Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Hoax Investigation => General Hoax Investigation => Other Odd Things => Topic started by: farhatmjj on June 15, 2010, 10:55:23 AM
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ok, i'm not sure if i should post it here but i found it on the other forum. TMZ posted this article on May 17th 2010 : http://www.tmz.com/2010/05/17/lisa-mari ... thank-you/ (http://www.tmz.com/2010/05/17/lisa-marie-presley-michael-jackson-flowers-thank-you/) the handwriting on the "thank you" card looks extremely familiar and many of us agreed it could be Michael's handwriting. and now it looks like it's confirmed by an handwriting expert too. all credit goes to Biscuit from the MJHD.net forum. here's what she wrote on Jun 07, 2010 :
UPDATE! I JUST GOT OFF THE PHONE WITH SIMONE, as far as the ambulance report there is no match to it being Michaels handwriting...as far as the thank you note..she says she can definatly see the f is pretty much exact as on one of michaels letters aswell as the e's/ She says she knows this person is a male and definitely American, and they also change their handwriting alot but something are still present. Iv sent her one more letter of Michaels to make sure with the thank you note comparison then she will email me the report and i shall post.
Ok so i said i would leave the hoaxing stuff now..but seeing as you still werent sure on the hand writing comparison i did with the thank you note and the ambulance report, and suggested getting a handwriting comparison. I have been in contact with a handwriting EXPERT who does these things for all kinds of reasons and have paid to get this finished with.
I have sent off part of the report (so she cant see who its about or what it is)
The thank you note (without the LMP) so you doesn't recognise it too much.)
And a few letters of Michaels.
If this comes back as a match to any of them..and people still decide not to believe it..coming from someone who does this for a living..then i officially will not do anythiing more to try and prove it to you lol.
It will be with us at the end of the week. L.O.V.E (fedora-)
JUST incase you think im going to make my own false report to try and fix an end result just to be right (rofl-)
Sure no problem,
From: Christina H <christina**********@msn.com>
Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 18:13:59 +0100
To: <info@********handwriting.com>
Subject: RE: Handwriting Comparison
Hi Simone,
I have paid the invoice. Would you be able to send me an online copy of the report also through email when it is complete?
Thanks
> To: christina*********@msn.com
> Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 18:53:10 +0200
> Subject: Re: Handwriting Comparison
> From: info@*******handwriting.com
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> Hi Christina,
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> Thank you, I have managed to print them out. Can you please confirm what you would like, either a verbal opinion £*** or a full report £*** I will then send you an invoice via Paypal to reflect your decision.
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> Kind regards
> Simone
then on Jun 14, 2010 she posted the report : Full Written Report for Christina ******
Purpose of examination
I have been given 8 small samples of handwriting and was asked to examine them and determine if any of 1(thank you note), 2 & 3 matched 4,5,6,7 & 8.
At a glance I was able to determine that samples 4, 5 & 6 were actually written by the same hand. This was confirmed to me.
On close examination I could see the following characteristics in the samples that matched with sample 1.
Sample 4
• The letter “m” in “me” has almost 3 humps to it, like the “m” in “much” in sample 1(thank you note). The starting stroke looks like a continuation of the actual letter
• The letter “h” in “how” strongly resembles the “h” in “much “ (sample 1) but without the added loop
Sample 5
• The word “thank” is consistent to “Thank” in sample 1(thank you note)
• The letter “r” in “never” is consistent to the “r” in “Flowers” (sample 1)
• The connecting letter “o” in “childhood” resembles the same link of “o” in “flowers” (sample 1) the letter is linked together at the top as opposed to the middle or bottom
Sample 6
• The letter “F” in “Forever” and the last letter “r” is consistent to the “F” and “r” in “Flowers” (sample 1)
• The word “for” is consistent to the word “for” in sample 1
• The formation of the loop in the letter “y” in “you” is consistent to the loop in the letter “g” in “donating” (sample 1)
Sample 7
• The letter “h” in “they” is consistent to the letter “h” in “much” (sample 1) (thank you note)
• The letter “r” in “our” is consistent to the letter “r” in “Flowers” (sample 1)(thank you note)
• The letter “g” in “things” is consistent to the letter “g” in “donating” (sample 1)(thank you note)
Summary
I am confident in saying that samples 4, 5, 6, 7 & 8 were written by the same person that wrote sample 1(than k you note). There are far too many consistent characteristics to deny this fact.
Unfortunately there wasn’t enough consistent evidence to include samples 2 & 3. The only observation I could be confident in making is that they were written by the same person.
(Name deleted)
Graphologist
(the 8th one was an extra one to make sure but i deleted it off my computer)
these were the samples they were talking about :
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:shock: :shock:
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But there's no particular thread for this topic, some people may not stumble upon that on there. I don't know, i just feel this thread shouldn't be locked, IMHO. :roll:
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Its not a double post. The thread CC is linking to is talking about a completely different card and that link apparently is now the source of some confusion.
The analysis is regarding the LMP thank you card posted on TMZ.... not this random "patience" card.
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Its not a double post. The thread CC is linking to is talking about a completely different card and that link apparently is now the source of some confusion.
The analysis is regarding the LMP thank you card posted on TMZ.... not this random "patience" card.
IN THAT POST AT PAGE 2 IS THE SAME ANALYSIS... :roll:
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But there's no particular thread for this topic, some people may not stumble upon that on there. I don't know, i just feel this thread shouldn't be locked, IMHO. :roll:
SORRY, IS THE SAME ANALYSIS ON THE OTHER TOPIC BUT YOU ARE RIGHT, IS A DIFERENT TOPIC.. SORRY, BIG SORRY!
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Well.. im pretty speechless right now.
I dont believe that was LMPs handswriting, as it doesnt look like any of her pasts examples that i could find.
Hmmm.. right... ok.. speechless...
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Well.. im pretty speechless right now.
I dont believe that was LMPs handswriting, as it doesnt look like any of her pasts examples that i could find.
Hmmm.. right... ok.. speechless...
Me too. This sums it up really well. Thank you for paying to have the handwriting analyzed!
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Well.. im pretty speechless right now.
I dont believe that was LMPs handswriting, as it doesnt look like any of her pasts examples that i could find.
Hmmm.. right... ok.. speechless...
Me too. This sums it up really well. Thank you for paying to have the handwriting analyzed!
Thanks from me also!!!
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Another thought was what if the actual florist wrote the card if it was a phone order???
Could that be possible too? Thanks for that information. I always thought that it looked very similar the MJ's handwiting too... Cheers xoxo
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Another thought was what if the actual florist wrote the card if it was a phone order???
Could that be possible too? Thanks for that information. I always thought that it looked very similar the MJ's handwiting too... Cheers xoxo
Yes, it probably came from Michael's Flowers. Isn't that the floral shop that Miko Brando now operates. It would be easy enough for MJ to do in collaboration with Miko. Hee hee! Are we connecting the dots?????
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8-)
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Thank God....finally some credible evidence that he is alive.....handwriting analysis is submitted as evidence in court....this is amazing...thank you for posting this farhatmjjj and thank you Biscuit for your time, effort and paying to obtain proof that would be submittable in a court of law that HE IS ALIVE!!!!!!!!!!!! :D :D :D :D :D
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The thank you card was sent to sunflower guy, not to miko...and we don't know where the "thank you" flowers came from.
Miko's flower were offered to Larry on his show...
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I asked Miko if the flowers offered by lmp to sunflower guy came from his shop and if yes, does he knows who wrote the card...Maybe he'll check about this and see the writting :|
I completly agree with the analysis above. Especially about the "THANK" that look very similar.
Another explanation : LMP and MIchael had the same employee to have their letters written... :lol:
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man why arent ppl commenting on this...THIS IS IT!!! this is HUGE,,its what weve been waiting for.. :o :o :shock: :shock:
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OMG...finally definitive proof...thank U soooooo much for posting this :!: :D :!:
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Yes, this is BIG news! This is a good hard proof we needed! Thanks for all your hard work and money invested for doing this! Thank You! :mrgreen:
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aww!! I hope this is true!
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Thank God....finally some credible evidence that he is alive.....handwriting analysis is submitted as evidence in court....this is amazing...thank you for posting this farhatmjjj and thank you Biscuit for your time, effort and paying to obtain proof that would be submittable in a court of law that HE IS ALIVE!!!!!!!!!!!! :D :D :D :D :D
you're very welcome alive! :D
man why arent ppl commenting on this...THIS IS IT!!! this is HUGE,,its what weve been waiting for.. :o :o :shock: :shock:
same question mirandacnc! may be people aren't believing this or what...? :roll:
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OMG...finally definitive proof...thank U soooooo much for posting this :!: :D :!:
you're welcome. :) i really believe it's a big proof. :mrgreen:
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mirandacnc wrote:
man why arent ppl commenting on this...THIS IS IT!!! this is HUGE,,its what weve been waiting for..
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Well I'm trying not to comment as much any more because every time I do someone either laughs at me or yells at me so what's the point any more.
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The thank you note's handwriting definitely seems to match the first 3 handwritten letters on the right. The way the person writes their T's and Y's look the same. Also the thank you note has upper case and lower case letters mixed up in words just like the letters on the right hand side. In some words there is upper case letter then lower case like a pattern. If those letters were written by MJ then it looks like he could have also written the thank you note.
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Awesome! Maybe the whole note isn't identical because I don't think MJ is stupid enough to write something in his handwriting we all know how he writes. Just like he disguises himself he more than likely disguised his handwriting too. :D But it look pretty darn close :shock:
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Well, this is a fact that is undeniable, handwriting is a huge evidence :)
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Thank you so much farhatmjj for all your efforts and dedication! God bless you!
Moreover, someone mentioned before Lisa's handwriting. I couldn't find any sample on the Internet, so if any of you has a picture of her hand notes, I believe it would be highly relevant to this demonstration.
In addition, to sustain this theory of Michael's handwriting on the thank you note, I found a perfect resemblance on the letter "L" from "Lots" with the "L" from "Live", visible in the attached note written by Michael, regarding his reasons for separation (first row, last word on the right).
What are the odds for coincidences?
LOVE,
Andy
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was this thank you note supposedly written after his "death"? I don't understand the situation about the handwriting here and why its a big deal :?
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ok, i'm not sure if i should post it here but i found it on the other forum. all credit goes to Biscuit from the MJHD.net forum. here's what she wrote on Jun 07, 2010 :
Farhatmjj, just one thing. How can we be sure of Simone's credentials? I mean, this is awesome news, but before I get my hopes up really high, I think it's worth considering the credibility of this graphologist in order to remain objective.
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Her credentials are listed on this thread : http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxdeath.net/ ... =64&t=8571 (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxdeath.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=64&t=8571)
read from pg 15 on...its a long one, but theyre there...
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Her credentials are listed on this thread : http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxdeath.net/ ... =64&t=8571 (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxdeath.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=64&t=8571)
read from pg 15 on...its a long one, but theyre there...
Thank you.
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I am certainly not a hand writing expert, but I found more inconsistencies than similarities.
While my comparison was only done based on the "flower note" & the first letter presented, it was quite inconsistent IMO.
I did my comparison based mainly on words that were written versus printed.
The "o" in the "flower letter" was not the same as the "o" in MJ's. MJ tends to make the "o" & then extend a line from the "o" to the right. He does this irregardless of whether or not a letter is going to follow the "o".
The "f" was looped versus the other letter which was not.
The "r" was squared in MJ's letter. It was not done in the "flower letter".
I also did not find the "s" matched.
I believe I have a link saved where there are many of MJ's hand written letters for comparison as well.
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I am certainly not a hand writing expert, but I found more inconsistencies than similarities.
While my comparison was only done based on the "flower note" & the first letter presented, it was quite inconsistent IMO.
I did my comparison based mainly on words that were written versus printed.
The "o" in the "flower letter" was not the same as the "o" in MJ's. MJ tends to make the "o" & then extend a line from the "o" to the right. He does this irregardless of whether or not a letter is going to follow the "o".
The "f" was looped versus the other letter which was not.
The "r" was squared in MJ's letter. It was not done in the "flower letter".
But that's the thing, an expert is saying that it's his writing!
I also did not find the "s" matched.
I believe I have a link saved where there are many of MJ's hand written letters for comparison as well.
That's the point- an expert said it's MJ's writing!
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was this thank you note supposedly written after his "death"? I don't understand the situation about the handwriting here and why its a big deal :?
the "Thank you " card is supposed to be written by Lisa Marie. She sent some flowers and this card to the "sunflower guy" that offered sunflowers for Michael's grave few weeks ago.
We really think this card could have been written by MJ and we are comparing writtings.
A graphologist made a study (she's been paid and she didn't know it was MJ's Writting) and she said it was same writting on both "thank you card written by LMP" and other paper written by MJ.
So we think MJ could have wrote this card, supposedly sent by LMP.
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Here is the other topic that was started on this - so no one get confused:
viewtopic.php?f=48&t=10502&start=25 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=10502&start=25)
And yes... this is huge. The word "patience" alone is a huge thing! ;)
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wowza this is it :lol: :shock: :lol:
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Here is the other topic that was started on this - so no one get confused:
viewtopic.php?f=48&t=10502&start=25 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=10502&start=25)
And yes... this is huge. The word "patience" alone is a huge thing! ;)
No it's not the same topic... This one is talking about the card LMP wrote to the sunflower guy.
The other one is talking about a card that says "I love you more MJ Patience"
The LMP card says "Thank fou for the Flowers..."
Not the same topic ^^
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Here is the other topic that was started on this - so no one get confused:
viewtopic.php?f=48&t=10502&start=25 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=10502&start=25)
And yes... this is huge. The word "patience" alone is a huge thing! ;)
No it's not the same topic... This one is talking about the card LMP wrote to the sunflower guy.
The other one is talking about a card that says "I love you more MJ Patience"
The LMP card says "Thank fou for the Flowers..."
Not the same topic ^^
OOOOHHHHHH!!! Thank you!!! Sorry about that - now I confused everyone :lol:
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You're welcome ^^ It's just that we have 2 PROOFS, instead of one. So BE HAPPY !! :lol:
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You're welcome ^^ It's just that we have 2 PROOFS, instead of one. So BE HAPPY !! :lol:
IMHO, the writing looks the same on both notes.
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mirandacnc wrote:
man why arent ppl commenting on this...THIS IS IT!!! this is HUGE,,its what weve been waiting for..
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Well I'm trying not to comment as much any more because every time I do someone either laughs at me or yells at me so what's the point any more.
Er, could I just ask what your (adorable) signature means?
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PinkTopaz: lol, I was just clowning around one night thinking about Michael liking KFC and then with all the Sunflower subject matter I just put the banner together :D
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was this thank you note supposedly written after his "death"? I don't understand the situation about the handwriting here and why its a big deal :?
the "Thank you " card is supposed to be written by Lisa Marie. She sent some flowers and this card to the "sunflower guy" that offered sunflowers for Michael's grave few weeks ago.
We really think this card could have been written by MJ and we are comparing writtings.
A graphologist made a study (she's been paid and she didn't know it was MJ's Writting) and she said it was same writting on both "thank you card written by LMP" and other paper written by MJ.
So we think MJ could have wrote this card, supposedly sent by LMP.
Thank you so much for explaining this <3 WOW just from writings that I have seen and Im no expert- it does look like Michaels. so that means he must still be in the states?
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I think leaving US, and showing himself at airport would be dangerous for someone that wants to hide. I mean when you leave a country, or enter a country you need papers, no ?
Anyway, you cannot be best hidden than near the place you usually live, caus eyou know the place, you know how to stay hidden, you have friends and family to help you. It's easier than staying alone in a foreing country.
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Thank you so much farhatmjj for all your efforts and dedication! God bless you!
Moreover, someone mentioned before Lisa's handwriting. I couldn't find any sample on the Internet, so if any of you has a picture of her hand notes, I believe it would be highly relevant to this demonstration.
In addition, to sustain this theory of Michael's handwriting on the thank you note, I found a perfect resemblance on the letter "L" from "Lots" with the "L" from "Live", visible in the attached note written by Michael, regarding his reasons for separation (first row, last word on the right).
What are the odds for coincidences?
LOVE,
Andy
first, it was done by Biscuit from teh other forum, i just posted it on here. so the effort is hers. but you're very welcome! God bless you too. :) this is LMP's handwriting supposedly : (http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs517.ash1/30448_1488886626043_1350276285_31320357_6733922_n.jpg)
thanks for the other photo, the L looks really the same!
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was this thank you note supposedly written after his "death"? I don't understand the situation about the handwriting here and why its a big deal :?
yes it was written after his "death". i should have stated that in the post. i just edited and included the link. :)
Her credentials are listed on this thread : http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxdeath.net/ ... =64&t=8571 (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxdeath.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=64&t=8571)
read from pg 15 on...its a long one, but theyre there...
Thank you.
thanks from me too. :)
I am certainly not a hand writing expert, but I found more inconsistencies than similarities.
While my comparison was only done based on the "flower note" & the first letter presented, it was quite inconsistent IMO.
I did my comparison based mainly on words that were written versus printed.
The "o" in the "flower letter" was not the same as the "o" in MJ's. MJ tends to make the "o" & then extend a line from the "o" to the right. He does this irregardless of whether or not a letter is going to follow the "o".
The "f" was looped versus the other letter which was not.
The "r" was squared in MJ's letter. It was not done in the "flower letter".
But that's the thing, an expert is saying that it's his writing!
I also did not find the "s" matched.
I believe I have a link saved where there are many of MJ's hand written letters for comparison as well.
That's the point- an expert said it's MJ's writing!
exactly. an EXPERT confirmed it's the same handwriting and i also agree with that. it's obvious it wouldn't be all the same, as someone above said he would have "disguised" his handwriting too.
I think leaving US, and showing himself at airport would be dangerous for someone that wants to hide. I mean when you leave a country, or enter a country you need papers, no ?
Anyway, you cannot be best hidden than near the place you usually live, caus eyou know the place, you know how to stay hidden, you have friends and family to help you. It's easier than staying alone in a foreing country.
i always believed he was in the US only. because of the same reasons you stated. 8-)
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I think leaving US, and showing himself at airport would be dangerous for someone that wants to hide. I mean when you leave a country, or enter a country you need papers, no ?
Anyway, you cannot be best hidden than near the place you usually live, caus eyou know the place, you know how to stay hidden, you have friends and family to help you. It's easier than staying alone in a foreing country.
Usually what you are looking for is right under your nose!
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Well.. im pretty speechless right now.
I dont believe that was LMPs handswriting, as it doesnt look like any of her pasts examples that i could find.
Hmmm.. right... ok.. speechless...
Me too. This sums it up really well. Thank you for paying to have the handwriting analyzed!
Thanks from me also!!!
Yes, Thank you very very much..I don't know what to say right now... So I think this is a real proof? I mean can anyone fake that handwriting so perfectly? And if why sign it with LMP? This made my day ( it sucked until now :D)
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Well.. im pretty speechless right now.
I dont believe that was LMPs handswriting, as it doesnt look like any of her pasts examples that i could find.
Hmmm.. right... ok.. speechless...
Me too. This sums it up really well. Thank you for paying to have the handwriting analyzed!
Thanks from me also!!!
Yes, Thank you very very much..I don't know what to say right now... So I think this is a real proof? I mean can anyone fake that handwriting so perfectly? And if why sign it with LMP? This made my day ( it sucked until now :D)
haha i believe it's a real proof! i was comparing the handwritings by myself, with as much letters as possible. and i have to agree this IS Michael's handwriting. :)
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an expert already said it's the same hand writing but i'd still like to share my own analysis i started few days ago. here it is :
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs115.snc4/36129_1490022414437_1350276285_31322365_3346880_n.jpg)
the "h" in the "how", "the" and "earth" in the 1 st letter match completely with the "h" in the "thank", "much" in the 2nd letter (thank you note).
the "e'' in the "because", "earth", "love", "people" in the 1st letter match completely with the "e"s in "the" and "love" in the "thank you" note.
the "thank" and the "love" in both the letters are the same.
the "s" in the "just" in the 1st letter and the "s" in the "so" in the 2nd letter match too.
the "d" in the "child" in the 1st letter and the "d" in the "donating" in the 2nd letter match, a li'l different but not totally different. the person was certainly trying to "disguise" their handwriting.
same thing with the "m" in the reminds" and the "managed" in the 1st letter that quite match with the "m" in the "much" in the 2nd letter.
the "f" in the "for" in the 1st letter match with the "f" in the "for" in the 2nd letter.
the "o" in the "concieve" in the 1st letter matches with the "o" in the "so" in the 2nd letter without a doubt.
i'm certain the handwritings are of the same person, no doubt on that. and a handwriting expert has even confirmed the fact.
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wohooooo!!!
Maybe he signed it with LMP because LMP = Love Means Patience, hehe
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:shock: speechless.
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WOOOOO :D :D :D !!!!!
I love great evidence such as this ;) !!!! Thanks soo much for this I can't thank you enough :D :D :D When I feel down things just come left and right to make me better :D MICHAEL LIVES :D ;) :P !!!!
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This hoax drama is testing my patience but I'll persevere because it's for a grand plan. :)
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This gave me a lot more faith!! Thanks!! :)
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did anyone see this video? [youtube:2cy9651o]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qOay8foEz4[/youtube:2cy9651o]
MJhoaxevidence says the ambulance report is Michael's handwriting too, i'm confused about it.. but i too thought it was his handwriting. i think i'm gonna analyze it further. but what do you people think??
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did anyone see this video? [youtube:krki7xk1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qOay8foEz4[/youtube:krki7xk1]
MJhoaxevidence says the ambulance report is Michael's handwriting too, i'm confused about it.. but i too thought it was his handwriting. i think i'm gonna analyze it further. but what do you people think??
I never watched vids from that channel before. I think it was very interstingly made!
And to your question.. I gotta say those handwritings look perculiarly a lot alike! I have never though to make that comparison myself.. I can't say that I am absolutely positive if it is the man himself who filled out the report - but I really would not be surprised if it was! :o :lol:
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yesterday on tv, they were showing an hotel in south france and the guy said Michael was a customer there and used to make jokes to employee, disguised in homeless, or gentleman, he even rented a truck and pretended to deliver stuff to the hotel.
I can so imagine Michael write his own death certificate...
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thankyou for finding this out for us more weird stuff for us to add to the list many thanks
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Elvis was said to have filled out his own autopsy report.
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I've been wondering the past couple of days if MJ's many supposed hospital visits over the years were partly fact finding missions or information gathering exercises, so he could learn first hand about medical terminology and hospital procedures in readiness for something like this. I may be way off of course, and if his hospital visits have all been for genuine health reasons I sincerely apologise, but this has just been on my mind.
It wouldn't surprise me at all if he's been totally blatant and 'in your face', with all these 'official' forms etc. and could have had them all prepared and yes, even written by himself, even before they were 'needed', just releasing them at the appropriate time.
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Lol, I wasn't even aware of this thread until today!
Of course we couldn't have a complete Elvis/MJ parallel without a graphologist positive handwriting analysis ! 8-)
What's next? Can't wait!
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Just remember Mj helped MANY hospital throughout the world.Giving money, buying equipment. I guess he would have found any answer to the question he had in mind about anything. He had a lot of relations with medical centers.
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yesterday on tv, they were showing an hotel in south france and the guy said Michael was a customer there and used to make jokes to employee, disguised in homeless, or gentleman, he even rented a truck and pretended to deliver stuff to the hotel.
I can so imagine Michael write his own death certificate...
Wow. that's so interesting. michael is quite the prankster it seems. everywhere i go these days, i look closely to see if Michael might be right under my nose in disguise! 8-)
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I've been wondering the past couple of days if MJ's many supposed hospital visits over the years were partly fact finding missions or information gathering exercises, so he could learn first hand about medical terminology and hospital procedures in readiness for something like this. I may be way off of course, and if his hospital visits have all been for genuine health reasons I sincerely apologise, but this has just been on my mind.
It wouldn't surprise me at all if he's been totally blatant and 'in your face', with all these 'official' forms etc. and could have had them all prepared and yes, even written by himself, even before they were 'needed', just releasing them at the appropriate time.
I forget where I read this, but I read somewhere that Michael was very close to personnel in operating room at UCLA and he was often allowed to watch surgeries from the observation area. I read that he was fascinated by surgical procedures. I'll try and remember where I read this. Might have been somehwere on this forum?
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Elvis was said to have filled out his own autopsy report.
Really? I did not know that. Awesome.
thankyou for finding this out for us more weird stuff for us to add to the list many thanks
I think it would be pretty of cool if they/he did fill it out them/himselves.. :D And very bold.
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Just remember Mj helped MANY hospital throughout the world.Giving money, buying equipment. I guess he would have found any answer to the question he had in mind about anything. He had a lot of relations with medical centers.
Oh yes, how could I have forgotten MJ's dealings with hospitals were in no way limited to his own medical visits. I reckon he felt very comfortable in hospitals!
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I've been wondering the past couple of days if MJ's many supposed hospital visits over the years were partly fact finding missions or information gathering exercises, so he could learn first hand about medical terminology and hospital procedures in readiness for something like this. I may be way off of course, and if his hospital visits have all been for genuine health reasons I sincerely apologise, but this has just been on my mind.
It wouldn't surprise me at all if he's been totally blatant and 'in your face', with all these 'official' forms etc. and could have had them all prepared and yes, even written by himself, even before they were 'needed', just releasing them at the appropriate time.
I forget where I read this, but I read somewhere that Michael was very close to personnel in operating room at UCLA and he was often allowed to watch surgeries from the observation area. I read that he was fascinated by surgical procedures. I'll try and remember where I read this. Might have been somehwere on this forum?
Thanks for that interesting snippet of information. As I just said, he obviously felt very at home in hospital settings!
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I've been wondering the past couple of days if MJ's many supposed hospital visits over the years were partly fact finding missions or information gathering exercises, so he could learn first hand about medical terminology and hospital procedures in readiness for something like this. I may be way off of course, and if his hospital visits have all been for genuine health reasons I sincerely apologise, but this has just been on my mind.
It wouldn't surprise me at all if he's been totally blatant and 'in your face', with all these 'official' forms etc. and could have had them all prepared and yes, even written by himself, even before they were 'needed', just releasing them at the appropriate time.
I forget where I read this, but I read somewhere that Michael was very close to personnel in operating room at UCLA and he was often allowed to watch surgeries from the observation area. I read that he was fascinated by surgical procedures. I'll try and remember where I read this. Might have been somehwere on this forum?
Wow, I didn't know. I would love to see this news. :)
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Elvis was said to have filled out his own autopsy report.
Really? I did not know that. Awesome.
I have to correct myself: it was the "Pre-Autopsy Report", the Medical Examiner's report, but still after having "passed".
The actual death certificate for Elvis Presley was not even signed until approximately two months after the alleged occurrence. However, the Pre-Autopsy Report by the Medical Examiner in the case, Jerry Francisco, was considered shortened at best, and has been confirmed to contain consistent handwriting of the ‘alleged deceased’. The Commission concurs with these findings.
http://www.elvisinfonet.com/aitcheson.html
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i firmly believe the handwriting in the thank you note is Michaels but i'm confused with the ambulance report, then in makes confused all over again! :x
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yesterday on tv, they were showing an hotel in south france and the guy said Michael was a customer there and used to make jokes to employee, disguised in homeless, or gentleman, he even rented a truck and pretended to deliver stuff to the hotel.
I can so imagine Michael write his own death certificate...
That makes me wonder about the identity of this man.[attachment=0:30eizmb0]GrinGuy[1].jpg[/attachment:30eizmb0]
And when you go on the site http://www.sunflowerguy.com (http://www.sunflowerguy.com) and go to community, and the middle video, I wonder if this is the same guy that delivered the flowers in the still photo. http://www.sunflowerguy.com/community_outreach.php (http://www.sunflowerguy.com/community_outreach.php) Square chin, MJ's other voice, fat suit - could work. And Gringuy = Greenguy. :mrgreen: Since Harvey and Jason Levin are "relatives", maybe that's an inside bit of info. Just a wild thought! Hidden in plain site. We've got to keep our eyes open to possibilities!
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yesterday on tv, they were showing an hotel in south france and the guy said Michael was a customer there and used to make jokes to employee, disguised in homeless, or gentleman, he even rented a truck and pretended to deliver stuff to the hotel.
I can so imagine Michael write his own death certificate...
That makes me wonder about the identity of this man.[attachment=0:xiuapwd2]GrinGuy[1].jpg[/attachment:xiuapwd2]
And when you go on the site http://www.sunflowerguy.com (http://www.sunflowerguy.com) and go to community, and the middle video, I wonder if this is the same guy that delivered the flowers in the still photo. http://www.sunflowerguy.com/community_outreach.php (http://www.sunflowerguy.com/community_outreach.php) Square chin, MJ's other voice, fat suit - could work. And Gringuy = Greenguy. :mrgreen: Since Harvey and Jason Levin are "relatives", maybe that's an inside bit of info. Just a wild thought! Hidden in plain site. We've got to keep our eyes open to possibilities!
GRINGUY just jumped to my eyes on the picture :mrgreen:
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I get the fact that a handwriting expert is involved in all of this, but I'm totally lost about what transpired prior to that. I attempted to dig up the original topic (if it wasn't locked, dead and buried), but I was unsuccessful. Can someone PLEASE provide a brief recap? If you don't feel like it, I understand. Thanks. :?