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Sarahli

Re: TIAI 11/14
November 14, 2010, 12:04:52 PM
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I believe now somewhere around 35%-40% alive the days when I have more hopes.
With everything that's going on, it's hard for me to have so much faith anymore.

Okay... then I don't really know what to tell you... maybe to look back at what brought you here in the first place. I think that you must reach a certainty on wheter Michael is alive or not.
I simply cannot have that certainity, Sarahli.Nor for dead, nor for alive. I think about things that show him alive and at the same time others that show him rather dead. So I simply cannot be black or white. I'm in between.That's why this redirect, as Gema says too, kinda shows me TS could have known in advance about what BN would stirr, but then I think- on which side? We don't know yet what are SONY's intentions and if they are not the bad guys anymore.And the horrible idea that SONY's tentacles could be spread all over trying to cover their crimes is still in my head. I don't know how to take it.

Yes but TS did not only predicted things related to Sony, this is the first time as far as I know. And what if Sony is involved... it has been said already I know but Michael had arguments with Mottola not the entire company for what it is. So it is not far-fetched to believe that Michael has a deal with Sony and for me the release of Breaking News just confirmed it... but I 100% believe that Michael is alive and I see things only from this perspective.
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Re: TIAI 11/14
November 14, 2010, 12:29:00 PM
I believe Sony is in on this, how could they not be?  When even the media seems to have figured out they've been punk'd, at least in some quarters.  If Sony is the bad guy, and the family think they're defrauding the fans by putting out songs that aren't all Michael, where are the law suits?? I think Sony is at least partly involved because they owe Michael for past mistakes, I think the same could be true of Oprah.  There is a good reason we had all the publicity from the Oprah interview, Breaking News controversy, the album cover packed with clues, all in such a short space of time. In my opinion the battles with Sony are all for show.
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Re: TIAI 11/14
November 14, 2010, 12:30:59 PM
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I believe Sony is in on this, how could they not be?  When even the media seems to have figured out they've been punk'd, at least in some quarters. If Sony is the bad guy, and the family think they're defrauding the fans by putting out songs that aren't all Michael, where are the law suits?? I think Sony is at least partly involved because they owe Michael for past mistakes, I think the same could be true of Oprah.  There is a good reason we had all the publicity from the Oprah interview, Breaking News controversy, the album cover packed with clues, all in such a short space of time. In my opinion the battles with Sony are all for show.

Exactly.
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We are here for you Michael and will always love you whatever happens.
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MissG

Re: TIAI 11/14
November 14, 2010, 12:34:45 PM
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Anna? Gema? I just have a question... do you believe that Michael is alive or not?

Alive, but still I need clarity about the business  ;)
Have you heard about  black mailing?
What made me doubt about a business with good intentions was the reactions of MJ´s nephews.

One side or the other are having interests that are not clear to me.

I understood all of the snippets being on the disection board in oreder to market the album with a 110% success, but I have my doubts.

At the end, MJ kids are the ones who will benefit I read, but in the mean time many more people will benefit also.

My doubt is if all of this "controversy" is happening because of money. So far, I see very little care for Michael´s legacy or name.
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Michael pls come back


"Why a four-year-old child could understand this hoax. Run out and find me a four-year-old child. I can't make head nor tail out of it"

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Re: TIAI 11/14
November 14, 2010, 12:36:41 PM
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I believe now somewhere around 35%-40% alive the days when I have more hopes.
With everything that's going on, it's hard for me to have so much faith anymore.

Okay... then I don't really know what to tell you... maybe to look back at what brought you here in the first place. I think that you must reach a certainty on wheter Michael is alive or not.
I simply cannot have that certainity, Sarahli.Nor for dead, nor for alive. I think about things that show him alive and at the same time others that show him rather dead. So I simply cannot be black or white. I'm in between.That's why this redirect, as Gema says too, kinda shows me TS could have known in advance about what BN would stirr, but then I think- on which side? We don't know yet what are SONY's intentions and if they are not the bad guys anymore.And the horrible idea that SONY's tentacles could be spread all over trying to cover their crimes is still in my head. I don't know how to take it.

Yes but TS did not only predicted things related to Sony, this is the first time as far as I know. And what if Sony is involved... it has been said already I know but Michael had arguments with Mottola not the entire company for what it is. So it is not far-fetched to believe that Michael has a deal with Sony and for me the release of Breaking News just confirmed it... but I 100% believe that Michael is alive and I see things only from this perspective.


I'm with you Sarahli.
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Re: TIAI 11/14
November 14, 2010, 12:36:51 PM
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Sarahli
_Anna_ wrote:
Sarahli wrote:
_Anna_ wrote:
I believe now somewhere around 35%-40% alive the days when I have more hopes.
With everything that's going on, it's hard for me to have so much faith anymore.

Okay... then I don't really know what to tell you... maybe to look back at what brought you here in the first place. I think that you must reach a certainty on wheter Michael is alive or not.
I simply cannot have that certainity, Sarahli.Nor for dead, nor for alive. I think about things that show him alive and at the same time others that show him rather dead. So I simply cannot be black or white. I'm in between.That's why this redirect, as Gema says too, kinda shows me TS could have known in advance about what BN would stirr, but then I think- on which side? We don't know yet what are SONY's intentions and if they are not the bad guys anymore.And the horrible idea that SONY's tentacles could be spread all over trying to cover their crimes is still in my head. I don't know how to take it.

Yes but TS did not only predicted things related to Sony, this is the first time as far as I know. And what if Sony is involved... it has been said already I know but Michael had arguments with Mottola not the entire company for what it is. So it is not far-fetched to believe that Michael has a deal with Sony and for me the release of Breaking News just confirmed it... but I 100% believe that Michael is alive and I see things only from this perspective.

I am totally in agreement with you Sarahli, the liberation of Breaking News, the cover of the album as she says trustno1, once again nothing of this is accidental. ;)
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Re: TIAI 11/14
November 14, 2010, 12:39:34 PM
Thank you bec and Paula.
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We are here for you Michael and will always love you whatever happens.
'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.'
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Re: TIAI 11/14
November 14, 2010, 12:45:21 PM
I think if we believe Michael is alive and Sony, Coca-Cola, Mars and many other businesses are in on it then they're all contributing to the hoax and so will get their "cut" of the profits. John McClain from what I have researched went to school with Jermaine and is a close family friend, he helped launch Janet's career and is regarded as a genius in the music industry for being able to turn anything he touched into gold.  He may be elusive as there are virtually no pictures on the net of him, but he was obviously someone MJ trusted and the family still trusts.  Someone that savvy with such an understanding of the business I don't believe would allow the family to be sold out in any way.  He knows the business too well, he's not going to let that happen.
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Re: TIAI 11/14
November 14, 2010, 02:07:09 PM
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Yes but TS did not only predicted things related to Sony, this is the first time as far as I know. And what if Sony is involved... it has been said already I know but Michael had arguments with Mottola not the entire company for what it is. So it is not far-fetched to believe that Michael has a deal with Sony and for me the release of Breaking News just confirmed it... but I 100% believe that Michael is alive and I see things only from this perspective.

Sony were also involved with the 2012 movie (TS redirected to the MJ parallels in the film over a week before the MJ parallels were made public) as well as the This Is It movie (Remember no RIP and BAM at the end!).
We also have the timely Make BeLIEve campaign!

In all Logic, Sony is part of the Hoax. I doubt that Sony Plc is involved, Sony is a publicly quoted company and being officially involved with the Hoax would simply be an unacceptable risk; however there is the possibility that at least one influential Sony Executive (most probably from within Sony Entertainment) is in the know and manipulating things from inside with MJ/ MJ team "guidance".  Another possibility is that NOBODY at Sony is in the Know and the Estate Executives (McClain or Branca) are stirring matters at will with their experience in the music industry and inside connections: Sony is in this case being manipulated.

Looking at TS with my beLIEvers hat on, He seems to have a "psychic capability in reading future Hoax events" ...and not only those that are Sony related!  In my eyes, TS is simply our guide through the Hoax.

If I change hat and put a non-beLIEvers fedora on, then I am left with no rational for TS actions.  If TS is on the "dark side" and Michael is gone, why placing the emphasis on a Hoax? What is there to be gained in getting people to investigate everything surrounding Michael, his life, his business...etc? I just cannot see any rational!

Thank You TS for this re-direct - You are the King of CONFUSION!  ;)

With L.O.V.E
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Re: TIAI 11/14
November 14, 2010, 02:15:39 PM
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Looking at TS with my beLIEvers hat on, He seems to have a "psychic capability in reading future Hoax events" ...and not only those that are Sony related! In my eyes, TS is simply our guide through the Hoax.

If you look at the situation this way- having psychic capability of predicting future, then that is something else, and knowing is another thing. Having psychic capability of predicting the future is based on instincts and somehow on 6th sense, not on facts. If you take it literarily.
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Re: TIAI 11/14
November 14, 2010, 02:19:35 PM
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Yes but TS did not only predicted things related to Sony, this is the first time as far as I know. And what if Sony is involved... it has been said already I know but Michael had arguments with Mottola not the entire company for what it is. So it is not far-fetched to believe that Michael has a deal with Sony and for me the release of Breaking News just confirmed it... but I 100% believe that Michael is alive and I see things only from this perspective.

Sony were also involved with the 2012 movie (TS redirected to the MJ parallels in the film over a week before the MJ parallels were made public) as well as the This Is It movie (Remember no RIP and BAM at the end!).
We also have the timely Make BeLIEve campaign!

In all Logic, Sony is part of the Hoax. I doubt that Sony Plc is involved, Sony is a publicly quoted company and being officially involved with the Hoax would simply be an unacceptable risk; however there is the possibility that at least one influential Sony Executive (most probably from within Sony Entertainment) is in the know and manipulating things from inside with MJ/ MJ team "guidance".  Another possibility is that NOBODY at Sony is in the Know and the Estate Executives (McClain or Branca) are stirring matters at will with their experience in the music industry and inside connections: Sony is in this case being manipulated.

Looking at TS with my beLIEvers hat on, He seems to have a "psychic capability in reading future Hoax events" ...and not only those that are Sony related!  In my eyes, TS is simply our guide through the Hoax.

If I change hat and put a non-beLIEvers fedora on, then I am left with no rational for TS actions. If TS is on the "dark side" and Michael is gone, why placing the emphasis on a Hoax? What is there to be gained in getting people to investigate everything surrounding Michael, his life, his business...etc? I just cannot see any rational!

Thank You TS for this re-direct - You are the King of CONFUSION!  ;)

With L.O.V.E

Certainly the King of Confusion indeed.

Re: the underlined part, TS also apparently has connections to the family, as TS has the power to influence what the brothers do or don't do with their Twitter accounts.

Re: the italicized part, I can't either. If anyone has any theories, please, by all means, thrown them out for us to chew on.
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Re: TIAI 11/14
November 14, 2010, 02:31:23 PM
The only thing that fits for me is that TS is Michael, or another very knowledgable humble open-minded secretary writing with Michael standing at his shoulder. Nothing else really fits. All other insiders, informers have crumbled and fallen away.
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Re: TIAI 11/14
November 14, 2010, 03:03:17 PM
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In the official version of Breaking News, I hear

1:34  fakin' fakin' breakin' the news.

I've realized that this TIAI redirect about the Orson Welles broadcast of War of the Worlds (The Greatest Hoaxes ever), was timed perfectly prior to Breaking News .  The War of the Worlds broadcast was done as a series of news bulletins about Martians landing in New Jersey.  Breaking News starts with news bulletins and was supposedly recorded in New Jersey.  The War of the Worlds broadcast made Orson Welles famous around the world and the question over the authenticity of Breaking News has people listening to and comparing Micheal Jackson's voice which promotes all his music not just this new album.

There is also controversy over the unauthorised use of the Prince symbol, just as there was when Paul Anka claimed ownership of the This is It song.  Ooops – it’s hard to believe Sony could be so careless. Key people at Sony have to be involved in the hoax and TS had to know what was going to happen with the song when this redirect was made – right?

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Re: TIAI 11/14
November 14, 2010, 04:52:53 PM
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Quote from: "_Anna_"
Quote from: "Sarahli"
Quote from: "_Anna_"
I believe now somewhere around 35%-40% alive the days when I have more hopes.
With everything that's going on, it's hard for me to have so much faith anymore.

Okay... then I don't really know what to tell you... maybe to look back at what brought you here in the first place. I think that you must reach a certainty on wheter Michael is alive or not.
I simply cannot have that certainity, Sarahli.Nor for dead, nor for alive. I think about things that show him alive and at the same time others that show him rather dead. So I simply cannot be black or white. I'm in between.That's why this redirect, as Gema says too, kinda shows me TS could have known in advance about what BN would stirr, but then I think- on which side? We don't know yet what are SONY's intentions and if they are not the bad guys anymore.And the horrible idea that SONY's tentacles could be spread all over trying to cover their crimes is still in my head. I don't know how to take it.

Yes but TS did not only predicted things related to Sony, this is the first time as far as I know. And what if Sony is involved... it has been said already I know but Michael had arguments with Mottola not the entire company for what it is. So it is not far-fetched to believe that Michael has a deal with Sony and for me the release of Breaking News just confirmed it... but I 100% believe that Michael is alive and I see things only from this perspective.

TS predicted a lot of things regarding the This Is It DVD.

Quote from: "TS"
I also predicted, more than a month before “This Is It” was seen by the public, that the MJ “resurrection” scene would not be at a funeral with MJ coming out of the casket; instead, I said it would be a graveyard scene, like original Thriller (see TIAI Revealed, Part 6).  This came true, with the graveyard and spider “resurrection” scene during Thriller 2.

Another prediction of mine was that “This Is It” would reveal the hoax.  And although the hoax was not revealed as blatantly as some of us were expecting, yet anyone who was paying attention did see the hoax revealed in the movie (lack of MJ R.I.P., or any mention of his death; Smooth Criminal hoaxed death; MJ statement after the credits; etc).  Furthermore, we still haven’t seen all of “This Is It”; the DVD & Blu-ray has more, specifically on Smooth Criminal (hoax death) & Thriller (resurrection)—and you can be sure that this home version will reveal the hoax to an even greater degree than the cinema version.  For more details on this rated “R” prediction, etc: see TIAI Revealed, Part 6.

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TIAI Revealed, Part 6: “This Is It” Movie Rating  (R20 - R28)

Part 6 here has to do with the movie, “This Is It”, and also statements that I made about the movie (with username S.T.U.D.Y.) before it came out.  I may repost those old S.T.U.D.Y. threads soon in this forum, with some updates, under the “Numbers Theory” section {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.

In addition to my 9-9-09 prediction, I made several other statements about “This Is It” weeks before it came out publicly.  Here are a few examples, all stated on 9-18-09; this was more than a month before the release of “This Is It”, and the old MJkit forum still has this thread available to read (dated 9-20-09, because it was reposted on MJkit a couple days after I posted it on MJHD; {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}

“Yes, this whole hoax and plan is for a bigger purpose than just exposing the media.  It is time for everyone to STUDY peace {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}: peace in our own lives, and peace in our world.”

“So if an MJ ‘resurrection’ is part of the plan and movie, what day would it be: … During the funeral wouldn’t even fit with the original Thriller, because the dead did not hop out of their caskets during a funeral—no, they came out of their graves. … ‘R’ = MJ Resurrection (9-9-09), MJ Return, MJ hoax Revealed!!! … Let’s see how many ‘R’ votes we can get between now and October 28 …”
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Re: TIAI 11/14
November 14, 2010, 04:59:32 PM
Quote from: "Sarahli"
Quote from: "_Anna_"
Quote from: "Sarahli"
Quote from: "_Anna_"
I believe now somewhere around 35%-40% alive the days when I have more hopes.
With everything that's going on, it's hard for me to have so much faith anymore.

Okay... then I don't really know what to tell you... maybe to look back at what brought you here in the first place. I think that you must reach a certainty on wheter Michael is alive or not.
I simply cannot have that certainity, Sarahli.Nor for dead, nor for alive. I think about things that show him alive and at the same time others that show him rather dead. So I simply cannot be black or white. I'm in between.That's why this redirect, as Gema says too, kinda shows me TS could have known in advance about what BN would stirr, but then I think- on which side? We don't know yet what are SONY's intentions and if they are not the bad guys anymore.And the horrible idea that SONY's tentacles could be spread all over trying to cover their crimes is still in my head. I don't know how to take it.

Yes but TS did not only predicted things related to Sony, this is the first time as far as I know. And what if Sony is involved... it has been said already I know but Michael had arguments with Mottola not the entire company for what it is. So it is not far-fetched to believe that Michael has a deal with Sony and for me the release of Breaking News just confirmed it... but I 100% believe that Michael is alive and I see things only from this perspective.

I'm not sure about that....



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