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Re: Walgren and Brazil to receive award
January 14, 2012, 04:34:42 PM
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exactly @ anna...my concern too.is this meaning michael is dead ???

Oh, gosh, I didn't mean to create an uproar. I'm so sorry.

I don't believe that Michael is dead. I do believe this could be a sting but it's a guess. At any rate, why should everything go as we think it should?

Yes, I do believe that propofol has been abused by some but mostly by those in the medical field who has access to it. The report that Sarah31 posted is new to me, the last I read was that there was only a couple of reported deaths, both medical personnel, never lay people. But that was what I read and it appears that more information has come forward since then.

I do believe that these prosecutors should be recognized. I believe they are truly attorneys and they did a great job. They were careful to humanize Michael and made sure not to bring any of the negative history into the courtroom. They made sure that they did their homework and they worked hard on behalf of the Jackson family (and Michael).

I don't think that anyone should be discouraged by this one way or another. Whether Michael is alive or d**d these attorneys did a good job.

We are searching for truth of what happened to Michael. In the end we will find the truth - whatever that may be. Remember, the truth will prevail in the end. I believe that to be true.

Blessings.
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I'm proud to be a child of God and a member of MJ's Army of L.O.V.E.
 
"Press coverage of my life is like [watching] a fictitious movie...like watching science fiction. It's not true." ~Michael Jackson (2005)

"You should not believe everything you read. You are missing the most important revelations". Craig Harvey 3-15-2012

Re: Walgren and Brazil to receive award
January 14, 2012, 05:09:22 PM
voice, the article I posted above (which also mentions the "controlled substance" issue) is from August 2009. So this information has been around forever, but judging from this thread, including the fact that Propofol is a prescripton drug, no one really ever looked into the basics of Propofol on here in 2,5 years or didn't post about it, maybe because it didn't really fit with the hoax or couldn't easily be explained in the context of a hoax? So that's why people should just do their own research and ask Google from time to time, you won't find everything on this forum.
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Re: Walgren and Brazil to receive award
January 14, 2012, 05:25:40 PM
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January 14, 2012, 11:50:53 PM »
Thanks for sharing this with us. I think this is proof that the court proceedings were real.

By the way - those two did a great job and deserve the award.

Blessings.

You're welcome Voice  bearhug !!!!! This 2 had done a "great job" indeed  ;)  :lol: ,I'm their NUMBER ONE FAN  lolol/  !!!!
I also like this artice because it contains very important DEtAiLs for the HOAX  ;) . Great minds ThINK alike  :) !!!!
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January 14, 2012, 05:31:22 PM
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Nice new avatar applehead!! :lol: :lol:

Thank's Andrea  :lol:  :lol: :lol:  !!!! I had this avatar even since 2 days ago,but I guess no one noticed ,lol  lolol/ !!!!!
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January 14, 2012, 05:40:52 PM
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 :roll:

Yes ,yes your comment was "precious" ,thank you  :lol:  :lol: :lol: :lol: !!!!!
Now here is mine  geek/  :lol:  :lol: :lol:  !!!!


Robin Williams discussing Michael Jackson on Propofol (The Graham Norton Show)
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOIBBE3ObRY[/youtube]
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Re: Walgren and Brazil to receive award
January 14, 2012, 06:00:20 PM
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This is the first I’ve heard of this award :?  But while we’re speaking of “awards”  Branca is also receiving one, a Grammy.

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Estate executor John Branca to receive 2012 GRAMMY Service Award
It was announced in December by the GRAMMY Foundation that John Branca, a partner in the law firm of Ziffren Brittenham LLP and former Board Chair of the GRAMMY Foundation’s sister charitable foundation, MusiCares®, will be the recipient of the 2012 Service Award at the GRAMMY Foundation®’s 14th Annual Entertainment Law Initiative® Luncheon & Scholarship Presentation on Friday, Feb. 10, 2012, at the Beverly Hills Hotel in Beverly Hills, Calif. Daniel Ek, co-founder and CEO of Spotify, will deliver the keynote address at this year’s luncheon.

The Service Award was established in 2006 to recognize contributions by prominent entertainment attorneys that include outstanding service to individuals (pro bono or otherwise); leadership and participation with organizations that help advance the music community; and work to affect positive change that benefits the community overall. Past honorees include David Braun, Jay L. Cooper, John T. Frankenheimer, Joel A. Katz, Paul G. Marshall, and Al Schlesinger. The ELI luncheon is one of the most prestigious events held during GRAMMY® Week, a celebration that will culminate with the 54th Annual GRAMMY Awards at STAPLES Center on Sunday, Feb. 12, 2012. The telecast will be broadcast live on the CBS Television Network at 8 p.m. ET/PT.

“For close to 15 years, our GRAMMY Foundation Entertainment Law Initiative has created a forum where law students and seasoned attorneys can come together for research, dialogue and debate in the field of entertainment law,” said Neil Portnow, President/CEO of The Recording Academy®, the GRAMMY Foundation and MusiCares. “This year, we are pleased to have a digital visionary such as Daniel Ek join us for what will undoubtedly be an insightful and thought-provoking keynote address. It is also our pleasure to honor our good friend, former MusiCares Board Chair and steward of our current MusiCares 20th Anniversary Campaign, John Branca, with our Service Award. Both of these individuals are at the forefront of our industry.”

“It’s a really exciting time for the music industry,” said Ek. “Today we have the ability to listen to all the world’s music, instantly and wherever we are on the planet. That’s a pretty amazing idea and one which inspired me to launch Spotify. I’m a big supporter of the GRAMMY Foundation’s Entertainment Law Initiative and look forward to catching up with everyone in February.”

“I’m honored by the recognition and pleased to join such a distinguished group of past Service Award recipients,” added Branca. “Daniel is one of our industry’s real visionaries, and I looking forward his talk, as well as hearing about the topics presented in the winning student papers — they often prove to be cutting-edge topics in our industry.”

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Posted on 12-19-11
RENOWNED ENTERTAINMENT ATTORNEY AND FORMER BOARD CHAIR OF MUSICARES JOHN BRANCA TO RECEIVE SERVICE AWARD
SPOTIFY CEO DANIEL EK TO DELIVER KEYNOTE ADDRESS AT GRAMMY FOUNDATION®'S 14TH ANNUAL ENTERTAINMENT LAW INITIATIVE® LUNCHEON & SCHOLARSHIP PRESENTATION

SANTA MONICA, Calif. (Dec. 19, 2011) — It was announced today by the GRAMMY Foundation that John Branca, a partner in the law firm of Ziffren Brittenham LLP and former Board Chair of the GRAMMY Foundation's sister charitable foundation, MusiCares®, will be the recipient of the 2012 Service Award at the GRAMMY Foundation®'s 14th Annual Entertainment Law Initiative® Luncheon & Scholarship Presentation on Friday, Feb. 10, 2012, at the Beverly Hills Hotel in Beverly Hills, Calif. Daniel Ek, co-founder and CEO of Spotify, will deliver the keynote address at this year's luncheon.

 
The Service Award was established in 2006 to recognize contributions by prominent entertainment attorneys that include outstanding service to individuals (pro bono or otherwise); leadership and participation with organizations that help advance the music community; and work to affect positive change that benefits the community overall. Past honorees include David Braun, Jay L. Cooper, John T. Frankenheimer, Joel A. Katz, Paul G. Marshall, and Al Schlesinger. The ELI luncheon is one of the most prestigious events held during GRAMMY® Week, a celebration that will culminate with the 54th Annual GRAMMY Awards at STAPLES Center on Sunday, Feb. 12, 2012. The telecast will be broadcast live on the CBS Television Network at 8 p.m. ET/PT.
 
"For close to 15 years, our GRAMMY Foundation Entertainment Law Initiative has created a forum where law students and seasoned attorneys can come together for research, dialogue and debate in the field of entertainment law," said Neil Portnow, President/CEO of The Recording Academy®, the GRAMMY Foundation and MusiCares. "This year, we are pleased to have a digital visionary such as Daniel Ek join us for what will undoubtedly be an insightful and thought-provoking keynote address. It is also our pleasure to honor our good friend, former MusiCares Board Chair and steward of our current MusiCares 20th Anniversary Campaign, John Branca, with our Service Award. Both of these individuals are at the forefront of our industry."
 
"It’s a really exciting time for the music industry," said Ek. "Today we have the ability to listen to all the world’s music, instantly and wherever we are on the planet. That’s a pretty amazing idea and one which inspired me to launch Spotify. I’m a big supporter of the GRAMMY Foundation's Entertainment Law Initiative and look forward to catching up with everyone in February."
 
"I'm honored by the recognition and pleased to join such a distinguished group of past Service Award recipients," added Branca. "Daniel is one of our industry’s real visionaries, and I looking forward his talk, as well as hearing about the topics presented in the winning student papers — they often prove to be cutting-edge topics in our industry."
 
Ek, a serial entrepreneur and technologist who started his first company in 1997 at the age of 14, co-founded Spotify in 2006 with Martin Lorentzon. As CEO of Spotify, Ek's role is to guide the vision and strategy of the company as it grows. Leading the management team from his hometown of Stockholm, Ek is also responsible for nurturing a passionate working environment for everyone at Spotify.
 

Prior to Spotify, Ek founded Advertigo, the online advertising company acquired by TradeDoubler, and previously held senior roles at Nordic auction company Tradera (acquired by eBay). He was also chief technology officer at Stardoll, the fashion and entertainment community for tweens that now boasts more than 100 million users worldwide.
 
Branca specializes in the music and live appearance industries. He is a leading artist representative, having represented an unprecedented 29 members of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, including Aerosmith, the Beach Boys, Bee Gees, the Doors, Fleetwood Mac, Michael Jackson, the Rolling Stones, and Carlos Santana, among others, and such other artists and celebrities as Enrique Iglesias, Nickelback and Mike Tyson. He has been at the forefront in the acquisition and sale of music publishing catalogs, including the acquisition of the Beatles catalog, ATV Music, for Michael Jackson, as well as its merger with Sony Music to create the world’s third-largest music publisher, Sony ATV Music. Branca has also been the architect of the sales of many major music catalogs, including Berry Gordy’s Jobete Music Co., the Kurt Cobain catalog, the Leiber and Stoller catalog, and the Rodgers & Hammerstein Organization.
 
He serves on the board of trustees for Occidental College, participates as an active fundraiser for the UCLA athletic department and serves as the Co-Chairman of MusiCares' 20th Anniversary Campaign, a campaign in support of the leading industry charity devoted to helping members of the music community. Branca also serves on the Board of Trustees for the GRAMMY Museum and the Pauley Pavilion Renovation Campaign Committee.
 
ELI has three components: the Writing Competition, a GRAMMY Week ELI luncheon featuring a prominent keynote speaker, and a Legal Seminar series. The ELI Writing Competition invites law students to write a 3,000-word paper on a compelling legal topic facing the music industry today. Past award-winning topics have featured issues germane and timely to the music industry including bootlegging, music sampling and litigation against peer-to-peer network users. The deadline to submit an online application is Jan. 2, 2012, at 11 a.m. PT. For complete contest rules, send an e-mail to eli@grammy.com or visit You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login.
 
The contest culminates with the winning student authors discussing their essays in a question-and-answer presentation at the prestigious ELI luncheon. Past luncheon keynote speakers have included Edgar Bronfman Jr., chairman and CEO of Warner Music Group; Sen. Barbara Boxer (D-Calif.); Clive Davis, chief creative officer of Sony Music Entertainment; Timothy J. Leiweke, president and CEO of AEG; will.i.am, GRAMMY Foundation Board member and frontman/producer of the multi-GRAMMY-winning group the Black Eyed Peas; and Strauss Zelnick, former president and CEO of BMG Entertainment, among others.
 
Once again, this year the Foundation added ELI Writing Competition workshops at prominent law schools around the country with the goal of helping students with their essays. ELI also continued its partnership this year with You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to allow students to upload their submissions directly over the Internet. Box.com's mission is to make it easy for individuals and businesses to access, manage and share all their content online.
 
For information on purchasing tables or tickets to the event, please call Loren Fishbein at
310.392.3777 or e-mail loren.fishbein@grammy.com.
 
The GRAMMY Foundation was established in 1989 to cultivate the understanding, appreciation and advancement of the contribution of recorded music to American culture — from the artistic and technical legends of the past to the still unimagined musical breakthroughs of future generations of music professionals. The Foundation accomplishes this mission through programs and activities that engage the music industry and cultural community as well as the general public. The Foundation works in partnership year-round with its founder, The Recording Academy, to bring national attention to important issues such as the value and impact of music and arts education and the urgency of preserving our rich cultural heritage. For more information, please visit You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login.

Box was founded on a simple, powerful idea: people should be able to access and share their content from anywhere. Since 2005, Box has helped more than nearly 6 million individuals, small businesses and Fortune 1000 companies do just that. We want to reinvent what businesses can do with their content through Box's cloud content management platform, made for a new kind of worker, a new kind of workplace and a new kind of IT.
 
 
MEDIA R.S.V.P. MANDATORY:
Christina Cassidy/The GRAMMY Foundation/310.392.3777/christina.cassidy@grammy.com
Hilary Ratner/GRAMMY Foundation/310.392.3777/hilary.ratner@grammy.com
 
 

Media Contacts:
Christina Cassidy
GRAMMY Foundation
310.392.3777
christina.cassidy@grammy.com
 
Hilary Ratner
GRAMMY Foundation
310.392.3777
hilary.ratner@grammy.com
 
Jaime Sarachit
The Recording Academy
310.392.3777
jaime.sarachit@grammy.com
 
ELI Program Contact:
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Thank you for this news Hesouttamylife,I saw it already and it seems that it's THE AWARDS "season time"  lolol/  !!!! Oscar's are near  8-) so who knows what surprises are waiting for us  penguin/  !!!!
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Re: Walgren and Brazil to receive award
January 14, 2012, 08:24:06 PM
Propofol is an anesthetic which is classified as medical supply equipment, you'd be hard pressed to find it classified even as a drug much less a prescription drug.

It is possible they are changing the wording since all this deal with Murray and MJ manslaughter trial but before all this came about Propofol was considered medical supply and nothing more. Loopholes, as tink said.

This is why it was used, seems to me.

Well, one of the reasons anyway.

But big bonus reason #1, it was perfectly LEGAL for Murray to have possession of Propofol in that house; purchase as much of it as he wanted, keep it at the office, at home, in the car, wherever, give it to his baby mamma, let MJ handle it, etc... because it is not a prescription drug, nor is it a controlled substance.

Propofol was the perfect substance for a WEIRD "death" in this law abiding hoax.

Now maybe there's some folks interested in trying the CYA approach to closing some of those loopholes at this late date since all this attention was cast its way by casually attaching some clever verbage, but Propofol is not covered under the classification "prescription drug". At least as late as August 2009, Propofol was listed as an anesthetic which was classified simply as medical supply.

They don't even take inventory of the stuff in hospitals, you realize. Prescription drugs are inventoried. You have to sign them out. That is not the case with Propofol, because it's always been considered just medical supply.

As far as the hoax, this doesn't concern me. Anyone can say anything they want and even print it in the news, we already know the truth.
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Re: Walgren and Brazil to receive award
January 14, 2012, 08:55:00 PM
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Propofol is an anesthetic which is classified as medical supply equipment, you'd be hard pressed to find it classified even as a drug much less a prescription drug.

You are wrong. You do realize that the link I posted that states that it is a prescription drug is a gov website and not some BS website?
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And even if you don't want to believe that Propofol is a prescription drug, I already told you he also gave him several benzos in high doses and Lorazepem is named as contributing to the cause of death. So there were other prescription drugs involved.

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But big bonus reason #1, it was perfectly LEGAL for Murray to have possession of Propofol in that house; purchase as much of it as he wanted, keep it at the office, at home, in the car, wherever, give it to his baby mamma, let MJ handle it, etc... because it is not a prescription drug, nor is it a controlled substance.

Wrong, he couldn't just do all those things with it, he in fact lied to the pharmacist about having a practice/clinic in California when in reality it was the apartment of his girlfriend. There would have been no need to lie if he just could have done with it whatever he wanted. As a doctor, it was legal to have it in his possession, but it wasn't legal to give it in a bedroom with no monitoring.

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They don't even take inventory of the stuff in hospitals, you realize. Prescription drugs are inventoried. You have to sign them out. That is not the case with Propofol, because it's always been considered just medical supply.

Post your source for that.
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Re: Walgren and Brazil to receive award
January 14, 2012, 09:00:27 PM
Oh and the government NEVER EVER fabricates a THING.

It was 100% legal. Review the list of charges?

I cannot post interviews done with doctors. There is knowledge off the internet. You can ask any doctor you like to verify that if you would like to look into it further.
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Re: Walgren and Brazil to receive award
January 14, 2012, 09:09:09 PM
Oh, I see, you don't have a source. But you do remember that it was a big issue at the trial that certain drugs, like Propofol, are locked away in password protected cabinets at hospitals?

And what exactly did the government "fabricate"? That website just states it's a prescription drug, why would it be important in any way to lie about that?

I don't need to review any charges, it's perfectly legal for doctors to have all kinds of meds in their possession, it's not legal for them to do anything illegal with them though.
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Re: Walgren and Brazil to receive award
January 14, 2012, 09:19:57 PM
I have used propofol for my job.  I don't know what it is like in the human medical field, but in the veterinary field, propofol has this on the vial:

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Federal law restricts this drug to use by or on the order of a licensed veterinarian.
which means it is a prescription drug for veterinarians by our definition of prescription drug.  It also has a DEA number, meaning only persons with a valid DEA license can have and distribute, meaning it is classified as a prescription drug (at least for the vet field) and not over the counter drug.  If it is classified as 'medical supply' in the human medical field, that is new to me, but in the vet field, it is a prescription drug, and was so before 2009.

I am not as familiar with it in human medical field, as my field is veterinary.  I have never heard it classified as medical supply.

Also, I agree there is lack of regulation of it (and loopholes).

But I am certainly interested in sources calling it medical supply :)
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Re: Walgren and Brazil to receive award
January 14, 2012, 09:25:13 PM
I wouldn't expect anyone to believe a word I say just because I said it. If I spark up your interest, go check it out, interview a doctor/nurse/resident, I'm telling you what I learned, take it or leave it.

Ps. password schmassword. Think about it.
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January 14, 2012, 09:30:34 PM
You made the claim, you have to back it up, just like I did with the things I said. And if you heard this on TV (how do you know that this doctor isn't controlled by the illuminati? Because he said what you wanted to hear?), it's also on the internet, so you could find a link if you'd try, everything is on the internet.

P.S. And I guess it means you heard this on TV, but you never bothered to cross check it with other sources, like looking it up on the internet.
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Re: Walgren and Brazil to receive award
January 14, 2012, 09:41:01 PM
Both doctors I interviewed are friends of mine and know I am a hoaxer. Why would they lie to me? They have no agenda, they have no prevailing opinion in regards to the hoax, but see you wouldn't know that because they aren't your friends. So if you're still curious about it Sarah31, and chose to disregard me as a wingbat, that is fine, but then I suggest you go find your own doctor to interview because the above is all I can offer you as far as PROOF.
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January 14, 2012, 09:43:30 PM
Ps. I should say "all I am prepared to offer you" because I probably could go scrape together a bunch of links and articles and sources if I was really that motivated, but it's not that important to me anymore to convince perma-skeptical people of things I already know to be true.
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