Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Hoax Investigation => General Hoax Investigation => Other Odd Things => Topic started by: Cross on July 26, 2010, 03:24:32 PM
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I talking about James Brown's family. One family member should get the most attention. There has been a lack of news about James Brown lately ever since the rumor that his body waa missing. That's going to change the next few months news about James Brown once again will be in the news that will tie in with the hoax. And no I'm not telling you that James Brown is alive. But do you think it was a coincidence that the information about Murray was also James Brown's doctor only came out after Michael's ''death''? Why hasn't anyone from the Brown family addressed those rumors? And do you really believe that James Brown is buried in his daugther's yard? Because he's not. What about the rumors whether or not James Brown was murdered? If you haven't heard those do alittle search. To answer the question how do I know before it is asked. I know because I know the Brown family whether or not I'm a family member or friend isn't important. But what I'm telling you is. I know what you are thinking another person messing with us. Well all I can say to that is wait and see.
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We'll wait and see. Still waiting for the news on his missing body, so I hope you are right.
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That missing body story was very odd and I will look into those rumors about his death possibly being a murder. I wouldn't be surprise. There's been quite a few deaths that have been odd pre and post Michael. Thanks for the heads up. I'll just wait and see and investigate a little.
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his body dead was on national tv 2 hours, nuff said :roll:
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I have considered that maybe the Michael autopsy was actually done on James Brown. No autopsy was done on Brown at the time of his death. The findings seemed inconsistent with Michael but maybe James Brown?
The bedroom was very warm, the heat was cranked (had the body been on ice).
The body tissues were saturated in propofol including the stomach contents but propofol has a short half-life, so something doesn't seem right there. Propofol wears off quickly when metabolized in a living body but not an already dead one.
The ambulance attendants said it was "old man" "balding" and he had been dead for "sometime". Maybe he had been dead for quite sometime...
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I have considered that maybe the Michael autopsy was actually done on James Brown. No autopsy was done on Brown at the time of his death. The findings seemed inconsistent with Michael but maybe James Brown?
The bedroom was very warm, the heat was cranked (had the body been on ice).
The body tissues were saturated in propofol including the stomach contents but propofol has a short half-life, so something doesn't seem right there. Propofol wears off quickly when metabolized in a living body but not an already dead one.
The ambulance attendants said it was "old man" "balding" and he had been dead for "sometime". Maybe he had been dead for quite sometime...
Sounds a bit far fetched
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I have considered that maybe the Michael autopsy was actually done on James Brown. No autopsy was done on Brown at the time of his death. The findings seemed inconsistent with Michael but maybe James Brown?
The bedroom was very warm, the heat was cranked (had the body been on ice).
The body tissues were saturated in propofol including the stomach contents but propofol has a short half-life, so something doesn't seem right there. Propofol wears off quickly when metabolized in a living body but not an already dead one.
The ambulance attendants said it was "old man" "balding" and he had been dead for "sometime". Maybe he had been dead for quite sometime...
Sounds a bit far fetched
yep...far fetched imo too...Jb was over 70 and black..and his nose didnt' look anything close to MJ s nose...even if peeps face change when dead, i think they could tell the difference
They said Mj looked old and bald but then on the ambulance pic, you see a young and rather "alive" MJ with hair. So to me it s simple as ABC: the pic is fake. The secourist must live in a cave if they didnt see the pic in the media. How come they never said it s a fake one? Cause they r on the hoax too..
No need to get JB s body out of the blue here 3 years after his death
Anyway i m really looking forward to the news u r talking bout@ OP
Hope J Brown rests in peace
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I have considered that maybe the Michael autopsy was actually done on James Brown. No autopsy was done on Brown at the time of his death. The findings seemed inconsistent with Michael but maybe James Brown?
The bedroom was very warm, the heat was cranked (had the body been on ice).
The body tissues were saturated in propofol including the stomach contents but propofol has a short half-life, so something doesn't seem right there. Propofol wears off quickly when metabolized in a living body but not an already dead one.
The ambulance attendants said it was "old man" "balding" and he had been dead for "sometime". Maybe he had been dead for quite sometime...
Sounds a bit far fetched
Maybe but some believe that Michael hoaxing his death is far fetched. I did say it was something I had considered. I wasn't presenting it like I know this for a fact.
We also have the same casket as James Brown, what if it just the same as but is actually "THE SAME" casket. Then Michael visited James Brown for hours at the funeral home and asked many questions about embalming and procedures etc.
I don't think that at this point when anything is possible, that it is at all that far fetched.
In all three of these cases (9-9-09, Halloween, and January): there was a realistic possibility of a bam—and especially the last two. Nevertheless, even though there was no bam, there were significant events which fit very well with the three “R” ratings. The 9-9-09 “Resurrection”: movie poster, movie 7 weeks later, and autopsy finalized (you need a dead body for an autopsy, so no resurrection until finalized).
http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/search.php?t=9763
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This might seem a little odd to all of you but I've been thinking about something for quite awhile now. We know that there are inconsistencies in the stories of how Murray came to be Michaels doctor. One says that AEG hired him and another says that Michael insisted on Murray. Now could it be that Michael knew that Murray was James Browns doctor and had suspicions about how he died? Maybe that is why he insisted on Murray so he could get to the truth about how James Brown died . We all know how much Michael loved him. IDK, just a thought.
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http://www.tmz.com/2010/03/12/james-brown-body-not-stolon-missing-grave-crypt-corpse/
Do people change clothes at their own funeral?
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Ok.. interesting theory about how the autopsy was on James Brown and not MJ.. but what about the vitiligo? MJs skin was white, James was black. Also the height... James was very short in comparison to MJ.
I like the theory and can see where it comes from... but it doesnt fit for me.
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Ok.. interesting theory about how the autopsy was on James Brown and not MJ.. but what about the vitiligo? MJs skin was white, James was black. Also the height... James was very short in comparison to MJ.
I like the theory and can see where it comes from... but it doesnt fit for me.
I don't have all the answers, I was just throwing this out there.
There has been questions about Michael's height and weight raised. I know that James Brown was about 5' 6" and have no idea if he had vitiligo or not.
When the Coroner visited the funeral home to take a hair sample from the body, it was covered with numerous sheets and towels. The coroner only viewed the top of the head and the hands and not the face. He said there was a "substance on the hair" and that he had to move a wig to get a hair sample.
There was no mention of discoloured nails in the autopsy but we know Michael had this.
Then there is the issue of lungs, there were 3 ailments that showed in the lungs and two of them are related to smoking. As far as I know Michael didn't smoke and anyone suffering from these would have a nagging cough, shortness of breath. They would not be able to sing and dance. I don't know if James Brown smoked cigarettes or anything else.
It could be a combination of a real autopsy on a body, with added bits, that are also from Michael's real physical condition, such as the vitiligo. I just find it odd that there are reports that James Brown's body is missing, an autopsy was never done on him and the autopsy for Michael doesn't fit him. With the same casket and how much Michael loved James Brown, it makes me wonder.
I just think it's possible that he arranged this autopsy on Brown because Brown also died under mysterious circumstances. There has been suggestions that Brown was murdered.
There was controversy about where James Brown was also to be laid to rest. I don't know but maybe it is James Brown in that crypt at Forest Lawn. It might be fitting in Michael's eyes to have his idol in such a "special' place. This could explain why the Jackson's haven't really visited Forest Lawn either.
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WOWWWWWWWWWWWWW interesting theory Serenitys_Dream I like it.
And we all know how much Michael loved and admired him.
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This also has me thinking about the prostrate medication mentioned in the autopsy, it is used to treat an enlarged prostrate which isn't unusual in older men.
An enlarged prostate means the gland has grown bigger. Prostate enlargement happens to almost all men as they get older. As the gland grows, it can press on the urethra and cause urination and bladder problems.
A small amount of prostate enlargement is present in many men over age 40 and more than 90% of men over age 80.
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/000381.htm
Brown was once diagnosed with prostate cancer, which was successfully treated with surgery.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Brown
Treatment for this cancer is partial or full removal of the prostrate gland. This depends on the size and number of tumours; depending on how far it has spread. If Brown only had a partial removal done then his prostrate could have still been enlarged and he would have been taking the medication to treat that. With this in the wiki on Brown it just feels odd to me, like the medication is pointing to this.
There is also the unexplained abominable surgery scar mentioned in the autopsy (not related to prostate surgery) but the appendix was intact and the fact that no scars on the scalp where mentioned, yet Michael was burned in the Pepsi accident and there would be scars.
I received a second degree burn on my leg from the tailpipe of a motorcycle many years ago. I still have a very noticeable scar and virtually no hair grows there. It isn't something that would be missed in an autopsy.
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This might seem a little odd to all of you but I've been thinking about something for quite awhile now. We know that there are inconsistencies in the stories of how Murray came to be Michaels doctor. One says that AEG hired him and another says that Michael insisted on Murray. Now could it be that Michael knew that Murray was James Browns doctor and had suspicions about how he died? Maybe that is why he insisted on Murray so he could get to the truth about how James Brown died . We all know how much Michael loved him. IDK, just a thought.
I posted the same thoughts a while back in another thread. Perhaps revenge is part of this. But as someone pointed out to me, in order for Michael to be alive, Murray must be part of the hoax.
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Please correct me if I am wrong. If I understood correctly is that someone stole the body of James Brown, and they are pretending that it is MJbody they are doing autopsy on? Why would they do that? You cannot got and exhume a body without the family's permition, consent. I guess anything is possible with MJ. love to you all
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http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m ... _18047623/ (http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1355/is_n15_v89/ai_18047623/)
This is also a weird story.
I don't know there is something wrong with it..
And this
http://www.mediatakeout.com/22860/explo ... soned.html (http://www.mediatakeout.com/22860/explosive_insiders_claim_james_brown_did_not_die_naturally__he_was_poisoned.html)
And this
http://www.singersroom.com/news/2680/Ja ... ate-Battle (http://www.singersroom.com/news/2680/James-Brown-Family-Member-Killed-Sources-Blame-Hit-Admist-Estate-Battle)
:shock: :shock:
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http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1355/is_n15_v89/ai_18047623/
This is also a weird story.
I don't know there is something wrong with it..
And this
http://www.mediatakeout.com/22860/explo ... soned.html (http://www.mediatakeout.com/22860/explosive_insiders_claim_james_brown_did_not_die_naturally__he_was_poisoned.html)
That is so sad. She was young.
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http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1355/is_n15_v89/ai_18047623/
This is also a weird story.
I don't know there is something wrong with it..
And this
http://www.mediatakeout.com/22860/explo ... soned.html (http://www.mediatakeout.com/22860/explosive_insiders_claim_james_brown_did_not_die_naturally__he_was_poisoned.html)
Yes, I have read them and I do believe that Murray was the doctor of Brown and his wife.
Michael, James Brown & wife all mysterious circumstances surrounding these cases.
As Michael is alive, maybe there is an effort to expose Murray's past deeds, a revenge element.
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http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1355/is_n15_v89/ai_18047623/
This is also a weird story.
I don't know there is something wrong with it..
And this
http://www.mediatakeout.com/22860/explo ... soned.html (http://www.mediatakeout.com/22860/explosive_insiders_claim_james_brown_did_not_die_naturally__he_was_poisoned.html)
Yes, I have read them and I do believe that Murray was the doctor of Brown and his wife.
Michael, James Brown & wife all mysterious circumstances surrounding these cases.
As Michael is alive, maybe there is an effort to expose Murray's past deeds, a revenge element.
Well Michael was very close with James Brown, maybe he found out that Murray had something to do with his death, and now MJ is framing Conrad Murray, by faking his death. Probably the fbi is behind it, protecting Michael. This can be a theory.
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There is no way that they could have used JB body in place of MJ's for an autopsy. JB has been gone for a few yrs and he has already been embalmed. I don't think that there would be any medication left in the body for them to get and analyze. The only other thing I can think that they could do is have someone on the inside of the coroners office say that they did the autopsy on MJ and then switch the names on the report to reflect MJ's. They would have to have inside help for this. But, then again there would be a need for a body, so with the help of the insider they could have used a person that was already there and just used JB's autopsy report.
The theories are great that were listed, but it just seems far fetched for me.
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With all due respect to the O.P's initial post, this is another ' I know something you dont know' type of posting ( 2 posts only - take note). Meanwhile it takes someone to come here and say that there are hundreds of young fans out there who are getting more and more upset about the latest revelations and claims that 'someone knows something we will hear soon'. Its all good if thats true or turns out to be the case as many things are a mystery, but I have to say that I am very sad about some of the claims of 'knowledge'' regarding Michael or anyone remotely connected to him and the damage it has done to people. I feel very sorry for fans right now because if there is a garden path certain people can pave, they will and lead people right up it to find nothing at the end. Please be careful of what you post and be very mindful of the sensitivity of the fans as some things lately have just not been fair to some of them.
Meanwhile, it will be interesting to see if this thread has any creedence. Apologies for not seeming over enthusiastic about the 'James Brown news' right now.
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http://www.tmz.com/2010/03/12/james-brown-body-not-stolon-missing-grave-crypt-corpse/
Do people change clothes at their own funeral?
WOAH - I hadn't noticed that before. Why would the media put a different outfit on him? That's just not right...my first thought was the casket, by the way. This is too disturbing for me. I hope it has a good ending. I don't like "thrillers" like our beloved does. We'll wait and see.
Edit - The person who posted this posted this message (Cross) doesn't think Michael is alive? Ummm...why wait so long to say anything? James Brown's body story was a while ago. I'm confused.
Hello everyone I'm from Georgia. I've followed this hoax ever since last year. I have zero doubt that Michael is alive.
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Listen to me guys what I'm saying is within the next few months information about James Brown will come out that will fit in with the hoax. It wasn't an coincidence that Murray is connected to James Brown and Michael. I promise you that my words will show to be true.
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There is no way that they could have used JB body in place of MJ's for an autopsy. JB has been gone for a few yrs and he has already been embalmed. I don't think that there would be any medication left in the body for them to get and analyze. The only other thing I can think that they could do is have someone on the inside of the coroners office say that they did the autopsy on MJ and then switch the names on the report to reflect MJ's. They would have to have inside help for this. But, then again there would be a need for a body, so with the help of the insider they could have used a person that was already there and just used JB's autopsy report.
The theories are great that were listed, but it just seems far fetched for me.
Forensic pathology: principles and practice
By David Dolinak, Evan W. Matshes, Emma O. Lew
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I am going to wait and see what news stories come out in the next few months, as Cross suggested ;)
It is my belief that this is all tied in with the hoax, as are a number of other unexplained deaths in recent times. I know the majority of people don't share my views about others having hoaxed their deaths as well as Michael, but that doesn't matter. One day I hope we'll find out for sure and that will be my "Oh Happy Day" :D
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Listen to me guys what I'm saying is within the next few months information about James Brown will come out that will fit in with the hoax. It wasn't an coincidence that Murray is connected to James Brown and Michael. I promise you that my words will show to be true.
Cross - you've said in your introduction that you don't believe Michael is alive. Can you expound on why you believe that? It's very interesting that this is brought up and I can't say I do or don't believe you because I don't know. But if you could share more information it would be appreciated. Thanks.
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Listen to me guys what I'm saying is within the next few months information about James Brown will come out that will fit in with the hoax. It wasn't an coincidence that Murray is connected to James Brown and Michael. I promise you that my words will show to be true.
Cross - you've said in your introduction that you don't believe Michael is alive. Can you expound on why you believe that? It's very interesting that this is brought up and I can't say I do or don't believe you because I don't know. But if you could share more information it would be appreciated. Thanks.
Cross said like this: "death" and: the hoax. That is implying that they believe Michael may be alive.
I talking about James Brown's family. One family member should get the most attention. There has been a lack of news about James Brown lately ever since the rumor that his body waa missing. That's going to change the next few months news about James Brown once again will be in the news that will tie in with the hoax. And no I'm not telling you that James Brown is alive. But do you think it was a coincidence that the information about Murray was also James Brown's doctor only came out after Michael's ''death''? Why hasn't anyone from the Brown family addressed those rumors? And do you really believe that James Brown is buried in his daugther's yard? Because he's not. What about the rumors whether or not James Brown was murdered? If you haven't heard those do alittle search. To answer the question how do I know before it is asked. I know because I know the Brown family whether or not I'm a family member or friend isn't important. But what I'm telling you is. I know what you are thinking another person messing with us. Well all I can say to that is wait and see.
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Thanks Serenitys Dream - I take the comment as meaning just the opposite. I don't know why. But you are probably right so I'll go with it. I like your interpretation much better than mine anyway :)
Listen to me guys what I'm saying is within the next few months information about James Brown will come out that will fit in with the hoax. It wasn't an coincidence that Murray is connected to James Brown and Michael. I promise you that my words will show to be true.
Cross - you've said in your introduction that you don't believe Michael is alive. Can you expound on why you believe that? It's very interesting that this is brought up and I can't say I do or don't believe you because I don't know. But if you could share more information it would be appreciated. Thanks.
Cross said like this: "death" and: the hoax. That is implying that they believe Michael may be alive.
I talking about James Brown's family. One family member should get the most attention. There has been a lack of news about James Brown lately ever since the rumor that his body waa missing. That's going to change the next few months news about James Brown once again will be in the news that will tie in with the hoax. And no I'm not telling you that James Brown is alive. But do you think it was a coincidence that the information about Murray was also James Brown's doctor only came out after Michael's ''death''? Why hasn't anyone from the Brown family addressed those rumors? And do you really believe that James Brown is buried in his daugther's yard? Because he's not. What about the rumors whether or not James Brown was murdered? If you haven't heard those do alittle search. To answer the question how do I know before it is asked. I know because I know the Brown family whether or not I'm a family member or friend isn't important. But what I'm telling you is. I know what you are thinking another person messing with us. Well all I can say to that is wait and see.
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WOAH - I hadn't noticed that before. Why would the media put a different outfit on him? That's just not right...my first thought was the casket, by the way. This is too disturbing for me. I hope it has a good ending. I don't like "thrillers" like our beloved does. We'll wait and see.
The media didn't, his family did...
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http://www.tmz.com/2010/03/12/james-brown-body-not-stolon-missing-grave-crypt-corpse/
Do people change clothes at their own funeral?
WOAH - I hadn't noticed that before. Why would the media put a different outfit on him? That's just not right...my first thought was the casket, by the way. This is too disturbing for me. I hope it has a good ending. I don't like "thrillers" like our beloved does. We'll wait and see.
Edit - The person who posted this posted this message (Cross) doesn't think Michael is alive? Ummm...why wait so long to say anything? James Brown's body story was a while ago. I'm confused.
Hello everyone I'm from Georgia. I've followed this hoax ever since last year. I have zero doubt that Michael is alive.
Is it normal / common to change the clothes of the corpse - celebrity or public person - whose funeral with the casket open to the public is held for several days before burial.
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Hi! Are we sure or do we have any proof that Murray was James Brown's doc ? Any interviews or articles? Thanks! Dont bash me :oops: because ummmmm guys? If this is true all I can say is....... :o :o :o :o :o Coincidence I think NOT!
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Serenitys_Dream, As always excellent analysis, Cross thank you for bringing this topic to discuss once again, gives much that to think
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Hi! Are we sure or do we have any proof that Murray was James Brown's doc ? Any interviews or articles? Thanks! Dont bash me :oops: because ummmmm guys? If this is true all I can say is....... :o :o :o :o :o Coincidence I think NOT!
Well, I found nothing that Conrad Murray was a doctor of James Brown. If this is true it was not public knowledge. :| According to publications, in 2006 Murray has provided emergency assistance to Paris (Mike and the children were staying at a hotel, if I remember correctly, in Las Vegas). Since then, they became "friends." One version that exists is that Mike insisted AEG hire Murray. :? :roll:
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Hi! Are we sure or do we have any proof that Murray was James Brown's doc ? Any interviews or articles? Thanks! Dont bash me :oops: because ummmmm guys? If this is true all I can say is....... :o :o :o :o :o Coincidence I think NOT!
DOCTOR 'I FEEL GOOD!' JAMES-JACKO LINK
By ISABEL VINCENT and JAMES FANELLI
Last Updated: 9:17 AM, August 3, 2009 Posted: 3:35 AM, August 2, 2009
Michael Jackson's shady doctor was also a personal physician to the drug-addled Godfather of Soul James Brown, according to sources.
Dr. Conrad Murray, who is under investigation for Jackson's death, is among a coterie of "feel good" physicians with free-wheeling prescription pads who catered to celebrities in the 1990s, according to a former law-enforcement source.
"James Brown and Michael Jackson were inseparable and they used the same 'safe doctors' -- doctors who would get them anything they wanted," Brown's longtime producer and assistant Jacque Hollander told The Post. "If James Brown wanted drugs, he knew he could get them from these safe doctors in Dallas, Houston, Las Vegas and Los Angeles."
The Motown legend died of congestive heart failure in 2006 but was reportedly battling an addiction to painkillers and PCP at the time. Hollander said Brown's wife, Adrienne, was also Murray's patient when she died 10 years earlier in LA under mysterious circumstances. Her death came two days after she underwent liposuction at an unlicensed spa not connected to Murray, according to police reports.
The immediate cause of Adrienne Brown's death was PCP intake coupled with heart disease, according to her death certificate obtained by The Post.
Charles Bobbit, Brown's personal assistant and business manager in the last four years of his life, said he knew who Murray was before Jackson's death.
"Mr. Brown may have been sneaking around behind my back with this doctor," Bobbit said, but he added that he never saw Brown use drugs.
Murray has been under intense scrutiny since Jackson died June 25 of cardiac arrest and investigators removed drugs from the King of Pop's Bel Air estate.
In the last two weeks, LA police, the DEA and local law enforcement have also raided Murray's Houston practice and his Las Vegas home and office as part of their investigation. The doctor has also reportedly admitted to investigators that he injected Jackson with the potent sedative Propofol shortly after midnight on the day of the death.
Scandals have followed Murray since he was a student at Meharry Medical College in Nashville in 1985.
That year, Murray was arrested for "fraudulent breach of trust" after his then-girlfriend Patricia Mitchell made a complaint against him, according to Nashville court records. The records do not indicate the reasons behind the charges, but Murray was released on a $2,000 bond and the case was eventually dismissed.
At the time of the bust, Murray was dating and had a daughter with Mitchell, even though he was married to Zufan Tesfai, according to records.
Murray's four-year marriage to Tesfai, a pharmacist who now lives in New Jersey, ended in 1988, a year before he graduated medical school.
He later remarried, but those nuptials didn't stop him from earning a reputation as a doctor of love. The Post first reported a month ago that Murray had sired six children with five different women by 1998.
His brushes with the law have also continued. In 1994, he was arrested for domestic violence against one of his baby mamas, Janice Adams, while he was a cardiology fellow at the University of Arizona at Tucson, according to ABC News. He was later acquitted.
Bad medicine also seems to run in his family. His dad, Dr. Rawle Andrews, had his medical privileges restricted for five years in 1994 by the Texas Medical Board because he was prescribing drugs that were nontherapeutic in nature, according to documents.
Additional reporting by Meredith Pierce in Nashville and Tori Richards in Los Angeles.
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/item_lJ761eLfXRzq49MxHWupvK
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Dr. Murray's Legal Worries
August 3, 2009 | Michael Jackson
more legal trouble for dr. conrad murray
Conrad Murray has more than one arrest in his past -- "Extra" has obtained a police report from when Michael Jackson's former doc was nabbed in Nashville in 1985 on charges of a fraudulent breach of trust.
TMZ claims today that the doctor -- who could face manslaughter charges in Michael's death -- also kept a second storage unit in Las Vegas, apart from the unit that raided by feds.
Investigators believe Murray may have been storing propofol in different locations. Anesthesiologist Bita Nasseri tells "Extra" that just because the doc was a cardiologist does not mean he knew how to properly administer the drug. "As an anesthesiologist I'm shocked... we don't take medical remedies into our homes and use them as home remedies."
Jackson wasn't the only star treated by Dr. Murray -- he was also a personal physician to the late James Brown. New reports claim that Jackson and Brown were inseparable and used the same "safe doctors" who could allegedly get the singers anything they wanted.
Brown died of heart failure in 2006.
http://extratv.warnerbros.com/2009/08/dr_murrays_legal_worries.php#ixzz0uqdpQuIV
Notice Warner bros once again in the link too... TMZ's parent company also linked to Kingdom Entertainment and the Saudi Royal Family
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Listen to me guys what I'm saying is within the next few months information about James Brown will come out that will fit in with the hoax. It wasn't an coincidence that Murray is connected to James Brown and Michael. I promise you that my words will show to be true.
Cross - you've said in your introduction that you don't believe Michael is alive. Can you expound on why you believe that? It's very interesting that this is brought up and I can't say I do or don't believe you because I don't know. But if you could share more information it would be appreciated. Thanks.
Introduction:
Hello from the United States
by Cross » Mon Jul 26, 2010 6:48 pm
Hello everyone I'm from Georgia. I've followed this hoax ever since last year. I have zero doubt that Michael is alive.Cross
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Listen to me guys what I'm saying is within the next few months information about James Brown will come out that will fit in with the hoax. It wasn't an coincidence that Murray is connected to James Brown and Michael. I promise you that my words will show to be true.
Cross - you've said in your introduction that you don't believe Michael is alive. Can you expound on why you believe that? It's very interesting that this is brought up and I can't say I do or don't believe you because I don't know. But if you could share more information it would be appreciated. Thanks.
Introduction:
Hello from the United States
by Cross » Mon Jul 26, 2010 6:48 pm
Hello everyone I'm from Georgia. I've followed this hoax ever since last year. I have zero doubt that Michael is alive.Cross
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Yes, it seems to me they are saying "I have no doubt about it, Michael is alive."
There maybe should have been a comma "I have zero doubt, that Michael is alive"
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Serenitys_Dream, you were smarter, I'm really not very good for research. :oops:
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But which Dr. Murray did James Browne have? What a tangled web.
viewtopic.php?f=17&t=5168&hilit=white+conrad+murray (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=5168&hilit=white+conrad+murray)[attachment=0:1lx888ax]01265672773212000000416852_0[1].jpg[/attachment:1lx888ax]
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God, the mysteries involved in this "death" Mike's increasing every day and seems to be a net, a ball, is very complicated ... Will we ever know the whole truth one day? Or keep as JFK, John Lennon, Marilyn Monroe, Princess Diana? :? :roll: :?:
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I THINK THIS IS ANOTHER INSIDER LOOKING FOR ATTENTION,I'M SURE THAT THIS IS ALL BS....NOTHING WILL COME OUT.... :evil: :evil: :evil:
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But which Dr. Murray did James Browne have? What a tangled web.
viewtopic.php?f=17&t=5168&hilit=white+conrad+murray (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=5168&hilit=white+conrad+murray)[attachment=0:2fh3i1is]01265672773212000000416852_0[1].jpg[/attachment:2fh3i1is]
This "white" guy is a lawyer on Murray's legal team.
Matthew B. Alford
http://www.houstoncriminallaw.com/
But the funny thing is that Murray has his on page on their website...
There are pictures of him there and testimonials from patients and friends. It is all very strange.
http://houstoncriminallaw-pressroom.com/ed-chernoff-quotes-about-doctor-conrad-murray/
Check out the brown box on the right side for the links
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Thank you Cross.
No doubt anything doing with Murray will be watched. The tie in was noticed several months ago and thank you Serenity Dreams for finding the article.
Now if we just can figure out what is true and what is a lie!!
Yikes!
I watched the 30th celebration again tonight and I got to thinking awful thoughts about what happened the next day on 9-11-2001.
What if something like that was threatened for the O2? Many thousands would die. The first concerts were re-scheduled, excuses made, what if they just didn't have a way to trust their sources and what if it is a situation like all the other crap when the bureocrats (sp) get involved
So Everything needs to be watched. There is a very good reason for all this to happen, if we can all stay out of the straight jackets long enough to learn it all. 8-) 8-) 8-) :?
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ill keep my eyes peeled ;)
thanks Cross.
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If Cross is right, I think it could have been a revenge plot. Remember the double theory? The double that died for him. Maybe that's what ha did, to revenge JB's death. Maybe he is somehow responsible for JB's death and since they had nothing on him, not enough anyway, MJ staged his death to put this CM and others lie him behind bars. That would explain the "body" being stole as well. Maybe it was insiders that stole it so no one else does before, and destroy whatever evidence there is left in JB. They might use him against Murray. And he could get help fro authorities for this too. It would explain the LAPD, UCLA, Coroners, etc involvement.
:shock: :shock: :shock: I just reread what I wrote and my head is spinning. Too complicated...It is a little far fetched, I admit.... We'll just have to wait and see what happens...if anything.
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If Cross is right, I think it could have been a revenge plot. Remember the double theory? The double that died for him. Maybe that's what ha did, to revenge JB's death. Maybe he is somehow responsible for JB's death and since they had nothing on him, not enough anyway, MJ staged his death to put this CM and others lie him behind bars. That would explain the "body" being stole as well. Maybe it was insiders that stole it so no one else does before, and destroy whatever evidence there is left in JB. They might use him against Murray. And he could get help fro authorities for this too. It would explain the LAPD, UCLA, Coroners, etc involvement.
:shock: :shock: :shock: I just reread what I wrote and my head is spinning. Too complicated...It is a little far fetched, I admit.... We'll just have to wait and see what happens...if anything.
But how to explain that Murray is freely exercise their function? I see no effort from the family, police, government / FBI, the media specialist to investigate further, questions about the case. Rather, it seems that there is an unprecedented indifference even of friends, etc. .. :? :roll: :?:
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If Cross is right, I think it could have been a revenge plot. Remember the double theory? The double that died for him. Maybe that's what ha did, to revenge JB's death. Maybe he is somehow responsible for JB's death and since they had nothing on him, not enough anyway, MJ staged his death to put this CM and others lie him behind bars. That would explain the "body" being stole as well. Maybe it was insiders that stole it so no one else does before, and destroy whatever evidence there is left in JB. They might use him against Murray. And he could get help fro authorities for this too. It would explain the LAPD, UCLA, Coroners, etc involvement.
:shock: :shock: :shock: I just reread what I wrote and my head is spinning. Too complicated...It is a little far fetched, I admit.... We'll just have to wait and see what happens...if anything.
But how to explain that Murray is freely exercise their function? I see no effort from the family, police, government / FBI, the media specialist to investigate further, questions about the case. Rather, it seems that there is an unprecedented indifference even of friends, etc. .. :? :roll: :?:
Maybe they are doing their work trying to bring him down but we just don't know about it. After all, the work to bring him down is "backstage", not in the media. Bragging about it won't bring him down.
It is strange that he can still practice medicine. That is beyond me...
And as I said before, this is just a theory based on what Cross said. A "what if". I'm not saying it's how it is.
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...and if the FBI or other special agents and government bodies are involved, everything would have to be very hush hush
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I talking about James Brown's family. One family member should get the most attention.
Which family member?
Why don't you tell everything you know?
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It is strange that he can still practice medicine. That is beyond me...
I have been shocked by this too since he first went back to work. But now it just came to my mind that maybe the authorities want to get more evidence, as Murray probably continues to practice the same way as before... But on the other hand, I don't trust the authorities that much - I mean that they work that hard... But I don't know the U.S. authoroties well... Anyway, it's just an idea.
And of course, we also find it very possible that Murray is in the hoax, don't we?
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This might seem a little odd to all of you but I've been thinking about something for quite awhile now. We know that there are inconsistencies in the stories of how Murray came to be Michaels doctor. One says that AEG hired him and another says that Michael insisted on Murray. Now could it be that Michael knew that Murray was James Browns doctor and had suspicions about how he died? Maybe that is why he insisted on Murray so he could get to the truth about how James Brown died . We all know how much Michael loved him. IDK, just a thought.
I don't think Michael hoaxing his death would be the only way to get to know the truth about James Brown's death and Murray...
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http://www.nydailynews.com/news/2009/06 ... tions.html (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/2009/06/28/2009-06-28_fascinated_by_death_spent_5_hrs_with_james_body_had_many_questions.html)
Gossip..but when its true
How handy!
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This might seem a little odd to all of you but I've been thinking about something for quite awhile now. We know that there are inconsistencies in the stories of how Murray came to be Michaels doctor. One says that AEG hired him and another says that Michael insisted on Murray. Now could it be that Michael knew that Murray was James Browns doctor and had suspicions about how he died? Maybe that is why he insisted on Murray so he could get to the truth about how James Brown died . We all know how much Michael loved him. IDK, just a thought.
I don't think Michael hoaxing his death would be the only way to get to know the truth about James Brown's death and Murray...
That's not what I meant. I was saying that Michael may have been suspicious about how James Brown died and he knew that Murray was Browns doctor which is why he insisted on Murray to get evidence against him. Michael loved and admired James Brown and I think if he had enough reason to believe there was any foul play involved he probably would have done anything to get proof.
I didn't mean it was a reason for the hoax, I was saying it was a reason to hire Murray.
Love and Blessings
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This might seem a little odd to all of you but I've been thinking about something for quite awhile now. We know that there are inconsistencies in the stories of how Murray came to be Michaels doctor. One says that AEG hired him and another says that Michael insisted on Murray. Now could it be that Michael knew that Murray was James Browns doctor and had suspicions about how he died? Maybe that is why he insisted on Murray so he could get to the truth about how James Brown died . We all know how much Michael loved him. IDK, just a thought.
I don't think Michael hoaxing his death would be the only way to get to know the truth about James Brown's death and Murray...
That's not what I meant. I was saying that Michael may have been suspicious about how James Brown died and he knew that Murray was Browns doctor which is why he insisted on Murray to get evidence against him. Michael loved and admired James Brown and I think if he had enough reason to believe there was any foul play involved he probably would have done anything to get proof.
I didn't mean it was a reason for the hoax, I was saying it was a reason to hire Murray.
Love and Blessings
Oh, okay, I see. Sorry!
This hoax is so complex...
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http://www.nydailynews.com/news/2009/06/28/2009-06-28_fascinated_by_death_spent_5_hrs_with_james_body_had_many_questions.html
Gossip..but when its true
How handy!
Yes - that article was really interesting. Michael - always the student, getting every detail juuuuuust riiiiight.
Reid was surprised when Jackson began asking about the preparation of the remains, questions such as people seldom pose.
Jackson had become a self-proclaimed resident of Neverland, yet he showed uncommon ease with what even manifestly mature adults have trouble facing.
"Most people shy away when it comes to death," Reid said. "They would be trying to head the opposite way. It was amazing to me he would talk about it the way he was. It's just out of the ordinary."
And Jackson was clearly not asking just to ask.
"He wouldn't ask a question unless he thought about it," Reid said. "That's how precise he was. Whatever he asked he was very interested in."
Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/2009/06/28 (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/2009/06/28)/2009-06-28_fascinated_by_death_spent_5_hrs_with_james_body_had_many_questions.html#ixzz0uw9wiBu6