thank you Blankie. :icon_e_smile:
L.O.V.E. you :bearhug:
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I have updated with this section:
I shall call it the Joy/Happiness/Togetherness connection:
I don't want we forget all the times Front posted and made us happy just because of that lol
http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,5167.msg432573.html#msg432573
- Shortly after, Front posted:
I suggest we not get our undies/drawers/thongs/boxers -- whatever you call them -- into a twist...unless you want to be that perpetual pretzel forever lost & floating in outerspace, grasping at every twinkling star while you're drifting through the dark, trying to untether that wedgie…..speaking OF…perhaps we should give Michael a little SPACE --- outside of the inflated balloon!, which seems to have PRESSurized as of late.
Now, before anyone jumps on the "we've-been-patient-for-3-plus-years" bandwagon and "you don't understand" la la la….."you haven't been here the whooooole timE" etc etc etc…..oh, really! MAY I suggest that you take a look back and READ my posts. I can honestly say, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that I would give any one of you here the shirt off my back if cold…the food off my plate if hungry…the water in my glass until your cup runneth over. I care deeply about each & every 1 of you. Yes, YOU. I have tried to offer comforting words--and not JUST words but words of TRUTH…..and attempted to do my best to shed a little light in times of darkness. MOST of which were accepted and appreciated. And this is NOT a horn-tooter by any means…point being: like I have stated previously, the support and appreciation goes BOTH ways. Do you think MJ doesn't appreciate the love & support here ---- even from those who seem like they are ready to bite his head off and spit him out if he doesn't BAM by THEIR deadline? Hmmm, yea I would dare to say with CERTAINTY!…I_DEED he does.
Front has never never--never ONCE!!--asked anyone to believe his words based on his words alone. And that REMAINs the case. Evidence speaks for itself----> http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,22635.0.html I would only ASK…..that you all be kind to each other while "sitting in the waiting room". Silence is not cause for alarm. No need to be frantically looking for that red EXIT sign above the door.
Remember: MJ is quite good at transforming into the Master Of Illusion. The words and events that shall unfold in tHIS story "book" are no different---since they were written by him. Did you know that MJ likes word games? Yes, of course you did. So---beyond the twists and turns of the (seemingly) shapeshifting "plot", open your eyes (and mind) a little more…..and WAIT for the next epoch before closing the book…..
Don'T take mere words at face value.
http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,5167.msg432585.html#msg432585
- Finally the very next day, the official MJ Facebook posted the lyrics of "I'll Be There":
(http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/2917/llbethere.jpg)
- Very meaningful lyrics about joy cementing the dots together! :icon_e_wink:
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Sarahli, I love your 'Joy/Happiness/Togetherness connection'!
Very meaningful lyrics about joy cementing the dots together!
Absolutely :bowdown:
as well as unity, strong love and faith
"You and I must make a pact
We must bring salvation back,
Where there is love, I'll be there. (I'll be there)
I'll reach out my hand to you
I'll have faith in all you do.
Just call my name and I'll be there. (I'll be there)
I'll be there to comfort you,
Build my world of dreams around you,
I'm so glad that I found you.
I'll be there with a love that's strong,
I'll be your strength,
I'll keep holdin' on. (holdin' on)
Yes I will
Let me fill your heart with joy and laughter,
Togetherness, girl, is all I'm after,
Whenever you need me, I'll be there. (I'll be there)
I'll be there to protect you, (yeah baby)
With unselfish love that respects you.
Just call my name, I'll be there. (I'll be there)
I'll be there to comfort you,
Build my world of dreams around you,
I'm so glad that I found you.
I'll be there with a love that's strong,
I'll be your strength,
I'll keep holdin' on.
Oh oh oh
Yes I will (holdin' on, holdin' on)
Yes I will
If you should ever find someone new
I know he better be good to you
Cause if he doesn't
Ill be there (ill be there)
Don't you know baby I'll be there
I'll be there I'll be there
Just call my name, I'll be there (I'll be there)
Just look over your shoulders honey! Oh!
I'll be there, I'll be there,
Whenever you need me, I'll be there (I'll be there)
Don't you know baby,
I'll be there, I'll be there
Just call my name, I'll be there (I'll be there)
Oh oh oh oh I'll be there, I'll be there"~Michael Jackson
LOVE
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Wow, it seems like that song was made with this MJHDI site and Front, in mind!!
It's exactly what he did for us, and we can see it in hindsight. :affraid: :woohoo2:
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Thank you Everlastinglove, such a beautiful song. :bearhug:
Wow, it seems like that song was made with this MJHDI site and Front, in mind!!
It's exactly what he did for us, and we can see it in hindsight. :affraid: :woohoo2:
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Wow, it seems like that song was made with this MJHDI site and Front, in mind!!
It's exactly what he did for us, and we can see it in hindsight. :affraid: :woohoo2:
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