Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Hoax Investigation => General Hoax Investigation => Other Odd Things => Topic started by: mykidsmum on March 06, 2010, 10:54:20 PM
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Hi guys, this thread was posted by DAISYDYVA at the "other" hoax forum and I found it so exciting so I am posting it for you all! Daisydyva is awesome! We should do what she did and just start emailing random people who are in someway connected with MJ. Any way, here is her post.
AS YOU MAY KNOW TMZ RECENTLY POSTED A STORY ON DEBBIE ROWE AND HER
TEARFUL VISIT TO FOREST LAWN.
IT WAS QUICKLY NOTICED THAT THEIR LINK FOR THE PHOTOS WAS LISTED
MICHAELJACKSONHOAXDEATH.NET.................WEIRD RIGHT?
THAT GAVE US ''BELIEVERS'' PROOF THAT WE WERE BEING WATCHED BY THE
MEDIA.
SOON AFTER,THE LINK WAS CHANGED TO LISABURKS.COM..........WAS SHE WAS
THE ONE WHO TOOK THE PHOTOS?
WHY DID THEY CHANGE IT?
SO,I WENT TO HER WEBSITE...SHE SEEMED LIKE A RATHER ''DOWN TO EARTH''
PERSON.I DECIDED TO EMAIL HER TO SEE WHY TMZ CHANGED THE LINK TO HER
SITE
ME-
HELLO....HOW ARE YOU?
I'M DAISY AND I JUST WANTED TO ASK YOU A QUESTION.
WHERE YOU THE ONE WHO TOOK...OR...OWN THE PICS OF DEBBIE ROWE AT
FOREST LAWN?
THEY WERE USED MY TMZ......AS YOU MAY KNOW
PLZ WRITE BACK
LISA-
yes, they are my photos.
ME-
thank you for your reply.....o.k,this may be kind of strange to ask
but do you think that there is something strange about mj's
death..........something suspicious
LISA-
i don't know all the facts. what do you think?
ME-
well....i've been investigation his death for a while and i feel that
i may have evidence that mj may have pulled a wool over our eyes.....i
think he may have faked his death.....sounds crazy..........right?
LISA-
i understand that a lot of ppl think that. i haven't given it a lot of
thought. but i do have a friend at the coroners office who was part of
the investigation and autopsy, who told me he's dead and so i go with
what my friend told me.
ME-
WELL....COULD YOU EXPLAIN THIS TO ME
USING THIS SITE
http://savanttools.com/exif.asp?pic= (http://savanttools.com/exif.asp?pic=)
I CAN READ THE EXIF DATA FROM THE AMBULANCE PHOTOS
THE PHOTOS ARE HERE
http://x17online.com/gallery/view_galle (http://x17online.com/gallery/view_galle) … 062509_X17
DRAG THE PICS TO AN OPEN TAB AND COPY THE IMAGE LOCATION
ALL THE PICS THAT SUPPOSE TO BE FROM 6/25/09 ARE FROM 6/24/09
AND CHECK THIS OUT....BEFORE TMZ CREDITED YOU FOR THE FL PHOTO THEY
GAVE CREDIT TO
MICHAELJACKSONHOAXDEATH.NET..
LISA-
Let me have time to look into the photo data, thanks.
I'm aware that TMZ credited MJHD originally. They linked to MJHD was
because the photo they used (mine) and the story information (Erin's
post to MJJC) was obtained from a thread on the forum, here:
viewtopic.php?f=64&t=4973
A further explanation as to why TMZ changed the credit is here on my
blog:
http://lisaburks.typepad.com/gravehunti (http://lisaburks.typepad.com/gravehunti) ... inish.html
the link to the X17 site is incomplete, not going thru, can you
resend? thanks!
ME-
http://x17online.com/gallery/view_gallery.php (http://x17online.com/gallery/view_gallery.php)?
gallery=MJacksonHospital062509_X17
remember....you have to drag the photos to an open tab
LISA-
thanks!
ME-
YOUR WELCOME........TAKE YOUR TIME
LISA-
Okay, just ran the photos and got same results as you did.
Here's my opinion based on what I know as a photographer about camera
data and online technology as a former Yahoo! employee:
Caption:Michael Jackson taken in emergency to hospital in UCLA June
24, 2009 X17online.com exclusive
This caption was human input. It ''could'' have been a typo that no
one corrected.
Further down on the data you will also see the EXIF data, which is
embedded into the image digitally by the camera automatically (pre-
cooked):
Pre-cooked Exif info: This data: Model: Canon EOS 50DCamera Date:
2009:06:2513:13:00ISO: 320 Aperture: 5.6 Exposure Time: 1/160 Focal
length: 85.0 mm Flash: On Exposure program: Program AE
This data indicates image was taken on June 25 at 1:13 pm (camera is
military time.)
As far as I know, and you might check with a photo expert on this, you
cannot manipulate the Exif data. The only way it could be affected is
if the camera's date/time was not set correctly prior to the image
being shot.
So, to me, on the surface, it looks like the photo was taken on June
25 at 1:13pm, and that the caption was written in error.
Hope this is helpful to you!
ME-
YES.........IT WAS THANK YOU.......HAVE YOU HEARD ABOUT THE LAX
AIRPORT ON JUNE 25
LISA-
Yes, I've heard and read a bit about LAX 6/25. Where do you think he
might be?
ME-
WELL...I REMEMBER THAT ONE OF THE FIRST SIGHTING TO OF MJ WERE IN
MEXICO...
I DIDN'T BELIEVE THEM AT FIRST ...BUT THEN A POST ON MJHD
ABOUT A PRIVATE PLANE THE LEFT LAX THAT MORNING
MX 927 Extended Flight Status
MX 927 Flight Status
Flight: (MX) Mexicana 927
Departure Date: Thu Jun 25, 2009
Status: Unknown Status
viewtopic.php?
f=64&t=4603&hilit=LAX&start=20
LISA-
Interesting! I would be very glad if he was still alive, and will be
interested to see how it all plays out. Lots of leads and debunking,
good job on tracking things down. Thank you for the links and
information, always like to try and keep an open mind about things.
ME-
HERE IS A SCREENSHOT SOMEONE SENT TO ME....I DON'T THINK THIS WERE
TAKEN FROM X-17
I DON'T KNOW WHAT SITES THIS PICS ARE FROM.........HOPFULLY IT'S NOT A
SHOP JOB
AND DO YOU KNOW TMZ'S EMAIL.....I WANT TO ASK THEM WHY HAVEN'T PUT MJ
ON THEIR ''DIED TOO YOUNG"
LIST
LISA-
That image is owned by WENN.com as seen in the area that states No
TMZ, etc.
Here's a link to a version of same photo that has original EXIF and
XMP data which you can run through te EXIF Viewer:
http://www.bittenandbound.com/wp-conten (http://www.bittenandbound.com/wp-conten) ... ambulance-
arrives-at-hospital-with-michael-jackson.jpg
The EXIF data indicates June 24 at 8pm. That's -17 hours from when he
was reported to arrive at UCLA. There is no such thing as -17 hour
time difference in the world time zones so we can rule out that the
camera belonged to a tourist who had the camera date/time set
correctly.
The XMP data indicates when it was Photoshopped and the propriety
information was embedded. Photoshop is a common tool used by
professionals and I don't find it suspicious. They use it to add
copyright information and to sharpen image, etc.
Again, the camera date/time could have been set incorrectly. It's
difficult to prove/disprove without finding the camera and
photographer and at this point the settings may have been changed. You
might want to check with WENN.com, maybe they will tell you something
helpful?
The light in the photo indicates it was not taken at 8pm. According
to this historical sunrise/sunset data, the sun set at 8:07pm on both
June 24 and 25. I don't know how accurate their data is, you might
want to check with the National Weather Service:
Monthly Sunrise Sunset Calendar
From what I know of Photoshop, my own experience, I don't believe the
image was lightened to make it look like daylight. That would be
difficult to do without washing out the ambulance, people, etc. Again,
just my opinion.
As for TMZ, try emailing Dax Holt at ********@tmz.com.
Good luck, I hope you find the answers! Thanks for including me in
your research, it's very intriguing!
ME-
heard about Brian Oxman saying that the ambulance photo with mj in it
being a fake.......thanks for the email
LISA-
since we don't actually see MJ in the photo, it's possible!
ME-
NO.......IT'S THE ONE WHERE WE SEE MJ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbGrrNyMpZY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbGrrNyMpZY)
CHECK IT OUT
LISA-
oh, lol...sorry it's been a long day.
ME-
IT'S O.K..........TAKE YOUR TIME.....
LISA-
Well, to me he looked a lot paler in This Is It. And the ambulance
photo looks like he has sideburns or something. That photo was taken
by Ben Evenstad, and you may or may not know this but Ben was the
photographer who snapped Conrad Murray at Forest Lawn last month. I
was at FL that day, didn't see CM but did see Ben. And the photos of
CM were licensed by Ben's agency. Makes you wonder.....
ME-
I'M GONNA LET YOU GET SOME REST......I'LL EMAIL YOU IN THE MORNING
I THINK BEN AND CM ARE SOMEHOW WORKING TOGETHER.......SOUNDS
STUPID....BUT ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE
NITE-NITE.........WELL FOR ME........BECAUSE IN PHILADELPHIA IT'S
2:10AM
LOL....I TALK TOO MUCH. BYE
LISA-
I'll be away from my computer most of the weekend but will get back to
anything you send when I can.
Here's info on CM at FLG and Ben that day, if you haven't seen it:
http://lisaburks.typepad.com/gravehunti (http://lisaburks.typepad.com/gravehunti) ... ayflg.html
Now get some sleep, lol!
Hugs,
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Wow ! Great Post !! Ypu still cannot deny the fact that we have Michael sitting up on the stretcher. As for her friend she may have to tell her that (MJ is dead), because of her job.
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At least she has an open mind... even though she goes to Forest Lawn every months, she did concede that its possible.
She sounds like a really nice lady.
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Wow ! Great Post !! Ypu still cannot deny the fact that we have Michael sitting up on the stretcher. As for her friend she may have to tell her that (MJ is dead), because of her job.
I thought that same thing myself...the thing about her friend.
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IM sorry! I have been in my padded cell too long but ummmm Who's Lisa? Thanks. :)
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thank you for sharing mykidsmum ;)
Lisa looks really nice :)