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Title: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Andrea on February 11, 2012, 07:12:04 PM
Whitney Houston Dead at 48
11 minutes ago BY TMZ STAFF

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Whitney Houston died this afternoon ... a rep for the singer told the Associated Press.

Houston won two Emmy Awards, six Grammy Awards, 30 Billboard Music Awards, 22 American Music Awards during her record-breaking career. Her album "Whitney" was the first female album to ever debut at #1 on the Billboard Charts. She has sold 200 albums world wide.

Houston holds an Honorary Doctorate in Humanities from Grambling State University in Louisiana.

Houston had one child, Bobbi Kristina, with husband Bobby Brown. Houston and Brown were married from 1992-2007.

Story developing ...

http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/11/whitney-houston-dead/




Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: paula-c on February 11, 2012, 07:17:20 PM
God that sadness,.. i can't believe
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 11, 2012, 07:17:51 PM
OMG!! is this true? or another celebrity death hoax?

I hope it's a sick joke!!
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Andrea on February 11, 2012, 07:18:25 PM
I'm in shock right now.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Adi on February 11, 2012, 07:20:00 PM
I wonder if this is yet another of those hoaxes about celebrities dying that have been rampant the last few years???

Weird, TMZ have had a few articles on their site recently about Whitney and now this.

If it isn't another one of those hoaxes then it is very sad.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Tink on February 11, 2012, 07:24:28 PM
LA Times, nada!
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Tink on February 11, 2012, 07:27:56 PM
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I wonder if this is yet another of those hoaxes about celebrities dying that have been rampant the last few years???

Weird, TMZ have had a few articles on their site recently about Whitney and now this.

If it isn't another one of those hoaxes then it is very sad.

I call it BS, thus far! Don't believe it, until the fat lady sings.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: trublu on February 11, 2012, 07:29:15 PM
I feel really sad right now :'(
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: empyreal on February 11, 2012, 07:29:25 PM
: (((( I just saw it on the news. I can't believe it.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Adi on February 11, 2012, 07:30:41 PM
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I wonder if this is yet another of those hoaxes about celebrities dying that have been rampant the last few years???

Weird, TMZ have had a few articles on their site recently about Whitney and now this.

If it isn't another one of those hoaxes then it is very sad.

I call it BS, thus far! Don't believe it, until the fat lady sings.

Yep - something has tripped my suspicion radar about this.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 11, 2012, 07:32:04 PM
I don't know about the main stream media yet, but so far La Toya seems to confirm Whitney's death by posting this on her twitter:
Quote from: LaToya
I can't fathom the fact that #whitneyhouston has died! My heart goes out 2 her mother, daughter & her love ones. #Whitney U will be missed!

@cnn I'm distraught over the news that Whitney Houston has died! She was the most INCREDIBLE talent. What another sad day for the world.


TMZ @TMZ ------)) 34 min ago:
"According to TMZ sources, Houston died at the Beverly Hilton Hotel.
A police crime lab vehicle was seen outside the hotel just moments ago (see below).
So far, the details surround Houstin's death are unclear.
The singer famously battled drug addiction for years."
  - http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/11/whitney-houston-dead/#.TzcWUoFWp3A
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: ~Souza~ on February 11, 2012, 07:35:11 PM
 OMG! OMG! OMG! OMG! OMG! WTF??
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: LOVESoldier28 on February 11, 2012, 07:36:38 PM
Didn't  Michael, Jermaine and the Jackson family know Whitney Houston? It seems like another person connected to Michael either has died or been "killed"
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: andy1andy2 on February 11, 2012, 07:37:30 PM
Went searching and I just finished reading an article on ABC News about Whitney's Reps. denying this rumor,they say she is very much alive and at home....... Maybe this is all part of Michael's plan coming together...Hmmmm.....
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Andrea on February 11, 2012, 07:38:52 PM
This is all very suspicious.  I don't know what has happened but I have a terrible feeling that her death is neither natural nor her own fault.  If this isn't a hoax then she was killed, I'm almost sure of it.


TMZ did a little story on her earlier today, calling her "ageless" - it was one of their good genes vs good docs polls.

http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/11/whitney-houston-good-genes-or-good-docs/

What is going on???
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: katooooooo on February 11, 2012, 07:41:42 PM
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Went searching and I just finished reading an article on ABC News about Whitney's Reps. denying this rumor,they say she is very much alive and at home....... Maybe this is all part of Michael's plan coming together...Hmmmm.....

it's from semptember 13...I saw this article too
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: YouRnotAlone7 on February 11, 2012, 07:44:03 PM
Wait....another celebrity death from drugs?  Is every single celebrity a drug addict?  I think not.  If this is true..that Whitney is dead...I would say it's VERY suspicious.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Andrea on February 11, 2012, 07:45:35 PM
I guess she was either going to or was at Clive Davis's huge pre-Grammy party that he has every year.

It was the Clive Davis party a couple years back that Chris Brown allegedly beat Rihanna, on the way home afterwards I believe.  I don't buy that story either, I think some bad sh*t went down either at or near the party, where other people were involved, I did a post a long time ago about it.

Something's going on.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 11, 2012, 07:46:09 PM
Taj Jackson @tajjackson3
"Still can't believe the news. Utterly speechless. One of the most amazing voices ever. RIP Whitney Houston."


What is going on here???  WTF?? On the one hand we have TMZ and the Jacksons posting R.I.P. twits and at the same time on ABC News ,Whitney's Reps. deny this rumor ??  smiley_spider bangbang
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: LoveShyMichael on February 11, 2012, 07:48:25 PM
Looks like back in September she was also pronounced dead. But then it was retracted.
Also noticed article said she died at hotel, this afternoon, & crime scene lab vehicle was parked out in front of hotel.

Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: paula-c on February 11, 2012, 07:50:28 PM
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This is all very suspicious.  I don't know what has happened but I have a terrible feeling that her death is neither natural nor her own fault.  If this isn't a hoax then she was killed, I'm almost sure of it.


TMZ did a little story on her earlier today, calling her "ageless" - it was one of their good genes vs good docs polls.

http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/11/whitney-houston-good-genes-or-good-docs/



What is going on???





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What is going on Harvey? :?

Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: andy1andy2 on February 11, 2012, 07:50:43 PM
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Went searching and I just finished reading an article on ABC News about Whitney's Reps. denying this rumor,they say she is very much alive and at home....... Maybe this is all part of Michael's plan coming together...Hmmmm.....
Oh my bad sorry.


it's from semptember 13...I saw this article too
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: mjj4ever777 on February 11, 2012, 07:52:05 PM
This is on CNN right now. They say that her reps. have confirmed that she died...The King of Pop and now the Queen of pop?? I wish that this wasn't true, but if it is, may she Rest In Peace. God Bless her family, especially her daughter Bobby...so sad.

The first thing my hubby said was "is this another hoax"? That is the thing that really bothers me, we never know what to believe and what not to believe, anymore! too many of Michael's friends have passed away in the last 2.5 years...I don't know what to think...sigh. It's just sad :(

I hope everyone here is well and I send you all my LOVE! Please family, LOVE each other, because you never know what may happen tomorrow. Blessings to all! <3

Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: hesouttamylife on February 11, 2012, 07:52:39 PM
The stars are tweeting their condolescences  OMG!  If this is true it is very sad and a bit odd because I just saw Whitney a week or so ago doing an interview.  She looked great and was talking about playing the mother in a new prodution of Sparkle.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Aidan_81 on February 11, 2012, 07:53:15 PM
OMG she's gone..
So young!! shame on me I thought she's over 50.. OMG gone too soon!

was she.. sorry wasn't following her life this year, was she ill? taking drugs?
god it's not overdose is it.

 this is so sad and shocking! so young.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Andrea on February 11, 2012, 07:54:33 PM
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This is all very suspicious.  I don't know what has happened but I have a terrible feeling that her death is neither natural nor her own fault.  If this isn't a hoax then she was killed, I'm almost sure of it.


TMZ did a little story on her earlier today, calling her "ageless" - it was one of their good genes vs good docs polls.

http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/11/whitney-houston-good-genes-or-good-docs/



What is going on???





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I copied it before it was taken down.

Whitney Houston Good Genes or Good Docs?
2/11/2012 12:25 AM PST BY Johnny Lopez

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Ageless Whitney Houston don't crack.

Here's the nubile 22-year-old after winning her first Grammy award in 1986 (left) -- and 26 years later, the youthful 48-year-old pro at a pre-Grammy event in L.A. on Thursday (right).

It's not right, but it's okay.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 11, 2012, 07:54:47 PM
Mariah Carey @MariahCarey
"She will never be forgotten as one of the greatest voices to ever grace the earth."
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Aidan_81 on February 11, 2012, 07:56:37 PM
How sad, we indeed lost so many great music ppl these last 2 years  :(

it's like music is leaving, all my beloved musicians go and go. Too soon.

Ppl say she was fine like yesterday. So unexpected.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Love_is_all_u_need on February 11, 2012, 07:58:11 PM
Another bloody sad loss of a wonderful and talented human being.  Absolutely devastated.  Way too young.   :-\
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Loes on February 11, 2012, 08:00:45 PM
This is shocking news!
RIP Whitney
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: paula-c on February 11, 2012, 08:01:26 PM
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This is all very suspicious.  I don't know what has happened but I have a terrible feeling that her death is neither natural nor her own fault.  If this isn't a hoax then she was killed, I'm almost sure of it.


TMZ did a little story on her earlier today, calling her "ageless" - it was one of their good genes vs good docs polls.

http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/11/whitney-houston-good-genes-or-good-docs/



What is going on???





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I copied it before it was taken down.

Whitney Houston Good Genes or Good Docs?
2/11/2012 12:25 AM PST BY Johnny Lopez

(http://ll-media.tmz.com/2012/02/10/0210-whitney-genes-1.jpg)

Ageless Whitney Houston don't crack.

Here's the nubile 22-year-old after winning her first Grammy award in 1986 (left) -- and 26 years later, the youthful 48-year-old pro at a pre-Grammy event in L.A. on Thursday (right).

It's not right, but it's okay.






! Well done Andrea ! lolol/
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: hesouttamylife on February 11, 2012, 08:03:35 PM
This news is hard to digest.  She was one of the greatest voices of all times.  I will pray for Bobbi Kristina and Whitney’s family to find strength and peace in what is bound to be some very emotional times.  God, I don’t believe this  :cry:
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 11, 2012, 08:05:47 PM
Another friend of Michael's dies in such a short period of time since his "death" and possible cause of death, one more time: DRUGS? smiley_spider
WTF!! all the celebrities are drug addicts?? come on!! something smells bad here!!

Whitney dead on 11.02.2012 (1+1+2+2+1+2=9)
At 48 [4+8 = 12]

And just like in Michael's case, the media announced her death , a death hoax 5-6 months before she is really pronounced dead? is this a "deja-vu" or what is it???
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: LoveNeedsExpression on February 11, 2012, 08:10:25 PM
TMZ was the first (I think) to report the news. And she allegedly died at the Beverly Hilton Hotel. The same hotel where MJ's 911 call was placed. That's weird.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: MJFan4444 on February 11, 2012, 08:10:49 PM
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Another friend of Michael's dies in such a short period of time since his "death" and possible cause of death, one more time: DRUGS? smiley_spider
WTF!! all the celebrities are drug addicts?? come on!! something smells bad here!!

Whitney dead on 11.02.2012 (1+1+2+2+1+2=7)
At 48 [4+8 = 12]

And just like in Michael's case, the media announced her death , a death hoax 5-6 months before she is really pronounced dead? is this a "deja-vu" or what is it???

That's one of the first things I picked up on too.  So much similar to Michael's down to the early death hoax.

I just cannot believe this.  Stunned is just too much of an understatement. 
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: scorpionchik on February 11, 2012, 08:12:32 PM
SUCKS, SUCKS, SUCKS, VERY SAD, SAD SAD. I JUST CAN'T GET SOMETIMES WHAT GOD THINKS.
RIP DARLING!   :'(

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HoR0brHi2oI&feature=results_video&playnext=1&list=PL314B34D0FBFB68B3[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SAVyI8NedY&feature=related[/youtube]

WHEN I SAW THAT AD ON TV, I GOT TEARS AND SADNESS, BUT WHEN I HEARD THE SAME THING ABOUT MICHAEL, I FELT NOTHING BUT "IT IS  NOT TRUE... HE IS NOT DEAD, THAT'S NOT POSSIBLE". 
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: hesouttamylife on February 11, 2012, 08:18:56 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wireStory/whitney-houston-superstar-records-films-dies-15565063#.TzcgNZgqM01 (http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wireStory/whitney-houston-superstar-records-films-dies-15565063#.TzcgNZgqM01)

Here’s another story in which they mention Whitney’s appearance during the 2001 Michael Jackson Tribute concert.  I knew Michael’s name would come up sooner or later, especially since they are alluding that she died as a consequence of drugs.  :?  God what is going on with all of Michael’s friends and associates? If this keep up, in 4 years when he returns everyone will be gone.   :?
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 11, 2012, 08:26:33 PM
God forgive me, but I didn't believe in the Whitney dead news since second 1.


Call me crazy or hoax-fried but I believe this is all part of MJ's hoax-scenario! if they announce later on that she also died of a heart attack , then it's gonna be clear as daylight to me!

The only possible way that this isn't true and that they are all dead, is that this is someone else's scenario! (read TPTB/Illuminati), otherwise... I can't explain all these similarities and coincidences!! this is all crazy!!  :shock:
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 11, 2012, 08:30:07 PM
Tito Jackson on twitter :shock: smiley_spider

"CAN YOU FEEL IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I HAVE BEEN BUSY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
just had to pop in i and say hey
my prayers go out for Whitney and her family
what a talent
had to make time to say that
she did michael"s 30th in new york in 2001
she wowed me--
i will be back soon--promise
much love-peace and happiness"


hummmm.... yeah I can feel it!!!
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: mrbigshot on February 11, 2012, 08:33:37 PM
Such a devastating loss for the entertainment industry and for her family as well. It is incredibly difficult to even comprehend. She epitomized pop music with her profoundly distinctive voice and influenced a great deal of people. She was an incredible inspiration for those who felt crippled by life's debilitating pessimism, but her angelic voice resonated through others with optimism, and it is because of her songs that we found such serenity and liberation from the sorrows within ourselves. Gone too soon, and the possible culprit could be drugs. But let's not see this as opportunity to question the horrendous atrocity that plagues a vulnerable soul. Many people fall victim to this drug disease. but It's important to establish, during this time of grief, that everybody is human and we all should be entitled to compassion and understanding.

 It's not about the drugs, but the point which is really prevalent and that is why people like this have to resort to such antics. They should be suffocated and drenched in love so these drug addictions never surface, and to allow individuals to be able to hold on to life's pleasantries. this death is a sobering reminder that we should continue to show immense life for even the most subtle of circumstances. treasure every moment you have with one another, if it is a stranger, and show them that you hold them in high regard. because every human has difficulties in their lives. But do not for once ever take for granted the power of a friendly compliment or kind gesture because neglect is the ultimate murder. by ignoring love we are barricading our future for a better tomorrow. I don't know why Whitney had to die so young, but this could have been prevented if we just learn to love and continue to show attentiveness to the people around us. listen profoundly, when someone has something to say, take it to heart, because it should be  personal. of course this isn't Just about whitney, but I'm speaking for everybody who has struggled to see the light in their hearts and have fallen on hard times. It sickens me to see that people no longer hold each otherup right in times of distress. but we all know that we can do it if we try hard to make it happen.

this hoax has opened our hearts and minds. we can't let the evils of the world formulate. we have to learn how to live and love with one another. just like a brother or a sister, a father, a mother, an uncle. everybody is apart of our family. people react negatively because we neglect and refuse to show them the love.
 

Spread the L.O.V.E then...


R.I.P whitney.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: ForstAMoon on February 11, 2012, 08:33:39 PM
it hurts so much

the day of 2012/02/12 will be remembered
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Andrea on February 11, 2012, 08:38:37 PM
TMZ keeps adding to the article:

Quote

Our sources tell us a member of Whitney's entourage found her in her room at the Beverly Hilton hotel ... and called hotel security -- who then dialed 911. When paramedics arrived Houston was found unresponsive.

We're told police arrived to the scene within minutes and fire was already there on an unrelated call. According to our sources, paramedics performed CPR but it did not work and she was pronounced dead at 3:55 PM.

Our sources say there were no obvious signs of foul play, but BH PD detectives have begun a full investigation. We're told she was ID'ed by family and friends.

It's all very déjà vu  for me.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 11, 2012, 08:42:23 PM
Bobby Brown "Crying Fits" Over Whitney But Trying to Perform Concert
http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/11/bobby-brown-crying-whitney-houston-dead/#.Tzcms4FWp3B

(http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/3093/0211bobbybrownex1.jpg)

Bobby Brown is distraught and "in and out of crying fits" ... after getting the news that Whitney Houston is dead (http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/11/whitney-houston-dead/#.TzcmqIFWp3A) -- but his New Edition band mates are by his side trying to console him.

New Edition has a concert tonight in Mississippi -- and believe it or not sources close to the group tell TMZ ... not only will New Edition go on as scheduled, but as of now Bobby is also planning to perform.

We're told Bobby is going to try to get through the entire show.

Bobby and Whitney had an infamously tumultuous 15 year marriage.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: voiceforthesilent on February 11, 2012, 08:46:18 PM
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Tito Jackson on twitter :shock: smiley_spider

"CAN YOU FEEL IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I HAVE BEEN BUSY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
just had to pop in i and say hey
my prayers go out for Whitney and her family
what a talent
had to make time to say that
she did michael"s 30th in new york in 2001
she wowed me--
i will be back soon--promise
much love-peace and happiness"


hummmm.... yeah I can feel it!!!

That comment from Tito seems a little odd, to say the least. And rather dry and impersonal.

I don't know if this is true or not but my first thought was, not another person close to Michael. Not another person who still had many years left to mentor and contribute to this world. It's all rather surreal and even though I thought she was an amazing talent her death hasn't shook me to the core like Michael's did (before I beLIEved).

At the same time I find the fact that she was at the BH hotel coincidental but what was more noticeable to me was all of Michael's circle tweeting their RIP's, even Paris....maybe I shouldn't find that odd but I kind of do.

If this is true may God bring comfort and strength to her family.

Blessings.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: voiceforthesilent on February 11, 2012, 08:49:02 PM
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Bobby Brown "Crying Fits" Over Whitney But Trying to Perform Concert
http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/11/bobby-brown-crying-whitney-houston-dead/#.Tzcms4FWp3B

(http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/3093/0211bobbybrownex1.jpg)

Bobby Brown is distraught and "in and out of crying fits" ... after getting the news that Whitney Houston is dead (http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/11/whitney-houston-dead/#.TzcmqIFWp3A) -- but his New Edition band mates are by his side trying to console him.

New Edition has a concert tonight in Mississippi -- and believe it or not sources close to the group tell TMZ ... not only will New Edition go on as scheduled, but as of now Bobby is also planning to perform.

We're told Bobby is going to try to get through the entire show.

Bobby and Whitney had an infamously tumultuous 15 year marriage.

What about getting home to his daughter...the one who just lost her mother? I don't understand, clearly.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 11, 2012, 08:53:57 PM
Dionne Warwick & Cissy Houston Whitney Seemed Fine Just Before Death
http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/11/whitney-houston-dead-dionne-warwick/#.Tzco9YFWp3A

Dionne Warwick and Cissy Houston spoke with Whitney Houston by phone just before she died and say Whitney seemed fine ... TMZ has learned.

(http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/5176/0211dionnewarwickwhitne.jpg)

Whitney's mother, Cissy Houston, spoke with her daughter 25-30 minutes before she died and nothing seemed unusual ... sources tell TMZ. We're told they talked about attending the Clive Davis pre-Grammy party.

Dionne Warwick, Whitney's cousin, called as well ... several hours before Whitney died ... to make sure they were sitting at the same table at Clive's party. And again ... there were no signs of trouble.

The people in touch with Dionne say she is inconsolable adding, "She is an absolute mess."

As for Cissy, we're told she is "hysterical."
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: hesouttamylife on February 11, 2012, 09:04:41 PM
Sunday night’s grammy change.  Jennifer Hudson to pay tribute to Whitney Houston.   :cry:
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 11, 2012, 09:07:00 PM
David Copperfield on twitter
"Shocked at the passing of Whitney Houston.She'd always come to my shows with her mom.A friend and one of the great talents of our century."

orianthi on twitter
Rip Whitney Houston so sad :(



Whitney Houston: Watch Her Final Performance
http://www.toofab.com/2012/02/11/whitney-houston-death-dead-last-performance-video/


Interesting the title of her last performed song :
"Yes Jesus Loves Me"


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_yiCIow6fI&feature=player_embedded#![/youtube]


Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: BeTheChange on February 11, 2012, 09:09:24 PM
I am in complete and utter shock.  This is so very sad, weird and surreal.  I feel so sorry for her daughter and family.  May God watch over them in their tough moments ahead.

R.I.P. Whitney....you added such beauty to this world.

You will be missed.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsbVUCoku3E[/youtube]

With L.O.V.E. always.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Aidan_81 on February 11, 2012, 09:10:00 PM
Can't get over how sudden it was once again.
These deaths look fated. It's same pattern, no?
Seems like fate they can't escape. Who knows, Whitney maybe had
premonition, they often do.
 :(
such a tragedy.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Love4Michael on February 11, 2012, 09:12:20 PM
At this moment in time...I just want to focus on a very beautiful and powerful voice.  People had very divergent opinions on "The Bodyguard" but this song moved me...and I think it always will.

God...please lay your loving hand on Whitney's soul and those of her family and friends as well...give them strength.


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPHCThqqt0s[/youtube]
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Andrea on February 11, 2012, 09:17:19 PM
I just watched that video too Love4, a few minutes ago.  The Bodyguard is one of my favourite movies.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 11, 2012, 09:18:47 PM
on twitter - Harvey Levin @HarveyLevinTMZ
"Just learned that Whitney was heavily partying last night ..."



Whitney Houston 'Partied Heavily' Last Night
http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/11/whitney-houston-dead-partied/#.Tzcu44FWp3A

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Whitney Houston "partied heavily" at the Beverly Hilton hotel with a group of friends ... hotel staff tell TMZ.

We're told Whitney and her friends were in the bar for a time and the group was drinking and very loud. Our sources say even though the hotel is busy with all the Grammy festivities, Whitney and her group stood out because they were so boisterous.

Again, it's too early to know what caused her death.

Houston was found dead today at the Beverly Hilton. She was 48.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: neversaynever on February 11, 2012, 09:23:39 PM
God... I wish TMZ would stop just for once and respect her. Who cares what she did last night. The fact is we have lost a legend, a mother, a daughter.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: paula-c on February 11, 2012, 09:24:05 PM
Perhaps we will hear that the cause of death was drug,.. or prescription drugs :-\
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 11, 2012, 09:26:22 PM
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Tito Jackson on twitter :shock: smiley_spider

"CAN YOU FEEL IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I HAVE BEEN BUSY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
just had to pop in i and say hey
my prayers go out for Whitney and her family
what a talent
had to make time to say that
she did michael"s 30th in new york in 2001
she wowed me--
i will be back soon--promise
much love-peace and happiness"


hummmm.... yeah I can feel it!!!

That comment from Tito seems a little odd, to say the least. And rather dry and impersonal.

[...]
At the same time I find the fact that she was at the BH hotel coincidental but what was more noticeable to me was all of Michael's circle tweeting their RIP's, even Paris....maybe I shouldn't find that odd but I kind of do.[....]
Yes, very odd message from Tito, especially the part with "Can you feel it!!!!!!!!!!!!"
Also it's very strange that many of the Jackson family posted twits immediately after TMZ article! laToya, Tito, Paris, Taj.... And from what I could learn... Whitney was working on her comeback album! Another similarity to Michael and Elvis cases!
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Shamone Jackson on February 11, 2012, 09:50:42 PM
Well, they've been talking about it on all the major networks.  I guess it's true.  RIP Ms. Houston.  :cry:
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 11, 2012, 09:51:39 PM
This news is so shocking, and when you add all the oddities that already occured, well... I can't be sure now whether this is a hoax or the truth...
Either way, may GOD bless her soul (http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Amour/coeur_rose.gif)

This is one of my favorite songs!

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxZD0VQvfqU[/youtube]
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: alfarle on February 11, 2012, 10:09:28 PM
Is Hollywood TV affiliated with TMZ? Just wondering bc the last video I watched on Hollywood TV was of Whitney singing "Jesus loves me" with Kelly Price then all of these accusations that Whitney was apparently cutting herself and had blood on one of her legs after this performance. They also showed clips of her chewing the paparazzi out. I wish they would have just LEFT HER ALONE!!!!!! It's so hurtful and sad. She is and always be an angel. :(I just can't believe it.....
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: alfarle on February 11, 2012, 10:11:19 PM
It's also hurtful to hear these media outlets comparing her(Whitney Houston) death to MJ's.....Kinda makes me wonder.....Naw....I'm still a beLIEver....just thinking....what if?
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: alfarle on February 11, 2012, 10:13:33 PM
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Tito Jackson on twitter :shock: smiley_spider

"CAN YOU FEEL IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I HAVE BEEN BUSY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
just had to pop in i and say hey
my prayers go out for Whitney and her family
what a talent
had to make time to say that
she did michael"s 30th in new york in 2001
she wowed me--
i will be back soon--promise
much love-peace and happiness"


hummmm.... yeah I can feel it!!!

That comment from Tito seems a little odd, to say the least. And rather dry and impersonal.

[...]
At the same time I find the fact that she was at the BH hotel coincidental but what was more noticeable to me was all of Michael's circle tweeting their RIP's, even Paris....maybe I shouldn't find that odd but I kind of do.[....]
Yes, very odd message from Tito, especially the part with "Can you feel it!!!!!!!!!!!!"
Also it's very strange that many of the Jackson family posted twits immediately after TMZ article! laToya, Tito, Paris, Taj.... And from what I could learn... Whitney was working on her comeback album! Another similarity to Michael and Elvis cases!


Hmmmmm.... :?: :?: :?:I noticed how dry Tito sounded too. And Paris didn't really say much either....maybe Whitney was really before her time idk. But she carried on as well...not much reference to Whitney .
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: loveratheart4mj on February 11, 2012, 10:20:54 PM
My heart breaks again. This news is so sad :(:(:(
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 11, 2012, 10:22:10 PM
And step by step the case repeats !


Police Seek Search Warrant in Death Investigation
http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/11/whitney-houston-dead-search-warrant/#.Tzc8bYFWp3B

What will be the next  2 news? heart attack and murder!? Then it's HIStory repeating!! identical to Michael!

Sorry but this story is so similar from the beginning till now, I just can't help noticing! it's so blatant!
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: skyways on February 11, 2012, 10:24:49 PM
Oh God Almighty(((  such sad news-((  my prays and heart go out for her family.  RIP to impecable talent...
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: alfarle on February 11, 2012, 10:28:54 PM
You know what?! I'm starting to inquire if the media had something to do with this bc PRIOR TO, I was getting email news notices from blackplanetnews.com making statements like "is Whitney Houston suicidal?!" . They just wouldn't leave her alone! Not only that, but also news stories saying that she was broke and on her way to being homeless. Something is definitely shady ....
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 11, 2012, 10:30:38 PM
O_o

tks for adding that up, alfarle ! ;)
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: hesouttamylife on February 11, 2012, 10:31:29 PM
I am stunned and shocked that Clive Davis has decided to go on with his grammy pre-party downstairs in the same hotel where Whitney’s body still remains lifeless in her room on the 4th Floor.  :shock: These bloaks in the business are heartless  bangbang  How can you dance and drink and laugh and party under these circumstances?  I don’t get it.  :?
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: hesouttamylife on February 11, 2012, 10:36:59 PM
Maybe Michael sent her an invitation to come join him at the Heartbreak Hotel until things get better.  I’m wishful thinking but it makes me feel a little bit better somehow.  respect/  What the hell is going on in the industry?  It seems they want us to believe that the median lifespan for a mega star is somewhere between 20 and 50.  Not a very encouraging picture.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: mjfansince4 on February 11, 2012, 10:43:35 PM
i'm in shock. utter shock. whitney houston and michael jackson were the two cassette tapes i listened to so much that the actual tape broke. RIP whitney.

i can't help but shake this feeling that something is wrong about this. something is not right. i don't know what it is, but it's a nagging gut feeling that there's more to this story than what we will hear
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: alfarle on February 11, 2012, 11:07:57 PM
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O_o

tks for adding that up, alfarle ! ;)

No problem:)
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 11, 2012, 11:12:21 PM
Ok, time for a Whitney death - news RECAP -
just to see the line of oddities/similarities in relation to Michael's "death"

1.
September 13th, 2011 [ 9+1+3+2+1+1=17 ; 1+7 = 8 ] - Whitney Houston's rep issued a shocked denial today to counter reports that the singer/actress has died  (http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/story?id=102477&page=1#.TzceE4FWqwc) (just like it happened with that Sun article about Michael having 6 months to live on December 2008)

2. TMZ is the first to have announced Whitney's death on February 11th, 2012 [2+1+1+2+1+2 = 9] (just like in Michael's case with TMZ being the first to announce it!). She died at 48 [4+8 = 12]

3. Although the cause of death is yet unknown, we are reminded of Whitney's problem with drugs! (WTF!! all the celebrities are drug addicts?? come on!! Whitney is just another friend of Michael's that mysteriously dies in such a brief period since his "death").
Something smells bad here!! The only possible way that this isn't true and that they are all dead, is that this is someone else's scenario! (read TPTB/Illuminati), otherwise... I can't explain all these similarities and coincidences!! this is all crazy!!

4. Several members of the Jackson family start twitting immediately after TMZ's article. Out of them all the most odd was Tito's twit:
"CAN YOU FEEL IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I HAVE BEEN BUSY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
just had to pop in i and say hey
my prayers go out for Whitney and her family
what a talent
had to make time to say that
she did Michael's 30th in new york in 2001
she wowed me--
i will be back soon--promise
much love-peace and happiness"

5. Mariah Carey, Orianthi, David Copperfield post their RIP messages on twitter too.

6. TMZ updates the initial article with this info : "She died at the Beverly Hilton Hotel. A police crime lab vehicle was seen outside the hotel[...]" and then TMZ continues to post various other articles on Whitney...

7. Whitney was working on her comeback album! Another similarity to Michael and Elvis cases!

8. And step by step the case repeats ! TMZ informs that: Police Seek Search Warrant in Death Investigation (http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/11/whitney-houston-dead-search-warrant/#.Tzc8bYFWp3B)
What will be the next  2 news? heart attack and murder!? Then it's HIStory repeating!! identical to Michael! Sorry but this story is so similar from the beginning till now, I just can't help noticing! it's so blatant!

9. @alfarle mentioned also was getting email news notices from blackplanetnews.com making statements like "is Whitney Houston suicidal?!" . They just wouldn't leave her alone! Not only that, but also news stories saying that she was broke and on her way to being homeless. (Just like in michael's case when they were spreading rumors of him dying and being broke and all that B.S.!)
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: alfarle on February 11, 2012, 11:12:47 PM
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I am stunned and shocked that Clive Davis has decided to go on with his grammy pre-party downstairs in the same hotel where Whitney’s body still remains lifeless in her room on the 4th Floor.  :shock: These bloaks in the business are heartless  bangbang  How can you dance and drink and laugh and party under these circumstances?  I don’t get it.  :?

Money over a life....it doesn't matter to some. That's so disrespectful...and so sad.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: alfarle on February 11, 2012, 11:16:47 PM
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Ok, time for a Whitney death - news RECAP -
just to see the line of oddities/similarities in relation to Michael's "death"

1.
September 13th, 2011 [ 9+1+3+2+1+1=17 ; 1+7 = 8 ] - Whitney Houston's rep issued a shocked denial today to counter reports that the singer/actress has died  (http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/story?id=102477&page=1#.TzceE4FWqwc) (just like it happened with that Sun article about Michael having 6 months to live on December 2008)

2. TMZ is the first to have announced Whitney's death on February 11th, 2012 [2+1+1+2+1+2 = 9] (just like in Michael's case!)
She died at 48 [4+8 = 12]

3. Although the cause of death is yet unknown, we are reminded of Whitney's problem with drugs! (WTF!! all the celebrities are drug addicts?? come on!! Whitney is just another friend of Michael's that mysteriously dies in such a brief period since his "death").
Something smells bad here!! The only possible way that this isn't true and that they are all dead, is that this is someone else's scenario! (read TPTB/Illuminati), otherwise... I can't explain all these similarities and coincidences!! this is all crazy!!

4. Several members of the Jackson family start twitting immediately after TMZ's article. Out of them all the most odd was Tito's twit:
"CAN YOU FEEL IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I HAVE BEEN BUSY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
just had to pop in i and say hey
my prayers go out for Whitney and her family
what a talent
had to make time to say that
she did Michael's 30th in new york in 2001
she wowed me--
i will be back soon--promise
much love-peace and happiness"

5. Mariah Carey, Orianthi, David Copperfield post their RIP messages on twitter too.

6. TMZ updates the initial article with this info : "She died at the Beverly Hilton Hotel. A police crime lab vehicle was seen outside the hotel[...]" and then TMZ continues to post various other articles on Whitney...

7. Whitney was working on her comeback album! Another similarity to Michael and Elvis cases!

8. And step by step the case repeats ! TMZ informs that: Police Seek Search Warrant in Death Investigation (http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/11/whitney-houston-dead-search-warrant/#.Tzc8bYFWp3B)
What will be the next  2 news? heart attack and murder!? Then it's HIStory repeating!! identical to Michael! Sorry but this story is so similar from the beginning till now, I just can't help noticing! it's so blatant!

9. @alfarle mentioned also was getting email news notices from blackplanetnews.com making statements like "is Whitney Houston suicidal?!" . They just wouldn't leave her alone! Not only that, but also news stories saying that she was broke and on her way to being homeless. (Just like in michael's case when they were spreading rumors of him dying and being broke and all that B.S.!)

Great observation! :) I was just thinking that there was some numerology behind it too. But I kinda h8 math and couldn't really figure it out to be exact. lol
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: alfarle on February 11, 2012, 11:21:15 PM
By ALL MEANS....no disrespect.... But this link is exactly what I'm talking about in reference towards the media and their slander. :

http://hellobeautiful.com/gossip-news/sweet-sweetback/is-whitney-houston-trying-to-kill-herself/?omcamp=EMC-CVNL

I believe they are the most SHADY and evil....liars!

I just look at the date and it's a day before her death! Wow...
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 11, 2012, 11:29:29 PM
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By ALL MEANS....no disrespect.... But this link is exactly what I'm talking about in reference towards the media and their slander. :

http://hellobeautiful.com/gossip-news/sweet-sweetback/is-whitney-houston-trying-to-kill-herself/?omcamp=EMC-CVNL

I believe they are the most SHADY and evil....liars!
I just look at the date and it's a day before her death! Wow...

OMGGGG!!!! Did you see the pic below the article??? Whitney with PRINCE ??? OMG!! and did you see all that PURPLE color over that site !?? and Prince's PURPLE outfit? We're definitely looking at a HOAX!!!

(http://img571.imageshack.us/img571/7735/whitneyandprince.jpg)


@alfarle : you're amazing! thanks again for this info!!
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 11, 2012, 11:32:49 PM
Whitney Houston Found Dead in the Bathtub
http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/11/whitney-houston-dead-search-warrant/#.Tzc_uIFWp3C

(http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/6982/0211whitneyhosutonex8.jpg)

Beverly Hilton hotel employees tell TMZ ... Whitney Houston was found dead in the bathtub of her room.

As we previously reported, a member of Whitney's entourage discovered her unresponsive and called hotel security, who then called 911.

We're told police arrived to the scene within minutes and fire was already there on an unrelated call. Paramedics performed CPR, but it did not work and she was pronounced dead at 3:55 PM.

Our sources say there were no obvious signs of foul play, but BH PD detectives have begun a full investigation.

As of this post, cops are still waiting on a warrant to search the room.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: hesouttamylife on February 11, 2012, 11:38:34 PM
Is this about to be a murder investigation not unlike Michael’s “death” became?
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 11, 2012, 11:41:48 PM
It's rather contradictory and ambiguous....
TMZ: "Our sources say there were no obvious signs of foul play, but BH PD detectives have begun a full investigation."
Not foul play, yet the police began a full investigation.
So which way is it?
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: ilovemjforever on February 11, 2012, 11:49:56 PM
Wow,so sad the Queen of Pop is dead,cant believe it.Is this another Illuminati sacrifice.This reminds me so much of M.J.,the media keeps linking her death to Michael,what the hell is going on.To me,this is not a natural cause death.A lot of numerology,on the eve of the Grammy s,and the police are opening an investigation.Something is definitely up,i am speechless,but i hope we get answers soon.God bless you Whitney,you were a true icon.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Integrity on February 12, 2012, 12:08:11 AM
I am sick sad & disturbed.
GOD HELP US!!
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: alfarle on February 12, 2012, 12:15:39 AM
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By ALL MEANS....no disrespect.... But this link is exactly what I'm talking about in reference towards the media and their slander. :

http://hellobeautiful.com/gossip-news/sweet-sweetback/is-whitney-houston-trying-to-kill-herself/?omcamp=EMC-CVNL

I believe they are the most SHADY and evil....liars!
I just look at the date and it's a day before her death! Wow...

OMGGGG!!!! Did you see the pic below the article??? Whitney with PRINCE ??? OMG!! and did you see all that PURPLE color over that site !?? and Prince's PURPLE outfit? We're definitely looking at a HOAX!!!

(http://img571.imageshack.us/img571/7735/whitneyandprince.jpg)


@alfarle : you're amazing! thanks again for this info!!

You're welcome:) And I noticed it but at first didn't pay it much mind. Pls forgive me but I kinda forgot what purple symbolized....lol
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: applehead250609 on February 12, 2012, 12:57:32 AM
OMG I simply can't BELIEVE this   :'(  :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(  :'( :'( !!!!
Is this a nightmare or what? The same happened with Michael,OMG all the bad memories are COMING BACK to me now,in the evening I went to sleep and the next morning he was gone  :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(  :'(!!!!!!!!!


Quote
HERE ONE DAY,GONE ONE NIGHT
GONE TOO SOON

Coincidence or not last night I was looking at something about Whitney,and at also at one artice where Clive Davis said that Jennifer Hudson could the next Whitney Houston.I feel so guilty now,cause on the topic about Peter Lopez I was wondered who will be next OMG  :'(  :'( :'( :'(  :'( :'( !!!!! Whitney you are the best and always be THE VOICE ,God have mercy on your soul  !!!


Whitney Houston- I Love The Lord/Joy to The World
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfxr1mMdzOI&feature=related[/youtube]

Whitney Houston - Yes Jesus Loves Me
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHm9Ggdanyo&feature=related[/youtube]

WHITNEY HOUSTON SINGING GOSPEL
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSRmz2IGgB8&feature=related[/youtube]
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: hesouttamylife on February 12, 2012, 12:59:41 AM
Michael Jackson “gone" before BET Awards, Amy Winehouse “gone" before VMA Awards, Whitney Houston “gone" before The Grammy Awards  :shock:   Nothing is coincidence.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: applehead250609 on February 12, 2012, 01:12:33 AM
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Wow,so sad the Queen of Pop is dead,cant believe it.Is this another Illuminati sacrifice.This reminds me so much of M.J.,the media keeps linking her death to Michael,what the hell is going on.To me,this is not a natural cause death.A lot of numerology,on the eve of the Grammy s,and the police are opening an investigation.Something is definitely up,i am speechless,but i hope we get answers soon.God bless you Whitney,you were a true icon.

WTF?? THIS IS IT,if I ever was a good girl ,this stop right now and right here  :x >:( >:(  >:( >:( >:(.YOU made me very,very angry at this poit  >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(.How dare you to talk like that about Withney,she is a human being and not your bulshit illuminati sacrifice.Have a little respect for this woman!!! I'm telling you are paranoid and always dreaming of some illuminati  /scream/ !!!!
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: willddoMJ on February 12, 2012, 01:19:19 AM
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Michael Jackson “gone" before BET Awards, Amy Winehouse “gone" before VMA Awards, Whitney Houston “gone" before The Grammy Awards  :shock:   Nothing is coincidence.

Sounds suspicious. Alot died of "drug" related causes. This is 2012 after-all, and who know's what is in store for us during the year.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: scorpionchik on February 12, 2012, 01:43:20 AM
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it hurts so much

the day of 2012/02/12 will be remembered

Not sure what you mean, but Whitney died on 02/11/2012, US date.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Grace on February 12, 2012, 01:48:59 AM
My sincere condolences go out to her family and friends.

Whitney had a very turbulent life and was damaged so profoundly.
May she rest in peace now.

This is a video published on November 14, 2011 - she cannot hide the hurt even when it's about good news.
http://bossip.com/496943/whitney-houston-on-set-of-sparkle-talking-about-aaliyah-having-role-in-movie-video69691/2/ (http://bossip.com/496943/whitney-houston-on-set-of-sparkle-talking-about-aaliyah-having-role-in-movie-video69691/2/)


As the other video is set to private now, this is another one about her last performance on Feb 9, 2012.
I don't hear any ruined vocal cords due to crack.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=litanT5C7y0&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=litanT5C7y0&feature=player_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=litanT5C7y0&feature=player_embedded)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/11/whitney-houston-dead-last-performance-yes-jesus-loves-me_n_1270978.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/11/whitney-houston-dead-last-performance-yes-jesus-loves-me_n_1270978.html)



These are pictures from the Beverly Hilton Hotel.

(http://www3.pictures.zimbio.com/pc/Whitney+Houston+Scenes+Beverly+Hilton+hotel+tMFQI_GC3a-l.jpg)

(http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/pc/Whitney+Houston+Scenes+Beverly+Hilton+hotel+y4S1p8KnnVLl.jpg)

(http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/pc/Whitney+Houston+Scenes+Beverly+Hilton+hotel+HSspoeL-XQZl.jpg)

(http://www1.pictures.zimbio.com/pc/Whitney+Houston+Scenes+Beverly+Hilton+hotel+KfTdtOrUm1Tl.jpg)

http://www.zimbio.com/pictures/41vItd8ShUO/Scenes+Beverly+Hilton+hotel+singer+Whitney/y4S1p8KnnVL/Whitney+Houston (http://www.zimbio.com/pictures/41vItd8ShUO/Scenes+Beverly+Hilton+hotel+singer+Whitney/y4S1p8KnnVL/Whitney+Houston)


The media did not intend to leave her alone.
http://redbroward.com/2012/02/11/last-pics-of-whitney-houston/ (http://redbroward.com/2012/02/11/last-pics-of-whitney-houston/)


This is good to remember:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3FyLsX9PLo&feature=related[/youtube]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3FyLsX9PLo&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3FyLsX9PLo&feature=related)
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Chinbie on February 12, 2012, 02:03:24 AM
I'M SO SHOCKED BY THIS INCIDENT.
why always have someone that close with michael passed away suddenly:(
it's really a big big conspiracy /pull hair/ /scream/
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Adi on February 12, 2012, 02:16:08 AM
This is very very sad. I remember listening to Whitney's music on a road trip I did back in 1988 to Queensland on a holiday with my sister.....we both loved her music. The tape was on constant rotation in the car on that trip......her's and a mixed tape of Michael's music I had made up for the trip. Good times.

 :cry:
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: iamamjbeliever on February 12, 2012, 02:22:29 AM
RIP Whitney Houston my condolences to the Houston family, I really don't want to say this but i have to, its just freaking strange to me. But WHY do celebrities death are on strange dates??? Its really odd!! BTW my birthday was on the 11th of this month, that even more odd
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: TheDreamWalker63 on February 12, 2012, 02:32:55 AM
This is heartbreaking..I am just a year older then Whitney and can remember back to the eighties and nineties when she was at her best..I loved the movie "The Bodyguard" and I watch it often. I really don't think her death has anything to do with The Illuminati..More a case of a lady who lost her way.

Whitney you will be missed.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: willddoMJ on February 12, 2012, 02:38:15 AM
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it hurts so much

the day of 2012/02/12 will be remembered

Not sure what you mean, but Whitney died on 02/11/2012, US date.

it's 12/02/2012 for me lol
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: use_your_illusion on February 12, 2012, 03:03:07 AM
No No No...please say it's a hoax.

They said it was possible she drowned in the bathtub, it could be suspicious I think.

http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/11/whitney-houston-prescription-drugs-drowned-dead-dies-bathtub-body/#.Tzd9gVzroVA

Also she did know MJ, she performed at his 2001 concert.

What caught my eye though was a link between 2 articles;

http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/11/whitey-houston-dead-el-debarge-video/#.Tzd-v1zroVA

WHITNEY HOUSTON
Tearful Reunion with El Debarge
Days Before Death


In one of the final candid videos of Whitney Houston, the legendary singer ran into El Debarge at a nightclub in Hollywood ... and the two shared a very touching embrace.

It went down in the VIP lounge at Tru nightclub on Thursday night. Whitney's daughter, Bobbi Kristina, can also be seen in the video.

Houston performed with El Debarge back in 1999 during the Soul Train Music Awards tribute to Luther Vandross. They both battled addiction.

EL DEBARGE
My Jailed Bro Is NOT
a Dr. Murray Fan ... Yet


El Debarge says his famous incarcerated brother has a serious beef with jailmate Conrad Murray ... but El is confident the two can eventually work things out ... if Conrad plays his cards right.

As TMZ first reported, James and Murray are both being housed in the Administrative Segregation of the L.A. County Men's Jail ... which is awkward since James was Michael Jackson's brother-in-law back when he was married to Janet Jackson in 1984.

El -- who was leaving Tru nightclub in Hollywood last night -- told us his brother is a very loving man ... but insists James was pissed at Murray over the circumstances regarding MJ's death.

El tells us, "I don't really think they've had a chance to do a one-on-one talk and get an understanding ... I think once they finally do that, it'll be OK."

Still, El warns Conrad that forgiveness won't come easy ... "My brother James, he ain't no joke. My momma didn't raise no punk."

Look for El at the Grammys on Sunday because apparently he still makes music and was actually nominated.

(Tell me that's not connected)

I mean the article of Murray came and we couldn't really find clues, so maybe it links to this (HOPEFULLY)

Plus why was Whitney's daughter not allowed to see her mother, so sad.

Whitney was AMAZING, it's shocking and sad, definitely one of the greats, love 'The Bodyguard', funnily enough, I watched it a few days ago.

#Iwillalwaysloveyou...Rest In Paradise
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: ForstAMoon on February 12, 2012, 03:09:14 AM
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it hurts so much

the day of 2012/02/12 will be remembered

Not sure what you mean, but Whitney died on 02/11/2012, US date.

It was 12/02 in Europe I believe.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: applehead250609 on February 12, 2012, 03:43:58 AM
Coincidence or not this interwiev of Whithey from 2002,it's the answer to what Lionel Richie said to Pierce Morgan.Only her  knows what she went true all her life cause the price of fame is big,really big.The paparazi are always after you, the bullies,the comparision is always there,how she was and how she is now.The pressure is big and so is the challenge of fame unfortunately.

Whitney Houston as you never seen her before

Whitney Houston Diane Sawyer 2002 Interview Part 1
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrnEcMZQD3E[/youtube]

Whitney Houston Diane Sawyer 2002 Interview Part 2
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MH8T3eeEDs0&feature=related[/youtube]

Whitney Houston Diane Sawyer 2002 Interview Part 3
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1QB9yV2qks&feature=related[/youtube]

Whitney Houston Diane Sawyer 2002 Interview Part 4
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crJ7Gs8K0f8&feature=related[/youtube]

Whitney Houston Diane Sawyer 2002 Interview Part 5
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIjZ5SwOaGA&feature=related[/youtube]

OMG the last part ,part 5 was heart-breaking  :'( ,when she sang to her daughter and when she spoke about where she wolud be in 10 years  :( .
Love me or leave me said Whitney.Well ,we LOVE you Whitney cause you LOVED us too  bearhug  :'(  !!!!
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: GINAFELICIA on February 12, 2012, 03:52:41 AM
OMG I've just heard this.....I am so so sorry for her - a wonderful voice lost forever. And a beautiful woman....
I've always liked her.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: MaryK on February 12, 2012, 04:03:52 AM
I am sorry to hear this.
I am sorry for the pain and the heartache she had to go through in her life.
May she find peace now and a place where there is no more pain and tears.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: 2good2btrue on February 12, 2012, 04:08:28 AM
I've been taking my time to post something, because I wanted to read how everyone else is feeling about this.......I am truly devastated as she was someone I also grew up with and saw in concert when she was in Australia........

But unfortunately, she came back to Australia not that long ago...and she was no where near as good as she used to be......alot of fans walked out..and wanted their money back...she was also booed on stage for stumbling her lines, and not being able to hold a note like she used to...

The media was quite cruel to her regarding her last comeback........I can only say (IMO), this would have taken a toll on her........mentally.  She is not the only one responsible for her drug addiction,  it is the enablers......mainly the illuminati..

I am not going to start on about that, but it is about having a sense of awareness and awakening about these unspoken subjects that MJ so wanted us to educate us about......this can't be an accident at all.....RIP you beautiful princess...your voice was a gift from God....
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: xxmjxx on February 12, 2012, 04:17:24 AM
Just switched on my computer................... OMG! OMG! OMG!,i dont know what to say.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Starchild on February 12, 2012, 04:39:13 AM
Very nice, positive interview with Diane Sawyer.  Thanks for posting it, Applehead.  RIP, Whitney Houston.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: applehead250609 on February 12, 2012, 04:58:20 AM
Gladys Knight ,Tonny Bennett,Tony Braxton,Diana Ross,Ciara,Britney Spears and more had only nice words to say about Whitney.
R.I.P  :( .


Celebrities react to Houston's death
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdDAOq3QdRE&feature=g-u-u&context=G28a6135FUAAAAAAAAAA[/youtube]
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: alfarle on February 12, 2012, 05:01:27 AM


Just finished watching the interview and I must say...seeing her was the ONLY comfort I've had since hearing the sad news. Her beautiful voice (even though she was a bit hoarse ), watching her smile and speak with confidence....etc. Her personality is so upfront, savvy, beautiful, diva like, yet humble. I'm going to miss her DEARLY! As an aspiring model, Whitney has inspired me in SO many ways! So many! She in fact was signed to Wihelemina (sp) modeling agency btw... but I digress a bit. I'm still in complete shock that she's no longer present on earth ...but may her soul be with Jesus Christ. Regardless of what ppl say about her or have said, she has and always will be a child of God. A true angel.......

I can't sleep

Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: applehead250609 on February 12, 2012, 05:28:14 AM
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Very nice, positive interview with Diane Sawyer.  Thanks for posting it, Applehead.  RIP, Whitney Houston.

Right Starchild,you said the BEST thing right here and right now.This is what I'm trying to say or actually what I'm SCREAMING from my lungs for more than a week  :'( .Stop the negativity,please I'm begging all of you !!!! Stop the hate and bullies on people and most of all this Illuminaty shit,whatever the person is:Madonna,Lady Gaga,etc.NO one knows the real life of this people or if they did or  did not something and most of all the pressure they have to endure being famous.We only know what we hear from MEDIA.Nobody is PERFECT,NOBODY   :( !!!! Everyone of us have faults and habits and even vices.I repeat my self again,NOBODY is perfect ,so let's LOVE and accept people the way they are,cause we may lost them in a instant ,and then it will be too late .Too often we don't realize what we have until it's gone.Too often we're too stubborn to say, 'Sorry, I was wrong.' Too often it seems we hurt the ones closest to our hearts, and we let the most foolish things tear us apart  :'( .
Maya Angelou's poem fits exactly to Whitney today,as it did fit to Michael back then in 2009.So we had HER ,but now we know that we know nothing  :'( .


We had him, Dr Maya Angelou’s poem for Michael Jackson

Beloveds, now we know that we know nothing
Now that our bright and shining star can slip away from our fingertips like a puff of summer wind
Without notice, our dear love can escape our doting embrace
Sing our songs among the stars and and walk our dances across the face of the moon
In the instant we learn that Michael is gone we know nothing
No clocks can tell our time and no oceans can rush our tides
With the abrupt absence of our treasure
Though we our many, each of us is achingly alone
Piercingly alone
Only when we confess our confusion can we remember that he was a gift to us and we did have him
He came to us from the Creator, trailing creativity in abundance
Despite the anguish of life he was sheathed in mother love and family love and survived and did not more than that
He thrived with passion and compassion, humor and style
We had him
Whether we knew who he was or did not know, he was our’s and we were his
We had him
Beautiful, delighting our eyes
He raked his hat slant over his brow and took a pose on his toes for all of us and we laughed and stomped our feet for him
We were enchanted with his passion because he held nothing
He gave us all he had been given
Today in Tokyo, beneath the Eiffel Tower, in Ghana’s Blackstar Square, in Johannesburg, in Pittsburgh, in Birmingham, Alabama and Birmingham England, we are missing Michael Jackson
But we do know that we had him
And we are the world.



Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Tink on February 12, 2012, 06:11:06 AM
I was on my way to the Pre-Grammy Parties, with Sparkling Cider in the car, playing with my IPAD, on here. I didn't want to believe it, as I was supposed to meet her tonight. I'm also one of the people who point blank refuse to bring wine or champagne (see above - case of Sparkling Cider).

Before anyone goes off on conspiracy theories, let me present what I do know:

Whitney was born with a golden spoon in her mouth, deemed for greatness. Aretha Franklin was her God Mother, and Celine Dione was a cousin,
I believe.

ADDICTION is a GENETIC, Progressive Disease, a waiting time bomb waiting to be De-activated! Whitney painfully became her own worst enemy. :'(
I don't blame her 100%, as most of the Hollyweird parties had shitloads of cocaine back in the '80s for everyone to partake of. And if you didn't,
you were called weak-willed (I was called that, for not snorting it). Sometimes, all one could do, was watch the train-wrecks be repeated...over and over again.

But once she was hooked, she couldn't get rid of the monkey off her back - LIKE so many addicts who aren't famous!

Addiction doesn't care how rich, how poor you are! It's a beast in it's own right.

It was painful to hear her once immaculate voice - over the last 5 years, it's become painfully apparent that she could no longer
coax nor caress at will her high notes that had propelled her to stardom. no matter how hard she tried on stage, amidst boos
from the audience over the past few years.

2010, when she missed her high notes.  :-\
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWzqlx_8PGo&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWzqlx_8PGo&feature=related)

High at award ceremony:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UTGMou5Xo8&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UTGMou5Xo8&feature=related)

The only sinister thing going on here is: Whitney self-destructing on her own, no matter those around her, trying to help her!

When someone's deep in their Addiction, they'll fire those around them; they have to be handled with kid gloves, or

One of my friends was found in a bathtub...after I had to sadly break contact with her, because I knew she was killing herself.
Train wrecks are horrifying, especially when you see it coming!

I'd like to think she was getting there; but what I'd heard at the party, is that she'd been binge drinking, and acting bizarrely over
the past few days.

With her, I'd like to think she was uplifted from her personal hell on earth - though she still had perhaps another 40+ years to go,
if she could only overcome her multiple addictions!

I didn't know her - but she had a fun, easy going Soprano style that I was indeed studying last night - before the lights went out
on her permanently. I can only imagine what it's like to be a Coloratura Soprano, and then lose all your high register, and be
delegated to mostly the lower half of your register - because of drugs AMPUTATING your own voice, because of bad choices
time and time again, feeling helpless to do anything about it!

Addiction - YOU CANNOT FIGHT ALONE! I was assured Whitney had a large entourage around her, to help keep her off of
all drugs. But, they could smell the alcohol on her breath - they couldn't stop her, for what her ADDICTION drove her to do,
which they felt may have been binge drinking in the end...

Just hope that she's able to sing again, without fear of being booed and laughed at again, and singing in God's choir.

Also, remember this about Whitney H. - Everyone said that she'd been smoking for the past few days, and smoking.
Anyone knows that cigarettes lead to HEART ATTACKS, in the late 40's, especially if you're self medicating, and not
taking your proper meds.

ADDICTION KILLS; SMOKING KILLS, HIGH BLOOD PRESSURE KILLS, especially in a bath tub!

I'd actually mentioned Whitney may have died in a bathtub to my bf on the way to the parties. He got upset,
because it reminded him of how my friend had died in one, a few years ago...I had to hide my pain, and not touch
a single drop of alcohol (or I'd cry all night).

I feel that a tortured soul from addiction is now free at last, safe in the hands of God. And she's singing in the Heavens above; I'm sure we can all
hear her, inbetween the lightning and thunder of his team.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 12, 2012, 06:55:15 AM
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Ok, time for a Whitney death - news RECAP -
just to see the line of oddities/similarities in relation to Michael's "death"

1.
September 13th, 2011 [ 9+1+3+2+1+1=17 ; 1+7 = 8 ] - Whitney Houston's rep issued a shocked denial today to counter reports that the singer/actress has died  (http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/story?id=102477&page=1#.TzceE4FWqwc) (just like it happened with that Sun article about Michael having 6 months to live on December 2008)

2. TMZ is the first to have announced Whitney's death on February 11th, 2012 [2+1+1+2+1+2 = 9] (just like in Michael's case with TMZ being the first to announce it!). She died at 48 [4+8 = 12]

3. Although the cause of death is yet unknown, we are reminded of Whitney's problem with drugs! (WTF!! all the celebrities are drug addicts?? come on!! Whitney is just another friend of Michael's that mysteriously dies in such a brief period since his "death").
Something smells bad here!! The only possible way that this isn't true and that they are all dead, is that this is someone else's scenario! (read TPTB/Illuminati), otherwise... I can't explain all these similarities and coincidences!! this is all crazy!!

4. Several members of the Jackson family start twitting immediately after TMZ's article. Out of them all the most odd was Tito's twit:
"CAN YOU FEEL IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I HAVE BEEN BUSY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
just had to pop in i and say hey
my prayers go out for Whitney and her family
what a talent
had to make time to say that
she did Michael's 30th in new york in 2001
she wowed me--
i will be back soon--promise
much love-peace and happiness"

5. Mariah Carey, Orianthi, David Copperfield post their RIP messages on twitter too.

6. TMZ updates the initial article with this info : "She died at the Beverly Hilton Hotel. A police crime lab vehicle was seen outside the hotel[...]" and then TMZ continues to post various other articles on Whitney...

7. Whitney was working on her comeback album! Another similarity to Michael and Elvis cases!

8. And step by step the case repeats ! TMZ informs that: Police Seek Search Warrant in Death Investigation (http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/11/whitney-houston-dead-search-warrant/#.Tzc8bYFWp3B)
What will be the next  2 news? heart attack and murder!? Then it's HIStory repeating!! identical to Michael! Sorry but this story is so similar from the beginning till now, I just can't help noticing! it's so blatant!

9. @alfarle mentioned also was getting email news notices from blackplanetnews.com making statements like "is Whitney Houston suicidal?!" . They just wouldn't leave her alone! Not only that, but also news stories saying that she was broke and on her way to being homeless. (Just like in michael's case when they were spreading rumors of him dying and being broke and all that B.S.!)
10. hesouttamylife: "Michael Jackson “gone" before BET Awards, Amy Winehouse “gone" before VMA Awards, Whitney Houston “gone" before The Grammy Awards  :shock:   Nothing is coincidence." - So right!!! There are NO coincidences!!!

11. Whitney found dead in the bathtub? Reminded me of Britney's video EVERY TIME
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YzabSdk7ZA&ob=av2e[/youtube]


Once Is Chance, Twice is Coincidence, Third Time Is A Pattern

We have more than 3 'coincidences' in Whitney's case,
We have more than 3 blatant similar occurrences in all these celebrities cases!!
Whatever it is, we are being fooled!! We are fully entitled to believe that!

Whether this is part of Michael's death hoax-scenario OR part of some Illuminati death-scheme,
we can't possibly be 100% sure now!
But one thing is SURE: NOTHING IS WHAT IT SEEMS!!!


I don't want to make a Britney-hoax-Michael out of Whitney's dead thread, but please tell me if this isn't so ObVIOUS!!!  As much as it pains me to think that maybe Whitney really died, I can't help noticing all these connections!! This is more shocking than the death news in itself!! it makes me go nuts!!! Something fishy is going ON!

Just like Britney's video "Every time" makes me think about Whitney found dead in the bathtub, another of Britney's videos ("I wanna go" - kind of suggestive title , don't you think? like: "I wanna escape") makes me think of Michael and his Thriller (watch the Thriller eyes at the end of this video) and the Escape island (pay attention to everything in this video!!). Also watch Britney's clothes (so Michaelish) + she's wearing a Mickey Mouse T-shirt!

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-sxSd1uwoU&ob=av2e[/youtube]

(http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/902/britneymickeymouse.jpg)
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 12, 2012, 07:13:42 AM
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By ALL MEANS....no disrespect.... But this link is exactly what I'm talking about in reference towards the media and their slander. :

http://hellobeautiful.com/gossip-news/sweet-sweetback/is-whitney-houston-trying-to-kill-herself/?omcamp=EMC-CVNL

I believe they are the most SHADY and evil....liars!
I just look at the date and it's a day before her death! Wow...

OMGGGG!!!! Did you see the pic below the article??? Whitney with PRINCE ??? OMG!! and did you see all that PURPLE color over that site !?? and Prince's PURPLE outfit? We're definitely looking at a HOAX!!!

(http://img571.imageshack.us/img571/7735/whitneyandprince.jpg)

@alfarle : you're amazing! thanks again for this info!!
You're welcome:) And I noticed it but at first didn't pay it much mind.

Pls forgive me but I kinda forgot what purple symbolized....lol

Color PURPLE is a HUUUGE clue in whatever this is!! Whether it's Michael's plan or the Illuminati's sick and occult death rituals!

First of all:
Prince's most popular song/album -  "Purple Rain" - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5l75skRMlXk
was released on June 25th 1984 - coincidence?? Don't think so!! Also the numerology of this date is: 2+5+6+1+9+84 = 35 ; 3+5 = 8 

According to Billboard magazine, the album^^ spent 24 [888]consecutive weeks at #1 on the Billboard album charts (August 4, 1984 to January 18, 1985) becoming one of the top soundtracks ever.
Purple Rain The Soundtrack was released along with the feature Film by the same name. The Movie “Purple Rain” with the Budget of $7 million grossed well over US$80 million at the box office and became a cult classic. - http://bombaystreets.com/archives/892

There are many other PURPLE connections that I discussed about on this thread:
http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/smf2.0/index.php?topic=22103.0
and on my FB page: https://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=217737221616636
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: AKHTONI on February 12, 2012, 07:24:33 AM
RIP witney houston and may God be with you  :( sure if she is realy dead, not a hoax but hope it's a hoax  suspicious// , she is young  :(
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Grace on February 12, 2012, 07:35:02 AM
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Whitney found dead in the bathtub? Reminded me of Britney's video EVERY TIME
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YzabSdk7ZA&ob=av2e[/youtube]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YzabSdk7ZA&feature=player_embedded&video=unblocked (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YzabSdk7ZA&feature=player_embedded&video=unblocked)

This video offers a very clear "illuminated" speech.
The description says now: "In Memory of Whitney Houston (August 9, 1963 - Feb 11, 2012)"

I think this is tasteless.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 12, 2012, 07:38:14 AM
Just one day before she dies , this "article" is written!!?? just a coincidence???

And the color purple on this site?
And the pic with Prince?? all coincidence???


http://hellobeautiful.com/gossip-news/sweet-sweetback/is-whitney-houston-trying-to-kill-herself/?omcamp=EMC-CVNL

(http://img844.imageshack.us/img844/4990/image10cl.jpg)
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Grace on February 12, 2012, 07:41:24 AM
http://hellobeautiful.com/gossip-news/sweet-sweetback/is-whitney-houston-trying-to-kill-herself/?omcamp=EMC-CVNL (http://hellobeautiful.com/gossip-news/sweet-sweetback/is-whitney-houston-trying-to-kill-herself/?omcamp=EMC-CVNL)
Every character in these "words" deserves a garbage bin on its own.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: fordtocarr on February 12, 2012, 07:56:01 AM
Guess who has the publishing rights to Whitney's music!
Sony/ATV...MICHAEL
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: sigh on February 12, 2012, 07:56:50 AM
 :o Can't believe she's gone... This is so sad  :'(
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 12, 2012, 07:59:45 AM
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Guess who has the publishing rights to Whitney's music!
Sony/ATV...MICHAEL
YEPP!! ;)
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 12, 2012, 08:11:16 AM
LMAO  :lol: :lol:

http://tmz.vo.llnwd.net/o28/tmz_redirect/index.html

(http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/6311/image13w.jpg)
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: everlastinglove_MJ on February 12, 2012, 08:12:29 AM
At first I did not believe the news because I do not trust the  suspicious// media specially how the news has been told: tabloidish with no respect:
Quote
Houston died age 48, following years of on-off substance abuse issues, although the cause of death is yet to be determined.
http://hollywoodite.com/whitney-houston-dead-how-did-she-die

assumptions before investigation...
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: everlastinglove_MJ on February 12, 2012, 08:13:45 AM
..but if it is true, RIP Whitney Houston :( .
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: AKHTONI on February 12, 2012, 08:21:28 AM
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LMAO  :lol: :lol:

http://tmz.vo.llnwd.net/o28/tmz_redirect/index.html

(http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/6311/image13w.jpg)


HAHAHA  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol: TMZ is out of area  :lol:
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: PureLove on February 12, 2012, 08:25:14 AM
Guys I've just found out this article! I think something is going on here! Another hoax within the hoax?!? suspicious//

Reports of Whitney Houston's Death Denied

Whitney Houston's rep issued a shocked denial today to counter reports that the singer/actress has died

In a statement, her publicist, Nancy Seltzer, said, "I've just spoken to Whitney. She is perfectly fine and does not understand why, with everything going on in the world right now, they have to find new rumors to dig up. She is home in New Jersey with her family." Seltzer said people were calling the singer at home and sobbing, after apparently having heard reports of her death over the radio. According to the rumors, Houston had died of a drug overdose.

Fans and the media have speculated about Houston's health after her performance at Friday's Michael Jackson tribute concert at Madison Square Garden, where she appeared shockingly thin, even skeletal. The singer then bowed out of the second night of the concert without explanation, prompting heightened speculation about her health. Houston has long been rumored to have drug problems, and in Tuesday's edition of the New York Daily News — which was evidently published before horrific terrorist attacks brought the city to a standstill — Seltzer denied fresh reports that her celebrity client was on drugs.

"Whitney has been under stress due to family matters, and when she is under stress, she doesn't eat," Seltzer told the New York tab at the time.

Houston and her husband, singer Bobby Brown, have had a history of drug- and alcohol-related issues, including possession of marijuana charges for Houston in January 2000, which were later dismissed, and a 75-day stint in jail for Brown in 2000, after he violated his probation (stemming from 1996 drunken driving charges).

http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/story?id=102477&page=1#.TzfLQLFmJDs
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: AKHTONI on February 12, 2012, 08:28:46 AM
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Guys I've just found out this article! I think something is going on here! suspicious//

Reports of Whitney Houston's Death Denied

Whitney Houston's rep issued a shocked denial today to counter reports that the singer/actress has died

In a statement, her publicist, Nancy Seltzer, said, "I've just spoken to Whitney. She is perfectly fine and does not understand why, with everything going on in the world right now, they have to find new rumors to dig up. She is home in New Jersey with her family." Seltzer said people were calling the singer at home and sobbing, after apparently having heard reports of her death over the radio. According to the rumors, Houston had died of a drug overdose.

Fans and the media have speculated about Houston's health after her performance at Friday's Michael Jackson tribute concert at Madison Square Garden, where she appeared shockingly thin, even skeletal. The singer then bowed out of the second night of the concert without explanation, prompting heightened speculation about her health. Houston has long been rumored to have drug problems, and in Tuesday's edition of the New York Daily News — which was evidently published before horrific terrorist attacks brought the city to a standstill — Seltzer denied fresh reports that her celebrity client was on drugs.

"Whitney has been under stress due to family matters, and when she is under stress, she doesn't eat," Seltzer told the New York tab at the time.

Houston and her husband, singer Bobby Brown, have had a history of drug- and alcohol-related issues, including possession of marijuana charges for Houston in January 2000, which were later dismissed, and a 75-day stint in jail for Brown in 2000, after he violated his probation (stemming from 1996 drunken driving charges).

http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/story?id=102477&page=1#.TzfLQLFmJDs

OK may be something great is going to happen
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: katooooooo on February 12, 2012, 08:30:37 AM
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Guys I've just found out this article! I think something is going on here! Another hoax within the hoax?!? suspicious//

Reports of Whitney Houston's Death Denied

Whitney Houston's rep issued a shocked denial today to counter reports that the singer/actress has died

In a statement, her publicist, Nancy Seltzer, said, "I've just spoken to Whitney. She is perfectly fine and does not understand why, with everything going on in the world right now, they have to find new rumors to dig up. She is home in New Jersey with her family." Seltzer said people were calling the singer at home and sobbing, after apparently having heard reports of her death over the radio. According to the rumors, Houston had died of a drug overdose.

Fans and the media have speculated about Houston's health after her performance at Friday's Michael Jackson tribute concert at Madison Square Garden, where she appeared shockingly thin, even skeletal. The singer then bowed out of the second night of the concert without explanation, prompting heightened speculation about her health. Houston has long been rumored to have drug problems, and in Tuesday's edition of the New York Daily News — which was evidently published before horrific terrorist attacks brought the city to a standstill — Seltzer denied fresh reports that her celebrity client was on drugs.

"Whitney has been under stress due to family matters, and when she is under stress, she doesn't eat," Seltzer told the New York tab at the time.

Houston and her husband, singer Bobby Brown, have had a history of drug- and alcohol-related issues, including possession of marijuana charges for Houston in January 2000, which were later dismissed, and a 75-day stint in jail for Brown in 2000, after he violated his probation (stemming from 1996 drunken driving charges).

http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/story?id=102477&page=1#.TzfLQLFmJDs


Look at the date of the article September 13 2011
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 12, 2012, 08:31:35 AM
^^ Yes it's the article from September 13th, 2011. I placed it first in my list of oddities  about Whitney's death!

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Ok, time for a Whitney death - news RECAP -
just to see the line of oddities/similarities in relation to Michael's "death"

1.
September 13th, 2011 [ 9+1+3+2+1+1=17 ; 1+7 = 8 ] - Whitney Houston's rep issued a shocked denial today to counter reports that the singer/actress has died  (http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/story?id=102477&page=1#.TzceE4FWqwc)
(just like it happened with that Sun article about Michael having 6 months to live on December 2008)

[....]
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: fordtocarr on February 12, 2012, 08:37:46 AM
Well, what's weird is that article says that Whitney was shockingly thin, even skeletal, but when you look at her timeline of pics, she looked like that years ago, not recently.  Also, she'd just finished a movie due to be released this summer, so I'd say she was prob. looking pretty good and feeling better to have done that.  JMO
But, in the awful pic TMZ is showing, she just looks drunk, not skeletal.
Also, look at the stretcher pic they have of her...it's NOT flat at the end, whether it's head or foot, like Michael's was.!!
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Michelle on February 12, 2012, 08:43:16 AM
Unbelievable........ no better words coming right now... OMG! Sad, so sad......
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: AKHTONI on February 12, 2012, 08:46:19 AM
hey guys something is going on why TMZ posted this: Whitney HoustonTearful Reunion with El DebargeDays Before Death

http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/11/whitey-houston-dead-el-debarge-video/

conrad murray and el debarge  suspicious//  suspicious//
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 12, 2012, 09:01:46 AM
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Well, what's weird is that article says that Whitney was shockingly thin, even skeletal, but when you look at her timeline of pics, she looked like that years ago, not recently.  Also, she'd just finished a movie due to be released this summer, so I'd say she was prob. looking pretty good and feeling better to have done that.  JMO
But, in the awful pic TMZ is showing, she just looks drunk, not skeletal.
Also, look at the stretcher pic they have of her...it's NOT flat at the end, whether it's head or foot, like Michael's was.!!
Didn't they say similar BS about Michael before he "died"?
That he was broke, that he was too skinny, that he was having skin cancer, he was photographed in the wheelchair, depressed, drug addict, etc... this whole Whitney story seems to be copy-pasted from Michael's case!
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: paula-c on February 12, 2012, 09:07:50 AM
Two days before the media talked much about it, and as always do not say anything good. :roll:


Houston we have a problem... again! Whitney emerges from a nightclub looking extremely worse for wear
By J J Anisiobi


Last updated at 3:09 PM on 10th February 2012



According to Guinness World Records she is the most awarded female act of all time.
But having had a career that was once full of success at every turn Whitney Houston appears to be battling her demons once more.
The 48-year-old was spotted looking worse for wear last night in Hollywood, California after enjoying a party with friends


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Troubled: Whitney Houston looked worse for wear as she left Tru Hollywood nightclub last night
The superstar singer had been a guest at the Kelly Price & Friends Unplugged: For The Love Of R&B Grammy Party at Tru Hollywood and had even performed during the night


Dressed all in black, the How Will I Know singer appeared angry and agitated as she left the venue and looked like she had partied a little hard.
Wearing a short black dress the star emerged with her hair messed up and gestured aggressively to the waiting photographers.


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The queen: Whitney is the most awarded female artist of all time
Whitney had what is believed to be blood dripping down her leg and scratches on her wrist and she had to be escorted from the club to her car by a few people.
Her entourage guided her into the back of a large vehicle as the singer signed some autographs before being driven off.
The Bodyguard actress started off the night well and was cheered when she performed a duet with Kelly Price


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According to recent reports the highly decorated Houston has squandered her fortune and is on the brink of bankruptcy as well as facing mortgage foreclosure.
The Morris County Sheriff's Office recently authorized the mortgage foreclosure sale of her 10-acre New Jersey mansion for over $1million in overdue mortgage payments and taxes.
According to the Daily Record of Parsippany, the $6million estate may be seized and sold as part of proceedings.



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However, Whitney's publicist has claimed that the star's home is not in any danger of mortgage foreclosure and she is up to date with all payments.
Houston, who has overcome crack cocaine addiction, has allegedly spent all of her fortune, including a reported $100million record deal.
She is being financially supported by her record label Arista, which has given her an advance payment on her next album, according to reports


Whitney's fortune is gone. Music industry heavy hitters are supporting her and her label is fronting her cash against her next album, but no one knows when that will be released’ a source told Radaronline.com.
‘She might be homeless if not for people saving her. She is broke as a joke.’
Whitney - whose ex-husband is Bobby Brown - is believed to be in such a dire financial position she has even had to resort to contacting friends for small loans


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In the beginning: Whitney took to the stage with Kelly Price for the Grammy party
The source added: ‘She called someone to ask for $100. It is so sad. She should have Mariah Carey money, and she's flat broke.’
A spokesperson for the singer strongly denied the claims when contacted by MailOnline and said: 'That is ridiculous and not true! She stars in SPARKLE out in August which she also Exec produced. She just wrapped the film.'
In August 2001, Whitney signed the biggest record deal in music history at the time with Arista/BMG, renewing her contract with the label for $100million to deliver six new albums.
She released her last LP I Look to You in August 2009.


Dance with somebody: The songstress enjoyed herself at the party before emerging later looking disheveled

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/02/10/article-2099347-11AB4C41000005DC-308_634x897.jpg)
















http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2099347/Whitney-Houston-emerges-nightclub-looking-worse-wear.html
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 12, 2012, 09:20:12 AM
Whitney Houston Taking Xanax
http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/12/whitney-houston-xanax-prescritpion-bathtub-drowning/#.TzfYKYFWp3A

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Whitney Houston was taking Xanax ... evidence she may have fallen asleep in the bathtub where she died ... TMZ has learned.

Family members of Whitney tell us the singer had a prescription for the drug, which is commonly used to treat anxiety and depression.

We told you yesterday ... the night before Whitney died, she had been drinking a lot. Xanax mixed with alcohol can cause severe sedation, which could cause someone to fall asleep in a bathtub.

As TMZ first reported, Whitney was found in the bathtub and removed before EMTs arrived.  The L.A. County Coroner will perform an autopsy -- possibly today -- to determine if Whitney died from drowning, and OD or other causes.

As we previously reported, Beverly Hills cops obtained a search warrant and found various prescription bottles -- but, as far as we know, no illicit drugs.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: ilovemjforever on February 12, 2012, 09:21:55 AM
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Wow,so sad the Queen of Pop is dead,cant believe it.Is this another Illuminati sacrifice.This reminds me so much of M.J.,the media keeps linking her death to Michael,what the hell is going on.To me,this is not a natural cause death.A lot of numerology,on the eve of the Grammy s,and the police are opening an investigation.Something is definitely up,i am speechless,but i hope we get answers soon.God bless you Whitney,you were a true icon.

WTF?? THIS IS IT,if I ever was a good girl ,this stop right now and right here  :x >:( >:(  >:( >:( >:(.YOU made me very,very angry at this poit  >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(.How dare you to talk like that about Withney,she is a human being and not your bulshit illuminati sacrifice.Have a little respect for this woman!!! I'm telling you are paranoid and always dreaming of some illuminati  /scream/ !!!!
What the hell are u talking about.I have a lot of respect for Whitney,she was an icon to me.I am not paranoid ,and the Illuminati are real,and they are known to whack of celebrities.You don't find it odd,that she died on the eve of the Grammys.This is so eerily similar to M.J. and Amy Wine house.I don't know what your problem is but i don't appreciate all  those stupid smileys.My point is she was either murdered,or it could be a hoax.And again how dare you say i don't have respect for Whitney,i am crushed by her death,and if she was murdered i want the guilty parties to be punished.Is anything wrong with that?You sound like the paranoid one.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 12, 2012, 09:24:21 AM
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[...]My point is she was either murdered,or it could be a hoax.[...]
+1



[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEXKosCPo5M&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL[/youtube]

part 2 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqmE9A2sgJg&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL

part 3 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEXKosCPo5M&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: AKHTONI on February 12, 2012, 09:28:42 AM
Quote
Whitney Houston was taking Xanax ... evidence she may have fallen asleep in the bathtub where she died ... TMZ has learned.


wow  /bravo/ TMZ always first and always "TMZ HAS LEARNED"   suspicious//
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: diggyon on February 12, 2012, 09:36:24 AM
Oh my God!!!!! Another hoax????? I hope she is not murdered!!!! Because it is so sad to see her go like this!!!!
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: mindseye on February 12, 2012, 09:48:43 AM
Very sad and tragic, she shouldn't have been left alone when ppl know her history. There are reports that she was seen disorientated while walking the hotel halls. RIP Whitney Houston
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 12, 2012, 09:54:06 AM
https://twitter.com/#!/TeddyRiley1

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Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: diggyon on February 12, 2012, 10:00:44 AM
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This is really very odd!!!!!!
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 12, 2012, 10:08:00 AM
Joe Jackson on twitter:

"If we are really going to make a change for the better & achieve a massive transformation then I'm gonna need all of you to spread the word!
If you always think you are more than you are, you will always have space to learn and grow.
If someone dreams of it someone can believe it, if someone believes in it someone can create it, if someone creates it, everyone can use it!
If it is to be, it is up to me!
If during your time in this existence you help to change the direction & improve the life of one other, you have lived a life more than most
I will persevere, never waning, never stopping, never giving up until this existence which I have been born into is back how its meant to be"
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 12, 2012, 10:16:17 AM
Whitney Houston Found Underwater
http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/12/whitney-houston-dead-bathtub-underwater/#.TzflkoFWp3A

Whitney Houston was found in the bathtub of a Beverly Hills hotel yesterday ... with her face underwater ... people close to Whitney tell TMZ.

According to our sources, her stylist, hairdresser and two bodyguards were among the people in the room at the time. We're told they became worried about Whitney because she had been in the bathroom for over an hour and it was time to start getting ready for the Clive Davis party.

Our sources say they began to knock on the door and there was no answer. We're told the hairdresser, who is female, went in to check on Whitney. She immediately screamed and, according to our sources, one of the bodyguards came running in and pulled her out of the tub.

We're told Whitney's face was below the water and her legs were up ... like she had slid down the back of the tub.

According to our sources, her body was very cold and the bodyguard attempted CPR. That's when hotel security was called.

Paramedics arrived shortly thereafter, but Whitney was pronounced dead at 3:55 PM.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: PureLove on February 12, 2012, 11:00:28 AM
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Guys I've just found out this article! I think something is going on here! Another hoax within the hoax?!? suspicious//

Reports of Whitney Houston's Death Denied

Whitney Houston's rep issued a shocked denial today to counter reports that the singer/actress has died

In a statement, her publicist, Nancy Seltzer, said, "I've just spoken to Whitney. She is perfectly fine and does not understand why, with everything going on in the world right now, they have to find new rumors to dig up. She is home in New Jersey with her family." Seltzer said people were calling the singer at home and sobbing, after apparently having heard reports of her death over the radio. According to the rumors, Houston had died of a drug overdose.

Fans and the media have speculated about Houston's health after her performance at Friday's Michael Jackson tribute concert at Madison Square Garden, where she appeared shockingly thin, even skeletal. The singer then bowed out of the second night of the concert without explanation, prompting heightened speculation about her health. Houston has long been rumored to have drug problems, and in Tuesday's edition of the New York Daily News — which was evidently published before horrific terrorist attacks brought the city to a standstill — Seltzer denied fresh reports that her celebrity client was on drugs.

"Whitney has been under stress due to family matters, and when she is under stress, she doesn't eat," Seltzer told the New York tab at the time.

Houston and her husband, singer Bobby Brown, have had a history of drug- and alcohol-related issues, including possession of marijuana charges for Houston in January 2000, which were later dismissed, and a 75-day stint in jail for Brown in 2000, after he violated his probation (stemming from 1996 drunken driving charges).

http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/story?id=102477&page=1#.TzfLQLFmJDs


Look at the date of the article September 13 2011

Ohh yeah, I'm sorry, I should have checked out the date first. It's from September 13 2001. That's the first article that pops up when you google about her death.

Another "coincidence" is Jennifer Hudson is going to sing her songs tonight at the Grammys. Another parallel with Michael? I don't know. I really hope that this is just another hoax and she is alive. But if she is not, I hope she rests in peace. She will be missed a lot. She was an amazing talent.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: MaryK on February 12, 2012, 11:03:41 AM
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https://twitter.com/#!/TeddyRiley1

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This is really very odd!!!!!!

I don´t think that´s odd. A very close friend of mine commited suicide two years ago. Whenever I post something on his memorial website I address him personally. It´s much more intimate.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: PureLove on February 12, 2012, 11:07:05 AM
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Wow,so sad the Queen of Pop is dead,cant believe it.Is this another Illuminati sacrifice.This reminds me so much of M.J.,the media keeps linking her death to Michael,what the hell is going on.To me,this is not a natural cause death.A lot of numerology,on the eve of the Grammy s,and the police are opening an investigation.Something is definitely up,i am speechless,but i hope we get answers soon.God bless you Whitney,you were a true icon.

WTF?? THIS IS IT,if I ever was a good girl ,this stop right now and right here  :x >:( >:(  >:( >:( >:(.YOU made me very,very angry at this poit  >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(.How dare you to talk like that about Withney,she is a human being and not your bulshit illuminati sacrifice.Have a little respect for this woman!!! I'm telling you are paranoid and always dreaming of some illuminati  /scream/ !!!!

Applehead, I think you need to calm down. There's nothing disrespectful in ilovemjforever's post. She wrote her own opinion which can be possible. Your disbelief in the presence of illuminati doesn't change the truth about them. So pls be more respectful to other people's opinions.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: GINAFELICIA on February 12, 2012, 11:08:56 AM
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Joe Jackson on twitter:

"If we are really going to make a change for the better & achieve a massive transformation then I'm gonna need all of you to spread the word!
If you always think you are more than you are, you will always have space to learn and grow.
If someone dreams of it someone can believe it, if someone believes in it someone can create it, if someone creates it, everyone can use it!
If it is to be, it is up to me!
If during your time in this existence you help to change the direction & improve the life of one other, you have lived a life more than most
I will persevere, never waning, never stopping, never giving up until this existence which I have been born into is back how its meant to be"

Joe Jackson has a twiter account?
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: fordtocarr on February 12, 2012, 11:12:21 AM
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Joe Jackson on twitter:

"If we are really going to make a change for the better & achieve a massive transformation then I'm gonna need all of you to spread the word!
If you always think you are more than you are, you will always have space to learn and grow.
If someone dreams of it someone can believe it, if someone believes in it someone can create it, if someone creates it, everyone can use it!
If it is to be, it is up to me!
If during your time in this existence you help to change the direction & improve the life of one other, you have lived a life more than most
I will persevere, never waning, never stopping, never giving up until this existence which I have been born into is back how its meant to be"

Joe Jackson has a twiter account?

RIGHT Gina.  And from what I've heard of Joe speaking, these words sure don't sound like him do they??  I wonder if these are someone else's words...?  I honestly will not believe Joe would say this or feel as these words. 
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Dontwalkaway on February 12, 2012, 11:12:35 AM
Yes SimpattyK and others.

There are a few odd things already :

1.  In a hotel right before the Grammy's
2.  On the 11th of the month
3.  TMZ one of the first to put information out- Again,   With photos and everything.
4.  Odd twitters by several people including Joe Jackson, and Teddy Riley ???

Joe is talking about achieving a mass transformation ?   I am hoping she is part of the hoax, and not a murder or accidental death.  That would be beyond fantastic but we don't have enough information to say that yet.  So right now, this is extremely sad.
R.I.P. Whitney.  We Love You





Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: VeryLittleSusie on February 12, 2012, 11:15:06 AM
I hope this site won't turn into "Whitney Houston Death Hoax Investigators" :D LOL!

RIP Whitney... poor baby... :(
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: LoveShyMichael on February 12, 2012, 11:23:28 AM
If the truth comes out about Whitney being on prescription drugs, & that contributed to her death. What do you think happens to the doctors & BIG PHARMA for prescribing those? NOTHING!!!!  They are immune from any criminal behavior. American's need to understand how BIG PHARMA operates when it comes to prescription drugs. The "legal" drugs are the deadliest. They are meant be be addictive. BIG PHARMA NEEDS YOU TO BE A REPEAT CUSTOMER.

Whitney Houston yet another victim of pharmaceutical drug industry

Sunday, February 12, 2012
by Mike Adams, the Health Ranger
Editor of NaturalNews.com (See all articles...)

NaturalNews) The regretful passing of an American entertainment icon -- Whitney Houston -- marks yet another sad milestone in the devastating body count of the prescription drug industry. TMZ is now reporting that Whitney Houston was found not with illegal drugs, but prescription drugs that may have killed her or caused her to drown in the bathtub. (http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/11/whitney-houston-prescription-drugs-drow...)

An autopsy has yet to be performed, and it will reportedly provide more conclusive information.


Whitney Houston was taking Xanax, a psychiatric anti-anxiety drug
According to Fox News, Houston's family members said she was taking Xanax, a powerful psychtropic drug (http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2012/02/12/whitney-houston-dead-...). As NaturalNews has reported many times, mind-altering drugs are known to cause erratic behavior and suicidal thoughts. (http://www.naturalnews.com/032097_antidepressants_suicidal_tendencies...) and (http://www.naturalnews.com/022743.html).

Although Xanax is not an SSRI drug, its side effects include:

• Aggression
• Rage and hostility
• Twitches and tremors
• Mania, agitation
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xanax#Adverse_effects)

An overdose of Xanax may cause:

• Dizziness
• Fainting
• Coma
• Death

Xanax is widely promoted throughout that DSM-IV, the "bible" of modern psychiatry which promotes the use of prescription amphetamines to children (among other bizarre chemical recommendations).


Whitney Houston showed clear signs of pharmaceutical adverse effects
"[Houston,] who struggled with drug and alcohol abuse in her later life, made a bizarre appearance just two evenings before," reports US Magazine (http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/whitney-houston-shaky-e...)

At a pre-Grammys party at Tru Hollywood Thursday evening, the beloved Grammy-winning singer seemed "wasted" and "moody" as she exited the club past midnight, according to a witness. "She reacted angrily to the security guards trying to get her into her car...and started cussing them out."

Although the superstar smiled when fans approached her for autographs, "she would get moody again in a split second," the observer says. "It was sad because her fans noticed that she was really shaky as she left the venue. She definitely was not in control of herself."

This is the behavior of a person who is using either prescription psychiatric drugs or recreational drugs (or perhaps both in combination). That this was observed with Houston on multiple occasions is very strong evidence that these drugs were altering her brain function and thereby radically altering her personality and behavior.


Heath Ledger was also killed by pharmaceuticals
You may recall the death of beloved actor Heath Ledger, who was killed by prescription medications in 2008. Read the NaturalNews report on his death at http://www.naturalnews.com/022537_Heath_Ledger_pharmas.html

Remember: for every celebrity death caused by prescription drugs, there are hundreds of thousands of deaths of everyday people from prescription drugs, too. In fact, according to published scientific statistics:

Prescription drugs kill 200,000 Americans every year -- even when taken as directed and not abused! (http://www.naturalnews.com/021635.html)

The number of people killed by prescription drugs absolutely dwarfs the number killed by alleged acts of terrorism (9/11 in particular). And while America has gone crazy with "security checkpoints," TSA agents reaching down your pants, nullification of the Bill of Rights (http://www.naturalnews.com/034537_NDAA_Bill_of_Rights_Obama.html) and other outrageous government encroachments on your freedom to fight the so-called "war on terror," the government does absolutely nothing to address the holocaust of prescription drug deaths happening every single day.

Whitney Houston is just one of countless Americans who are victims of Big Pharma, an industry that cares far more about corporate profits than it does about the lives of real people. And today, we have lost yet another iconic American artist whose life was cut short by addiction, prescription drugs and the entire "medication culture" that exists in America today.

Whitney Houston will be missed. May her death serve as an urgent call for ending the scourge of mind-altering psychotropic drugs and ending the failed "War on Drugs" that tries to criminalize drug addicts rather than helping them heal.

Learn more about the dangers of psychiatric drugs at:
www.CCHRint.org

Read more about the failed War on Drugs at:
www.NORML.org


It's time to start helping drug addicts rather than throwing them behind bars
NaturalNews calls for the decriminalization of recreational drugs followed by the treatment of drug addicts and abusers through health-oriented support services (including nutrition) rather than the criminal justice system.

It is time to empty the prisons of non-violent drug offenders and compassionately offer them addiction treatment programs. As written today, our laws would condemn Whitney Houston as a felony criminal rather than someone who was only guilty of being caught up in a cycle of substance abuse and prescription drug dependence.

It is time to stop treating addiction as a criminal offense and start helping people rather than throwing them behind bars. If society's response to drug addiction and abuse were based more in health and compassion rather than revenge and punishment, Whitney Houston might very well still be alive today, along with countless other victims of the pharmaceutical and recreational drugs industries.

Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: scorpionchik on February 12, 2012, 11:30:04 AM
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it hurts so much

the day of 2012/02/12 will be remembered

Not sure what you mean, but Whitney died on 02/11/2012, US date.


It was 12/02 in Europe I believe.

Yeah I got that, it does not count. Her death certificate will show 02/11/2012. Otherwise, for Europe Michael "died"/ hoaxed his death on June 26, 2009 and all weird numerology science in here goes to trash.



 
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: ForstAMoon on February 12, 2012, 11:43:41 AM
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it hurts so much

the day of 2012/02/12 will be remembered

Not sure what you mean, but Whitney died on 02/11/2012, US date.


It was 12/02 in Europe I believe.

Yeah I got that, it does not count. Her death certificate will show 02/11/2012. Otherwise, for Europe Michael "died"/ hoaxed his death on June 26, 2009 and all weird numerology science in here goes to trash.
The reason I put the date was not due to numerology or crunching numbers. It was just an easy (if I may say so given sad circumstances) date to remember. I do not believe Whitney death is hoax or MJ hoax related. Unfortunately :cry:
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: diggyon on February 12, 2012, 11:45:30 AM
If Mr. "Hatman" appears in her funeral, then this means only one thing..........it's a hoax, no doubt!!! Well, let's wait and see what's gonna happen during the funeral and when is the funeral going to take place!!! The best is yet to come!!!
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: LoveShyMichael on February 12, 2012, 12:14:46 PM
UPDATE FROM MY LAST POST FROM WWW.NATURALNEWS.COM


Whitney Houston yet another victim of pharmaceutical drug industry (UPDATE 1)

Houston had "a plethora of sedatives including Lorazepam, Valium, Xanax, and a sleeping medication that was found in her hotel room," reports Radar Online (http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2012/02/drugs-whitney-houston-h...).

"The prescription drugs were officially taken into custody by the Beverly Hills Police Department," the website reported. An autopsy has yet to be performed, and it will reportedly provide more conclusive information about the actual cause of death.

Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/034944_Whitney_Houston_prescription_drugs_addiction.html#ixzz1mBzusWQj
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: iamamjbeliever on February 12, 2012, 12:16:51 PM
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If Mr. "Hatman" appears in her funeral, then this means only one thing..........it's a hoax, no doubt!!! Well, let's wait and see what's gonna happen during the funeral and when is the funeral going to take place!!! The best is yet to come!!!

lmao!!
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: mrbigshot on February 12, 2012, 12:18:08 PM
She's gone, i'm almost sure of it. I didn't get quite teh same feeling with her as i did with michael a couple years back. It's tragic, but unfortunately, not unheard of. But we cant assume just because of the oddities that have occurred so far make this a hoax.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: hesouttamylife on February 12, 2012, 12:21:22 PM
I made a  post and it has disappeared :?  Hmmmmmm  bangbang   Maybe because it had references to illuminati “scratches my head"
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: hesouttamylife on February 12, 2012, 01:00:28 PM
Just to add another not to this conversation, I never believed that John Lennon’s death was the act of a lone homicidal maniac.  John, who was philosophically correct and an advocate of freedoms for all and against the ravages of war period, was certainly assassinated for his strong convictions and his power over the masses to go against the system and give peace a chance.  As long as he was singing love songs he was “safe”, non threatening.  No sooner than he became a political advisary, changing the agenda, he was gone in the blink of an eye.   
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: fordtocarr on February 12, 2012, 01:14:39 PM
Sony/ATV is NOT "THE" only publisher, nor the largest, I think the second though.  YET, they hold publishing rights to the largest artists.
As in ones who have "died".  Things that make you go hummmm
"Michael Jackson"
Whitney Houston
John Lennon (The Beatles anyhow)
Elvis Presley
James Brown
Jimi Hendrix
James Morrison
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: justdroppingin on February 12, 2012, 01:21:02 PM
Hi.

I haven't been on these forums since right after michael died.  But I do check back in from time to time.

I had to register and make a note of this that I noticed about a photo of Whitney.  I don't know how to post pics, but here is a link to the yahoo article where I noticed it --

http://music.yahoo.com/blogs/stop-the-presses/blood-sweat-dishevelment-whitney-houston-tumultuous-final-days-144148765.html

This pic is from Thursday night when she was supposedly acting crazy at a night club.  Notice she is holding her arms up to make the number 11.  She died on the 11th.

It's starting to get too easy sometimes.  All of this stuff is so weird.  Maybe someday we will figure out what is really going on, but there is no way all of these things are just coincidences.

Plus, I believe the number 11 is an illuminati number.

Anyway, I found this interesting.  :)
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: blankie on February 12, 2012, 01:22:44 PM
 :cry: :cry: :cry:  I'm sad very much  :cry: :cry:
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: applehead250609 on February 12, 2012, 01:48:52 PM
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ilovemjforever
« Reply #126 on: February 12, 2012, 11:21:55 PM »
What the hell are u talking about.I have a lot of respect for Whitney,she was an icon to me.I am not paranoid ,and the Illuminati are real,and they are known to whack of celebrities.You don't find it odd,that she died on the eve of the Grammys.This is so eerily similar to M.J. and Amy Wine house.I don't know what your problem is but i don't appreciate all  those stupid smileys.My point is she was either murdered,or it could be a hoax.And again how dare you say i don't have respect for Whitney,i am crushed by her death,and if she was murdered i want the guilty parties to be punished.Is anything wrong with that?You sound like the paranoid one.

I apologise because I called you paranoid, I did a mistake and I know that it was too much.Please accept my apologise but when I saw that you wrote that she may be an illuminaty sacrifice  I lost it,because I tougtht at her daughter if she ever saw that  :( .As regarding the Illuminati I decided to respect your decision,even if I don't believe in this myth .PEACE  /white flag/
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: applehead250609 on February 12, 2012, 01:59:26 PM
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Tink
Reply #102 on: February 12, 2012, 08:11:06 PM »
I was on my way to the Pre-Grammy Parties, with Sparkling Cider in the car, playing with my IPAD, on here. I didn't want to believe it, as I was supposed to meet her tonight. I'm also one of the people who point blank refuse to bring wine or champagne (see above - case of Sparkling Cider).

Before anyone goes off on conspiracy theories, let me present what I do know:

Whitney was born with a golden spoon in her mouth, deemed for greatness. Aretha Franklin was her God Mother, and Celine Dione was a cousin,
I believe.

ADDICTION is a GENETIC, Progressive Disease, a waiting time bomb waiting to be De-activated! Whitney painfully became her own worst enemy. :'(
I don't blame her 100%, as most of the Hollyweird parties had shitloads of cocaine back in the '80s for everyone to partake of. And if you didn't,
you were called weak-willed (I was called that, for not snorting it). Sometimes, all one could do, was watch the train-wrecks be repeated...over and over again.

But once she was hooked, she couldn't get rid of the monkey off her back - LIKE so many addicts who aren't famous!

Addiction doesn't care how rich, how poor you are! It's a beast in it's own right.

It was painful to hear her once immaculate voice - over the last 5 years, it's become painfully apparent that she could no longer
coax nor caress at will her high notes that had propelled her to stardom. no matter how hard she tried on stage, amidst boos
from the audience over the past few years.

2010, when she missed her high notes.  :-\
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWzqlx_8PGo&feature=related

High at award ceremony:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UTGMou5Xo8&feature=related

The only sinister thing going on here is: Whitney self-destructing on her own, no matter those around her, trying to help her!

When someone's deep in their Addiction, they'll fire those around them; they have to be handled with kid gloves, or

One of my friends was found in a bathtub...after I had to sadly break contact with her, because I knew she was killing herself.
Train wrecks are horrifying, especially when you see it coming!

I'd like to think she was getting there; but what I'd heard at the party, is that she'd been binge drinking, and acting bizarrely over
the past few days.

With her, I'd like to think she was uplifted from her personal hell on earth - though she still had perhaps another 40+ years to go,
if she could only overcome her multiple addictions!

I didn't know her - but she had a fun, easy going Soprano style that I was indeed studying last night - before the lights went out
on her permanently. I can only imagine what it's like to be a Coloratura Soprano, and then lose all your high register, and be
delegated to mostly the lower half of your register - because of drugs AMPUTATING your own voice, because of bad choices
time and time again, feeling helpless to do anything about it!

Addiction - YOU CANNOT FIGHT ALONE! I was assured Whitney had a large entourage around her, to help keep her off of
all drugs. But, they could smell the alcohol on her breath - they couldn't stop her, for what her ADDICTION drove her to do,
which they felt may have been binge drinking in the end...

Just hope that she's able to sing again, without fear of being booed and laughed at again, and singing in God's choir.

Also, remember this about Whitney H. - Everyone said that she'd been smoking for the past few days, and smoking.
Anyone knows that cigarettes lead to HEART ATTACKS, in the late 40's, especially if you're self medicating, and not
taking your proper meds.

ADDICTION KILLS; SMOKING KILLS, HIGH BLOOD PRESSURE KILLS, especially in a bath tub!

I'd actually mentioned Whitney may have died in a bathtub to my bf on the way to the parties. He got upset,
because it reminded him of how my friend had died in one, a few years ago...I had to hide my pain, and not touch
a single drop of alcohol (or I'd cry all night).

I feel that a tortured soul from addiction is now free at last, safe in the hands of God. And she's singing in the Heavens above; I'm sure we can all
hear her, inbetween the lightning and thunder of his team.

Tink can you please tell us more about this parties where celebrities take drugs???
I know that Michael use to join often some parties at Hollywood,what about him? He always said he would never take drugs and he even wrote in his book Moonwalket that he doesen't want to end like many celebrities who died becasue of drugs and alcohol.
BTW I'm sorry to hear about your friend  :( .Please take care and be strong  bearhug .
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: hesouttamylife on February 12, 2012, 02:00:39 PM
How dare artist who have been the biggest money makers for the industry start to go against their wishes and decide to be their own creative masters.  If that’s not a slap in the pockets, for those same artists to then start donating and ear marking huge sums to other interests and making music for worthy causes is like a swift kick in the pants.  You are their property and you owe them for grooming you for the star you became.  You are not to go against their plans for your career or else they’ll make your life a living hell.  Greed and creative indifference!   Once they sense that they no longer own and can’t contro you, and see that you are pulling in a different direction, they feel priviledged to shut you out and put you down, just like an animal.  They go all out to systematiclly ruin your reputation and then stifle your career using the media as the whistle blower.  Treacherous and ruthless.  The industry needs a wake up call in the form of an all out investigation into their operational practices.  Something stinks.  McCauley Culkin seems to be next on the chopping block.  I so hope that my theory is wrong, but I doubt it.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Tink on February 12, 2012, 02:02:14 PM
Paranoia + Constant Conspiracy Theories = Time for a vacation!

Her people were simply waiting for her to get out of the bathroom, to get her fixed up for the night. I'm making a note, that this is the SECOND smoker I've heard of/known, who's died in the bathtub! If I don't hear someone making noise from now on, I'm going to break the door down, I swear.

I've already made a bet with my best friend, on what I think happened: Heart Attack! It doesn't matter whether she took anything or not, because this is exactly what happened to my other friend, years ago!  :'( :'( :'(

SMOKING + Menopause can speed up Heart Disease, btw.

Women have different heart attack warnings than men; here they are:
Women's symptoms not as predictable

According to Patricia A.Grady, PhD, RN, Director of the NINR, "Increasingly, it is evident that women's symptoms are not as predictable as men's. This study offers hope that both women and clinicians will realize the wide range of symptoms that can indicate heart attack. It is important not to miss the earliest possible opportunity to prevent or ease AMI, which is the number one cause of death in both women and men."

PLEASE make a note of the symptoms - you could save the life of your mother, sister - even your own! :idea:

Women's major symptoms prior to their heart attack include:

Unusual fatigue - 70%
Sleep disturbance - 48%
Shortness of breath - 42%
Indigestion - 39%
Anxiety - 35%

Major symptoms during the heart attack include:

Shortness of breath - 58%
Weakness - 55%
Unusual fatigue - 43%
Cold sweat - 39%
Dizziness - 39%


Related NIH research into heart attacks in women includes possible ethnic and racial differences.



It doesn't matter whether she took Xanax, Alcohol, or whatever - if she had a Heart Attack, quite often the first sign is: A Heart Attack! In my family, only one person's survived their first attack...the others are dead.



"How does smoking affect my heart?
Smoking damages your heart in several ways:

The chemicals in cigarettes damage the walls of the arteries around your heart. This causes the buildup of fatty plaque that can harden and narrow the arteries. Smoking can also trigger these fatty plaques to burst and block the artery, causing a heart attack.
Smoking makes the blood more likely to thicken and clot, increasing your risk of a heart attack.
Smoking may trigger coronary spasms where the blood vessels of the heart are pinched or narrowed, causing chest pain or a heart attack.
The nicotine in cigarettes stimulates the release of chemicals that can raise your blood pressure.
Smokers tend to have high levels of LDL (bad) cholesterol and triglycerides—two types of blood fat that increase your risk of heart disease. Smoking also lowers HDL (good) cholesterol.
Does smoking increase my risk of heart attack or dying from heart disease?

A study that followed nearly 120,000 women nurses aged 30 to 55 for 12 years found that those who smoked were 4 times more likely to suffer a heart attack or die from heart disease than nonsmokers. The risks were even higher for women who started smoking before the age of 15—they were 9 times more likely to suffer heart problems. Smoking appears to be particularly harmful for young women. A combined analysis of 14 studies of heart disease patients showed that more than 70% of the women 45 years or younger were smokers.

Is smoking more harmful to women than men?

Smoking appears to increase a woman's risk of heart disease more so than a man's. In one study, smoking increased the risk of having a heart attack 57% more in women than in men. In general, women—especially younger women—have a lower risk of heart disease than men. Smoking seems to cancel out this natural protection.

Is light smoking harmful?

You don't have to be a heavy smoker to be at risk; even light smoking is harmful. In the Nurses' Health Study mentioned earlier, smoking just 1 to 4 cigarettes a day doubled the risk of having a heart attack or dying from heart disease.

Will quitting smoking help my heart?

Yes. Within 2 years of quitting, your risk of heart disease is cut by one third. After 10 to 14 cigarette-free years, your risk of heart disease is the same as a woman who never smoked. If you have already had a heart attack or been diagnosed with heart disease, it is even more important to stop smoking. Within 5 years of stopping , your risk of dying is cut by 36% compared with heart patients who continue to smoke.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: mindseye on February 12, 2012, 02:06:50 PM
This is definitely not some hoax. I guess she wasn't alone,  she may have had a few health issues. btw not sure how true this is yet, just read developing news about daughter http://perezhilton.com/2012-02-12-whitney-houstons-daughter-rushed-to-the-hospital-on-stretcher#.TzgaN7TZWSo
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: scorpionchik on February 12, 2012, 02:09:18 PM
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Hi.

I haven't been on these forums since right after michael died.  But I do check back in from time to time.

I had to register and make a note of this that I noticed about a photo of Whitney.  I don't know how to post pics, but here is a link to the yahoo article where I noticed it --

http://music.yahoo.com/blogs/stop-the-presses/blood-sweat-dishevelment-whitney-houston-tumultuous-final-days-144148765.html

This pic is from Thursday night when she was supposedly acting crazy at a night club.  Notice she is holding her arms up to make the number 11.  She died on the 11th.

It's starting to get too easy sometimes.  All of this stuff is so weird.  Maybe someday we will figure out what is really going on, but there is no way all of these things are just coincidences.

Plus, I believe the number 11 is an illuminati number.

Anyway, I found this interesting.  :)


I was born 11/11..................   :?
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Andrea on February 12, 2012, 02:10:22 PM
I can't help but wonder about what this huge news of Whitney's death is masking about other events going on in the world.  CNN talked about nothing but Whitney last night and today most likely.

Meanwhile, there are protests in Greece, a country that could very well go bankrupt.

Iran is on the verge of making a huge nuclear progress announcement, and I've been reading that Israel was planning to (or did?) attack Iran last night, around the same time Whitney's death was announced to the world.  I also read yesterday that over 30 million people in Iran lost access to foreign email services like Gmail, yahoo and hotmail.

It would seem that Whitney's death is a very 'convenient' distraction to what's happening in other parts of the world.

You always have to question what you're not hearing about when the media intensely focuses on one huge story.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: mindseye on February 12, 2012, 02:16:22 PM
True, don't forget the other news in the world. I'm sure a majority of ppl aren't focusing on her death anyway. This is another article I found, no doubt, the entertainment industry is a strange one. http://www.forbes.com/sites/rogerfriedman/2012/02/12/whitneys-death-an-earlier-incident/
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: MichaelsAngel on February 12, 2012, 02:22:18 PM
Whitney Houston was incredibly talented. Her passing makes me so sad  :'( My prayers go out to her family
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: hesouttamylife on February 12, 2012, 02:37:59 PM
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If the truth comes out about Whitney being on prescription drugs, & that contributed to her death. What do you think happens to the doctors & BIG PHARMA for prescribing those? NOTHING!!!!  They are immune from any criminal behavior. American's need to understand how BIG PHARMA operates when it comes to prescription drugs. The "legal" drugs are the deadliest. They are meant be be addictive. BIG PHARMA NEEDS YOU TO BE A REPEAT CUSTOMER.

Whitney Houston yet another victim of pharmaceutical drug industry

Sunday, February 12, 2012
by Mike Adams, the Health Ranger
Editor of NaturalNews.com (See all articles...)

NaturalNews) The regretful passing of an American entertainment icon -- Whitney Houston -- marks yet another sad milestone in the devastating body count of the prescription drug industry. TMZ is now reporting that Whitney Houston was found not with illegal drugs, but prescription drugs that may have killed her or caused her to drown in the bathtub. (http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/11/whitney-houston-prescription-drugs-drow...)

An autopsy has yet to be performed, and it will reportedly provide more conclusive information.


Whitney Houston was taking Xanax, a psychiatric anti-anxiety drug
According to Fox News, Houston's family members said she was taking Xanax, a powerful psychtropic drug (http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2012/02/12/whitney-houston-dead-...). As NaturalNews has reported many times, mind-altering drugs are known to cause erratic behavior and suicidal thoughts. (http://www.naturalnews.com/032097_antidepressants_suicidal_tendencies...) and (http://www.naturalnews.com/022743.html).

Although Xanax is not an SSRI drug, its side effects include:

• Aggression
• Rage and hostility
• Twitches and tremors
• Mania, agitation
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xanax#Adverse_effects)

An overdose of Xanax may cause:

• Dizziness
• Fainting
• Coma
• Death

Xanax is widely promoted throughout that DSM-IV, the "bible" of modern psychiatry which promotes the use of prescription amphetamines to children (among other bizarre chemical recommendations).


Whitney Houston showed clear signs of pharmaceutical adverse effects
"[Houston,] who struggled with drug and alcohol abuse in her later life, made a bizarre appearance just two evenings before," reports US Magazine (http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/whitney-houston-shaky-e...)

At a pre-Grammys party at Tru Hollywood Thursday evening, the beloved Grammy-winning singer seemed "wasted" and "moody" as she exited the club past midnight, according to a witness. "She reacted angrily to the security guards trying to get her into her car...and started cussing them out."

Although the superstar smiled when fans approached her for autographs, "she would get moody again in a split second," the observer says. "It was sad because her fans noticed that she was really shaky as she left the venue. She definitely was not in control of herself."

This is the behavior of a person who is using either prescription psychiatric drugs or recreational drugs (or perhaps both in combination). That this was observed with Houston on multiple occasions is very strong evidence that these drugs were altering her brain function and thereby radically altering her personality and behavior.


Heath Ledger was also killed by pharmaceuticals
You may recall the death of beloved actor Heath Ledger, who was killed by prescription medications in 2008. Read the NaturalNews report on his death at http://www.naturalnews.com/022537_Heath_Ledger_pharmas.html

Remember: for every celebrity death caused by prescription drugs, there are hundreds of thousands of deaths of everyday people from prescription drugs, too. In fact, according to published scientific statistics:

Prescription drugs kill 200,000 Americans every year -- even when taken as directed and not abused! (http://www.naturalnews.com/021635.html)

The number of people killed by prescription drugs absolutely dwarfs the number killed by alleged acts of terrorism (9/11 in particular). And while America has gone crazy with "security checkpoints," TSA agents reaching down your pants, nullification of the Bill of Rights (http://www.naturalnews.com/034537_NDAA_Bill_of_Rights_Obama.html) and other outrageous government encroachments on your freedom to fight the so-called "war on terror," the government does absolutely nothing to address the holocaust of prescription drug deaths happening every single day.

Whitney Houston is just one of countless Americans who are victims of Big Pharma, an industry that cares far more about corporate profits than it does about the lives of real people. And today, we have lost yet another iconic American artist whose life was cut short by addiction, prescription drugs and the entire "medication culture" that exists in America today.

Whitney Houston will be missed. May her death serve as an urgent call for ending the scourge of mind-altering psychotropic drugs and ending the failed "War on Drugs" that tries to criminalize drug addicts rather than helping them heal.

Learn more about the dangers of psychiatric drugs at:
www.CCHRint.org

Read more about the failed War on Drugs at:
www.NORML.org



It's time to start helping drug addicts rather than throwing them behind bars
NaturalNews calls for the decriminalization of recreational drugs followed by the treatment of drug addicts and abusers through health-oriented support services (including nutrition) rather than the criminal justice system.

It is time to empty the prisons of non-violent drug offenders and compassionately offer them addiction treatment programs. As written today, our laws would condemn Whitney Houston as a felony criminal rather than someone who was only guilty of being caught up in a cycle of substance abuse and prescription drug dependence.

It is time to stop treating addiction as a criminal offense and start helping people rather than throwing them behind bars. If society's response to drug addiction and abuse were based more in health and compassion rather than revenge and punishment, Whitney Houston might very well still be alive today, along with countless other victims of the pharmaceutical and recreational drugs industries.




It is a known fact that the industry gives these big bashes where all the drugs one could imagine is put out there in front of you for your indulgence.  This is what I’ve been talking about in other posts; the industry bears some blame for these addictions, and they need to be brought to the table and made to face the music.  The question then is why?  To me it’s as clear as the back of my hand.  They know the risks and bank on it.  The only theory that seems plausible to me is that it’s a “matter of time" thing.  The artist gives their best years to the industry, making them ga-zilions.  By now the artist can demand what ever he or she wants.  They can make their own way with or without the industry’s backing or approval.  So how do they bring them back?  They introduce them to the poison and slowly get them hooked.  Now they competely own them, again and will use them until there is nothing left?  The industry ALWAYS wins because everything eventually reverts back to them, leaving the artist broken and dependent.  Once they start borrowing against royalties and ignoring their finances they end up owing everything they have acquired to them.  That when the downward spiral begins and the industry allows them to free fall all the way while they just sit and watch and wait.  What is done in the dark is finally allowed to come out in the open at the artist’s detriment. It’s a business, but from what I have seen over the years, it’s a dirty one.  A grand illusion.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: MJonmind on February 12, 2012, 02:39:03 PM

Hesouttamylife
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It is a known fact that the industry gives these big bashes where all the drugs one could imagine is put out there in front of you for your indulgence.  This is what I’ve been talking about in other posts; the industry bears some blame for these addictions, and they need to be brought to the table and made to face the music.  The question then is why?  To me it’s as clear as the back of my hand.  They know the risks and bank on it.  The only theory that seems plausible to me is that it’s a “matter of time" thing.  The artist gives their best years to the industry, making them ga-zilions.  By now the artist can demand what ever he or she wants.  They can make their own way with or without the industry’s backing or approval.  So how do they bring them back?  They introduce them to the poison and slowly get them hooked.  Now they competely own them, again and will use them until there is nothing left?  The industry ALWAYS wins because everything eventually reverts back to them, leaving the artist broken and dependent.  Once they start borrowing against royalties and ignoring their finances they end up owing everything they have acquired to them.  That when the downward spiral begins and the industry allows them to free fall all the way while they just sit and watch and wait.  What is done in the dark is finally allowed to come out in the open at the artist’s detriment. It’s a business, but from what I have seen over the years, it’s a dirty one.  A grand illusion.
I totally agree with this, and you put it well.

Andrea, to be fair, there is ALWAYS something happening at any given time around the world, always some political things happening, always some cover-up.  Unless there is some very clear link, I don't think there is one.


I do agree with Tink, that she is 48, and her lifestyle was hard on her heart.  But I do blame fame and the celebrity status on her early demise.  That's why Michael's song Hollywood Tonight is so pertinent for all stars like her. We all seek recognition and respect, money and social fun, but there is a stinger in reaching what we long for.


It seems clear to me she was having trouble coping with not being what she used to be in the public eye.

She partied hard the night before.

http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/11/whitney-houston-dead-partied/#.TzgftMX2Z8F (http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/11/whitney-houston-dead-partied/#.TzgftMX2Z8F)

Her last pics tell it.
 http://redbroward.com/2012/02/11/last-pics-of-whitney-houston/ (http://redbroward.com/2012/02/11/last-pics-of-whitney-houston/)

My heart goes out to her family and friends.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Aidan_81 on February 12, 2012, 02:41:16 PM
I hope her death is not one of those, I hope it was what I think it was.
But INDEED there is huge war coming and please don't forget the world is
so much bigger than Hollywood and we're about to lose hundreds of thousands of
people including children of all ages.
I see it all as horrible time overall - war itself was enough, but now we
have another music legend gone, how dark it gets. Who's next.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 12, 2012, 02:49:22 PM
A friend posted this pic on my FB page, thought to share it here too

(http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/4508/41714625259353481552310.jpg)
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 12, 2012, 02:55:47 PM
Some other pics .... ;)

(http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/3145/20432121072699637014745.jpg)

(http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/2176/62503472972773351206946.jpg)

(http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/2033/62780472972228351206946.jpg)


https://www.facebook.com/groups/187937057941474/

(http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/8515/42022410150624053874393.jpg)



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If Mr. "Hatman" appears in her funeral, then this means only one thing..........it's a hoax, no doubt!!! Well, let's wait and see what's gonna happen during the funeral and when is the funeral going to take place!!! The best is yet to come!!!
lmao!!
:lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: AKHTONI on February 12, 2012, 03:01:24 PM
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If Mr. "Hatman" appears in her funeral, then this means only one thing..........it's a hoax, no doubt!!! Well, let's wait and see what's gonna happen during the funeral and when is the funeral going to take place!!! The best is yet to come!!!
lmao!!
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The hatman and the blond lady too  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 12, 2012, 03:04:45 PM
^^ loll  AKHTONI :lol:


(http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/190/32463151642526923111924.jpg)

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Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 12, 2012, 03:12:51 PM
(http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/1006/image19nd.jpg)

Whitney's mother was one of Elvis' backing singers around the time of his live comeback in 1969. This was a time of great racial tensions between whites and blacks, but Elvis always insisted on having his black group The Sweet Inspirations with him on stage.
When he played the Houston Astrodome in 1970, the management of the Dome made it clear that the black girls were not wanted and they demanded that he cut them out of his act- Elvis furiously blew up at them and told them "If they don't go on, I don't go on!" Elvis demanded that the girls be picked up in a limo and treated with the same respect as him.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWzyIlte1Eo[/youtube]


ARTICLE : http://www.epgold.com/latest-news/1-latest-news/1058-whitney-houston-how-she-met-elvis-presley.html
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Access Hollywood aired day two of thee exclusive interview with Whitney Houston last evening, and we have the unedited footage.

In day two of the interview, Whitney told Access Hollywood's Shaun Robinson how she met Elvis Presley back in 1969-- (who in today's industry can say they met ELVIS?); she explained how her mother Cissy Houston (who sang with the gospel group Sweet Inspirations), use to sing back up for Elvis Presley and Aretha Franklin for many years.

Whitney on Elvis: "You don't actually MEET Elvis, you just have to LOOK at Elvis." She goes on to tell Shaun how they were sitting in a room backstage and Elvis walked in with his mink (real fur), glasses on, and she just looked at him and could not say anything (star struck). She said he was amazing to look at, and it was a moment she would never forget. [....]
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: fordtocarr on February 12, 2012, 03:19:50 PM
I like this one...looks like Neverland, hopefully it's not here already :)
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: loyalfan on February 12, 2012, 03:20:41 PM
http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/12/whitney-houston-dead-bobbi-kristina-hospital/#.TzgsicXKBvA (http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/12/whitney-houston-dead-bobbi-kristina-hospital/#.TzgsicXKBvA)


Whitney Houston Daughter
Bobbi Kristina Rushed to the Hospital

(http://ll-media.tmz.com/2012/02/12/0211-bobbi-k-tmz-wm-ex2-1.jpg)

Whitney Houston's 18-year-old daughter, Bobbi Kristina Brown, was just rushed to Cedars-Sinai Hospital in Los Angeles ... and it's her second trip to the hospital since her mother passed away last night ... TMZ has learned.

According to our sources ... Bobbi was taken out of the Beverly Hilton on a stretcher (see photo above). It's the same hotel where Whitney was found dead.

Law enforcement sources tell TMZ police and fire responded to a call for a medical emergency, but would not confirm who was transported.

According to our sources, Bobbi Kristina went to the hospital last night as well, but was not transported via ambulance. We're told she was "hysterical, exhausted and inconsolable."

As TMZ first reported, Bobbi Kristina got into an angry shouting match (http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/11/whitney-houston-death-bobbi-kristina-hotel-room/) last night with police officers outside the hotel room where her mother was found dead.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: AKHTONI on February 12, 2012, 03:24:35 PM
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When he played the Houston Astrodome in 1970, the management of the Dome made it clear that the black girls were not wanted and they demanded that he cut them out of his act- Elvis furiously blew up at them and told them "If they don't go on, I don't go on!" Elvis demanded that the girls be picked up in a limo and treated with the same respect as him.


 OMG! How great you are elvis. God bless you
Thanks Sim  :)  (http://www.jiveturkeyjives.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/tcb-elvis-logo.jpg)
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 12, 2012, 03:29:43 PM
Thank you for the link.

There's already a Whitney topic here: http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/smf2.0/index.php?topic=22175.msg389555#msg389555 Please post there.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 12, 2012, 03:33:41 PM
@AKHTONI: TCB ♥ ;)
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 12, 2012, 03:36:33 PM
La Toya just twitted this few minutes ago:
"Still SHOCKED over #whitney I thought I would share of a private photo of whitney and I taken at Rockefeller Center."

(http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/6502/ale61g6caaafyd.jpg)
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Stranger In Chi-town on February 12, 2012, 03:41:46 PM
='[[[[ i heard the news last night sometime after I came home from being out...I can't believe this has happened....May she rest in peace and in Nirvana. ='[[[[ You surely will be missed, Whitney. :( :( :'(
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Grace on February 12, 2012, 03:42:05 PM
Is there any plausible explanation why Bobbi would be wrapped in white sheets?

Either you go in your clothes or you get a blanket - but a bunch of sheets  :?: :?: :?:
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Tink on February 12, 2012, 03:54:43 PM
MAJOR, major Anxiety attack... :'(

I should know...I was rushed from the body of my daddy, to the ER...they mistook my first Anxiety attack symptoms for a heart attack!
I just wanted my daddy to be alive, not dead and broken in my arms. :'( :'( :'(
Worst day ever, turned into worst night, ever...

In this, I feel for Bobbi deeply.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 12, 2012, 04:04:57 PM
Nelson De La Nuez on Twitter
"Just want to relax & enjoy myself tonight in #Vegas..maybe find some place to watch the Grammys if any clubs are having parties/viewing it."

^^I checked Nelson De La Nuez's twitter page and he didn't write any RIP message about Whitney. Nothing! instead he posted plenty of various unrelated twits...

He only re-twitted David Copperfield's twit....
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David Copperfield on twitter
"Shocked at the passing of Whitney Houston.She'd always come to my shows with her mom.A friend and one of the great talents of our century."

How do i interpret this ^^
Nelson De La Nuez may not be such a great Whitney fan, maybe he didn't care enough about her as to post a RIP message on his twitter page.
But then if he didn't care enough about her to post something on her death, then why did he re-twit David Copperfield's message?? Why didn't he say something similar in his own words? And why didn't he re-twit somebody else's twit? Why did he choose David Copperfield? and why that only single twit on Whitney!?

Was it to suggest subtly that this is all just an Illusion?? Like Latoya said?
By re-twitting David Copperfield's message , David - a great illusionist! I believe Nelson De La Nuez made a reference to an illusion.

JMO!
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: LoveShyMichael on February 12, 2012, 04:11:52 PM
@Aidan81

I totally agree with you on the "distraction" of Whitney Houston's death that it will keep American's focused on it. Your right, war is right at our own front door. False Flag (war) has been brewing. It is what Obama needs to be the "savior' of the USA. He needs war to save face.

If Whitney did die of a heart attack, (Tink's thought) it won't just be because of smoking. Whitney lead a life of smoking, illegal & legal drugs. But ultimately, the prescription drugs is what is the deadliest. Hands down!!

Whitney lifestyle was nurtured by what she put in it. Someone that has a healthy lifestyle of running, nutrition, etc... their nuturing is going to positive.

For these artists to continue to perform at the levels that makes their record label money, they have to perform when exhausted, dehydrated, very little food to stay slim, the list goes on & on.

For that to happen, they are introduced to "uppers & downers" to be able to perform. Not only are they pushed by the supporting circle of "friends", they also put that high expectations on themselves.

The medical profession as a whole aren't all bad, but the more you move up the ladder of command, the more is motivated by greed & money & power.

As long as the medical complex can people people sick, on medication, using cancer causing toxins in our food & water, MSG, high -frutose corn syrup ( heavy loads of mercury) , sodium nitrate, among a few, an American will spend their whole life savings, to cure what disease those above have given the person, you'll be broke, pain will be subsided by the BIG PHARMA drug that will slowly help you slip away.......MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!!!.....NEXT!
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 12, 2012, 04:14:36 PM
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Nelson De La Nuez on Twitter
"Just want to relax & enjoy myself tonight in #Vegas..maybe find some place to watch the Grammys if any clubs are having parties/viewing it."

^^I checked Nelson De La Nuez's twitter page and he didn't write any RIP message about Whitney. Nothing! instead he posted plenty of various unrelated twits...

He only re-twitted David Copperfield's twit....
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David Copperfield on twitter
"Shocked at the passing of Whitney Houston.She'd always come to my shows with her mom.A friend and one of the great talents of our century."

How do i interpret this ^^
Nelson De La Nuez may not be such a great Whitney fan, maybe he didn't care enough about her as to post a RIP message on his twitter page.
But then if he didn't care enough about her to post something on her death, then why did he re-twit David Copperfield's message?? Why didn't he say something similar in his own words? And why didn't he re-twit somebody else's twit? Why did he choose David Copperfield? and why that only single twit on Whitney!?

Was it to suggest subtly that this is all just an Illusion?? Like Latoya said?
By re-twitting David Copperfield's message , David - a great illusionist! I believe Nelson De La Nuez made a reference to an illusion.

JMO!

Oh and i forgot! he even mentioned the word ILLUSION in one of his twits today!!

(http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/864/nelsonwhitney.jpg)
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 12, 2012, 04:31:08 PM
Whitney Houston Autopsy Completed, Results Pending Toxicology
http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/12/whitney-houston-cause-of-death-autopsy/#.Tzg9OoFWp3A

The autopsy of Whitney Houston is complete, TMZ has learned, but the results will be deferred pending a toxicology report.

According to our sources, a cause of death cannot be determined until the toxicology results ... which typically takes 4-6 weeks.

As TMZ first reported ... although the cause of death is unknown, it is increasingly looking like Whitney may have fallen asleep or lapsed into unconsciousness in the bathtub and drowned.

We're told Whitney had been drinking the night before and authorities believe a combination of Xanax and alcohol could have fatally sedated her -- although our sources say it is simply too early to draw any firm conclusions.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Tink on February 12, 2012, 04:55:18 PM
@Applehead, & all - Cocaine was the rich man's party favor, back in the '80s & '90s. The majority of the people who live in: Malibu; Bel Air; Holmby Hills; Beverly Hills; Hollywood Hills; Laguna Beach; Manhattan Beach; Marina del Rey – are NOT CELEBRITIES! Normally, the private parties are thrown by regular wealthy homeowners. It used to not be such a big deal, you know. When reports came in that coke led to heart attacks like Russian Roulette, they stopped giving it openly at the parties.

Unfortunately, I’ve seen some people, whose wealth and family, couldn’t save them. I then saw one of my friends who worked on the stock exchange spiral out of control. He couldn't hold it together because of his cocaine addiction. Not even for his lovely wife and baby girl! Addiction cost him EVERYTHING: his family; his job. Last I recall, he was living on the streets in his same clothes, following the Greatful Dead with the Rainbow Tribe - rather than hold a real job, and care for his family!! Someone who used to live in Beverly Hills, had become paranoid; delusional, schizophrenic. He tried telling me that "they" were trying to control his every move, and he'd then slap on an aluminum hat! He'd have a conversation with many - within himself.

THAT is but one example that I've seen drugs do to a human being: irreparably shatter a mind. Yet, he did it willingly to himself! You couldn’t stop him. If you tried to pull his coke away, he’d just shove it all up his nose, or swallow it! Cocaine; then pot; crack; LSD, peyote, and whatever else he could get his hands onto! He’d become a hollow man.

I've many, many more stories like that.

But I want you all to understand something, and I want to make this perfectly CLEAR: The record companies do NOT feed the artists drugs! That's illegal, and obscene.

What does happen, is a drug dealer, like what happened with Janis Joplin, gets access to someone who's an addict. And then they offer them drugs at WHOLESALE, and I do mean, LOTS and lots of drugs. Not in normal street corner amounts, either. 1/4 - 1 ounce of Cocaine, to entice them to come back.

Drug dealers don't give a damn, about what people do to themselves - they want to make money off their mark.

Xanax is a great anti-anxiety med, provided you don't abuse it.

I still believe Heath Ledger committed suicide, in going over the drug list - because it doesn't make any sense to take both daytime & nighttime drugs at the same time. I can only guess that to deem it accidental, was for insurance purposes.

And as much as I hate saying it: No one that I've run into, from the flower shop, to the grocery store, could think of one song by Whitney. None of them cared about another addict who destroyed her voice. Sad, sure - but nothing to cry over.

You can never replicate that feeling, girl; I'm so very, very sorry. You can't go through life, living in a dream world. But future generations can see what drugs do...destroy families, destroy lives.

Whitney, sister - I hope your daughter will be okay. For she's the one who's suffered the most, out of what you've done. I hope when all is said and done, she can be happy, and avoid the traps of addiction - which run on both sides of her family.

This prayer is for you, Bobbi...
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: alfarle on February 12, 2012, 05:07:28 PM
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By ALL MEANS....no disrespect.... But this link is exactly what I'm talking about in reference towards the media and their slander. :

http://hellobeautiful.com/gossip-news/sweet-sweetback/is-whitney-houston-trying-to-kill-herself/?omcamp=EMC-CVNL

I believe they are the most SHADY and evil....liars!
I just look at the date and it's a day before her death! Wow...

OMGGGG!!!! Did you see the pic below the article??? Whitney with PRINCE ??? OMG!! and did you see all that PURPLE color over that site !?? and Prince's PURPLE outfit? We're definitely looking at a HOAX!!!

(http://img571.imageshack.us/img571/7735/whitneyandprince.jpg)

@alfarle : you're amazing! thanks again for this info!!
You're welcome:) And I noticed it but at first didn't pay it much mind.

Pls forgive me but I kinda forgot what purple symbolized....lol

Color PURPLE is a HUUUGE clue in whatever this is!! Whether it's Michael's plan or the Illuminati's sick and occult death rituals!

First of all:
Prince's most popular song/album -  "Purple Rain" - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5l75skRMlXk
was released on June 25th 1984 - coincidence?? Don't think so!! Also the numerology of this date is: 2+5+6+1+9+84 = 35 ; 3+5 = 8 

According to Billboard magazine, the album^^ spent 24 [888]consecutive weeks at #1 on the Billboard album charts (August 4, 1984 to January 18, 1985) becoming one of the top soundtracks ever.
Purple Rain The Soundtrack was released along with the feature Film by the same name. The Movie “Purple Rain” with the Budget of $7 million grossed well over US$80 million at the box office and became a cult classic. - http://bombaystreets.com/archives/892

There are many other PURPLE connections that I discussed about on this thread:
http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/smf2.0/index.php?topic=22103.0
and on my FB page: https://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=217737221616636


Hmmm...I see. Thanks for explaining that to me. It's crazy bc purple is my favorite color. lol. But yeah....that is quite strange.....
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: ~Souza~ on February 12, 2012, 05:23:25 PM
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Whitney Houston Autopsy Completed, Results Pending Toxicology
http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/12/whitney-houston-cause-of-death-autopsy/#.Tzg9OoFWp3A

The autopsy of Whitney Houston is complete, TMZ has learned, but the results will be deferred pending a toxicology report.

According to our sources, a cause of death cannot be determined until the toxicology results ... which typically takes 4-6 weeks.

As TMZ first reported ... although the cause of death is unknown, it is increasingly looking like Whitney may have fallen asleep or lapsed into unconsciousness in the bathtub and drowned.

We're told Whitney had been drinking the night before and authorities believe a combination of Xanax and alcohol could have fatally sedated her -- although our sources say it is simply too early to draw any firm conclusions.

If she would have been drowned, they would have seen that at the autopsy.

I also want to ask people to lower the hoax talk about Whitney. As far as we know, she passed away and we should show some respect for her family. I am a huge fan of her music and I really hope this is a hoax, but there is nothing so far pointing to that besides some oddities maybe. Please wait a few days to see if more weird news shows up, but so far I have not seen obvious hoax clues like we saw with Michael. 
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: hesouttamylife on February 12, 2012, 05:24:09 PM
Tink I agree and know what you say exactly to be truth as I was a total wreck when my son was killed. Nothing and no one could console me.  I was somewhere else emotionally and mentally.  It was an out of body, out of mind experience that I will never ever forget..
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: alfarle on February 12, 2012, 05:31:41 PM
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Whitney Houston Autopsy Completed, Results Pending Toxicology
http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/12/whitney-houston-cause-of-death-autopsy/#.Tzg9OoFWp3A

The autopsy of Whitney Houston is complete, TMZ has learned, but the results will be deferred pending a toxicology report.

According to our sources, a cause of death cannot be determined until the toxicology results ... which typically takes 4-6 weeks.

As TMZ first reported ... although the cause of death is unknown, it is increasingly looking like Whitney may have fallen asleep or lapsed into unconsciousness in the bathtub and drowned.

We're told Whitney had been drinking the night before and authorities believe a combination of Xanax and alcohol could have fatally sedated her -- although our sources say it is simply too early to draw any firm conclusions.

If she would have been drowned, they would have seen that at the autopsy.

I also want to ask people to lower the hoax talk about Whitney. As far as we know, she passed away and we should show some respect for her family. I am a huge fan of her music and I really hope this is a hoax, but there is nothing so far pointing to that besides some oddities maybe. Please wait a few days to see if more weird news shows up, but so far I have not seen obvious hoax clues like we saw with Michael.


You brought up a very good point. If she was drowned, they would have seen it. So yes...it is best to wait it out and still keep the family in prayer. I can only imagine what Bobbi Kristina is going through. I too am the only child so I can imagine that is is very devastating for her as well as Cissy Houston. Just this whole situation in general is sad, and scary..... :(
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: mindseye on February 12, 2012, 05:34:45 PM
I came across this not long ago. not sure if it's ever been posted on the forum before. Sounds like MJ singing I will always love you  :(

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bfnhq447AZ0&feature=youtu.be[/youtube]
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: blankie on February 12, 2012, 05:44:16 PM
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Whitney Houston Autopsy Completed, Results Pending Toxicology
http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/12/whitney-houston-cause-of-death-autopsy/#.Tzg9OoFWp3A

The autopsy of Whitney Houston is complete, TMZ has learned, but the results will be deferred pending a toxicology report.

According to our sources, a cause of death cannot be determined until the toxicology results ... which typically takes 4-6 weeks.

As TMZ first reported ... although the cause of death is unknown, it is increasingly looking like Whitney may have fallen asleep or lapsed into unconsciousness in the bathtub and drowned.

We're told Whitney had been drinking the night before and authorities believe a combination of Xanax and alcohol could have fatally sedated her -- although our sources say it is simply too early to draw any firm conclusions.


I also want to ask people to lower the hoax talk about Whitney. As far as we know, she passed away and we should show some respect for her family. I am a huge fan of her music and I really hope this is a hoax, but there is nothing so far pointing to that besides some oddities maybe. Please wait a few days to see if more weird news shows up, but so far I have not seen obvious hoax clues like we saw with Michael. 


I'm very sad for Whitney  :cry: really  :cry:...I love very much her music and her wonderful voice, her loss is a pain ...but I'm here for Michael....only for Michael   moonwalk_/ .. and also I think ,unfortunately,  that the death of Whitney  is not a hoax.  :cry: :?   Love you all.  bearhug
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 12, 2012, 06:04:13 PM
Simon Cowell and Jermaine Jackson
compare death of Whitney to Michael Jackson


 http://www.examiner.com/tv-in-national/simon-cowell-and-jermaine-jackson-compare-death-of-whitney-to-michael-jackson#ixzz1mDPYaXMW


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Simon Cowell and Jermaine Jackson appeared on CNN tonight to talk about the death of Whitney Houston. Interestingly enough, both compared her death to that of Michael Jackson, who died of a drug overdose in 2009. Simon Cowell explained that Whitney Houston’s death is similar to Michael Jackson’s because, “You will always remember where you were and what you were doing when you heard the news.” Jermaine Jackson said that his heart goes out to Houston’s mom Cissy because, “We’ve been through it and it’s very tough.” Jackson added, “Whitney was incredible because she had a lot of influence from the greats before her. She gave it so much soul and conviction. That was a gift.”

Like Michael Jackson, Whitney Houston died young. Michael Jackson died when he was 50 and Houston was 48 years old at the time of her death. Both achieved a pinnacle of success that few recording artists can even dream of reaching. After the seismic shock of Houston’s death sets in, Cowell and Jackson both said tonight that they would focus not on Houston’s recent problems, but on the gift and legacy that she left the world.

Simon Cowell said on Piers Morgan Tonight, "She was one of the greatest voices in our lifetime. Whitney was the #1 singer that other singers want to emulate. People like that can’t be manufactured. They’ve either got it or they don’t."

Concerning her impact on the world of music, Simon Cowell stated that Houston’s mark would last for generations. He added that her music sounds as current now as it did when it debuted. “We must remember her at her very best. She was a fantastic artist, an incredible talent.” Cowell revealed that Whitney Houston was going to be a topic of discussion during this Monday’s X Factor meeting. After the recent bloodbath, Cowell was on the hunt for a big name talent.

Jermaine Jackson echoed the sentiments of Simon Cowell and explained that he was in Istanbul on his way to Los Angeles when he learned about Whitney Houston’s death. Like the world, he heard about the bombshell when he tuned into CNN. “We really cared about each other,” he explained. The two have a long history and were first introduced at the Beverly Hills Hilton, the same hotel where Houston died tonight. Clive Davis, who was Houston’s producer and biggest fan, made the introduction.

Concerning Houston's drug problems, Jermaine Jackson said that he was always confident that she would get back on the right track. He blamed the media for building a wall that wouldn’t allow family in, just as it did to his brother, Michael Jackson.

Jermaine explained tonight that when Michael died, Whitney Houston called him and was "very sweet." However, as in the death of Michael Jackson, Jermaine stated, “We are all accountable for our own actions.


Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 12, 2012, 06:17:50 PM
http://www.financemanila.net/2012/02/how-much-was-whitney-houston-worth-at-the-time-of-her-death/

(http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/5193/whitneymjelvis.jpg)



http://www.elvispresleynews.com/JerrySchilling.html

(http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/8615/elviswhitney.jpg)
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: MichaelsAngel on February 12, 2012, 06:21:35 PM
Police Put Security Hold on Whitney Houston Autopsy Results
Today 4:04 PM PST by NATALIE FINN


Kevin Winter/Getty Images
There won't be real answers for weeks regarding Whitney Houston's technical cause of death, but not even the usual "inconclusive" placeholder is forthcoming this time.

The Beverly Hills Police Department has placed a security hold on any conclusions determined today by the autopsy performed on the pop icon, who died yesterday afternoon at the age of 48.

MORE: Bobby Brown "deeply saddened" by Whitney's death, mom Cissy Houston calls it "unimaginable tragedy"

"Nothing is being released at this time," says John Kades of the Los Angeles County Department of Coroner.

Authorities issued a statement earlier that there were "no obvious signs of criminal intent," but the BHPD will not be releasing any more information regarding its investigation until at least tomorrow.

Standard protocol is for the coroner's office to confirm that the autopsy proved inconclusive pending the result of toxicology tests, so a security hold in which no comment at all is available is out of the norm.



Read more: http://www.eonline.com/news/police_put_security_hold_on_whitney/293684#ixzz1mDUv4FlF
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 12, 2012, 06:24:54 PM
“It is so hard to express in words what Michael Jackson meant to me. He was my friend. He was one of the reasons I got into the music business. He inspired me. He taught me. He laughed with me. He paved the way for African American artists to be played on MTV which was huge. My heart is full of grief for his family and his children and I pray that they take solace in the incredible legacy of his music and art.”
Whitney Houston [2009]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMrodzpnuv0&feature=youtu.be[/youtube]
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: ~Souza~ on February 12, 2012, 07:01:12 PM
Security hold on the autopsy results, yet law enforcement has told TMZ that she had water in her lungs? http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/12/whitney-houston-cause-of-death-drowning/
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 12, 2012, 07:06:48 PM
It's really bizarre to say the least that it takes them that much time to declare the cause of death, especially if they insist so much on the theme "not foul play" and they also know how she died "in the bathtub" and the autopsy was completed hours ago. Why can't they just say it?
What is going on there? Something is "prepared" now...a story? a false story to fool the masses with?
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: scorpionchik on February 12, 2012, 07:42:14 PM
Whitney's daughter Bobbi Kristina, as we know, was twice taken to the hospital. When I read that, I immediately thought of Michael's family members, no one was taken to hospital, no one reportedly had stress and anxiety attacks over Michael's sudden "passing". Mother was went oout for shopping instead.
Can you feel the difference when it is a real death vs. suspicious (alleged victim's) death? Moreover, all sibblings were laughing and looked happy according to multiple pictures.
 Will see how long it will take to bury Whitney. I am sure not 2,5 months. RIP sweety.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: paula-c on February 12, 2012, 07:47:55 PM
What Happened to Whitney Houston?
By VC | February 12th, 2012 |



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As someone who grew up during the peak Whitney Houston’s career, witnessing her downfall and, yesterday, her untimely death, has been difficult. Blessed with arguably the biggest voice ever heard in the music industry and endowed with a fiery personality that matched it, Whitney was the archetype of the diva superstar. Her song I Will Always Love You is now the ultimate song for aspiring singers to showcase their talents. However, no matter who attempted to take on that on that song, they exposed themselves to the same comment: “Good, but not as good as Whitney”. She was the personification of pure, God-given talent.

Unfortunately, the saying “The higher they fly, the harder they fall” has applied to Whitney all too well. The young girl who got discovered while singing in a church choir and who went on to become most awarded female act of all-time descended into a fiery hell of drugs, abuse and trauma.  Upon learning about her death, I immediately recalled a particular interview that disturbed me. It was the lengthy interview she gave Oprah in 2009, where she described her drug usage and her tumultuous relationship with Bobby Brown. While her words were unsettling, it was her entire demeanour that got to me. The diva personality was gone. The fire in her eyes was extinguished. She simply wasn’t the same person I saw during the 90′s. When she took the stage to sing her new single, the heavenly voice we expected to come out wasn’t there. It was as if her soul was sucked out of her.

Watching her discuss with Oprah, I kept asking myself: “What the hell happened to Whitney?” Most people would immediately reply “drugs”. But I had the sick feeling that there was more to it. Her eyes betrayed deep psychological and even spiritual trauma. Marijuana and cocaine, the two drugs she admitted using, do not make people this way. Even if she did crack or whatever other drug, there was something else in her eyes and I felt that Whitney was holding back the true cause of her downfall. I asked myself: Was she under mind control? Was there an occult ritual, black magic or outright, literal selling of her soul involved there? Did her “contract with unseen forces expire”? Was Bobby Brown her handler?  This portion of Oprah’s interview particularly struck me and, when I first learned about her death, this automatically came to my mind:

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Oprah: Did you think something was gonna happen in those drug-crazed, drug-filled days where you’re sitting for hours and days?

Whitney: There were times when he (Bobby Brown) would smash things, break things in the home. Glass. We had a big, big giant portrait of me and him and my child. He cut my head off the picture. Stuff like that. And I thought, “This is really strange.” So I figured, cutting my head off a picture, that was a little much for me. That was one sign.

And then there were other things like he started to paint in my bedroom eyes. Just eyes. Evil eyes that were looking at every point of the room.

Oprah: He started to paint on the walls?

Whitney: Yeah. The rugs. The walls. The closet doors. If I opened the door, there would be one picture. Then I’d close them and there would be another picture and eyes and faces. It was really strange. …

Oprah: What are you doing with all of that?

Whitney: I’m looking at it going, “Lord, what’s really going on here?” I was getting scared because I felt something was going to blow. Something was going to give.

- Source




Marijuana and cocaine can make people do crazy things, but this kind of behaviour was symptomatic of something a lot deeper. The cutting of one’s head and “evil eyes” are two obsessions of mind control victims (and/or spiritually disturbed people). Whatever the case may be, something awful happened to Whitney Houston in the years following her success. But what? What was Bobby Brown’s role? Difficult to say. In the same Oprah interview, Whitney described her mother’s attempts to rescue her.


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Whitney: She said, “It’s not worth it.” She said: “If you move, Bobby, [the sheriff will] take you down. Don’t you make one move.” And he stood there like he was scared.

And she said: “Let’s go. Let’s do this. I’m not losing you to the world. I’m not losing you to Satan. I’m not doing this. I want my daughter back. I want you back. I want to see that glow in your eyes. That light in your eyes. I want to see the child I raised. And you weren’t raised like this. And I’m not having it. So you make a choice, and you make it here today because I have a court injunction that says you have to go.” …

- Ibid.




Now, the day before “music’s biggest night”, Whitney was found dead in strange circumstances (apparently drowned in her bathtub) at age 48. As usual, drugs were almost automatically mentioned as a cause of her death. However, as it was the case for Michael Jackson, Amy Winehouse and so many others, the investigation will probably be a long tedious process, full of vague statements and many contradictions. There are already reports of Whitney acting erratic in the hours before her death.



“First she first visited Brandy, Monica, and Clive Davis at rehearsals for the mogul’s pre-Grammys party, where a Los Angeles Times reporter described her as reeking of alcohol, “visibly bloated,” and “disheveled in mismatched clothes and hair that was dripping wet with either sweat or water.” According to the Times, when Houston wasn’t mugging and gesticulating wildly for Brandy and Monica — who were doing a media junket, as well as preparing a duet — she was alternately skipping around the lobby or “wandering aimlessly” around the Beverly Hills Hotel grounds. Reportedly, guests had even called security to report the singer doing handstands by the hotel pool.

Houston’s Thursday was about to get worse… way worse. That evening, she attended a party headlined by Kelly Price at the Tru nightclub in Hollywood. As she exited, seeming  intoxicated, photographers took close-ups of her legs, which appeared to be spotted with blood streaks, along with scratches on her wrists.”
- Yahoo! News, Whitney Houston’s Tumultuous Final Days



Despite her death at the fourth floor Beverly Hilton Hotel, the traditional pre-Grammy show, with its glamour and glitz, took place at the same location. As they say in showbiz, “the show must go on”. The show will indeed go on and I’m somehow reticent to see the kind of tribute the industry music is reserving her. If Michael Jackson and Amy Winehouse are any indication, those who fall off the grace of the industry do not get a proper tribute…but a celebration of their sacrifice.

http://vigilantcitizen.com/latestnews/what-happened-to-whitney-houston/
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: mjfansince4 on February 12, 2012, 09:15:16 PM
there are reports that whitney's family (even her daughter, bobbi kristina) have been denied when they wanted to see her body. does anyone else find that strange? why couldn't any of them had a moment before whitney was taken to the coroner?
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Tink on February 12, 2012, 09:45:46 PM
Because the BHPD & Coroner didn't wish for the body to be tainted. They may suspect foul play, I hate to say.
Looking for evidence of being held under water, or if she slipped under water.

As for the "fire in her eyes," being gone - she was working on regaining it. Bobby burned it out of her, because of his agenda.

I'll tell you his agenda: AN ABUSER! We've had quite enough of them in the world, and most women haven't had the guts to leave them. 95% of women are MURDERED by their abusers!! Ergo, the reason for the fast autopsy - most likely for damaged tissues, bruising, etc.

Was there someone always in the other room, or did they show up an hour later?
What is the truth?

The occult is made up - it's never worked, or the world would've burned a long time ago.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: katy (MJFAN7) on February 12, 2012, 10:09:33 PM
thinking of Michael and Whitney's family & friends.. Rest in peace. :cry:
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: suspicious mind on February 12, 2012, 10:12:08 PM
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Michael Jackson “gone" before BET Awards, Amy Winehouse “gone" before VMA Awards, Whitney Houston “gone" before The Grammy Awards  :shock:   Nothing is coincidence.

got to admit those are some interesting timings of events.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Shamone Jackson on February 12, 2012, 11:21:45 PM
SlimPattyK,

That is odd.  Why does it say "im memory of Whitney Houston" on Britney Spears videos?  I checked the official MJVevo videos and it doesn't show it.  What gives?
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Grace on February 13, 2012, 12:03:29 AM
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Whitney found dead in the bathtub? Reminded me of Britney's video EVERY TIME
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YzabSdk7ZA&ob=av2e[/youtube]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YzabSdk7ZA&feature=player_embedded&video=unblocked (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YzabSdk7ZA&feature=player_embedded&video=unblocked)

This video offers a very clear "illuminated" speech.
The description says now: "In Memory of Whitney Houston (August 9, 1963 - Feb 11, 2012)"
I think this is tasteless.

Whoever is having control over this YT channel -
I stick to it:

this statement is tasteless and very much disrespectful.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: MJonmind on February 13, 2012, 01:17:57 AM
SimPattyK
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Nelson De La Nuez on Twitter
 "Just want to relax & enjoy myself tonight in #Vegas..maybe find some place to watch the Grammys if any clubs are having parties/viewing it."

 
 ^^I checked Nelson De La Nuez's twitter page and he didn't write any RIP message about Whitney. Nothing! instead he posted plenty of various unrelated twits...
 
 He only re-twitted David Copperfield's twit....
Quote from: SimPattyK on February 11, 2012, 08:07:00 PM
David Copperfield on twitter
 "Shocked at the passing of Whitney Houston.She'd always come to my shows with her mom.A friend and one of the great talents of our century."


 How do i interpret this ^^

 Nelson De La Nuez may not be such a great Whitney fan, maybe he didn't care enough about her as to post a RIP message on his twitter page.
 But then if he didn't care enough about her to post something on her death, then why did he re-twit David Copperfield's message?? Why didn't he say something similar in his own words? And why didn't he re-twit somebody else's twit? Why did he choose David Copperfield? and why that only single twit on Whitney!?
 
 Was it to suggest subtly that this is all just an Illusion?? Like Latoya said?
 By re-twitting David Copperfield's message , David - a great illusionist! I believe Nelson De La Nuez made a reference to an illusion.

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Quote from: SimPattyK on February 12, 2012, 05:55:15 AM (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/smf2.0/index.php?topic=22175.msg389435#msg389435)Whitney found dead in the bathtub? Reminded me of Britney's video EVERY TIME


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YzabSdk7ZA&feature=player_embedded&video=unblocked (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YzabSdk7ZA&feature=player_embedded&video=unblocked)


Things are definitely getting stranger by the hour. Makes you want to  /scream/ .
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: applehead250609 on February 13, 2012, 01:26:50 AM
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Whitney's daughter Bobbi Kristina, as we know, was twice taken to the hospital. When I read that, I immediately thought of Michael's family members, no one was taken to hospital, no one reportedly had stress and anxiety attacks over Michael's sudden "passing". Mother was went oout for shopping instead.
Can you feel the difference when it is a real death vs. suspicious (alleged victim's) death? Moreover, all sibblings were laughing and looked happy according to multiple pictures.
 Will see how long it will take to bury Whitney. I am sure not 2,5 months. RIP sweety.

A child without a mother  :'( ,this is the most important right now her daughter.I really hope that she will have at least the LOVE of her grandma  bearhug  :( .

1995: Whitney's message to her daughter
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NhF6vTIh8U[/youtube]

Whitney Houston - My Love Is Your Love (ft Bobbi Kristina)
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_n5A6ZCXuis[/youtube]

America music award Whitney & her baby
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJumRHFwVOI&feature=related[/youtube]
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: mjfansince4 on February 13, 2012, 01:36:11 AM
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Whitney's daughter Bobbi Kristina, as we know, was twice taken to the hospital. When I read that, I immediately thought of Michael's family members, no one was taken to hospital, no one reportedly had stress and anxiety attacks over Michael's sudden "passing". Mother was went oout for shopping instead.
Can you feel the difference when it is a real death vs. suspicious (alleged victim's) death? Moreover, all sibblings were laughing and looked happy according to multiple pictures.
 Will see how long it will take to bury Whitney. I am sure not 2,5 months. RIP sweety.

A child without a mother  :'( ,this is the most important right now her daughter.I really hope that she will have at least the LOVE of her grandma  bearhug  :( .

1995: Whitney's message to her daughter
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NhF6vTIh8U[/youtube]

Whitney Houston - My Love Is Your Love (ft Bobbi Kristina)
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_n5A6ZCXuis[/youtube]

America music award Whitney & her baby
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJumRHFwVOI&feature=related[/youtube]

this made me cry. it's just not right
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: MaryK on February 13, 2012, 02:15:36 AM
Bobbi Kristina....may God protect her and shelter her heart and soul.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: willddoMJ on February 13, 2012, 02:30:59 AM
if want connect this in a way that relates to a hoax, then look at the crime scene, what was there, compared other crime scenes.  The media has manipulated the truth of what happened already.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Tink on February 13, 2012, 02:35:15 AM
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Michael Jackson “gone" before BET Awards, Amy Winehouse “gone" before VMA Awards, Whitney Houston “gone" before The Grammy Awards  :shock:   Nothing is coincidence.

got to admit those are some interesting timings of events.

Death cares not for coincidences nor numerology - only that he does his job right at God's beckoning, not any human's schedule.
Never mess with God and HIS plans.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: applehead250609 on February 13, 2012, 02:49:13 AM
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fordtocarr
Reply #171 on: Today at 05:19:50 AM »
I like this one...looks like Neverland, hopefully it's not here already  :)
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Ford thank you very much for this wonderful photo  bearhug !!!
Here is whithey speaking about her "adventure" at Neverland lol  lolol/ !!!


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Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: alfarle on February 13, 2012, 03:26:19 AM
So tmz is coming out w/another report via twitter saying that" Bobbi Kristina fell asleep in a bathtub in the same hotel ".....

Anyway, I thought that there was security in Whitney's room (when she was getting ready for the pre grammy party) as well as another lady who was to help her get ready and they were the ones who noticed that Whitney seemed to be taking a long time. But with this report they're saying that Bobbi Kristina is the one who kept trying to get ahold of her mom when they noticed that she was un responsive.  :?: :?: :?:
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: applehead250609 on February 13, 2012, 04:29:03 AM
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Tink
Reply #184 on: Today at 06:55:18 AM »
@Applehead, & all - Cocaine was the rich man's party favor, back in the '80s & '90s. The majority of the people who live in: Malibu; Bel Air; Holmby Hills; Beverly Hills; Hollywood Hills; Laguna Beach; Manhattan Beach; Marina del Rey – are NOT CELEBRITIES! Normally, the private parties are thrown by regular wealthy homeowners. It used to not be such a big deal, you know. When reports came in that coke led to heart attacks like Russian Roulette, they stopped giving it openly at the parties.

Unfortunately, I’ve seen some people, whose wealth and family, couldn’t save them. I then saw one of my friends who worked on the stock exchange spiral out of control. He couldn't hold it together because of his cocaine addiction. Not even for his lovely wife and baby girl! Addiction cost him EVERYTHING: his family; his job. Last I recall, he was living on the streets in his same clothes, following the Greatful Dead with the Rainbow Tribe - rather than hold a real job, and care for his family!! Someone who used to live in Beverly Hills, had become paranoid; delusional, schizophrenic. He tried telling me that "they" were trying to control his every move, and he'd then slap on an aluminum hat! He'd have a conversation with many - within himself.

THAT is but one example that I've seen drugs do to a human being: irreparably shatter a mind. Yet, he did it willingly to himself! You couldn’t stop him. If you tried to pull his coke away, he’d just shove it all up his nose, or swallow it! Cocaine; then pot; crack; LSD, peyote, and whatever else he could get his hands onto! He’d become a hollow man.

I've many, many more stories like that.

But I want you all to understand something, and I want to make this perfectly CLEAR: The record companies do NOT feed the artists drugs! That's illegal, and obscene.

What does happen, is a drug dealer, like what happened with Janis Joplin, gets access to someone who's an addict. And then they offer them drugs at WHOLESALE, and I do mean, LOTS and lots of drugs. Not in normal street corner amounts, either. 1/4 - 1 ounce of Cocaine, to entice them to come back.

Drug dealers don't give a damn, about what people do to themselves - they want to make money off their mark.

Xanax is a great anti-anxiety med, provided you don't abuse it.

I still believe Heath Ledger committed suicide, in going over the drug list - because it doesn't make any sense to take both daytime & nighttime drugs at the same time. I can only guess that to deem it accidental, was for insurance purposes.

And as much as I hate saying it: No one that I've run into, from the flower shop, to the grocery store, could think of one song by Whitney. None of them cared about another addict who destroyed her voice. Sad, sure - but nothing to cry over.

You can never replicate that feeling, girl; I'm so very, very sorry. You can't go through life, living in a dream world. But future generations can see what drugs do...destroy families, destroy lives.

Whitney, sister - I hope your daughter will be okay. For she's the one who's suffered the most, out of what you've done. I hope when all is said and done, she can be happy, and avoid the traps of addiction - which run on both sides of her family.

This prayer is for you, Bobbi...

Tink thank you for your answers and again I'm sorry for what you went true  :( .Take care and be strong  bearhug !!!!!
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: LunaCielo on February 13, 2012, 04:56:26 AM
 :-\

I do not think at  the randomness of the death of Whitney...
I think as other artists have been killed by the powers that manipulate these persons;  many are inexplicably drowned in the bathtub.
For Whitney Houston  on the newspapers it  talks about "drowning" not for case... moonwalk_/
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: applehead250609 on February 13, 2012, 04:58:55 AM
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paula-c
Reply #198 on: Today at 09:47:55 AM »
“First she first visited Brandy, Monica, and Clive Davis at rehearsals for the mogul’s pre-Grammys party, where a Los Angeles Times reporter described her as reeking of alcohol, “visibly bloated,” and “disheveled in mismatched clothes and hair that was dripping wet with either sweat or water.” According to the Times, when Houston wasn’t mugging and gesticulating wildly for Brandy and Monica — who were doing a media junket, as well as preparing a duet — she was alternately skipping around the lobby or “wandering aimlessly” around the Beverly Hills Hotel grounds. Reportedly, guests had even called security to report the singer doing handstands by the hotel pool.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UgobeQRcyA[/youtube]

I don't think the article is correct cause if you listen to the video Monica asks her why is she wet and she said cause she'd been swimming  :) .This is crazy...her hair was wet because she was swimming.. that's what she and Monica are talking about...Whitney said she loves it and does two hours a day..and you see how the media presented it, LIARS  :x .
Something in the way Clive said, " Paying Tribute" don't sit well with me. He said it twice  :shock:  :? .I dunno bout him  :idea: .I also wonder what she handed Brandi,what was written on that piece of paper  :? ??????
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: alfarle on February 13, 2012, 05:05:54 AM
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paula-c
Reply #198 on: Today at 09:47:55 AM »
“First she first visited Brandy, Monica, and Clive Davis at rehearsals for the mogul’s pre-Grammys party, where a Los Angeles Times reporter described her as reeking of alcohol, “visibly bloated,” and “disheveled in mismatched clothes and hair that was dripping wet with either sweat or water.” According to the Times, when Houston wasn’t mugging and gesticulating wildly for Brandy and Monica — who were doing a media junket, as well as preparing a duet — she was alternately skipping around the lobby or “wandering aimlessly” around the Beverly Hills Hotel grounds. Reportedly, guests had even called security to report the singer doing handstands by the hotel pool.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UgobeQRcyA[/youtube]

I don't think the article is correct cause if you listen to the video Monica asks her why is she wet and she said cause she'd been swimming  :) .This is crazy...her hair was wet because she was swimming.. that's what she and Monica are talking about...Whitney said she loves it and does two hours a day..and you see how the media presented it, LIARS  :x .
Something in the way Clive said, " Paying Tribute" don't sit well with me. He said it twice  :shock:  :? .I dunno bout him  :idea: .I also wonder what she handed Brandi,what was written on that piece of paper  :? ??????



I just KNEW the media was fabricating saying that she was acting foolish throughout the hotel ...doing hand stands and stuff. They just LIE LIE LIE! She seemed like she was in her right mind the whole time. She did however seem like she was in a bit of a hurry but still.... nothing to make out like she was acting crazy about. Smh at the media....smdh
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: applehead250609 on February 13, 2012, 05:43:07 AM
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paula-c
Reply #198 on: Today at 09:47:55 AM »
“First she first visited Brandy, Monica, and Clive Davis at rehearsals for the mogul’s pre-Grammys party, where a Los Angeles Times reporter described her as reeking of alcohol, “visibly bloated,” and “disheveled in mismatched clothes and hair that was dripping wet with either sweat or water.” According to the Times, when Houston wasn’t mugging and gesticulating wildly for Brandy and Monica — who were doing a media junket, as well as preparing a duet — she was alternately skipping around the lobby or “wandering aimlessly” around the Beverly Hills Hotel grounds. Reportedly, guests had even called security to report the singer doing handstands by the hotel pool.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UgobeQRcyA[/youtube]

I don't think the article is correct cause if you listen to the video Monica asks her why is she wet and she said cause she'd been swimming  :) .This is crazy...her hair was wet because she was swimming.. that's what she and Monica are talking about...Whitney said she loves it and does two hours a day..and you see how the media presented it, LIARS  :x .
Something in the way Clive said, " Paying Tribute" don't sit well with me. He said it twice  :shock:  :? .I dunno bout him  :idea: .I also wonder what she handed Brandi,what was written on that piece of paper  :? ??????



I just KNEW the media was fabricating saying that she was acting foolish throughout the hotel ...doing hand stands and stuff. They just LIE LIE LIE! She seemed like she was in her right mind the whole time. She did however seem like she was in a bit of a hurry but still.... nothing to make out like she was acting crazy about. Smh at the media....smdh

Yes Alfarle they are liars as always ,and they did this to Michael too  :x .She was in hurry yes, it seems like she was probably running through the hotel, was trying to make a quick driveby- say hello and then run back up to her room.
I like to have beautiful memories about Whitney cause she gave us so much joy with her music.She was a singer and a actress,but I don't know if people knew she was a model once ,too  :) .She is simply BEAUTIFUL  :-* .
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Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 13, 2012, 07:13:02 AM
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Whitney found dead in the bathtub?
Reminded me of Britney's video EVERY TIME


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YzabSdk7ZA&ob=av2e[/youtube]


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YzabSdk7ZA&feature=player_embedded&video=unblocked (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YzabSdk7ZA&feature=player_embedded&video=unblocked)

This video offers a very clear "illuminated" speech.
The description says now: "In Memory of Whitney Houston (August 9, 1963 - Feb 11, 2012)"
I think this is tasteless.
Whoever is having control over this YT channel -
I stick to it: this statement is tasteless and very much disrespectful.

It is very bizarre indeed!
Britney's video seems to be prophetic in the "light" of this recent drama!


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Whitney Houston's Daughter Frighteningly Similar Incident the Day Before Whitney Died
http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/13/whitney-houston-dead-bobbi-kristina-bathtub/

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The day before Whitney Houston was found dead in her bathtub at the Beverly Hilton ... her daughter, Bobbi Kristina, fell asleep in a bathtub in the exact same hotel ... TMZ has learned.

According to our sources, friends of Bobbi Kristina tried knocking on her door repeatedly Friday night ... but she didn't answer. We're told they called security to get them to unlock the door and help them get Bobbi out of the tub.

Our sources say it happened on the same floor of the hotel where Whitney would be found dead the next day. We're told the room Bobbi Kristina was in was booked under Whitney's name.

As TMZ first reported, Bobbi Kristina has been hospitalized twice since her mother's passing and we're told her family fears she might be suicidal.


Whitney Houston Family Told She Died from Rx NOT Drowning
http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/13/whitney-houston-cause-of-death-prescription-drugs-drowning-atlanta/

Whitney Houston's family was told by L.A. County Coroner officials ... the singer did not die from drowning,
but rather from what appears to be a combination of Xanax and other prescription drugs  mixed with alcohol ... this according to family sources.

We're told Coroner's officials informed the family,
there was not enough water in Whitney's lungs to lead to the conclusion that she drowned.

Our sources say the family was told Whitney may well have died before her head became submerged.

And family sources tell us ... it was actually Whitney's aunt, Mary Jones, who discovered Whitney's body in the bathtub. Mary had laid out Whitney's dress for the evening on the bed and the left for about a half hour. When Whitney didn't come out of the bathroom, Mary entered, pulled Whitney out of the tub and began administering CPR.

And we're told ... Whitney's mom has arranged to have the singer's body flown back to Atlanta, as early as tomorrow. The family was told the Coroner has no problem releasing the body because there is no evidence of foul play --  and unless cops put a hold on the body, it can be flown back East.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 13, 2012, 07:21:27 AM
So from what TMZ is reporting in the article that I quoted above^^,
Whitney died from the same cause as Michael - "fatal mixture of drug prescriptions" and NOT drowning!

I guess this "coincidence" can be added to my list of other oddities that make me believe her death is just another HOAX!
It is "coincidence" no 12 in the list.

And I'll add as Oddity no. 13 - Nelson de la Nuez quoting David Copperfield's twit!
Yes , @MJonMind this is getting weirder and werider by the hour! ;)


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Ok, time for a Whitney death - news RECAP -
just to see the line of oddities/similarities in relation to Michael's "death"

1.
September 13th, 2011 [ 9+1+3+2+1+1=17 ; 1+7 = 8 ] - Whitney Houston's rep issued a shocked denial today to counter reports that the singer/actress has died  (http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/story?id=102477&page=1#.TzceE4FWqwc) (just like it happened with that Sun article about Michael having 6 months to live on December 2008)

2. TMZ is the first to have announced Whitney's death on February 11th, 2012 [2+1+1+2+1+2 = 9] (just like in Michael's case with TMZ being the first to announce it!). She died at 48 [4+8 = 12]

3. Although the cause of death is yet unknown, we are reminded of Whitney's problem with drugs! (WTF!! all the celebrities are drug addicts?? come on!! Whitney is just another friend of Michael's that mysteriously dies in such a brief period since his "death").
Something smells bad here!! The only possible way that this isn't true and that they are all dead, is that this is someone else's scenario! (read TPTB/Illuminati), otherwise... I can't explain all these similarities and coincidences!! this is all crazy!!

4. Several members of the Jackson family start twitting immediately after TMZ's article. Out of them all the most odd was Tito's twit:
"CAN YOU FEEL IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I HAVE BEEN BUSY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
just had to pop in i and say hey
my prayers go out for Whitney and her family
what a talent
had to make time to say that
she did Michael's 30th in new york in 2001
she wowed me--
i will be back soon--promise
much love-peace and happiness"

5. Mariah Carey, Orianthi, David Copperfield post their RIP messages on twitter too.

6. TMZ updates the initial article with this info : "She died at the Beverly Hilton Hotel. A police crime lab vehicle was seen outside the hotel[...]" and then TMZ continues to post various other articles on Whitney...

7. Whitney was working on her comeback album! Another similarity to Michael and Elvis cases!

8. And step by step the case repeats ! TMZ informs that: Police Seek Search Warrant in Death Investigation (http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/11/whitney-houston-dead-search-warrant/#.Tzc8bYFWp3B)
What will be the next  2 news? heart attack and murder!? Then it's HIStory repeating!! identical to Michael! Sorry but this story is so similar from the beginning till now, I just can't help noticing! it's so blatant!

9. @alfarle mentioned also was getting email news notices from blackplanetnews.com making statements like "is Whitney Houston suicidal?!" . They just wouldn't leave her alone! Not only that, but also news stories saying that she was broke and on her way to being homeless. (Just like in michael's case when they were spreading rumors of him dying and being broke and all that B.S.!)

10. hesouttamylife: "Michael Jackson “gone" before BET Awards, Amy Winehouse “gone" before VMA Awards, Whitney Houston “gone" before The Grammy Awards  :shock:   Nothing is coincidence." - So right!!! There are NO coincidences!!!

11. Whitney found dead in the bathtub? Reminded me of Britney's video EVERY TIME
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YzabSdk7ZA&ob=av2e[/youtube]


Once Is Chance, Twice is Coincidence, Third Time Is A Pattern

We have more than 3 'coincidences' in Whitney's case,
We have more than 3 blatant similar occurrences in all these celebrities cases!!
Whatever it is, we are being fooled!! We are fully entitled to believe that!

Whether this is part of Michael's death hoax-scenario OR part of some Illuminati death-scheme,
we can't possibly be 100% sure now!
But one thing is SURE: NOTHING IS WHAT IT SEEMS!!!


I don't want to make a Britney-hoax-Michael out of Whitney's dead thread, but please tell me if this isn't so ObVIOUS!!!  As much as it pains me to think that maybe Whitney really died, I can't help noticing all these connections!! This is more shocking than the death news in itself!! it makes me go nuts!!! Something fishy is going ON!
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: hesouttamylife on February 13, 2012, 07:33:09 AM
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Michael Jackson “gone" before BET Awards, Amy Winehouse “gone" before VMA Awards, Whitney Houston “gone" before The Grammy Awards  :shock:   Nothing is coincidence.

got to admit those are some interesting timings of events.

Death cares not for coincidences nor numerology - only that he does his job right at God's beckoning, not any human's schedule.
Never mess with God and HIS plans.

What are you talking about?   I'm only stating the facts here which has nothing to do with numerology.  Plus, I am not of the belief that every death is God's plan.  Satan's schedule  is just as busy.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 13, 2012, 07:39:05 AM
@hesouttamylife: you're so right ^^ ! ;)
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: ilovemjforever on February 13, 2012, 07:58:49 AM
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Sony/ATV is NOT "THE" only publisher, nor the largest, I think the second though.  YET, they hold publishing rights to the largest artists.
As in ones who have "died".  Things that make you go hummmm
"Michael Jackson"
Whitney Houston
John Lennon (The Beatles anyhow)
Elvis Presley
James Brown
Jimi Hendrix
James Morrison
This cant be a coincedence fordtocarr,this is very shady to say the least.All of those celebs died very mysteriously.Well i dont know whether theyre all dead,but this makes u wonder what the hell is going on.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: ilovemjforever on February 13, 2012, 08:08:20 AM
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« Reply #126 on: February 12, 2012, 11:21:55 PM »
What the hell are u talking about.I have a lot of respect for Whitney,she was an icon to me.I am not paranoid ,and the Illuminati are real,and they are known to whack of celebrities.You don't find it odd,that she died on the eve of the Grammys.This is so eerily similar to M.J. and Amy Wine house.I don't know what your problem is but i don't appreciate all  those stupid smileys.My point is she was either murdered,or it could be a hoax.And again how dare you say i don't have respect for Whitney,i am crushed by her death,and if she was murdered i want the guilty parties to be punished.Is anything wrong with that?You sound like the paranoid one.

I apologise because I called you paranoid, I did a mistake and I know that it was too much.Please accept my apologise but when I saw that you wrote that she may be an illuminaty sacrifice  I lost it,because I tougtht at her daughter if she ever saw that  :( .As regarding the Illuminati I decided to respect your decision,even if I don't believe in this myth .PEACE  /white flag/
Apology accepted Applehead no hard feelings.It is just my opinion that her death might not be accidental or natural.I respect your opinion that you don't believe in this myth.My heart goes out to little Bobbie she lost her mother and that is very sad.I am sorry if i offended you by my post,it was just me stating my opinion.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: ilovemjforever on February 13, 2012, 08:18:44 AM
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Paranoia + Constant Conspiracy Theories = Time for a vacation!

Her people were simply waiting for her to get out of the bathroom, to get her fixed up for the night. I'm making a note, that this is the SECOND smoker I've heard of/known, who's died in the bathtub! If I don't hear someone making noise from now on, I'm going to break the door down, I swear.

I've already made a bet with my best friend, on what I think happened: Heart Attack! It doesn't matter whether she took anything or not, because this is exactly what happened to my other friend, years ago!  :'( :'( :'(

SMOKING + Menopause can speed up Heart Disease, btw.

Women have different heart attack warnings than men; here they are:
Women's symptoms not as predictable

According to Patricia A.Grady, PhD, RN, Director of the NINR, "Increasingly, it is evident that women's symptoms are not as predictable as men's. This study offers hope that both women and clinicians will realize the wide range of symptoms that can indicate heart attack. It is important not to miss the earliest possible opportunity to prevent or ease AMI, which is the number one cause of death in both women and men."

PLEASE make a note of the symptoms - you could save the life of your mother, sister - even your own! :idea:

Women's major symptoms prior to their heart attack include:

Unusual fatigue - 70%
Sleep disturbance - 48%
Shortness of breath - 42%
Indigestion - 39%
Anxiety - 35%

Major symptoms during the heart attack include:

Shortness of breath - 58%
Weakness - 55%
Unusual fatigue - 43%
Cold sweat - 39%
Dizziness - 39%


Related NIH research into heart attacks in women includes possible ethnic and racial differences.



It doesn't matter whether she took Xanax, Alcohol, or whatever - if she had a Heart Attack, quite often the first sign is: A Heart Attack! In my family, only one person's survived their first attack...the others are dead.



"How does smoking affect my heart?
Smoking damages your heart in several ways:

The chemicals in cigarettes damage the walls of the arteries around your heart. This causes the buildup of fatty plaque that can harden and narrow the arteries. Smoking can also trigger these fatty plaques to burst and block the artery, causing a heart attack.
Smoking makes the blood more likely to thicken and clot, increasing your risk of a heart attack.
Smoking may trigger coronary spasms where the blood vessels of the heart are pinched or narrowed, causing chest pain or a heart attack.
The nicotine in cigarettes stimulates the release of chemicals that can raise your blood pressure.
Smokers tend to have high levels of LDL (bad) cholesterol and triglycerides—two types of blood fat that increase your risk of heart disease. Smoking also lowers HDL (good) cholesterol.
Does smoking increase my risk of heart attack or dying from heart disease?

A study that followed nearly 120,000 women nurses aged 30 to 55 for 12 years found that those who smoked were 4 times more likely to suffer a heart attack or die from heart disease than nonsmokers. The risks were even higher for women who started smoking before the age of 15—they were 9 times more likely to suffer heart problems. Smoking appears to be particularly harmful for young women. A combined analysis of 14 studies of heart disease patients showed that more than 70% of the women 45 years or younger were smokers.

Is smoking more harmful to women than men?

Smoking appears to increase a woman's risk of heart disease more so than a man's. In one study, smoking increased the risk of having a heart attack 57% more in women than in men. In general, women—especially younger women—have a lower risk of heart disease than men. Smoking seems to cancel out this natural protection.

Is light smoking harmful?

You don't have to be a heavy smoker to be at risk; even light smoking is harmful. In the Nurses' Health Study mentioned earlier, smoking just 1 to 4 cigarettes a day doubled the risk of having a heart attack or dying from heart disease.

Will quitting smoking help my heart?

Yes. Within 2 years of quitting, your risk of heart disease is cut by one third. After 10 to 14 cigarette-free years, your risk of heart disease is the same as a woman who never smoked. If you have already had a heart attack or been diagnosed with heart disease, it is even more important to stop smoking. Within 5 years of stopping , your risk of dying is cut by 36% compared with heart patients who continue to smoke.
Tink u make a good point with this post.I did not know Whitney was a smoker.I am a smoker myself and i have experienced very similar symptoms.The anxiety and fatigue are more common than the others.I am not saying that i believe she had a heart attack,but it is certainly a possibility.There are just so many weird coincidences that have me thinking foul play was involved.No disrespect,you make a very valid point,and u may be correct.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: ilovemjforever on February 13, 2012, 08:29:24 AM
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I can't help but wonder about what this huge news of Whitney's death is masking about other events going on in the world.  CNN talked about nothing but Whitney last night and today most likely.

Meanwhile, there are protests in Greece, a country that could very well go bankrupt.

Iran is on the verge of making a huge nuclear progress announcement, and I've been reading that Israel was planning to (or did?) attack Iran last night, around the same time Whitney's death was announced to the world.  I also read yesterday that over 30 million people in Iran lost access to foreign email services like Gmail, yahoo and hotmail.

It would seem that Whitney's death is a very 'convenient' distraction to what's happening in other parts of the world.

You always have to question what you're not hearing about when the media intensely focuses on one huge story.
Andrea you are right on darling,the media wants us to focus on Whitney,while other very serious things are going on.You make a very good point,and i agree,this is what the medias job is,distract the public with Whitney,Josha Powell,and any other interesting story they can come up with.At the same time,they aint saying nothing about the serious issues that's going on,u are so right,how convenient.Btw,my name is Andrea too,lol.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: ilovemjforever on February 13, 2012, 08:47:10 AM
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Michael Jackson “gone" before BET Awards, Amy Winehouse “gone" before VMA Awards, Whitney Houston “gone" before The Grammy Awards  :shock:   Nothing is coincidence.

got to admit those are some interesting timings of events.

Death cares not for coincidences nor numerology - only that he does his job right at God's beckoning, not any human's schedule.
Never mess with God and HIS plans.

What are you talking about?   I'm only stating the facts here which has nothing to do with numerology.  Plus, I am not of the belief that every death is God's plan.  Satan's schedule  is just as busy.
I totally agree.Some people believe that when someone is murdered,that is was Gods plan.I don't see it that way,either.Satan is very busy,he knows he only has a short time left.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: applehead250609 on February 13, 2012, 08:47:48 AM
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ilovemjforever
« Reply #126 on: February 12, 2012, 11:21:55 PM »
What the hell are u talking about.I have a lot of respect for Whitney,she was an icon to me.I am not paranoid ,and the Illuminati are real,and they are known to whack of celebrities.You don't find it odd,that she died on the eve of the Grammys.This is so eerily similar to M.J. and Amy Wine house.I don't know what your problem is but i don't appreciate all  those stupid smileys.My point is she was either murdered,or it could be a hoax.And again how dare you say i don't have respect for Whitney,i am crushed by her death,and if she was murdered i want the guilty parties to be punished.Is anything wrong with that?You sound like the paranoid one.

I apologise because I called you paranoid, I did a mistake and I know that it was too much.Please accept my apologise but when I saw that you wrote that she may be an illuminaty sacrifice  I lost it,because I tougtht at her daughter if she ever saw that  :( .As regarding the Illuminati I decided to respect your decision,even if I don't believe in this myth .PEACE  /white flag/
Apology accepted Applehead no hard feelings.It is just my opinion that her death might not be accidental or natural.I respect your opinion that you don't believe in this myth.My heart goes out to little Bobbie she lost her mother and that is very sad.I am sorry if i offended you by my post,it was just me stating my opinion.

Thank you very much  :) bearhug  !!!!!!
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Andrea on February 13, 2012, 09:24:17 AM
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I can't help but wonder about what this huge news of Whitney's death is masking about other events going on in the world.  CNN talked about nothing but Whitney last night and today most likely.

Meanwhile, there are protests in Greece, a country that could very well go bankrupt.

Iran is on the verge of making a huge nuclear progress announcement, and I've been reading that Israel was planning to (or did?) attack Iran last night, around the same time Whitney's death was announced to the world.  I also read yesterday that over 30 million people in Iran lost access to foreign email services like Gmail, yahoo and hotmail.

It would seem that Whitney's death is a very 'convenient' distraction to what's happening in other parts of the world.

You always have to question what you're not hearing about when the media intensely focuses on one huge story.
Andrea you are right on darling,the media wants us to focus on Whitney,while other very serious things are going on.You make a very good point,and i agree,this is what the medias job is,distract the public with Whitney,Josha Powell,and any other interesting story they can come up with.At the same time,they aint saying nothing about the serious issues that's going on,u are so right,how convenient.Btw,my name is Andrea too,lol.

Well hello Andrea!  Like MJonmind had said on a previous page, there is always something going on in the world that we regularly don't hear about.  I can't help but feel though, that Whitney's death was planned by...? The timing is very suspicious and the events surrounding her death even more so.  I don't know, it's just so tragic and shouldn't have happened.  But it's important to remain ever vigilant as to what else is going on elsewhere, when our attention is being diverted.  Perhaps her death was entirely accidental but I personally feel that's not the case.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: applehead250609 on February 13, 2012, 10:16:23 AM
WOW this is so beautiful  :'(  :'( :'( !!!!!

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6-Oja05YMM&feature=related[/youtube]


This is for a larger view  :BEAUTIFUL  :shock:  :'(  !!!!

http://tinyurl.com/7zubnu5
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Grace on February 13, 2012, 10:33:40 AM
I think we have all reason to remember her beauty and how much love she brought into our lives.

This is the fountain show from different angles:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVrMBiMgEk0&feature=related[/youtube]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVrMBiMgEk0&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVrMBiMgEk0&feature=related)

Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 13, 2012, 11:04:44 AM
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WOW this is so beautiful  :'(  :'( :'( !!!!!

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6-Oja05YMM&feature=related[/youtube]

This is for a larger view  :BEAUTIFUL  :shock:  :'(  !!!!

http://tinyurl.com/7zubnu5



oohh WOW!! Funny how there was also a Dubai Fountain Tribute for Michael too!!
Another "coincidence"???   :lol:


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMc5HSCOLoo[/youtube]
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 13, 2012, 11:11:47 AM
Whitney Houston Few Pills Recovered at Death Scene

http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/12/whitney-houston-presciption-pills-midol-amoxicillin-ibuprofen/

Law enforcement sources tell TMZ ... multiple medicine bottles were found in the Beverly Hills hotel room where Whitney Houston died ... but we're told there were NOT a lot of pills at the scene.

Among the pills ... ibuprofen (painkiller), Xanax (anti-depressant), Midol (for menstrual cramps), amoxicillin (for treating bacterial infections) ... and more.

We're told the amoxicillin was prescribed recently because Whitney had been suffering from a sore throat.

We're told some of the pills were old ... some issued in 2011 ... but some of the bottles were from 2012. We're told the bottles that were recovered at the scene did not contain a lot of pills.

Sources tell us ... some of the prescriptions were filled at the infamous Mickey Fine pharmacy in Beverly Hills ... where Michael Jackson had numerous prescriptions filled for Demerol and other drugs.

Law enforcement sources tell us ... it's possible Whitney suffered a heart attack caused by an adverse reaction to her medication, but it is simply too early to make an official call on the cause of death.

We're told the L.A. Coroner's Office has removed the hold on Whitney's body ... which means her family can now have Whitney transported back to Atlanta, where the singer will be laid to rest.



OK.
SO . . . . Were they Few or  multiple??
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Andrea on February 13, 2012, 11:20:52 AM
TMZ seems to be pulling up a lot of weird parallels between Whitney and Michael.  The Mickey Fine Pharmacy (wasn't it shut down?) like Sim posted above, plus this article:

http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/13/whitney-houston-beverly-hills-doctors-video/

Showing videos Whitney visiting medical offices days before her death (like MJ) and the bottom video, the still shows the camera lights on her with her hand raised, which reminds me very much of the 'last video' TMZ got of Michael, where he is splashed in white light with his hand raised. It's all just too weird.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 13, 2012, 11:24:23 AM
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From TMS article: http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/12/whitney-houston-presciption-pills-midol-amoxicillin-ibuprofen/
[ . ...]
Sources tell us ... some of the prescriptions were filled at the infamous Mickey Fine pharmacy in Beverly Hills ... where Michael Jackson had numerous prescriptions filled for Demerol and other drugs.

MJ's Former Pharmacy -- What the DEA Seized
http://www.tmz.com/2009/08/28/mjs-former-pharmacy-what-the-dea-seized/

TMZ has obtained a document showing what the DEA removed from Mickey Fine Pharmacy last week -- the place that sued Michael in 2007 for non-payment of a bill of more than $100,000.
The doc shows on August 21, the DEA took "60 prescriptions, 29 patient print-outs, 3 copies of DEA Forms 222 (Order Forms), and copies of inventories of controlled substances."
Mickey Fine was used extensively by Dr. Arnold Klein and other doctors who treated Michael -- it's also where Jackson obtained prescriptions
for Demerol and many other drugs.

(http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/8914/mickeyfinepharmacy.jpg)




Hello MICKEY!! ;) :lol:

(http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/8786/mickeyfine2.jpg)

For those who don't understand  what I'm talking about, there's this Mickey thread:
"Say HI to Mickey Mouse! (What's he up to?)" - http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/smf2.0/index.php?topic=22084.0
The pieces start falling just right, isn't it??
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: ilovemjforever on February 13, 2012, 12:06:09 PM
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TMZ seems to be pulling up a lot of weird parallels between Whitney and Michael.  The Mickey Fine Pharmacy (wasn't it shut down?) like Sim posted above, plus this article:

http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/13/whitney-houston-beverly-hills-doctors-video/

Showing videos Whitney visiting medical offices days before her death (like MJ) and the bottom video, the still shows the camera lights on her with her hand raised, which reminds me very much of the 'last video' TMZ got of Michael, where he is splashed in white light with his hand raised. It's all just too weird.
I agree,this is all to weird.I don't know,but i sense TMZ is trying to tell us something,but what.You know what else is weird,she died on Brandy's 33rd birthday.Coincidence?
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Grace on February 13, 2012, 12:28:50 PM
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Whitney Houston Few Pills Recovered at Death Scene

Harvey is playing the "we give it a different meaning" piano full steam again.

"Recovered"? Lost and found?

Or was it "Discovered"?

Or Re-covered - "Found and covered again"?



Could we please return from "Molto Con Fuoco" to "Andante Grazioso"? Thanks, Harvey.



The holistic family doctor and the "Mickey is fine" pharmacy.
So DEA was at the pharmacy last week before Whitney passed?
They discovered prescriptions for Whitney as well, then?
Or was it after her passing that they connected some dots?

This "fell asleep" - "got drugs" - "could not sleep" - "was frightened" - "anti-depressant / anti-anxiety" - "acted weird" - "put under" - "bankrupt" - circus is not ending.
Never surrender  /white flag/
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: loyalfan on February 13, 2012, 12:39:58 PM
and i notice it did not take long for the "SUN" newspaper to use the word "jacko" in a whitney headline,referring to the fact that similar medications to mj were found
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 13, 2012, 12:42:20 PM
ilovemjforever, Grace, Andrea, loyalfan: you've got some good points ! ;)


Right now I am experiencing a total  WTF?? state !!


I start feeling what that phrase really means: "The BEST is YET to come!"
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: EarthAngel77 on February 13, 2012, 12:47:39 PM
Mick=Mickey =Mikey= Michael

Fine

Is Michael Fine :?:


Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 13, 2012, 12:49:04 PM
Whitney Houston Body Moved From Coroner's Office

VIDEO :
http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/13/whitney-houston-body-van-coroner-morgue/#.Tzla44FWp3A

Whitney Houston's body has been removed from the L.A. County Morgue in a Coroner's van and is currently en route to an L.A. funeral home ... TMZ has learned.

We're told Whitney's family will now take possession of the body and it will be flown back East by private jet in the next few hours.

The Coroner would not comment on transportation details, but we've confirmed the body is in the van seen in the video.

The body should be arriving at the airport by noon Pacific time.




Whitney Houston Family Told She Died from Rx NOT Drowning
http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/13/whitney-houston-cause-of-death-prescription-drugs-drowning-atlanta/#.TzldFIFWp3A

Whitney Houston's family was told by L.A. County Coroner officials ... the singer did not die from drowning, but rather from what appears to be a combination of Xanax and other prescription drugs mixed with alcohol ... this according to family sources.

We're told Coroner's officials informed the family there was not enough water in Whitney's lungs to lead to the conclusion that she drowned.

Our sources say the family was told Whitney may well have died before her head became submerged.

And family sources tell us ... it was actually Whitney's aunt, Mary Jones, who discovered Whitney's body in the bathtub. Mary had laid out Whitney's dress for the evening on the bed and then left for about a half hour. When Whitney didn't come out of the bathroom, Mary entered, pulled Whitney out of the tub and began administering CPR.

And we're told ... Whitney's mom has arranged to have the singer's body flown back to Atlanta, as early as tomorrow. The family was told the Coroner has no problem releasing the body because there is no evidence of foul play --  and unless cops put a hold on the body, it can be flown back East.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 13, 2012, 12:55:24 PM
Celine Dion Drugs Killed Whitney Houston
http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/13/whitney-houston-dead-drugs-celine-dion/#.Tzlbq4FWp3A

Celine Dion isn't waiting for the coroner to give an official cause of death for Whitney Houston because she apparently knows what killed her ... drugs.

Speaking to "Good Morning America" today via phone, Dion wasted no time pinning Houston's untimely passing on drug abuse. She told Robin Roberts, "Whitney has been an amazing inspiration for me ... It's just really unfortunate that drugs, bad people or bad influence took over. It took over her dreams. It took over her love and motherhood."

Dion immediately linked Houston's death with other famous people who died from drugs. She went on to say, "When you think about Elvis Presley and Marilyn Monroe and Michael Jackson and Amy Winehouse, to get into drugs like that, for whatever reason. Is it because of the stress and bad influence? What happens when you have everything?"

A cause of death has not yet been determined, but sources close to Houston's family tell TMZ the coroner has told them she died from Xanax and other prescription drugs mixed with alcohol.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 13, 2012, 12:59:34 PM
Whitney Houston Death Beverly Hills PD Speaks Out [LIVE]

http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/13/whitney-houston-news-conference/#.TzldM4FWp3A

The Beverly Hills Police Department is expected to make a statement this morning concerning the death of Whitney Houston.

The BHPD responded to the scene at the Beverly Hilton hotel Saturday where Whitney's body was found, submerged in a bath tub.

Cops say first responders were told ... "Ms. Houston was discovered in her bathtub by a member of her personal staff at approximately 3:30 pm on Saturday February 11th. She was underwater and apparently unconscious.  Ms. Houston was pulled from the tub by members of her staff and hotel security was promptly notified."

The news conference is scheduled for 11:15am.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Grace on February 13, 2012, 01:04:12 PM
Most of the copy-and-paste journalists were not even getting the right hotel name out of their fingers - not to mention out of their mouth.

Cuckoo!

It was Beverly Hilton Hotel, not Beverly Hills Hotel!

(http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/pc/Scenes+Beverly+Hilton+hotel+singer+Whitney+JnO0oTul5eml.jpg)

"Burn all tabloids" was circumscribing the situation in a too limited perception, I'm afraid.

Nonsense blubbering scribblers have become a plague all over the information channels and so-said "serious" media are not exempt. Sigh.

Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: LoveShyMichael on February 13, 2012, 01:09:11 PM
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Sony/ATV is NOT "THE" only publisher, nor the largest, I think the second though.  YET, they hold publishing rights to the largest artists.
As in ones who have "died".  Things that make you go hummmm
"Michael Jackson"
Whitney Houston
John Lennon (The Beatles anyhow)
Elvis Presley
James Brown
Jimi Hendrix
James Morrison
This cant be a coincedence fordtocarr,this is very shady to say the least.All of those celebs died very mysteriously.Well i dont know whether theyre all dead,but this makes u wonder what the hell is going on.

Seems to me, that these performers 'WE'RE" top performers at one time. The music that SONY will make off them with every song played is...ching ching.....

What seems like it consistent, is that these performers we're all trying to make come backs, but have been slow on the comebacks. With these artists comes royalties on the songs Sont already has.

I feel if the artist retires on his own & isn't plagued by negative press, Sony will continue to make money, off the artists prevous music, because he left on a positive note.

When the artists gets bad "press", added in the artists using drugs, some fans are turned off by that, & could deter from buying again if the artist tries to make a come back & is still battling negative "press".

I'm going to give you a GREAT EXAMPLE.....     

Brett Favre

I"m from Wisconsin, bout 30 miles from Green Bay. When Brett retired as a Green Bay Packer, fans rushed out to buy his jersey, his books, magazines, etc....He retired as a Packer......so we thought.......then he decides to come out and say he wants to play football, but plays mind games with his fans & NFL league as a whole. He comes out of retirement. Plays for the Jets......( mind you, his #4 wasn't a big hit on NFL gear, etc) then he decides to he's going to play for the Vikings. (same #4) with now the fans from not only Greenbay feeling dejected, now he's got Jet fans feeling betrayed, & Viking fans feeling the same way. 

When Brett retired as a Packer, I bought his retirement books, newspapers, etc......everyone felt great he was retiring as a Green Bay Packer.....money is rolling in because he started with Green Bay, he retired a Packer......well......

The companies that make thier most money off a artist/athelete is when they come into the business. They are "fresh", not enough of the private struggles don't come in till later in their career.

So you have Brett, who "retired", as a Packer, then he decides to come back, but now the true colors of Brett have surfaced, (arrogant, selfish, drug addiction (which came out when he was still playing for Green Bay, but he was young enough to redeem himself) & then WANTS  to play for another team in our same division?

Packer Fans we're buying his #4 in record sales, when Brett retired as a Green Bay Packer. He left a postive words of encouragement upon leaving the fans.

When he decided to "un-retire", & then his  arrogance of his selfishness surfaced, (which he kept masked pretty damn good in Green Bay) the sales of #4 just plummetted.

I won't buy anything of Brett Favre's of any #4 again. (Green Bay, Jets, or Vikings)

To me, Brett isn't "marketable" anymore in his younger Green Bay image.

NFL apparrel doesn't product his numbers like they did before, they cut their losses, & continuing to keep up the image of his younger days, just makes him look stupid.

So when an athlete/artist is in the prime of stages, the (record labels/NFL, ) have to keep that image going as long as they continue to make money.

Once that athlete/artist retires, then wants to make a come back, & their imaged has been tarnished by use of drugs, bad press. or just bad choices, they might have a chance.

But in the final stages of making the record labels/NFL apparrel money, the fans have to have a POSITIVE image of their athlete/artists LEAVING the industry. So welcoming them back can be POSITIVE.

If during the "off time" the athelete/artists is plagued with drugs, police, selfishness, arrogance, etc....the $$$$ that can be made off that person has just vanished.

By looking at the list of names on the SONY list of "unexpected disappearances/death" are artists that we're in the prime with the songs that SONY already owns. Any new songs, that are made after a "come back" won't bring them the royalties that we're there before the artists had his/her personal woes.

So athletes/artists can become .....disposable!


Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 13, 2012, 01:13:38 PM
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Whitney Houston Death Beverly Hills PD Speaks Out [LIVE]

http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/13/whitney-houston-news-conference/#.TzldM4FWp3A

The Beverly Hills Police Department is expected to make a statement this morning concerning the death of Whitney Houston.

The BHPD responded to the scene at the Beverly Hilton hotel Saturday where Whitney's body was found, submerged in a bath tub.

Cops say first responders were told ... "Ms. Houston was discovered in her bathtub by a member of her personal staff at approximately 3:30 pm on Saturday February 11th. She was underwater and apparently unconscious.  Ms. Houston was pulled from the tub by members of her staff and hotel security was promptly notified."

The news conference is scheduled for 11:15am.

LIVE NOW
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 13, 2012, 01:17:19 PM
 WTF?? WTF?? WTF??


Diddy Hospitalized
http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/13/diddy-hospitalized-p-diddy-playboy-mansion-migraine/#.Tzlg9oFWp3A

(http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/8296/0213pdiddyex.jpg)

Diddy was hospitalized this AM for an extreme migraine ... TMZ has learned.

The mogul hosted a post-Grammy party at the Playboy Mansion Sunday night.  After the party, Diddy went home and got symptoms of a massive headache.

Diddy's entourage became so concerned ... they drove him to the UCLA  emergency room -- btw, the same place where Michael Jackson was pronounced dead.

Diddy was treated and is back at home ... feeling a lot better.  A Diddy source tells us ... the migraine was unrelated to anything that went down at the Mansion.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: fordtocarr on February 13, 2012, 01:21:31 PM
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Sony/ATV is NOT "THE" only publisher, nor the largest, I think the second though.  YET, they hold publishing rights to the largest artists.
As in ones who have "died".  Things that make you go hummmm
"Michael Jackson"
Whitney Houston
John Lennon (The Beatles anyhow)
Elvis Presley
James Brown
Jimi Hendrix
James Morrison
This cant be a coincedence fordtocarr,this is very shady to say the least.All of those celebs died very mysteriously.Well i dont know whether theyre all dead,but this makes u wonder what the hell is going on.

Seems to me, that these performers 'WE'RE" top performers at one time. The music that SONY will make off them with every song played is...ching ching.....

What seems like it consistent, is that these performers we're all trying to make come backs, but have been slow on the comebacks. With these artists comes royalties on the songs Sont already has.

I feel if the artist retires on his own & isn't plagued by negative press, Sony will continue to make money, off the artists prevous music, because he left on a positive note.

When the artists gets bad "press", added in the artists using drugs, some fans are turned off by that, & could deter from buying again if the artist tries to make a come back & is still battling negative "press".

I'm going to give you a GREAT EXAMPLE.....     

Brett Favre

I"m from Wisconsin, bout 30 miles from Green Bay. When Brett retired as a Green Bay Packer, fans rushed out to buy his jersey, his books, magazines, etc....He retired as a Packer......so we thought.......then he decides to come out and say he wants to play football, but plays mind games with his fans & NFL league as a whole. He comes out of retirement. Plays for the Jets......( mind you, his #4 wasn't a big hit on NFL gear, etc) then he decides to he's going to play for the Vikings. (same #4) with now the fans from not only Greenbay feeling dejected, now he's got Jet fans feeling betrayed, & Viking fans feeling the same way. 

When Brett retired as a Packer, I bought his retirement books, newspapers, etc......everyone felt great he was retiring as a Green Bay Packer.....money is rolling in because he started with Green Bay, he retired a Packer......well......

The companies that make thier most money off a artist/athelete is when they come into the business. They are "fresh", not enough of the private struggles don't come in till later in their career.

So you have Brett, who "retired", as a Packer, then he decides to come back, but now the true colors of Brett have surfaced, (arrogant, selfish, drug addiction (which came out when he was still playing for Green Bay, but he was young enough to redeem himself) & then WANTS  to play for another team in our same division?

Packer Fans we're buying his #4 in record sales, when Brett retired as a Green Bay Packer. He left a postive words of encouragement upon leaving the fans.

When he decided to "un-retire", & then his  arrogance of his selfishness surfaced, (which he kept masked pretty damn good in Green Bay) the sales of #4 just plummetted.

I won't buy anything of Brett Favre's of any #4 again. (Green Bay, Jets, or Vikings)

To me, Brett isn't "marketable" anymore in his younger Green Bay image.

NFL apparrel doesn't product his numbers like they did before, they cut their losses, & continuing to keep up the image of his younger days, just makes him look stupid.

So when an athlete/artist is in the prime of stages, the (record labels/NFL, ) have to keep that image going as long as they continue to make money.

Once that athlete/artist retires, then wants to make a come back, & their imaged has been tarnished by use of drugs, bad press. or just bad choices, they might have a chance.

But in the final stages of making the record labels/NFL apparrel money, the fans have to have a POSITIVE image of their athlete/artists LEAVING the industry. So welcoming them back can be POSITIVE.

If during the "off time" the athelete/artists is plagued with drugs, police, selfishness, arrogance, etc....the $$$$ that can be made off that person has just vanished.

By looking at the list of names on the SONY list of "unexpected disappearances/death" are artists that we're in the prime with the songs that SONY already owns. Any new songs, that are made after a "come back" won't bring them the royalties that we're there before the artists had his/her personal woes.

So athletes/artists can become .....disposable!




Very interesting.  I can't help my mind from thinking that it's quite ironic.  In the long run, we know Michael is alive, and scooping up the chaching from royalties on these other dead artists, but it does again make one wonder about Sony or "the catalog" being part of the reasons for the hoax.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 13, 2012, 01:44:21 PM
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Tito Jackson on twitter :shock: smiley_spider

"CAN YOU FEEL IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I HAVE BEEN BUSY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
just had to pop in i and say hey
my prayers go out for Whitney and her family
what a talent
had to make time to say that
she did michael"s 30th in new york in 2001
she wowed me--
i will be back soon--promise
much love-peace and happiness"


hummmm.... yeah I can feel it!!!


Tito Jackson on twitter
"i said it is tito time
tito time"


TITO time ?? This reminded me of Michael in "Ghosts": "it's GAME time!"  :lol: :lol:


POST-edit: error correction - it was someone else re-twitting Tito ... I thought it was him tweeting again! but it's good I caught what I had missed the first time, namely the "TITO time" part  :lol:

Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: diggyon on February 13, 2012, 01:46:06 PM
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Whitney Houston Few Pills Recovered at Death Scene

Harvey is playing the "we give it a different meaning" piano full steam again.

"Recovered"? Lost and found?

Or was it "Discovered"?

Or Re-covered - "Found and covered again"?



Could we please return from "Molto Con Fuoco" to "Andante Grazioso"? Thanks, Harvey.


Yeah, and add to that a little "Ritardando"  at the end because right now I don't understand anything at all!!!!

Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: MJonmind on February 13, 2012, 01:49:39 PM
The day before she dies, Whitney seems extremely passionate about kissing and loving, almost like the goodbyes that Michael gave at Klein office, not long before his “death”.  Like she somehow KNEW...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UgobeQRcyA&feature=player_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UgobeQRcyA&feature=player_embedded)


Hessouttamylife
Quote
Plus, I am not of the belief that every death is God's plan.  Satan's schedule  is just as busy.
I respectfully disagree, because God is almightly and always in complete control.
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1 Samuel 2:6
6The LORD killeth, and maketh alive: he bringeth down to the grave, and bringeth up.
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Job 1:2121And said, Naked came I out of my mother's womb, and naked shall I return thither: the LORD gave, and the LORD hath taken away; blessed be the name of the LORD.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: paula-c on February 13, 2012, 02:06:56 PM
TMZ is a lot of shit, so far, i e seen are many contradictions and large differences in what happened on June 25, nothing that would make me think that Whitney is alive, i cannot stop thinking about the time it was declared dead 3:55 am, the day of the death February 11 and its age 48 years, the numbers are also used to do harm.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: paula-c on February 13, 2012, 02:15:04 PM
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I can't help but wonder about what this huge news of Whitney's death is masking about other events going on in the world.  CNN talked about nothing but Whitney last night and today most likely.

Meanwhile, there are protests in Greece, a country that could very well go bankrupt.

Iran is on the verge of making a huge nuclear progress announcement, and I've been reading that Israel was planning to (or did?) attack Iran last night, around the same time Whitney's death was announced to the world.  I also read yesterday that over 30 million people in Iran lost access to foreign email services like Gmail, yahoo and hotmail.

It would seem that Whitney's death is a very 'convenient' distraction to what's happening in other parts of the world.

You always have to question what you're not hearing about when the media intensely focuses on one huge story.






And i agree with what he said Andrea.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 13, 2012, 02:15:18 PM
Whitney Houston's Body To Be Flown Back East On Tyler Perry's Jet
http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/13/whitney-houston-body-tyler-perry-private-jet/#.TzlmsoFWp3A

(http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/5165/0213tylerperrywhitneyho.jpg)

Whitney Houston's body will be transported to the East Coast today on Tyler Perry's private jet ... TMZ has learned.
We're told Whitney's body is currently on its way to the airport -- and the plane will take off as soon as it arrives.

Sources tell TMZ, Tyler Perry rushed to the L.A. hospital Saturday as soon as he heard about Whitney's death -- and immediately offered up his private plane to the family.
We're told Whitney's funeral is taking place somewhere in New Jersey later this week.

__________________________________________________________________________________________________

In this next article TMZ is making assumptions! they start saying that the possible cause of death was a heart attack!

____________________________________________________________________________________________________

Whitney Houston's Final Meal Rx and Alcohol
http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/13/whitney-houston-alcohol-hotel-room-drugs-alcohol-heineken-champagne-xanax/#.Tzlm7YFWp3A

(http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/153/0213alcoholfoundinwhitn.jpg)

Whitney Houston consumed alcoholic beverages shortly before she died, and the mix of prescription drugs and booze could have produced the fatal result.

TMZ has obtained photos of the room where Whitney died, showing remnants of her final meal.  We're told she ordered a hamburger, fries, a turkey sandwich and jalapenos.  The picture also shows a Heineken can and an empty champagne glass.  Sources say the glass had been filled with champagne.

The picture (below) was shot in the bathroom after Whitney's body was removed and shows a tray which contained the turkey sandwich and jalapenos.  Family sources say Whitney ate the burger and fries and took the turkey sandwich and jalapenos into the bathroom where she planned on eating both items after her bath.

If you look closely you can see water on the bathroom floor.

As TMZ first reported, authorities told the family Whitney may have suffered a fatal reaction from mixing drugs and alcohol, possibly leading to a heart attack.

(http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/2791/0213bathroomwherewhitne.jpg)





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God forgive me, but I didn't believe in the Whitney dead news since second 1.

Call me crazy or hoax-fried but I believe this is all part of MJ's hoax-scenario!
If they announce later on that she also died of a heart attack , then it's gonna be clear as daylight to me!

The only possible way that this isn't true and that they are all dead, is that this is someone else's scenario! (read TPTB/Illuminati), otherwise... I can't explain all these similarities and coincidences!! this is all crazy!!  :shock:
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: blankie on February 13, 2012, 02:25:37 PM
 

Sweet  :cry: she speaks about Michael..  bearhug



   [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAMNo38EeFo[/youtube]
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: voiceforthesilent on February 13, 2012, 02:30:22 PM
I wish TMZ , etc.. wouldn't show these pictures of the bathroom and "her final meal". It think it's totally disrespectful and in poor taste.

I believe this was a terrible tragedy, a mistake on her part to mix alcohol and medication and she simply passed out in the bathtub. I feel horrible for the family, especially her only daughter. My prayers have been constant since this happened, as I'm sure others are too.

I am glad that friends and celebrities are reaching out to her family. Tyler Perry seems like a kind soul offering up his plane like he did.

Blessings.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 13, 2012, 02:32:23 PM
BIZARRE Similarities!!!
Amy Winehouse Autopsy Inconclusive, Further Toxicology Tests Needed [VIDEO]
Amy Winehouse Dead: Possible Reasons - A Broken Heart + Drugs and Drink Cocktail (PHOTOS)

"There have been speculations that the British singer died because of a drug and alcohol binge."

http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/186271/20110725/amy-winehouse-cause-of-death-drugs.htm
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: blankie on February 13, 2012, 02:44:03 PM
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I wish TMZ , etc.. wouldn't show these pictures of the bathroom and "her final meal". It think it's totally disrespectful and in poor taste.

I believe this was a terrible tragedy, a mistake on her part to mix alcohol and medication and she simply passed out in the bathtub. I feel horrible for the family, especially her only daughter. My prayers have been constant since this happened, as I'm sure others are too.

I am glad that friends and celebrities are reaching out to her family. Tyler Perry seems like a kind soul offering up his plane like he did.

Blessings.


Great words and  and thoughts
I totally agree with you.


 moonwalk_/
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: voiceforthesilent on February 13, 2012, 02:46:39 PM
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Sweet  :cry: she speaks about Michael..  bearhug



   [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAMNo38EeFo[/youtube]

Thanks for sharing these videos. I think I need to stop watching them because my heart becomes angry all over again at the way she was treated in her last days. 

I remember videos of some of her final concerts that didn't go so well. Her fans were so quick to jump on the wagon and love her when she was on the top of her game but when trouble struck they quickly tore her down. No, that wasn't the reason for her drug problems but I'm sure the pressure put on by "fans" certainly didn't help.

For the most part I think that is where Michael's fans differed than others because they constantly stood by his side even during hard times, and maybe it's because they knew he really loved them. IDK.

The same things that she said about Michael deserving love, compassion, and respect applies also to her and I hope now that she's no longer here to grace us with her lovely presence that people will stop to consider their actions towards others and maybe show a little more love, compassion, and respect to all.

Whitney - God bless you and thank you.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: blankie on February 13, 2012, 02:51:33 PM
 bearhug  In these moments  I understand even more how is  important this our Hoax Family.....

                          Love you Voice  bearhug, love you all  bearhug
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 13, 2012, 02:52:27 PM
HEART ATTACK - in the BATHTUB- 3rd July 1971 - Jim Morrison
HEART ATTACK - 16th August 1977 - Elvis "died"
HEART ATTACK - 26th June 1979 - Elvis' father died
HEART ATTACK - 25th December 2006 - James Brown died
HEART ATTACK - 25th June 2009 - MJ "died"
HEART ATTACK - 23rd March 2011 - Liz Taylor died
HEART ATTACK - 23rd July 2011 - Amy Winehouse died
HEART ATTACK - 24th August 2011 - Frank Dileo died
possible?? HEART ATTACK ?? - in the BATHTUB 11th February 2012 - Whitney Houston died

(http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/5356/21536921932940475016810.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/20/21536921932940475016810.jpg/)

I took this screen shot^^  from a video about exposing the music industry. I don't remember exactly which one from this series: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DikoLMfnEgE

Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 13, 2012, 03:28:16 PM
Jermaine Jackson on twitter
"The right words fail me to sum up the sense of loss following the passing of Whitney ... a wonderful woman, a true heart, and an immense artist. Now is not the time for anyone to indulge in negative speculation. It is a time to honor her talent and a voice which the world enjoyed. She is gone too soon, but that incredible voice will live on as an eternal reminder of her timeless talent. Rest in peace my friend." http://tl.gd/ft8ghv



Beverly Hills PD Whitney Was NOT Murdered!!!
http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/13/whitney-houston-news-conference/#.Tzl_CoFWp3A

In case you were secretly wondering, NO ONE killed Whitney Houston ... this according to the police department currently investigating the singer's death.

A rep for the Beverly Hills Police Department -- the precinct that responded to Whitney's death scene at Beverly Hilton hotel Saturday -- just spoke at a news conference, claiming detectives are currently pursuing a death investigation ... NOT a homicide investigation.

The rep Lt. Mark Rosen adds, "This is a normal investigation for death of someone of [Whitney's] age."
According to Rosen, the preliminary investigation is nearly complete -- pending final coroner findings.


Barack Obama I'm Praying for Bobbi Kristina
http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/13/president-barack-obama-whitney-houston-bobbi-kristina/#.TzmAD4FWp3A

President Barack Obama is concerned about Whitney Houston's daughter Bobbi Kristina after her recent hospital scares ... this according to a rep for the White House.
Press Secretary Jay Carney just released a statement -- claiming Obama's thoughts and prayers are with Whitney Houston's family, especially her daughter.

TMZ broke the story ... Bobbi was taken to the hospital Saturday night and again on Sunday. We're told Bobbi was "hysterical, exhausted and inconsolable" after her mother's death.
Family members fear Bobbi might be suicidal.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Grace on February 13, 2012, 03:31:23 PM
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Whitney Houston's Final Meal Rx and Alcohol

Will anybody seriously consider a glass of Champagne and a Heineken being "dangerous alcohol leading to a heart attack"?

 Pharisaism go away.
Heineken?
I swear there's stronger waters than that on this planet and nobody seriously appreciating a beer once in a while will be fond of a Heineken if there are alternatives on the table.

Or is this the "only decaffeinated coffee is true coffee and healthy" wave?
Such as Botox and breast implants and the "you look ever younger" chase?

Come on, American paranoia of everything that is not invented in a plant's laboratory with gloves on
- leave me alone.

Where's the lizard sushi last supper report for Michael, Harvey?
Nothing better to offer than standard medication and a Heineken? I dare you. Put the bar higher, Harve.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Galaxy on February 13, 2012, 03:31:54 PM
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God forgive me, but I didn't believe in the Whitney dead news since second 1.

Call me crazy or hoax-fried but I believe this is all part of MJ's hoax-scenario!
If they announce later on that she also died of a heart attack , then it's gonna be clear as daylight to me!

The only possible way that this isn't true and that they are all dead, is that this is someone else's scenario! (read TPTB/Illuminati), otherwise... I can't explain all these similarities and coincidences!! this is all crazy!!  :shock:

I believe that this is all part of the hoax as well.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: MichaelsAngel on February 13, 2012, 03:38:39 PM
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I wish TMZ , etc.. wouldn't show these pictures of the bathroom and "her final meal". It think it's totally disrespectful and in poor taste.

I believe this was a terrible tragedy, a mistake on her part to mix alcohol and medication and she simply passed out in the bathtub. I feel horrible for the family, especially her only daughter. My prayers have been constant since this happened, as I'm sure others are too.

I am glad that friends and celebrities are reaching out to her family. Tyler Perry seems like a kind soul offering up his plane like he did.

Blessings.

Well said.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 13, 2012, 03:39:07 PM
Grace & Galaxy (http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Amour/chirolp_wkiss2.gif)(http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Amour/chirolp_wkiss2.gif)
Title: Re: Whitney Houston IS DEAD - accept it!!!
Post by: Tink on February 13, 2012, 03:46:04 PM
They deemed it not murder, btw.

Natural causes, or side affects of addiction is all we're left with.
My friend who suffered high blood pressure and smoked cigarettes? They said the bath water was much too HOT, and killed her instantly...there could be a similarity here.

And if you think this is a hoax, I want you to WATCH this video: http://www.cnn.com/video/?hpt=hp_c3#/video/bestoftv/2012/02/13/nr-whitney-houston-burrell.cnn (http://www.cnn.com/video/?hpt=hp_c3#/video/bestoftv/2012/02/13/nr-whitney-houston-burrell.cnn)

THOSE are tears of real grief, of losing a friend! Whitney is definitely DEAD, people - no doubt about it. No one's holding back; no smiles.

Here's another video, of a friend HIDING Whitney's ADDICTION: http://www.cnn.com/video/?hpt=hp_c3#/video/us/2012/02/13/point-kelly-price-houston-last-performance.cnn (http://www.cnn.com/video/?hpt=hp_c3#/video/us/2012/02/13/point-kelly-price-houston-last-performance.cnn)

When dealing with Addicts, you can't ever give them any Champagne again; no beer; no alcohol, ever again! It's like putting bullets in the chamber of a gun, and putting it against your head, and playing Russian Roulette! Full-blown addiction is when there's only one empty chamber.

Addiction, you need your friends to slap your friends up side your head!
Kelly messed up, man - she messed up...Whitney did NOT have a naturally raspy voice at all; the people around the person who's addicted, enabled her!!

This has nothing to do with Michael whatsoever. I'm completely disgusted and floored, that so many of you are trying to tie the two together - and call her death a hoax!  :(

LOOK at her loved one ones truly grieving!! Even Bobby Brown wigged out, at his concert
http://www.cnn.com/video/?hpt=hp_c3#/video/ireports/2012/02/12/nr-levs-brown-breakdown.cnn (http://www.cnn.com/video/?hpt=hp_c3#/video/ireports/2012/02/12/nr-levs-brown-breakdown.cnn)

Real life isn't tidy; death is messy and disgusting. After attending the Pre-Grammy parties, I'm 1000% sure, Whitney Houston is DEAD.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 13, 2012, 03:47:10 PM
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TMZ seems to be pulling up a lot of weird parallels between Whitney and Michael.  The Mickey Fine Pharmacy (wasn't it shut down?) like Sim posted above, plus this article:

http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/13/whitney-houston-beverly-hills-doctors-video/

Showing videos Whitney visiting medical offices days before her death (like MJ) and the bottom video, the still shows the camera lights on her with her hand raised, which reminds me very much of the 'last video' TMZ got of Michael, where he is splashed in white light with his hand raised. It's all just too weird.
^^ ;)

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Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: jam4truth on February 13, 2012, 03:49:10 PM
Hello everybody *wink*
so I guess it's the time to upgrade my status from lurker to 'poster'. Kirk Franklin (Gospel singer) tweeted the following (read from buttom to top):


Please retweet that as well. Thanks..
12 Feb Kirk Franklin Kirk Franklin @kirkfranklin

Ok.. Her level of success created a lot of pressure on her life. She was my friend. I'm not sharing what I feel; I'm sharing what I know.
12 Feb Kirk Franklin Kirk Franklin @kirkfranklin

Not fair...
12 Feb Kirk Franklin Kirk Franklin @kirkfranklin

Success killed her...

12 Feb Kirk Franklin Kirk Franklin @kirkfranklin

Wow.....
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: diggyon on February 13, 2012, 03:51:09 PM
What if there was really a plan that many celebrities disappear in a strange way !!!  I don't know what kind of effect this could have on the media.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 13, 2012, 03:52:51 PM
Speaking of WATER . . . WATER . . . WATER . . .


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGL099t8i2s&feature=g-all-f&context=G2c25306FAAAAAAAAPAA[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLbOBoa8vD8[/youtube]
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: LoveShyMichael on February 13, 2012, 03:56:52 PM
Whitney Houston killed by prescription drugs and alcohol, not drowning, say coroner officials

(NaturalNews) Yesterday NaturalNews reported that Whitney Houston was likely the latest victim of the pharmaceutical industry and its deadly, toxic prescription drugs. Her body was found near her medications, which included Lorazepam, Valium, Xanax, and a sleeping medication (http://www.naturalnews.com/034944_Whitney_Houston_prescription_drugs_...).

It has now been revealed by TMZ that L.A. County Coroner's officials told Houston's family that she died from a toxic combination of prescription drugs and alcohol. Importantly, there was not enough water in her lungs to have drowned her, meaning she died from the drugs and then sank into the tub.

"The singer did not die from drowning, but rather from what appears to be a combination of Xanax and other prescription drugs mixed with alcohol ... this according to family sources," reports TMZ (http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/13/whitney-houston-cause-of-death-prescrip...).

The family was also told that Whitney died "before her head became submerged."


Yet another victim of the pharmaceutical industry and its deadly medications
The evidence now conclusively points to the fact that Whitney Houston has been killed by the pharmaceutical industry. She had no death wish, no suicidal behavior, and no intent to kill herself. There was no evidence of foul play. She thought she was merely taking "anti-anxiety drugs" that would help her relax, but instead she was killed by an FDA-approved product, prescribed by state-licensed doctors and dispensed by licensed pharmacies.

She was killed, in other words, by "western medicine" (sometimes called "conventional medicine").

FDA-approved pharmaceuticals kill more Americans every year than died in the entire Vietnam War (http://www.ourcivilisation.com/medicine/usamed.htm). Pharmaceutical drug deaths dwarf acts of terrorism (http://www.naturalnews.com/009278.html) and automobile accidents. There is no greater scourge of death and destruction on our modern civilization than the drug companies and their deadly, toxic products.


Elvis and Marilyn Monroe were also killed by the drug industry's medications
Whitney Houston is not the only celebrity killed by Big Pharma's drugs. The industry's toxic chemicals also killed Elvis, Heath Ledger, and Marilyn Monroe (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Marilyn_Monroe). And hundreds of thousands of people are killed every year who aren't famous -- they just die quietly in their beds as yet more victims of the greed-driven pharmaceutical industry whose products are more deadly than terrorism.

No other industry is granted so much latitude and government approval to sell deadly products which kill those who consume them. Only the pharmaceutical industry, with its deadly vaccines that kill teen girls (http://www.naturalnews.com/030991_Gardasil_vaccine.html) and its toxic chemotherapy (http://www.naturalnews.com/027141_chemotherapy_death_pharmacist.html) is given near total immunity by the government to keep on killing innocent people like Whitney Houston.

And those who aren't outright killed by their drugs are routinely harmed by those drugs or made into prescription drug addicts. Big Pharma is an industry of death that will continue to kill our beloved singers, artists and fellow citizens and family members unless we demand an end to the drug culture marketing of prescription pills and a return to medical sanity. The FDA legalized pharmaceutical advertising on television in 1997, and since then, drug use (and drug deaths) have skyrocketed across America.

Whitney Houston's death must serve as an urgent reminder that pills are not the answer, and that those who seek to alter their moods, physiology or biochemistry through Big Pharma's deadly drugs are only playing Russian roulette with their lives.

Share this story to help spread this warning: Prescription pills are NEVER the answer! If you want to be healthy, turn to nutrition, dietary improvements, exercise, sunlight and time with nature. Eat organic, non-GMO foods. Take high-end superfood supplements. Get regular exercise and consider starting a home garden. You cannot "chemicalize" your way to good health. The body and mind need Mother Nature, not synthetic chemicals made in a pharmaceutical factory.

Title: Re: 2012 Movie: Escaping the Game
Post by: Tink on February 13, 2012, 04:12:40 PM
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What if there was really a plan that many celebrities disappear in a strange way !!!  I don't know what kind of effect this could have on the media.

2012 movie for fall: Escaping the Game - Lindsay Lohan's first movie after Rehab, as an investigator.


For those who have too much, want too much, this world is a playground, where their fantasy becomes a reality. A world very few of us know; the celebrity lifestyle. What happens when a young star in Hollywood is offered a way out of stardom? This is a tale of a famous young star that cannot handle the pressure of everyday celebrity life. He cannot continue to live a controlled life and a victim of what most seem to be a dream. Like "Bourne Ultimatum" meets "Eagle Eye" our hero tries to escape from the watchful eye of the public and learns that there is a way out by hiring an underground secret company that has been faking the deaths of our most cherished lost celebrities for years... Marilyn Monroe, James Dean, Elvis Presley, TuPac, Notorious BIG, Princess Diana and many more who live on this lost celebrity island in the Pacific. We see how these celebrities are living today... Written by Nathan Folks 

Plot Summary | Add Synopsis
Plot Keywords: Death
Taglines: Celebrities cannot handle their life, are chosen to fake their death to live on a hidden island amongst other famous celebrities from the past.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 13, 2012, 04:30:00 PM
Regarding the 2012 movie "Escaping the Game" mentioned by Tink above^^, I had written extensively last year on my FB page.
For those interested and who do not have FB accounts, here it is:
Sorry if some of the links are not available anymore, taking into account more than 7 months have passed since I posted this:


[ link to ALL my MJ & Elvis ARTICLES: https://www.facebook.com/pages/MJ-ELVIS-are-ALIVE-MJ-LISA-The-Secret/197418280315197?sk=notes ] - SimPattyK

 

Hello dear beLIEvers... or should I say .... KNOWERS! ;) ♥ I've been very intrigued by this whole "MJ - Dubai Island theory" lately so I did some research on the Internet! GOD bless Internet! :)) And of course I've found a lot of interesting things... clues...connections...confirmations...well call them as you like :) So this is an UPDATE of my first article on this subject. ENJOY and Think for yourselves! Love you all ♥ L.isten O.bserve V.erify E.volve ♥
 

I. Some key words to start with----- )) Escape; the Game; Brett Ratner; Grucci; fireworks, Movies; Hollywood; Dubai; Palm Island; celebrities; fame; mass-media; lies; lyrics; truth. ♥

II. VIDEOS:

   1. PALM DUBAI - MICHAEL JACKSON ISLAND - THIS WAS MICHAEL JACKSON IDEA -  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuGWoRqwe64
   2. Michael Jackson And the Island- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxQOIa0f6cU&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL
  3.  THE PALM ISLAND !!! HeeeHeee ♥ - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frhBOC1sQIc&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL
  4.  The Emerald City in the Wizard of OZ is identical to the Hotel on MJ-Dubai Palm Island!! - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xZDABCH0Zc&feature=channel_video_title
   5. Face Value - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McYleLuxQKM&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL
  6.  Fireworks by Grucci - Atlantis The Palm Grand Opening Dubai 2008 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FonYArIFmf8&feature=player_embedded#at=16
(lots of spectacular fireworks! just like MJ likes in his concerts and V from "V for Vendetta" movie:)  :p )
And guess who were present there !? Well what a "coincidence": Lindsay Lohan, Quincy Jones and Janet Jackson !!! here you can see some photos: http://disneyandmore.blogspot.com/2008/11/atlantis-palm-grand-opening-part-two.html ; the work there has started on the island in 2001!)
 
Pay really close attention to Kenny Ortega's words during the rehearsals of "This Is It", especially those that I've underlined down here: 
    "This Is It- transcript-Kenny ORTEGA: "So we open the show, as you know, with all the lights down. We're gonna create a spectacular opening with pyrotechnics. And we want some sizzles and some cracks and some pops. We have our video that is called "Glimpses and Flashes. And that's where Light Man comes out on the gantry,  above the stage" - http://www.script-o-rama.com/movie_scripts/a1/this-is-it-script-transcript.html

    Now after you read Kenny's words, think about this: What happens after Michael's "death" (death symbolized by Kenny' words "with all the lights down") in 2009 ? On July 4th 2009 an interesting FireWorks TRIBUTE to Michael  during the Macy 33rd Annual Fire work - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41IO_pIgfBk - So this is it! This was the "spectacular opening" of MJ's hoax that Kenny Ortega described above ^^ ? what do you think? ;)

    Here's the most interesting part!  In the video at no. 6 above here ^^ you can see the 2008 Firewoks opening Ceremony for the Palm Island in Dubai was done by Grucci!!! Well I came across this article called "Off the Wall": http://davidlahuta.blogspot.com/2009/12/off-wall.html  where we can read that: "Bermuda’s 400th anniversary celebration culminated with a spectacular !!! Grucci-esque fireworks show and and that the winning boat (remember Kenny Ortega said: "floating") was a Michael Jackson-themed barge featuring a 40-foot tall King of Pop wrapped in red lights, a giant illuminated glove[...]" (so it's the Light Man that Kenny Ortega was talking about! "floating above the stage" ).

     Here's a more descriptive article of the event: http://davidlahuta.blogspot.com/2009/12/join-parade.html Notice the choice of the title: "Join the parade!" - What is that title??? I mean... like the Elephant parade passing by Staple's center the same day of Michael's memorial? like the syntagm "the greatest show on Earth"? See what I mean? Check out the other blogs on this link ^^ And read between the lines..search for keywords even if the content of texts doesn't really say anything clear or blunt... I don't know, maybe I am wrong and I'm seeing things where they aren't, but I feel there's something "fishy" about this blog and the whole "Bermuda" thing on it... I'd like to know your opinions about this, please :)

    I'll give you just 2 more links of articles from this same David LaHuta's -"Bermuda Shorts"-blog ^^ - http://davidlahuta.blogspot.com/2009/06/island-mourns.html Again the title caught my eye! "From the Headlines" - it made me think of "Breaking News", tabloids BS and stuff like that; also notice the refined irony and black humor in the tone of this article (like in almost all the articles touching MJ-subject on that blog )... it's like criticizing the whole hypocrite "circus" of actions and publications around MJ's death/tributes & so on an so forth...clearly hinting toward people who had never liked MJ, but now suddenly after his death fell the urge to "remember" him ;) Then take a look at the title of this article: Curtain Call - http://davidlahuta.blogspot.com/2009/10/curtain-call.html SUGGESTIVE! isn't it? ;) even if the content is not quite likewise...

    I also looked a bit into David LaHuta's biography-the author of this blog ^^ - http://davidlahuta.com/welcome/Bio.html and if my suspicions are correct...that he might have been working with MJ on the hoax, his blog being some sort of a "sharing island-escape-clues" to the fans/beLIEvers, then I thought it interesting the way he describes himself, starting with this: "International adventurer, television host and seasoned journalist" - made me think of Michael's speech "It's an adventure, a big adventure"; Let's continue with DL's description: "Originally from New York City, David has also lived in Bayswater, London; Lund, Sweden; St. Croix, U.S. Virgin Islands and is currently based in Bermuda (since 2010) where the adventurous outdoors man enjoys sailing, spearfishing and snorkeling near his home in Southampton." - So he also loves nature! (sounds familiar?), he has made a lot of splendid photos with beautiful landscapes, TV shows, etc... he has an entertainment career, received awards, etc...In my opinion, judging from all this, he is a person that Michael would be interested in "collaborating" with on his secret-island escapism-project, releasing those riddle-like short articles on his "Bermuda shorts" entitled blog, to give the fans some clues about the hoax.. I also guess that Bermuda is a "symbol" for MJ-Dubai - Palm Island", like a cover-up name ;) What do you think about that?

    Michael had a "thing" with the ISLAND theme way back before his "death" in 2004 for ex. - "Miss Cast Away and The Island Girls" - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Vuxcm5y7PY and also - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKRvDMGyHDI Take a look at the island on the movie poster, doesn't it look familiar to you?? ;) - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miss_Cast_Away_and_the_Island_Girls --Just type on Google "Michael Jackson island" and you'll be amazed of how many interesting results you'll find!
  1.  Michael Jackson - Water Angel  ♥  a very suggestive fan-made video!! - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vLQHweQ6Cs&feature=related

  2.  The Game- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vy5aglevNWE&feature=player_embedded
  3.  Going Hollywood- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2ELjF7AnX0&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL
  4.  Michael Jackson's Death ft. Lindsay Lohan - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYcAel-vueM
 5.   "I'm afraid for my life." Michael Jackson - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgNW6LUUKpQ&feature=related
 6.   Cracking the Code - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gec2vu-vW0w&feature=player_embedded
 7.   Somewhere Over the Rainbow- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GT6rZmL1bqg&feature=related
   8. an Interesting classic movie -MANHUNT OF MYSTERY ISLAND SERIAL TRAILER 1945- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdUItHBKOwA
   9. The Wonderful Wizard of Oz - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xZDABCH0Zc&feature=channel_video_title
  10.  Dubai Fountain - Burj Khalifa - Thriller - Michael Jackson - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcgZ9IgHiEA&feature=related

    Well well well.... in 2008 The Opening of PALMS Place Hotel!!! and besides PALMS!! they also talk about a "blow up show that the Jacksons will do soon! with everybody in the family involved!" how about that! they've always said it openly! everything was right in our face! hummmm.... :p:p:))) - Don't beLIEve K.N.O.W! K.now N.ow O.ver W.ondering (LMAO :))) Whaaaat??? LaToya & Jackie - interview at "PALMS Place" ??!!!! hellooo!! :))) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LcY6aAj1N-g&feature=feedu

    Palm Islands Dubai - documentary on construction:

part 1 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUSTlj0Btow

part 2 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AX4hcdXl ... re=related

part 3 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiBxoROE ... re=related

part 4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3IHnM5K ... re=related

 
III. ARTICLES:

 1.   Michael Jackson Dubai Island Designs - http://www.arabianbusiness.com/photos/michael-jackson-dubai-island-designs-93269.html?img=0
  2.  Janet Jackson at  Dubai Palm opens with star-studded party - http://articles.cnn.com/2008-11-20/world/dubai.palm_1_star-studded-party-atlantis-three-day-party?_s=PM:WORLD
  3.  "Michael Jackson had spent a sum of $1.5 million on a new mansion in his own private island in Bahrain" - http://www.bornrich.com/entry/michael-jacksons-new-mansion-in-bahrain/

   4. "At the end of June 2005, Michael Jackson went to Bahrain, the tiny 33-island archipelago in the Persian Gulf known less for its isolation than for playing host to the U.S. Navy's Fifth Fleet: If Jackson wanted to get away from all things American, he chose poorly. So why Bahrain? Blame his own brother - Jermaine, who is a friend of the son of the ruler of Bahrain. Jermaine must have impressed on his brother that he could get himself some private acreage and recharge in Bahrain [...]" - http://middleeast.about.com/b/2009/06/25/when-michael-jackson-was-the-world-to-bahrain.htm

   5. Michael Jackson Island Dubai - http://blog.grapeshisha.com/2009/09/michael-jackson-island-dubai.html
  6.  A relaxed Michael Jackson visits Dubai - http://www.ctv.ca/CTVNews/Entertainment/20050830/jackson_dubai_050830/
7. Jackson in Dubai: Buffalo wings, speedboats - http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/9131665/ns/today-entertainment/
  8.  Dubai Wants to Build Michael Jackson Island? - http://wang2.auto-blog.fr/188811/Dubai-Wants-to-Build-Michael-Jackson-Island/
  9.  Michael Jackson island proposed for Dubai - http://www.hoteliermiddleeast.com/5892-michael-jackson-island-proposed-for-dubai/
  10.  Michael Jackson Island - http://www.dreampropertydubai.com/michael-jackson-island-dubai and also - http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=43102722
  11.  Jackson Island - http://www.bustler.net/index.php/michael_jackson_competition/entry/jackson_island/
  12.  Who Will Built Man-made Michael Jackson Island? - http://lixian1987.e-monsite.com/blog,who-will-built-man-made-michael-jackson-island,358260.html

  13.  Lindsay Lohan pays tribute to Michael Jackson - http://articles.nydailynews.com/2009-06-29/gossip/17925228_1_samantha-ronson-michael-jackson-jacko
  14.  TMZ - Lindsay Lohan and MJ -- The Bodyguard Connection - http://www.tmz.com/2011/04/08/lindsay-lohan-michael-jackson-bodyguard-alberto-alvarez/
  15.  Lindsay Lohan Gives Michael Jackson’s Former Bodyguard Alberto Alvarez A Tryout - http://www.celebdirtylaundry.com/2011/04/10/lindsay-lohan-gives-michael-jacksons-former-bodyguard-alberto-alvarez-a-tryout/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+celebdirtylaundry%2FhMWQ+%28Celebrity+Dirty+Laundry%29

 
IV. Plot Summary for Escaping the Game (2012) - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0275594/plotsummary

    "According to reports Lindsay Lohan has nabbed a role in an movie titled “Escaping The Game”. This is a golden opportunity for her as she will be starring along side one of the lead actors from “The Amazing Spiderman” Chris Zylka.

    The story is about celebrities who are so overwhelmed by fame they fake their deaths and move to a remote island. Ironically, Lindsay will be playing a detective pursuing the truth behind all of these famous disappearances.

    It sounds like Lindsay landed the lead character in this movie and that is great for her. The shooting is said to be starting in the summer and take place in the US and Spain."

    Well guess who the director of the movie is?? Brett Ratner !! - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0275594/ So, let's resume this: This movie is about celebrities who want to escape their fame and the media circus by appealing to the services of a secret company who helps them fake their death and escape to a remote ocean island. The main character is Lindsay Lohan!! and the director, Michael's good old friend! well yeahhh!!! read the whole plot of the movie, it's really interesting - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0275594/plotsummary

    About Brett Ratner: *** Michael Jackson with Brett Ratner at the set of  the movie"Red Dragon".- he invited Michael during the recording of this movie from the famous Hannibal trilogy - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50hkv7OGFx0 *** Plot: A retired FBI agent with psychological gifts is assigned to help track down "The Tooth Fairy", a mysterious serial killer; aiding him is imprisoned criminal genius Hannibal "The Cannibal" Lecter (Anthony Hopkins). *** Inside Red Dragon_part1 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AAUHWSze4g&feature=related ---)) Look at minute 06:18 - the main character says "I thought he was gone and now he's back!" - it's exactly the "sex scene" loll that you can see Michael had assisted in the first video I gave you here ^^ so I guess this is a clue, a clear reference to Michael's hoax! *** Interview of Michael by his good friend Brett - part 1 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvKwAXSVRU8

    So besides the movie"Red Dragon" which is a Psychological !! ;) P :)) Other references I saw: first the DRAGON - I guess you all saw Michael's blouses, shirts and jackets imprinted with a dragon on them! So check out these MIND BLOWING links: *** DRAGON MAN: Michael Jackson appears at the Millennium World Music Awards in Monaco in 2001. - http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/601743; *** this: http://www.flickr.com/photos/wentloog/486659888/in/photostream/ *** Michael Jackson tribute at Neverland Ranch's Dragon Coaster in Coney Island - http://www.flickr.com/photos/27469924@N06/3685678113/; *** the “Thriller” dance for Dragon*Con‘s world record attempt. - http://yousoundlikearobot.com/1080/video-michael-jackson-leave-me-alone *** Michael Jackson Dragon - http://www.flickr.com/photos/43307269@N07/4111056640/ Games - http://www.gamesmichaeljackson.net/jackson/DRAGON/1/ ---)) SO.... what can I say? I am THRILLED and I send thriller KISSSSSSES to our favorite RED DRAGON ♥ ♥ ♥

    1.MICHAEL JACKSON ESCAPE - Pay attention to Michael's lyrics in the song "coincidentally" entitled "ESCAPE" !! - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPLU2DAYP6k&feature=related
  2.  Fox News "predicts" the death of Michael Jackson, Britney Spears and Lindsey Lohan- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTKpvC1sQYc ( At minute 3:22 in you are being told that Michael Jackson, Britney Spears and Lindsey Lohan are going to die within 5 years. - see the print screen-photo I've added down here )
   3. In-Depth Look into Michael Jackson & Lindsay Lohan Cases- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRibokSKCGk
  4.  Conrad Murray Who is Lindsay lohan- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGZLRSziHfo&feature=related
 5.  Michael Jackson's Death ft. Lindsay Lohan - Daughter to Father - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYcAel-vueM

V. Single "Hollywood Tonight " ~ Cover-ArtWork

    part 1 - http://xxserenityxdreamsxx.blogspot.com/2011/02/hollywood-tonight-cover.html
    part 2 - http://xxserenityxdreamsxx.blogspot.com/2011/03/hollywood-tonight-cover-part-2.html
    Lindsay Connections in part 3 - http://xxserenityxdreamsxx.blogspot.com/2011/03/michael-jackson-single-hollywood.html
    the Pantages connection- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-J9uFP7mMc&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL
    The hoax-TMZ-Charlie Sheen and others...- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzAE0MxMY2M&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL

 
So my friends, what do you think? What are we to beLIEve of all these facts or just simple "coincidences" ?? Can we hope that Michael had this GENIUS idea of creating a remote isolated heavenly ISLAND for celebrities to ESCAPE from the mass-media circus they were living in... from their nightmare....escape to a dream-island ? hummm... I can't wait to see what's up next! - I keep thinking of Michael's phrase "The Best is yet to come!" ♥ LOVE you all ♥
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: MJonmind on February 13, 2012, 04:59:18 PM
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FDA-approved pharmaceuticals kill more Americans every year than died in the entire Vietnam War (http://www.ourcivilisation.com/medicine/usamed.htm (http://www.ourcivilisation.com/medicine/usamed.htm)). Pharmaceutical drug deaths dwarf acts of terrorism
http://www.naturalnews.com/009278.html (http://www.naturalnews.com/009278.html) and automobile accidents. There is no greater scourge of death and destruction on our modern civilization than the drug companies and their deadly, toxic products.

And those who aren't outright killed by their drugs are routinely harmed by those drugs or made into prescription drug addicts. Big Pharma is an industry of death that will continue to kill our beloved singers, artists and fellow citizens and family members unless we demand an end to the drug culture marketing of prescription pills and a return to medical sanity. The FDA legalized pharmaceutical advertising on television in 1997, and since then, drug use (and drug deaths) have skyrocketed across America.

They could be making a statement through celeb deaths about pharma drugs, but it is ignored after a short grieving period sadly.



"Fated" says it all.
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Friday, February 5, 2010
"Fated" to be published this June.
Okay, so this Youtube video was being RT on my twitter page like crazy.
 
 Everybody assumed it to be true without doing any investigating themselves. Well, I searched the web, sent out a few Tweets and I can now confirm that this video is correct.
 
 Special thanks to 4_BeLIEvers for tweeting me this link:
 
http://www.anorak.co.uk/227508/celebrities/michael-jackson-co-writes-fated-the-comic-book-tale-of-a-supernatural-pop-star.html (http://www.anorak.co.uk/227508/celebrities/michael-jackson-co-writes-fated-the-comic-book-tale-of-a-supernatural-pop-star.html)
 
 The story is that, Michael Jackson co wrote a comic book with Gotham Chopra. The story line is about a pop star who tries to kill himself and fails. People think he's dead when he's actually alive. The comic is to be published June of 2010.
 
 "Publishers Weekly recently reported that the book, called Fated, about a pop icon named Gabriel Star who takes on superhuman powers, will be published in hardcover next June"
 
 Here is a photo from the comic
 
(http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm47/brennaxoxo_2008/jackson-comic.jpg)
 
 Kinda looks like Michael doesn't it?
 
 The title of this comic is Fated. It was co written between Gotham Chopra and Michael. Gotham's father Deepak Chopra made this statement in his tribute to Michael on June 26, 2009.
 "his sudden death yesterday seemed almost fated.""
 
 This comic is going to be published in June of 2010. Michael "passed" in June of 2009. It will be published one year from his "death". Strange isn't it?

http://dianajeann.blogspot.com/2010/02/fated-to-be-published-this-june.html (http://dianajeann.blogspot.com/2010/02/fated-to-be-published-this-june.html)
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: PureLove on February 13, 2012, 05:03:58 PM
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WOW this is so beautiful  :'(  :'( :'( !!!!!

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6-Oja05YMM&feature=related[/youtube]


This is for a larger view  :BEAUTIFUL  :shock:  :'(  !!!!

http://tinyurl.com/7zubnu5

This is so beautiful.    :-\   :cry:
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Tink on February 13, 2012, 05:55:44 PM
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LoveShyMichael quoted
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FDA-approved pharmaceuticals kill more Americans every year than died in the entire Vietnam War (http://www.ourcivilisation.com/medicine/usamed.htm (http://www.ourcivilisation.com/medicine/usamed.htm)). Pharmaceutical drug deaths dwarf acts of terrorism
http://www.naturalnews.com/009278.html (http://www.naturalnews.com/009278.html) and automobile accidents. There is no greater scourge of death and destruction on our modern civilization than the drug companies and their deadly, toxic products.

And those who aren't outright killed by their drugs are routinely harmed by those drugs or made into prescription drug addicts. Big Pharma is an industry of death that will continue to kill our beloved singers, artists and fellow citizens and family members unless we demand an end to the drug culture marketing of prescription pills and a return to medical sanity. The FDA legalized pharmaceutical advertising on television in 1997, and since then, drug use (and drug deaths) have skyrocketed across America.

They could be making a statement through celeb deaths about pharma drugs, but it is ignored after a short grieving period sadly.



"Fated" says it all.
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Friday, February 5, 2010
"Fated" to be published this June.
Okay, so this Youtube video was being RT on my twitter page like crazy.
 
 Everybody assumed it to be true without doing any investigating themselves. Well, I searched the web, sent out a few Tweets and I can now confirm that this video is correct.
 
 Special thanks to 4_BeLIEvers for tweeting me this link:
 
http://www.anorak.co.uk/227508/celebrities/michael-jackson-co-writes-fated-the-comic-book-tale-of-a-supernatural-pop-star.html (http://www.anorak.co.uk/227508/celebrities/michael-jackson-co-writes-fated-the-comic-book-tale-of-a-supernatural-pop-star.html)
 
 The story is that, Michael Jackson co wrote a comic book with Gotham Chopra. The story line is about a pop star who tries to kill himself and fails. People think he's dead when he's actually alive. The comic is to be published June of 2010.
 
 "Publishers Weekly recently reported that the book, called Fated, about a pop icon named Gabriel Star who takes on superhuman powers, will be published in hardcover next June"
 
 Here is a photo from the comic
 
(http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm47/brennaxoxo_2008/jackson-comic.jpg)
 
 Kinda looks like Michael doesn't it?



 
SNIP! Get your facts straight on this one, please.

That's from a comic book in the late '80s by DC comics series called WASTELAND, issue #16! Issue is called Heartshadow.
WRITTEN BY JOHN OSTRANDER, drawn by Rick Magyar.

"It's a pretty dark story that deals with the psychology of obsession, depression and the way the two feed into each other. It's also an interesting counterpoint to many of Jackson's more jokey, parody-fueled cameos by in various comics over the years. The adult-oriented anthology series "Wasteland" featured a story chronicling the downward spiral of a lonely girl named Shari Evenson whose obsession with a familiar-looking "dark prince named Michael" eventually leads her to take her own life."

Please stop ripping off Ostrander and Magyar - you're misrepresenting their work as others. Then the fair use act isn't abused.
you know.

Also, if you look closely at the art, it's done in 1980s style, which is dots to print - before computers were used. Photoshop is used today.

To me? There's no greater scourge on this planet, than misrepresenting other artists/writers works as someone else's!  8)
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Tink on February 13, 2012, 06:09:35 PM
And this is what the DEA requires all doctors to use, who are registered to write Opiates (tamper resistant Rx pads): http://www.rxpaper.com/California.jpg (http://www.rxpaper.com/California.jpg)
As long as the person's real name is used, then the DEA has everything straight. I do have a feeling that many doctor's are going to have
their wrists slapped over this. There will be some bro-haha, and then only if they're caught, will they be penalized.

It's illegal for others to access anyone's medical records, other than those with a reason, period, the end! The woman who got into Farrah
Fawcett's records broke the law!

More info:http://www.rxpaper.com/CA-pad-order-CART.html
Doctors must register with the DEA, it's quite complicated - but it's done so, to weed out those who'd give out drugs freely.

FYI - this came down, either 2008 0r 2009, because of either Heath Ledger or Michael Jackson. I've been on pain medication for about 10 years now, and I do remember when docs didn't need this special paper, filed with the DEA.

In other words: Each, and every pill I swallow that's a schedule drug, is recorded by the DEA.
It's like that for everyone, who takes Opiates.

Please feel free to post these links where appropriate. It did take some digging.

Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: paula-c on February 13, 2012, 06:14:40 PM
Whitney's Death: An Earlier Incident?



EXCLUSIVE — Whitney Houston’s death made for a long day’s journey into night at the Beverly Hilton. While the Clive Davis Grammy dinner had to proceed downstairs in the ballroom–with 800 guests already filing in as the news was breaking–Whitney remained in state, so to speak, in her fourth floor suite. She was not removed until just moments before the party ended–a little after midnight. She’d been in the suite, discovered in her bathtub. But there were many people in the suite when this happened at 3:50pm including her daughter Bobbi Kristina, her brother Gary, sister in law Pat Houston, and another player in this story — a nightlife friend who’d been guiding her around town the last few days as she was photographed in states of duress.

What you don’t know is that around 11pm, paramedics were called back to the fourth floor. Security and police raced back to the 4th floor. A medical wheelchair with restraints was brought in through the back entrance to the hotel. Bobbi Kristina “freaked out”–well, she’d been upstairs for hours with her mother’s dead body in the next room. It was understandable. The paramedics thought they were going to to have to take her to the hospital. But calm was restored. For ten minutes, though, security cleared the entire lobby of the hotel while the concert was going on inside the ballroom. I was out there at that moment, and it was one of the strangest scenes ever.


Then there’s the mysterious story of a leak that occurred the night before from Whitney’s group of suites. A man on the third floor right underneath Houston’s suite suddenly experienced water cascading into his bathroom from above at 2:30am. It wasn’t just a trickle. The man called security, then went upstairs to the fourth floor to see what was going on. He swears to me that it was Whitney’s bathtub that was overflowing. He also says that a flat screen television had been been broken–the screen was smashed. My sources at the hotel say there was a “leak” but that it wasn’t from Whitney’s room. “They [her group] have a lot of rooms up there,” says the hotel source. My source, this man, insists that he was told it was Whitney Houston’s room. It does seem to have been part of her group of rooms.

There are many mysteries here. None of them have been reported or solved by TMZ or one of the other muckracking tabloids. I know the man who had to pull Whitney out of the bathtub yesterday and attempt to give her CPR. He told me, “She was already dead. There was nothing I could do.”

More on Whitney’s death and the Grammy party follows in the next post. And believe me, dear readers, this isn’t easy. I’ve known Whitney Houston and her family for over 25 years. She was a beautiful girl with a big heart. She was full of optimism. Her mother is one of the finest people. The people who worked for and with her were devoted to her. When the shock turns to anger there will be a lot of finger pointing. But in the end, Whitney ruled her own .

http://www.forbes.com/sites/rogerfriedman/2012/02/12/whitneys-death-an-earlier-incident/
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: paula-c on February 13, 2012, 06:18:48 PM
Whitney Houston’s Death and The Secret-Society, Called The Music Industry


I was asked by a family member, who knows I’m an occult researcher, to look into Whitney Houston’s death, as being a sacrifice. Now, I don’t usually do too many articles on the illuminati and their connections with the music industry, because there are thousands of researchers that investigate this sort of thing, but when I looked into this one I figured it was worth sharing my opinions with the world.

Before I get into my research I want to say that I was a Whitney Houston fan and I never judged her as a crackhead, like many others. I know that it is strong people within the music industry and she was definitely one of them. She started out in the Choir and her first solo performance was “Guide Me O Thou Jehova”. Whitney was one of the few entertainers who got a record deal, because of her true talent and not because of connections and affiliations that she had. She paved the way, with her voice and image, for many diva’s that would come after her. Whitney is free from the body and free from the matrix, which means her mission here was complete.

Even though there is tons of research proving it, many people don’t believe that there is a secret society that controls the music and film industry. This is mostly due to ignorance and those people that make this claim are usually the ones who have done zero research into the topic. They simply make these statements because they don’t want to awaken from their celebrity dream world and that is ok. This is why the owners of the matrix put so much money and time into promoting celebrities, because the celebrities are the stars that keep the matrix alive to billions. Whitney Houston sold over 100 Million records and generated Billions of Federal Reserve notes (dollars), Euro’s, and pounds, for the world rulers. But more important than the money, Whitney Houston represented an image to the world and images in the matrix have to be controlled to their end.

I was in the music industry and anytime I involve myself in something I do research to see what I am getting myself into. When I did my research on the music industry I found out that there are 3 major labels that own the Industry and all of the smaller labels within it. These labels are Sony, Universal, and Warner Brothers. Now, what most people don’t realize is that these record labels are all owned by certain Elite families. Just because a company is a publically traded one doesn’t mean that it can’t be privately owned. A publically traded company is broken down into three parts, bonds, preferred stocks, and common stocks.  A corporation is issued bonds from a bank and it then begins to invest into itself with the banker money. The stocks are issued out,first to the preferred stockholders, and then the general public gets a shot at investing into the stocks, as common stock holders.

A corporation is simply a vehicle, called an artificial person in law, that is used to move finance from one place to the next. The bond holders are the true owners of the corporation and as I said above the bond holders are bankers. It is common knowledge that the global Elite run the world through the practice of banking, which is rooted in lending. The Rothschild family are the money manipulators and masters who control banking in Europe and the Rockafeller’s control banking here in the Corporate U.S. Thus, at the end of the day the entertainment industry is controlled and owned by the bankers, just like every other industry.

Everything that takes place in public is first planned in private through secret societies. This is the way the world has always worked and the music industry is no exception to this. Before a entertainer is given a recording contract they must first be a member of a secret society. A so called X member of the illuminati, who was a music executive in the 70’s spoke about this publically, his name was John Todd. According to Todd, every musician and entertainer in the music industry and Hollywood, has to be a initiated wizard or witch before they are offered a recording contract. This is what some writers have called the selling of the soul or light to Lucifer. In his speeches John Todd further demonstrates that after the record is cut and the master is finished, it is then given to a coven of witches and wizards who conjure up a demon. Once the demon is conjured the witches and wizards ask the entity to attach itself to every copy or duplicate that is sold to the public, which guarantees the success of the record and also takes control of the listener. If you want to research Todd’s work in full I have all of his recorded material on MP3 and would be glad to send it to you. (Email me at 13signsastrology@gmail.com)



The point I am making above is that the music industry is a cult and once one gets a record deal they are now an initiate and are a part of the cult for life. Whitney Houston was no exception to this rule and she took the oath back in the 70’s. Once the oath is pledged you become the property of the record labels and the machines and you can NEVER retire. The only way out of the game is death! If you think I’m lying, please email me with one entertainer who has successfully retired from the industry, never to come back again. There is no way out.

Whitney Houston reached the peak of her career in 1992 when she starred in the film Body Guard, with Kevin Costner. If you notice all of the big entertainers have to do a film when they reach their peak so that they can generate more capital for their masters aka the label. Whitney had a pristine image, for the most part, and this is why many, including myself, respected her. In her music and even in the Body Guard film she played the type of person she was in real life. Little did Whitney know that the people that control the industry love to breakdown the image of pure and clean folks and this is exactly what they set out to do after the Body Guard film. She later starred in Waiting To Exhale and Cinderella, but information began to leak that she was often late for interviews and a no show sometimes. This was around the same time she met and would eventually marry Bobby Brown.


You see, in the music industry nothing happens without the consent of the label and Whitney meeting and marrying Bobby Brown was no different. The life of an entertainer doesn’t stop when the cameras go off, the entertainment spills over into your personal life, because as I said above, when you sign the deal you are now the property of the labels. The labels allowed Whitney to Marry Bobby Brown and if one does any investigation they will see that her life began to go downhill shortly after. Now I’m not blaming Bobby for Whitney’s fall, because he took the oath and made a deal with the goat just like her, so I believe they used Bobby to make Whitney’s life more interesting and to begin to tarnish her image. Like I said the music industry is not for the pure hearted and Whitney was a pure soul indeed! The labels knew what kind of person Bobby was and they knew he would be a good pick for their goals with Whitney. So, the labels began to work rituals based on Bobby and Whitney’s relationship, remember everybody in the game aka the industry plays a part even when the cameras go off.

Whitney Houston stated in her interview with Oprah in 2010 that she was attracted to Bobby because he, “took control of her and their relationship, and she liked that.” In reality Bobby was acting as Whitney’s handler, which is a term used in mind control. A handler is one who is used within a mind control experiment to break another and to get them to do what the controllers of the experiment want, this was Bobby’s role. The labels wanted to spice up Whitney’s life aka destroy her pristine image, which they had been targeting since she got into the industry. You may wonder why they would want to do a thing like this, but if you’re not in the industry then you can’t imagine how diabolical the people are who run the show. These people thrive on drama, sex, violence, and drugs. As they say, sex sales! Entertainers are products of the elite and they are treated as such, they (The Elite) don’t give a shit about human values morals and the likes. The people that are behind the scenes are master witches and wizards and their goals are constant control and power.

Whitney Houston was addicted to cocain and she became infamous for this habit. You have to ask you’re self why was she addicted to cocain, because from a metaphysical point of view, people that use drugs are using them to cover up something. According to her 2010 interview with Oprah, Whitney said, “Bobby would draw eyes all over their home.” Could these be the all seeing eye that depicts Lucifer’s eye within the occult. I already proved above that these people are witches and wizards. She further states that, “Bobby was her drug”, which further proves that she was using the drugs as an escape from her life with Bobby. Whitney wasn’t happy with herself and the way her life was ending up and in the same interview with Oprah she even referred to herself as “the devil.”

According to Bobby Brown’s sister, who would go on drug binges with the couple, “Whitney hallucinates and sees demons when she’s high; she bites and beats herself black-and-blue but blames the devil for the injuries.” Bobby’s sister Tina goes on to say that,  Houston sees ‘demons’ everywhere she goes, and beats herself up while saying “The Devil be hitting me.” Tina claimed that drugs have made Whitney so paranoid she sees evil apparitions and once drilled a spy-hole in her bathroom to look for “demons.” She said: “She’ll point to the floor and say, ‘See that demon. I’m telling you somebody’s messing with Bobby.’ She always thinks it’s something to do with Bobby.” She added: “She breaks everything – mirrors, phones, cabinets, appliances.”Now, ask yourself, what’s really going on within the music industry? Is it just drugs or was Whitney demon possessed? Why are all of these celebs hooked on drugs and why are all of these celebs dying young?



Whitney was of no use to the industry anymore because as many of you know she couldn’t sing the way she use to. The drugs and the demons drained her life force, because Whitney was pure and wasn’t built for demonology. Whitney was sacrificed aka thrown from the freedom train, and done away with a day before the grammy’s as a industry ritual. She was found dead in a bath tub within the hotel of Clive Davis’s pre- Grammy Awards party. This was a ritual, just like every other aspect of Whitney’s life. Whitney was born on August the 9th and died on February 11th. (9-11) 9-11 is a numerical code used by the elite to perform human sacrifice rituals and Whitneys death was no exception. She died a night before the Grammy’s because within the occult one can harness the energy of the deceased to attain the ends of their choice. Whitney’s energy will be used for the awards tonight and this is why the media jumped all over her death before the cause was even discovered. This is a ritual folks.

My last piece of information that I will submit, about the occult connections to the music industry, is Madonna’s performance at the Super Bowl. This performance, by Madonna, was a High priestess ceremony. The costume worn by Madonna speaks volumes as to her rank with the secret society within the music industry. Madonna was interviewed, prior to the Super Bowl, on Anderson Cooper show and she said, “The Superbowl is kind of like the Holy of Holies in America. I’ll come at halfway of the “church experience” and I’m gonna have to deliver a sermon. It’ll have to be very impactful. Don’t take her words for granite, as she is telling you that her performance was a ritual. The Holy of Holies is the name of the most sacred place found within Solomon’s Temple. No one was ever permitted to enter the Holy of Holies but the High Priest. This privilege was only granted on the Day of Atonement, to offer the blood of sacrifice and incense before the mercy seat. Whitney Houston was the Blood sacrifice that was offered on the Sabbath day, or Saturday, exactly 7 days after Madonna’s performance.


(http://occultandmusic.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/madonna.jpg?w=300&h=161)











So there you have it folks. The music industry is really a secret society in disguise and it’s much more than music. If you’re considering being an entertainer do your research and know what you’re getting yourself into. Without knowledge of the occult one doesn’t stand a chance of surviving within the music and film industry. If you enjoy your own self expression and individuality then the industry isn’t for you. Once the deal is made your life will be ritualized and controlled forever.

http://occultandmusic.wordpress.com/2012/02/12/whitney-houstons-death-and-the-secret-society-called-the-music-industry/
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: hesouttamylife on February 13, 2012, 06:40:03 PM
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The day before she dies, Whitney seems extremely passionate about kissing and loving, almost like the goodbyes that Michael gave at Klein office, not long before his “death”.  Like she somehow KNEW...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UgobeQRcyA&feature=player_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UgobeQRcyA&feature=player_embedded)
 


Hessouttamylife
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Plus, I am not of the belief that every death is God's plan.  Satan's schedule  is just as busy.
I respectfully disagree, because God is almightly and always in complete control.[/font


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1 Samuel 2:6
6The LORD killeth, and maketh alive: he bringeth down to the grave, and bringeth up.
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Job 1:2121And said, Naked came I out of my mother's womb, and naked shall I return thither: the LORD gave, and the LORD hath taken away; blessed be the name of the LORD.

What I’ve stated is my belief.  It doesn’t change my mind one bit what anyone else believes and I won’t try to change theirs.  But I have the right to believe what I choose to and I believe that there is a batttle between good and evil and cannot accept that death and destruction is always caused by only the good side.  But again, I am stating this as my belief and not trying to tell you that you are wrong.  Please give me the same courtesy and respect.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: LoveShyMichael on February 13, 2012, 07:01:56 PM
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And this is what the DEA requires all doctors to use, who are registered to write Opiates (tamper resistant Rx pads): http://www.rxpaper.com/California.jpg (http://www.rxpaper.com/California.jpg)
As long as the person's real name is used, then the DEA has everything straight. I do have a feeling that many doctor's are going to have
their wrists slapped over this. There will be some bro-haha, and then only if they're caught, will they be penalized.

It's illegal for others to access anyone's medical records, other than those with a reason, period, the end! The woman who got into Farrah
Fawcett's records broke the law!

More info:http://www.rxpaper.com/CA-pad-order-CART.html
Doctors must register with the DEA, it's quite complicated - but it's done so, to weed out those who'd give out drugs freely.

FYI - this came down, either 2008 0r 2009, because of either Heath Ledger or Michael Jackson. I've been on pain medication for about 10 years now, and I do remember when docs didn't need this special paper, filed with the DEA.

In other words: Each, and every pill I swallow that's a schedule drug, is recorded by the DEA.
It's like that for everyone, who takes Opiates.

Please feel free to post these links where appropriate. It did take some digging.



Tink, the government breaks the law EVERYDAY, there is NO CONSQUENCES...PERIOD!

Your doctor works for BIG PHARMA!! 
BIG PHARMA KILLED....SAY IT FOR WHAT IT IS... BIG PHARMA KILLED WHITNEY HOUSTON WITH THE TOXIC SHIT THEY CALL ....PRESCRIPTION MEDICATION!

Do American's really think their medical records are confidential?
Do American's know when they order a pizza from local pizza joint that your information is sold to local police departments so they can get you on a warrant?
You better hope your pizza arrives before the sheriff does.

And if you think your doctor has your best interest in mind......let me tell you they dont.......I'll tell you why....

When I was on my adderall, I was taking 60 mg in morning & 60mg in afternoon. The highest dosage my doctor ever prescribed. When I was going thru what I thought was depression, I went back to my doctor, he wanted to add ANOTHER anti-depressent.

I said no, i suggested an increase in my adderall. which I was at 50mg x2 daily. He said he wanted me to see a therapist to get thier opinion. I went there, she asked me why I wanted an increase, not knowing anything about the man-made disease of ADHD, I said I was getting distracted easily.  Bam...was there for less than 10 minutes....she gave me the prescription for 60mg x2= 120 mg a day.....

When I brought the prescription in to get filled....there was always a delay with it going thru to my insurance company. I asked the pharmacist....how come there is a delay everytime I get this prescription filled? Pharmacist said she has to call insurance company to get it approved. But never told me why.....

I blew it off.....got my prescription & left......

I wasn't until after I was off my prescription that i called my insurance company on some claims & I decided to ask about why the pharmacy had to call everytime I got my Adderall filled.

What she said blew my mind...........Ma'am the dosage you we're on 120mg. It comes up with a warning of POTENTIAL OVERDOSE!....she asked if my doctor or pharmacist ever mentioned this when they prescribed this high of dosage for me?

NEVER, NEVER did my doctor, therapist, or pharmacist EVER MENTION A POSSIBLE OVERDOSE.

This is one example of "how they don't care about us"..........by Michael Jackson.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: iamamjbeliever on February 13, 2012, 07:08:07 PM
 :shock:
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: RK on February 13, 2012, 07:36:34 PM
@Paula...thankyou for posting this article. Something here is way off. The dates, Clive Davis' party happening downstairs while Whitney's body lies 4 floor above. How brazen and in your face are these people becoming. Or are they convinced that it's only conspiracy 'nutters' who will see and talk about this while others go along with the reasoning that Whitney was in bad shape and it was inevitable [albeit the day before the grammies coincidently   :?]
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Whitney was of no use to the industry anymore because as many of you know she couldn’t sing the way she use to. The drugs and the demons drained her life force, because Whitney was pure and wasn’t built for demonology. Whitney was sacrificed aka thrown from the freedom train, and done away with a day before the grammy’s as a industry ritual. She was found dead in a bath tub within the hotel of Clive Davis’s pre- Grammy Awards party. This was a ritual, just like every other aspect of Whitney’s life. Whitney was born on August the 9th and died on February 11th. (9-11) 9-11 is a numerical code used by the elite to perform human sacrifice rituals and Whitneys death was no exception. She died a night before the Grammy’s because within the occult one can harness the energy of the deceased to attain the ends of their choice. Whitney’s energy will be used for the awards tonight and this is why the media jumped all over her death before the cause was even discovered. This is a ritual folks.

Jennifer Hudson....be careful...they are already throwing your name around as heir apparent.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Andrea on February 13, 2012, 07:48:57 PM
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Whitney's Death: An Earlier Incident?

EXCLUSIVE — Whitney Houston’s death made for a long day’s journey into night at the Beverly Hilton. While the Clive Davis Grammy dinner had to proceed downstairs in the ballroom–with 800 guests already filing in as the news was breaking–Whitney remained in state, so to speak, in her fourth floor suite. She was not removed until just moments before the party ended–a little after midnight. She’d been in the suite, discovered in her bathtub. But there were many people in the suite when this happened at 3:50pm including her daughter Bobbi Kristina, her brother Gary, sister in law Pat Houston, and another player in this story — a nightlife friend who’d been guiding her around town the last few days as she was photographed in states of duress.

What you don’t know is that around 11pm, paramedics were called back to the fourth floor. Security and police raced back to the 4th floor. A medical wheelchair with restraints was brought in through the back entrance to the hotel. Bobbi Kristina “freaked out”–well, she’d been upstairs for hours with her mother’s dead body in the next room. It was understandable. The paramedics thought they were going to to have to take her to the hospital. But calm was restored. For ten minutes, though, security cleared the entire lobby of the hotel while the concert was going on inside the ballroom. I was out there at that moment, and it was one of the strangest scenes ever.

Then there’s the mysterious story of a leak that occurred the night before from Whitney’s group of suites. A man on the third floor right underneath Houston’s suite suddenly experienced water cascading into his bathroom from above at 2:30am. It wasn’t just a trickle. The man called security, then went upstairs to the fourth floor to see what was going on. He swears to me that it was Whitney’s bathtub that was overflowing. He also says that a flat screen television had been been broken–the screen was smashed. My sources at the hotel say there was a “leak” but that it wasn’t from Whitney’s room. “They [her group] have a lot of rooms up there,” says the hotel source. My source, this man, insists that he was told it was Whitney Houston’s room. It does seem to have been part of her group of rooms.

There are many mysteries here. None of them have been reported or solved by TMZ or one of the other muckracking tabloids. I know the man who had to pull Whitney out of the bathtub yesterday and attempt to give her CPR. He told me, “She was already dead. There was nothing I could do.”

More on Whitney’s death and the Grammy party follows in the next post. And believe me, dear readers, this isn’t easy. I’ve known Whitney Houston and her family for over 25 years. She was a beautiful girl with a big heart. She was full of optimism. Her mother is one of the finest people. The people who worked for and with her were devoted to her. When the shock turns to anger there will be a lot of finger pointing. But in the end, Whitney ruled her own .

http://www.forbes.com/sites/rogerfriedman/2012/02/12/whitneys-death-an-earlier-incident/


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Whitney Houston’s Death and The Secret-Society, Called The Music Industry

I was asked by a family member, who knows I’m an occult researcher, to look into Whitney Houston’s death, as being a sacrifice. Now, I don’t usually do too many articles on the illuminati and their connections with the music industry, because there are thousands of researchers that investigate this sort of thing, but when I looked into this one I figured it was worth sharing my opinions with the world.

Before I get into my research I want to say that I was a Whitney Houston fan and I never judged her as a crackhead, like many others. I know that it is strong people within the music industry and she was definitely one of them. She started out in the Choir and her first solo performance was “Guide Me O Thou Jehova”. Whitney was one of the few entertainers who got a record deal, because of her true talent and not because of connections and affiliations that she had. She paved the way, with her voice and image, for many diva’s that would come after her. Whitney is free from the body and free from the matrix, which means her mission here was complete.

Even though there is tons of research proving it, many people don’t believe that there is a secret society that controls the music and film industry. This is mostly due to ignorance and those people that make this claim are usually the ones who have done zero research into the topic. They simply make these statements because they don’t want to awaken from their celebrity dream world and that is ok. This is why the owners of the matrix put so much money and time into promoting celebrities, because the celebrities are the stars that keep the matrix alive to billions. Whitney Houston sold over 100 Million records and generated Billions of Federal Reserve notes (dollars), Euro’s, and pounds, for the world rulers. But more important than the money, Whitney Houston represented an image to the world and images in the matrix have to be controlled to their end.

I was in the music industry and anytime I involve myself in something I do research to see what I am getting myself into. When I did my research on the music industry I found out that there are 3 major labels that own the Industry and all of the smaller labels within it. These labels are Sony, Universal, and Warner Brothers. Now, what most people don’t realize is that these record labels are all owned by certain Elite families. Just because a company is a publically traded one doesn’t mean that it can’t be privately owned. A publically traded company is broken down into three parts, bonds, preferred stocks, and common stocks.  A corporation is issued bonds from a bank and it then begins to invest into itself with the banker money. The stocks are issued out,first to the preferred stockholders, and then the general public gets a shot at investing into the stocks, as common stock holders.

A corporation is simply a vehicle, called an artificial person in law, that is used to move finance from one place to the next. The bond holders are the true owners of the corporation and as I said above the bond holders are bankers. It is common knowledge that the global Elite run the world through the practice of banking, which is rooted in lending. The Rothschild family are the money manipulators and masters who control banking in Europe and the Rockafeller’s control banking here in the Corporate U.S. Thus, at the end of the day the entertainment industry is controlled and owned by the bankers, just like every other industry.

Everything that takes place in public is first planned in private through secret societies. This is the way the world has always worked and the music industry is no exception to this. Before a entertainer is given a recording contract they must first be a member of a secret society. A so called X member of the illuminati, who was a music executive in the 70’s spoke about this publically, his name was John Todd. According to Todd, every musician and entertainer in the music industry and Hollywood, has to be a initiated wizard or witch before they are offered a recording contract. This is what some writers have called the selling of the soul or light to Lucifer. In his speeches John Todd further demonstrates that after the record is cut and the master is finished, it is then given to a coven of witches and wizards who conjure up a demon. Once the demon is conjured the witches and wizards ask the entity to attach itself to every copy or duplicate that is sold to the public, which guarantees the success of the record and also takes control of the listener. If you want to research Todd’s work in full I have all of his recorded material on MP3 and would be glad to send it to you. (Email me at 13signsastrology@gmail.com)

The point I am making above is that the music industry is a cult and once one gets a record deal they are now an initiate and are a part of the cult for life. Whitney Houston was no exception to this rule and she took the oath back in the 70’s. Once the oath is pledged you become the property of the record labels and the machines and you can NEVER retire. The only way out of the game is death! If you think I’m lying, please email me with one entertainer who has successfully retired from the industry, never to come back again. There is no way out.

Whitney Houston reached the peak of her career in 1992 when she starred in the film Body Guard, with Kevin Costner. If you notice all of the big entertainers have to do a film when they reach their peak so that they can generate more capital for their masters aka the label. Whitney had a pristine image, for the most part, and this is why many, including myself, respected her. In her music and even in the Body Guard film she played the type of person she was in real life. Little did Whitney know that the people that control the industry love to breakdown the image of pure and clean folks and this is exactly what they set out to do after the Body Guard film. She later starred in Waiting To Exhale and Cinderella, but information began to leak that she was often late for interviews and a no show sometimes. This was around the same time she met and would eventually marry Bobby Brown.

You see, in the music industry nothing happens without the consent of the label and Whitney meeting and marrying Bobby Brown was no different. The life of an entertainer doesn’t stop when the cameras go off, the entertainment spills over into your personal life, because as I said above, when you sign the deal you are now the property of the labels. The labels allowed Whitney to Marry Bobby Brown and if one does any investigation they will see that her life began to go downhill shortly after. Now I’m not blaming Bobby for Whitney’s fall, because he took the oath and made a deal with the goat just like her, so I believe they used Bobby to make Whitney’s life more interesting and to begin to tarnish her image. Like I said the music industry is not for the pure hearted and Whitney was a pure soul indeed! The labels knew what kind of person Bobby was and they knew he would be a good pick for their goals with Whitney. So, the labels began to work rituals based on Bobby and Whitney’s relationship, remember everybody in the game aka the industry plays a part even when the cameras go off.

Whitney Houston stated in her interview with Oprah in 2010 that she was attracted to Bobby because he, “took control of her and their relationship, and she liked that.” In reality Bobby was acting as Whitney’s handler, which is a term used in mind control. A handler is one who is used within a mind control experiment to break another and to get them to do what the controllers of the experiment want, this was Bobby’s role. The labels wanted to spice up Whitney’s life aka destroy her pristine image, which they had been targeting since she got into the industry. You may wonder why they would want to do a thing like this, but if you’re not in the industry then you can’t imagine how diabolical the people are who run the show. These people thrive on drama, sex, violence, and drugs. As they say, sex sales! Entertainers are products of the elite and they are treated as such, they (The Elite) don’t give a shit about human values morals and the likes. The people that are behind the scenes are master witches and wizards and their goals are constant control and power.

Whitney Houston was addicted to cocain and she became infamous for this habit. You have to ask you’re self why was she addicted to cocain, because from a metaphysical point of view, people that use drugs are using them to cover up something. According to her 2010 interview with Oprah, Whitney said, “Bobby would draw eyes all over their home.” Could these be the all seeing eye that depicts Lucifer’s eye within the occult. I already proved above that these people are witches and wizards. She further states that, “Bobby was her drug”, which further proves that she was using the drugs as an escape from her life with Bobby. Whitney wasn’t happy with herself and the way her life was ending up and in the same interview with Oprah she even referred to herself as “the devil.”

According to Bobby Brown’s sister, who would go on drug binges with the couple, “Whitney hallucinates and sees demons when she’s high; she bites and beats herself black-and-blue but blames the devil for the injuries.” Bobby’s sister Tina goes on to say that,  Houston sees ‘demons’ everywhere she goes, and beats herself up while saying “The Devil be hitting me.” Tina claimed that drugs have made Whitney so paranoid she sees evil apparitions and once drilled a spy-hole in her bathroom to look for “demons.” She said: “She’ll point to the floor and say, ‘See that demon. I’m telling you somebody’s messing with Bobby.’ She always thinks it’s something to do with Bobby.” She added: “She breaks everything – mirrors, phones, cabinets, appliances.”Now, ask yourself, what’s really going on within the music industry? Is it just drugs or was Whitney demon possessed? Why are all of these celebs hooked on drugs and why are all of these celebs dying young?

Whitney was of no use to the industry anymore because as many of you know she couldn’t sing the way she use to. The drugs and the demons drained her life force, because Whitney was pure and wasn’t built for demonology. Whitney was sacrificed aka thrown from the freedom train, and done away with a day before the grammy’s as a industry ritual. She was found dead in a bath tub within the hotel of Clive Davis’s pre- Grammy Awards party. This was a ritual, just like every other aspect of Whitney’s life. Whitney was born on August the 9th and died on February 11th. (9-11) 9-11 is a numerical code used by the elite to perform human sacrifice rituals and Whitneys death was no exception. She died a night before the Grammy’s because within the occult one can harness the energy of the deceased to attain the ends of their choice. Whitney’s energy will be used for the awards tonight and this is why the media jumped all over her death before the cause was even discovered. This is a ritual folks.

My last piece of information that I will submit, about the occult connections to the music industry, is Madonna’s performance at the Super Bowl. This performance, by Madonna, was a High priestess ceremony. The costume worn by Madonna speaks volumes as to her rank with the secret society within the music industry. Madonna was interviewed, prior to the Super Bowl, on Anderson Cooper show and she said, “The Superbowl is kind of like the Holy of Holies in America. I’ll come at halfway of the “church experience” and I’m gonna have to deliver a sermon. It’ll have to be very impactful. Don’t take her words for granite, as she is telling you that her performance was a ritual. The Holy of Holies is the name of the most sacred place found within Solomon’s Temple. No one was ever permitted to enter the Holy of Holies but the High Priest. This privilege was only granted on the Day of Atonement, to offer the blood of sacrifice and incense before the mercy seat. Whitney Houston was the Blood sacrifice that was offered on the Sabbath day, or Saturday, exactly 7 days after Madonna’s performance.

(http://occultandmusic.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/madonna.jpg?w=300&h=161)

So there you have it folks. The music industry is really a secret society in disguise and it’s much more than music. If you’re considering being an entertainer do your research and know what you’re getting yourself into. Without knowledge of the occult one doesn’t stand a chance of surviving within the music and film industry. If you enjoy your own self expression and individuality then the industry isn’t for you. Once the deal is made your life will be ritualized and controlled forever.

http://occultandmusic.wordpress.com/2012/02/12/whitney-houstons-death-and-the-secret-society-called-the-music-industry/

I'm glad you posted these articles Paula because I think there is a lot of truth in them, it's what I've been feeling too but as soon as someone says "sacrifice", eyes roll and since I had already said the same about, most recently, Amy Winehouse, I didn't just want to come out and say it again about Whitney.  But it really can't be ignored or dismissed.  For those who haven't read the articles, please read them before being totally against the idea.  If you, as the reader, still want to dismiss it, that's fine - it's your right to believe as you wish.  I'm not saying myself that I agree with every word written. For me, it's literally a feeling I have that is there and I can't do anything about it.  And I know there are others on here who feel the same, not just about Whitney and the other victims but on a broader scope where events around the world, while seemingly random, are very much tied in together and obviously part of a plan.

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@Paula...thankyou for posting this article. Something here is way off. The dates, Clive Davis' party happening downstairs while Whitney's body lies 4 floor above. How brazen and in your face are these people becoming. Or are they convinced that it's only conspiracy 'nutters' who will see and talk about this while others go along with the reasoning that Whitney was in bad shape and it was inevitable [albeit the day before the grammies coincidently   :?]
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Whitney was of no use to the industry anymore because as many of you know she couldn’t sing the way she use to. The drugs and the demons drained her life force, because Whitney was pure and wasn’t built for demonology. Whitney was sacrificed aka thrown from the freedom train, and done away with a day before the grammy’s as a industry ritual. She was found dead in a bath tub within the hotel of Clive Davis’s pre- Grammy Awards party. This was a ritual, just like every other aspect of Whitney’s life. Whitney was born on August the 9th and died on February 11th. (9-11) 9-11 is a numerical code used by the elite to perform human sacrifice rituals and Whitneys death was no exception. She died a night before the Grammy’s because within the occult one can harness the energy of the deceased to attain the ends of their choice. Whitney’s energy will be used for the awards tonight and this is why the media jumped all over her death before the cause was even discovered. This is a ritual folks.

Jennifer Hudson....be careful...they are already throwing your name around as heir apparent.

Look what's already happened to Jennifer - her mother, brother and nephew were murdered in October 2008.  She, like Whitney, is/was signed with Clive Davis. 

I also mentioned before that the Clive Davis party was the pre-Grammy event that Rihanna was beaten, apparently after leaving, allegedly by Chris Brown.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: techdiva on February 13, 2012, 08:47:36 PM
Did anyone noticed that Whitney Houston was taken out of the hotel in a white sheet instead a black body bag? Why did they keep her body in the room so long until the party was almost over?
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: suspicious mind on February 13, 2012, 09:02:05 PM
sorry if this is already posted as i only skimmed the thread. i think it is beautiful.

http://www.vevo.com/watch/whitney-houston/i-look-to-you/USAV70900033
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: MichaelsAngel on February 13, 2012, 09:03:27 PM
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And this is what the DEA requires all doctors to use, who are registered to write Opiates (tamper resistant Rx pads): http://www.rxpaper.com/California.jpg (http://www.rxpaper.com/California.jpg)
As long as the person's real name is used, then the DEA has everything straight. I do have a feeling that many doctor's are going to have
their wrists slapped over this. There will be some bro-haha, and then only if they're caught, will they be penalized.

It's illegal for others to access anyone's medical records, other than those with a reason, period, the end! The woman who got into Farrah
Fawcett's records broke the law!

More info:http://www.rxpaper.com/CA-pad-order-CART.html
Doctors must register with the DEA, it's quite complicated - but it's done so, to weed out those who'd give out drugs freely.

FYI - this came down, either 2008 0r 2009, because of either Heath Ledger or Michael Jackson. I've been on pain medication for about 10 years now, and I do remember when docs didn't need this special paper, filed with the DEA.

In other words: Each, and every pill I swallow that's a schedule drug, is recorded by the DEA.
It's like that for everyone, who takes Opiates.

Please feel free to post these links where appropriate. It did take some digging.



Tink, the government breaks the law EVERYDAY, there is NO CONSQUENCES...PERIOD!

Your doctor works for BIG PHARMA!! 
BIG PHARMA KILLED....SAY IT FOR WHAT IT IS... BIG PHARMA KILLED WHITNEY HOUSTON WITH THE TOXIC SHIT THEY CALL ....PRESCRIPTION MEDICATION!

Do American's really think their medical records are confidential?
Do American's know when they order a pizza from local pizza joint that your information is sold to local police departments so they can get you on a warrant?
You better hope your pizza arrives before the sheriff does.

And if you think your doctor has your best interest in mind......let me tell you they dont.......I'll tell you why....

When I was on my adderall, I was taking 60 mg in morning & 60mg in afternoon. The highest dosage my doctor ever prescribed. When I was going thru what I thought was depression, I went back to my doctor, he wanted to add ANOTHER anti-depressent.

I said no, i suggested an increase in my adderall. which I was at 50mg x2 daily. He said he wanted me to see a therapist to get thier opinion. I went there, she asked me why I wanted an increase, not knowing anything about the man-made disease of ADHD, I said I was getting distracted easily.  Bam...was there for less than 10 minutes....she gave me the prescription for 60mg x2= 120 mg a day.....

When I brought the prescription in to get filled....there was always a delay with it going thru to my insurance company. I asked the pharmacist....how come there is a delay everytime I get this prescription filled? Pharmacist said she has to call insurance company to get it approved. But never told me why.....

I blew it off.....got my prescription & left......

I wasn't until after I was off my prescription that i called my insurance company on some claims & I decided to ask about why the pharmacy had to call everytime I got my Adderall filled.

What she said blew my mind...........Ma'am the dosage you we're on 120mg. It comes up with a warning of POTENTIAL OVERDOSE!....she asked if my doctor or pharmacist ever mentioned this when they prescribed this high of dosage for me?

NEVER, NEVER did my doctor, therapist, or pharmacist EVER MENTION A POSSIBLE OVERDOSE.

This is one example of "how they don't care about us"..........by Michael Jackson.

While I do agree that pharmacies and doctors over prescribe medications, I do not think that that is the entire issue. You can not deny that some prescriptions are needed. There is a reason why our life span went up and deaths from many diseases decreased with the advent of antibiotics. So I respectfully disagree that all drugs are not not needed or that if someone is sick, they can always cure it with exercise and a good diet. The problem is that people abuse everything. I think it is dangerous to say that certain mental illnesses are fake because there are people out there who truly have chemical imbalances. However, there are people who think they are depressed or just want drugs and so they pretend to have these mental illnesses. The problem is that you can not test for these mental illnesses and so doctors have to go off of what the patient says. If the patient presents them with the appropriate symptoms, they are required to treat them. They can't just say that they think they are making it up. Just like if a drug addict comes in and says they are in pain, doctors have to treat that pain as it is very real and then they can report them to the appropriate people. So yes pharmacies and doctors over prescribe medications but people have to take responsibility too. It is their responsibility to know that you can't mix alcohol with certain medications and it is their responsibility to only take the directed dose. I guess what I am trying to say is that if we want to truly fix the problem, we have to fix all sides of the issue and not just one part.   
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: YouRnotAlone7 on February 13, 2012, 09:18:18 PM
I'm concerned about singers who are innocent and become quickly tainted by the industry.  I'm sure in the near future you'll see Carrie Underwood in some big chaotic situation.   The cover of her album Cowboy Cassanova is of her with only one eye exposed.  (It won't let me cut/paste)  Here is a quote from one of her album descriptions " The cute blonde who gave us 'Jesus Take the Wheel' and 'Don't Forget to Remember Me' is suddenly wearing black, faux-leather pants and a new attitude".....    I only hope she is strong enough in her faith to refuse to get roped into drugs....the same goes for Taylor Swift.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: BeTheChange on February 13, 2012, 09:46:50 PM
I came across this interview Whitney did about her "Nothing But Love" tour where she talks about the 'dark' side of the industry.  The whole interview is good but at the 2:00 minute mark, she discusses her views on 'that' side...and I agree with her completely.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXUqdcUPpRE[/youtube]

I have no clue what's going on with her death...but she is not the first entertainer to talk about this dark side of the industry.  There have been many artists, including Mike, who've spoken against it...either publically or through their music.  IMO, this 'dark' side has become much more blatant and in your face...and that's why I am completely 'turned off' by what passes as 'music' or 'performances' these days. 

For those that thought Madonna's superbowl performance was 'dark'...Nicki Minaj's 'performance' last night puts the captial D in the word (I'm not gonna post it here cause it would mar Whitney's thread).  IMO, it was disgusting/tasteless/pathetic...and whether or not it was meant as a 'ritual' of some sort is besides the point...because it IS what it symbolized (whether real or not).  And no matter how you slice it...it definitely wasn't 'light'.  Was it to stir controversy cause that sells?  Could be...perhaps that's the reason behind it....she's just trying to boost her sales.  But that in itself speaks volumes about the artist, doesn't it?  It does to me...and I ain't buying into it.  And neither did Whitney.

Funny how THE biggest standing ovation last night went to Adele...a class act who literally just stood there and shared her God-given talent....no poles, altars, exorcisms or horns necessary. 

I don't know whether or not the 'illuminati' had a role in Whitney's death....it can't be 'proven' either way, not at this point anyway (and maybe it never will be, who knows?).  But, at some point, 'coincidences' stop looking and feeling like coincidences and instead, patterns start to emerge.  And no matter which side of the 'debate' you're on...the patterns with 'star' deaths lately are off the charts.  How deep those rabbit holes go...I have no clue.  What I do know is that they're 'dark'.

With L.O.V.E. always.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: ilovemjforever on February 13, 2012, 10:02:42 PM
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Whitney's Death: An Earlier Incident?

EXCLUSIVE — Whitney Houston’s death made for a long day’s journey into night at the Beverly Hilton. While the Clive Davis Grammy dinner had to proceed downstairs in the ballroom–with 800 guests already filing in as the news was breaking–Whitney remained in state, so to speak, in her fourth floor suite. She was not removed until just moments before the party ended–a little after midnight. She’d been in the suite, discovered in her bathtub. But there were many people in the suite when this happened at 3:50pm including her daughter Bobbi Kristina, her brother Gary, sister in law Pat Houston, and another player in this story — a nightlife friend who’d been guiding her around town the last few days as she was photographed in states of duress.

What you don’t know is that around 11pm, paramedics were called back to the fourth floor. Security and police raced back to the 4th floor. A medical wheelchair with restraints was brought in through the back entrance to the hotel. Bobbi Kristina “freaked out”–well, she’d been upstairs for hours with her mother’s dead body in the next room. It was understandable. The paramedics thought they were going to to have to take her to the hospital. But calm was restored. For ten minutes, though, security cleared the entire lobby of the hotel while the concert was going on inside the ballroom. I was out there at that moment, and it was one of the strangest scenes ever.

Then there’s the mysterious story of a leak that occurred the night before from Whitney’s group of suites. A man on the third floor right underneath Houston’s suite suddenly experienced water cascading into his bathroom from above at 2:30am. It wasn’t just a trickle. The man called security, then went upstairs to the fourth floor to see what was going on. He swears to me that it was Whitney’s bathtub that was overflowing. He also says that a flat screen television had been been broken–the screen was smashed. My sources at the hotel say there was a “leak” but that it wasn’t from Whitney’s room. “They [her group] have a lot of rooms up there,” says the hotel source. My source, this man, insists that he was told it was Whitney Houston’s room. It does seem to have been part of her group of rooms.

There are many mysteries here. None of them have been reported or solved by TMZ or one of the other muckracking tabloids. I know the man who had to pull Whitney out of the bathtub yesterday and attempt to give her CPR. He told me, “She was already dead. There was nothing I could do.”

More on Whitney’s death and the Grammy party follows in the next post. And believe me, dear readers, this isn’t easy. I’ve known Whitney Houston and her family for over 25 years. She was a beautiful girl with a big heart. She was full of optimism. Her mother is one of the finest people. The people who worked for and with her were devoted to her. When the shock turns to anger there will be a lot of finger pointing. But in the end, Whitney ruled her own .

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Whitney Houston’s Death and The Secret-Society, Called The Music Industry

I was asked by a family member, who knows I’m an occult researcher, to look into Whitney Houston’s death, as being a sacrifice. Now, I don’t usually do too many articles on the illuminati and their connections with the music industry, because there are thousands of researchers that investigate this sort of thing, but when I looked into this one I figured it was worth sharing my opinions with the world.

Before I get into my research I want to say that I was a Whitney Houston fan and I never judged her as a crackhead, like many others. I know that it is strong people within the music industry and she was definitely one of them. She started out in the Choir and her first solo performance was “Guide Me O Thou Jehova”. Whitney was one of the few entertainers who got a record deal, because of her true talent and not because of connections and affiliations that she had. She paved the way, with her voice and image, for many diva’s that would come after her. Whitney is free from the body and free from the matrix, which means her mission here was complete.

Even though there is tons of research proving it, many people don’t believe that there is a secret society that controls the music and film industry. This is mostly due to ignorance and those people that make this claim are usually the ones who have done zero research into the topic. They simply make these statements because they don’t want to awaken from their celebrity dream world and that is ok. This is why the owners of the matrix put so much money and time into promoting celebrities, because the celebrities are the stars that keep the matrix alive to billions. Whitney Houston sold over 100 Million records and generated Billions of Federal Reserve notes (dollars), Euro’s, and pounds, for the world rulers. But more important than the money, Whitney Houston represented an image to the world and images in the matrix have to be controlled to their end.

I was in the music industry and anytime I involve myself in something I do research to see what I am getting myself into. When I did my research on the music industry I found out that there are 3 major labels that own the Industry and all of the smaller labels within it. These labels are Sony, Universal, and Warner Brothers. Now, what most people don’t realize is that these record labels are all owned by certain Elite families. Just because a company is a publically traded one doesn’t mean that it can’t be privately owned. A publically traded company is broken down into three parts, bonds, preferred stocks, and common stocks.  A corporation is issued bonds from a bank and it then begins to invest into itself with the banker money. The stocks are issued out,first to the preferred stockholders, and then the general public gets a shot at investing into the stocks, as common stock holders.

A corporation is simply a vehicle, called an artificial person in law, that is used to move finance from one place to the next. The bond holders are the true owners of the corporation and as I said above the bond holders are bankers. It is common knowledge that the global Elite run the world through the practice of banking, which is rooted in lending. The Rothschild family are the money manipulators and masters who control banking in Europe and the Rockafeller’s control banking here in the Corporate U.S. Thus, at the end of the day the entertainment industry is controlled and owned by the bankers, just like every other industry.

Everything that takes place in public is first planned in private through secret societies. This is the way the world has always worked and the music industry is no exception to this. Before a entertainer is given a recording contract they must first be a member of a secret society. A so called X member of the illuminati, who was a music executive in the 70’s spoke about this publically, his name was John Todd. According to Todd, every musician and entertainer in the music industry and Hollywood, has to be a initiated wizard or witch before they are offered a recording contract. This is what some writers have called the selling of the soul or light to Lucifer. In his speeches John Todd further demonstrates that after the record is cut and the master is finished, it is then given to a coven of witches and wizards who conjure up a demon. Once the demon is conjured the witches and wizards ask the entity to attach itself to every copy or duplicate that is sold to the public, which guarantees the success of the record and also takes control of the listener. If you want to research Todd’s work in full I have all of his recorded material on MP3 and would be glad to send it to you. (Email me at 13signsastrology@gmail.com)

The point I am making above is that the music industry is a cult and once one gets a record deal they are now an initiate and are a part of the cult for life. Whitney Houston was no exception to this rule and she took the oath back in the 70’s. Once the oath is pledged you become the property of the record labels and the machines and you can NEVER retire. The only way out of the game is death! If you think I’m lying, please email me with one entertainer who has successfully retired from the industry, never to come back again. There is no way out.

Whitney Houston reached the peak of her career in 1992 when she starred in the film Body Guard, with Kevin Costner. If you notice all of the big entertainers have to do a film when they reach their peak so that they can generate more capital for their masters aka the label. Whitney had a pristine image, for the most part, and this is why many, including myself, respected her. In her music and even in the Body Guard film she played the type of person she was in real life. Little did Whitney know that the people that control the industry love to breakdown the image of pure and clean folks and this is exactly what they set out to do after the Body Guard film. She later starred in Waiting To Exhale and Cinderella, but information began to leak that she was often late for interviews and a no show sometimes. This was around the same time she met and would eventually marry Bobby Brown.

You see, in the music industry nothing happens without the consent of the label and Whitney meeting and marrying Bobby Brown was no different. The life of an entertainer doesn’t stop when the cameras go off, the entertainment spills over into your personal life, because as I said above, when you sign the deal you are now the property of the labels. The labels allowed Whitney to Marry Bobby Brown and if one does any investigation they will see that her life began to go downhill shortly after. Now I’m not blaming Bobby for Whitney’s fall, because he took the oath and made a deal with the goat just like her, so I believe they used Bobby to make Whitney’s life more interesting and to begin to tarnish her image. Like I said the music industry is not for the pure hearted and Whitney was a pure soul indeed! The labels knew what kind of person Bobby was and they knew he would be a good pick for their goals with Whitney. So, the labels began to work rituals based on Bobby and Whitney’s relationship, remember everybody in the game aka the industry plays a part even when the cameras go off.

Whitney Houston stated in her interview with Oprah in 2010 that she was attracted to Bobby because he, “took control of her and their relationship, and she liked that.” In reality Bobby was acting as Whitney’s handler, which is a term used in mind control. A handler is one who is used within a mind control experiment to break another and to get them to do what the controllers of the experiment want, this was Bobby’s role. The labels wanted to spice up Whitney’s life aka destroy her pristine image, which they had been targeting since she got into the industry. You may wonder why they would want to do a thing like this, but if you’re not in the industry then you can’t imagine how diabolical the people are who run the show. These people thrive on drama, sex, violence, and drugs. As they say, sex sales! Entertainers are products of the elite and they are treated as such, they (The Elite) don’t give a shit about human values morals and the likes. The people that are behind the scenes are master witches and wizards and their goals are constant control and power.

Whitney Houston was addicted to cocain and she became infamous for this habit. You have to ask you’re self why was she addicted to cocain, because from a metaphysical point of view, people that use drugs are using them to cover up something. According to her 2010 interview with Oprah, Whitney said, “Bobby would draw eyes all over their home.” Could these be the all seeing eye that depicts Lucifer’s eye within the occult. I already proved above that these people are witches and wizards. She further states that, “Bobby was her drug”, which further proves that she was using the drugs as an escape from her life with Bobby. Whitney wasn’t happy with herself and the way her life was ending up and in the same interview with Oprah she even referred to herself as “the devil.”

According to Bobby Brown’s sister, who would go on drug binges with the couple, “Whitney hallucinates and sees demons when she’s high; she bites and beats herself black-and-blue but blames the devil for the injuries.” Bobby’s sister Tina goes on to say that,  Houston sees ‘demons’ everywhere she goes, and beats herself up while saying “The Devil be hitting me.” Tina claimed that drugs have made Whitney so paranoid she sees evil apparitions and once drilled a spy-hole in her bathroom to look for “demons.” She said: “She’ll point to the floor and say, ‘See that demon. I’m telling you somebody’s messing with Bobby.’ She always thinks it’s something to do with Bobby.” She added: “She breaks everything – mirrors, phones, cabinets, appliances.”Now, ask yourself, what’s really going on within the music industry? Is it just drugs or was Whitney demon possessed? Why are all of these celebs hooked on drugs and why are all of these celebs dying young?

Whitney was of no use to the industry anymore because as many of you know she couldn’t sing the way she use to. The drugs and the demons drained her life force, because Whitney was pure and wasn’t built for demonology. Whitney was sacrificed aka thrown from the freedom train, and done away with a day before the grammy’s as a industry ritual. She was found dead in a bath tub within the hotel of Clive Davis’s pre- Grammy Awards party. This was a ritual, just like every other aspect of Whitney’s life. Whitney was born on August the 9th and died on February 11th. (9-11) 9-11 is a numerical code used by the elite to perform human sacrifice rituals and Whitneys death was no exception. She died a night before the Grammy’s because within the occult one can harness the energy of the deceased to attain the ends of their choice. Whitney’s energy will be used for the awards tonight and this is why the media jumped all over her death before the cause was even discovered. This is a ritual folks.

My last piece of information that I will submit, about the occult connections to the music industry, is Madonna’s performance at the Super Bowl. This performance, by Madonna, was a High priestess ceremony. The costume worn by Madonna speaks volumes as to her rank with the secret society within the music industry. Madonna was interviewed, prior to the Super Bowl, on Anderson Cooper show and she said, “The Superbowl is kind of like the Holy of Holies in America. I’ll come at halfway of the “church experience” and I’m gonna have to deliver a sermon. It’ll have to be very impactful. Don’t take her words for granite, as she is telling you that her performance was a ritual. The Holy of Holies is the name of the most sacred place found within Solomon’s Temple. No one was ever permitted to enter the Holy of Holies but the High Priest. This privilege was only granted on the Day of Atonement, to offer the blood of sacrifice and incense before the mercy seat. Whitney Houston was the Blood sacrifice that was offered on the Sabbath day, or Saturday, exactly 7 days after Madonna’s performance.

(http://occultandmusic.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/madonna.jpg?w=300&h=161)

So there you have it folks. The music industry is really a secret society in disguise and it’s much more than music. If you’re considering being an entertainer do your research and know what you’re getting yourself into. Without knowledge of the occult one doesn’t stand a chance of surviving within the music and film industry. If you enjoy your own self expression and individuality then the industry isn’t for you. Once the deal is made your life will be ritualized and controlled forever.

http://occultandmusic.wordpress.com/2012/02/12/whitney-houstons-death-and-the-secret-society-called-the-music-industry/

I'm glad you posted these articles Paula because I think there is a lot of truth in them, it's what I've been feeling too but as soon as someone says "sacrifice", eyes roll and since I had already said the same about, most recently, Amy Winehouse, I didn't just want to come out and say it again about Whitney.  But it really can't be ignored or dismissed.  For those who haven't read the articles, please read them before being totally against the idea.  If you, as the reader, still want to dismiss it, that's fine - it's your right to believe as you wish.  I'm not saying myself that I agree with every word written. For me, it's literally a feeling I have that is there and I can't do anything about it.  And I know there are others on here who feel the same, not just about Whitney and the other victims but on a broader scope where events around the world, while seemingly random, are very much tied in together and obviously part of a plan.

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@Paula...thankyou for posting this article. Something here is way off. The dates, Clive Davis' party happening downstairs while Whitney's body lies 4 floor above. How brazen and in your face are these people becoming. Or are they convinced that it's only conspiracy 'nutters' who will see and talk about this while others go along with the reasoning that Whitney was in bad shape and it was inevitable [albeit the day before the grammies coincidently   :?]
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Whitney was of no use to the industry anymore because as many of you know she couldn’t sing the way she use to. The drugs and the demons drained her life force, because Whitney was pure and wasn’t built for demonology. Whitney was sacrificed aka thrown from the freedom train, and done away with a day before the grammy’s as a industry ritual. She was found dead in a bath tub within the hotel of Clive Davis’s pre- Grammy Awards party. This was a ritual, just like every other aspect of Whitney’s life. Whitney was born on August the 9th and died on February 11th. (9-11) 9-11 is a numerical code used by the elite to perform human sacrifice rituals and Whitneys death was no exception. She died a night before the Grammy’s because within the occult one can harness the energy of the deceased to attain the ends of their choice. Whitney’s energy will be used for the awards tonight and this is why the media jumped all over her death before the cause was even discovered. This is a ritual folks.

Jennifer Hudson....be careful...they are already throwing your name around as heir apparent.

Look what's already happened to Jennifer - her mother, brother and nephew were murdered in October 2008.  She, like Whitney, is/was signed with Clive Davis. 

I also mentioned before that the Clive Davis party was the pre-Grammy event that Rihanna was beaten, apparently after leaving, allegedly by Chris Brown.
Wow that was a very chilling and interesting article.I knew the industry was dark,but i had no idea it was that bad.I felt this was a sacrifice from the beginning,but i did not want to be disrespectful making outrageous claims within this community.The numerology is what hit me at first,then on the eve of the Grammy s,Brandy Norwoods b/day was also on Feb/11/2012,and lets not forget Nicki Minaj satanic performance last night.To many coincidences,damn i don't want to believe this.Poor Whitney,and that baby Bobbi,so sad.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Aidan_81 on February 13, 2012, 10:07:46 PM
I agree with everything she says in that interview, BeTheChange.
She was always about Love.
We get less and less Love messengers on top, we only have darkness
promoted I'm afraid. Darkness and dumbness and mean things.
And I don't care how many here call it "great art", not all art
should be poured from screens on teenage brains. We need Love
brought back, our world lacks it more and more. Love and creative,
gentle, feminine energy.  This world is more about aggression and profit,
it's frustrating. We have to evolve or it's dead end.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: voiceforthesilent on February 13, 2012, 10:33:36 PM
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And this is what the DEA requires all doctors to use, who are registered to write Opiates (tamper resistant Rx pads): http://www.rxpaper.com/California.jpg (http://www.rxpaper.com/California.jpg)
As long as the person's real name is used, then the DEA has everything straight. I do have a feeling that many doctor's are going to have
their wrists slapped over this. There will be some bro-haha, and then only if they're caught, will they be penalized.

It's illegal for others to access anyone's medical records, other than those with a reason, period, the end! The woman who got into Farrah
Fawcett's records broke the law!

More info:http://www.rxpaper.com/CA-pad-order-CART.html
Doctors must register with the DEA, it's quite complicated - but it's done so, to weed out those who'd give out drugs freely.

FYI - this came down, either 2008 0r 2009, because of either Heath Ledger or Michael Jackson. I've been on pain medication for about 10 years now, and I do remember when docs didn't need this special paper, filed with the DEA.

In other words: Each, and every pill I swallow that's a schedule drug, is recorded by the DEA.
It's like that for everyone, who takes Opiates.

Please feel free to post these links where appropriate. It did take some digging.



Tink, the government breaks the law EVERYDAY, there is NO CONSQUENCES...PERIOD!

Your doctor works for BIG PHARMA!! 
BIG PHARMA KILLED....SAY IT FOR WHAT IT IS... BIG PHARMA KILLED WHITNEY HOUSTON WITH THE TOXIC SHIT THEY CALL ....PRESCRIPTION MEDICATION!

Do American's really think their medical records are confidential?
Do American's know when they order a pizza from local pizza joint that your information is sold to local police departments so they can get you on a warrant?
You better hope your pizza arrives before the sheriff does.

And if you think your doctor has your best interest in mind......let me tell you they dont.......I'll tell you why....

When I was on my adderall, I was taking 60 mg in morning & 60mg in afternoon. The highest dosage my doctor ever prescribed. When I was going thru what I thought was depression, I went back to my doctor, he wanted to add ANOTHER anti-depressent.

I said no, i suggested an increase in my adderall. which I was at 50mg x2 daily. He said he wanted me to see a therapist to get thier opinion. I went there, she asked me why I wanted an increase, not knowing anything about the man-made disease of ADHD, I said I was getting distracted easily.  Bam...was there for less than 10 minutes....she gave me the prescription for 60mg x2= 120 mg a day.....

When I brought the prescription in to get filled....there was always a delay with it going thru to my insurance company. I asked the pharmacist....how come there is a delay everytime I get this prescription filled? Pharmacist said she has to call insurance company to get it approved. But never told me why.....

I blew it off.....got my prescription & left......

I wasn't until after I was off my prescription that i called my insurance company on some claims & I decided to ask about why the pharmacy had to call everytime I got my Adderall filled.

What she said blew my mind...........Ma'am the dosage you we're on 120mg. It comes up with a warning of POTENTIAL OVERDOSE!....she asked if my doctor or pharmacist ever mentioned this when they prescribed this high of dosage for me?

NEVER, NEVER did my doctor, therapist, or pharmacist EVER MENTION A POSSIBLE OVERDOSE.

This is one example of "how they don't care about us"..........by Michael Jackson.

LovesShyMichael - I am sorry to hear that you had a bad experience but just because there are some doctors out there who are over prescribing and misusing their station in life doesn't mean they all are.

I can assure you that not all doctors are bad; not all doctors just want your money, and not all doctors will prescribe you something just because you want it. Not all doctors are in it just for the money either, and it takes many years to pay off their school debt. You are throwing everyone into the same category and that is wrong.

Regarding the DEA - what Tink says is true. In fact, doctors get into a huge amount of trouble if they are caught not keeping their Rx pads locked up. Some of the larger institutes have gone to electronic Rx pads which helps prevent abuse. There are measures being take to ensure the safety of the patient.

I totally understand your side - but in moderation most drugs work. The problem is that either the doctor or the patient can and do misuse by either over prescribing or over medicating. But, not all doctors do this.

About Whitney - I'm deeply saddened by her death. It makes me angry because it was avoidable. She was too young to leave us, to leave her daughter. She had so much to give the world and other than her problems with abuse she was relatively healthy - to our knowledge. People need to take accountability for their actions and quit playing the victim. I think if Whitney were alive today she'd say that it was a stupid thing to mix alcohol and prescription drugs. Oh - and it's clearly on the Rx labels but patients either forget, ignore it, or think it won't happen to them. Yes, there may be other factors but all that is clear right now is that she mixed the two for a lethal combination.

Lastly, my belief is that if you aren't in trouble with the law you don't have to look over your shoulder and worry about them coming to knock on your door.

Blessings
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Shamone Jackson on February 13, 2012, 10:37:32 PM
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Mick=Mickey =Mikey= Michael

Fine

Is Michael Fine :?:




YES, Michael is fine.  He's so fine he blows my mind!

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtNHSkTKHoY[/youtube]

Isn't it weird that this 80's song has the same name as this Mickey Fine pharmacy?
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: voiceforthesilent on February 13, 2012, 10:50:39 PM
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I came across this interview Whitney did about her "Nothing But Love" tour where she talks about the 'dark' side of the industry.  The whole interview is good but at the 2:00 minute mark, she discusses her views on 'that' side...and I agree with her completely.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXUqdcUPpRE[/youtube]

I have no clue what's going on with her death...but she is not the first entertainer to talk about this dark side of the industry.  There have been many artists, including Mike, who've spoken against it...either publically or through their music.  IMO, this 'dark' side has become much more blatant and in your face...and that's why I am completely 'turned off' by what passes as 'music' or 'performances' these days. 

For those that thought Madonna's superbowl performance was 'dark'...Nicki Minaj's 'performance' last night puts the captial D in the word (I'm not gonna post it here cause it would mar Whitney's thread).  IMO, it was disgusting/tasteless/pathetic...and whether or not it was meant as a 'ritual' of some sort is besides the point...because it IS what it symbolized (whether real or not).  And no matter how you slice it...it definitely wasn't 'light'.  Was it to stir controversy cause that sells?  Could be...perhaps that's the reason behind it....she's just trying to boost her sales.  But that in itself speaks volumes about the artist, doesn't it?  It does to me...and I ain't buying into it.  And neither did Whitney.

Funny how THE biggest standing ovation last night went to Adele...a class act who literally just stood there and shared her God-given talent....no poles, altars, exorcisms or horns necessary. 

I don't know whether or not the 'illuminati' had a role in Whitney's death....it can't be 'proven' either way, not at this point anyway (and maybe it never will be, who knows?).  But, at some point, 'coincidences' stop looking and feeling like coincidences and instead, patterns start to emerge.  And no matter which side of the 'debate' you're on...the patterns with 'star' deaths lately are off the charts.  How deep those rabbit holes go...I have no clue.  What I do know is that they're 'dark'.

With L.O.V.E. always.

Thank you for sharing this with us. Your words are perfect.

It's interesting that what Whitney said was almost the same as what Michael has said over the years it's just that she said it a little bit differently. But they both meant the same thing.

I have to agree with her regarding the dark side - it's very disturbing to watch.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Shamone Jackson on February 13, 2012, 11:16:15 PM
paula-c,

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Then there’s the mysterious story of a leak that occurred the night before from Whitney’s group of suites. A man on the third floor right underneath Houston’s suite suddenly experienced water cascading into his bathroom from above at 2:30am. It wasn’t just a trickle. The man called security, then went upstairs to the fourth floor to see what was going on. He swears to me that it was Whitney’s bathtub that was overflowing. He also says that a flat screen television had been been broken–the screen was smashed. My sources at the hotel say there was a “leak” but that it wasn’t from Whitney’s room. “They [her group] have a lot of rooms up there,” says the hotel source. My source, this man, insists that he was told it was Whitney Houston’s room. It does seem to have been part of her group of rooms.


If that really happened, then it is a coincidence with MJ.  Wasn't there some water pipe leak from MJ's home on Carolwood?
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Grace on February 14, 2012, 01:24:24 AM
So the Beverly Hilton has bath tubs without an overflow valve (or even stopper) ...  :?:
Just in case, here's how to do it: http://www.plumbinghelp.ca/bathtub-installation.php (http://www.plumbinghelp.ca/bathtub-installation.php)
An "overflow" can only happen when a shower head is placed outside of a bath tub.
So far for the "overflowing bath tub".

The TV screen was broken ...  :?:
A hotel guest is not allowed to enter another hotel guest room no matter if there is fire, water or mud coming out of it - let alone enter a star's hotel suite.
No guests may state any of what they saw - except if they were invited into the room - and this will not happen at 2:30 a.m. when allegedly water is pouring down.
Staff is discreet anyway

IMO the story details are untrue.
Maybe something did happen.
But a man who needs to "swear" he's telling the truth is telling lies IMO.
This is fishing for 5 seconds of fame.


Much more interesting are other details of the articles - thanks to all posters.
How come that a "not so much important anymore since top years are gone" singer is having a suite in Beverly Hilton when allegedly she is broke? Who was paying for this? Invited? The bill went where?

The reported incident with Bobbi in the bathtub - did someone attempt and caught the wrong one at first?
When there is much come and go in party times many things seem possible.
Title: Re: covering the bathtub overflow mechanism
Post by: Tink on February 14, 2012, 03:31:02 AM
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Whitney's Death: An Earlier Incident?



EXCLUSIVE — Whitney Houston’s death made for a long day’s journey into night at the Beverly Hilton. While the Clive Davis Grammy dinner had to proceed downstairs in the ballroom–with 800 guests already filing in as the news was breaking–Whitney remained in state, so to speak, in her fourth floor suite. She was not removed until just moments before the party ended–a little after midnight. She’d been in the suite, discovered in her bathtub. But there were many people in the suite when this happened at 3:50pm including her daughter Bobbi Kristina, her brother Gary, sister in law Pat Houston, and another player in this story — a nightlife friend who’d been guiding her around town the last few days as she was photographed in states of duress.

What you don’t know is that around 11pm, paramedics were called back to the fourth floor. Security and police raced back to the 4th floor. A medical wheelchair with restraints was brought in through the back entrance to the hotel. Bobbi Kristina “freaked out”–well, she’d been upstairs for hours with her mother’s dead body in the next room. It was understandable. The paramedics thought they were going to to have to take her to the hospital. But calm was restored. For ten minutes, though, security cleared the entire lobby of the hotel while the concert was going on inside the ballroom. I was out there at that moment, and it was one of the strangest scenes ever.


Then there’s the mysterious story of a leak that occurred the night before from Whitney’s group of suites. A man on the third floor right underneath Houston’s suite suddenly experienced water cascading into his bathroom from above at 2:30am. It wasn’t just a trickle. The man called security, then went upstairs to the fourth floor to see what was going on. He swears to me that it was Whitney’s bathtub that was overflowing. He also says that a flat screen television had been been broken–the screen was smashed. My sources at the hotel say there was a “leak” but that it wasn’t from Whitney’s room. “They [her group] have a lot of rooms up there,” says the hotel source. My source, this man, insists that he was told it was Whitney Houston’s room. It does seem to have been part of her group of rooms.

There are many mysteries here. None of them have been reported or solved by TMZ or one of the other muckracking tabloids. I know the man who had to pull Whitney out of the bathtub yesterday and attempt to give her CPR. He told me, “She was already dead. There was nothing I could do.”

More on Whitney’s death and the Grammy party follows in the next post. And believe me, dear readers, this isn’t easy. I’ve known Whitney Houston and her family for over 25 years. She was a beautiful girl with a big heart. She was full of optimism. Her mother is one of the finest people. The people who worked for and with her were devoted to her. When the shock turns to anger there will be a lot of finger pointing. But in the end, Whitney ruled her own .

http://www.forbes.com/sites/rogerfriedman/2012/02/12/whitneys-death-an-earlier-incident/

It's quite easy to do: use a piece of plastic, coffee cup saucer - anything will do in a pinch! Nobody's ever thought those pesky overflow's were of any concern for HUMAN safety, you know! So what if she overflowed the dude downstairs? Who doesn't enjoy a deep, luxurious bath.

Until now.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: MJonmind on February 14, 2012, 03:58:38 AM
Tink
 
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That's from a comic book in the late '80s by DC comics series called WASTELAND, issue #16! Issue is called Heartshadow.
 WRITTEN BY JOHN OSTRANDER, drawn by Rick Magyar.
Thank you for the correction.
http://www.comicmix.com/news/2009/07/01/one-more-tragic-connection-between-michael-jackson-and-comics/ (http://www.comicmix.com/news/2009/07/01/one-more-tragic-connection-between-michael-jackson-and-comics/)
http://www.comics.org/issue/64732/ (http://www.comics.org/issue/64732/)


Shamone Jackson
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If that really happened, then it is a coincidence with MJ.  Wasn't there some water pipe leak from MJ's home on Carolwood?
Yes, only it was after the "death" day.

Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Tink on February 14, 2012, 04:22:45 AM
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Whitney Houston’s Death and The Secret-Society, Called The Music Industry


I was asked by a family member, who knows I’m an occult researcher, to look into Whitney Houston’s death, as being a sacrifice. Now, I don’t usually do too many articles on the illuminati and their connections with the music industry, because there are thousands of researchers that investigate this sort of thing, but when I looked into this one I figured it was worth sharing my opinions with the world.

Before I get into my research I want to say that I was a Whitney Houston fan and I never judged her as a crackhead, like many others. I know that it is strong people within the music industry and she was definitely one of them. She started out in the Choir and her first solo performance was “Guide Me O Thou Jehova”. Whitney was one of the few entertainers who got a record deal, because of her true talent and not because of connections and affiliations that she had. She paved the way, with her voice and image, for many diva’s that would come after her. Whitney is free from the body and free from the matrix, which means her mission here was complete.

Even though there is tons of research proving it, many people don’t believe that there is a secret society that controls the music and film industry. This is mostly due to ignorance and those people that make this claim are usually the ones who have done zero research into the topic. They simply make these statements because they don’t want to awaken from their celebrity dream world and that is ok. This is why the owners of the matrix put so much money and time into promoting celebrities, because the celebrities are the stars that keep the matrix alive to billions. Whitney Houston sold over 100 Million records and generated Billions of Federal Reserve notes (dollars), Euro’s, and pounds, for the world rulers. But more important than the money, Whitney Houston represented an image to the world and images in the matrix have to be controlled to their end.

I was in the music industry and anytime I involve myself in something I do research to see what I am getting myself into. When I did my research on the music industry I found out that there are 3 major labels that own the Industry and all of the smaller labels within it. These labels are Sony, Universal, and Warner Brothers. Now, what most people don’t realize is that these record labels are all owned by certain Elite families. Just because a company is a publically traded one doesn’t mean that it can’t be privately owned. A publically traded company is broken down into three parts, bonds, preferred stocks, and common stocks.  A corporation is issued bonds from a bank and it then begins to invest into itself with the banker money. The stocks are issued out,first to the preferred stockholders, and then the general public gets a shot at investing into the stocks, as common stock holders.

A corporation is simply a vehicle, called an artificial person in law, that is used to move finance from one place to the next. The bond holders are the true owners of the corporation and as I said above the bond holders are bankers. It is common knowledge that the global Elite run the world through the practice of banking, which is rooted in lending. The Rothschild family are the money manipulators and masters who control banking in Europe and the Rockafeller’s control banking here in the Corporate U.S. Thus, at the end of the day the entertainment industry is controlled and owned by the bankers, just like every other industry.

Everything that takes place in public is first planned in private through secret societies. This is the way the world has always worked and the music industry is no exception to this. Before a entertainer is given a recording contract they must first be a member of a secret society. A so called X member of the illuminati, who was a music executive in the 70’s spoke about this publically, his name was John Todd. According to Todd, every musician and entertainer in the music industry and Hollywood, has to be a initiated wizard or witch before they are offered a recording contract. This is what some writers have called the selling of the soul or light to Lucifer. In his speeches John Todd further demonstrates that after the record is cut and the master is finished, it is then given to a coven of witches and wizards who conjure up a demon. Once the demon is conjured the witches and wizards ask the entity to attach itself to every copy or duplicate that is sold to the public, which guarantees the success of the record and also takes control of the listener. If you want to research Todd’s work in full I have all of his recorded material on MP3 and would be glad to send it to you. (Email me at 13signsastrology@gmail.com)



The point I am making above is that the music industry is a cult and once one gets a record deal they are now an initiate and are a part of the cult for life. Whitney Houston was no exception to this rule and she took the oath back in the 70’s. Once the oath is pledged you become the property of the record labels and the machines and you can NEVER retire. The only way out of the game is death! If you think I’m lying, please email me with one entertainer who has successfully retired from the industry, never to come back again. There is no way out.

Whitney Houston reached the peak of her career in 1992 when she starred in the film Body Guard, with Kevin Costner. If you notice all of the big entertainers have to do a film when they reach their peak so that they can generate more capital for their masters aka the label. Whitney had a pristine image, for the most part, and this is why many, including myself, respected her. In her music and even in the Body Guard film she played the type of person she was in real life. Little did Whitney know that the people that control the industry love to breakdown the image of pure and clean folks and this is exactly what they set out to do after the Body Guard film. She later starred in Waiting To Exhale and Cinderella, but information began to leak that she was often late for interviews and a no show sometimes. This was around the same time she met and would eventually marry Bobby Brown.


You see, in the music industry nothing happens without the consent of the label and Whitney meeting and marrying Bobby Brown was no different. The life of an entertainer doesn’t stop when the cameras go off, the entertainment spills over into your personal life, because as I said above, when you sign the deal you are now the property of the labels. The labels allowed Whitney to Marry Bobby Brown and if one does any investigation they will see that her life began to go downhill shortly after. Now I’m not blaming Bobby for Whitney’s fall, because he took the oath and made a deal with the goat just like her, so I believe they used Bobby to make Whitney’s life more interesting and to begin to tarnish her image. Like I said the music industry is not for the pure hearted and Whitney was a pure soul indeed! The labels knew what kind of person Bobby was and they knew he would be a good pick for their goals with Whitney. So, the labels began to work rituals based on Bobby and Whitney’s relationship, remember everybody in the game aka the industry plays a part even when the cameras go off.

Whitney Houston stated in her interview with Oprah in 2010 that she was attracted to Bobby because he, “took control of her and their relationship, and she liked that.” In reality Bobby was acting as Whitney’s handler, which is a term used in mind control. A handler is one who is used within a mind control experiment to break another and to get them to do what the controllers of the experiment want, this was Bobby’s role. The labels wanted to spice up Whitney’s life aka destroy her pristine image, which they had been targeting since she got into the industry. You may wonder why they would want to do a thing like this, but if you’re not in the industry then you can’t imagine how diabolical the people are who run the show. These people thrive on drama, sex, violence, and drugs. As they say, sex sales! Entertainers are products of the elite and they are treated as such, they (The Elite) don’t give a shit about human values morals and the likes. The people that are behind the scenes are master witches and wizards and their goals are constant control and power.

Whitney Houston was addicted to cocain and she became infamous for this habit. You have to ask you’re self why was she addicted to cocain, because from a metaphysical point of view, people that use drugs are using them to cover up something. According to her 2010 interview with Oprah, Whitney said, “Bobby would draw eyes all over their home.” Could these be the all seeing eye that depicts Lucifer’s eye within the occult. I already proved above that these people are witches and wizards. She further states that, “Bobby was her drug”, which further proves that she was using the drugs as an escape from her life with Bobby. Whitney wasn’t happy with herself and the way her life was ending up and in the same interview with Oprah she even referred to herself as “the devil.”

According to Bobby Brown’s sister, who would go on drug binges with the couple, “Whitney hallucinates and sees demons when she’s high; she bites and beats herself black-and-blue but blames the devil for the injuries.” Bobby’s sister Tina goes on to say that,  Houston sees ‘demons’ everywhere she goes, and beats herself up while saying “The Devil be hitting me.” Tina claimed that drugs have made Whitney so paranoid she sees evil apparitions and once drilled a spy-hole in her bathroom to look for “demons.” She said: “She’ll point to the floor and say, ‘See that demon. I’m telling you somebody’s messing with Bobby.’ She always thinks it’s something to do with Bobby.” She added: “She breaks everything – mirrors, phones, cabinets, appliances.”Now, ask yourself, what’s really going on within the music industry? Is it just drugs or was Whitney demon possessed? Why are all of these celebs hooked on drugs and why are all of these celebs dying young?



Whitney was of no use to the industry anymore because as many of you know she couldn’t sing the way she use to. The drugs and the demons drained her life force, because Whitney was pure and wasn’t built for demonology. Whitney was sacrificed aka thrown from the freedom train, and done away with a day before the grammy’s as a industry ritual. She was found dead in a bath tub within the hotel of Clive Davis’s pre- Grammy Awards party. This was a ritual, just like every other aspect of Whitney’s life. Whitney was born on August the 9th and died on February 11th. (9-11) 9-11 is a numerical code used by the elite to perform human sacrifice rituals and Whitneys death was no exception. She died a night before the Grammy’s because within the occult one can harness the energy of the deceased to attain the ends of their choice. Whitney’s energy will be used for the awards tonight and this is why the media jumped all over her death before the cause was even discovered. This is a ritual folks.

My last piece of information that I will submit, about the occult connections to the music industry, is Madonna’s performance at the Super Bowl. This performance, by Madonna, was a High priestess ceremony. The costume worn by Madonna speaks volumes as to her rank with the secret society within the music industry. Madonna was interviewed, prior to the Super Bowl, on Anderson Cooper show and she said, “The Superbowl is kind of like the Holy of Holies in America. I’ll come at halfway of the “church experience” and I’m gonna have to deliver a sermon. It’ll have to be very impactful. Don’t take her words for granite, as she is telling you that her performance was a ritual. The Holy of Holies is the name of the most sacred place found within Solomon’s Temple. No one was ever permitted to enter the Holy of Holies but the High Priest. This privilege was only granted on the Day of Atonement, to offer the blood of sacrifice and incense before the mercy seat. Whitney Houston was the Blood sacrifice that was offered on the Sabbath day, or Saturday, exactly 7 days after Madonna’s performance.


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So there you have it folks. The music industry is really a secret society in disguise and it’s much more than music. If you’re considering being an entertainer do your research and know what you’re getting yourself into. Without knowledge of the occult one doesn’t stand a chance of surviving within the music and film industry. If you enjoy your own self expression and individuality then the industry isn’t for you. Once the deal is made your life will be ritualized and controlled forever.

http://occultandmusic.wordpress.com/2012/02/12/whitney-houstons-death-and-the-secret-society-called-the-music-industry/

I've also heard the Whitney suffered Bipolar Disorder, and the drugs brought on Schizoaffective Disorder, of which the delusions can scare someone horribly. Look it up - it takes drugs to control.

Actually, many delusions that people have suffered and blamed others for over the centuries, have been caused by unstable minds: Schizophrenia, BPD, name it. Back then, they'd lock the "loonies" up in Insane Asylums for good.

@paula-c: What is your method of research? Anything other than websites? So - Givenchi designed Madonna's and other's outfits, perhaps the entire Halftime Shebang. Is Givenchi in on the alleged "occult" too? They're a design house, most beloved around the world.

Are you using any occult books for reference? I'd surely think you'd be using the real books, not just the internet, which can self-reference itself. Any translations from the International Museums?

There's no "Secret Society" around the music industry - I've only seen those who don't push themselves, claim that there's always "something," blocking them.

The truth of the matter? Creating music has ALWAYS been inside the artist, themselves! Whether they say they're channeling a higher power,
or sitting on couches and strumming, humming - inside a fullblown studio, it doesn't matter!


The real effort comes into touring, to pick up fans: how many dives are you willing to play in, before you go from the smaller venues, to the larger ones?
How are you promoting yourself? Those who've done well for themselves, you will see a pattern: they don't party all night, before they play the next night. They get sleep, they eat, etc.

THEY WORK THEIR BUTTS OFF! That's the real secret!



Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Tink on February 14, 2012, 05:24:01 AM
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And this is what the DEA requires all doctors to use, who are registered to write Opiates (tamper resistant Rx pads): http://www.rxpaper.com/California.jpg (http://www.rxpaper.com/California.jpg)
As long as the person's real name is used, then the DEA has everything straight. I do have a feeling that many doctor's are going to have
their wrists slapped over this. There will be some bro-haha, and then only if they're caught, will they be penalized.

It's illegal for others to access anyone's medical records, other than those with a reason, period, the end! The woman who got into Farrah
Fawcett's records broke the law!

More info:http://www.rxpaper.com/CA-pad-order-CART.html
Doctors must register with the DEA, it's quite complicated - but it's done so, to weed out those who'd give out drugs freely.

FYI - this came down, either 2008 0r 2009, because of either Heath Ledger or Michael Jackson. I've been on pain medication for about 10 years now, and I do remember when docs didn't need this special paper, filed with the DEA.

In other words: Each, and every pill I swallow that's a schedule drug, is recorded by the DEA.
It's like that for everyone, who takes Opiates.

Please feel free to post these links where appropriate. It did take some digging.



Tink, the government breaks the law EVERYDAY, there is NO CONSQUENCES...PERIOD!

Your doctor works for BIG PHARMA!! 
BIG PHARMA KILLED....SAY IT FOR WHAT IT IS... BIG PHARMA KILLED WHITNEY HOUSTON WITH THE TOXIC SHIT THEY CALL ....PRESCRIPTION MEDICATION!

Do American's really think their medical records are confidential?
Do American's know when they order a pizza from local pizza joint that your information is sold to local police departments so they can get you on a warrant?
You better hope your pizza arrives before the sheriff does.

And if you think your doctor has your best interest in mind......let me tell you they dont.......I'll tell you why....

When I was on my adderall, I was taking 60 mg in morning & 60mg in afternoon. The highest dosage my doctor ever prescribed. When I was going thru what I thought was depression, I went back to my doctor, he wanted to add ANOTHER anti-depressent.

I said no, i suggested an increase in my adderall. which I was at 50mg x2 daily. He said he wanted me to see a therapist to get thier opinion. I went there, she asked me why I wanted an increase, not knowing anything about the man-made disease of ADHD, I said I was getting distracted easily.  Bam...was there for less than 10 minutes....she gave me the prescription for 60mg x2= 120 mg a day.....

When I brought the prescription in to get filled....there was always a delay with it going thru to my insurance company. I asked the pharmacist....how come there is a delay everytime I get this prescription filled? Pharmacist said she has to call insurance company to get it approved. But never told me why.....

I blew it off.....got my prescription & left......

I wasn't until after I was off my prescription that i called my insurance company on some claims & I decided to ask about why the pharmacy had to call everytime I got my Adderall filled.

What she said blew my mind...........Ma'am the dosage you we're on 120mg. It comes up with a warning of POTENTIAL OVERDOSE!....she asked if my doctor or pharmacist ever mentioned this when they prescribed this high of dosage for me?

NEVER, NEVER did my doctor, therapist, or pharmacist EVER MENTION A POSSIBLE OVERDOSE.

This is one example of "how they don't care about us"..........by Michael Jackson.

LovesShyMichael - I am sorry to hear that you had a bad experience but just because there are some doctors out there who are over prescribing and misusing their station in life doesn't mean they all are.

I can assure you that not all doctors are bad; not all doctors just want your money, and not all doctors will prescribe you something just because you want it. Not all doctors are in it just for the money either, and it takes many years to pay off their school debt. You are throwing everyone into the same category and that is wrong.

Regarding the DEA - what Tink says is true. In fact, doctors get into a huge amount of trouble if they are caught not keeping their Rx pads locked up. Some of the larger institutes have gone to electronic Rx pads which helps prevent abuse. There are measures being take to ensure the safety of the patient.

I totally understand your side - but in moderation most drugs work. The problem is that either the doctor or the patient can and do misuse by either over prescribing or over medicating. But, not all doctors do this.

About Whitney - I'm deeply saddened by her death. It makes me angry because it was avoidable. She was too young to leave us, to leave her daughter. She had so much to give the world and other than her problems with abuse she was relatively healthy - to our knowledge. People need to take accountability for their actions and quit playing the victim. I think if Whitney were alive today she'd say that it was a stupid thing to mix alcohol and prescription drugs. Oh - and it's clearly on the Rx labels but patients either forget, ignore it, or think it won't happen to them. Yes, there may be other factors but all that is clear right now is that she mixed the two for a lethal combination.

Lastly, my belief is that if you aren't in trouble with the law you don't have to look over your shoulder and worry about them coming to knock on your door.

Blessings
@voiceforthesilent: I agree with most of what you say.
I chose my new healthcare insurance, because of their self-inclusive computer system, electronic RX pads to the pharmacy, and how the doctors and nurses can quickly communicate with ME, their patient. It's the most important thing in the world to me: my health! But, they still have to handwrite on the DEA pads for specific items, by law.

Moderation is indeed the key. To be honest? I really detest drunks at parties, because they don't see how sloppy they are - they're also stinky, sweaty and gross! Fastest way to drive me away.

And as for any possible overdose? YES - with my pills, most definitely. Which is why I use a pill minder.

I have lowest  numbers I can take, up to max numbers. Because I went out Sat., I lost my voice, and was in severe pain all day - even with
the pain meds. Was it worth going out? YES.

But I promise, I'm never going to stopper another bathtub's overflow again! OMG! I give on that one, I give on it! I never realized, that it's the height of your head, if you fall asleep and drift down. :'(

400 people per year drown in their bathtubs in America! That isn't counting falls, that often lead to permanent health issues.
http://seniorliving.about.com/od/improvepersonalsafety/a/bathtub_safety.htm (http://seniorliving.about.com/od/improvepersonalsafety/a/bathtub_safety.htm)  http://seniorliving.about.com/od/healthnutrition/a/fallstudy.htm (http://seniorliving.about.com/od/healthnutrition/a/fallstudy.htm)

Older People More Vulnerable
The CPSC study found that people age 75 and older are even more vulnerable. From 1991 to 2002, the number of people 75 and older who were treated in a U.S. hospital emergency room for product-related injuries increased an astonishing 73 percent. During the same period, the number of Americans in that age group grew by only 27 percent.

In 2006, the Centers for Disease Control reported that unintentional falls were the #1 reason adults over 45 visited the emergency room. Here's how that breaks out:
Ages 45-54: 817,043
Ages 55-64: 633,428
Age 65+: 1,840,117
Each week, more than 30,000 Americans over the age of 65 are seriously injured by falling, and nearly 250 die from their injuries, according to the NSC. Of those who do survive falling, 20-30 percent experience debilitating injuries that affect them the rest of their lives. Falling is also the leading cause of injury, and the leading cause of injury-related death, for both men and women 75 and older.

Most Fatal Falls Occur at Home
According to the NSC, 54 percent of all falling-related deaths of older people are caused by seniors falling down at home, and 20 percent of those fatal falls occur in residential institutions.

The most common serious injury from falling is a hip fracture. More than 24 percent of all people suffering a hip fracture die within a year of falling, and another 50 percent never return to their prior level of mobility and independence.

"These are preventable injuries," said CPSC Chairman Hal Stratton. "Older Americans are living longer and are more active than ever. We want them to enjoy themselves, free from debilitating injury."
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: paula-c on February 14, 2012, 07:11:37 AM
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Whitney Houston’s Death and The Secret-Society, Called The Music Industry


I was asked by a family member, who knows I’m an occult researcher, to look into Whitney Houston’s death, as being a sacrifice. Now, I don’t usually do too many articles on the illuminati and their connections with the music industry, because there are thousands of researchers that investigate this sort of thing, but when I looked into this one I figured it was worth sharing my opinions with the world.

Before I get into my research I want to say that I was a Whitney Houston fan and I never judged her as a crackhead, like many others. I know that it is strong people within the music industry and she was definitely one of them. She started out in the Choir and her first solo performance was “Guide Me O Thou Jehova”. Whitney was one of the few entertainers who got a record deal, because of her true talent and not because of connections and affiliations that she had. She paved the way, with her voice and image, for many diva’s that would come after her. Whitney is free from the body and free from the matrix, which means her mission here was complete.

Even though there is tons of research proving it, many people don’t believe that there is a secret society that controls the music and film industry. This is mostly due to ignorance and those people that make this claim are usually the ones who have done zero research into the topic. They simply make these statements because they don’t want to awaken from their celebrity dream world and that is ok. This is why the owners of the matrix put so much money and time into promoting celebrities, because the celebrities are the stars that keep the matrix alive to billions. Whitney Houston sold over 100 Million records and generated Billions of Federal Reserve notes (dollars), Euro’s, and pounds, for the world rulers. But more important than the money, Whitney Houston represented an image to the world and images in the matrix have to be controlled to their end.

I was in the music industry and anytime I involve myself in something I do research to see what I am getting myself into. When I did my research on the music industry I found out that there are 3 major labels that own the Industry and all of the smaller labels within it. These labels are Sony, Universal, and Warner Brothers. Now, what most people don’t realize is that these record labels are all owned by certain Elite families. Just because a company is a publically traded one doesn’t mean that it can’t be privately owned. A publically traded company is broken down into three parts, bonds, preferred stocks, and common stocks.  A corporation is issued bonds from a bank and it then begins to invest into itself with the banker money. The stocks are issued out,first to the preferred stockholders, and then the general public gets a shot at investing into the stocks, as common stock holders.

A corporation is simply a vehicle, called an artificial person in law, that is used to move finance from one place to the next. The bond holders are the true owners of the corporation and as I said above the bond holders are bankers. It is common knowledge that the global Elite run the world through the practice of banking, which is rooted in lending. The Rothschild family are the money manipulators and masters who control banking in Europe and the Rockafeller’s control banking here in the Corporate U.S. Thus, at the end of the day the entertainment industry is controlled and owned by the bankers, just like every other industry.

Everything that takes place in public is first planned in private through secret societies. This is the way the world has always worked and the music industry is no exception to this. Before a entertainer is given a recording contract they must first be a member of a secret society. A so called X member of the illuminati, who was a music executive in the 70’s spoke about this publically, his name was John Todd. According to Todd, every musician and entertainer in the music industry and Hollywood, has to be a initiated wizard or witch before they are offered a recording contract. This is what some writers have called the selling of the soul or light to Lucifer. In his speeches John Todd further demonstrates that after the record is cut and the master is finished, it is then given to a coven of witches and wizards who conjure up a demon. Once the demon is conjured the witches and wizards ask the entity to attach itself to every copy or duplicate that is sold to the public, which guarantees the success of the record and also takes control of the listener. If you want to research Todd’s work in full I have all of his recorded material on MP3 and would be glad to send it to you. (Email me at 13signsastrology@gmail.com)



The point I am making above is that the music industry is a cult and once one gets a record deal they are now an initiate and are a part of the cult for life. Whitney Houston was no exception to this rule and she took the oath back in the 70’s. Once the oath is pledged you become the property of the record labels and the machines and you can NEVER retire. The only way out of the game is death! If you think I’m lying, please email me with one entertainer who has successfully retired from the industry, never to come back again. There is no way out.

Whitney Houston reached the peak of her career in 1992 when she starred in the film Body Guard, with Kevin Costner. If you notice all of the big entertainers have to do a film when they reach their peak so that they can generate more capital for their masters aka the label. Whitney had a pristine image, for the most part, and this is why many, including myself, respected her. In her music and even in the Body Guard film she played the type of person she was in real life. Little did Whitney know that the people that control the industry love to breakdown the image of pure and clean folks and this is exactly what they set out to do after the Body Guard film. She later starred in Waiting To Exhale and Cinderella, but information began to leak that she was often late for interviews and a no show sometimes. This was around the same time she met and would eventually marry Bobby Brown.


You see, in the music industry nothing happens without the consent of the label and Whitney meeting and marrying Bobby Brown was no different. The life of an entertainer doesn’t stop when the cameras go off, the entertainment spills over into your personal life, because as I said above, when you sign the deal you are now the property of the labels. The labels allowed Whitney to Marry Bobby Brown and if one does any investigation they will see that her life began to go downhill shortly after. Now I’m not blaming Bobby for Whitney’s fall, because he took the oath and made a deal with the goat just like her, so I believe they used Bobby to make Whitney’s life more interesting and to begin to tarnish her image. Like I said the music industry is not for the pure hearted and Whitney was a pure soul indeed! The labels knew what kind of person Bobby was and they knew he would be a good pick for their goals with Whitney. So, the labels began to work rituals based on Bobby and Whitney’s relationship, remember everybody in the game aka the industry plays a part even when the cameras go off.

Whitney Houston stated in her interview with Oprah in 2010 that she was attracted to Bobby because he, “took control of her and their relationship, and she liked that.” In reality Bobby was acting as Whitney’s handler, which is a term used in mind control. A handler is one who is used within a mind control experiment to break another and to get them to do what the controllers of the experiment want, this was Bobby’s role. The labels wanted to spice up Whitney’s life aka destroy her pristine image, which they had been targeting since she got into the industry. You may wonder why they would want to do a thing like this, but if you’re not in the industry then you can’t imagine how diabolical the people are who run the show. These people thrive on drama, sex, violence, and drugs. As they say, sex sales! Entertainers are products of the elite and they are treated as such, they (The Elite) don’t give a shit about human values morals and the likes. The people that are behind the scenes are master witches and wizards and their goals are constant control and power.

Whitney Houston was addicted to cocain and she became infamous for this habit. You have to ask you’re self why was she addicted to cocain, because from a metaphysical point of view, people that use drugs are using them to cover up something. According to her 2010 interview with Oprah, Whitney said, “Bobby would draw eyes all over their home.” Could these be the all seeing eye that depicts Lucifer’s eye within the occult. I already proved above that these people are witches and wizards. She further states that, “Bobby was her drug”, which further proves that she was using the drugs as an escape from her life with Bobby. Whitney wasn’t happy with herself and the way her life was ending up and in the same interview with Oprah she even referred to herself as “the devil.”

According to Bobby Brown’s sister, who would go on drug binges with the couple, “Whitney hallucinates and sees demons when she’s high; she bites and beats herself black-and-blue but blames the devil for the injuries.” Bobby’s sister Tina goes on to say that,  Houston sees ‘demons’ everywhere she goes, and beats herself up while saying “The Devil be hitting me.” Tina claimed that drugs have made Whitney so paranoid she sees evil apparitions and once drilled a spy-hole in her bathroom to look for “demons.” She said: “She’ll point to the floor and say, ‘See that demon. I’m telling you somebody’s messing with Bobby.’ She always thinks it’s something to do with Bobby.” She added: “She breaks everything – mirrors, phones, cabinets, appliances.”Now, ask yourself, what’s really going on within the music industry? Is it just drugs or was Whitney demon possessed? Why are all of these celebs hooked on drugs and why are all of these celebs dying young?



Whitney was of no use to the industry anymore because as many of you know she couldn’t sing the way she use to. The drugs and the demons drained her life force, because Whitney was pure and wasn’t built for demonology. Whitney was sacrificed aka thrown from the freedom train, and done away with a day before the grammy’s as a industry ritual. She was found dead in a bath tub within the hotel of Clive Davis’s pre- Grammy Awards party. This was a ritual, just like every other aspect of Whitney’s life. Whitney was born on August the 9th and died on February 11th. (9-11) 9-11 is a numerical code used by the elite to perform human sacrifice rituals and Whitneys death was no exception. She died a night before the Grammy’s because within the occult one can harness the energy of the deceased to attain the ends of their choice. Whitney’s energy will be used for the awards tonight and this is why the media jumped all over her death before the cause was even discovered. This is a ritual folks.

My last piece of information that I will submit, about the occult connections to the music industry, is Madonna’s performance at the Super Bowl. This performance, by Madonna, was a High priestess ceremony. The costume worn by Madonna speaks volumes as to her rank with the secret society within the music industry. Madonna was interviewed, prior to the Super Bowl, on Anderson Cooper show and she said, “The Superbowl is kind of like the Holy of Holies in America. I’ll come at halfway of the “church experience” and I’m gonna have to deliver a sermon. It’ll have to be very impactful. Don’t take her words for granite, as she is telling you that her performance was a ritual. The Holy of Holies is the name of the most sacred place found within Solomon’s Temple. No one was ever permitted to enter the Holy of Holies but the High Priest. This privilege was only granted on the Day of Atonement, to offer the blood of sacrifice and incense before the mercy seat. Whitney Houston was the Blood sacrifice that was offered on the Sabbath day, or Saturday, exactly 7 days after Madonna’s performance.


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So there you have it folks. The music industry is really a secret society in disguise and it’s much more than music. If you’re considering being an entertainer do your research and know what you’re getting yourself into. Without knowledge of the occult one doesn’t stand a chance of surviving within the music and film industry. If you enjoy your own self expression and individuality then the industry isn’t for you. Once the deal is made your life will be ritualized and controlled forever.

http://occultandmusic.wordpress.com/2012/02/12/whitney-houstons-death-and-the-secret-society-called-the-music-industry/

I've also heard the Whitney suffered Bipolar Disorder, and the drugs brought on Schizoaffective Disorder, of which the delusions can scare someone horribly. Look it up - it takes drugs to control.

Actually, many delusions that people have suffered and blamed others for over the centuries, have been caused by unstable minds: Schizophrenia, BPD, name it. Back then, they'd lock the "loonies" up in Insane Asylums for good.

@paula-c: What is your method of research? Anything other than websites? So - Givenchi designed Madonna's and other's outfits, perhaps the entire Halftime Shebang. Is Givenchi in on the alleged "occult" too? They're a design house, most beloved around the world.

Are you using any occult books for reference? I'd surely think you'd be using the real books, not just the internet, which can self-reference itself. Any translations from the International Museums?

There's no "Secret Society" around the music industry - I've only seen those who don't push themselves, claim that there's always "something," blocking them.

The truth of the matter? Creating music has ALWAYS been inside the artist, themselves! Whether they say they're channeling a higher power,
or sitting on couches and strumming, humming - inside a fullblown studio, it doesn't matter!


The real effort comes into touring, to pick up fans: how many dives are you willing to play in, before you go from the smaller venues, to the larger ones?
How are you promoting yourself? Those who've done well for themselves, you will see a pattern: they don't party all night, before they play the next night. They get sleep, they eat, etc.

THEY WORK THEIR BUTTS OFF! That's the real secret!








Do that which is my method of research?, internet of course, and what is your method?, all good or bad investigations in this forum are of the internet, there there is much good or bad information, so you have to read much, you hear a rumor that she was probably bipolar, where to read it in any media or it told it you personally?, I also read many times that she used crack, but that does not mean that I created everything what is said in the media.
I am not interested if there are people that not agree with what I think of the industry of music and cinema, am not here to convince anyone of what I think.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: MaryK on February 14, 2012, 07:48:21 AM
Sounds familiar....oh come on not again :? :shock:
And again.....reference to Michael.......

Whitney Houston Family Divided Over Burial
(http://ll-media.tmz.com/2012/02/13/0213-dion-warmack-cissy-houston-getty-ex-1.jpg)

http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/14/whitney-houston-burial-new-jersey-newark-atlanta/#.Tzpeq1EzKSo (http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/14/whitney-houston-burial-new-jersey-newark-atlanta/#.Tzpeq1EzKSo)

There is a rift in Whitney Houston's family over where she should be laid to restThere's a rift in Whitney Houston's family over where she should be laid to rest ... TMZ has learned.

Family sources tell us ... Dionne Warwick, Whitney's cousin, and Cissy Houston, Whitney's mom, both want the burial to take place in Atlanta. They believe Atlanta is the place Whitney enjoyed the most and had the fondest memories.

But the rest of the family wants Whitney buried in Newark -- where she was born, and subsequently discovered at a local Baptist church (below).



We're told Cissy's position is succinct:  "Michael Jackson did not want to be buried in New Jersey, and Whitney did not want to  be buried in New Jersey."

We're told Cissy and Dionne caved, after other family members convinced them New Jersey is where the world will remember her most.

It's unclear why they think the world will remember Whitney more in Newark than ATL.

No offense New Jersey.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: fordtocarr on February 14, 2012, 08:00:30 AM
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Sounds familiar....oh come on not again :? :shock:
And again.....reference to Michael.......

Whitney Houston Family Divided Over Burial
(http://ll-media.tmz.com/2012/02/13/0213-dion-warmack-cissy-houston-getty-ex-1.jpg)

http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/14/whitney-houston-burial-new-jersey-newark-atlanta/#.Tzpeq1EzKSo (http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/14/whitney-houston-burial-new-jersey-newark-atlanta/#.Tzpeq1EzKSo)

There is a rift in Whitney Houston's family over where she should be laid to restThere's a rift in Whitney Houston's family over where she should be laid to rest ... TMZ has learned.

Family sources tell us ... Dionne Warwick, Whitney's cousin, and Cissy Houston, Whitney's mom, both want the burial to take place in Atlanta. They believe Atlanta is the place Whitney enjoyed the most and had the fondest memories.

But the rest of the family wants Whitney buried in Newark -- where she was born, and subsequently discovered at a local Baptist church (below).



We're told Cissy's position is succinct:  "Michael Jackson did not want to be buried in New Jersey, and Whitney did not want to  be buried in New Jersey."

THIS statement makes NO sense!!!!  Why on earth would Whitney's Mom say Michael didn't want to be buried in NJ???????  He wasn't FROM there???  WHY draw the comparison?  I'm sure it was never an option!  That is a CRAZY remark and DOES make me wonder now about some things.

We're told Cissy and Dionne caved, after other family members convinced them New Jersey is where the world will remember her most.

It's unclear why they think the world will remember Whitney more in Newark than ATL.

No offense New Jersey.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: MaryK on February 14, 2012, 08:13:27 AM
Yes absolutely right @fordtocarr.
How would she know about that anyway?
Just strange.....

Only New Jersey connection that I can think of at the moment is the Cascio family.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Grace on February 14, 2012, 08:23:07 AM
Here's a video suggesting the body arrived in New Jersey (scroll down).
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2100634/Whitney-Houston-news-Medics-facing-probe-pills-killed-star.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2100634/Whitney-Houston-news-Medics-facing-probe-pills-killed-star.html)
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: MichaelsAngel on February 14, 2012, 11:20:45 AM
I agree Fordtocarr....it doesn't make sense that she would say that
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: RK on February 14, 2012, 11:42:53 AM
(http://worldtruth.tv/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/417994_372273609466796_100000524791925_1373873_1175124079_n-650x4121.jpg)

During the pre-grammie party hosted by Clive Davis, they held a minute silence while this picture of Whitney was on the screen. Her body was still above on the 4th floor at the time.
I think the picture was carefully chosen and speaks volumes. 
 
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Tink on February 14, 2012, 11:49:55 AM
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Sounds familiar....oh come on not again :? :shock:
And again.....reference to Michael.......

Whitney Houston Family Divided Over Burial
(http://ll-media.tmz.com/2012/02/13/0213-dion-warmack-cissy-houston-getty-ex-1.jpg)

http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/14/whitney-houston-burial-new-jersey-newark-atlanta/#.Tzpeq1EzKSo (http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/14/whitney-houston-burial-new-jersey-newark-atlanta/#.Tzpeq1EzKSo)

There is a rift in Whitney Houston's family over where she should be laid to restThere's a rift in Whitney Houston's family over where she should be laid to rest ... TMZ has learned.

Family sources tell us ... Dionne Warwick, Whitney's cousin, and Cissy Houston, Whitney's mom, both want the burial to take place in Atlanta. They believe Atlanta is the place Whitney enjoyed the most and had the fondest memories.

But the rest of the family wants Whitney buried in Newark -- where she was born, and subsequently discovered at a local Baptist church (below).



We're told Cissy's position is succinct:  "Michael Jackson did not want to be buried in New Jersey, and Whitney did not want to  be buried in New Jersey."

THIS statement makes NO sense!!!!  Why on earth would Whitney's Mom say Michael didn't want to be buried in NJ???????  He wasn't FROM there???  WHY draw the comparison?  I'm sure it was never an option!  That is a CRAZY remark and DOES make me wonder now about some things.

We're told Cissy and Dionne caved, after other family members convinced them New Jersey is where the world will remember her most.

It's unclear why they think the world will remember Whitney more in Newark than ATL.

No offense New Jersey.

That's the point, actually: neither technically got their wish (I believe the Jackson's purchased 12 plots for themselves; this is so all the siblings can be interred together, along with their parents).

This whole thing with WH, has just been making me remember my daddy's death, and wishes - and I wish I could hold my daddy one more time, even down to being put into the ER.

Unfortunately, do know what Bobbi's going through...as daddy died in my arms, even though I was a few years older.




Several of my first cousins and I, are in charge of the family plots and Mausoleum out here, yet I had to cave on my father's final resting place myself...I desperately wanted to bury him here, where we have several plots, where he loved to live! I order the flowers, visit monthly, etc. But daddy didn't die here. Unless you use a private jet, you have to jump through so many hoops, it's insane, all due to fear of dead bodies. :'( You have to use a temporary casket, certified by the airlines. It wasn't lack of money...they threw a huge fit.


Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: applehead250609 on February 14, 2012, 12:25:21 PM
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Grace
Reply #230 on: Today at 12:33:40 AM »
I think we have all reason to remember her beauty and how much love she brought into our lives.

I think you are 100 % rigth, thank you Grace  bearhug !!!
Until now from all the stars Whoopi Goldberg was the most respectful to Whitney passing and she said it best," even though we all know some of what Whitney went through we need to respect Whitney's daughter"  /bravo/ . Even with all her flaws (we all have them) Whitney's daughter seemed to love her without any judgment  :'( .


Hot Topics-Remembering Whitney Houston - The View
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-ky3MfujRk[/youtube]


Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: paula-c on February 14, 2012, 12:32:46 PM
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Sounds familiar....oh come on not again :? :shock:
And again.....reference to Michael.......

Whitney Houston Family Divided Over Burial
(http://ll-media.tmz.com/2012/02/13/0213-dion-warmack-cissy-houston-getty-ex-1.jpg)

http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/14/whitney-houston-burial-new-jersey-newark-atlanta/#.Tzpeq1EzKSo (http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/14/whitney-houston-burial-new-jersey-newark-atlanta/#.Tzpeq1EzKSo)

There is a rift in Whitney Houston's family over where she should be laid to restThere's a rift in Whitney Houston's family over where she should be laid to rest ... TMZ has learned.

Family sources tell us ... Dionne Warwick, Whitney's cousin, and Cissy Houston, Whitney's mom, both want the burial to take place in Atlanta. They believe Atlanta is the place Whitney enjoyed the most and had the fondest memories.

But the rest of the family wants Whitney buried in Newark -- where she was born, and subsequently discovered at a local Baptist church (below).



We're told Cissy's position is succinct:  "Michael Jackson did not want to be buried in New Jersey, and Whitney did not want to  be buried in New Jersey."

We're told Cissy and Dionne caved, after other family members convinced them New Jersey is where the world will remember her most.

It's unclear why they think the world will remember Whitney more in Newark than ATL.

No offense New Jersey.



I do not is that this playing TMZ with all this,..Maybe Michael attend this funeral.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: applehead250609 on February 14, 2012, 01:12:15 PM
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blankie
Reply #254 on: February 14, 2012, 04:25:37 AM »
Sweet  :cry: she speaks about Michael..  bearhug

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAMNo38EeFo&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]

OMG Blankie what have you done to me  :'( :'(  :'( :'( , yes she tried ,God knows that she tried ,all she needed from people was LOVE and RESPECT,exactly what Michael needed also :( !!!
Thank you for sharing this video  bearhug !!!
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: mindseye on February 14, 2012, 01:31:18 PM
Thx blankie for sharing that video :cry:
I just watched Lenny's video message..."We all struggle, but...Why does it take death for us to appreciate folks? one day we're talking shit, next day they're the greatest thing that ever lived...which is it?"
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQaTUg1JSw8[/youtube]
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: applehead250609 on February 14, 2012, 01:33:28 PM
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Tink
« Reply #266 on: February 14, 2012, 05:46:04 AM »
They deemed it not murder, btw.

Natural causes, or side affects of addiction is all we're left with.
My friend who suffered high blood pressure and smoked cigarettes? They said the bath water was much too HOT, and killed her instantly...there could be a similarity here.

And if you think this is a hoax, I want you to WATCH this video: http://www.cnn.com/video/?hpt=hp_c3#/video/bestoftv/2012/02/13/nr-whitney-houston-burrell.cnn

THOSE are tears of real grief, of losing a friend! Whitney is definitely DEAD, people - no doubt about it. No one's holding back; no smiles.

Here's another video, of a friend HIDING Whitney's ADDICTION: http://www.cnn.com/video/?hpt=hp_c3#/video/us/2012/02/13/point-kelly-price-houston-last-performance.cnn

When dealing with Addicts, you can't ever give them any Champagne again; no beer; no alcohol, ever again! It's like putting bullets in the chamber of a gun, and putting it against your head, and playing Russian Roulette! Full-blown addiction is when there's only one empty chamber.

Addiction, you need your friends to slap your friends up side your head!
Kelly messed up, man - she messed up...Whitney did NOT have a naturally raspy voice at all; the people around the person who's addicted, enabled her!!

This has nothing to do with Michael whatsoever. I'm completely disgusted and floored, that so many of you are trying to tie the two together - and call her death a hoax!  :(

LOOK at her loved one ones truly grieving!! Even Bobby Brown wigged out, at his concert
http://www.cnn.com/video/?hpt=hp_c3#/video/ireports/2012/02/12/nr-levs-brown-breakdown.cnn

Real life isn't tidy; death is messy and disgusting. After attending the Pre-Grammy parties, I'm 1000% sure, Whitney Houston is DEAD.

Yes Whitney is dead unfortunately ,this is what I think too  :( .And talking about Bobby Brown ,today I heard a interview with one of Whitney's friend who knows her,even before she was married .Her name is Jennifer Holiday and she told Piers Morgan that unfortunately she started to take drugs before she meet Bobby  :( .She said this because she was asked by Piers.Majority of people blame Bobby Brown for her downfall and he was curious to know the truth.Well "the truth" was very,very painfull cause it's almost the same with what TINK already told us.Please listen to her and you will all understand what is like to be in that stupid bussiness  >:( .Bobby and Whitney loved each other, but love isn't enough to make a marriage work.They both had very serious problems with drugs and I'm glad they had enough sense to walk away from the marriage alive. They had dinner together three days before Whitney died  :( .

http://edition.cnn.com/video/?/video/bestoftv/2012/02/14/piers-morgan-jennifer-holiday-whitney-houston-drugs.cnn&hpt=pm_r1 (http://edition.cnn.com/video/?/video/bestoftv/2012/02/14/piers-morgan-jennifer-holiday-whitney-houston-drugs.cnn&hpt=pm_r1)
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 14, 2012, 01:49:48 PM
I don't know if these videos have already been posted , I thought I'd share these with you ;)

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZOSp4Mx2qg&feature=g-all-u&context=G214ecb2FAAAAAeAABAA[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqxsuTK3A8U&feature=g-all-u&context=G245045bFAAAAAeAAAAA[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpxU2k12CCw[/youtube]
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: paula-c on February 14, 2012, 02:03:58 PM
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(http://worldtruth.tv/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/417994_372273609466796_100000524791925_1373873_1175124079_n-650x4121.jpg)

During the pre-grammie party hosted by Clive Davis, they held a minute silence while this picture of Whitney was on the screen. Her body was still above on the 4th floor at the time.
I think the picture was carefully chosen and speaks volumes. 
 





I agree RK
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: blankie on February 14, 2012, 02:23:30 PM
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Grace
Reply #230 on: Today at 12:33:40 AM »
I think we have all reason to remember her beauty and how much love she brought into our lives.

I think you are 100 % rigth, thank you Grace  bearhug !!!





Until now from all the stars Whoopi Goldberg was the most respectful to Whitney passing and she said it best," even though we all know some of what Whitney went through we need to respect Whitney's daughter"  /bravo/ . Even with all her flaws (we all have them) Whitney's daughter seemed to love her without any judgment  :'( .


Hot Topics-Remembering Whitney Houston - The View
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-ky3MfujRk[/youtube]





I agree totally with you !!!!  bearhug


                                              moonwalk_/ L.O.V.E. only  L.O.V.E.     moonwalk_/
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: applehead250609 on February 14, 2012, 02:28:38 PM
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BeTheChange
Reply #289 on: February 14, 2012, 11:46:50 AM »

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXUqdcUPpRE&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]

BeTheChange thatk you very much for this video  bearhug ,wow it was wonderful to hear Whithey talk about so many different things .I agree 100% with what she said about music:"Music doesen't change,people change music "  /bravo/ !!!
The last part where she spoke about how she started singing,about her mother ,her fans and her daughter made me cry  :'( .She was/is special indeed ,thank you Whitney for the LOVE you gave us true your music  respect/ !!!
Her last oficial interview was last year in december 12.She looked so good OMG ,like in her beginings  :) ,and also so happy.I think she spoke about a new role in a movie with Jordin Sparks.She even gave HUGS on the set,OMG just like Michael used to do with people around him  :'( .


Whitney Houston on Access Hollywood Interview 12 dec 2011
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xj06OEBNJZU[/youtube]
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Tink on February 14, 2012, 02:55:45 PM
@Paula - If you'd like to dissect research on another thread, that would be great. I often use hard to find books - translations from museum books.

On this thread, as I'm concerned, we've lost someone who struggled with Addiction, but was reaching an age where she could finally cope with it. I have to wonder how much her "good friend" was helping, if she allowed Whitney to even drink!   :(
Stupid accidents are - stupid accidents. Most horrifying, when they cost someone their life.  :'(

Rest in Peace, lovely angel, Whitney. May you sing better than ever!!
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: applehead250609 on February 14, 2012, 03:02:37 PM
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RK
« Reply #283 on: February 14, 2012, 09:36:34 AM »
@Paula...thankyou for posting this article. Something here is way off. The dates, Clive Davis' party happening downstairs while Whitney's body lies 4 floor above. How brazen and in your face are these people becoming. Or are they convinced that it's only conspiracy 'nutters' who will see and talk about this while others go along with the reasoning that Whitney was in bad shape and it was inevitable [albeit the day before the grammies coincidently   :?]

I think that was very disrespectful to Whitney too  :x .That party was a real insanity just like,Chaka Khan told Piers Morgan recently.Really, that was a HUGE error by Clive Davis,even if he loved her  :( .I'm starting to believe this people knows something but they are not willing to tell the truth ,and MEDIA is not heplong either  >:( .
Did someone knew that Chaka was an addict also ,OMG  :shock: ???? Is anybody there at Hollywood who didn't use drugs???? This is scary   afraid/ !!!!


Khan: Clive Davis party was 'insanity'
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AaJjsJi1f0&feature=g-u-u&context=G27c573dFUAAAAHgAKAA[/youtube]

Chaka Khan on Whitney in LA too early
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oup7yOxUuIo&feature=g-u-u&context=G2e18e92FUAAAAHgAMAA[/youtube]
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: applehead250609 on February 14, 2012, 03:12:27 PM
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Thx blankie for sharing that video :cry:
I just watched Lenny's video message..."We all struggle, but...Why does it take death for us to appreciate folks? one day we're talking shit, next day they're the greatest thing that ever lived...which is it?"
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQaTUg1JSw8[/youtube]

Thank you very much  bearhug  ,I saw Lenny's tribute yesterday,very nice from his part  :'( !!!!!
Lenny was right about everything he said. That's why I despise these public deaths - cuz it gives people the convenient opportunity to be emotional. One day they talk all sorts of shit for said person, then he/she dies and they go 180 in everything they say. It's complete bullcrap and I'm ashamed of today's public. This shit happens all the time. It happened with MJ, now Whitney, who knows who's next  :( . What I do know is the hypocrites are once again gonna go the same way. Beautiful tribute Lenny  respect/ .
R.I.P. dear Whitney,you will be missed  :'(  !!!
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: diggyon on February 14, 2012, 03:26:15 PM
@ Mr. Hatman!!!!!!

please, we want to see you at the funeral!!!!! You are urgently needed!!  Otherwise we will think that Whitney is really dead!!!
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Magic_Love_4U on February 14, 2012, 03:39:15 PM
Some people just don't want to do the research.
Many celebrities have spoken about it but not used that name (illuminati), freemasonry, masons and these smaller societies are facts.
Michael Jackson was a part of it.
I am chocked over those who are Jackson fans that still don't see and believe it when MJ himself has spoken out about it, his daughter and the family.

Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: fordtocarr on February 14, 2012, 04:11:15 PM
I guess that statement TMZ printed about Michael not wanting to be buried in NJ, was suppose to say NEVERLAND.  Michael didn't want to be buried in Neverland.  TMZ live is comparing Whitney's funeral plans, will etc, with Michael's.  Of course...
They also said Sony jacked up the price of Whitney's music 50% right after death.  Then said it was a mistake, that "someone" accidentally jacked it up and it was not suppose to be done.
Harvey said it was a fictitious person.

OH, also, I'm wondering, while making comparisons, why Paul McCartney, went to the hotel where Whitney died, and paid respects, and yet, there was no reporting of him doing so for Michael, or going to the memorial or funeral, even though Paul claims to not be mad/peturbed with Michael over the Beatles catalog.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: blankie on February 14, 2012, 04:15:14 PM
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Thx blankie for sharing that video :cry:
I just watched Lenny's video message..."We all struggle, but...Why does it take death for us to appreciate folks? one day we're talking shit, next day they're the greatest thing that ever lived...which is it?"
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQaTUg1JSw8[/youtube]


Thank you very much  bearhug  ,I saw Lenny's tribute yesterday,very nice from his part  :'( !!!!!
Lenny was right about everything he said. That's why I despise these public deaths - cuz it gives people the convenient opportunity to be emotional. One day they talk all sorts of shit for said person, then he/she dies and they go 180 in everything they say. It's complete bullcrap and I'm ashamed of today's public. This shit happens all the time. It happened with MJ, now Whitney, who knows who's next  :( . What I do know is the hypocrites are once again gonna go the same way. Beautiful tribute Lenny  respect/ .
R.I.P. dear Whitney,you will be missed  :'(  !!!


Is beautiful, very beautiful    :cry: :cry: :cry:........ I agree dear Mindseye & Apple.  bearhug

Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: applehead250609 on February 14, 2012, 04:54:10 PM
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Grace
« Reply #305 on: February 14, 2012, 10:23:07 PM »
Here's a video suggesting the body arrived in New Jersey (scroll down).
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2100634/Whitney-Houston-news-Medics-facing-probe-pills-killed-star.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2100634/Whitney-Houston-news-Medics-facing-probe-pills-killed-star.html)

Thanks for this link Grace  bearhug .

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/02/14/article-2100634-11BACCDA000005DC-953_634x408.jpg)

Wow people are already selling t-shitrs,disgusting  :( .Who would buy them? People need to give this family time,and a law need to be passedo ut. People should not be allowed to post pics. of body bags and the tub. Who the F would want to see that ? I'm telling you all, people have no shame at all  :( . Do they think of Whitney's daughter or mother? I would not say F the world. But  I have a feeling 2012, people better get on their knees and pray to God.

It feels like I've been in the twilight zone for the past few days. It seems so unreal that she's gone  :'( .

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/02/14/article-2100634-11BAC61B000005DC-73_306x450.jpg)

The weariness in her face  :( ~ a parent should never have to bury their child  :'( . Her mom should be able to say goodbye and bury her baby in peace and privacy,I think.
From my point of view I really hope there will be NO public Memorial  ,cause I had enought with Michael  :-\  :( .Whitney belogs to her family now.She gave enough of herself and she should be able to be laid to rest in peace. Whitney has had most of her life on display and ultimately she belonged to God and she has been returned to him.


Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: MaryK on February 14, 2012, 05:05:26 PM
@applehead: TMZ reported today that her family asked the city of Newark to cancel their plans for a public memorial.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: applehead250609 on February 14, 2012, 05:11:47 PM
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@applehead: TMZ reported today that her family asked the city of Newark to cancel their plans for a public memorial.


Thank's for the update Mary  bearhug ,but I have to admit that I really don't trust TMZ ,cause they are very "Greasy" lol  lolol/  !!!!
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: LoveShyMichael on February 14, 2012, 05:25:06 PM
@applehead

I think there's nothing wrong with selling t-shirts right away. That is a tribute to that artist. When Michael "died" I made my own shirts up, & looked on E-bay right away. I wanted to show my support as a Michael Jackson Fan. I see nothing wrong with showing the world that Whitney was a beautiful artist, makes people remind others of how special she is by wearing her on your shirt. Just like NFL, NBA, etc....your support is genuine.


Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: MaryK on February 14, 2012, 05:30:57 PM
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@applehead: TMZ reported today that her family asked the city of Newark to cancel their plans for a public memorial.


Thank's for the update Mary  bearhug ,but I have to admit that I really don't trust TMZ ,cause they are very "Greasy" lol  lolol/  !!!!
You´re welcome  ;)
Let´s hope for the best!
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: LoveShyMichael on February 14, 2012, 05:37:03 PM
As for the prescriptions pads RX. No, I have to disagree with them being locked up. I have 2 of them sitting right in front of me. I decided not to get them filled, they we're my Adderalls. (amphetimine) There's no RX in the corners. There's no batch numbers. Matter of fact, my doctor had even messed up on dosage, & all he did is go back to his printer, where all others are printed on the same exact  paper, & give me 2 more. There is a 2 limit, one dispensing -now, & 1 for future dispensing. But that's it. Matter of fact, when one pharmacy didn't have enough of the 20mg, they just dispensed 10mg. Something that should't have been done.

There has been at least 3x my prescription was shorted. & count was even off by pharmacy for what they had on shelf & what was dispensed.

Who knows who pocketed those at the pharmacy.

They are required to double count.

But what really got me, is that, MY DOCTOR, THE THERAPIST, & PHARMACIST ALL KNEW MY DOSAGE WAS POTENTIAL OVERDOSE & SAID NOTHING!!

All "man-made diseases" like bi-polar DO NOT require sythentic pills. Our body is not designed to filter sythentic chemicals....period.!

Our bodies need natural foods, vitamins & minerals.
With fake toxic chemicals, are you suprised cancer has exploded?


The doctors that have your best health in mind, won't write prescriptions, matter of fact the ones who actually believe in natural health, are actually leaving their BIG PHARMA facilities because they handle the lies & what thier doing to their patients.

Those are the kind of doctors WE NEED!
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: empyreal on February 14, 2012, 05:44:40 PM
Quote

All "man-made diseases" like bi-polar DO NOT require sythentic pills. Our body is not designed to filter sythentic chemicals....period.!

Our bodies need natural foods, vitamins & minerals.
With fake toxic chemicals, are you suprised cancer has exploded?


The doctors that have your best health in mind, won't write prescriptions, matter of fact the ones who actually believe in natural health, are actually leaving their BIG PHARMA facilities because they handle the lies & what thier doing to their patients.

Those are the kind of doctors WE NEED!


YES, YES AND YES!
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: hesouttamylife on February 14, 2012, 06:09:12 PM
 :cry: this is just sad all around.  I loved how Whitney always stood up for Michael no matter who the opponent, and he never put her down for any of her faults.  That’s what I’d call a real friendship.  Sometimes i wish that all of these deaths were just hoaxes and that these artist are gathered together some where trying to wait out the madness.  Calling all angels.  It seems that when they are at their lowest points is when they are discarded by the industry.  They do nothing to help them because that would be to work against the last stand, lining their pockets in gold.  But wouldn’t it be a kick in their pants if Michael Jackson had a plan, just using good business.  And when it was all over, they would come out on top.  Only in a perfect world   :|  I don’t know what to think about this death.  Whitney had a good heart, but good hearts obviously don’t cut it anymore. 

Rest in peace Whitney Houston.  I will always love you.

Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: fordtocarr on February 14, 2012, 06:12:22 PM
LONG article...more comparisons to Michael...

http://news.yahoo.com/whitney-houston-estate-gain-questions-remain-223810535.html
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: teine21 on February 14, 2012, 06:24:00 PM
http://vigilantcitizen.com/latestnews/what-happened-to-whitney-houston/

I usually am skeptical as far as Illuminati goes although many people such as MJ have spoken out against them, but this site has some very good points. After Madonna's ritualistic performance at the super bowl 6 days before Whitney passing, Adele's change of personality at the grammy's and being called "Queen of the Night" at the grammy's (title of a Whitney song and Whitney has been referred to as Queen of Pop), Nicki's sick exorcism/sacrifice performance at the grammy's, Clive Davis parading Jennifer Hudson around as potentially the next Whitney just a day before Whitney's death, him resurrecting the famous duet between Monica and Brandy, the lack of sadness at the grammy's in regard to Whitney and half ass tribute, Whitney saying in 2002 that she didn't enjoy singing anymore because of how the industry is run now, and stating that 10 years from that point she saw herself retired watching her daughter grow up as a woman of God, Chaka Khan calling the music industry demonic and saying that people sacrifice their lives, Whitney wanting to go back to singing what she calls "the truth" Gospel music, her wanting to bring LOVE back into music and last but not least Clive Davis' pre-grammy party still being held in the very hotel Whitney's dead body was laying in just a few floors above them and just hours after her death all makes me think there's something more behind her death just like MJ's....
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: teine21 on February 14, 2012, 06:27:49 PM
Sorry, I don't think MJ's gone. I phrased that last sentence wrong. I meant that there was more going on behind the scenes and the same way they wanted to get rid of him is the same in the case of Whitney. I don't buy the drug story one bit when it comes to Whitney. She looked great and the way they're trying hard to push her being an addict even showing pictures of her sweaty at a PARTY in a CLUB to try to prove their theory is very reminiscent of what they tried to do to MJ.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: teine21 on February 14, 2012, 06:52:50 PM
I'm very worried about Mariah Carey now. She has a new "handler/husband" to replace the one she "broke free" from (Tommy). And with the new so called "divas" being discovered and groomed, ie. Jennifer Hudson, Beyonce, Melanie Amaro, Leona Lewis, Adele, Brandy, Monica....figures they'd need to get the greatest singers/entertainers out of the way - Michael, Whitney, Mariah.....just saying. :(
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: starlight30 on February 14, 2012, 07:32:06 PM
TMZ has obtained a photo of the tub in which Whitney Houston died.

The photo was taken moments after police and EMTs removed Whitney's body from the bathroom of the Beverly Hilton Hotel.

The photo shows the tub still filled with water.  There's a gravy dish at the bottom of the tub, which Whitney typically filled with olive oil to keep her skin soft.

Notice the two circular objects -- they're hair ties. Source TMZ.com

Is this article from TMZ posted already? I read some pages but not all. Plus the up and down goes slow for me since the site changed awhile back. I don't know why.
TMZ posted a Death Tub - why and how they obtained this??? I found it weird. Showing this for what reason? A gravy dish, oil and pointing out hair ties. It reminded me of annointing oil and two things tied together. I thought water and oil don't mix, it rises to the top. The other thing they mentioned Midol for menstraul cramps. Ladies shower during these times. The other article ordering 2 meals and showing one in the bathroom??? The Micky Fine and leaving a medical bldg 433. Articles about where to bury her GA or NJ like MJ. All perplexing. Is Mickey Fine the only game in town no CVS, Walgreens, Rite Aid or Duane Reade. It doesn't make sense.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: LoveShyMichael on February 14, 2012, 08:23:24 PM
I so wanted to believe that Whitney's death was a hoax. But I really feel she did die. I know some "clues" might be confusing, but there happens to be toooo many people involved with Whitney's that are actually genuine grieving. I wished it wasn't true, but BIG PHARMA claimed another victim. This CANNOT be sugarcoated. We need to take control of our lives, & find other ways besides synthetic drugs. Our bodies are our temples, we need to treat them that way.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: LoveShyMichael on February 14, 2012, 08:32:19 PM
Timeline of celebrities killed by Big Pharma: Whitney Houston, Michael Jackson, Heath Ledger, Farrah Fawcett, Elvis and more
Tuesday, February 14, 2012 by: Ethan A. Huff, staff writer


(NaturalNews) The recent death of pop icon Whitney Houston has once again sparked worldwide awareness of the fragility of human life, and how easily it can slip away in an instant. But what Houston's death has also brought to the forefront is the reality that, under the auspices of treating disease, FDA-approved pharmaceutical drugs are a primary cause of death in the U.S., as well as within the entertainment industry.

Over the years, NaturalNews has covered the deaths of numerous celebrities, singers, actors, and cultural icons that met their fates because of prescription drug overdoses. Some of these individuals died as a result of misusing pharmaceutical drugs, while others were literally out of their minds as a result of taking them, which made them particularly prone to the careless and even suicidal behaviors that ultimately led to their deaths.

Below we have put together a short timeline of celebrity deaths caused by pharmaceutical drugs. While we recognize that some of these individuals deliberately misused both prescription and illicit drugs, resulting in their deaths, some of them were arguably heavily influenced by these highly-addictive drugs in the first place, which caused them to further abuse dangerous, but legal, prescription drugs, and often under the guidance of their doctors.

• 1962: American actress, singer, and model Marilyn Monroe reportedly died of a barbiturate overdose, a class of drugs that artificially induces relaxation and sleep. Though the precise details of her death are still disputed, her death was officially declared to be "acute barbiturate poisoning."

• 1968: Famous American actor Nick Adams, a good friend of James Dean and Elvis Presley, reportedly died of an overdose of barbiturates as well. His mysterious death was officially certified as "accidental-suicidal and undetermined," but high levels of sedatives were found in his blood.

• 1977: Iconic singer Elvis Presley had a long history of prescription drug abuse, having developed an addiction to stimulants during his days in the military. His personal physician, Dr. George Nichopoulos, reportedly supplied pills to Presley during his singing career "without concern for his health," which eventually led to his overdose-induced death.

• 1994: Kurt Cobain, former lead singer and guitarist of the band Nirvana, reportedly died of a self-inflicted shotgun wound to the head that many reports link to a lethal dose of heroin. Like many of the others, Cobain had a history of illicit drug abuse, but upon his death, reports indicated that traces of diazepam, an anti-anxiety medication marketed under the name Valium, was also found in his blood.

• 1997: Famous comedian and actor Chris Farley was found dead in his apartment of an apparent drug overdose. But according to some reports, no illegal narcotics were found on the premesis, while plenty of prescription drugs were found. A later autopsy revealed morphine and cocaine intoxication as the cause of his "accidental" death.

• 2007: Anna Nicole Smith, an American model, actress, and television personality died of an overdose of prescription drugs. There is still much controversy over her doctors' involvement in her death, as they reportedly wrote her fake prescriptions for sleeping pills, opioid painkillers, and anti-anxiety drugs, all of which contributed to her death.

• 2008: Actor Heath Ledger was killed by taking a cocktail of pharmaceuticals prescribed him by his doctors. These included OxyContin, Valium, Xanax, Restoril, Unisom, and Vicodin.

• 2009: American actress and artist Farrah Fawcett died as a result of prescribed chemotherapy treatments for her cancer. This treatment, which was prescribed for her anal cancer, actually caused more cancer, which ultimately destroyed her immune system and killed her.

• 2009: Michael Jackson, the "King of Pop," died after being given an injection of Demerol, a highly-potent opioid drug, by his doctor. Though prescription drugs eventually killed him, Jackson may have been deliberately drug induced by his "handlers" for quite some time throughout his career as a way to maximize corporate profits.

• 2011: Singer Amy Winehouse reportedly died of alcohol poisoning, but some reports say that she may have also been taking prescription drugs. Though no "illegal substances" were found in her body at the time of death, official reports appear to omit the actual cause of her death, which strongly points to prescription drugs as a culprit in addition to alcohol.

• 2012: Though the mainstream media is silent on the subject, some reports are now indicating that Whitney Houston's death was actually caused by prescription drugs and alcohol, not drowning. According to reports, a deadly combination of Lorazepam, Valium, Xanax, and sleeping medications killed Houston before she sunk underneath the water in her bathtub.

This is not an exhaustive list of celebrity deaths, of course, and some of these cases are still disputed as to the actual causes of death. But one thing is for sure: FDA-approved prescription drugs, many of which are highly-addictive, are a primary cause of mortality in America today, and yet they continue to flood the market unabated.



Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/034967_celebrities_pharmaceuticals_timeline.html#ixzz1mPiBraNU
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Grace on February 14, 2012, 11:51:48 PM
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Later this year, the singer will appear in the film, "Sparkle," in which she plays a mother concerned about the influence of fame and drugs on her three daughters, who form a singing group.
Houston sings a gospel song on camera and a duet with co-star Jordin Sparks over the credits in the film, which began shooting in October. The movie and a soundtrack are set for wide release in August through Sony Corp.'s TriStar Pictures.
"She was on top of her game," said executive producer Howard Rosenman, who saw a rough cut of the movie on Friday, a day before the singer's death. "She was really coming back."

http://news.yahoo.com/whitney-houston-estate-gain-questions-remain-223810535.html (http://news.yahoo.com/whitney-houston-estate-gain-questions-remain-223810535.html)
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: ilovemjforever on February 15, 2012, 12:09:28 AM
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Sorry, I don't think MJ's gone. I phrased that last sentence wrong. I meant that there was more going on behind the scenes and the same way they wanted to get rid of him is the same in the case of Whitney. I don't buy the drug story one bit when it comes to Whitney. She looked great and the way they're trying hard to push her being an addict even showing pictures of her sweaty at a PARTY in a CLUB to try to prove their theory is very reminiscent of what they tried to do to MJ.
Sadly this is what the media does,they seem to know already that drugs were involved in her death,before the autopsy report is finalized.Hmm,it makes you wonder,what is their agenda.I think i already  know the results,and she was no longer an addict.I can not stand to see these puppets talk about her so negatively,but i know the truth,so they cant fool me with their illusions anymore.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Shamone Jackson on February 15, 2012, 12:11:05 AM
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Yes Whitney is dead unfortunately ,this is what I think too  :( .And talking about Bobby Brown ,today I heard a interview with one of Whitney's friend who knows her,even before she was married .Her name is Jennifer Holiday and she told Piers Morgan that unfortunately she started to take drugs before she meet Bobby  :( .She said this because she was asked by Piers.Majority of people blame Bobby Brown for her downfall and he was curious to know the truth.Well "the truth" was very,very painfull cause it's almost the same with what TINK already told us.Please listen to her and you will all understand what is like to be in that stupid bussiness  >:( .Bobby and Whitney loved each other, but love isn't enough to make a marriage work.They both had very serious problems with drugs and I'm glad they had enough sense to walk away from the marriage alive. They had dinner together three days before Whitney died  :( .



Thanks for posting.  I didn't know Whitney and Jennifer Holiday were friends.  In case some of you don't know who Jennifer Holiday is...she is the one that originally sang "And I'm Telling You" (Dreamgirls) on Broadway which was later sung by Jennifer Hudson.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: ~Souza~ on February 15, 2012, 05:35:46 AM
WHITNEY HOUSTON
Had Premonition About Death

2/15/2012 1:00 AM PST BY TMZ STAFF

(http://ll-media.tmz.com/2012/02/14/0214-whitney-singing-ex-023.jpg)

Whitney Houston told friends she "really wanted to see Jesus" in the days before her death ... and claimed she had a feeling the end was near for her ... this according to several of Whitney's friends.

TMZ has learned ... Whitney had been very spiritual in her final days ... quoting the bible, singing hymns and engaging in intense conversations about Jesus Christ and the afterlife with her close friends and family members.

We're told .... on Friday , one day after she performed, "Yes Jesus Loves Me" at Tru nightclub in Hollywood, Whitney told one of her friends, "I'm gonna go see Jesus ... I want to see Jesus."

The next morning, hours before her death, Whitney was discussing a bible passage involving John the Baptist and Jesus ... when Houston flashed a big smile and remarked, "You know, he's so cool ... I really want to see that Jesus."

Another source tells us ... Whitney had been telling friends she "felt like her time was coming" ... and wanted to make sure she spent her time praising her lord and savior whenever she could.

Unfortunately, Whitney's premonition came true.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: paula-c on February 15, 2012, 08:59:46 AM
I am still asking, to where you want to reach TMZ with all this?
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: paula-c on February 15, 2012, 09:25:58 AM
The masons take to John the Baptist to them
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: everlastinglove_MJ on February 15, 2012, 09:31:04 AM
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Thx blankie for sharing that video :cry:
I just watched Lenny's video message..."We all struggle, but...Why does it take death for us to appreciate folks? one day we're talking shit, next day they're the greatest thing that ever lived...which is it?"
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQaTUg1JSw8[/youtube]


Thank you very much  bearhug  ,I saw Lenny's tribute yesterday,very nice from his part  :'( !!!!!
Lenny was right about everything he said. That's why I despise these public deaths - cuz it gives people the convenient opportunity to be emotional. One day they talk all sorts of shit for said person, then he/she dies and they go 180 in everything they say. It's complete bullcrap and I'm ashamed of today's public. This shit happens all the time. It happened with MJ, now Whitney, who knows who's next  :( . What I do know is the hypocrites are once again gonna go the same way. Beautiful tribute Lenny  respect/ .
R.I.P. dear Whitney,you will be missed  :'(  !!!


Is beautiful, very beautiful    :cry: :cry: :cry:........ I agree dear Mindseye & Apple.  bearhug



 :cry:   bearhug  mindseye, apple and blankie I'm with you.

The overflow of respectless media tabloid stuff about Withney's passing really made me sad and mad. I tried to watch and read as little as possible , because if I do it feels like I'm supporting them (the media). It reminds me so much of the overwhelming, respectless, assuming, speculating and oversensational media trash after Michael's death.  :(

L.O.V.E.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: ilovemjforever on February 15, 2012, 10:03:21 AM
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WHITNEY HOUSTON
Had Premonition About Death

2/15/2012 1:00 AM PST BY TMZ STAFF

(http://ll-media.tmz.com/2012/02/14/0214-whitney-singing-ex-023.jpg)

Whitney Houston told friends she "really wanted to see Jesus" in the days before her death ... and claimed she had a feeling the end was near for her ... this according to several of Whitney's friends.

TMZ has learned ... Whitney had been very spiritual in her final days ... quoting the bible, singing hymns and engaging in intense conversations about Jesus Christ and the afterlife with her close friends and family members.

We're told .... on Friday , one day after she performed, "Yes Jesus Loves Me" at Tru nightclub in Hollywood, Whitney told one of her friends, "I'm gonna go see Jesus ... I want to see Jesus."

The next morning, hours before her death, Whitney was discussing a bible passage involving John the Baptist and Jesus ... when Houston flashed a big smile and remarked, "You know, he's so cool ... I really want to see that Jesus."

Another source tells us ... Whitney had been telling friends she "felt like her time was coming" ... and wanted to make sure she spent her time praising her lord and savior whenever she could.

Unfortunately, Whitney's premonition came true.
I don't know what to make of this.If this is true,is this another end of the world hint by TMZ.Harvey is trying to tell us something,but what.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: paula-c on February 15, 2012, 10:12:21 AM
 It seems that there are people who is realizing certain patterns in some deaths, forget about your mention of Michael.



Elvis, Lennon, Jacko,
Amy and now Whitney... one of the greatest
voices I ever heard
X Factor supremo Simon Cowell's emotional tribute to tragic Whitney Houston



X FACTOR supremo Simon Cowell paid an emotional tribute to tragic Whitney Houston last night — praising her as "one of the greatest of all time".

Simon, 52, revealed that he had been due to attend a business meeting today, at which plans to make the music legend a mentor on the US version of his show were to be discussed.

He said she was the artist who his X Factor wannabes most wanted to model themselves on.

The music guru likened the shock of her death to the loss of other music icons, such as John Lennon and Michael Jackson.

And, like many previous showbiz tragedies, he believes her death could have been avoided. Simon said:

"I'm so sad. We've lost one of the greatest singers of all time. She had one of the greatest voices I've ever heard in my life.

"There are always moments in your life which are horrible to remember.

"The day John Lennon died, Elvis Presley, and recently Michael Jackson and Amy Winehouse. And now Whitney. It's really, really horrible.

"You know, these are big, big stars and there is a kind of a pattern here which is really disturbing.

You just wanted these people to live a normal life, to enjoy the rest of their lives. They'd enjoyed it, they were right at the top.

"With all of them, this is the irony — they were all trying hard to make a big comeback and something prevented it happening and that in itself is tragic, it really is.

"It wasn't that they'd gone into retirement, they were all planning something special."

Referring to "pressure" Jacko was under when he died, Simon went on: "We know a lot about Whitney's past.

There were certain people in her life that you wish she'd never met. That's what's so upsetting, it didn't need to happen.

"It wasn't that she was ill, there were other issues."

He hinted that Whitney's troubled marriage to singer Bobby Brown was behind some of her problems.

Simon said: "Up until that point she was massively successful. Her records were fantastic, there were no signs of any crazy behaviour.

"Then it started to go downhill. It could all have been avoided."

Simon said he expected last night's Grammy Awards ceremony in Los Angeles to be dedicated to Whitney.

He said: "A lot of the people who are going to be getting awards owe an awful lot of their success, I believe, to Whitney.

"She was a trailblazer. She deserves to be remembered fondly.

"Ever since I've been doing this job — particularly doing talent shows over the past ten years — the singer anyone ever wanted to emulate, if they really wanted to be a superstar, was always Whitney.

"Ironically, we were going to have a meeting on Monday and one of the names we were going to be talking about as a possible mentor on the new series of X Factor was going to be Whitney. She would have been the ultimate mentor.

"There are so few people like her in the world. They are a rarefied breed. These are true superstars."

Simon recalled his last meeting with Whitney, when she appeared on X Factor in 2009 — the year Joe McElderry pipped Olly Murs in the final.

He said: "We all knew she had issues. You could sense there were still a few problems.

"But she was a delight to work with. She was very professional, she was kind to everyone.

"She was polite and charming, she was fun.

She probably wasn't altogether there — but it was still Whitney Houston and you knew you were in the presence of a legend.

"This is going to be one of these times when you're going to remember where you were when you heard the news. It's that significant. It's really, really, really upset me."

Other stars lined up to praise Whitney last night.

My Heart Will Go On singer Celine Dion, 43, said: "When I started my career, I wanted to be like her. I loved Whitney so much."

Tennis star Serena Williams, 30, wrote on Twitter: "One Moment In Time has propelled me to many of my grand slam victories."

Former Pussycat Doll and US X Factor panellist Nicole Scherzinger, 33, said: "Whitney Houston was and always will be my idol, my hero. At age five, she was the one who made me realise I wanted to be a singer."

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4125040/Whitney-Houston-news-Simon-Cowell-makes-emotional-tribute-to-tragic-singer.html


Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: AKHTONI on February 15, 2012, 10:38:50 AM
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"The day John Lennon died, Elvis Presley, and recently Michael Jackson and Amy Winehouse. And now Whitney. It's really, really horrible.

"The day John Lennon died,elvis and michael jackson's fake death and recently Amy Winehouse. And now Whitney. It's really, really horrible". this is better  /toldya/
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: applehead250609 on February 15, 2012, 01:17:34 PM
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Grace
Reply #340 on: February 15, 2012, 01:51:48 PM »
Quote

    Later this year, the singer will appear in the film, "Sparkle," in which she plays a mother concerned about the influence of fame and drugs on her three daughters, who form a singing group.
    Houston sings a gospel song on camera and a duet with co-star Jordin Sparks over the credits in the film, which began shooting in October. The movie and a soundtrack are set for wide release in August through Sony Corp.'s TriStar Pictures.
    "She was on top of her game," said executive producer Howard Rosenman, who saw a rough cut of the movie on Friday, a day before the singer's death. "She was really coming back."


http://news.yahoo.com/whitney-houston-estate-gain-questions-remain-223810535.htm (http://news.yahoo.com/whitney-houston-estate-gain-questions-remain-223810535.htm)

Thank you Grace   bearhug !!!
I had already put a video with Whitney talking about that movie,it was her last interview and I think she was on the set of the movie.Here I found 2 other videos where Whitney talks about how motherhood trained her for FILM,and that Aaliyah had to play in the movie Sparkle  :( .


Houston: Motherhood trained me for film
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCoSPCVNShM&feature=relmfu[/youtube]

Preview Whitney Houston Talks Aaliyah New Movie 'Sparkle' w Access Hollywood! Exclusive YouTube
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVt_D-LuWTs&feature=related[/youtube]
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: applehead250609 on February 15, 2012, 02:17:12 PM
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Shamone Jackson
Reply #342 on: February 15, 2012, 02:11:05 PM »

Quote from: applehead250609 on February 15, 2012, 03:33:28 AM

    Yes Whitney is dead unfortunately ,this is what I think too  :( .And talking about Bobby Brown ,today I heard a interview with one of Whitney's friend who knows her,even before she was married .Her name is Jennifer Holiday and she told Piers Morgan that unfortunately she started to take drugs before she meet Bobby  :( .She said this because she was asked by Piers.Majority of people blame Bobby Brown for her downfall and he was curious to know the truth.Well "the truth" was very,very painfull cause it's almost the same with what TINK already told us.Please listen to her and you will all understand what is like to be in that stupid bussiness  >:( .Bobby and Whitney loved each other, but love isn't enough to make a marriage work.They both had very serious problems with drugs and I'm glad they had enough sense to walk away from the marriage alive. They had dinner together three days before Whitney died  :( .

Thanks for posting.  I didn't know Whitney and Jennifer Holiday were friends.  In case some of you don't know who Jennifer Holiday is...she is the one that originally sang "And I'm Telling You" (Dreamgirls) on Broadway which was later sung by Jennifer Hudson.

You're welcome Shamone  bearhug !!!
Both of them were good friends and I was very sad to hear what she said about Whitney  :( .What Whitney had to went true all her life we will never know,and I think it's the best because her private LIFE it's not our business.Lately in the news are alot of gossip about her,but what she did and with who was her business.Everybody is free to do what they want to their lifes.
I don't know if people know who Robyn Crawford is but she wrote something very beautiful about Whitney OMG  :'( .I will only say this ,she was her best friend, whom she described as the "sister she never had" and also her former assistant.After I finished to read what she wrote I was in tears  :'( , cause it was the most beautiful and painfull things in the same time, I had ever read about Whitney !!!!!




Whitney Elizabeth Houston, 1963-2012

A look back at the star from one of her closest friends

By Robyn Crawford

(http://www.esquire.com/cm/esquire/images/Oa/esq-whitney-houston-021212-lg.jpg)

I met her when she was 16. It was at a summer job. I was working at a community center in East Orange, New Jersey, and she was working just like the rest of us. She was there to work. She introduced herself as "Whitney Elizabeth Houston," and I knew right away she was special. Not a lot of people introduced themselves with their middle names back then. She had peachy colored skin and she didn't look like anyone I'd ever met in East Orange, New Jersey.

She was nothing like the Whitney Houston she became but at the same time she was already there. She knew, and so did everyone around her. She was doing shows in Manhattan with her mother, and she'd change her clothes in the car and get on stage and do her thing. She hadn't signed her contract yet. But she was modeling for Wilhelmina because she was discovered on the street. She was walking in front of Carnegie Hall and someone walked up to her and said, "There's a modeling agency upstairs that's looking for someone just like you." She walked upstairs and they signed her. That's what it was like, that's what she gave off. She looked like an angel. When my mother first met her, she laughed and said, "You look like an angel, but I know you're not." And she wasn't. But she looked like one.

She chose the life she lived, and she chose it from the beginning. She knew the life better than anyone. Her mother was Cissy Houston, and she had been on the road with Dionne Warwick. She got her chops singing in church, and her mother said to her, "You know, you can always sing for free. You can always sing in church. You don't have to choose the professional life." But she chose because she'd been chosen. Some people sing just because. She was never like that. She had to put on her gear. She knew it was going to be a job and that's how she treated it. Once she committed to something, she finished it. Not long after I met her, she said, "Stick with me, and I'll take you around the world." She always knew where she was headed.

And we went around the world. I was her assistant and then her executive assistant and then her creative director. I was her point person for the day-to-day. I traveled all around the world first-class and anyone who ever worked for her will tell you her checks never bounced. You knew she was going to take care of you. She wasn't going to be in a five-star hotel while you were in a two. I flew the Concorde the way some people ride the bus. She shared the fruits, and she changed a lot of lives. The record company, the band members, her family, her friends, me — she fed everybody. Deep down inside that's what made her tired.

It was never easy. She never left anything undone. But it was hard. The Bodyguard was great when it was done, but it was a lot of work. She did the movie, she did the music, she did everything — and when she was done, she was done. She nailed it. The music supervisor brought her Linda Ronstadt's version of "I Will Always Love You" way before Kevin Costner brought Dolly Parton's version — and she always knew what she could do with it. So when Kevin came in and played it for her and told her he wanted her to sing it for the movie, she said, "Fine." She wasn't much for showing off what she had, except when she had to.

I always compare her performance of that song with a great athlete hitting his peak — with Michael Jordan in the playoffs. It was the absolute pinnacle of what she could do, of what anyone could do — and then she had to keep on doing it. Everybody wanted to hear her sing that song, and so she sang it. It didn't matter whether she had a cold, or wasn't in good voice; she had to deliver it, and she had it arranged so she could deliver every last note. And even if the note wasn't there, the feeling was. A lot of her songs were like that. They were a lot to deliver, but she delivered them every note, every time.

It's so strange that she died when she did. February was her month. Her first album was released on Valentine's Day, right around the time of the Grammys, right around the time of Clive Davis's party. It was an orchestrated thing. She was Clive's girl, his great discovery. And she died right before Valentine's Day, right before the Grammys, right before Clive's party. Of course, she was going. I don't know if she was singing, I don't know what kind of pressure she was putting on herself. But she was going, that's for damned sure.

People thought they had to protect her  :( . She hated that. And that's what people don't understand: She was always the one doing the driving. Someone just called and told me that the family kept Whitney from seeing her. Nobody kept Whitney from doing anything. She did what she wanted to do  :( . When people left her or were told to leave, they could never believe that Whitney would never call them — but she never did. She was working hard to keep herself together, and I think she felt that if she admitted any feeling of sadness or weakness she would crumble. One time, back when we were young, we were out, we were partying, and I said, "Listen, I have to go. I'm tired. I can't make it." And she looked at me with her eyes wide and said, "I've got to make it."

And that was Whitney. She could not pick up the phone, and that meant it was too painful. I have never spoken about her until now  :cry: . And she knew I wouldn't. She was a loyal friend, and she knew I was never going to be disloyal to her. I was never going to betray her  :? . Now I can't believe that I'm never going to hug her or hear her laughter again. I loved her laughter, and that's what I miss most, that's what I miss already  :'( .

I'm trying not to think of the end. I'm trying not to listen to all the reports. All these people talking about drugs — well, a lot of people take drugs, and they're still around. Whitney isn't, because you never know the way the wind blows. I just hope that she wasn't in pain and that she hadn't lost hope. She gave so much to so many people; I hope that she felt loved in return. She was the action, for such a long time. She's out of the action now. I hope she can finally rest.

—as told to Tom Junod
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 15, 2012, 03:50:10 PM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CKc1NYe7Tc&feature=share&noredirect=1
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WOOW!! Watch THIS ^^ !! So many connections to Michael and his mentality and his way of seeing God and life in general!! WOW! I'm stunned and frustrated i never knew about Whitney's come back in 2009! neither of this amazing interview she did with Oprah!! And somehow I feel like most people never knew about this either! Just like most people never knew about how 'they" staged Michael with those fake trials until after he "died", now Whitney dies and here we discover more amazing stuff about her! I'm sure there will be record breaks in the sales of her albums after her death too, just like in Michael's and Elvis' cases too! I feel this coming, just wait and see

Also in this video ^^ notice the color purple so present everywhere, Oprah's dress, the decor behind Whitney when she appears on stage, even in some of her first videos , lots of PURPLE!! This is NOT coincidence!! nor a mere taste for that color! that color screams HOAX/plan to my eyes! Oprah mentions no. 7 at the end. Whitney speaks about Michael at the beginning, then about GOD and faith in God, about how she is concerned about family and children, about what she wanted to transmit through her new album, towards the end Oprah and Whitney talk about their strong spiritual connection..... things that make you go hummmm !!! ♥ this is just part 2! And the way she explains what she's been through and how she liberated herself (in part 1) just comes to back up my belief that Michael must have had a helping hand either during or after her ordeal!


I don't know about you guys, but I'm growing more confident by the day that Whitney is alive and playing by Michael's plan!! people who think beLIEvers are crazy, will say well once you believe that MJ & Elvis are alive, then you believe everyone's alive! Well not everyone!! Just those who are truly connected!! And there are a lot of clues that connect Whitney to MJ's death hoax since second 1 that she was announced to have died!! I really had doubts since second 1!! I may be wrong, but I have this gut feeling that MJ's death hoax includes several celebrities: he wants to prove a point here: to the media - STOP trashing celebs! STOP lying to the public! How you do that? You SHOCK the world by faking deaths of several celebs, then you come back all together and make your point!! GENIUS plan! Can you guys feel what I feel??? Wow! That remote island is getting more and more crowded with talents!!
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 15, 2012, 04:07:27 PM
OMG!!! Michael sings Whitney's song!! never heard this one!! When was this recorded???
I so love this!! whether it's a voice-impersonator singing it or really Michael i don't know!! But I love it!!!
If someone knows more about this recording, pls share!

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbxCyIj4d7Y&feature=g-all-lik&context=G2c98e8cFAAAAAAAAMAA[/youtube]


Whitney Houston L.A. Coroner Hunting Down Prescription Records
http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/15/whitney-houston-pharmacy-medical-records-subpoena/#.TzwISIFWqwc

The L.A. County Coroner wants to get to the bottom of Whitney Houston's medical and pharmaceutical history -- obtaining subpoenas to get the singer's medical and drug records from her doctors.
According to Assistant Chief Coroner Ed Winter, it's not out of the ordinary to request such records.
As TMZ reported, there were a half-dozen Rx bottles in the hotel room where Whitney died, including prescriptions for Xanax, Amoxicillin and ibuprofen.  There was also a bottle of Midol, but nothing excessive or unusual.

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WHITNEY HOUSTON
Had Premonition About Death

2/15/2012 1:00 AM PST BY TMZ STAFF
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Whitney Houston told friends she "really wanted to see Jesus" in the days before her death ... and claimed she had a feeling the end was near for her ... this according to several of Whitney's friends.
TMZ has learned ... Whitney had been very spiritual in her final days ... quoting the bible, singing hymns and engaging in intense conversations about Jesus Christ and the afterlife with her close friends and family members.

We're told .... on Friday , one day after she performed, "Yes Jesus Loves Me" at Tru nightclub in Hollywood, Whitney told one of her friends, "I'm gonna go see Jesus ... I want to see Jesus."
The next morning, hours before her death, Whitney was discussing a bible passage involving John the Baptist and Jesus ... when Houston flashed a big smile and remarked, "You know, he's so cool ... I really want to see that Jesus."

Another source tells us ... Whitney had been telling friends she "felt like her time was coming" ... and wanted to make sure she spent her time praising her lord and savior whenever she could.
Unfortunately, Whitney's premonition came true.
http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/15/whitney-houston-premonition-death-jesus-bible/#.TzwJMIFWqwc

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ilovemjforever: "I don't know what to make of this.If this is true,is this another end of the world hint by TMZ.Harvey is trying to tell us something,but what."

^^ To me, the message is clear: it's all a hoax/movie!
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 15, 2012, 05:27:52 PM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsbVUCoku3E&feature=youtu.be[/youtube]



[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSRmz2IGgB8&feature=related[/youtube]

ELVIS:
- "Gospel music is the purest thing there is on this earth."
- "I believe in the Bible. I believe that all good things come from God.
I don't believe I'd sing the way I do if God hadn't wanted me to."


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hig_GJB5N2I&list=FLkC6Y4ea25ltNSLkO1ZDE-Q&index=224&feature=plpp_video[/youtube]
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 15, 2012, 06:22:37 PM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZQWSfIa7-Y[/youtube]


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HY21x1HjyjY&feature=related[/youtube]
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Dontwalkaway on February 15, 2012, 06:37:33 PM
SimPattyK,

Great Videos.  Whitney was/is beautiful inside and out.  What's surprising me is the TMZ article about the bible verses she quoted before her death.   The verse about Jesus' baptism.  I was just thinking about baptism yesterday after seeing the video you posted "Water Angel" and the video RK posted "Stranger in Moscow" with the rain and the birds.  We were talking about the holy spirit, and doves, feathers, and "doved up" etc.   I think it's on the Back/Front thread.  I was thinking that maybe holy water, baptism, and the holy spirit was important.  Now after seeing that TMZ article I really think it's a good idea.

Wow, these kinds of things have been happening to me for the past few weeks.  Either a picture,song,or article comes up with what I'm thinking about. 


Love You     
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 15, 2012, 06:42:53 PM
Dontwalkaway: you just perfectly drew the line between the latest dots ! ;)
and you're a mind reader !! what more can I say!

 Love you too!! (http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Amour/envoie-baiser-492.GIF)
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: wishingstar on February 15, 2012, 07:59:45 PM
Wasn't sure where to put this....I came across a Wiki page that talks about Hold Your Hand.  It stats that it was originally written with Whitney Houston in mind.  I don't know if any of this matters, but I thought I'd at least post the information.  I don't remember seeing this....apology, if it's a doubled posted issue.

Wikipedia says:

".....Co-writer Claude Kelly told HitQuarters that "Hold My Hand" was originally written with Whitney Houston in mind.[2] Akon and Kelly had been in the studio working on songs for Houston's I Look to You album and while on his own Kelly completed the song from a track Akon had left. After hearing the song later, Akon said that he loved it and wanted to keep it for himself, so he wanted to record his own version of it....."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hold_My_Hand_(Michael_Jackson_song)

*the link is freaking out a little....when I go to this link, I need to hit another to get to the main page about the song...just FYI......in case you don't see it right away

Blessings
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 15, 2012, 08:03:59 PM
TMZ is really having some fun these days!  :lol:

This one with the YELLOW !! flowers being stolen, kind of reminded me of Lisa's demand for more sunflowers to be brought at Forest lawn for Michael.
Needless to say that they clearly connected this piece of Whitney news, to Michael again! by that blatant reference to his song "Gone Too Soon"!!

http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/14/whitney-houston-dead-flowers-video-tmz-on-tv/#.TzxcXIFWp3A

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So many connections!! It's just too much for this not to mean something!!

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/showbiz/news/a365676/whitney-houston-death-michael-jackson-family-call-for-privacy.html?rss

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WTF?? WTF?? WTF??

Diddy Hospitalized
http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/13/diddy-hospitalized-p-diddy-playboy-mansion-migraine/#.Tzlg9oFWp3A

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Diddy was hospitalized this AM for an extreme migraine ... TMZ has learned.
The mogul hosted a post-Grammy party at the Playboy Mansion Sunday night.  After the party, Diddy went home and got symptoms of a massive headache.

Diddy's entourage became so concerned ... they drove him to the UCLA  emergency room -- btw, the same place where Michael Jackson was pronounced dead.

Diddy was treated and is back at home ... feeling a lot better.  A Diddy source tells us ... the migraine was unrelated to anything that went down at the Mansion.
And this ^^ Why did TMZ need to mention that ???
And few hours later , TMZ posts this on twiter to make sure everyone got that!!

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And I'm gonna say some more:
1. Whitney's interview at Oprah  (i posted part 2 above^^ in a previous post), the way she "confessed" to everything made me think of Lady Diana's interview with Martin BaSHIT!
2. Whitney's GOLDEN hearse (http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/14/whitney-houston-body-wingham-funeral-home-new-jersey/#.TzxirIFWp3A) being viewed by the fans in the streets of NJ, made me think of Lady Diana's hearse in the streets of London!
3. Whitney's body being flown back to Atlanta on Tyler Perry's private jet, made me think of Prince Charles who arranged for Lady Diana's body to be flown back to London.

CREEPY!!
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 15, 2012, 08:09:48 PM
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Wasn't sure where to put this....I came across a Wiki page that talks about Hold Your Hand.  It stats that it was originally written with Whitney Houston in mind.  I don't know if any of this matters, but I thought I'd at least post the information.  I don't remember seeing this....apology, if it's a doubled posted issue.

Wikipedia says:

".....Co-writer Claude Kelly told HitQuarters that "Hold My Hand" was originally written with Whitney Houston in mind.[2] Akon and Kelly had been in the studio working on songs for Houston's I Look to You album and while on his own Kelly completed the song from a track Akon had left. After hearing the song later, Akon said that he loved it and wanted to keep it for himself, so he wanted to record his own version of it....."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hold_My_Hand_(Michael_Jackson_song)

*the link is freaking out a little....when I go to this link, I need to hit another to get to the main page about the song...just FYI......in case you don't see it right away

Blessings

Wow! nice find!
You know, in Whitney's interview at Oprah, in part 2 that I posted above^^ in a previous post, you can hear her, towards the end, when she says to Oprah , that during her recovery period she and her daughter Bobbi Kristina never let go off holding their hands or something like that.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hold_My_Hand_%28Michael_Jackson_song%29

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Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Tink on February 15, 2012, 08:30:48 PM
(http://www.air-flite.com/smairtay.JPG)
This is what I was told her body was actually within and loaded inside the private jet at the Van Nuys airport.
It's called an airtray - lighter than a casket.

She's really deceased - dead. Her spirit has fled this plane of existence; she's no more in her body, ever again.

Her father had a history of heart disease and diabetes. When you have either parent with it, and you are an addict,
it raises your likelihood of not living to be old and grey.

Addiction prematurely ages your body, your organs, inside & out - by an awful lot.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 15, 2012, 08:34:45 PM
@Tink: Do you think that it was Michael in that golden coffin that we saw displayed at the memorial?
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: ~Souza~ on February 15, 2012, 08:48:47 PM
Okay, I'm not saying (YET) that this is a hoax, but this story is one hell of a deja-vu...

You know, MJ's working on a real life Thriller, he needs more 'zombies' than just himself. Some of these recent deaths are too weird. And why is there still no info about LiLo's movie 'Escaping the Game' that is set to be released in just a couple of months? Am I totally crazy, or is there a long list of celebs that really 'escaped the game' in order to expose some shit? I will wait it out for a few more days, but there is something going on with Whitney's death, something's off. I have this huge list in my head with celebs I think faked their deaths, and I am afraid Whitney's on it too now. Maybe I'm crazy, maybe this is even bigger than just MJ. Let's HOPE so.

I have to think about this, can't handle another hoax, lol.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Andrea on February 15, 2012, 08:57:21 PM
I'm thinking along the same lines as you Souza.  I wouldn't say yet that Whitney has faked her death but there's no such thing as coincidence, right?  And her death seems to be filled with nothing but.

I have a little list in my head too of people I think might actually still be alive.  I've said before that if Michael is not alone when he BAMs then people won't be as angry at his deception, more willing to listen to what he (and others) have to say, especially WHY they did it.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Adi on February 15, 2012, 09:09:57 PM
I too have started questioning the oddities surrounding Whitney's death. Not willing to say she has definitely faked her death but there are a few bells ringing for me the last day or so.

I have a list in my head of others as well.....I wonder if we are all thinking of the same people?? Interesting observation about Lindsay Lohan's movie yet to be released "Escaping the Game". I have always felt there is something going on with her these last few years that isn't as we are being led to"beLIEve" by the media.

Also Andrea I have thought the same as you too about MJ having included others in the faked death arena so it might not only be him on his own when the BAM does finally come?

IDK...it's doing my head in a bit thinking about it....for now I am going to sit back and watch how the events pan out  concerning Whitney.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Chinbie on February 15, 2012, 09:17:38 PM
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Okay, I'm not saying (YET) that this is a hoax, but this story is one hell of a deja-vu...

You know, MJ's working on a real life Thriller, he needs more 'zombies' than just himself. Some of these recent deaths are too weird. And why is there still no info about LiLo's movie 'Escaping the Game' that is set to be released in just a couple of months? Am I totally crazy, or is there a long list of celebs that really 'escaped the game' in order to expose some shit? I will wait it out for a few more days, but there is something going on with Whitney's death, something's off. I have this huge list in my head with celebs I think faked their deaths, and I am afraid Whitney's on it too now. Maybe I'm crazy, maybe this is even bigger than just MJ. Let's HOPE so.

I have to think about this, can't handle another hoax, lol.
i agree with you souza
i am thinking abt Michael needs some ally with him like our love army.
so that when the time comes,they will reveal all the truth and all of them helps Michael to do this great project.
otherwise i believe this kind of incidents are too weird.
all of "them" are close to mj. /overreacting/ /overreacting/
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: BeTheChange on February 15, 2012, 09:32:42 PM
Me too...I'm just watchin' and letting it all 'simmer'.  But based on what TMZ keeps putting out alone...there's some weird stuff going on with Whitney's death.  It sure looks like they are intentionally drawing attention to parallels...and it just keeps getting more 'familiar' (as Souza said...it's like deja-vu).

As for there being others helping Mike...there's definitely a list I've got going on lol.  Perhaps 'they' are the 7 in 'the theory of seven'.  I hope that Whitney's death is a hoax...and she's somewhere with Mike planning their next move.  If that's the case, was she the last one to join the 'group'?  Or are we in for more heartstoppers before the end?

With L.O.V.E. always.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 15, 2012, 09:44:32 PM
^^ Speaking about a "Weird LIST in Whitney's case" , here's the one I had started the very day she was pronounced dead!
I didn't have time yet to add all the other oddities that happened in these last 2 days, but the list below is getting longer and longer by the day! ;)


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Ok, time for a Whitney death - news RECAP -
just to see the line of oddities/similarities in relation to Michael's "death"

1.
September 13th, 2011 [ 9+1+3+2+1+1=17 ; 1+7 = 8 ] - Whitney Houston's rep issued a shocked denial today to counter reports that the singer/actress has died  (http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/story?id=102477&page=1#.TzceE4FWqwc) (just like it happened with that Sun article about Michael having 6 months to live on December 2008)

2. TMZ is the first to have announced Whitney's death on February 11th, 2012 [2+1+1+2+1+2 = 9] (just like in Michael's case with TMZ being the first to announce it!). She died at 48 [4+8 = 12]

3. Although the cause of death is yet unknown, we are reminded of Whitney's problem with drugs! (WTF!! all the celebrities are drug addicts?? come on!! Whitney is just another friend of Michael's that mysteriously dies in such a brief period since his "death").
Something smells bad here!! The only possible way that this isn't true and that they are all dead, is that this is someone else's scenario! (read TPTB/Illuminati), otherwise... I can't explain all these similarities and coincidences!! this is all crazy!!

4. Several members of the Jackson family start twitting immediately after TMZ's article. Out of them all the most odd was Tito's twit:
"CAN YOU FEEL IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I HAVE BEEN BUSY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
just had to pop in i and say hey
my prayers go out for Whitney and her family
what a talent
had to make time to say that
she did Michael's 30th in new york in 2001
she wowed me--
i will be back soon--promise
much love-peace and happiness"

5. Mariah Carey, Orianthi, David Copperfield post their RIP messages on twitter too.

6. TMZ updates the initial article with this info : "She died at the Beverly Hilton Hotel. A police crime lab vehicle was seen outside the hotel[...]" and then TMZ continues to post various other articles on Whitney...

7. Whitney was working on her comeback album! Another similarity to Michael and Elvis cases!

8. And step by step the case repeats ! TMZ informs that: Police Seek Search Warrant in Death Investigation (http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/11/whitney-houston-dead-search-warrant/#.Tzc8bYFWp3B)
What will be the next  2 news? heart attack and murder!? Then it's HIStory repeating!! identical to Michael! Sorry but this story is so similar from the beginning till now, I just can't help noticing! it's so blatant!

9. @alfarle mentioned also was getting email news notices from blackplanetnews.com making statements like "is Whitney Houston suicidal?!" . They just wouldn't leave her alone! Not only that, but also news stories saying that she was broke and on her way to being homeless. (Just like in michael's case when they were spreading rumors of him dying and being broke and all that B.S.!)

10. hesouttamylife: "Michael Jackson “gone" before BET Awards, Amy Winehouse “gone" before VMA Awards, Whitney Houston “gone" before The Grammy Awards  :shock:   Nothing is coincidence." - So right!!! There are NO coincidences!!!

11. Whitney found dead in the bathtub? Reminded me of Britney's video EVERY TIME
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YzabSdk7ZA&ob=av2e[/youtube]

12. So from what TMZ is reporting, Whitney died from the same cause as Michael - "fatal mixture of drug prescriptions" and NOT drowning! TMZ also suggests it might be a heart attack.

13. And I'll add as Oddity no. 13 - Nelson de la Nuez quoting David Copperfield's twit!

14. Whitney's prescriptions came from the same pharmacy as Michael's - MICKEY Fine (Arnold Klein) - perfect connection especially with all the MICKEY Mouse-clues that I discussed about in the thread...


Once Is Chance, Twice is Coincidence, Third Time Is A Pattern

We have more than 3 'coincidences' in Whitney's case,
We have more than 3 blatant similar occurrences in all these celebrities cases!!
Whatever it is, we are being fooled!! We are fully entitled to believe that!

Whether this is part of Michael's death hoax-scenario OR part of some Illuminati death-scheme,
we can't possibly be 100% sure now!
But one thing is SURE: NOTHING IS WHAT IT SEEMS!!!


I don't want to make a Britney-hoax-Michael out of Whitney's dead thread, but please tell me if this isn't so ObVIOUS!!!  As much as it pains me to think that maybe Whitney really died, I can't help noticing all these connections!! This is more shocking than the death news in itself!! it makes me go nuts!!! Something fishy is going ON!
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: hesouttamylife on February 15, 2012, 09:52:28 PM
Three of the oddest coincidences (of which I don’t believe in) are the song being initially being written for Whitney; Whitney’s preoccupation with going to be with Jesus soon; (or someone Jesus like) /white flag/  and; the ONE time she was left alone in her room turned out to have been her meeting with death.  WTF??  Sounds like it could be a plan to me, Michael.  Reminds me of the Bible passage, That where I am, ye shall also be, and if I go I will come again and receive you unto myself.  It would be awesome beyond words if Michael outsmarted the industry AGAIN.  Big time!  But I’ll wait a while longer to see what comes out of the report and watching the funeral.  Remember the days when celebs died and they laid in wait for the fans to get a last chance to say their goodbyes before they were funeralized?  Lines would be for miles.  Those were the days when they were allowed to live full lives and died of natural causes.  We certainly need to get back to then.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Tink on February 15, 2012, 10:43:13 PM
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@Tink: Do you think that it was Michael in that golden coffin that we saw displayed at the memorial?

@Patty - You really don't know me, do you?  rr/ A chance to finally give my own theory, that is more inline with the great Illusionist, Houdini!

ONLY if he felt like it was the best way to direct the memorial from within it, like a command center, with a MAC BOOK PRO using the wireless feed the Staples center has. He'd also be closest to his kids, to be able to speak to them, watching them from the closest possible place - giving Paris comfort, because she'd know daddy was there, talking to her at all times. I would also theorize, that he'd been practicing for this Illusionist stunt, which is why all the oxygen tanks, that were at his house. There's some air in those caskets, because they aren't hermetically sealed - (I hid inside of a blue one before, for 15 minutes, before I lost my nerve). This is also the secret to burying Illusionists underground - they have an assistant with an oxygen tank feeding them oxygen, on the other side of one of the false walls!  8-)

BUT - concerning Michael's memorial, actually - what I did observe? I didn't see ANYONE cry tears! What I saw was play acting, smiling to pretend a grimace, without tears. I saw a young girl fooling around with an ear piece with receiver in her purse, being coached at what to say.

You see, it's believable with Michael being alive, because of the privacy that was smoke-screened around him. Add to that my friend seeing Michael in November - I have no doubt he's alive. I retro-actively watched the video of the movement in the video of the helicopter, which I thought was a joke.
Instead, I leapt out of my skin! Though of course, I strongly feel the best way to escape, is to not be there - and for it to be someone else. I also heard Latoya speak live. The stars on our state's bronze plaque with one too many stars. I'd recently done jury duty last summer, and it's correct where I live. THAT is when I realized something's very odd. Plus, it ended quite differently from how O.J. Simpson's trial ended. That in itself was a dead giveaway - there were certain things that couldn't be done, to prevent those running the show, from breaking the law.

Michael's father referring to his son as, "King of Pop," and not Michael. They all said, "The King of Pop" is dead. Great, so a TITLE is deceased, whew!

But Whitney wasn't in financial distress; she wasn't being chased. I firmly believe, she had her water too hot, and she drowned,
after falling unconscious when she stayed longer than 15 minutes in it. She either passed out, or her heart gave out.


More than anything, anything else, THIS is why I'm POSITIVE Whitney is deceased:

Her daughter Bobbi - rushed to the ER, for anxiety more than once - The exact same thing happened to me, with my daddy...more than 2 decades ago. This wasn't make believe; this wasn't pretend; this was they pure raw emotion, of a teenager -  suddenly a child again, because momma's dead, and she wasn't even allowed to touch her - as they removed her momma's body from her grasp!  :'(
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Shamone Jackson on February 15, 2012, 10:57:01 PM
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You're welcome Shamone  bearhug !!!
Both of them were good friends and I was very sad to hear what she said about Whitney  :( .What Whitney had to went true all her life we will never know,and I think it's the best because her private LIFE it's not our business.Lately in the news are alot of gossip about her,but what she did and with who was her business.Everybody is free to do what they want to their lifes.
I don't know if people know who Robyn Crawford is but she wrote something very beautiful about Whitney OMG  :'( .I will only say this ,she was her best friend, whom she described as the "sister she never had" and also her former assistant.After I finished to read what she wrote I was in tears  :'( , cause it was the most beautiful and painfull things in the same time, I had ever read about Whitney !!!!!




Whitney Elizabeth Houston, 1963-2012

A look back at the star from one of her closest friends

By Robyn Crawford

(http://www.esquire.com/cm/esquire/images/Oa/esq-whitney-houston-021212-lg.jpg)

I met her when she was 16. It was at a summer job. I was working at a community center in East Orange, New Jersey, and she was working just like the rest of us. She was there to work. She introduced herself as "Whitney Elizabeth Houston," and I knew right away she was special. Not a lot of people introduced themselves with their middle names back then. She had peachy colored skin and she didn't look like anyone I'd ever met in East Orange, New Jersey.

She was nothing like the Whitney Houston she became but at the same time she was already there. She knew, and so did everyone around her. She was doing shows in Manhattan with her mother, and she'd change her clothes in the car and get on stage and do her thing. She hadn't signed her contract yet. But she was modeling for Wilhelmina because she was discovered on the street. She was walking in front of Carnegie Hall and someone walked up to her and said, "There's a modeling agency upstairs that's looking for someone just like you." She walked upstairs and they signed her. That's what it was like, that's what she gave off. She looked like an angel. When my mother first met her, she laughed and said, "You look like an angel, but I know you're not." And she wasn't. But she looked like one.

She chose the life she lived, and she chose it from the beginning. She knew the life better than anyone. Her mother was Cissy Houston, and she had been on the road with Dionne Warwick. She got her chops singing in church, and her mother said to her, "You know, you can always sing for free. You can always sing in church. You don't have to choose the professional life." But she chose because she'd been chosen. Some people sing just because. She was never like that. She had to put on her gear. She knew it was going to be a job and that's how she treated it. Once she committed to something, she finished it. Not long after I met her, she said, "Stick with me, and I'll take you around the world." She always knew where she was headed.

And we went around the world. I was her assistant and then her executive assistant and then her creative director. I was her point person for the day-to-day. I traveled all around the world first-class and anyone who ever worked for her will tell you her checks never bounced. You knew she was going to take care of you. She wasn't going to be in a five-star hotel while you were in a two. I flew the Concorde the way some people ride the bus. She shared the fruits, and she changed a lot of lives. The record company, the band members, her family, her friends, me — she fed everybody. Deep down inside that's what made her tired.

It was never easy. She never left anything undone. But it was hard. The Bodyguard was great when it was done, but it was a lot of work. She did the movie, she did the music, she did everything — and when she was done, she was done. She nailed it. The music supervisor brought her Linda Ronstadt's version of "I Will Always Love You" way before Kevin Costner brought Dolly Parton's version — and she always knew what she could do with it. So when Kevin came in and played it for her and told her he wanted her to sing it for the movie, she said, "Fine." She wasn't much for showing off what she had, except when she had to.

I always compare her performance of that song with a great athlete hitting his peak — with Michael Jordan in the playoffs. It was the absolute pinnacle of what she could do, of what anyone could do — and then she had to keep on doing it. Everybody wanted to hear her sing that song, and so she sang it. It didn't matter whether she had a cold, or wasn't in good voice; she had to deliver it, and she had it arranged so she could deliver every last note. And even if the note wasn't there, the feeling was. A lot of her songs were like that. They were a lot to deliver, but she delivered them every note, every time.

It's so strange that she died when she did. February was her month. Her first album was released on Valentine's Day, right around the time of the Grammys, right around the time of Clive Davis's party. It was an orchestrated thing. She was Clive's girl, his great discovery. And she died right before Valentine's Day, right before the Grammys, right before Clive's party. Of course, she was going. I don't know if she was singing, I don't know what kind of pressure she was putting on herself. But she was going, that's for damned sure.

People thought they had to protect her  :( . She hated that. And that's what people don't understand: She was always the one doing the driving. Someone just called and told me that the family kept Whitney from seeing her. Nobody kept Whitney from doing anything. She did what she wanted to do  :( . When people left her or were told to leave, they could never believe that Whitney would never call them — but she never did. She was working hard to keep herself together, and I think she felt that if she admitted any feeling of sadness or weakness she would crumble. One time, back when we were young, we were out, we were partying, and I said, "Listen, I have to go. I'm tired. I can't make it." And she looked at me with her eyes wide and said, "I've got to make it."

And that was Whitney. She could not pick up the phone, and that meant it was too painful. I have never spoken about her until now  :cry: . And she knew I wouldn't. She was a loyal friend, and she knew I was never going to be disloyal to her. I was never going to betray her  :? . Now I can't believe that I'm never going to hug her or hear her laughter again. I loved her laughter, and that's what I miss most, that's what I miss already  :'( .

I'm trying not to think of the end. I'm trying not to listen to all the reports. All these people talking about drugs — well, a lot of people take drugs, and they're still around. Whitney isn't, because you never know the way the wind blows. I just hope that she wasn't in pain and that she hadn't lost hope. She gave so much to so many people; I hope that she felt loved in return. She was the action, for such a long time. She's out of the action now. I hope she can finally rest.

—as told to Tom Junod

Oh wow, this is so touching.  Thank you. :(
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: MJonmind on February 16, 2012, 02:44:50 AM

Wow, lots of great comments!

SimPattyK, great list of odd things and comparisons to MJ.
Did you mention about both having a story that water flooded the place, in WH's case the suite below, and in MJ's the house?

Souza, great post!
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You know, MJ's working on a real life Thriller, he needs more 'zombies' than just himself. Some of these recent deaths are too weird. And why is there still no info about LiLo's movie 'Escaping the Game' that is set to be released in just a couple of months? Am I totally crazy, or is there a long list of celebs that really 'escaped the game' in order to expose some shit? I will wait it out for a few more days, but there is something going on with Whitney's death, something's off. I have this huge list in my head with celebs I think faked their deaths, and I am afraid Whitney's on it too now. Maybe I'm crazy, maybe this is even bigger than just MJ. Let's HOPE so.

Andrea, Yes, and a line-up of them would help verify that they weren’t some doubles or kooks.

BeTheChange
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Perhaps 'they' are the 7 in 'the theory of seven'.

Who’s on your list of 7 fakers?  Maybe Elvis, Princess Diana, Tupac, MJ, Whitney, and who else?
Edit: adding James Brown.

I remember the clip of the 5 climbing out of the coroner's van after MJ--Elvis, Abraham Lincoln and Jesus.  Hmm...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yowAiEpOHac (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yowAiEpOHac)

Teine21
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Sorry, I don't think MJ's gone. I phrased that last sentence wrong. I meant that there was more going on behind the scenes and the same way they wanted to get rid of him is the same in the case of Whitney. I don't buy the drug story one bit when it comes to Whitney. She looked great and the way they're trying hard to push her being an addict even showing pictures of her sweaty at a PARTY in a CLUB to try to prove their theory is very reminiscent of what they tried to do to MJ.
Whitney clearly said she had been swimming, and that she swims every day for 2 hours. That’s why she was wet and a little disheveled. From all the videos I've seen she looks absolutely stunning.

At Clive Davis’s party they showed a pic of her looking like she was sacrificed on the cross position, as if another entertainment industry sacrifice, could also be her helpers fueling this interpretation of her death.

This could all so-o much go in either direction, be proof of industry murder or well-planned hoax.

Have you guys noticed that neither Front or TS have said anything about WH? Strange.  Could this be the 'Project'?

If so, exactly how many celebrities are in on this extravaganza of a Thriller 2?  The taking of entertainment to the 'next level'.
















Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: gwynned on February 16, 2012, 03:24:38 AM
This is an amazing video.  So amazing, in fact, one wonders how it could have been put together so professionally and with such insight in just a few days.  IF Michael is behind Whitney's 'passing,' I have to think he or his team had something to do with this video.  Whether or not Whitney is alive, I think there is much food for contemplation and discussion in this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzFElz0T-3A&feature=player_embedded

Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 16, 2012, 07:57:22 AM
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Wow, lots of great comments!

SimPattyK, great list of odd things and comparisons to MJ.
Did you mention about both having a story that water flooded the place, in WH's case the suite below, and in MJ's the house?
[...]
Thank you MJonMind I will add that in the list, too and  also many others that I didn't have time yet to add. I think they surpass the no. 20!! And I also wait to see the memorial/funeral etc... and the final cause of death announced officially! there's more to come I can feel it!.

1. The fact that Whitney's death is so connected to Michael's "death" is one thing!

2. The fact that Whitney's death is connected to the pharmaceutical mafia is another thing!

3. The fact that Whitney's death seems to be a satanic sacrifice, tells me 2 things: either it really is what it seems to be , so she is dead now!
OR it is made to look like a satanic sacrifice, on purpose!! to expose exactly what these Illuminati bastards have been doing for so long now: satanic sacrifices with celebrities!
Therefore, in this case, Whitney's case could be just used as an example of how Illuminate usually operate!
I mean in case "they" really killed her, are "they" like stupid or what?? Because it's just too blatant!!! it looks like it's done on purpose to expose them OR "they" really don't care anymore and don't even bother to hide their traces and do everything in the open!? WTF is going on here??
This is also used to serve as an example of how the masses are fooled by the media. This theory perfectly fits with the theory that Michael is behind this!

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BeTheChange
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Perhaps 'they' are the 7 in 'the theory of seven'.

Who’s on your list of 7 fakers?  Maybe Elvis, Princess Diana, Tupac, MJ, Whitney, and who else?
I remember the clip of the 5 climbing out of the coroner's van after MJ--Elvis, Abraham Lincoln and Jesus.  Hmm...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yowAiEpOHac (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yowAiEpOHac)

[....]
Great post BeTheChange & MjonMind!!
Here's "MY Theory of 7" lol  :lol: I have reasons to believe that the following celebs are ALIVE and well working with Michael on this genius giant project of SHOCKING the world with the purpose of creating a major SHIFT/CHANGE from the 666 Satanic system that rules the world right now (from the shadow!) to a 999 God/Faith based system! It is just my belief, my opinion.... I don't know if I'm right or wrong, but I believe that on Michael's island/place there is a great "collection" of celebs like:

1. MIKE
2. Elvis
3. Lady Diana
4. 2PAC
5. James Brown
6. Liz Taylor
7. Frank Dileo
8. Whitney Houston

and who knows else!
surely: Mickey Mouse's there too!!  :lol: :lol: :lol:


And I'm gonna say some more:

1. Whitney's interview at Oprah  (i posted part 2 on the previous page), the way she "confessed" about the troubles of her marriage with Bobby Brown and her drug issues, made me think of Lady Diana's interview with Martin BaSHIT where she "confessed" about the troubles of her marriage with Prince Charles and her bulimia issues.

2. Whitney's GOLDEN hearse (http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/14/whitney-houston-body-wingham-funeral-home-new-jersey/#.TzxirIFWp3A) being viewed by the fans in the streets of NJ, made me think of Lady Diana's hearse in the streets of London!

3. Whitney's body being flown back to Atlanta on Tyler Perry's private jet, made me think of Prince Charles who arranged for Lady Diana's body to be flown back to London.

CREEPY!!
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: mindseye on February 16, 2012, 09:34:20 AM
The more news/ stories I read, the more I see just how bizarre the entertainment industry is. It’s beyond words. I don’t believe that her death is a hoax or some sacrifice. It’s easy to read into a lot of coincidences or things that have nothing to do with it. Something is off because it’s a strange business by nature…then of course there’s the media feeding off this. It’s all about money, it’s a business of entertainers and thugs. That’s Hollywood.  If Michael faked his death I believe it was mainly to escape from it all and live peacefully away from the leeches, the sneddons of the world and the industry thugs. I’m observing the differences, at what makes his death less believable than hers. The most memorable is the bizarre helicopter flight with open doors and a body wrapped in a sheet. The memorial, Funeral which is staged, the delays. And I think Janet is looking uncomfortable in that interview because Whitney’s death is real. You'd think he'd want to be there at Whitney's funeral,  invitation only.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: gwynned on February 16, 2012, 09:41:28 AM
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Wow, lots of great comments!

SimPattyK, great list of odd things and comparisons to MJ.
Did you mention about both having a story that water flooded the place, in WH's case the suite below, and in MJ's the house?
[...]
Thank you MJonMind I will add that in the list, too and  also many others that I didn't have time yet to add. I think they surpass the no. 20!! And I also wait to see the memorial/funeral etc... and the final cause of death announced officially! there's more to come I can feel it!.

1. The fact that Whitney's death is so connected to Michael's "death" is one thing!

2. The fact that Whitney's death is connected to the pharmaceutical mafia is another thing!

3. The fact that Whitney's death seems to be a satanic sacrifice, tells me 2 things: either it really is what it seems to be , so she is dead now!
OR it is made to look like a satanic sacrifice, on purpose!! to expose exactly what these Illuminati bastards have been doing for so long now: satanic sacrifices with celebrities!
Therefore, in this case, Whitney's case could be just used as an example of how Illuminate usually operate!
I mean in case "they" really killed her, are "they" like stupid or what?? Because it's just too blatant!!! it looks like it's done on purpose to expose them OR "they" really don't care anymore and don't even bother to hide their traces and do everything in the open!? WTF is going on here??
This is also used to serve as an example of how the masses are fooled by the media. This theory perfectly fits with the theory that Michael is behind this!

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BeTheChange
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Perhaps 'they' are the 7 in 'the theory of seven'.

Who’s on your list of 7 fakers?  Maybe Elvis, Princess Diana, Tupac, MJ, Whitney, and who else?
I remember the clip of the 5 climbing out of the coroner's van after MJ--Elvis, Abraham Lincoln and Jesus.  Hmm...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yowAiEpOHac (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yowAiEpOHac)

[....]
Great post BeTheChange & MjonMind!!
Here's "MY Theory of 7" lol  :lol: I have reasons to believe that the following celebs are ALIVE and well working with Michael on this genius giant project of SHOCKING the world with the purpose of creating a major SHIFT/CHANGE from the 666 Satanic system that rules the world right now (from the shadow!) to a 999 God/Faith based system! It is just my belief, my opinion.... I don't know if I'm right or wrong, but I believe that on Michael's island/place there is a great "collection" of celebs like:

1. MIKE
2. Elvis
3. Lady Diana
4. 2PAC
5. James Brown
6. Liz Taylor
7. Frank Dileo
8. Whitney Houston

and who knows else!
surely: Mickey Mouse's there too!!  :lol: :lol: :lol:


And I'm gonna say some more:

1. Whitney's interview at Oprah  (i posted part 2 on the previous page), the way she "confessed" about the troubles of her marriage with Bobby Brown and her drug issues, made me think of Lady Diana's interview with Martin BaSHIT where she "confessed" about the troubles of her marriage with Prince Charles and her bulimia issues.

2. Whitney's GOLDEN hearse (http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/14/whitney-houston-body-wingham-funeral-home-new-jersey/#.TzxirIFWp3A) being viewed by the fans in the streets of NJ, made me think of Lady Diana's hearse in the streets of London!

3. Whitney's body being flown back to Atlanta on Tyler Perry's private jet, made me think of Prince Charles who arranged for Lady Diana's body to be flown back to London.

CREEPY!!

I think you may be right about all the 'satanic' rituals, including the Superbowl and the Grammys, as well as the deaths you mentioned.  Clearly there have been ritualistic deaths previously.  But why are things becoming suddenly so obvious? 

It was suggested to me some time ago that Lady Diana faked her death by someone whom I respect, so I am open (hopeful!) about the possibility.  Perhaps Michael will appear with his 'star family' behind him and bring them all back to life, like in 'Ghosts.'  Much as we all love Michael, the whole world does not feel the same.  But the appearance of all these people would be incontrovertible.  Not so sure about James Brown, but I would feel good if he were alive too!

Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Starchild on February 16, 2012, 09:49:31 AM
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The more news/ stories I read, the more I see just how bizarre the entertainment industry is. It’s beyond words. I don’t believe that her death is a hoax or some sacrifice. It’s easy to read into a lot of coincidences or things that have nothing to do with it. Something is off because it’s a strange business by nature…then of course there’s the media feeding off this. It’s all about money, it’s a business of entertainers and thugs. That’s Hollywood.  If Michael faked his death I believe it was mainly to escape from it all and live peacefully away from the leeches, the sneddons of the world and the industry thugs. I’m observing the differences, at what makes his death less believable than hers. The most memorable is the bizarre helicopter flight with open doors and a body wrapped in a sheet. The memorial, Funeral which is staged, the delays. And I think Janet is looking uncomfortable in that interview because Whitney’s death is real. You'd think he'd want to be there at Whitney's funeral,  invitation only.

Tend to agree.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: hesouttamylife on February 16, 2012, 10:54:09 AM
The industry is  killing our super novas!  There has to be an investigation.  It's crucial. 
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 16, 2012, 11:05:23 AM
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[....]
Here's "MY Theory of 7" lol  :lol: I have reasons to believe that the following celebs are ALIVE and well working with Michael on this genius giant project of SHOCKING the world with the purpose of creating a major SHIFT/CHANGE from the 666 Satanic system that rules the world right now (from the shadow!) to a 999 God/Faith based system! It is just my belief, my opinion.... I don't know if I'm right or wrong, but I believe that on Michael's island/place there is a great "collection" of celebs like:

1. MIKE
2. Elvis
3. Lady Diana
4. 2PAC
5. James Brown
6. Liz Taylor
7. Frank Dileo
8. Whitney Houston

and who knows else!
surely: Mickey Mouse's there too!!  :lol: :lol: :lol:


And I'm gonna say some more:

1. Whitney's interview at Oprah  (i posted part 2 on the previous page), the way she "confessed" about the troubles of her marriage with Bobby Brown and her drug issues, made me think of Lady Diana's interview with Martin BaSHIT where she "confessed" about the troubles of her marriage with Prince Charles and her bulimia issues.

2. Whitney's GOLDEN hearse (http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/14/whitney-houston-body-wingham-funeral-home-new-jersey/#.TzxirIFWp3A) being viewed by the fans in the streets of NJ, made me think of Lady Diana's hearse in the streets of London!

3. Whitney's body being flown back to Atlanta on Tyler Perry's private jet, made me think of Prince Charles who arranged for Lady Diana's body to be flown back to London.

CREEPY!!
[....]
  Not so sure about James Brown, but I would feel good if he were alive too!

@gwynned: Thank you for your comment ;)

Now regarding James Brown . . .
I made some montages about the stuff that makes me beLIEve that hes alive and together with Michael. i think I had posted some of them last year, I'm not sure you saw them, so here they are below... tell me what you think ...

First of all, just like Whitney Houston, James Brown had STRONG connections both with ELVIS and with Michael!!
So to me, who I am a firm believer of Elvis being alive, having Whitney Houston & James Brown in this "hoax-equation" sounds like the most plausible thing!!
James brown idolized Elvis!
Michael idolized James Brown!
Whitney idolized Michael!
It's like passing it from generation to generation lmao  :lol: They're really like family!
These 4 guys have always been so tied together!!!  albino/ I definitely picture them planning the Greatest Show on Earth!  :lol: They're like forever "partners in crime" !!  bounce/ bounce/

Then here's My Weird List about James Brown's death

(http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/43/jamesbrowncoincidences.jpg)

Then we have Lady Diana, very connected to Michael and now I see some eery connections to Whitney's death too!! And there are more things about Lady Diana's death that make me doubt she really died in '97.
To me everything just fits perfectly in this genius puzzle!

Then I also mentioned Frank Dileo & Liz Taylor. Their deaths are MORE than suspect one after another!!! so quickly after Michael! Even their death-dates blatantly suggest this "coincidental" CONSECUTIVE dying!
Liz died on the 23rd
Frank died on the 24th
Michael died on the 25th
SORRY , but this is not accidental!


(http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/4160/mjjamesbrownmontaj002.jpg)

(http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/2624/mjjamesbrownmontaj005.jpg)

(http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/9008/mjjamesbrownmontaj004a.jpg)

(http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/4175/parisjackson1109046.jpg)
!!! ERROR CORRECTION (sorry!): Paris's speech was the 7th July and not on the 7th of September as I wrongfully marked in this photo...
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: MichaelsAngel on February 16, 2012, 11:10:09 AM
 I'm more focused on the differences between Michael and Whitney's deaths. The differences in how long they tried resuscitation, the differences in how long before burial and the differences in reactions of close friends. To me, it makes Michael's death look more like a hoax while Whitney's looks more real.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 16, 2012, 11:24:21 AM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKTWrIGQLeQ[/youtube]

Michael Jackson's grim fascination with death, odd 5-hour vigil over James Brown
Read this article! There are 2 pages...  -  http://articles.nydailynews.com/2009-06-28/news/17925847_1_charles-reid-james-brown-michael-jackson

Quote from the article: "Jackson also inquired about the coffin and how it was chosen. "He wanted to go into our casket room," Reid said. Reid showed him various models. Jackson did not say so, but Reid could not help feeling that the star was contemplating his own demise, studying Brown in death as intently as he had in life."He asked who requested the gold-plated casket," Reid said. "I said, 'Well, it's the family's decision.' He asked if that's something Mr. Brown wanted. I said, 'Entertainers, they always say solid gold.'" Jackson laughed and they returned to the chapel." -


(http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/7593/elvisjb.jpg)

You can read about more similarities between Elvis & James Brown, here in this article: http://www.elvisinfonet.com/spotlight_james_brown.html
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"James Brown said of Elvis,
"I wasn’t just a fan, I was his brother. Last time I saw Elvis alive was at Graceland. We sang ‘Old Blind Barnabus’ together, a gospel song. I love him and hope to see him in heaven. There’ll never be another like that soul brother."

There were many similarities to Elvis' and James Brown's lives and over the years they were friends. Both Elvis and James Brown were born in impoverished circumstances in Southern USA absorbing their musical influences from the cotton picking and farming lands around them. They both hit the ‘big time’ in 1956 and both had major chart "comebacks" in early sixties pre-Beatles. James Brown even appeared in a lightweight sixties film 'Ski Party.'

(http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/8271/28347919878206684548519.jpg)
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Tink on February 16, 2012, 12:06:14 PM
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The industry is  killing our super novas!  There has to be an investigation.  It's crucial.

There's nothing to investigate. Whitney had started drinking around 10:00 AM, at 2 bars around the pool. IMHO, they should've said NO!
I don't comprehend how we as a responsible community can serve alcohol so early to people, who've been drinking to at least 3:00 AM!
THIS is part of the issue. Bars shouldn't start serving alcohol, until 2:00 PM, and light alcohol like beer & wine, and ONLY with food ordered.

Human beings are responsible for themselves. But bartenders are indeed the first line of defense, at a hotel.

I also object to using the word, "Supernova," for this means we should enable their alcohol & drug habit. Well, guess what? This KILLS THEM,
because everyone's afraid to say, "NO," to them, or be fired!!

This needs to be legislated, to be blunt; standing up to addicts, and refusing to be co-dependents should be highly prized in this society.
For if it were so - we'd have an awful lot dead people in the world today - and I'm talking about EVERY DAY PEOPLE who are Addicts!

Addiction needs to be treated by doctors, not by specialty clinics. This is why the entire system doesn't work! Only the rich can afford
to go to the clinics. Yet, the clinics themselves aren't run by doctors! Addictions specialist Doctors, who treat this like any other ILLNESS,
are who are going to save Addicts. Mark my words. Toss them in with normal people for therapy, strip them of their specialness while
in treatment - and they have a chance!
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: RK on February 16, 2012, 12:36:35 PM
Has anyone posted this interview from Chaka Khan yet? She talks about the demonic music industry that steals a performer's essence.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GswwcIqYQvM&feature=related[/youtube]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GswwcIqYQvM&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GswwcIqYQvM&feature=related)
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: hesouttamylife on February 16, 2012, 12:57:45 PM
 :roll:  I don't care if you object to the word super nova.   I mean seriously.  You don't get to make that choice. 

My concern is not whether Whitney was drinking all evening or not.  You don't seem to get that.  I am not only concerned with the tragedy that allegedly befell her, but all the Whitney Houstons in the business.  There IS SOMETHING WRONG.  Simply because you fail to see it doesn't make it any less obvious to anyone who is willing to look beyond the facade.  I don't mince my words when I am passionate about something.  This just happens to fall into that category.

As long as society is content to see things through tunnel vision, nothing will ever change.  Nothing fuels a fire better than the aire of complacency.   Get to the source, that's where the problems lie.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: ilovemjforever on February 16, 2012, 01:37:41 PM
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:roll:  I don't care if you object to the word super nova.   I mean seriously.  You don't get to make that choice. 

My concern is not whether Whitney was drinking all evening or not.  You don't seem to get that.  I am not only concerned with the tragedy that allegedly befell her, but all the Whitney Houstons in the business.  There IS SOMETHING WRONG.  Simply because you fail to see it doesn't make it any less obvious to anyone who is willing to look beyond the facade.  I don't mince my words when I am passionate about something.  This just happens to fall into that category.

As long as society is content to see things through tunnel vision, nothing will ever change.  Nothing fuels a fire better than the aire of complacency.   Get to the source, that's where the problems lie.
I agree 1000% with this post.Why is it so hard to see how the industry and media works.It is so blatantly obvious that these celebrity's are dying in very similar ways.They all cant be addicts,and if they are,then there has to be an even sinister reason why.This topic reminds me of the post that back made when he said celebrity's death use to be by the bullet,now they have changed their ways because people were becoming suspicious.Well guess what history is starting to repeat itself,and now this pattern that they are currently using is starting to become suspicious.Do they think everyone is still asleep.I am feed up,i tell u.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: paula-c on February 16, 2012, 01:55:36 PM
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:roll:  I don't care if you object to the word super nova.   I mean seriously.  You don't get to make that choice. 

My concern is not whether Whitney was drinking all evening or not.  You don't seem to get that.  I am not only concerned with the tragedy that allegedly befell her, but all the Whitney Houstons in the business.  There IS SOMETHING WRONG.  Simply because you fail to see it doesn't make it any less obvious to anyone who is willing to look beyond the facade.  I don't mince my words when I am passionate about something.  This just happens to fall into that category.

As long as society is content to see things through tunnel vision, nothing will ever change.  Nothing fuels a fire better than the aire of complacency.   Get to the source, that's where the problems lie.






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Why don’t we see Stephen Spielberg overdosing on cocaine?  Surely he’s tried the stuff before.   We all know who he is and he’s made much more money than Whitney or Michael.  How come he can ‘handle it’ and Whitney can’t?  Or Michael can’t?


Why isn’t Quincy Jones getting bad reviews and trashed in the press?  He’s black and rich, but no. Instead he gets invited to the World Economic Summit.  They need him to continue to buy souls for the cause.



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Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: katy (MJFAN7) on February 16, 2012, 02:06:15 PM
Anyone have any opinions on this --> http://www.vice.com/read/whitney-houston-was-killed-so-that-blue-ivy-carter-could-live-jay-z-beyonce

I dont really agree with it, but I want your opinions..Read all of it before you reply please. :?
Title: Re: Whitney had 2 drinks around 10 AM, before NOON day she died NOT normal
Post by: Tink on February 16, 2012, 02:16:55 PM
Excuse me, you all seemed to miss the most important point! Forget semantics -

She started drinking BEFORE NOON! She'd already socked two drinks away, by 10AM, from two different bars, by the pools!

You most certainly cannot tell me that is NORMAL behavior. THIS is what helped contribute to her death, along with an overly hot bath.
THIS isn't normal behavior for anyone.

So many of you are caught up in satanic conspiracies, which is why I knocked her off her pedestal a bit, humanizing her - showing that
she started to make mistakes that led to her dead IN THE MORNING!

Supernovas self-immolate.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: applehead250609 on February 16, 2012, 03:03:36 PM
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I'm more focused on the differences between Michael and Whitney's deaths. The differences in how long they tried resuscitation, the differences in how long before burial and the differences in reactions of close friends. To me, it makes Michael's death look more like a hoax while Whitney's looks more real.

MichaelsAngel I'm with you on this ,thank you very much for bringing this up  bearhug !!!

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Excuse me, you all seemed to miss the most important point! Forget semantics -

She started drinking BEFORE NOON! She'd already socked two drinks away, by 10AM, from two different bars, by the pools!

You most certainly cannot tell me that is NORMAL behavior. THIS is what helped contribute to her death, along with an overly hot bath.
THIS isn't normal behavior for anyone.

So many of you are caught up in satanic conspiracies, which is why I knocked her off her pedestal a bit, humanizing her - showing that
she started to make mistakes that led to her dead IN THE MORNING!

Supernovas self-immolate.

Tink,of course she was human ,just the way Michael was all his life  :( .But sometimes because of a misterious aura "CREATED " intentional or non-intentional by the staff or people around them (or in Michael's case by him ,lol  lolol/ ) makes them look like they are super-humans  :roll: .But they are not and they use bathroom just the way we use it ,lol  :lol: .
Regarding the satanic conspiracies or the "other guys"  /white flag/ ,I prefer to not comment this time and I hope you will understand,thank you  :( .Take care  bearhug .
Title: Re: Whitney had 2 drinks around 10 AM, before NOON day she died NOT normal
Post by: ilovemjforever on February 16, 2012, 03:44:43 PM
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Excuse me, you all seemed to miss the most important point! Forget semantics -

She started drinking BEFORE NOON! She'd already socked two drinks away, by 10AM, from two different bars, by the pools!

You most certainly cannot tell me that is NORMAL behavior. THIS is what helped contribute to her death, along with an overly hot bath.
THIS isn't normal behavior for anyone.

So many of you are caught up in satanic conspiracies, which is why I knocked her off her pedestal a bit, humanizing her - showing that
she started to make mistakes that led to her dead IN THE MORNING!

Supernovas self-immolate.
Tink i respect your opinion and all,but let me ask you something.Do you believe everything that the Media reports.How do we know she had two drinks before 10AM?How do we know her bath water was to hot?The point is we do not know,cause we were not there.The Media,are full of shit,and i take everything they report with a grain of salt.So i have learned to use my own judgement,and ask myself what i believe happened.You cannot deny that there is a pattern that's trending with the latest celebrity deaths.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: diggyon on February 16, 2012, 04:04:02 PM
Of course Whitney's death is very suspicious. I think we all agree that  Michael is good at numerology and he knows so much about the music industry and the Illuminaty. I think he can know when a human sacrifice will take place and which artist will be on the sacrifice list according to artist's age!!!! Wouldn't Michaels - according to everything he knows - warn the srtists of shat is going to happen to them? As I learned here on that threat that Whitney was a good friend of Michael. Wouldn't he warn her it he knows that something might happen to her???? If I were him I wouldn't just sit back and watch my friends get killed one by one if I know it previously!!!! That's not Michael. This is the only thing that makes me think that Whitney might have been saved although her death seems so real ! ! !   
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: blankie on February 16, 2012, 04:08:58 PM
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Okay, I'm not saying (YET) that this is a hoax, but this story is one hell of a deja-vu...

You know, MJ's working on a real life Thriller, he needs more 'zombies' than just himself. Some of these recent deaths are too weird. And why is there still no info about LiLo's movie 'Escaping the Game' that is set to be released in just a couple of months? Am I totally crazy, or is there a long list of celebs that really 'escaped the game' in order to expose some shit? I will wait it out for a few more days, but there is something going on with Whitney's death, something's off. I have this huge list in my head with celebs I think faked their deaths, and I am afraid Whitney's on it too now. Maybe I'm crazy, maybe this is even bigger than just MJ. Let's HOPE so.

I have to think about this, can't handle another hoax, lol.

I don't know if  Whitney's death is a hoax....but above all...I'm here for Michael.
If Whitney is alive (I have many doubts still) I would be happy, but my personal only interest in a hoax is for Michael's hoax, as  in these  last 3 years...  michael-jackson/
Whitney  has all my respect as a professional and as a woman, she deserves it all,  and if she made ​​the choice to disappear or had to do, I wish her every happiness in the world...but I  will follow Michael , only Michael with all my L.O.V.E. forever.  moonwalk_/


Love you all.....so much. bearhug


Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: ilovemjforever on February 16, 2012, 04:09:55 PM
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Of course Whitney's death is very suspicious. I think we all agree that  Michael is good at numerology and he knows so much about the music industry and the Illuminaty. I think he can know when a human sacrifice will take place and which artist will be on the sacrifice list according to artist's age!!!! Wouldn't Michaels - according to everything he knows - warn the srtists of shat is going to happen to them? As I learned here on that threat that Whitney was a good friend of Michael. Wouldn't he warn her it he knows that something might happen to her???? If I were him I wouldn't just sit back and watch my friends get killed one by one if I know it previously!!!! That's not Michael. This is the only thing that makes me think that Whitney might have been saved although her death seems so real ! ! !
I like the way you think,and i really can see Michael,warning Whitney,and maybe she was saved.I agree here death does seem real.I am certain of one thing,if she really is gone,it was not because of natural causes.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: MJonmind on February 16, 2012, 04:13:52 PM
SimPattyK
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This is also used to serve as an example of how the masses are fooled by the media. This theory perfectly fits with the theory that Michael is behind this!
I’m also even more leaning to it being God behind this as well. He is the master storyteller. You’ve already stated in another post how the numerology involved everywhere with deaths and stories for so long, is so intertwined it is impossible for Illuminati as smart as they are, to be able to pull this all off.  I think there are forces at work here, that are beyond TPTB’s most clever work. They may be thinking they can take credit for some of it, but I think they are being swept along by a river force as powerful as the earth’s revolving, and orbiting around the sun.  We are moving along in history, and I believe events are fulfilling Revelation in ways that boggle the mind (as the video the gwynned just gave the link to, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzFElz0T-3A&feature=player_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzFElz0T-3A&feature=player_embedded)  , shows). 


We are all in this river, and MJ is being used by God, and God has called him to be a leader, and enabled him at this precise time in HIS-story.  Here again is Rev. 17:16-18
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16And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.
17For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled.
18And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.

Bec if you're reading, here’s a great article for you, which site you might approve of, and I heartily agree with in some but not all ways.  http://atheistbiblestudy.blogspot.com/2004/07/is-god-evil.html (http://atheistbiblestudy.blogspot.com/2004/07/is-god-evil.html)  I agree that God is the source and creator of ‘evil’ (suffering and death), but I disagree that that makes God evil, and Satan good just for trying to oppose him.  I believe God is the Creator of all matter, out of nothing, and creating an idealic garden of Eden, with naked innocent child-like forever humans, was not his plan.

Gwynned

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It was suggested to me some time ago that Lady Diana faked her death by someone whom I respect, so I am open (hopeful!) about the possibility.  Perhaps Michael will appear with his 'star family' behind him and bring them all back to life, like in 'Ghosts.'
Yes, it was said that Michael wanted each of the ‘ghosts’ behind him dancing to be real historical characters.I think we should keep out eyes and ears open, also our middle eye, if ya know what I mean.  "Is it scary for you baby?"


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Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: applehead250609 on February 16, 2012, 06:09:12 PM
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By DAVID WEINER
February 16, 2012


Whitney Houston had a very close connection to Michael Jackson, and ironically the pair had even more in common with their sudden, tragic deaths at almost the same exact age.
Now, ET has obtained a copy of a tribute to Whitney by the Jackson Estate that is running in trade magazines, the Los Angeles Times and Whitney's hometown paper, the Newark Star Ledger, on Saturday, the day of her funeral.
Above the image of a single, perfect rose, the ad reads simply "Whitney," then below it, "In loving memory of her majestic voice, her radiant beauty and the magic she created on stage."


http://www.etonline.com/news/119099_Michael_Jackson_s_Posthumous_Tribute_to_Whitney/index.html (http://www.etonline.com/news/119099_Michael_Jackson_s_Posthumous_Tribute_to_Whitney/index.html)




Kevin Costner to speak at Whitney's Funeral
By Anne Marie Cruz and Stephen M. Silverman
Thursday February 16, 2012 11:50 AM EST

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Kevin Costner, the leading man who costarred with Whitney Houston in her greatest movie hit, The Bodyguard, is planning to speak at her funeral this weekend, a family source tells PEOPLE.

In addition, both Aretha Franklin and Stevie Wonder will sing at the service, and Houston's record producer from the very beginning of her career, Clive Davis, will also speak, Whitney's rep confirms.

According to the source, "Whitney's family is devastated, but they're getting through it."

In addition, says the source, "Clive has been a complete rock for her family this entire time. He's been with her since the beginning, and he's been everything to them. They're leaning on him for emotional support. He talks to them hourly, and he's a very big part in planning her funeral. Clive has been a constant presence for them. They're thanking God for Clive."

As the rep told PEOPLE earlier, Houston's invitation-only funeral will take place Saturday at noon at the New Hope Baptist Church in Newark, N.J., where the pop queen's powerful voice was first heard in the choir.

Costner, now 57, and Houston costarred in her movie debut, 1992's The Bodyguard, in which she sang "I Will Always Love You." Houston played a music star threatened by a stalker, and Costner played a former Secret Service agent who protects and falls in love with her. The movie made more than $400 million at the box office.

Houston, 48, was found dead Saturday in the bathtub of her suite at the Beverly Hilton Hotel, and her body was returned to New Jersey on Tuesday.

http://www.people.com/people/package/article/0,,20569493_20570875,00.html (http://www.people.com/people/package/article/0,,20569493_20570875,00.html)

Kevin Costner on Whitney Houston - 2009
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYq_EywkSMU&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]

Kevin waited for Whitney for a year ,wow  :shock: !!! Such a gentleman  :-* .
"I kissed her once for everybody in America, and I kissed her once for myself." Awww  :)  :oops:  :'( !!!!
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: paula-c on February 16, 2012, 06:09:29 PM
Glee’ Tribute to Whitney Houston Is Cool But Creepy (LISTEN)
Posted by Emily Abbate on February 13, 2012 at 4:37 PM

Ready to be a little spooked? On tomorrow night's episode of Glee, "Heart," Mercedes (Amber Riley) is singing Whitney Houston's iconic track from The Bodyguard, "I Will Always Love You." The eerie part? This was scripted prior to Houston's passing, as a total coincidence.

The producers of Glee decided to keep the song in the episode and, as a tribute Whitney, are dedicating the Valentine's Day episode to her with a card at the end of the credits.

Just wait, though, until you hear how amazing Amber Riley's voice sounds on the track. Trust me, if you didn't have goosebumps already -- you will in about 30 seconds.

I'm genuinely excited to see how the cast pulls this one off during the episode, and happy that the head honchos over at FOX decided to keep the track as is. Plus, Amber has an amazing voice, and in my mind -- there's no one at McKinley High that can do this classic number the way she can.

Whitney Houston will forever be a huge part of music and an inspiration to many. Just like Jennifer Hudson's tearjerking performance at last night's Grammy Awards, the Glee tribute will give credit where it's due: To one of the most fantastic voices of a generation.

What do you think of Amber's version of "I Will Always Love You"?

Listen to Amber's rendition of "I Will Always Love You" here:


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqzHwyS6Eso&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]










So good, isn't it?

http://thestir.cafemom.com/entertainment/132981/glee_tribute_to_whitney_houston?next=11
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Dontwalkaway on February 16, 2012, 06:28:29 PM
I am just watching right now.  There are so many coincidences, connections, and things that seem to  be "instant replay".  It would be the most amazing thing if Michael, Elvis, Whitney, and others came back together !!!!!!  I think most of the world would stop and finally listen !!   We'll see ?!

I'm gonna keep watchin !!!!


Love You All


Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: katy (MJFAN7) on February 16, 2012, 08:54:38 PM
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I am just watching right now.  There are so many coincidences, connections, and things that seem to  be "instant replay".  It would be the most amazing thing if Michael, Elvis, Whitney, and others came back together !!!!!!  I think most of the world would stop and finally listen !!   We'll see ?!

I'm gonna keep watchin !!!!


Love You All




Wow.. that would be amazing! The thought is tripping me out :lol:

I hope Elizabeth Taylor is still alive then, too. That would really make my life complete!! But, sadly, I think she has passed along with Whitney. :cry: Hope not though.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Andrea on February 16, 2012, 10:00:04 PM
Whitney Houston Private Viewing Set for TOMORROW

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Whitney Houston's family has scheduled a private viewing for tomorrow at the funeral home where the singer's body is currently being held ... TMZ has learned.

Sources tell TMZ, the viewing at Whigham Funeral home in Newark, New Jersey is invite only ... with an EXTREMELY tight guest list.

We're told Bobbi Kristina will be there -- it will be the first time she's seen her mother since she passed.

Sources say the family wanted to have a special moment together without cameras around ... and that's why the decision was made to have a viewing the day before the funeral.

TMZ broke the story ... Bobbi tried to get into her mother's Beverly Hilton hotel room the day she died -- but was denied access by law enforcement.

Whitney's funeral is still scheduled for Saturday at the New Hope Baptist Church in Newark.

http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/16/whitney-houston-private-viewing/



 suspicious//  Considering there was a discussion here yesterday(?) about the Jackson's use of the term "passed" instead of "died", I thought TMZ's wording here was...interesting...
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: scorpionchik on February 16, 2012, 11:13:02 PM

Grace on 'Wild Speculation' About Houston Death

Nancy Grace explains her controversial comments concerning the singer's death.

http://gma.yahoo.com/video/music-26594262/grace-on-wild-speculation-about-houston-death-28331221.html#crsl=%252Fvideo%252Fmusic-26594262%252Fgrace-on-wild-speculation-about-houston-death-28331221.html
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: scorpionchik on February 16, 2012, 11:16:03 PM
Whitney Houston's Family Plans Private Funeral
Doctors under investigation.

http://gma.yahoo.com/video/music-26594262/whitney-houston-s-family-plans-private-funeral-28318185.html#crsl=%252Fvideo%252Fmusic-26594262%252Fwhitney-houston-s-family-plans-private-funeral-28318185.html


RIP Whitney. It's vefy sad.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: msgitm on February 16, 2012, 11:19:22 PM
Anyone see Oprah’s “Remembering Whitney” tonight on OWN?  She aired her 09 interview and made present day comments.  Lots more in the interview than what I saw on YT.  It made me wonder even more if something is going on.  Whitney at one point said “the best is yet to come”, and how tight her and “Mike” were.  Yet… she laughed many times when talking about when he “PASSED”.  AGAIN with that word... and AGAIN with laughing!!!  At the end of the special Oprah said “now you know we will always love you” then she winked in the camera.  I could get the “always love you” line but what’s up with the wink?
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: msgitm on February 16, 2012, 11:23:17 PM
btw - I also read her funeral will be live streamed on the net.  wth?   
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: MJonmind on February 17, 2012, 04:06:27 AM
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Anyone see Oprah’s “Remembering Whitney” tonight on OWN?  She aired her 09 interview and made present day comments.  Lots more in the interview than what I saw on YT.  It made me wonder even more if something is going on.  Whitney at one point said “the best is yet to come”, and how tight her and “Mike” were.  Yet… she laughed many times when talking about when he “PASSED”.  AGAIN with that word... and AGAIN with laughing!!!  At the end of the special Oprah said “now you know we will always love you” then she winked in the camera.  I could get the “always love you” line but what’s up with the wink?
Aha!  More for the hoax side!
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: alfarle on February 17, 2012, 04:34:10 AM
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Of course Whitney's death is very suspicious. I think we all agree that  Michael is good at numerology and he knows so much about the music industry and the Illuminaty. I think he can know when a human sacrifice will take place and which artist will be on the sacrifice list according to artist's age!!!! Wouldn't Michaels - according to everything he knows - warn the srtists of shat is going to happen to them? As I learned here on that threat that Whitney was a good friend of Michael. Wouldn't he warn her it he knows that something might happen to her???? If I were him I wouldn't just sit back and watch my friends get killed one by one if I know it previously!!!! That's not Michael. This is the only thing that makes me think that Whitney might have been saved although her death seems so real ! ! !
I like the way you think,and i really can see Michael,warning Whitney,and maybe she was saved.I agree here death does seem real.I am certain of one thing,if she really is gone,it was not because of natural causes.


Someone brought this point up earlier yesterday as far as numerology goes:
2+11+12(2012)= yet another 25.... Quite strange right?

Besides that, as far as inconsistencies go, why is it that Nancy Grace on HLN reported yesterday evening that Whitney was found on a WET FLOOR dead...rather than in the bathtub like it was reported when news first broke out that Whitney Houton was dead? Which one was it? Inside the bathtub, or on the floor?
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: gwynned on February 17, 2012, 08:04:49 AM
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Of course Whitney's death is very suspicious. I think we all agree that  Michael is good at numerology and he knows so much about the music industry and the Illuminaty. I think he can know when a human sacrifice will take place and which artist will be on the sacrifice list according to artist's age!!!! Wouldn't Michaels - according to everything he knows - warn the srtists of shat is going to happen to them? As I learned here on that threat that Whitney was a good friend of Michael. Wouldn't he warn her it he knows that something might happen to her???? If I were him I wouldn't just sit back and watch my friends get killed one by one if I know it previously!!!! That's not Michael. This is the only thing that makes me think that Whitney might have been saved although her death seems so real ! ! !
I like the way you think,and i really can see Michael,warning Whitney,and maybe she was saved.I agree here death does seem real.I am certain of one thing,if she really is gone,it was not because of natural causes.


Someone brought this point up earlier yesterday as far as numerology goes:
2+11+12(2012)= yet another 25.... Quite strange right?

Besides that, as far as inconsistencies go, why is it that Nancy Grace on HLN reported yesterday evening that Whitney was found on a WET FLOOR dead...rather than in the bathtub like it was reported when news first broke out that Whitney Houton was dead? Which one was it? Inside the bathtub, or on the floor?

It's getting too predictable, isn't it.  Contradictory reports, Janet smiling when she talks about people close to her dying, TMZ getting the 'scoop.'  Hard to mistake the signature.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: msgitm on February 17, 2012, 10:31:15 AM
Now her funeral is being televised on HNL and probably ALL major networks. Whitney said she liked her privacy so why would the family do this?  It's hard enough to lose a loved one, especially for children, but in front of the world?  I wonder if Bobbi Kristina will be wearing an earpiece?
Also, why is Kevin Costner speaking?  Yes they did a movie 16 years ago but were they friends after that?  I'm sure there's a lot of people closer to Whitney that could speak instead, imo.  This story has me going hmmm...
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 17, 2012, 11:14:48 AM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceEHQaFLxf4&feature=channel[/youtube]
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: ilovemjforever on February 17, 2012, 11:49:17 AM
A lot of great posts being made.This is starting to resemble Michaels case more and more.I want to think it was a hoax,but i am skeptical,it would have been difficult for her to pull off,because of all the people in the hotel that night.Dont u think Clive Davis and company,wanted to view her body before,she was carried out.Another thing has me wondering,she look like she was putting on weight.Was Whitney Pregnant?
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 17, 2012, 12:08:37 PM
SOURCE LINKS: http://mjhoaxlive.blogspot.com/2012/02/whitney-houston-yes-jesus-loves-me.html
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151306964025545&set=o.166081402401&type=1&ref=nf

(http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/7880/whitney000102.jpg)
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 17, 2012, 12:58:24 PM
(http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/2103/image4ei.jpg)

http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/17/whitney-houston-funeral-invitation-photo/#.Tz6gV1FWp3D

Here's the official Whitney Houston invitation ... and  Whitney's family is not referring to the singer's burial ceremony as a "funeral" ... but rather a "home going service."
The invite -- obtained by TMZ -- reads, "With heartfelt gratitude, the Houston Family requests the honor of your presence at the home going service for Whitney Elizabeth Houston."

A "home going" service is more common in the black community and is usually more upbeat and positive than a typical funeral. The focus is to honor the deceased as they go "home" to Heaven to be with God.
As we previously reported, the ceremony at The New Hope Baptist Church in Newark, NJ will be a very exclusive affair ... with a guest list hand-selected by Whitney's family.

The event will begin at 12:00 PM EST -- with several of Houston's famous friends expected to participate in the service ... including Kevin Costner, Stevie Wonder and Aretha Franklin.



Whitney Houston funeral to be live-streamed for fans at home
http://www.freep.com/article/20120216/ENT07/120216006



Whitney Houston's Funeral: "Totally Opposite" of Michael Jackson's
Read more: http://uk.eonline.com/news/marc_malkin/whitney_houstons_funeral_totally/295046#ixzz1mfOuZ8zn
Quote
[....]
While Houston's death is often compared to that of Michael Jackson's, her family wants nothing like the spectacle that surrounded the King of Pop's funeral. "The family said, look we've given Whitney to the world our whole lives," Quarles said. "This is going to be her final resting and we want her to go out with her family and friends and for it to be a celebration of her life."
Sounds like the perfect plan to us.


FUNNY how ELVIS also had a last "visit" to his DENTIST just one day before his "death"!! ;)

(http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/2905/image6cv.jpg)

Both family and law enforcement sources tell TMZ ... Whitney was recording the title track to "Sparkle" and got a sore throat ... so she went to a doctor to get it checked out. We're told the doctor gave Whitney an Rx for Amoxicillin.   
Whitney was also scheduled to film a commercial for her sister-in-law's candle line, so she went to a dentist twice to get her teeth whitened and cleaned.

And law enforcement sources have reiterated to TMZ ... Whitney was NOT doctor shopping for prescriptions and they believe none of the doctors crossed the line in their treatment of her.
As we first reported, Beverly Hills cops retrieved 6 medication bottles in Whitney's room, including Xanax and Amoxicillin. She also had Midol and ibuprofen.

And as we reported, it is increasingly looking like Whitney mixed Xanax and alcohol before getting in the tub, and that she may have died from a reaction to the drugs ... not from drowning.
http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/17/whitney-houston-doctor-sore-throat-teeth-whitening-dentist/#.Tz6ig1FWp3A
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: mindseye on February 17, 2012, 01:03:06 PM

One thing for sure, Michael would've been invited if alive. Wonder if any Jacksons are attending- he would want to be there. I'll be looking for hatman  mj_dance/
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Tink on February 17, 2012, 01:08:51 PM
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I am just watching right now.  There are so many coincidences, connections, and things that seem to  be "instant replay".  It would be the most amazing thing if Michael, Elvis, Whitney, and others came back together !!!!!!  I think most of the world would stop and finally listen !!   We'll see ?!

I'm gonna keep watchin !!!!


Love You All




Wow.. that would be amazing! The thought is tripping me out :lol:

I hope Elizabeth Taylor is still alive then, too. That would really make my life complete!! But, sadly, I think she has passed along with Whitney. :cry: Hope not though.

Elizabeth Taylor had a bad heart problem. She's passed.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 17, 2012, 01:17:07 PM
From Pearl Jr. twitter:
WTF???!!! The National Enquirer Put Up A FAKE WHITNEY HOUSTON DEATH PIC
 On The COVER Of This Week's Magazine!!!

http://cdn.mediatakeout.com/54243/wtf-the-national-enquirer-put-up-a-fake-whitney-houston-death-pic-on-the-cover-of-this-week-s-magazine.html

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"Glee" Covers Whitney Houston Days After Death
http://www.toofab.com/2012/02/15/glee-whitney-houston-i-will-always-love-you-video/


Bobby Brown Officially Invited to Whitney Houston's Funeral
http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/16/bobby-brown-invited-whitney-houston-funeral/#.Tz6l71FWp3A


This news is not connected to Whitney...but hey Watch out the title!! and the fragment quoted below:
Scott Storch Arrested for Coke in Vegas [UPDATE]
http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/16/scott-storch-arrested-cocaine/#.Tz6ma1FWp3A
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[....]
Storch -- who has worked with stars like Beyoncé, 50 Cent, Dr. Dre, Snoop, Pink and more -- famously blew a $30 million fortune after getting hooked on drugs back in 2006. He eventually checked into rehab and has been working on his recovery ever since.  [....]

This video is also not connected to Whitney.
or.... maybe?? look at the title! there's something going on with CELEBRITIES lately!!!
Anyway I love TMZ for having done this! lmao  :lol: :lol: :lol:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqjiKuGezBo&feature=youtu.be[/youtube]
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: msgitm on February 17, 2012, 01:27:21 PM
Another note regarding Oprah's “Remembering Whitney” special.  Whitney stated in detail how her father's death was so heartbreaking that she wanted to grieve in private, so she held her own private service the night before his funeral.  She went on to say that she didn't attend his actual funeral because it was such a personal and private matter.  His funeral was not televised.  So I ask again, why would the Houston family air her funeral on TV when they know very well how Whitney felt about privacy during times like this.  If she couldn't attend her own father's funeral what makes them think Bobbi Kristina can attend her mother's... with the whole world watching! 
Still wondering why Oprah winked in the camera.  To me it was as though she was winking at Whitney watching the show. Anyone else see it?
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 17, 2012, 01:43:30 PM
From Pearl Jr.'s twitter:
Jerm's song dedicated 2 Whitney uploaded Sept 26, 2011 DEDICATING SONG 2 A WOMAN THAT'S ALIVE when he's married-Eerie - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PoJhHAxYYw

So Jerm, there's no such thing as coincidences huh?? Well, isn't this one or . . .Well well well-Keep Michaeling! - http://www.24-7pressrelease.com/press-release-rss/jermaine-jackson-releases-whitney-houston-dedication-song-263250.php



PAUL McCARTNEY Pays His Respects to Whitney
http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/13/paul-mccartney-whitney-houston-memorial/#.Tz6tHFFWp3A
he brought her YELLOW flowers !! Again: YELLOW flowers!



Mel Gibson Invited to Whitney's Funeral ... He Tried to Save Her
http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/17/mel-gibson-invited-whitney-houstons-funeral/#.Tz6rhVFWp3B
Mel Gibson was invited to Whitney Houston's funeral ... and the family extended the invite
because Mel tried to help the singer during a very dark period in her life ... TMZ has learned.
Sources tell us ... several years ago, when Whitney was about as bad off with drugs and alcohol as she ever was, Mel quietly intervened and spent a lot of time with her, trying to help her break the addiction cycle.
We're told Whitney's family is "extremely appreciative" and wanted Mel at tomorrow's funeral, but because of family plans he can't attend.

Whitney Houston's Aunt The Lady Who Tried to Save Her
http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/13/whitney-houston-aunt-mary-jones/#.Tz6tGlFWp3A



^^ The last 2 titles from above reminded me of this title:
'I wish I'd saved him': Lisa Marie Presley speaks for the first time about Michael Jackson's death
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1322740/Michael-Jacksons-death-Lisa-Marie-Presley-speaks-time.html#ixzz1mfa9WVxI
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: LoveShyMichael on February 17, 2012, 02:09:52 PM
There's nothing to investigate. Whitney had started drinking around 10:00 AM, at 2 bars around the pool. IMHO, they should've said NO!
I don't comprehend how we as a responsible community can serve alcohol so early to people, who've been drinking to at least 3:00 AM!
THIS is part of the issue. Bars shouldn't start serving alcohol, until 2:00 PM, and light alcohol like beer & wine, and ONLY with food ordered.

Human beings are responsible for themselves. But bartenders are indeed the first line of defense, at a hotel.

I also object to using the word, "Supernova," for this means we should enable their alcohol & drug habit. Well, guess what? This KILLS THEM,
because everyone's afraid to say, "NO," to them, or be fired!!


Well for one, a bartender doesn't know what time an addict started drinking at. Just because someone is acting funny, doesn't always mean they are under the influence of more alcohol.

That person may have a disability, which could mimic being drunk.

If Whitney was mixing alcohol & her prescription drugs, how would the bartender even know what her prescription drugs is going to intefere with the alcohol the bartender is serving.

The "circle" of friends have the biggest impact on, as long she continues with the same circle of friends, they are either nuturning her behavior, or they are either part of the solution or part of the problem.

Just because Whitney "looked" good on the outside doesn't mean that her inside organs aren't riddled with health issues.

I'm not a bartender & never have been, but I know some people's disabilities have simiiar symptoms of being intoxicated.

I feel Whitney's cocktail of BIG PHARMA drugs was the ultimate death for her.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: MJonmind on February 17, 2012, 02:35:02 PM
I feel like I'm all hoaxed out.  Michael's is enough for me. But thanks for all the interesting finds, everyone! Something's going down in Hollywood--either a battle between good and evil, or a collective project under MJ's leadership.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: LoveShyMichael on February 17, 2012, 02:53:11 PM
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I feel like I'm all hoaxed out.  Michael's is enough for me. But thanks for all the interesting finds, everyone! Something's going down in Hollywood--either a battle between good and evil, or a collective project under MJ's leadership.

I don't have any doubt Michael hoaxed his death, but I find it it's kind of getting bizarre to think that Michael has that much power over every death of a celebrity to think that this is part of his plan.

As much as I want to believe Whitney is alive, I feel the grieving of Whitney was too REAL to fake. Yes, TMZ always seems to be the pipeline for the celebrity deaths, sometimes I think they are just feeding people a lines of lies to keep the "dumbed down American's" on distracting what's really happening in the world.

I mean, TMZ is mainstream media folks.

BIG PHARMA CLAIMED ANOTHER VICTIM..... Sad.....but true.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: katy (MJFAN7) on February 17, 2012, 03:11:20 PM
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I am just watching right now.  There are so many coincidences, connections, and things that seem to  be "instant replay".  It would be the most amazing thing if Michael, Elvis, Whitney, and others came back together !!!!!!  I think most of the world would stop and finally listen !!   We'll see ?!

I'm gonna keep watchin !!!!


Love You All




Wow.. that would be amazing! The thought is tripping me out :lol:

I hope Elizabeth Taylor is still alive then, too. That would really make my life complete!! But, sadly, I think she has passed along with Whitney. :cry: Hope not though.

Elizabeth Taylor had a bad heart problem. She's passed.

Yes, I realize that.. I was just going along with what Dontwalkaway said.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: blankie on February 17, 2012, 03:14:44 PM
I think it's very strange that in a period in which all have a mobile with camera, there is not a waiter , a hotel staff person who live with a normal salary,  has done a photo of Whitney dead...... sell it means to change completely the  life ....the same thing I think about Michael...( there are not a nurese, a paramedic who took a picture on June 25 ?).
But whatever,  for Whitney I hope she is happy  wherever  she is.....
I'm here now and forever for Michael...from June 2009 to eternity   michael-jackson/......if there is something to know ,in one way or another he will make us understand something....

L.O.V.E.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: LoveShyMichael on February 17, 2012, 03:24:34 PM
I love this site for the sake of Michael Jackson hoaxing his death. I loved Whitney Houston for what she was as a woman, muisc, voice, & above all....a mother. But we also have to be realistic about what is really associated with Michael & his reason for hoaxing HIS DEATH.

I'm already getting confused now with all Whitney's death, or mixing it in with Michael's.

My take on Whitney....she did die, accidently, but died.

I wish I felt she didn't, but my gut tells me, nope.........she died!

Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 17, 2012, 03:25:41 PM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8XoOVvej8g&feature=g-all-f&context=G23762e6FAAAAAAAAAAA[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOtC6rRJt-U&feature=related[/youtube]




[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CN-LwbTk0Bk&feature=related[/youtube]
Title: Re: Whitney had 2 drinks around 10 AM, before NOON day she died NOT normal
Post by: SimPattyK on February 17, 2012, 03:44:03 PM
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Anyone have any opinions on this --> http://www.vice.com/read/whitney-houston-was-killed-so-that-blue-ivy-carter-could-live-jay-z-beyonce
I dont really agree with it, but I want your opinions..Read all of it before you reply please. :?
The link doesn't work.


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This is an amazing video.  So amazing, in fact, one wonders how it could have been put together so professionally and with such insight in just a few days.  IF Michael is behind Whitney's 'passing,' I have to think he or his team had something to do with this video.  Whether or not Whitney is alive, I think there is much food for contemplation and discussion in this video.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzFElz0T-3A&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]
Thanks for the link! really interesting! ;) and I agree with what you say! ;)


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Excuse me, you all seemed to miss the most important point! Forget semantics -
[.....]
Tink i respect your opinion and all,but let me ask you something. Do you believe everything that the Media reports? How do we know she had two drinks before 10AM? How do we know her bath water was to hot?The point is we do not know,cause we were not there.
The Media,are full of shit,and i take everything they report with a grain of salt.
So i have learned to use my own judgement and ask myself what i believe happened.
You cannot deny that there is a pattern that's trending with the latest celebrity deaths.
E_X_A_C_T_L_Y  ! ! !
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 17, 2012, 03:52:15 PM
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Of course Whitney's death is very suspicious.I think we all agree that  Michael is good at numerology and he knows so much about the music industry and the Illuminaty. I think he can know when a human sacrifice will take place and which artist will be on the sacrifice list according to artist's age!!!! Wouldn't Michael - according to everything he knows - warn the artists of what is going to happen to them?
 As I learned here on that threat that Whitney was a good friend of Michael. Wouldn't he warn her it he knows that something might happen to her????
If I were him I wouldn't just sit back and watch my friends get killed one by one if I know it previously!!!! That's not Michael. This is the only thing that makes me think that Whitney might have been saved although her death seems so real ! ! !
I like the way you think,and i really can see Michael,warning Whitney,and maybe she was saved.I agree here death does seem real.I am certain of one thing,if she really is gone,it was not because of natural causes.
+ 1 !!


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Okay, I'm not saying (YET) that this is a hoax, but this story is one hell of a deja-vu...
You know, MJ's working on a real life Thriller, he needs more 'zombies' than just himself. Some of these recent deaths are too weird. And why is there still no info about LiLo's movie 'Escaping the Game' that is set to be released in just a couple of months? Am I totally crazy, or is there a long list of celebs that really 'escaped the game' in order to expose some shit? I will wait it out for a few more days, but there is something going on with Whitney's death, something's off. I have this huge list in my head with celebs I think faked their deaths, and I am afraid Whitney's on it too now. Maybe I'm crazy, maybe this is even bigger than just MJ. Let's HOPE so.
I have to think about this, can't handle another hoax, lol.
I don't know if  Whitney's death is a hoax....but above all...I'm here for Michael.
If Whitney is alive (I have many doubts still) I would be happy, but my personal only interest in a hoax is for Michael's hoax, as  in these  last 3 years... 
[...]

We are all here for Michael. And especially because we are here for him, we try to find out WHAT determined him to do what he did and HOW he did it. So far we all could see that one of the most important reasons for the hoax was for it to be like a major PROTEST against the media and what the media does to celebrities like him.
So everything that resembles in more than 3 ways ("coincidences") to his own case, interests me just as much as his death hoax.
Title: Re: Whitney had 2 drinks around 10 AM, before NOON day she died NOT normal
Post by: katy (MJFAN7) on February 17, 2012, 04:01:55 PM
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Anyone have any opinions on this --> http://www.vice.com/read/whitney-houston-was-killed-so-that-blue-ivy-carter-could-live-jay-z-beyonce
I dont really agree with it, but I want your opinions..Read all of it before you reply please. :?

The link doesn't work.

Wow.. I guess they removed it from their site.. nevermind then
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 17, 2012, 04:09:44 PM
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This is also used to serve as an example of how the masses are fooled by the media. This theory perfectly fits with the theory that Michael is behind this!
I’m also even more leaning to it being God behind this as well. He is the master storyteller. You’ve already stated in another post how the numerology involved everywhere with deaths and stories for so long, is so intertwined it is impossible for Illuminati as smart as they are, to be able to pull this all off.  I think there are forces at work here, that are beyond TPTB’s most clever work. They may be thinking they can take credit for some of it, but I think they are being swept along by a river force as powerful as the earth’s revolving, and orbiting around the sun.  We are moving along in history, and I believe events are fulfilling Revelation in ways that boggle the mind (as the video the gwynned just gave the link to, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzFElz0T-3A&feature=player_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzFElz0T-3A&feature=player_embedded)  , shows). 
We are all in this river, and MJ is being used by God, and God has called him to be a leader, and enabled him at this precise time in HIS-story.  [...]
yes, i can see what you mean, God is totally part of this "equation" !! Nothing's possible without him! ("Nihil sine DEO!")
 There are really some things that totally surpass our imagination and our understanding! things that go beyond our power of interpret them and make any sense out of them! This is were people start taking sides and misunderstand or lose the essence... and become weak and open to confusion and then they ignore or forget it all!

I loved all the rest of your post !! the link you recommended to Bec and what you said regarding Lady Diana! ;) You amaze me with each of your messages , MJonMind!


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Glee’ Tribute to Whitney Houston Is Cool But Creepy (LISTEN) Posted by Emily Abbate on February 13, 2012 at 4:37 PM
Ready to be a little spooked? On tomorrow night's episode of Glee, "Heart," Mercedes (Amber Riley) is singing Whitney Houston's iconic track from The Bodyguard, "I Will Always Love You."

The eerie part? This was scripted prior to Houston's passing, as a total coincidence.

The producers of Glee decided to keep the song in the episode and, as a tribute Whitney, are dedicating the Valentine's Day episode to her with a card at the end of the credits.
Just wait, though, until you hear how amazing Amber Riley's voice sounds on the track. Trust me, if you didn't have goosebumps already -- you will in about 30 seconds.

I'm genuinely excited to see how the cast pulls this one off during the episode, and happy that the head honchos over at FOX decided to keep the track as is. Plus, Amber has an amazing voice, and in my mind -- there's no one at McKinley High that can do this classic number the way she can.
Whitney Houston will forever be a huge part of music and an inspiration to many. Just like Jennifer Hudson's tearjerking performance at last night's Grammy Awards, the Glee tribute will give credit where it's due: To one of the most fantastic voices of a generation.
What do you think of Amber's version of "I Will Always Love You"?
Listen to Amber's rendition of "I Will Always Love You" here:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqzHwyS6Eso&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]

So good, isn't it? http://thestir.cafemom.com/entertainment/132981/glee_tribute_to_whitney_houston?next=11
THANK you for this ! Just one more "coincidence" adding to the WEIRD list !!!


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I am just watching right now.  There are so many coincidences, connections, and things that seem to  be "instant replay".  It would be the most amazing thing if Michael, Elvis, Whitney, and others came back together !!!!!!  I think most of the world would stop and finally listen !!   We'll see ?!
I'm gonna keep watchin !!!!
Love You All
Wow.. that would be amazing! The thought is tripping me out :lol:
[...]
me too !!  bounce/ bounce/
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 17, 2012, 04:30:37 PM
If you remember, I had posted , few pages ago on this very thread (here's the link (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/smf2.0/index.php?topic=22175.250) ), a long article on the Island - theory all related to Lindsay Lohan's movie about celebs who escape fame by faking their deaths, then hiding on a remote island. The movie director is (coincidence!) Brett Ratner, Michael's friend ! (I've talked a lot about him, too in that post ^^)

Funny how the next day, TMZ posted 2 "pieces of news" about both Lindsay Lohan and Brett Ratner:

Lindsay Lohan Did I Forget to Do My Taxes ... Again?
http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/14/lindsay-lohan-tax-lien/#.Tz7URHlWp3A

Brett Ratner Making a Bunch Of Gay Videos ... for GLAAD
http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/15/brett-ratner-gay-video-glaad/#.Tz7U0nlWp3A


Question(s): What should i believe of this? Is this only a coincidence? Is TMZ watching this forum? or Am I crazy?
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: alfarle on February 17, 2012, 04:50:26 PM
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Of course Whitney's death is very suspicious. I think we all agree that  Michael is good at numerology and he knows so much about the music industry and the Illuminaty. I think he can know when a human sacrifice will take place and which artist will be on the sacrifice list according to artist's age!!!! Wouldn't Michaels - according to everything he knows - warn the srtists of shat is going to happen to them? As I learned here on that threat that Whitney was a good friend of Michael. Wouldn't he warn her it he knows that something might happen to her???? If I were him I wouldn't just sit back and watch my friends get killed one by one if I know it previously!!!! That's not Michael. This is the only thing that makes me think that Whitney might have been saved although her death seems so real ! ! !
I like the way you think,and i really can see Michael,warning Whitney,and maybe she was saved.I agree here death does seem real.I am certain of one thing,if she really is gone,it was not because of natural causes.


Someone brought this point up earlier yesterday as far as numerology goes:
2+11+12(2012)= yet another 25.... Quite strange right?

Besides that, as far as inconsistencies go, why is it that Nancy Grace on HLN reported yesterday evening that Whitney was found on a WET FLOOR dead...rather than in the bathtub like it was reported when news first broke out that Whitney Houton was dead? Which one was it? Inside the bathtub, or on the floor?

It's getting too predictable, isn't it.  Contradictory reports, Janet smiling when she talks about people close to her dying, TMZ getting the 'scoop.'  Hard to mistake the signature.


You're right. And it's strange how they'd ask Janet when she's been very quiet the past yr(in comparison to LaToya and Jermaine)....Now all of a sudden she has something to say about both MJ and Whitney. SO very confusing......
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 17, 2012, 05:03:49 PM
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Anyone see Oprah’s “Remembering Whitney” tonight on OWN?  She aired her 09 interview and made present day comments.  Lots more in the interview than what I saw on YT.  It made me wonder even more if something is going on. 

Whitney at one point said : “the best is yet to come”, and how tight her and “Mike” were.  Yet… she laughed many times when talking about when he “PASSED”.  AGAIN with that word... and AGAIN with laughing!!! 

At the end of the special Oprah said “now you know we will always love you” then she winked in the camera.  I could get the “always love you” line but what’s up with the wink?

btw - I also read her funeral will be live streamed on the net.  wth?   
OMGGG!! The BEST is DEFINITELY yet to come !!!This^^  makes me really wonder what's/who's next now!??

@msgitm - thanks for coming up with one of the freakiest "coincidences" ever since the whole "Whitney-show" started!!  penguin/

My friend, Mona Osman, from facebook ( https://www.facebook.com/groups/166081402401/ ) , had like a "premonition" less than 3 months ago!! On December the 1st 2011 she had posted this photo-montage below, with that red question mark! like she somehow felt someone else was next!

I added, now, Whitney's pic and the island to this montage.


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Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 17, 2012, 05:13:56 PM
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[...]
Someone brought this point up earlier yesterday as far as numerology goes:
2+11+12(2012)= yet another 25.... Quite strange right?

Besides that, as far as inconsistencies go, why is it that Nancy Grace on HLN reported yesterday evening that Whitney was found on a WET FLOOR dead...rather than in the bathtub like it was reported when news first broke out that Whitney Houston was dead? Which one was it? Inside the bathtub, or on the floor?
Great numerology clue! ;)
Also the total sum of Whitney's death-date is : 1+1+2+2+1+2 = 9 (probably indicating to the the 999-theory?)

What you said about the contradictory reported news about the place where she was supposedly found dead, well that's another eery thing that reminds me of Elvis' death! in his case there were also contradictory reports : one said he was found dead in his bathroom, the other one that he was found dead in his bed.

And both Elvis and Whitney had been to their dentists shortly before their "deaths" lmao  :lol:
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 17, 2012, 05:21:39 PM
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Now her funeral is being televised on HNL and probably ALL major networks. Whitney said she liked her privacy so why would the family do this?  It's hard enough to lose a loved one, especially for children, but in front of the world?  I wonder if Bobbi Kristina will be wearing an earpiece?
Also, why is Kevin Costner speaking? Yes they did a movie 16 years ago but were they friends after that?  I'm sure there's a lot of people closer to Whitney that could speak instead, imo.  This story has me going hmmm...
Quote from Wikipedia:
"[....]At the time of Jackson's death in 2009, the pair had not seen each other for 16 years . Shields claimed that in the singer's last years "it was harder to get the right number to get through to him".[25]
In July 2009, Brooke Shields  spoke at the Michael Jackson memorial service, reminiscing on their time together[....]"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_relationships_of_Michael_Jackson#Brooke_Shields



Also NO. 16 = 8+8 (Elvis' number, his death date) ----)) @MJonMind I'm sure you're thinking about the same thing as me!!



Post edit: The movie "Bodyguard" was 20 years ago!! in 1992. I just checked this few second ago! - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0103855/
@msgitm: where did you get the "16 years" ?
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 17, 2012, 06:58:24 PM
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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhQJUpThbZ4[/youtube]
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: alfarle on February 17, 2012, 07:55:17 PM
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[...]
Someone brought this point up earlier yesterday as far as numerology goes:
2+11+12(2012)= yet another 25.... Quite strange right?

Besides that, as far as inconsistencies go, why is it that Nancy Grace on HLN reported yesterday evening that Whitney was found on a WET FLOOR dead...rather than in the bathtub like it was reported when news first broke out that Whitney Houston was dead? Which one was it? Inside the bathtub, or on the floor?
Great numerology clue! ;)
Also the total sum of Whitney's death-date is : 1+1+2+2+1+2 = 9 (probably indicating to the the 999-theory?)

What you said about the contradictory reported news about the place where she was supposedly found dead, well that's another eery thing that reminds me of Elvis' death! in his case there were also contradictory reports : one said he was found dead in his bathroom, the other one that he was found dead in his bed.

And both Elvis and Whitney had been to their dentists shortly before their "deaths" lmao  :lol:



WEEELLLLL I'm just now seeing reports via yahoo saying that Nancy Grace has a theory of foul play...basically something being done to her

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/gossip/2012/02/whitney-houston-nancy-grace-murder-speculation.html

At first I was a little angry with her for some of the things that she was saying, but I seriously believe that she's on to something and trying to expose wrong doing.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: LoveShyMichael on February 17, 2012, 08:09:37 PM
Do you think that people are just trying to expose the corrupt world of music by the Illumanti? It clearly exists, but doesn't seem to get that much exposure on mainstream media. We all know why that is. The things they don't want you to discover the truth about NEVER or very seldom heard on any mainstream media station.

I know the global elite scum bags that control the mainstream media are the same ones running our country in the hell hole.

Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: msgitm on February 18, 2012, 01:42:44 AM
[@msgitm: where did you get the "16 years" ?

Sorry, I was thinking the Bodyguard came out in 96, for some reason?  This long hoax has done a number on me brain cells - what little I have left. lol

@SimPattyK - off topic but what ever happened to Eliza Presley?  That story seems to have gone with da wind.
Title: Re: Whitney had 2 drinks around 10 AM, before NOON day she died NOT normal
Post by: RK on February 18, 2012, 01:58:17 AM
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Anyone have any opinions on this --> http://www.vice.com/read/whitney-houston-was-killed-so-that-blue-ivy-carter-could-live-jay-z-beyonce
I dont really agree with it, but I want your opinions..Read all of it before you reply please. :?
The link doesn't work.


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This is an amazing video.  So amazing, in fact, one wonders how it could have been put together so professionally and with such insight in just a few days.  IF Michael is behind Whitney's 'passing,' I have to think he or his team had something to do with this video.  Whether or not Whitney is alive, I think there is much food for contemplation and discussion in this video.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzFElz0T-3A&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]
Thanks for the link! really interesting! ;) and I agree with what you say! ;)


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Excuse me, you all seemed to miss the most important point! Forget semantics -
[.....]
Tink i respect your opinion and all,but let me ask you something. Do you believe everything that the Media reports? How do we know she had two drinks before 10AM? How do we know her bath water was to hot?The point is we do not know,cause we were not there.
The Media,are full of shit,and i take everything they report with a grain of salt.
So i have learned to use my own judgement and ask myself what i believe happened.
You cannot deny that there is a pattern that's trending with the latest celebrity deaths.
E_X_A_C_T_L_Y  ! ! !
Seeing this video of Madonna made me dig out Jermaine's book once more. Does anyone else remember Jermaine slamming Madonna in his book...You Are Not Alone...Michael through a brother's eyes. Then straight after, he launches into his story about working with Whitney [page 270] He draws  comparison with MJ,  saying the press was more interested in her sexual orientation and questioned her closeness with Robyn Crawford. He then gets into the intense chemistry that existed between Whitney and himself, saying their duets were turning into temptation and forbidden love. The funniest part is...and I quote

In 1985, I recieved a phone call from someone close to Whitney, telling me she was releasing her new single "Saving All My Love For You". Like Michael, she expressed herself through song. And when I watched the official music video, I soon realized it was autobiographical with it's parallels--and coded message--to what we had recently shared in the studio together. I guess we had both left a deep and abiding impression on one another, and her positive impact has never left me

Interesting that Jermaine would devote this part of his book about Michael to Whitney...and interesting use of the word parallel once again.
 Paris and her tweets about secret societies seems to be somehow atatched to this whole thing as well.

So, the questions we must ask are....Is Madonna super bowl / Whitney death / Nikki Minaj on stage grammie ritual all part of an elaborate script for a hoax movie

or is Madonna / Minaj part real evil and Whitney got away

Or is this a blatent ritual murder played out in front of the unsuspecting public.
I don't think that it is a coincidence that Jermaine devotes a few pages of his book to Whitney.

This could go any way. I will be watching the Funeral coverage like a hawk. Thanks for posting the video gwynned as it sparked my memory of Jermaine writing about both bad girl Madonna and beautiful Whitney in his book.

 
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 18, 2012, 02:41:21 AM
@RK: you just drew some interesting parallels! thanks ;)

@alfarle: thanks for that link about Nancy Grace!

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[...]@SimPattyK - off topic but what ever happened to Eliza Presley?  That story seems to have gone with da wind.
NO. not "gone with the wind". Eliza's case was literally Blocked! Yeah, they did everything for it. Who's "they"? I don't know!
I had written more on this ^^ on the topic: Questions for TS (& anyone else) about ELVIS (Jesse)  (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/smf2.0/index.php?topic=21995.0) - (read my first 3 posts in that topic)
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 18, 2012, 03:25:35 AM
Whitney Houston Funeral Programs! Getcha Programs Here!
http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/17/whitney-houston-programs/#.Tz9rlHlWp3A
TMZ obtained one of the programs distributed today at the family viewing for Whitney Houston.
The program -- titled, "I Will Always Love You" -- features photos of Whitney with some of
the special people in her life -- including her daughter Bobbi Kristina, her mother and Clive Davis.
Bobby Brown is not photo'd in the program.

The "Home Going" ceremony for Whitney is set to go down
 tomorrow at 12PM EST -- we'll be live streaming the entire thing.

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 WTF?? (http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/3812/image2ae.jpg)

http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/18/bobbi-kristina-whitney-houston-rehab/#.Tz9tGnlWp3A
Whitney Houston's family wants Bobbi Kristina to enter a live-in rehab facility ASAP -- but sources tell TMZ, they're holding off on telling her until after Whitney's funeral today.
According to sources connected with the family, Bobbi has struggled with substance abuse issues for the last three or four years -- and the family wants her to seek out professional help at a 60-day live-in treatment facility before her problems get worse.

We're told the family is aware Whitney fell off the wagon in the weeks leading to her death -- and they don't want the same fate to befall her daughter.
But they're not putting pressure on her to enter rehab right away -- they want to give her time to grieve during and immediately after her mother's funeral today.
Attempts to reach Bobbi directly were unsuccessful. So far, it's unclear if Bobbi plans to heed her family's advice.

Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: applehead250609 on February 18, 2012, 08:32:00 AM
This is so sad  :( and that man was crying  :-\  :'( !!!!

Whitney Houston's private viewing in Newark, New Jersey, is attended by family, relatives and close associates, and the funeral home itself is surrounded by police performing crowd control.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfruVa3ddsw&feature=g-u-u&context=G28a6135FUAAAAAAAAAA[/youtube]

Whitney Houston's devoted fans gather outside the private viewing service at Whigham Funeral Home in Newark, New Jersey, and sing "I Will Always Love You" in her memory.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmN9qGK2u20&feature=context&context=G28a6135FUAAAAAAAAAA[/youtube]
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: RK on February 18, 2012, 09:15:23 AM
@Apple...what do you make of that big  golden egyptian head of a pharoah outside the funeral home in the first video at 2:38? 
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: techdiva on February 18, 2012, 09:37:13 AM
I am confidence more and more that Whitney Houston is still with us.  She had a reunion with El Debarge a few days of her passing.  She said "Yes, Jesus loves me" in her final performance and she spoke to her mother and Dionne Warwick the day of her passing.  She was carried out in a white sheet instead of black body bag. They finally brought her body down before 12 midnight.   Tyler Perry flew her body back to New Jersey on his private plane the same way Charles brought back Princess Di's body.  There was indication in the news that Whitney Houston was broke and she was filing for Bankruptcy.  She said she wasn't broke.  Whitney Houston net worth is 5 million before death.  Yes, I know Michael did warn her what would happened.  She told everyone she could feel the end coming and she would see Jesus soon.  This all the same week of her passing.  Yes, I strongly believe she is alive. Also the family didn't want to televised the funeral. They wanted to have private one.  This is what the Jackson family said about Michael, but they ended up televising everything.  Yes, Michael is behind this.  People jumping in the rabbit hole.  He is saving everyone. He wants to wake up the world and I feel a big star like Whitney Houston would opent that door wide!!!
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: PureLove on February 18, 2012, 10:18:56 AM
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Okay, I'm not saying (YET) that this is a hoax, but this story is one hell of a deja-vu...

You know, MJ's working on a real life Thriller, he needs more 'zombies' than just himself. Some of these recent deaths are too weird. And why is there still no info about LiLo's movie 'Escaping the Game' that is set to be released in just a couple of months? Am I totally crazy, or is there a long list of celebs that really 'escaped the game' in order to expose some shit? I will wait it out for a few more days, but there is something going on with Whitney's death, something's off. I have this huge list in my head with celebs I think faked their deaths, and I am afraid Whitney's on it too now. Maybe I'm crazy, maybe this is even bigger than just MJ. Let's HOPE so.

I have to think about this, can't handle another hoax, lol.

EXACTLY girl! I was expecting you to make a post like this. :lol: This is definitely giving me the feeling of a deja vu. There're tons of parallels btw her and Michael's "death" that we can not ignore. Both were getting ready for a COME BACK? Wow! How do we know that she was drinking all day when she died? Because the media says so? Nahh I don't think so. Remember that Michael showed himself like a very sick person on wheelchairs to manipulate the media. Whitney could have done the same. She might be a drug addict and alcoholic once but I do not think she was lately. Her death is still very suspicious to me.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: PureLove on February 18, 2012, 10:25:47 AM
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@Apple...what do you make of that big  golden egyptian head of a pharoah outside the funeral home in the first video at 2:38? 


(http://a1202.hizliresim.com/u/l/2ucck.jpg) (http://bit.ly/c25MCx)

 afraid/  :shock:
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 18, 2012, 10:30:04 AM
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LIVE -----)) http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/18/whitney-houston-funeral-livestream/#.Tz_NPnlWqwc

http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/18/whitney-houston-funeral-speakers/#.Tz_Ov3lWqwc

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Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: iamamjbeliever on February 18, 2012, 10:33:33 AM
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@Apple...what do you make of that big  golden egyptian head of a pharoah outside the funeral home in the first video at 2:38? 


(http://a1202.hizliresim.com/u/l/2ucck.jpg) (http://bit.ly/c25MCx)

 afraid/  :shock:
:shock:
 :shock:  :shock:  :shock:  :shock:
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 18, 2012, 10:35:37 AM
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Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 18, 2012, 10:55:14 AM
Whitney Houston's Mystery Friend Was Also Michael Jackson's Pal

http://www.forbes.com/sites/rogerfriedman/2012/02/18/whitney-houstons-mystery-friend-was-also-michael-jacksons-pal/

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Here’s the one person in the Whitney Houston story whose name you have not heard, and who has remained a mystery: a Dutch man from Amsterdam who goes by the name of Raffles van Exel. He is also known – in court records—as Raffles Dawson and Raffles Benson. He was on the fourth floor of the Beverly Hilton Hotel in one of Houston’s suites when she died. He appeared downstairs in the lobby shortly thereafter, wearing aviator sunglasses, sobbing.

As usual, he had an entourage in tow, including Quinton Aaron, the actor who played the football player in “The Blind Side.” Raffles, in one of his many PR Newswire releases, recently announced that he’s producing movies with Aaron. It’s just one of many ventures he announces regularly. For someone who has no obvious means of support, he is a regular on PR Newswire and You Tube. On the latter, you can find him interviewing friends of Michael Jackson. It is assumed that he sells stories to tabloids. He regularly includes names of tabloid reporters like Kevin Frazier of “The Insider” on his Tweets.

Despite the shock of Whitney’s death, Raffles still made it downstairs to Clive Davis’s party. He was dressed in formal wear, had Whitney’s tickets in his hand, and intended  to sit at her table. Just inside the ballroom he was comforted by celebrities to whom he related his story—“I found Whitney.”  Gayle King hugged him. Quincy Jones listened patiently to his story. A security guard told me later, “Well, he was up there.” He was also hanging around with Houston all week prior to her death. On Tuesday when she emerged from a nightclub, looking disheveled, Raffles appears in a photograph on TMZ like a deer in headlights. He is standing right behind her in a powder blue suit. On Twitter, he wrote: “STOP reading the stupid blogs.. Whitney had a great time, she looked amazing. Nothing was wrong, it was just DAMN hot in that club.”

But who is Raffles van Exel? He’s one of Hollywood’s mysteries. I first met him in 2005 hanging around the Jackson family during Michael Jackson’s child molestation trial. After Michael went abroad, Raffles was often seen with Michael’s father, Joseph Jackson. He trades on being an “insider” when there’s a scandal. No one really knows him, but he’s always where there’s action and celebrities. On the internet he claims to own a number of companies including Raffles Entertainment. He’s also been sued a couple of times, once by a partner in something called Max Records, Inc., and once by a private aviation company in Los Angeles. I spoke to the plane company and they said they can’t comment because the situation is ongoing. On Twitter he claims to be managing “my girl,” Chaka Khan. There are plenty of pictures of Raffles on the internet with celebrities. You can see him with everyone from Magic Johnson to Sandra Bullock. If ever there was a real life Zelig, he is it.

It’s  not a surprise that Raffles has turned up in Whitney Houston’s story. Last October, he and Whitney and others traveled to North Carolina with Whitney’s sister in law Patricia Houston for something called a Teen Summit. It was billed as part of The Patricia Houston Foundation, an organization for which there is no official 501 c3  registration. Pat Houston, married to Whitney’s brother Gary, has been Whitney’s manager for years.  (Whitney’s own foundation for children ceased functioning years ago.) She also owns a consignment shop in North Carolina, and a candle company called Marion P. Candles, with Whitney.

Look for Raffles at Whitney’s funeral tomorrow. In the old days he used to wear a yellow jacket full of black question marks—like The Riddler. On Saturday night, as he pulled in various guests to Clive Davis’s party past the velvet ropes, he was wearing a Michael Jackson-like tuxedo. He lives in West Hollywood now, but his official domicile—and where he’s been sued—is Chicago. He has not responded to countless emails and phone messages.

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Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: hesouttamylife on February 18, 2012, 11:00:44 AM
It’s interesting tolearn that Whitney failed a medical physical exam and was denied a face lift because of it 3 weeks before she died.  It’s right about that time she started vocalizing being ready to see Jesus.   :? :cry:  Her voice was failing, her health not good, and people being very disrespectful to her abroad during those concerts.  I can understand her being depressed.  Hopefully she didn’t act on it.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: use_your_illusion on February 18, 2012, 11:09:34 AM
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I am confidence more and more that Whitney Houston is still with us.  She had a reunion with El Debarge a few days of her passing.  She said "Yes, Jesus loves me" in her final performance and she spoke to her mother and Dionne Warwick the day of her passing.  She was carried out in a white sheet instead of black body bag. They finally brought her body down before 12 midnight.   Tyler Perry flew her body back to New Jersey on his private plane the same way Charles brought back Princess Di's body.  There was indication in the news that Whitney Houston was broke and she was filing for Bankruptcy.  She said she wasn't broke.  Whitney Houston net worth is 5 million before death.  Yes, I know Michael did warn her what would happened.  She told everyone she could feel the end coming and she would see Jesus soon.  This all the same week of her passing.  Yes, I strongly believe she is alive. Also the family didn't want to televised the funeral. They wanted to have private one.  This is what the Jackson family said about Michael, but they ended up televising everything.  Yes, Michael is behind this.  People jumping in the rabbit hole.  He is saving everyone. He wants to wake up the world and I feel a big star like Whitney Houston would opent that door wide!!!

And remember they said just before MJ passed he was reading the bible and so was Whitney. It seems like they were reading it a lot before they died.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: use_your_illusion on February 18, 2012, 11:11:27 AM
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Okay, I'm not saying (YET) that this is a hoax, but this story is one hell of a deja-vu...

You know, MJ's working on a real life Thriller, he needs more 'zombies' than just himself. Some of these recent deaths are too weird. And why is there still no info about LiLo's movie 'Escaping the Game' that is set to be released in just a couple of months? Am I totally crazy, or is there a long list of celebs that really 'escaped the game' in order to expose some shit? I will wait it out for a few more days, but there is something going on with Whitney's death, something's off. I have this huge list in my head with celebs I think faked their deaths, and I am afraid Whitney's on it too now. Maybe I'm crazy, maybe this is even bigger than just MJ. Let's HOPE so.

I have to think about this, can't handle another hoax, lol.

EXACTLY girl! I was expecting you to make a post like this. :lol: This is definitely giving me the feeling of a deja vu. There're tons of parallels btw her and Michael's "death" that we can not ignore. Both were getting ready for a COME BACK? Wow! How do we know that she was drinking all day when she died? Because the media says so? Nahh I don't think so. Remember that Michael showed himself like a very sick person on wheelchairs to manipulate the media. Whitney could have done the same. She might be a drug addict and alcoholic once but I do not think she was lately. Her death is still very suspicious to me.

Let's hope. and if she is not dead then I wonder who MJ will 'take' next.


@RK OMG  :shock: :shock: :? ...interesting.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Tink on February 18, 2012, 11:13:10 AM
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It’s interesting tolearn that Whitney failed a medical physical exam and was denied a face lift because of it 3 weeks before she died.  It’s right about that time she started vocalizing being ready to see Jesus.   :? :cry:  Her voice was failing, her health not good, and people being very disrespectful to her abroad during those concerts.  I can understand her being depressed.  Hopefully she didn’t act on it.

This is the age that early heart problems are found in women. That would indeed mean, that staying longer than 15 minutes in a hot bath did it.

But also understand - we're living longer and longer with heart conditions, thanks to modern medicines! A blood screening, medical exam means that she could take medicines. So - it isn't a death sentence, when caught at our age. You just have to STOP drinking, and start eating right! The turkey sandwich tells me, she was doing that part correctly - but she wasn't drinking right.

She may have had: high cholesterol; high blood pressure. Those run in my family, and have taken those in my family who ignore it around 50, sadly. But those who take their meds, are still with us, even into their 80s - and I know they don't eat perfect.

But the hot bath part - I've given out the warning to them all. Some had been drinking in hot tubs to wind down after work. Didn't know any better - I didn't either.

Something tells me that's it, in my heart.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: GINAFELICIA on February 18, 2012, 11:19:22 AM
I think it would be interesting to watch the funeral.
There's a closed coffin there. I feel a different vibration from MJ's memorial.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Tink on February 18, 2012, 11:22:44 AM
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I think it would be interesting to watch the funeral.
There's a closed coffin there.

I'm watching it live right now. TMZ.com
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 18, 2012, 11:24:38 AM
I agree Gina ^^!

We can watch it on youtube too:
"Celebrities, family, friends celebrating Whitney Houston's life today at memorial service;" you can watch LIVE at http://www.youtube.com/fuse


Harvey Levin @HarveyLevinTMZ
"Whitney Houston's funeral is starting, the choir is singing. watch it live here" -- http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/18/whitney-houston-funeral-livestream/#.Tz_NPnlWqwc
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: use_your_illusion on February 18, 2012, 11:25:10 AM
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I think it would be interesting to watch the funeral.
There's a closed coffin there.

I'm watching it live right now. TMZ.com

Is it up yet..blank screen for me....
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: GINAFELICIA on February 18, 2012, 11:26:51 AM
I'm watching on CNN 
http://edition.cnn.com/video/flashLive/live.html?stream=stream1

I don't know those people but there is something different of the memorial. Can't tell exactly what. Looks real to me.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Andrea on February 18, 2012, 11:30:37 AM
Watching on TMZ.  It's interesting that she died or 'died' on a Saturday and her funeral is the following Saturday, both on the Sabbath.

The choir is dressed all in white.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: use_your_illusion on February 18, 2012, 11:33:10 AM
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I'm watching on CNN 
http://edition.cnn.com/video/flashLive/live.html?stream=stream1

I don't know those people but there is something different of the memorial. Can't tell exactly what. Looks real to me.

Thanks so its the same thing on the ap stream...thank you Gina.

Maybe it reminds you of the song 'Soon and very soon' sang at MJ's memorial.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSTwdbvLVeg[/youtube]

Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: suspicious mind on February 18, 2012, 11:37:49 AM
whether it has anything to do with the hoax or not , this is gonna be worth the watching.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Andrea on February 18, 2012, 11:39:39 AM
I don't if this has been said already but January 21 (Ark re-direct) to February 11 (Whitney's death) is exactly 21 days...777...

January 21 was also a Saturday.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: GINAFELICIA on February 18, 2012, 11:40:55 AM
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I'm watching on CNN 
http://edition.cnn.com/video/flashLive/live.html?stream=stream1

I don't know those people but there is something different of the memorial. Can't tell exactly what. Looks real to me.

Thanks so its the same thing on the ap stream...thank you Gina.

Maybe it reminds you of the song 'Soon and very soon' sang at MJ's memorial.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSTwdbvLVeg[/youtube]


From what I've seen by now MJ's memorial was much more elaborate. They had 2 weeks to prepare it but it's ...oh I can't find the words....it's perfect. If a memorial can be described as  perfect. And it's full of symbolism and messages.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: fordtocarr on February 18, 2012, 11:42:08 AM
Well, I've decided, that I don't think Whitney's death is a hoax.  NOT being in a church.  Those people there believe her dead.  If it were a hoax, I think it'd be out of a religious setting as Michael's was.  Sad...heartbreaking, angel of a voice that she tended to abuse...but we were blessed to have her as long as we had her :)
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: loveratheart4mj on February 18, 2012, 11:43:28 AM
I see where Ms Franklin canceled her performance at whitneys funeral. Franklin was her God mother and Whiteny called her Aunt Ree. Hmmmm. This makes me suspicious.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: GINAFELICIA on February 18, 2012, 11:46:44 AM
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Well, I've decided, that I don't think Whitney's death is a hoax.  NOT being in a church.  Those people there believe her dead.  If it were a hoax, I think it'd be out of a religious setting as Michael's was.  Sad...heartbreaking, angel of a voice that she tended to abuse...but we were blessed to have her as long as we had her :)
I agree, there's nothing there to make me suspicious.
Behind MJ's memorial it's his hand. The symbolism, everything, it's Michael's vision. Who's else?? Yet I am not sure he is still alive. But ...I'm tired of this uncertainty :(
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 18, 2012, 11:49:33 AM
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Watching on TMZ.  It's interesting that she died or 'died' on a Saturday and her funeral is the following Saturday, both on the Sabbath.

The choir is dressed all in white.

I don't if this has been said already but January 21 (Ark re-direct) to February 11 (Whitney's death) is exactly 21 days...777...

January 21 was also a Saturday.
great observation!

Jesse Jackson is there too!!
This man was around Elvis, James Brown, Michael and now Whitney! He KNOWS something!
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: suspicious mind on February 18, 2012, 11:50:40 AM
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I see where Ms Franklin canceled her performance at whitneys funeral. Franklin was her God mother and Whiteny called her Aunt Ree. Hmmmm. This makes me suspicious.
idk but aretha is diabetic, and the stress might truely make her ill.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: suspicious mind on February 18, 2012, 11:51:42 AM
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Watching on TMZ.  It's interesting that she died or 'died' on a Saturday and her funeral is the following Saturday, both on the Sabbath.

The choir is dressed all in white.

I don't if this has been said already but January 21 (Ark re-direct) to February 11 (Whitney's death) is exactly 21 days...777...

January 21 was also a Saturday.
great observation!

Jesse Jackson is there too!!
This man was around Elvis, James Brown, Michael and now Whitney! He KNOWS something!
he seems a bit uncomfortable to me. just sayin'
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: jam4truth on February 18, 2012, 11:53:35 AM
Hmmm.. Whitney's coffin looks familiar to MJ's.

(http://www.waleg.com/celebrities/images/mj-casket09.jpg)
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: GINAFELICIA on February 18, 2012, 11:54:55 AM
I am curious if someone from the family will say something like "Whitney is watching us" or something like that.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Andrea on February 18, 2012, 11:55:15 AM
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Watching on TMZ.  It's interesting that she died or 'died' on a Saturday and her funeral is the following Saturday, both on the Sabbath.

The choir is dressed all in white.

I don't if this has been said already but January 21 (Ark re-direct) to February 11 (Whitney's death) is exactly 21 days...777...

January 21 was also a Saturday.
great observation!

Jesse Jackson is there too!!
This man was around Elvis, James Brown, Michael and now Whitney! He KNOWS something!

Yes, definitely a lot of weird 'coincidences' that simply shouldn't be overlooked.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 18, 2012, 12:03:17 PM
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@Apple...what do you make of that big  golden egyptian head of a pharoah outside the funeral home in the first video at 2:38? 
Thanks AppleHead for the video! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfruVa3ddsw&feature=player_embedded

Thanks RK for this observation! wow! OMG!

(http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/4088/egyptianhead.jpg)
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Dontwalkaway on February 18, 2012, 12:04:49 PM
RK

I was also wondering about the egyptian statue in front of the funeral home.  That seemed odd to me also. 

Madonna confuses me.  Sometimes I think she is changed and some times I don't.  I don't know if the illuminati/superbowl ceremony was real or not ???     Maybe Madonna and others are part of the hoax.  There just acting ???  Maybe or Maybe not ?   I really hope it was a "set up" and Whitney was saved.   And if it was "real" then I hope she was warned and able to escape.   

SimPattyK,

I saw your post with the pictures of "People Wanted".  It makes me wonder about who is going to be in the movie with Lindsay Lohan about the celebrities escaping to an island.     Wouldn't it be something else if Michael, Elvis, Whitney and others were actually in the movie ???  That's the crazy thought that went through my head when I saw the photos you posted.

Well, right now I'm watching, praying and hoping for the best.  The funeral/memorial service is on CNN right now.

Love You All
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: scorpionchik on February 18, 2012, 12:06:56 PM
there are NO pictures of beautiful Whitney on her memorial. Weird.
And it is very unspectacular and different in compare to our King of Pop's 'memorial' "who was watching us, whom we were going to see soon, Liberian Girl picture...." was NOT just placed on the screen accidently. I am sure about that more than before.

 http://omg.yahoo.com/whitney-houston-funeral/
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 18, 2012, 12:11:02 PM
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Hmmm.. Whitney's coffin looks familiar to MJ's.

(http://www.waleg.com/celebrities/images/mj-casket09.jpg)

(http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/2459/whitneymj.jpg)
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Ijustcantstoplovingu on February 18, 2012, 12:12:58 PM
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there are NO pictures of beautiful Whitney on her memorial. Weird.
And it is very unspectacular and different in compare to our King of Pop's 'memorial' "who was watching us, whom we were going to see soon, Liberian Girl picture...." was NOT just placed on the screen accidently. I am sure about that more than before.

 http://omg.yahoo.com/whitney-houston-funeral/


do you see a familiarity with the casket and the flowers? I was like WOW ?
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 18, 2012, 12:15:35 PM
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RK: was also wondering about the egyptian statue in front of the funeral home.  That seemed odd to me also. 

Madonna confuses me.  Sometimes I think she is changed and some times I don't.  I don't know if the illuminati/superbowl ceremony was real or not ???     Maybe Madonna and others are part of the hoax.  There just acting ???  Maybe or Maybe not ?   I really hope it was a "set up" and Whitney was saved.   And if it was "real" then I hope she was warned and able to escape. 
I ask myself the same questions!! ^^

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SimPattyK,

I saw your post with the pictures of "People Wanted".  It makes me wonder about who is going to be in the movie with Lindsay Lohan about the celebrities escaping to an island.     Wouldn't it be something else if Michael, Elvis, Whitney and others were actually in the movie ???  That's the crazy thought that went through my head when I saw the photos you posted.
Well for now , let's say it's just a good thought! loll but yes that would be so awesome!! omg!! can you imagine!!
Love you  bearhug


I am watching and listening now...the song "A CHANGE has come! it's been a looong time!!"
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 18, 2012, 12:21:59 PM
For the last half an hour they keep laughing ...
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: use_your_illusion on February 18, 2012, 12:27:56 PM
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Have you guys noticed that neither Front or TS have said anything about WH? Strange.  Could this be the 'Project'?

If so, exactly how many celebrities are in on this extravaganza of a Thriller 2?  The taking of entertainment to the 'next level'.

Yes, TS made a comment remember about Liz Taylor after she died but TS is yet to say anything about Whitney...I was waiting for his comment and if he doesn't make it, then I will have my doubts.

@Sim, yep Jesse Jackson...how do you find all this stuff, your like the google of hoaxes simoogle...lol

I love that song Sim...Otis' version is AMAZING
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: katy (MJFAN7) on February 18, 2012, 12:29:32 PM
Woww! :shock: It looks like the exact same coffin... Odd
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 18, 2012, 12:31:44 PM
Kevin Costner: "If you could just hear me now: you weren't just good enough, you were great!"
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: GINAFELICIA on February 18, 2012, 12:38:54 PM
I loved the speech of that pastor half an hour ago who said love is the greatest and God is love.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: GINAFELICIA on February 18, 2012, 12:40:48 PM
Oh...Sim...there were no elephants...no I'm alive and I'm here forever...a lot of things were off at the memorial, not the case in this funeral service by now. Kevin's phrase means nothing.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 18, 2012, 12:43:13 PM
@Gina ^^ & all those who struggle to find the differences: wouldn't it be extremely BORING if these funerals were 100% identical??
Of course there are many differences, it's normal, and it looks more  real like that! ;)
It's really the Greatest Show on Earth!


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Have you guys noticed that neither Front or TS have said anything about WH? Strange.  Could this be the 'Project'?
If so, exactly how many celebrities are in on this extravaganza of a Thriller 2?  The taking of entertainment to the 'next level'.
Yes, TS made a comment remember about Liz Taylor after she died but TS is yet to say anything about Whitney...I was waiting for his comment and if he doesn't make it, then I will have my doubts.
We'll be WATCHING! ;)

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@Sim, yep Jesse Jackson...how do you find all this stuff, your like the google of hoaxes simoogle...lol
lmao  :lol:  :lol: thanks for making me laugh so good!
Well Jesse Jackson is present everywhere around celebrities 'deaths" if you know what I mean. He's hard to miss. i wasn't even surprised to see him there for Whitney too lol



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Kevin Costner: "If you could just hear me now: you weren't just good enough, you were great!"
lol (http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/3493/image11sv.jpg)
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: GINAFELICIA on February 18, 2012, 12:56:03 PM
Sim I am not struggle to spot differences, it is obvious to me the memorial and this funeral service are different in conception.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 18, 2012, 12:59:30 PM
Interesting ending of her manager's speech, Clive, I can't reproduce his words right now ,
 but to me it sounded like: "The Best is yet to come!", and he spoke in 2nd person singular,
like Whitney could still hear him. Just like Kevin did!
Can someone pls reproduce his exacts words?
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: iamamjbeliever on February 18, 2012, 01:01:13 PM
ive you guys seen hatman yet?
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 18, 2012, 01:09:58 PM
@iamamjbeliever: lol nope! no hatman yet ! loll


Ray J spoke about how Whitney was an avid Bible reader (just like Michael and Elvis), he also mentioned she used to make lots of side - notes! just like Lisa Marie said about Elvis!


Now it's Stevie Wonder. Wasn't he at Michael's memorial too?
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: use_your_illusion on February 18, 2012, 01:12:00 PM
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@iamamjbeliever: lol nope! no hatman yet ! loll


Ray J spoke about how Whitney was an avid Bible reader (just like Michael and Elvis), he also mentioned she used to make lots of side - notes! just like Lisa Marie said about Elvis!


Now it's Stevie Wonder. Wasn't he at Michael's memorial too?

Yes he was...Stevie is amazing, one of my fav artists...he is inspirational.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 18, 2012, 01:15:49 PM
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[...]Now it's Stevie Wonder. Wasn't he at Michael's memorial too?

Yes he was...Stevie is amazing, one of my fav artists...he is inspirational.
OMG!! Stevie just sang : "What GOD gives is never a COINCIDENCE!!!!"
He changed the lyrics for this occasion!
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: use_your_illusion on February 18, 2012, 01:23:46 PM
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[...]Now it's Stevie Wonder. Wasn't he at Michael's memorial too?

Yes he was...Stevie is amazing, one of my fav artists...he is inspirational.
OMG!! Stevie just sang : "What GOD gives is never a COINCIDENCE!!!!"
He changed the lyrics for this occasion!

Yeah I heard that...

Do you know how long left it has to go?
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 18, 2012, 01:26:14 PM
Patricia Houston, Whitney's sister in law, few seconds ago: "So let the BeLIEvers beLIEve!! "




@use_your_illusio: I don't know...I think it was not announced the ending hour of the ceremony.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: iamamjbeliever on February 18, 2012, 01:27:06 PM
"Let the Believers Believe!"
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: techdiva on February 18, 2012, 01:28:09 PM
Patricia Houston Whitney's sister in law said "Let the believers believe" and BET is  showing Whitney  photos  standing like Michael (Christ like).
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: use_your_illusion on February 18, 2012, 01:35:01 PM
And the theme of the day "Let believers believe"...

Also the service has a lot to do with God (I know it's in a church and that Whitney was religious) but it just seems like it's repeated over and over again, using Bible voices, singing songs to do with God etc.


What does everyone think of the whole Bobby Brown Fiasco?

And here's the full program http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/18/whitney-houston-funeral-program/
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: diggyon on February 18, 2012, 01:49:46 PM
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@Apple...what do you make of that big  golden egyptian head of a pharoah outside the funeral home in the first video at 2:38? 
Thanks AppleHead for the video! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfruVa3ddsw&feature=player_embedded

Thanks RK for this observation! wow! OMG!

(http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/4088/egyptianhead.jpg)

Well, to me this is not a normal statue. That is a coffin. Egyptians used to put the mummies inside a coffin.  Its purpose is to protect the body from damage because the body is needed in the afterlife so the dead person (King) could live again. Coffins were put inside each other - like the russain doll - and they had a human shape.

(http://edu.glogster.com/media/5/26/40/4/26400480.jpg)

Here is a very interesting article about egyptian coffins.

http://www.touregypt.net/featurestories/coffins.htm

I am going to quote a very interesting passage from that article:

"A sarcophagus was also usually provided to hold the coffin in the tomb. The Greek etymology of "sarcophagus" is "flesh eater". However, this is not really the Egyptian interpretation. In their ancient language, the sarcophagus might be called neb ankh (possessor of life). There are several other words for coffins and sarcophagi, but perhaps the most relevant to this discussion are wet and suhet. We do not precisely understand the meaning of wet, though it appears to be derived from the words for "mummy bandage" and to embalm. The Egyptians were (and continue to be) attracted to word play, so it is likely no coincidence that another word, wetet, which would have sounded similar, meant "to beget". In other words, from the coffin the deceased will be reborn. This pun is strengthened by the word suhet, used for "inner coffins" or perhaps "mummy board". This is also the word for "egg", from which new life emerges (and hence its association with Easter)."

Egyptian Statues in tombs have several meanings. They play the role of the mummy if it is destroyed or stolen (or disappeared) from the tomb because the mummy is needed for the afterlife!

I really don't know why this statue, or coffin was put there ! Maybe it has a special meaning for the Illuminati occult! Maybe it is hoax related and plays the role of the disappeared body!!!!!




Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 18, 2012, 01:51:29 PM
@diggyon thanks for explaining the symbolism of that Egyptian coffin !! ;)


"Don`t cry for me ..... My death was meant to be..."



HOAX or not, the ceremony was truly beautiful! So much talent! so much LOVE !! and we were also given many blatant clues!!
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: techdiva on February 18, 2012, 01:56:22 PM
Ricky Minor said Whitney Houston was 5' 10". I thought she was 5'7".  She stated this in the Diane Sawyer interview.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: iamamjbeliever on February 18, 2012, 01:59:13 PM
(http://ll-media.tmz.com/2012/02/18/0218-whitney-remembering-launch-ex-1.jpg)

odd why used her middle name?
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 18, 2012, 02:01:54 PM
Yeahh !! ^^ And just like in Michael's case they are "celebrating her LIFE!! "


and again and again they joke and laugh!
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: iamamjbeliever on February 18, 2012, 02:03:23 PM
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Ricky Minor said Whitney Houston was 5' 10". I thought she was 5'7".  She stated this in the Diane Sawyer interview.

No! Whitney is a tall woman, she's not 5'7
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: use_your_illusion on February 18, 2012, 02:05:08 PM
@Sim..yep it was, didn't think it would be before I watched it, but it was...was it for you Gina.

I wanted to share a clip of Whitney singing...just WOW

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xduj-JONClo[/youtube]
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: diggyon on February 18, 2012, 02:11:07 PM
What really bothers me is Whitney's daughter that was rushed to the hospital two times the day Whitney died!!! If that was a hoax then her daughter wouldn't be in such a terrible condition!!! That is really sad!!!
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Grace on February 18, 2012, 02:25:22 PM
We are past MJ's memorial. And still not keeping a distance.


"Thank you for inviting the world into church."


"Childhood Church"


Black and white.
Crown and cross - gold and red.
White and blue flowers.
Golden hearse (golden helicopter).
Golden casket.
Celebrating a Going Home service.


Looks like Jesus is dying again and again until everybody has understood and sees eyes wide open.


Priorities.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Mijac111 on February 18, 2012, 02:27:20 PM
Hi everyone!!!
I'm new here and I'd like to say 'hi' to all of you fine people! I have been a BeLIEver from the beginning tho.

At first i was devasted to hear about Whitney and just crying and too emotional... I dunno when the hoax idea hit me... but it was a way to escape the pain even if for a few minutes... so i started to indulge the idea... and so many little things kept striking me... So i decided to google 'Whitney Houston death hoax' - you guys are the only ones talking about it really. I was so relieved and encouraged to find others thinking like me! I decided it was really high time I joined this site cuz of course like all believers I have been aware of it for a long time.

You guys have discovered some excellent clues and given me so much hope! Here's another about Jermaine's tribute song and you can hear it here on youtube:
http://www.24-7pressrelease.com/press-release-rss/jermaine-jackson-releases-whitney-houston-dedication-song-263250.php

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PoJhHAxYYw

Will be back later to check in on discussion
A BIG HUG to all my fellow believers and do SO hope Whiteney is still alive cuz I just cant stand losing her!
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: blankie on February 18, 2012, 02:35:43 PM
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@diggyon thanks for explaining the symbolism of that Egyptian coffin !! ;)


"Don`t cry for me ..... My death was meant to be..."



HOAX or not, the ceremony was truly beautiful! So much talent! so much LOVE !! and we were also given many blatant clues!!



Yes very beautiful, agree...and the coffin .....very familiar   :? ....  We, the Michael's beLIEver are here  bearhug michael-jackson/ .....I only hope, now Whitney is happy.  bearhug



Love you all...    moonwalk_/  mj_dance/
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: hesouttamylife on February 18, 2012, 02:39:22 PM
Sadly, I believe Whitney’s gone.  It feels too real to me.

On another note, right before Whitney’s sister spoke there was a woman from the back row that came down and hugged the family with some dark glasses on and straight hair like MJ's, who seemed to have some very broad shoulders  :shock:
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: susieMJ on February 18, 2012, 03:08:57 PM
As for the "Egyptian Statue/ casket" I just find it weird that the day before WH funeral, the official MJ website (michaeljackson.com/us) posted a photo of a magazine cover showing the making of "Remember the time" where we have the obvious Egyptian theme.... http://www.michaeljackson.com/us/news/magazine-cover-day-2
 Just odd how it is all linked... Some help TS?  /white flag/
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Ijustcantstoplovingu on February 18, 2012, 03:10:58 PM
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@diggyon thanks for explaining the symbolism of that Egyptian coffin !! ;)


"Don`t cry for me ..... My death was meant to be..."



HOAX or not, the ceremony was truly beautiful! So much talent! so much LOVE !! and we were also given many blatant clues!!



Yes very beautiful, agree...and the coffin .....very familiar   :? ....  We, the Michael's beLIEver are here  bearhug michael-jackson/ .....I only hope, now Whitney is happy.  bearhug



Love you all...    moonwalk_/  mj_dance/


and Steve Wonder sings about L.O.V.E.!
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: GINAFELICIA on February 18, 2012, 03:27:52 PM
All I can say is that I believe she is dead, the service was beautiful, I appreciate the pastors ' speeches and I cried at the end, when they took out the coffin and played "I will always love you".
It was around that time when I heard a loud cry, I don't know who was crying there but it was loud enough and very painful. That was not fake, it was real.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 18, 2012, 03:29:10 PM
@Mijac111: welcome among die hard beLIEvers!  bearhug
maybe after this, more sites will discuss



I received a message on my FB from someone who  thought about the same thing as me! When I heard the same accords from "I will always Love you" I immediately thought: if this is all a hoax, what if Whitney sang live!?"
What do you guys think about this? Did you hear something awkward in the song? like some change in lyrics, her tone of the voice? something? I immediately thought of Michael's memorial and "Will you be there" and the word "pains" !!
But i don't know about Whitney... I need to listen once again...we also need to pay attention to the lyrics , see if there were any changes like in MJ's case.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: GINAFELICIA on February 18, 2012, 03:30:20 PM
Oh...do they know the cause of death?
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 18, 2012, 03:34:13 PM
^^ Good question Gina!! We still don't have the "official" final cause of death!!
We just have bits of info and speculations!
What takes them so long!?


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We are past MJ's memorial. And still not keeping a distance.

"Thank you for inviting the world into church."

"Childhood Church"

Black and white.
Crown and cross - gold and red.
White and blue flowers.
Golden hearse (golden helicopter).
Golden casket.
Celebrating a Going Home service.

Looks like Jesus is dying again and again until everybody has understood and sees eyes wide open.

Priorities.
^^ wow! Grace! great finds!! ;)

I also loved that final preach about Priorities!! ;)

Also the background on CNN was PURPLE!!
And in the end they showed pictures of Whitney singing and most of them were with her in the Chris-like pose, and they also showed a pic with Michael and Whitney.... the only pic that was shown with another celeb, the rest of the pics  were only with Whitney.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: AKHTONI on February 18, 2012, 03:37:55 PM
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Hmmm.. Whitney's coffin looks familiar to MJ's.

(http://www.waleg.com/celebrities/images/mj-casket09.jpg)

(http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/2459/whitneymj.jpg)


Michael gave his coffin to witney and he asked her to not damage it so britney spears can use it again!!  :lol:
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 18, 2012, 03:48:57 PM
@AKHTONI: you just CRACKED ME UP !!! LMFAO  :lol: :lol: :lol:


I don't know but i think there will be an explosion of hoax videos on YT after all this!
WoW! I'm still stunned by what I witnessed! This was really a great, wonderful, moving, thrilling MOMENT!
Dead or Alive - Thumbs UP for Whitney and her family!  /bravo/


La Toya Jackson ON TWITTER:
Growing up JehovahWitness I had never experience a service like this. This was simply INCREDIBLE!!

esprit467 on twitter:
We heard today that "Home" is Whitneys favorite song. Its from Wiz of Oz:"And if you are listing to God, pls don`t make it hard to know-
Whitney`s goodbye to us: I wish to you joy and happiness, but above all this, I wish you love-I will always love you!
A golden casket for a king and a golden casket for a queen.


Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: msgitm on February 18, 2012, 03:52:48 PM
That was all a bit too real for me.  My doubts have turned to sadness that Whitney has really passed away.  Although I did notice familiar things, like the casket, etc., her mother and daughter clearly had a hard time.  Notice they had a nurse there checking on them throughout the ceremony.  Odd that she was dressed like an old fashion nurse, but regardless,  Whitney's mom following the casket clinched it for me.  As a mother I could feel her pain, and that of her granddaughter's. RIP Whitney :(
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Mijac111 on February 18, 2012, 03:55:55 PM
Thank you for making me feel welcome SimPattyK!!! :) It is not easy being a BeLIEver, and I just love being in the company of fellow believers. Makes me feel I'm not crazy!
I actually havent seen the Memorial cuz i didnt have the heart, but thats a very interesting point you have raised about 'I will always Love you'! I did however come across this piece of info about this tribute song Jermaine has released to Whitney written before she dies but all about losing and missing her!! The links to the article n youtubesong are on my earlier post if you'd like to check it out!
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: ~Souza~ on February 18, 2012, 04:13:05 PM
I tuned in when Stevie Wonder was singing, so I haven't seen it all yet, will watch the rest later.

I am still not very sure that this is a hoax, and whether or not it is, it was a beautiful service anyway. I was like  WTF?? when I saw the casket, the trolley underneath it and the flowers on top: deja-vu! I was like  WTF?? when at the end, when TMZ switch to the video outside, but still had audio from inside, the choir started to sing "soon and very soon" before they switched to the audio outside. I was like WTF?? when I saw Dionne Warwick stay so incredibly strong when speaking, because I remember hearing they were so close. If Whitney really died, then respect for that, I could not do that. I was like WTF?? when I heard there was a private viewing first and a "repass" you had to be invited to after, until 6:30 pm. That was another deja-vu moment. I was like WTF?? when I heard her sister-in-law say "let the believers believe". I know she is probably referring to believers in God, but she repeated it, putting emphasis on the phrase. I was like WTF?? when I heard how they wanted to get the people out of the church. First after the casket, the first 3 rows of the family, then the first 7 rows on the other side. I was like WTF?? when Rev. Marvin Winans did such a passionate sermon about faith, and about the Kingdom of God (loved him BTW, he was fantastic).

I also think the sarcophagus was pretty weird. I have no idea if there is a story behind that. I also think it's a pretty weird coincidence that TMZ posted that article about Murray and DeBarge ONE day before her death, and then the article about Whitney and DeBarge. I also think it's interesting that Raffles van Exel is again in the picture, just like with MJ. The guy is an entertainment consultant and producer. He was on the phone on Dutch TV a few days ago. I can't remember what exactly he said, but I think he said something about Whitney being so happy the night before she died. I also think it's interesting how Whitney 'knew' she was going to die, just like MJ who told Paris what to do if he died. I also think it's interesting Whitney was working on a comeback, just like MJ. And just like MJ, there will be a movie coming out with Whitney very soon. I did not hear the part in the memorial where someone said "the best is yet to come" because I didn't see it all, but if that's true, than that is mighty interesting as well. Clive said he would keep Whitney to her promise of being ready in August. Sure, he referred to  Whitney in heaven, but did he really? It's also interesting that she died in a bathtub, just like Jim Morrison. We all know many believe Jim also hoaxed his death. I also think it's interesting that Whitney's memorial was 7 days after her death, I expected the funeral to be on Friday. The memorial program was also interesting, having the same wording as MJ's (celebrating the life of). I know that is not strange in itself, but it's just another parallel. Then we have the thing about the fighting about her final resting place, just as with MJ, even referring to him. Then when we are talking about a possible WH hoax and mention we want to see a hatman before believing it, TMZ posts an article about Whitney at the pool with a HAT. That picture was courtesy of TMZ, which means they most likely had it since that day (Wednesday before her death), yet they post it days after her death, AFTER we talked about a possible hoax and hatman. Sure, could all be coincidence and some of us are probably a little crazy, but that was a little weird, you gotta admit that. Then we have the COD deferred awaiting toxicology reports, just like with Michael. And I think TMZ is wording the articles strangely, just like they did (and still do) with Michael. They also seem to be sure about what they are reporting, as if they have the same informed 'sources' as with Michael. Chappie sent me a comment on TMZ that says:

Quote
"Whitney Houston is NOT DEAD.. SHe is very much ALive.I hope now that she is OUT of the public eyes judgers .. she will get the help needed.. Please Whitney Houston get that help and get off drugs or you will die for real next time. Again Whitney Houston is NOT dead. I Swear to GOD almighty she is NOT DEAD.!!"

Like I said, I am really not sure if it's a hoax, but these things are all just too much of a deja-vu so it does make me wonder. I know some were emotional at the funeral, but you can't expect 1500 people to be in the know if it's really a hoax. The fact that it is in a church is not different from Staples for example. A church is just a building, any building can be a church if the people in the building are worshipping God, the building is not holy, so I am not bothered by that if this is a hoax. I remember that when I read Jermaine's book about MJ, he talked a lot about Whitney, more than about anyone else besides Michael. Also, IF this is a hoax, I am sure it was not planned years in advance like MJ's, which makes it less 'produced' and could therefore look more 'real'.

I am sure there are more things over the past week that I found odd or interesting, I will share if I come up with more. I really hope it's a hoax, but hoax or no hoax, this service was fantastic, at least what I've seen so far.

@Sim: that was 100% the album version of I Will Always Love You, not live or a new recording.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 18, 2012, 04:16:13 PM
@Mijac111: thank you, we discussed about Jermaine and his tribute song some pages ago.
But thanks for the link ;)


@msgitm: you're right !
What I 'feel" about this is that just like during Michael's memorial we had a strong key-emotional-moment (Paris' speech), , during Whitney's funeral, there was also one single strong emotional moment ; her mother walking behind her casket, totally looking devastated. That really had my heart like squeezed!
But when you look at the "overall picture" - we had a FUNNY funeral, with people joking and laughing most of the time, we had many clues dropped by several celebs speaking, so... Frankly I really don't know what to believe !!
I still have my doubts! strong doubts about Whitney being dead! But on the other hand, what if she did die? May God bless her soul wherever she is right now: in heaven or on MJ's island!


@Souza: wow ! great and long post! loved it! and I fully agree with you too!
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: ~Souza~ on February 18, 2012, 04:17:44 PM
Guess no one gets the chance to take a peek and see if there is really someone in that casket:


WHITNEY HOUSTON FUNERAL
Casket Under LOCKDOWN
Until Burial
(http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/18/whitney-houston-funeral-casket/)
4 MINUTES AGO BY TMZ STAFF

(http://ll-media.tmz.com/2012/02/18/0218-houston-casket-getty-ex-1.jpg)

The casket of Whitney Houston will be heavily guarded until the burial Sunday morning, with a whopping 10 security guards tasked with keeping watch on it ... TMZ has learned.

According to our sources, the casket will be kept at the cemetary until tomorrow's burial ... but will be well-protected until then.

We're told the family will get an opportunity to see Whitney one more time between now and tomorrow morning. 

Today's funeral service featured touching testimonials by Kevin Costner and Clive Davis, among others.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 18, 2012, 04:40:20 PM
Great job Souza  /bravo/ you really summed up all the important stuff that we've been discussing here for the past week...

I am also working on my Weird List about Whitney...there are still some oddities left out...

And i can't wait for the YT hoaxers to come out with videos , MagicalXcapsism2 was promising last week to come up with a new videos series in a week or 2. I'm just curious what other stuff comes up next!

I take this whole WHITNEY event, like a BAM moment in the hoax.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: mindseye on February 18, 2012, 04:48:22 PM
For now I believe she is really gone. I only saw bits of the funeral so far. It could be possible the family remembered some things that were done for Michael and wanted the same for her, such as the casket and flowers.  But who knows, almost nothing surprises me anymore. Souza and others have made some interesting points.
btw the recent topic about the 'chosen one' came to mind .... now thinking, whitney?  ;)
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Dontwalkaway on February 18, 2012, 06:28:55 PM
RK and others,

After seeing the egyptian sarcaphagus close up,  It reminds me of the one Michael bought in Las Vegas years ago.  That's really strange because , How many people really own Sarcophaguses ?  Especially in New Jersey.  It seems out of place there.
   
The Sarcaphagus, King Tut, and the great pyramid also came up when we were researching about the arc of the covenant.  The egyptian theme keeps coming up.  So this is something that makes you go hmmmmm............????

Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: paula-c on February 18, 2012, 06:30:53 PM
I did not see the funeral complete nor vi to his mother and her daughter, i wanted to look  them very specifically, if i felt a funeral very emotional and beautiful, the truth i have my doubts as to whether Whitney could be alive.
The truth is that i would like very much that she is alive.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: PureLove on February 18, 2012, 06:33:14 PM
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Have you guys noticed that neither Front or TS have said anything about WH? Strange.  Could this be the 'Project'?

If so, exactly how many celebrities are in on this extravaganza of a Thriller 2?  The taking of entertainment to the 'next level'.

Yes, TS made a comment remember about Liz Taylor after she died but TS is yet to say anything about Whitney...I was waiting for his comment and if he doesn't make it, then I will have my doubts.


Yes, me too. I was expecting TS to make a comment about her death but he didn't.  suspicious//
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: katy (MJFAN7) on February 18, 2012, 07:08:40 PM
He didn't comment on Frank DiLeo's death either.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 18, 2012, 07:26:43 PM
(http://img846.imageshack.us/img846/9245/whitneyweridlist.jpg)

I started this list the 2nd day after the news broke out about Whitney having died because I had my doubts since second 1! So I gathered all the bizarre things (coincidences, similarities, connections, oddities) , just as they appeared, just as I had noticed them or as they had been brought up in this thread by other members of this forum.
Many have made short and very clever comments, yet they were either omitted or ignored in the avalanche of events that poured one after another, this topic grew in pages as we were watching ...
So I continued the list, today, starting from no. 13 , in a chronological order, as possible...

Whitney ~ The Weird List

1. September 13th, 2001 [ 9+1+3+2+1=16 [88] ] - Whitney Houston's rep issued a shocked denial today to counter reports that the singer/actress has died  (http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/story?id=102477&page=1#.TzceE4FWqwc) (just like it happened with that Sun article about Michael having 6 months to live on December 2008)

2. Whitney's death on February 11th, 2012 [2+1+1+2+1+2 = 9] (She died at 48 [4+8 = 12 )

3. Although the cause of death is yet unknown, we are reminded of Whitney's problem with drugs! (WTF!! all the celebrities are drug addicts?? come on!! Whitney is just another friend of Michael's that mysteriously dies in such a brief period since his "death").
Something smells bad here!! The only possible way that this isn't true and that they are all dead, is that this is someone else's scenario! (read TPTB/Illuminati), otherwise... I can't explain all these similarities and coincidences!! this is all crazy!!
Mariah Carey, Orianthi, David Copperfield post their RIP messages on twitter too.
TMZ updates the initial article with this info : "She died at the Beverly Hilton Hotel. A police crime lab vehicle was seen outside the hotel[...]" and then TMZ continues to post various other articles on Whitney...

4. Several members of the Jackson family start twitting immediately after TMZ's article. Out of them all the most odd was Tito's twit:
"CAN YOU FEEL IT !!!!!!!!!
I HAVE BEEN BUSY!!!!!!!just had to pop in i and say hey
my prayers go out for Whitney and her family
what a talent! had to make time to say that
she did Michael's 30th in new york in 2001! she wowed me--
i will be back soon--promise; much love-peace and happiness"

5. Whitney was working on her comeback album! Another similarity to Michael and Elvis cases!

6. And step by step the case repeats ! TMZ informs that: Police Seek Search Warrant in Death Investigation (http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/11/whitney-houston-dead-search-warrant/#.Tzc8bYFWp3B)
What will be the next  2 news? heart attack and murder!? Then it's HIStory repeating!! identical to Michael! Sorry but this story is so similar from the beginning till now, I just can't help noticing! it's so blatant!

7. @alfarle mentioned also was getting email news notices from blackplanetnews.com making statements like "is Whitney Houston suicidal?!" . They just wouldn't leave her alone! Not only that, but also news stories saying that she was broke and on her way to being homeless. (Just like in michael's case when they were spreading rumors of him dying and being broke and all that B.S.!)

8. @hesouttamylife: "Michael Jackson “gone" before BET Awards, Amy Winehouse “gone" before VMA Awards, Whitney Houston “gone" before The Grammy Awards  :shock:   Nothing is coincidence." - So right!!! There are NO coincidences!!!

9. Whitney found dead in the bathtub? Reminded me of Britney's video EVERY TIME - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YzabSdk7ZA&ob=av2e

10. So from what TMZ is reporting, Whitney died from the same cause as Michael - "fatal mixture of drug prescriptions" and NOT drowning! TMZ also suggests it might be a heart attack.

11. And I'll add as Oddity no. 13 - Nelson de la Nuez quoting David Copperfield's twit!

12. Whitney's prescriptions came from the same pharmacy as Michael's - MICKEY Fine (Arnold Klein) - perfect connection especially with all the MICKEY Mouse-clues that I discussed about in the thread (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/smf2.0/index.php?topic=22084.0)...

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13. @fordtocarr: Sony/ATV is NOT "THE" only publisher, nor the largest, I think the second though.  YET, they hold publishing rights to the largest artists. As in ones who have "died".  Things that make you go hummmm - "Michael Jackson", Whitney Houston, John Lennon (The Beatles anyhow), Elvis Presley, James Brown, Jimi Hendrix, James Morrison

14. Funny how there was also a Dubai Fountain Tribute for Whitney , just as in Michael's case!! i take this as a wink to the island-theory! (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/smf2.0/index.php?topic=22175.250) ;)

15. @TMZ: "Diddy was hospitalized this AM for an extreme migraine ... TMZ has learned.[...]Diddy's entourage became so concerned ... they drove him to the UCLA  emergency room -- btw, the same place where Michael Jackson was pronounced dead."

16. @MJonMind: The day before she dies, Whitney seems extremely passionate about kissing and loving, almost like the goodbyes that Michael gave at Klein office, not long before his “death”.  Like she somehow KNEW...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UgobeQRcyA&feature=player_embedded

17. @Grace: Will anybody seriously consider a glass of Champagne and a Heineken being "dangerous alcohol leading to a heart attack"? See the rest of her interesting comment : here (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/smf2.0/index.php?topic=22175.250)

18. @paula-C: Then there’s the mysterious story of a leak that occurred the night before from Whitney’s group of suites. A man on the third floor right underneath Houston’s suite suddenly experienced water cascading into his bathroom from above at 2:30am. It wasn’t just a trickle. The man called security, then went upstairs to the fourth floor to see what was going on. He swears to me that it was Whitney’s bathtub that was overflowing. ( read all the post here (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/smf2.0/index.php?topic=22175.275) )
@Shamone Jackson: If that really happened, then it is a coincidence with MJ.  Wasn't there some water pipe leak from MJ's home on Carolwood?
@Grace: made an interesting comment here (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/smf2.0/index.php?topic=22175.275)

19. @techdiva: " - Did anyone noticed that Whitney Houston was taken out of the hotel in a white sheet instead a black body bag? Why did they keep her body in the room so long until the party was almost over?
-She had a reunion with El Debarge a few days of her passing.  -She said "Yes, Jesus loves me" in her final performance and she spoke to her mother and Dionne Warwick the day of her passing.  -There was indication in the news that Whitney Houston was broke and she was filing for Bankruptcy.  She said she wasn't broke.  Whitney Houston net worth is 5 million before death.  Yes, I know Michael did warn her what would happened.  She told everyone she could feel the end coming and she would see Jesus soon. This all the same week of her passing.  Yes, I strongly believe she is alive. - Also the family didn't want to televised the funeral. They wanted to have private one.  This is what the Jackson family said about Michael, but they ended up televising everything.  Yes, Michael is behind this.  People jumping in the rabbit hole.  He is saving everyone. He wants to wake up the world and I feel a big star like Whitney Houston would open that door wide!!!"

20. @Grace: How come that a "not so much important anymore since top years are gone" singer is having a suite in Beverly Hilton when allegedly she is broke? Who was paying for this? Invited? The bill went where?

21. @TMZ: "Whitney Houston Family Divided Over Burial - We're told Cissy's position is succinct:  "Michael Jackson did not want to be buried in New Jersey, and Whitney did not want to  be buried in New Jersey." - just like in Michael's case !!
@maryK: Only New Jersey connection that I can think of at the moment is the Cascio family.

22. @RK: During the pre-grammie party hosted by Clive Davis, they held a minute silence while this picture of Whitney was on the screen. Her body was still above on the 4th floor at the time. I think the picture was carefully chosen and speaks volumes. 

23. @fordtocarr: LONG article...more comparisons to Michael: http://news.yahoo.com/whitney-houston-estate-gain-questions-remain-223810535.html

24. @starlight: TMZ posted a Death Tub - why and how they obtained this??? I found it weird. Showing this for what reason? A gravy dish, oil and pointing out hair ties. It reminded me of anointing oil and two things tied together. I thought water and oil don't mix, it rises to the top. The other thing they mentioned Midol for menstrual cramps. Ladies shower during these times. The other article ordering 2 meals and showing one in the bathroom??? The Micky Fine and leaving a medical bldg 433. Articles about where to bury her GA or NJ like MJ. All perplexing. Is Mickey Fine the only game in town no CVS, Walgreens, Rite Aid or Duane Reade. It doesn't make sense.

25. @DontWalkAway: What's surprising me is the TMZ article about the bible verses she quoted before her death. The verse about Jesus' baptism.  I was just thinking about baptism yesterday after seeing the video you posted "Water Angel" and the video RK posted "Stranger in Moscow" with the rain and the birds.  We were talking about the holy spirit, and doves, feathers, and "doved up" etc.   I think it's on the Back/Front thread.  I was thinking that maybe holy water, baptism, and the holy spirit was important.  Now after seeing that TMZ article I really think it's a good idea.

26. @Wishingstar: Wasn't sure where to put this....I came across a Wiki page that talks about Hold My Hand.  It stats that it was originally written with Whitney Houston in mind.  I don't know if any of this matters, but I thought I'd at least post the information.  I don't remember seeing this....apology, if it's a doubled posted issue. Wikipedia says:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hold_My_Hand_%28Michael_Jackson_song%29

27. TMZ is really having some fun these days!  :lol: This one with the YELLOW !! flowers being stolen, kind of reminded me of Lisa's demand for more sunflowers to be brought at Forest lawn for Michael. Needless to say that they clearly connected this piece of Whitney news, to Michael again! by that blatant reference to his song "Gone Too Soon"!! http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/14/whitney-houston-dead-flowers-video-tmz-on-tv/#.TzxcXIFWp3A
So many connections!! It's just too much for this not to mean something!! http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/showbiz/news/a365676/whitney-houston-death-michael-jackson-family-call-for-privacy.html?rss

28. @hesoutofmylife: 3 of the oddest coincidences (of which I don’t believe in) are: 1. the song being initially being written for Whitney; 2. Whitney’s preoccupation with going to be with Jesus soon; (or someone Jesus like) and 3. the ONE time she was left alone in her room turned out to have been her meeting with death.  WTF ??  Sounds like it could be a plan to me, Michael. 
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29. LADY DIANA & Whitney connections (I made some photo-montages, posted on this page (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/smf2.0/index.php?topic=22175.425) )
1. Whitney's interview at Oprah (SEPT. 2009), the way she "confessed" about the troubles of her marriage with Bobby Brown and her drug issues, made me think of Lady Diana's interview with Martin BaSHIT where she "confessed" about the troubles of her marriage with Prince Charles and her bulimia issues.
2. Whitney's GOLDEN hearse (http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/14/whitney-houston-body-wingham-funeral-home-new-jersey/#.TzxirIFWp3A) being viewed by the fans in the streets of NJ, made me think of Lady Diana's hearse in the streets of London!
3. Whitney's body being flown back to Atlanta on Tyler Perry's private jet, made me think of Prince Charles who arranged for Lady Diana's body to be flown back to London.
4. WHITNEY HOUSTON Had A Premonition About Death ~ lady Diana had a death premonition, too, she knew prince Charles was trying to kill her in a car accident.
5. Interesting "coincidental" tribute to Whitney by the Jackson Estate, centered around a ROSE - We all know that lady Diana also received a lot of ROSE tributes after her death, she was called "England's Rose" from Elton John's tribute song "Candle in the Wind"


30. ELVIS & Whitney connections:
1. TMZ: "Whitney Houston made three visits to the doctor in the week prior to her death, but the trips had NO illicit purpose -- she had a sore throat and got her teeth whitened." ---)) FUNNY how ELVIS also had a last "visit" to his DENTIST just one day before his "death"!!
2. Both were avid Bible readers and used to make side-notes; both started singing in church, GOSPEL music has always been their central focus.
3. Whitney's mother sang in Elvis' choir during his '70s tours. Whitney also met Elvis...
4.   In reply to what @alfarle said: "why is it that Nancy Grace on HLN reported yesterday evening that Whitney was found on a WET FLOOR dead...rather than in the bathtub like it was reported when news first broke out that Whitney Houston was dead? Which one was it? Inside the bathtub, or on the floor?"
I said: - well that's another eery thing that reminds me of Elvis' death! in his case there were also contradictory reports : one said he was found dead in his bathroom, the other one that he was found dead in his bed.
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31. Some theories about other celebs being alive and the connections between them on  THIS PAGE (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/smf2.0/index.php?topic=22175.375)

32. @MJonMind: Have you guys noticed that neither Front or TS have said anything about WH? Strange.  Could this be the 'Project'? If so, exactly how many celebrities are in on this extravaganza of a Thriller 2?  The taking of entertainment to the 'next level'.
@use_your_illusion: Yes, TS made a comment remember about Liz Taylor after she died but TS is yet to say anything about Whitney...I was waiting for his comment and if he doesn't make it, then I will have my doubts.

33. @ilovemjforever: Do you believe everything that the Media reports? How do we know she had two drinks before 10AM?How do we know her bath water was to hot?The point is we do not know,cause we were not there.The Media,are full of shit,and i take everything they report with a grain of salt.So i have learned to use my own judgement,and ask myself what i believe happened.You cannot deny that there is a pattern that's trending with the latest celebrity deaths.

34. @paula_c: ‘Glee’ Tribute to Whitney Houston Is Cool But Creepy (LISTEN) - Ready to be a little spooked? On tomorrow night's episode of Glee, "Heart," Mercedes (Amber Riley) is singing Whitney Houston's iconic track from The Bodyguard, "I Will Always Love You." The eerie part? This was scripted prior to Houston's passing, as a total coincidence.

35. @Andrea: "TMZ-Whitney Houston Private Viewing Set for TOMORROW - We're told Bobbi Kristina will be there -- it will be the first time she's seen her mother since she passed." - We're told Bobbi Kristina will be there -- it will be the first time she's seen her mother since she passed.

36. @msgitm: Anyone see Oprah’s “Remembering Whitney” tonight on OWN?  She aired her 09 interview and made present day comments.  Lots more in the interview than what I saw on YT.  It made me wonder even more if something is going on.  Whitney at one point said “the best is yet to come”, and how tight her and “Mike” were.  Yet… she laughed many times when talking about when he “PASSED”.  AGAIN with that word... and AGAIN with laughing!!!  At the end of the special Oprah said “now you know we will always love you” then she winked in the camera.  I could get the “always love you” line but what’s up with the wink? btw - I also read her funeral will be live streamed on the net.  wth?   

37. @Pearl Jr.'s twitter:
1. The National Enquirer Put Up A FAKE WHITNEY HOUSTON DEATH PIC On The COVER Of This Week's Magazine!!! http://cdn.mediatakeout.com/54243/wtf-the-national-enquirer-put-up-a-fake-whitney-houston-death-pic-on-the-cover-of-this-week-s-magazine.html
2. Jerm's song dedicated 2 Whitney uploaded Sept 26, 2011 DEDICATING SONG 2 A WOMAN THAT'S ALIVE when he's married-Eerie - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PoJhHAxYYw
3. So Jerm, there's no such thing as coincidences huh?? Well, isn't this one or . . .Well well well-Keep Michaeling! - http://www.24-7pressrelease.com/press-release-rss/jermaine-jackson-releases-whitney-houston-dedication-song-263250.php

38. If you remember, I had posted , few pages ago on this very thread (here's the link (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/smf2.0/index.php?topic=22175.250) ), a long article on the Island - theory all related to Lindsay Lohan's movie about celebs who escape fame by faking their deaths, then hiding on a remote island. The movie director is (coincidence!) Brett Ratner, Michael's friend ! (I've talked a lot about him, too in that post ^^). Funny how the next day, TMZ posted 2 "pieces of news" about both Lindsay Lohan and Brett Ratner.

39. @RK: Seeing this video of Madonna (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/smf2.0/index.php?topic=22175.425) made me dig out Jermaine's book once more. Does anyone else remember Jermaine slamming Madonna in his book...You Are Not Alone...Michael through a brother's eyes. Then straight after, he launches into his story about working with Whitney [page 270] He draws  comparison with MJ,  saying the press was more interested in her sexual orientation and questioned her closeness with Robyn Crawford. He then gets into the intense chemistry that existed between Whitney and himself, saying their duets were turning into temptation and forbidden love.
@DontwalkAway: "Madonna confuses me.  Sometimes I think she is changed and some times I don't.  I don't know if the illuminati/superbowl ceremony was real or not ???     Maybe Madonna and others are part of the hoax.  There just acting ???  Maybe or Maybe not ?   I really hope it was a "set up" and Whitney was saved.   And if it was "real" then I hope she was warned and able to escape.  "

40. Raffles van Exel - Whitney Houston's Mystery Friend Was Also Michael Jackson's Pal - http://www.forbes.com/sites/rogerfriedman/2012/02/18/whitney-houstons-mystery-friend-was-also-michael-jacksons-pal/
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41. Whitney's Funeral ~ Oddities, clues, similarities:

1. @RK: there was a big golden Egyptian head of a Pharaoh outside the funeral home.
@diggyon: "Well, to me this is not a normal statue. That is a coffin. Egyptians used to put the mummies inside a coffin.  Its purpose is to protect the body from damage because the body is needed in the afterlife so the dead person (King) could live again."
@SusieMJ: "I just find it weird that the day before WH funeral, the official MJ website (michaeljackson.com/us) posted a photo of a magazine cover showing the making of "Remember the time" where we have the obvious Egyptian theme.... http://www.michaeljackson.com/us/news/magazine-cover-day-2 "
@Don'tWalkAway: "It reminds me of the one Michael bought in Las Vegas years ago.  That's really strange because , How many people really own Sarcophaguses ?  Especially in New Jersey.  It seems out of place there. The Sarcophagus, King Tut, and the great pyramid also came up when we were researching about the arc of the covenant.  The Egyptian theme keeps coming up.  So this is something that makes you go hmm....??"

2. @Andrea: -Watching on TMZ.  It's interesting that she died or 'died' on a Saturday and her funeral is the following Saturday, both on the Sabbath. -The choir is dressed all in white. - I don't if this has been said already but January 21 (Ark re-direct) to February 11 (Whitney's death) is exactly 21 days...777... January 21 was also a Saturday.

3. Reverends Al Sharpton and Jessie Jackson were there too!! Jessie Jackson was around Elvis, James Brown, Michael and now Whitney! He KNOWS something!
4. @jam4truth: Hmmm.. Whitney's coffin looks familiar to MJ's.
5. the song "A CHANGE has come! it's been a looong time!!"
6. Kevin Costner: "If you could just hear me now: you weren't just good enough, you were great!"
7. @Gina: I loved the speech of that pastor half an hour ago who said love is the greatest and God is love.
8. Stevie Wonder  changed the lyrics of his song for this occasion and one of the verses he sang was:"What GOD gives is never a COINCIDENCE!!!!"
9. Patricia Houston, Whitney's sister in law, said twice: "So let the BeLIEvers beLIEve!! "
10. And just like in Michael's case they are "celebrating her LIFE!! "
11. @hesoutofmylife:  "right before Whitney’s sister spoke there was a woman from the back row that came down and hugged the family with some dark glasses on and straight hair like MJ's, who seemed to have some very broad shoulders  :shock: "
12. @Grace:  We are past MJ's memorial. And still not keeping a distance. "Thank you for inviting the world into church." - "Childhood Church" -  Black and white. - Crown and cross - gold and red. - White and blue flowers.  - Golden hearse (golden helicopter). - Golden casket. - Celebrating a Going Home service. - Looks like Jesus is dying again and again until everybody has understood and sees eyes wide open. -
Priorities."
13. Also the background on CNN was PURPLE!! And in the end they showed pictures of Whitney singing and most of them were with her in the Chris-like pose, and they also showed a pic with Michael and Whitney.... the only pic that was shown with another celeb, the rest of the pics  were only with Whitney.
14. @esprit467 on twitter:  " - We heard today that "Home" is Whitney's favorite song. Its from Wiz of Oz:"And if you are listing to God, pls don`t make it hard to know. - Whitney`s goodbye to us: I wish to you joy and happiness, but above all this, I wish you love-I will always love you! A golden casket for a king and a golden casket for a queen.
15. When you look at the "overall picture" - we had a FUNNY funeral, with people joking and laughing most of the time, we had many clues dropped by several celebs speaking, so...
We still don't have the "official" final cause of death!! We just have bits of info and speculations! What takes them so long!?
16. Souza's post : click here (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/smf2.0/index.php?topic=22175.500)
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42. OTHER NUmerology Oddities:

HEART ATTACK - in the BATHTUB- 3rd July 1971 - Jim Morrison
HEART ATTACK - 16th August 1977 - Elvis "died"
HEART ATTACK - 26th June 1979 - Elvis' father died
HEART ATTACK - 25th December 2006 - James Brown died
HEART ATTACK - 25th June 2009 - MJ "died"
HEART ATTACK - 23rd March 2011 - Liz Taylor died
HEART ATTACK - 23rd July 2011 - Amy Winehouse died
HEART ATTACK - 24th August 2011 - Frank Dileo died
possible?? HEART ATTACK ?? - in the BATHTUB 11th February 2012 - Whitney Houston died

(http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/5356/21536921932940475016810.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/20/21536921932940475016810.jpg/)

I took this screen shot^^  from a video about exposing the music industry. I don't remember exactly which one from this series: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DikoLMfnEgE

@alfarle: "Someone brought this point up earlier yesterday as far as numerology goes:
2+11+12(2012)= yet another 25.... Quite strange right?"
 
- Also the total sum of Whitney's death-date is : 1+1+2+2+1+2 = 9 (probably indicating to the the 999-theory?)
- TMZ: "Bobby Brown was asked to leave Whitney Houston's funeral today ... after he got into an argument with Whitney's family over whether or not he could bring  9 people into the church with him ... TMZ has learned. "


Amazing BRAINSTORMING !! GOOD TEAMWORK!
LOVE YOU ALL!!!
  bearhug
 
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: fordtocarr on February 18, 2012, 08:28:53 PM
I'm now hearing that SONY will stand to make $1 billion off Whitney's music!!  WOW to say the least!  IF this IS a part of the huge hoax... then it is masterful for Michael and Sony because they will make a mint off not only Michael's music, but now Whitney's too.
Two, worth more dead than alive. 
How I hope it's a double hoax.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: alfarle on February 18, 2012, 08:37:07 PM
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I am sure there are more things over the past week that I found odd or interesting, I will share if I come up with more. I really hope it's a hoax, but hoax or no hoax, this service was fantastic, at least what I've seen so far.

@Sim: that was 100% the album version of I Will Always Love You, not live or a new recording.


Don't forget that Kelly Price also made a point when interviewed (after Whitney Houston's death) saying that at first when she heard the news she was really hoping that it was a "hoax"....rather than just saying that she was devastated by hearing of her passing she mentioned HOAX before accepting "reality"....That too is strange. 
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: TouchedByAnAngel on February 18, 2012, 09:05:15 PM
Hello all. I watched the Whitney Houston service on CNN today also, and saw many of the things mentioned in this thread. Did anybody hear Rev Kim Burrell sing this line

It's been a long, long time coming, but I know, whooo, a change, from mortal to Immortal change has come (2:35-2:40)

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvS9JFbRHqg[/youtube]

The mention of Immortal of course made me think of Michael

Blessed to have been,
Touched By An Angel
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: techdiva on February 18, 2012, 09:28:39 PM
My daughter asked me this question: "How many famous people have their funeral has been televised? The only famous people that I can think of are JFK, RFK, Reagen, Michael Jackon and now Whitney Houston. I don't remember Elvis funeral being televised.  Can anyone think anyone whose funeral has been on all the channels?
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Shamone Jackson on February 18, 2012, 09:42:46 PM
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My daughter asked me this question: "How many famous people have their funeral has been televised? The only famous people that I can think of are JFK, RFK, Reagen, Michael Jackon and now Whitney Houston. I don't remember Elvis funeral being televised.  Can anyone think anyone whose funeral has been on all the channels?

The Pope, Presidents and most worldwide famous people.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: scorpionchik on February 18, 2012, 09:47:08 PM
Bobby Brown Explains Why He Left Whitney Houston's Funeral
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Whitney Houston's funeral packed the inside of Newark's New Hope Baptist Church Saturday. But one notable person who was absent from the crowd was her ex-husband Bobby Brown.

A witness tells Us Weekly that Brown "was allowed to go in, pay his respects and then he had to leave. He was red-eyed going up to the casket and then left. He was there for 15 minutes."

Addressing the speculation that he was thrown out, turned away and rumors that he didn't show at all, Brown, who's schedule to perform at a concert Saturday, has released an official statement, explaining the situation in full.

"My children and I were invited to the funeral of my ex-wife Whitney Houston. We were seated by security and then subsequently asked to move on three separate occasions. I fail to understand why security treated my family this way and continue to ask us and no one else to move. Security then prevented me from attempting to see my daughter Bobbi Kristina. In light of the events, I gave a kiss to the casket of my ex-wife  and departed as I refused to create a scene. My children are completely distraught over the events. This was a day to honor Whitney. I doubt Whitney would have wanted this to occur. I will continue to pay my respects to my ex-wife the best way I know how."

Earlier this week, a source told Us that there is still underlying tension between Houston's relatives and Brown, who married Houston in 1992. Their divorce was finalized in 2007.

"There are family members who felt Bobby drove Whitney into drugs," one source explained. "But now Bobby is clean and Whitney has unfortunately passed. So there's resentment."


Guys, you can't make out of everything hoax, it is a paranoia. Come on.
What is the MOTIVE for Whitney to hoax her death?   We know many MOTIVES for Michael to hoax his death and Michael certainly much more high profile celebrity than Whitney, Michael went through much worse things than Whitney.  Michael's hoax is 99.99% certainty,
 but Whitney no. RIP dear.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Aidan_81 on February 18, 2012, 09:59:51 PM
I agree scorpionchik, she's gone, in a better world now, among better souls.
We shouldn't lose touch with reality.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: 2good2btrue on February 18, 2012, 11:18:37 PM
I too believe Whitney has gone...but I must say I was in tears watching the funeral...Music is L.O.V.E...such an uplifting service...the coffin does look earily similar to MJ's and James Brown's..

Hearing the  mother or daughter "wailing" emotionally as the coffin was taken out, sealed the deal for me...........

This famililies religious faith is too strong to even imagine they would go through with such a deceit and LIE.........Sorry...RIP Whitney.

IMO.....It is more likely that she was murdered than faked her death........God bless and respect to all..
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Mijac111 on February 18, 2012, 11:27:00 PM
Wow SimPattyK!!! Thank you for putting together that list! must hv taken you a lot of time! Do you know which pic was shown at the pre-grammy party when her body was lying 4 floors above? the one you said speasks volumes?
I hv been so miserable between my cold and losing Whitney, but things are looking up!
 penguin/
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: blankie on February 18, 2012, 11:35:44 PM
 typing/  I agree with you Scorpionchick   typing/  crash/ bearhug
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: RK on February 18, 2012, 11:36:14 PM
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(http://worldtruth.tv/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/417994_372273609466796_100000524791925_1373873_1175124079_n-650x4121.jpg)

During the pre-grammie party hosted by Clive Davis, they held a minute silence while this picture of Whitney was on the screen. Her body was still above on the 4th floor at the time.
I think the picture was carefully chosen and speaks volumes.

@Mijac111 This is the picture of Whitney used during the minutes silence at the pre-party.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Grace on February 19, 2012, 01:22:15 AM
I think we are on a complete different level after almost 3 years and are dealing (are expected to be dealing) with what is being shown to us completely differently.
We are now knowing and understanding, yet hesitating, waiting and watching.
I could only watch the last part of the service so my picture is certainly incomplete.


What hit me after the service which was very touching (and very much celebrating african-american spiritual culture - thanks so much for inviting us in):

The city is called Newark - New Ark.

The funeral service is called Whigham.
To whig is a Scottish expression for to spur so / sth on (usually horses).
There were police horses outside the church - I have no idea why since the area was well secured.
Ham is an adjective to express an excessive overdoing of an actor.

Not to be misunderstood:
there really is a funeral service called Whigham at Newark, NJ.
Interestingly, their address is 580 Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. Blvd.
http://www.whighamfuneralhome.com/ (http://www.whighamfuneralhome.com/)
And if you thought a "W" would be the logo for the website of this family owned company - it is not.
It is "M" made of mirror frames with a pocket watch beneath.
The "W" appears on the obituary.


It struck me as odd to find these names in the complete picture for Whitney.
In addition, there was no garbage bin. What we saw could not have been garbage, right?

So I checked for "horses" in a biblical / spiritual meaning and came across the following.


Horse, White Horse
That the white horse is the understanding of the Word as to its interiors, or what is the same, the internal sense of the Word, is evident from the signification of a horse, as being the intellectual faculty.  In the prophetic parts of the Word a horse and a rider are often named; but no one has hitherto known that a horse signifies the faculty of understanding, and a rider one who is intelligent--as in the prophecy of Jacob, then Israel, respecting Dan:-- Dan shall be a serpent upon the way, an arrow-snake upon the path, biting the horse's heels, and his rider shall fall backward.  I wait for Thy salvation, O Jehovah (Gen. 49:17, 18).
That a serpent is one who reasons concerning Divine arcana from the senses and from memory-knowledges, may be seen above (AC 195 (http://biblemeanings.info/Bible/Genesis/ch3,v1-m.htm#AC195)); also that a way and a path" are truth (AC 627 (http://biblemeanings.info/Bible/Genesis/ch6,v12-m.htm#AC627), 2333 (http://biblemeanings.info/Bible/Genesis/ch19,v2-m.htm#AC2333)); and that the heel is the lowest of the natural (AC 259 (http://biblemeanings.info/Bible/Genesis/ch3,v15-m.htm#AC259)); a horse is the understanding of the Word; and a rider he that teaches.  Hence it is manifest what these prophetic words signify, namely, that one who reasons concerning the truths of faith from the senses and from memory-knowledges, sticks fast in the lowest things of nature only, and thus believes nothing, which is to fall backward; wherefore it is added, I wait for Thy salvation, O Jehovah.

[2] In Habakkuk:-- O God, Thou dost ride upon Thy horses, Thy chariots are salvation, Thou hast made Thy horses to tread in the sea (Habakkuk 3:8, 15); where horses denote the Divine truths which are in the Word;  chariots, doctrine from them; the sea, knowledges (AC 28 (http://biblemeanings.info/Bible/Genesis/ch1,v9-13-m.htm#AC28), 2120 (http://biblemeanings.info/Bible/Genesis/ch17-inf.htm#AC2120)); and because these are of the understanding of the Word from God, it is said, Thou hast made Thy horses to tread in the sea. Horses are here attributed to God, as in the Apocalypse, above; to whom they cannot be attributed unless they signify such things.

[3] In David:-- Sing unto God, sing praises to His name, extol Him that rideth upon the clouds, by His name Jah (Ps. 68:4); to ride upon the clouds denotes the understanding of the Word as to its interiors, or in its internal sense. A cloud is the Word in the letter, in which is the internal sense (AC 2135a (http://biblemeanings.info/Bible/Genesis/ch17-inf.htm#AC2135a)).

[4] In the same:-- Jehovah bowed the heavens, and came down, and thick darkness was under His feet; and He rode upon a cherub (Ps. 18:9, 10); thick darkness here denotes clouds; to ride upon a cherub represents the Lord's providence lest man should of himself enter into the mysteries of faith which are in the Word (AC 308 (http://biblemeanings.info/Bible/Genesis/ch3,v23-24-m.htm#AC308)).  In Zechariah:-- In that day shall there be upon the bells of the horses, Holiness unto Jehovah (Zechariah 14:20); the bells of the horses denote the understanding of the spiritual things of the Word, which are holy.

[5] In Jeremiah:-- There shall enter in by the gates of this city kings and princes, sitting upon the throne of David, riding in chariot and on horses, they, and their princes, the men of Judah, and the inhabitants of Jerusalem, and this city shall be inhabited forever (Jeremiah 17:25, 26; 22:4); the city Jerusalem denotes the Lord's spiritual kingdom and church; kings, truths (AC 1672 (http://biblemeanings.info/Bible/Genesis/ch14,v5-m.htm#AC1672), 2015 (http://biblemeanings.info/Bible/Genesis/ch17,v6-m.htm#AC2015), 2069 (http://biblemeanings.info/Bible/Genesis/ch17,v16-m.htm#AC2069)); princes, the primary precepts of truth (AC 1482 (http://biblemeanings.info/Bible/Genesis/ch12,v14-15-m.htm#AC1482), 2089 (http://biblemeanings.info/Bible/Genesis/ch17,v20-m.htm#AC2089)); David, the Lord (AC 1888 (http://biblemeanings.info/Bible/Genesis/ch16-inf.htm#AC1888)); the men of Judah and the inhabitants of Jerusalem, those who are in the good of love, of charity, and of faith (AC 2268 (http://biblemeanings.info/Bible/Genesis/ch18,v28-m.htm#AC2268), 2451 (http://biblemeanings.info/Bible/Genesis/ch19,v25-m.htm#AC2451), 2712 (http://biblemeanings.info/Bible/Genesis/ch21,v21-m.htm#AC2712)); thus to ride upon a chariot and upon horses means to be instructed in the doctrine of truth from the internal understanding of the Word.

[6] In Isaiah:-- Then shalt thou delight thyself in Jehovah, and I will make thee to ride upon the high places of the earth, and I will feed thee with the heritage of Jacob (Isaiah 58:14); to ride upon the high places of the earth denotes intelligence.  In David:-- A song of loves: Gird Thy sword upon Thy thigh, O mighty one, Thy glory and Thy majesty; and in Thy majesty go forward, ride upon the word of truth, and of the gentleness of righteousness, and Thy right hand shall teach Thee wonderful things (Ps. 45:3, 4); to ride upon the word of truth manifestly denotes the understanding of truth; and upon the word of the gentleness of righteousness, the wisdom of good.

[7] In Zechariah:-- In that day, saith Jehovah, I will smite every horse with astonishment, and his rider with madness; and I will open Mine eyes upon the house of Judah, and will smite every horse of the peoples with blindness (Zechariah 12:4, 5); where also the horse manifestly denotes the understanding, which would be smitten with astonishment and blindness; and the rider him that understands, who would be smitten with madness.  In Hosea:-- Take away all iniquity, and accept that which is good, and we will render the bullocks of our lips.  Asshur shall not save us; we will not ride upon horses; and we will no more say to the work of our hands, Thou art our god (Hosea 14:2, 3);

http://biblemeanings.info/Words/Animal/Horse.htm (http://biblemeanings.info/Words/Animal/Horse.htm)



"So I prophesied as he commanded me, and the breath came into them, and they lived, and stood up upon their feet, an exceeding great army." (Ezek 37:10)

http://www.tabernacleofmoses.org/chapter10.html (http://www.tabernacleofmoses.org/chapter10.html)



This is what arrives at my house from the sources above:

a horse is the understanding of the Word; and a rider he that teaches

those who are in the good of love, of charity, and of faith thus to ride upon a chariot and upon horses means to be instructed in the doctrine of truth from the internal understanding of the Word.
http://biblemeanings.info/Words/Animal/Horse.htm (http://biblemeanings.info/Words/Animal/Horse.htm)


UNDERSTANDING
KNOWING
ARMY WITH THE SPIRITS OF THE HEAVENS AND CLOTHED IN WHITE LINEN
TEACHING
NOT LOOKING BACK OR RETURNING BACK
GOING FULL SPEED FORWARDS



Blessings.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: diggyon on February 19, 2012, 02:56:14 AM
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RK and others,

After seeing the egyptian sarcaphagus close up,  It reminds me of the one Michael bought in Las Vegas years ago.  That's really strange because , How many people really own Sarcophaguses ?  Especially in New Jersey.  It seems out of place there.
   
The Sarcaphagus, King Tut, and the great pyramid also came up when we were researching about the arc of the covenant.  The egyptian theme keeps coming up.  So this is something that makes you go hmmmmm............????



This is a video I found  on youtube about the coffin of King Tut Ankh Amun that Michael bought a replica of.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMiexC4tC_A&feature=related[/youtube]

This is how the real golden coffin looks like.

(http://mcclungmuseum.utk.edu/research/reoccpap/tombs/king_tut_gold.jpg)

Of course it is similar to the one at the memorial of Whitney!!!!!!!!!

Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 19, 2012, 04:48:12 AM
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Michael's hoax is 99.99% certainty,  but Whitney no. RIP dear.

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Guys, you can't make out of everything hoax, it is a paranoia. Come on.

Don't forget that to many people out there your certainty is a paranoia.

Don't forget to respect other people's opinions even if you think differently.

We can't know for sure if they're alive OR not. We have doubts and clues. Some SEE them, some not. To some they MEAN something, to some they don't! That's it.
And I think one thing we should have learned in these 3 years is to accept the fact that people think differently!! and there's no need to label them or offend them just because we don't agree with them.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 19, 2012, 04:59:55 AM
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I think we are on a complete different level after almost 3 years and are dealing (are expected to be dealing) with what is being shown to us completely differently.
We are now knowing and understanding, yet hesitating, waiting and watching.
 [....]
^^ ;)


Your entire post is amazing, Grace!
It would have never occurred to me to look at the details you just "dissected" ! WOW! :shock:
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: diggyon on February 19, 2012, 05:01:36 AM
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Michael's hoax is 99.99% certainty,  but Whitney no. RIP dear.

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Guys, you can't make out of everything hoax, it is a paranoia. Come on.

Don't forget that to many people out there your certainty is a paranoia.

Don't forget to respect other people's opinions even if you think differently.

We can't know for sure if they're alive OR not. We have doubts and clues. Some SEE them, some not. To some they MEAN something, to some they don't! That's it.
And I think one thing we should have learned in these 3 years is to accept the fact that people think differently!! and there's no need to label them or offend them just because we don't agree with them.

yeah Sim, I agree with you ! ! ! Great list!!!! Oh boy, what a hoax ! ! !
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 19, 2012, 05:42:45 AM
hummmm... Interesting NEW video by YT channel - ElvisFantasay! especially taking into account the latest events...  ;)

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWfC73cmaj4&feature=share[/youtube]


I also love this tribute video to Michael & Whitney

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J29gIHVFGB0[/youtube]


@diggyon: ;)
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: MJonmind on February 19, 2012, 06:01:23 AM
SimPattyK
Quote
1. @RK:there was a big golden Egyptian head of a Pharaoh outside the funeral home.
@diggyon:"Well, to me this is not a normal statue. That is a coffin. Egyptians used to put the mummies inside a coffin.  Its purpose is to protect the body from damage because the body is needed in the afterlife so the dead person (King) could live again."
@SusieMJ:"I just find it weird that the day before WH funeral, the official MJ website (michaeljackson.com/us) posted a photo of a magazine cover showing the making of "Remember the time" where we have the obvious Egyptian theme.... http://www.michaeljackson.com/us/news/magazine-cover-day-2 (http://www.michaeljackson.com/us/news/magazine-cover-day-2)"
@Don'tWalkAway:"It reminds me of the one Michael bought in Las Vegas years ago.  That's really strange because , How many people really own Sarcophaguses ?  Especially in New Jersey.  It seems out of place there. The Sarcophagus, King Tut, and the great pyramid also came up when we were researching about the arc of the covenant.  The Egyptian theme keeps coming up.  So this is something that makes you go hmm....??"
2. @Andrea:-Watching on TMZ.  It's interesting that she died or 'died' on a Saturday and her funeral is the following Saturday, both on the Sabbath. -The choir is dressed all in white. - I don't if this has been said already but January 21 (Ark re-direct) to February 11 (Whitney's death) is exactly 21 days...777... January 21 was also a Saturday.
Amazing!  Also in Madonna's show, there was a black Pharoah bust beside her throne on the floor.

Grace
Quote
The city is called Newark - New Ark.
afraid/

The Egyptians firmly believed in the after-life. MJ in the video with Bashir says he doesn't ever want to be buried, because he wants to live forever!  Remember the Time, is reminding us that time is making a full circle here. HIStory is being presented to us as one unit. One mega illustration, lesson. The design of the Ark was very similar to the throne of the Pharoah, and Moses was raised in the Egyptian court as the Pharoah's son. Moses was the conduit for God to speak to the Israelites, instructing for the building of the Ark, and the giving of the law of God. This introduces the whole plan of salvation through the shed blood of animal sacrifice-- pointing to Christ's complete sacrifice for all mankind. He will usher in the resurrection of the dead--the true afterlife, because the body, soul and spirit's sleep at death knows nothing until that day. TS is strongly linking the RW discovery of the Ark to the EOW, in the Biblical sense.

I'm really starting to believe all these pieces are connected. Michael, Front and TS have hinted that there is so much more to come. We have to start acting like beLIEvers, trusting in Michael, as Front said. Grace I agree with your admonition above about the different level after 3 years--we should KNOW by now.  He has an 'army' backing him in all this IMO.
Also, who is this mysterious person,Raffles van Exel, who saw WH in the bathtub dead, and also knew MJ well. Similar to Elvis' wax body in the casket and MJ's ambulance situation, could a well-made dummy looking just like her have been slipped into the water.  I wonder if the Fire trucks and paramedics involved are some of the same as for MJ's 'death' scene. Hotels have overhead large vents possibly big enough for a human to fit into, and also the bathroom window could have been used for escape with the help of professional climbers. It seems to me that the tables with food and drugs outside and inside the bathroom look very set up, to make the death look very believable--alcohol/drug was the deadly cocktail expected by everyone.

I really enjoyed reading all the many thoughts posted! I hate when I'm working so much, and I fall behind here.
/overreacting/
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: GINAFELICIA on February 19, 2012, 06:07:17 AM
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Hearing the  mother or daughter "wailing" emotionally as the coffin was taken out, sealed the deal for me...........


Yeah, that was it for me too. There was a lot of pain in it :( .
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: MJonmind on February 19, 2012, 06:25:51 AM
I missed the funeral, but just watched the clip of them carrying the coffin out of the church. I have never before seen the poll bearers carry the casket on their shoulders with their hands free, which reminds me of TS' post of the men carrying the Ark on their shoulders. Has anyone seen this method done before?


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Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Grace on February 19, 2012, 06:33:25 AM
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Grace I agree with your admonition above about the different level after 3 years--we should KNOW by now.

Not intended as any admonition.
It is how I feel.
Way beyond figuring out how to do a spin.
We are in the choreography now where everybody having rehearsed alone so far is getting into the big overall frame.


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TS is strongly linking the RW discovery of the Ark to the EOW, in the Biblical sense.

 Just because TS is linking to a topic does not mean s/he believes in it.
But sure wants to draw attention to it.
 Agent provocateur?
That's an important and pretty difficult task - expanding horizons and encouraging mind work.
It could be the opposite meaning, too.
Think of Asian masters.
Do it left turn or right turn. What's the big friggin' difference?
A whole world.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: suspicious mind on February 19, 2012, 08:26:33 AM
had to leave for work right after r kelly sang i look to you. does anyone know where i might few the rest?
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: applehead250609 on February 19, 2012, 10:42:38 AM
Today is the FINAL day,Whitney last road  :( .Whitney is going in a "place" where all of us will go some day  :-\ .

Whitney Houston Laid to Rest ["LIVE"]   
http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/19/whitney-houston-burial-livestream/#.T0ElGnn3CmV (http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/19/whitney-houston-burial-livestream/#.T0ElGnn3CmV)
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: ilovemjforever on February 19, 2012, 10:53:16 AM
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Did anyone notice,the strange looking lady,near the piano with the black on.Why is she there with the choir.Why is she wearing black?To me it looks like a man,with a bad wig on.Is this Elvis in disguise,lol.I want to know what you guys think.Maybe its nothing,but it struck me as odd.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: MaryK on February 19, 2012, 11:11:32 AM
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Did anyone notice,the strange looking lady,near the piano with the black on.Why is she there with the choir.Why is she wearing black?To me it looks like a man,with a bad wig on.Is this Elvis in disguise,lol.I want to know what you guys think.Maybe its nothing,but it struck me as odd.
She´s the piano player. That´s why she´s sitting besides the piano.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 19, 2012, 11:53:46 AM
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Interesting ending of her manager's speech, Clive Davis, I can't reproduce his words right now ,
 but to me it sounded like: "The Best is yet to come!", and he spoke in 2nd person singular,
like Whitney could still hear him. Just like Kevin did!
Can someone pls reproduce his exacts words?
I have found his speech in written form:
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-31749_162-57380883-10391698/whitneys-raising-the-roof-in-heaven-clive-davis-says/

The words in bold sounded to me like there's something to come, like the Best is yet to come!

"[...]And she looked at me and quietly said, 'I want you to know I'm getting in shape. I'm swimming an hour or two a day. And I'm committed to get my high notes back. No cigarettes, plenty of vocal exercising. Clive, I'll be ready by August.' Well,Whitney, I'm going to hold you to it. [applause ] Everyone in heaven, including God, is waiting. And I just know you're going to raise the roof like no one else has done before."

^^ Interesting ending for a speech about a dead person, especially with Whitney's own promise quoted.
I think it leaves place for many interpretations:
- spiritual thought?
- movie about to be released and stun the industry?
- she's alive?
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: ilovemjforever on February 19, 2012, 11:56:17 AM
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Did anyone notice,the strange looking lady,near the piano with the black on.Why is she there with the choir.Why is she wearing black?To me it looks like a man,with a bad wig on.Is this Elvis in disguise,lol.I want to know what you guys think.Maybe its nothing,but it struck me as odd.
She´s the piano player. That´s why she´s sitting besides the piano.
yeah i noticed,she was playing the piano yesterday,but who is she/he.I do not think she is a woman.There were a lot of strange things i noticed about her during the service yesterday.Like her hands not matching her face,and when the camera zoomed in on her,she would hide her hands.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Dontwalkaway on February 19, 2012, 11:56:36 AM
Grace,

I didn't even realize Newark = New + Ark
They said that was Whitney's childhood church so maybe that's just a coincidence ?

A lot of other themes keep coming up such as the egyptians and resurrection/afterlife, "water", prescription drugs and more.

Love You All
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 19, 2012, 12:15:20 PM
@ilovemjforever: interesting remark you made.
I don't know who that lady was. maybe we will find soon.
I don't think it was someone in disguise, but maybe I'm wrong.
Butt I must admit she also caught my attention, I don't know why! maybe her hair that really is hard to miss loll and the fact that she was in black while everyone else in that area was in white.
maybe the fact that she seemed to enjoy so much the performance of artists singing, she always had an expression on her face.

Anyway you just "implanted" a bug in my head!! could be??
But it looks more like Michael's cheeks rather than Elvis!
Elvis has a round-oval face, that woman had wide -squared like jaws....
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: msgitm on February 19, 2012, 12:22:09 PM
Even though I think Whitney has sadly passed away - what I found the most odd at the funeral was the nurse dressed in a uniform right out of the 50's.  I have not seen a nurse dress like this since my mother's nursing days, and even that is through old pictures.  This nurse was back and forth to Whitney's mom and daughter.  Why she was NOT dressed in normal clothes has me baffled.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 19, 2012, 12:37:37 PM
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[...]what I found the most odd at the funeral was the nurse dressed in a uniform right out of the 50's.  I have not seen a nurse dress like this since my mother's nursing days, [...]
lmao  :lol: :lol: :lol:



So freakin' BizARRE!!!

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http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/19/whitney-houston-funeral-aretha-frranklin/#.T0E_9nlWqwc
Aretha Franklin canceled her scheduled appearance at Whitney Houston's funeral service in New Jersey yesterday afternoon ... but was well enough to perform at Radio City Music Hall that night.

Aretha said she had been suffering from leg spasms and wanted to rest up for her show, rather than travel for the funeral. She released a statement, saying in part, "heart goes out to my dear friend Cissy, Dionne, Bobbi Kristina and the rest of the family. May God keep them all."
The Queen of Soul dedicated a portion of her show to Whitney, and also to Nick Ashford, who passed away last August.



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Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 19, 2012, 12:53:15 PM
Marlon Jackson5 on twitter:
"Whitney's coming home event was great I really enjoyed it. Sucsess in life in not so much determined by our achievements in life but more by the influence we leave upon others. Whitney's was un-questionably a sucess. The world will miss her, Study Peace. Must run thank you all for your support of our family. Study Peace."



I thought of this twittercomment to be very true , very interesting!!
Ugo MOE-ZEE-AYY on twitter:
"The fact this is on CNN is BEYOND Amazing to me. Whitney Houston has Muslims in Iraq and Jews in Israel watching a sermon on global TV. Amen"
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: msgitm on February 19, 2012, 01:07:18 PM
Looking at the pics of the "viewing" the night before - I did wonder about the Egyptian theme right away but what got me most was why the family were all dressed like slobs?  Dionne Warwick looked like she just came from the gym.  Not very respectful.
I'm still thinking Whitney has died but the odd things keep pulling one foot back on the fence.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: ~Souza~ on February 19, 2012, 01:18:05 PM
Sorry, but that woman behind the piano really looks like a woman to me...
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: ilovemjforever on February 19, 2012, 01:34:16 PM
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Sorry, but that woman behind the piano really looks like a woman to me...
You are probably right Souza,i guess my hoax eyes were too focused on finding something hoax related.I really believe Whitney was sacrificed,but i cant underestimate Micheal and his divine vision.   
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: diggyon on February 19, 2012, 02:05:11 PM
I must admit that i missed " Mr. hatman"! I was wondering if he would show up. But unfortunately he did not!!!! May be he was late and didn't make it to the funeral ! ! !  ???/
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: GINAFELICIA on February 19, 2012, 02:11:58 PM
no hatman no hoax
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: diggyon on February 19, 2012, 02:18:23 PM
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no hatman no hoax

agree, unless proven otherwise !
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: sigh on February 19, 2012, 02:24:49 PM
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no hatman no hoax

 :lol:


Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: GINAFELICIA on February 19, 2012, 02:37:01 PM
 ;D :twisted:
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: diggyon on February 19, 2012, 02:46:36 PM
Missing     :-\


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Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: msgitm on February 19, 2012, 03:05:39 PM
There were plenty of hat men there.  Saw one with a bowler hat, like MJ wore in his Charlie Chaplin photos.  I don't think it has to be a fedora, that's getting old.  Still not sure this is a hoax though.  Seemed all too real for me, sadly.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: AKHTONI on February 19, 2012, 03:08:21 PM
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Missing     :-\


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even the blond lady is missing. have anyone maybe noticed a lady who look like a blond  Hanging around there?????  :lol:
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: msgitm on February 19, 2012, 03:28:20 PM
Here's a hat lady, if that helps!?!  I'm sure there's better footage of her out there (she was seen throughout the funeral) but here is a snipit of nurse lady a la 1950.  Still can't figure out why she was dressed like that.

[embed=425,349]http://youtu.be/MWzk4Mf-Njw[/embed]
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: blankie on February 19, 2012, 03:36:38 PM
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no hatman no hoax


Right !!!!!!    :lol:  crash/
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: paula-c on February 19, 2012, 03:45:25 PM
Whitney Houston and the 2012 Grammy Awards Mega-Ritual

The 2012 Grammy Awards took place in a horrible context: the wake of the sudden, mysterious death of Whitney Houston. The show went on nevertheless … but not without a great deal of strange symbols and events that made one thing very clear: There is a definite dark side to the entertainment business. We will look at the facts surrounding Whitney Houston’s death, the symbolic elements of the 2012 Grammy Awards (including Nikki Minaj’s ritualistic performance) and see how the ceremony turned into another mega-ritual.
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I had a feeling that in 2012 the occult agenda of the entertainment industry would be kicked in high gear. I was right: In the span of a week, the most important night in sports (the Superbowl – see the article about it here) and music (the Grammys) were infused with ritualistic elements witnessed by millions of viewers. While the Superbowl half-time show lasted only 13 minutes, the ritual surrounding the Grammys lasted for days and its aftermath is still going on as odd facts and accounts regarding Whitney Houston continue to surface in the media.

This article will list several facts and events that took place before, during and after the Grammy Awards that have a symbolic significance in the grand scheme of things. While some of the facts mentioned here might have been the result of coincidence or poor timing, they still came together in one big, classic case of synchronicity. In other words, apparent coincidences sometimes reveal an underlying pattern behind events.



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“Carl Jung described synchronicity as ” the experience of two or more events that are apparently causally unrelated or unlikely to occur together by chance and that are observed to occur together in a meaningful manner. Synchronistic events reveal an underlying pattern, a conceptual framework that encompasses, but is larger than, any of the systems that display the synchronicity. Concurrent events that first appear to be coincidental but later turn out to be causally related are termed incoincident.”




When we look at the facts and the occurrences surrounding Whitney Houston’s death coupled with the symbolic elements of the 2012 Grammy awards, the entire “event” has the looks of an occult ritual, complete with a blood sacrifice, a celebration and even a “re-birth”. Some of the things described below were pre-planned, while others were possibly just odd coincidences. However, the overwhelming and almost palpable energy emanating from the 2012 Grammys definitely made some things align in a synchronistic fashion. Let’s look at the most significant events that happened during that fateful weekend.


Strange Facts Surrounding Whitney Houston’s Death

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If you read other articles on this site, you probably noticed that everything surrounding Whitney Houston’s is astonishingly on-par with other celebrity “sacrifices”. Accounts of strange events before the death, bizarre behavior of the authorities when the death was discovered, conflicting reports, vagueness surrounding the cause of the death and, to top it off, a worrying “response” from the music industry through the Grammys. Her case followed the same pattern as several other celebrity deaths that were blamed on drugs  despite many conflicting reports. As it was the case for these other celebrities, the media almost automatically launched a campaign depicting Whitney as a hopeless drug addict. Maybe she was a drug addict, but that might only be the tip of the iceberg … a symptom of the true illness that killed Whitney: the music business.


Strange Events

As in the cases of Michael Jackson, Amy Winehouse, Heath Ledger, Brittany Murphy and many others, bizarre events preceded and followed the death of Whitney Houston. After reviewing all of those accounts, one cannot help but wonder: Was Whitney’s death truly an accident or was it a deliberate sacrifice planned by “unseen forces”? While most media reports drum into people’s heads that “Whitney Houston = Drugs”, some sources reveal other details that might lead to other paths of thinking. Here’s Roger Friedman’s account of things that happened at the Beverly Hilton on February 11th:


Whitney’s Death: An Earlier Incident?
Whitney Houston’s death made for a long day’s journey into night at the Beverly Hilton. While the Clive Davis Grammy dinner had to proceed downstairs in the ballroom–with 800 guests already filing in as the news was breaking–Whitney remained in state, so to speak, in her fourth floor suite. She was not removed until just moments before the party ended–a little after midnight. She’d been in the suite, discovered in her bathtub. But there were many people in the suite when this happened at 3:50pm including her daughter Bobbi Kristina, her brother Gary, sister in law Pat Houston, and another player in this story — a nightlife friend who’d been guiding her around town the last few days as she was photographed in states of duress.

What you don’t know is that around 11pm, paramedics were called back to the fourth floor. Security and police raced back to the 4th floor. A medical wheelchair with restraints was brought in through the back entrance to the hotel. Bobbi Kristina “freaked out”–well, she’d been upstairs for hours with her mother’s dead body in the next room. It was understandable. The paramedics thought they were going to to have to take her to the hospital. But calm was restored. For ten minutes, though, security cleared the entire lobby of the hotel while the concert was going on inside the ballroom. I was out there at that moment, and it was one of the strangest scenes ever.

Then there’s the mysterious story of a leak that occurred the night before from Whitney’s group of suites. A man on the third floor right underneath Houston’s suite suddenly experienced water cascading into his bathroom from above at 2:30am. It wasn’t just a trickle. The man called security, then went upstairs to the fourth floor to see what was going on. He swears to me that it was Whitney’s bathtub that was overflowing. He also says that a flat screen television had been been broken–the screen was smashed. My sources at the hotel say there was a “leak” but that it wasn’t from Whitney’s room. “They [her group] have a lot of rooms up there,” says the hotel source. My source, this man, insists that he was told it was Whitney Houston’s room. It does seem to have been part of her group of rooms.

There are many mysteries here. None of them have been reported or solved by TMZ or one of the other muckracking tabloids. I know the man who had to pull Whitney out of the bathtub yesterday and attempt to give her CPR. He told me, “She was already dead. There was nothing I could do.”

More on Whitney’s death and the Grammy party follows in the next post. And believe me, dear readers, this isn’t easy. I’ve known Whitney Houston and her family for over 25 years. She was a beautiful girl with a big heart. She was full of optimism. Her mother is one of the finest people. The people who worked for and with her were devoted to her. When the shock turns to anger there will be a lot of finger pointing. But in the end, Whitney ruled her own world.
- Source: Forbes



I am not a criminal investigator and I cannot solve all of the mysteries surrounding Whitney’s death but the fact that her body was there for hours, while a pre-Grammy party was happening just below is a little off-putting. Why wasn’t it simply cancelled?  Isn’t the presence of the dead body of a legendary singer in the same exact location as the party reason enough to cancel it? Was there some type of twisted thrill of partying right below Houston’s body?

In another article, Roger Friedman noted the presence of a strange “Hollywood insider” lurking around Whitney Houston that was also around Michael Jackson during his “difficult periods”. Who is that guy?




Whitney Houston’s Mystery Friend Was Also Michael Jackson’s Pal
Here’s the one person in the Whitney Houston story whose name you have not heard, and who has remained a mystery: a Dutch man from Amsterdam who goes by the name of Raffles van Exel. He is also known – in court records—as Raffles Dawson and Raffles Benson. He was on the fourth floor of the Beverly Hilton Hotel in one of Houston’s suites when she died. He appeared downstairs in the lobby shortly thereafter, wearing aviator sunglasses, sobbing.

As usual, he had an entourage in tow, including Quinton Aaron, the actor who played the football player in “The Blind Side.” Raffles, in one of his many PR Newswire releases, recently announced that he’s producing movies with Aaron. It’s just one of many ventures he announces regularly. For someone who has no obvious means of support, he is a regular on PR Newswire and You Tube. On the latter, you can find him interviewing friends of Michael Jackson. It is assumed that he sells stories to tabloids. He regularly includes names of tabloid reporters like Kevin Frazier of “The Insider” on his Tweets.

Despite the shock of Whitney’s death, Raffles still made it downstairs to Clive Davis’s party. He was dressed in formal wear, had Whitney’s tickets in his hand, and intended  to sit at her table. Just inside the ballroom he was comforted by celebrities to whom he related his story—“I found Whitney.”  Gayle King hugged him. Quincy Jones listened patiently to his story. A security guard told me later, “Well, he was up there.” He was also hanging around with Houston all week prior to her death. On Tuesday when she emerged from a nightclub, looking disheveled, Raffles appears in a photograph on TMZ like a deer in headlights. He is standing right behind her in a powder blue suit. On Twitter, he wrote: “STOP reading the stupid blogs.. Whitney had a great time, she looked amazing. Nothing was wrong, it was just DAMN hot in that club.”

But who is Raffles van Exel? He’s one of Hollywood’s mysteries. I first met him in 2005 hanging around the Jackson family during Michael Jackson’s child molestation trial. After Michael went abroad, Raffles was often seen with Michael’s father, Joseph Jackson. He trades on being an “insider” when there’s a scandal. No one really knows him, but he’s always where there’s action and celebrities. On the internet he claims to own a number of companies including Raffles Entertainment. He’s also been sued a couple of times, once by a partner in something called Max Records, Inc., and once by a private aviation company in Los Angeles. I spoke to the plane company and they said they can’t comment because the situation is ongoing. On Twitter he claims to be managing “my girl,” Chaka Khan. There are plenty of pictures of Raffles on the internet with celebrities. You can see him with everyone from Magic Johnson to Sandra Bullock. If ever there was a real life Zelig, he is it.

It’s  not a surprise that Raffles has turned up in Whitney Houston’s story. Last October, he and Whitney and others traveled to North Carolina with Whitney’s sister in law Patricia Houston for something called a Teen Summit. It was billed as part of The Patricia Houston Foundation, an organization for which there is no official 501 c3  registration. Pat Houston, married to Whitney’s brother Gary, has been Whitney’s manager for years.  (Whitney’s own foundation for children ceased functioning years ago.) She also owns a consignment shop in North Carolina, and a candle company called Marion P. Candles, with Whitney.

Look for Raffles at Whitney’s funeral tomorrow. In the old days he used to wear a yellow jacket full of black question marks—like The Riddler. On Saturday night, as he pulled in various guests to Clive Davis’s party past the velvet ropes, he was wearing a Michael Jackson-like tuxedo. He lives in West Hollywood now, but his official domicile—and where he’s been sued—is Chicago. He has not responded to countless emails and phone messages.
- Source: Forbes



Was this man instrumental in Whitney’s sacrifice? Did Whitney fall out of the good graces of the music industry elite? Was she becoming difficult to manipulate? Was she sacrificed to introduce her successor? Difficult to say, but Whitney appeared to have premonitions about her death. Some reports described her as “manic” and agitated while others state that Whitney felt that “her days were numbered”. Shortly before her death, Whitney was spotted handing singer Brandy a message whose contents remained a mystery.


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What was in Whitney’s secret note to Brandy?
Singer Brandy has one of the last messages ever delivered by Whitney Houston — but she’s not telling anyone what it says.

On Feb. 9 in Los Angeles, Houston approached the younger singer as she and fellow singer Monica and mentor Clive Davis were conducting an interview with E!

A post on RyanSeacrest.com says Houston “crashed” the interview, then goes on to say “Whitney seemed a bit manic as she told Monica about swimming ‘two hours a day,’ and conspicuously handed a note to Brandy before hugging Davis.”

When E! later asked Brandy directly what the note said, she replied “I’m going to just not say what it was and just keep it to myself for my own personal reasons.” She also told the network “Whitney meant everything to me … She’s the reason that I sing.”
Brandy and Houston starred in the 1997 remake of Rodgers and Hammerstein’s “Cinderella.” Brandy also is the elder sister of singer Ray J, who had reportedly dated Houston on and off over the last two years of her life. Ray J gained notoriety in 2003 when a sex tape of him with Kim Kardashian was leaked to the public.

E! has video of Houston handing the note to Brandy, and Brandy’s comments about not revealing its contents.
- Source: MSNBC




The Number 11


When dealing with occult rituals, numerology takes on a primordial importance. In the case of Whitney Houston, the number 11 is definitely a factor. In elite occult circles, the number 11 is a “master number” (it cannot be reduced) and, because it exceeds the number 10 (the number of perfection) by 1, it is usually associated with bad foreboding and black magic. Qabbalists associate the number 11 with transgression of the law, rebellion, war, sin, sorcery and martyrdom.

For this reason, the occult elite often associates mega-rituals involving sacrifice with the number 11. What was the massive mega-ritual of the modern times? September 11th – involving the Twin Towers. At what exact time do we “remember” WWI soldiers who sacrificed their lives for their rulers? At the eleventh hour of the eleventh day of the eleventh month – Veterans Day, aka Remembrance Day.

Going further than the date of her death, another link associates Whitney and her death with Lady Gaga and previous Grammy awards. As some know, Lady Gaga had close ties with fashion designer Alexander McQueen, who was no stranger to occult and mind control symbolism in his work. McQueen died on February 11th, 2010.

During the 2011 Grammy Awards, Gaga stated about her song “Born This Way”:

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“I need to thank Whitney Houston. I wanted to thank Whitney, because when I wrote ‘Born this Way,’ I imagined she was singing it – because I wasn’t secure enough in myself to imagine I was a superstar. So, Whitney, I imagined you were singing ‘Born This Way’ when I wrote it.”



Born This Way” was released on February 11th, 2011. Exactly one year later, Whitney Houston dies on February 11th, 2012. Did Gaga (or her handlers) know something that the rest of us didn’t? Her outfit evidently shows that death was on her mind.


Artists usually have their award ceremony wardrobes selected well in advance. Apparently, death was on Gaga's (or her handler's) mind.
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Another little fact: Whitney’s room number was 434 – which in Qabbalistic numerology equals 11 (4+3+4).

Statements from Industry Veterans

Who is better placed than artists who have worked in the music industry for years to provide insightful takes on the death of Whitney Houston? They obviously do not hold the ultimate truth and they might just be trying to make sense of things like the rest of us, but they have first -and experience when it comes to the workings of the music industry.

During an interview on Good Morning America, industry giant Celine Dion bluntly blamed the “bad influence” of show business for Whitney’s death. She even stated that you “have to be afraid” of show business.

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“It’s just really unfortunate that drugs, bad people or bad influence took over. It took over her dreams.  It took over her love and motherhood. When you think about Elvis Presley and Marilyn Monroe and Michael Jackson and Amy Winehouse, to get into drugs like that, for whatever reason. Is it because of the stress and bad influence? What happens when you have everything? What happens when you have love, support, the family, motherhood? You have responsibilities of a mother and then something happens and it destroys everything. That’s why I don’t do parties and I don’t hang out. That’s why I’m not part of show business. We have to be afraid. I’ve always said you have to have fun and do music and you can never be part of show business because you don’t what it’s going to get yourself into. You have to do your work and get out of there.”
- Source: Vancouver Sun




Is Celine Dion’s avoidance of show business the reason she manages to be relatively scandal-free?

Another legendary diva, Chaka Khan, was even more direct when explaining the true cause of Whitney’s death. During an interview with Piers Morgan, she stated:

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“I think we all, as artists, because we’re highly sensitive people, and this machine around us, this so-called ‘music industry,’ is such a demonic thing. It’s sacrifices people’s lives and their essences at the drop of a dime … I had a manager once say to me, ‘ You know you’re worth more money dead than alive.’

I mean, I’ve cried for her, a lot over the years, so many times. In a way I’ve mourned her, because I felt something was gonna happen because she was so close to the wire.”
- Source: Eonline



Was Chaka Khan exaggerating when using the terms “demonic” and “sacrifice” when describing the music industry? Judging by the symbolism found at the Grammy awards, she was probably right on the dot.

The Mega-Ritual that Was the 2012 Grammy Awards

The Grammy Awards has been dubbed “music’s biggest night” and, since the music industry is ruled by an occult elite, “music’s biggest night” reflects this elite’s code. Because of Whitney Houston’s death, the 2012 edition of the Grammy Awards had a peculiar feel that was almost palpable through the television screen. Intentionally or not, Whitney’s death was tied-in with the awards ceremony and the symbolism that transpired from it.

The ceremony began in a very peculiar fashion, especially given the context of the Whitney’s death. Bruce Springsteen yelled to the crowd “Are you alive out there?“, then sang the song We Take Care of Our Own, a mantra that was repeated throughout the evening. Well, I know someone who was definitely not alive out there – the very person that was on everyone’s mind when the show began. And, in the last years of her life, she wasn’t particularly well taken care of, either. In fact, as I stated in the article,  What Happened to Whitney Houston, I believe that something terrible happened to Whitney Houston that went way beyond using drugs. She was mentally, psychologically and even spiritually disturbed. Was she under mind control or the subject of some kind of dark rituals? Difficult to say. But, as Springsteen chanted We Take Care of Our Own as if it was the anthem of the industry, I couldn’t help but think that Whitney was probably not “one of them”. Her “industry-approved” replacement, however, is “one of them”.


Out With the Old, In With the New?
Industry mogul Clive Davis with Whitney Houston and Jennifer Hudson.


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A day before Whitney’s death, Clive Davis told Piers Morgan that Jennifer Hudson was “the next Whitney”. While Whitney was being reduced to the state of has-been, constantly humiliated by tabloid stories, Hudson was being groomed to become the next industry diva. After being discovered on American Idol, Hudson’s career took off … right after the violent murders of her mother and brother in 2008. Her first public appearance after the traumatic event was singing the Star-Spangled Banner during Superbowl XLIII.

At the 2012 Grammy Awards, who do you think was chosen to pay tribute to the fallen artist by singing her greatest hit I Will Always Love You?

In her tribute to Houston, Hudson was literally placed "in the spotlight" while a picture of Houston floated above her.



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Another artist of Whitney’s calibre re-emerged triumphant, almost like a re-birth after a period of silence: Adele. However, the symbolic ceremony of the 2012 Grammy Awards could not be completed without a true ritual dealing with the spiritual realm. Nikki Minaj took care of that.

The Black Mass


Nicki Minaj enters the Grammys in a ritualistic red robe, color of sacrifice and initiation. Was it a reference to Whitney's blood sacrifice?



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The Grammy Awards ceremony may have begun with a heart-felt prayer for Whitney Houston, but it ended with an all-out Satanic Black Mass. From her “red carpet” entrance to her musical performance, Nikki Minaj played the role of a woman possessed by a demon named “Roman Zolanski”. The 2012 Grammy Awards were apparently chosen to “exorcise” this demon from Nikki and to present it to the world as her new alter-ego. In last year’s Grammy Awards, Lady Gaga also presented a new persona for Born This Way: a Gaga with horns on her forehead.

In a music industry permeated with the concept of mind control, alter-personas that are completely separate from the artists are now the norm. As discussed in the article Origins and Techniques of Monarch Mind Control, the goal of Monarch programming is to create new personalities within a mind-control victim using violent trauma and frightening rituals. The personas that are created are fully programmable by their handlers and can even speak with a different accent, as is the case with Minaj’s alter persona. The chorus of Minaj’s song Roman Holiday appears to refer to the process of mind control:

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Take your medication, Roman
Take a short vacation, Roman
You’ll be okay
You need to know your station, Roman
Some alterations on your clothes and your brain
Take a little break, little break
From your silencing
There is so much you can take, you can take
I know how bad you need a Roman holiday


Mind-control slaves are highly medicated and have their clothes (outward style) and brain “altered” by their handlers. This is accomplished by forcing the victim to dissociate from reality through intense trauma and pain: “There is so much you can take” before the mind dissociates from reality or goes on a “Roman Holiday”.

Minaj’s alter-persona is named Roman Zolanski. He has his own strange accent and is evidently the product of evil rituals. The name of this alter is inspired by movie director Roman Polanski, who produced Rosemary’s Baby, a movie about the birth of the Anti-Christ (see the article about it here). Polanski is even more famous for being charged with rape by use of drugs, perversion, sodomy, lewd and lascivious act upon a child under 14, and furnishing a controlled substance to a minor in 1977. Strange fellow to be inspired by. He is however an intricate piece in the history of the occult entertainment industry so this “tribute” to him by an industry pawn such as Minaj is not surprising.

Actual Monarch programming is accomplished using a strong undercurrent of Satanic imagery to disturb and traumatize the victim. In the case of Minaj’s performance, her alter ego was exorcised in a Satanic Black Mass – which is, in essence, a mockery and a desecration of a conventional Christian mass.

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Minaj begins her performance tied up in what appears to be Catholic church. The force that possesses her is apparently too strong to hold her down though, and as the church windows explode, she is unbound. Minaj then descends into a church gone wild, complete with strippers rubbing on young priests who are attempting to pray to God (was that really necessary?).

Then, as the choir make a mockery of the classic Christian hymn O Come All Ye Faithful, a pope figure enters and makes Minaj levitate.

This Christian mass turned into a fiery black magic ritual for the world to see.



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In short, Minaj’s performance presented the world her new alter-ego who will be rapping on her next album. Her performance made it clear that Roman Zolanski is nothing less than a demon that was created with Minaj and exorcised from her through a Black Mass ritual. If the performance alone was enough to trouble some viewers, when it is put in the context of Whitney Houston’s death that happened about 24 hours beforehand (a singer that was never shy about her Christian faith), the whole thing takes on an even more troubling dimension. Ancient magicians drew on the power of blood sacrifices to carry on Black Magic rituals. With Whitney’s death still fresh in everyone’s mind, the Black Mass that was proudly presented by the 2012 Grammy Awards had all the more potency on its worldwide viewers.

In Conclusion

This article presented a great number of facts and symbols that point towards the conclusion that Whitney Houston’s death may have been a blood sacrifice and that the 2012 Grammy Awards had occult ritualistic elements within it. Even if all of these events were not deliberately planned by industry handlers, they all contribute to a clear and disturbing picture of the music industry.

While Whitney Houston’s life was ending under bizarre circumstances and she was portrayed in the media as a hopeless drug addict, a new generation of Illuminati-approved artists were being placed in the spotlight. They willingly participated in the occult ritual that was the Grammy Awards and played their role in the tragic-comedy of the music industry, even if it meant losing their essence and their soul. What happens to those who don’t play along with the system or rebel against it? They disappear from the spotlight, and sometimes they disappear from this earth in less than dignified circumstances. Because, as the mantra of the 2012 Grammy Awards indicates: The elite take care of their own. And no one else.

http://vigilantcitizen.com/musicbusiness/whitney-houston-and-the-2012-grammy-awards-mega-ritual/





Regardless of what people believe it or not believe, it is clear that something is wrong with the music industry and the cinema.
There have been many discussions about what there is behind the scenes in the music industry, and why many celebrities end up with mental, drug, or simply dead problems.
The problem is not in the music that we listen to, if not in the level of consciousness that we have developed to listen to without that affect us. The game is, not leave everything and run, but purchase weapons to cope without fear.








Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 19, 2012, 04:05:34 PM
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no hatman no hoax

 :lol:
lmao  :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: katy (MJFAN7) on February 19, 2012, 04:42:26 PM
I'm sure michael has more disguises than hatman...
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: suspicious mind on February 19, 2012, 06:24:19 PM
i was struck at the memorial how many times it was mentioned about doing all you can do then stand. remembering murrays  statement i told the truth now all i can do is stand. ( however it was exactly that he said).
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Dontwalkaway on February 19, 2012, 08:56:45 PM
I don't think he would want to use hatman again because a lot of people know about it.  He would probably have to do something totally different.   I don't think he could use hatman,blond lady, or old man anymore.  And maybe not Mickey Mouse either !!! 


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Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 19, 2012, 09:05:27 PM
lmao  :lol: :lol: @Dontwalkaway
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: use_your_illusion on February 19, 2012, 09:10:50 PM
I find it strange that Aretha could perform at her concert the same day Whitney died but can't go to her funeral...I mean this is her only chance to say goodbye but she chooses a concert which she can always reschedule, people would understand...things that make you go hmmmmm
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: scorpionchik on February 19, 2012, 09:18:29 PM
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Michael's hoax is 99.99% certainty,  but Whitney no. RIP dear.

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Guys, you can't make out of everything hoax, it is a paranoia. Come on.

Don't forget that to many people out there your certainty is a paranoia.

Don't forget to respect other people's opinions even if you think differently.

We can't know for sure if they're alive OR not. We have doubts and clues. Some SEE them, some not. To some they MEAN something, to some they don't! That's it.
And I think one thing we should have learned in these 3 years is to accept the fact that people think differently!! and there's no need to label them or offend them just because we don't agree with them.

Come again.........   Who the hell you think you are to teach me what to learn?
 Since Michael' s hoax for many people out there is paranoia, then don't make it worse for guests who visit this site think that every member on this site is paranoid because of people like you in here. Heloooooo!!!!!!!
Don't cross your boundaries jumping on people! Clear?!
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 19, 2012, 09:23:29 PM
Another DEJA_VU
http://www.etonline.com/news/119071_Whitney_Houston_s_Death_Certificate_Details/index.html

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ET has obtained a copy of Whitney Houston's official death certificate, issued by the County of Los Angeles Department of Public Health. View the document HERE.

The manner of death listed for Whitney Elizabeth Houston is checked off as "pending investigation," and the immediate cause of death is listed as "deferred." The L.A. County Coroner's office is awaiting toxicology results in order to determine an official cause of death, which could take several weeks.

ET's Complete Whitney Houston Coverage

Under the "Usual Occupation" box on the certificate, Whitney is listed as "entertainer," with 33 years in the occupation.

Whitney's Eerie Interview About Michael Jackson

The star will be laid to rest this Saturday at the Fairview Cemetery in Westfield, NJ, which is the same location where her father is buried.

Stay tuned to ET for developing details on the Grammy winner's cause of death when made available.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: scorpionchik on February 19, 2012, 09:28:59 PM
Another sad story


Houston kid Bobbi Kristina disappeared after funeral, then found getting getting high in hotel room: report

devastated teenage daughter sparked a panic by disappearing for hours after her superstar mom's funeral yesterday, and family members were told she was found getting high in a hotel room, according to a report out today.

The Daily Beast cites two sources who claim Bobbi Kristina Brown, 18, was allegedly found using drugs in a hotel room hours after the star-studded funeral -- and family members want the child of two admitted drug abusers to go immediately into rehab.

The report says the family was told about the alleged drug use after they frantically searched for the daughter of Houston and Bobby Brown. Bobbi Kristina was hospitalized twice for emotional breakdowns after her mom's sudden death.

 “Everyone was freaking out and calling Bobbi Kristina’s cell,” said one source, a longtime family friend. “It was so much commotion and activity after the funeral that Bobbi Kristina just slipped away. Ms. Cissy [Houston, Whitney’s mother] was beside herself.”

A family spokesman denied Bobbi Kristina is using drugs, according to The Daily Beast, and chalked up the disappearance to stress surrounding her mother's untimely death last week.

"There was some confusion about Bobbi Kristina’s whereabouts last night for a short time, but she's OK,” a Houston family spokesperson told The Daily Beast. “She needed some time alone. She is going through a very hard time as you can expect.”

Bobbi Kristina entered rehab for drug use last year, a family associate told the news organization.

“It’s a horrible situation for everybody,” a close family friend told The Daily Beast. “They tried to save Whitney, and it didn’t work. Now with Bobbi Kristina, they fear the same thing is happening again and they won’t be able to stop it either. Bobbi Kristina is all Ms. Cissy has left of Whitney. She’s so tired, but she’s ready to fight again to save her grandbaby.”

Houston, 48, who had long battled drug and alcohol abuse, was found dead in her Los Angeles hotel room last Saturday. Her body was laid to rest at a private ceremony in New Jersey today.

The cause of death has not yet been determined.

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/houston_getting_report_kristina_9skdt65yQzE9RHuC7WxFGO?CMP=OTC-rss&FEEDNAME=


Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: scorpionchik on February 19, 2012, 09:30:04 PM
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Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 19, 2012, 10:34:46 PM
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[...]Who the hell you think you are to teach me what to learn?
I am a person who never insulted you or your opinions.



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Don't cross your boundaries jumping on people! Clear?! [/size]
I didn't jump on you. You did.
Don't call people paranoid just because you disagree with them! Clear?!
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 19, 2012, 10:38:43 PM
@scorpionchik: I would like to know if you consider only my opinions as paranoia, or also those of all the users that I quoted in the Weird List? because about 80% of what is in the List is everyone else's opinions/finds, not just mines. So if you think it's fine to call all people paranoid, just because they have a different perspective of things, then ... No Comment!!

Do you also consider Souza's post as paranoia? or is it just with me that you're having a problem?
If you're having a problem with me, then I 'll ask you to please write in private. Thank you


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I tuned in when Stevie Wonder was singing, so I haven't seen it all yet, will watch the rest later.

I am still not very sure that this is a hoax, and whether or not it is, it was a beautiful service anyway. I was like  WTF?? when I saw the casket, the trolley underneath it and the flowers on top: deja-vu! I was like  WTF?? when at the end, when TMZ switch to the video outside, but still had audio from inside, the choir started to sing "soon and very soon" before they switched to the audio outside. I was like WTF?? when I saw Dionne Warwick stay so incredibly strong when speaking, because I remember hearing they were so close. If Whitney really died, then respect for that, I could not do that. I was like WTF?? when I heard there was a private viewing first and a "repass" you had to be invited to after, until 6:30 pm. That was another deja-vu moment. I was like WTF?? when I heard her sister-in-law say "let the believers believe". I know she is probably referring to believers in God, but she repeated it, putting emphasis on the phrase. I was like WTF?? when I heard how they wanted to get the people out of the church. First after the casket, the first 3 rows of the family, then the first 7 rows on the other side. I was like WTF?? when Rev. Marvin Winans did such a passionate sermon about faith, and about the Kingdom of God (loved him BTW, he was fantastic).

I also think the sarcophagus was pretty weird. I have no idea if there is a story behind that. I also think it's a pretty weird coincidence that TMZ posted that article about Murray and DeBarge ONE day before her death, and then the article about Whitney and DeBarge. I also think it's interesting that Raffles van Exel is again in the picture, just like with MJ. The guy is an entertainment consultant and producer. He was on the phone on Dutch TV a few days ago. I can't remember what exactly he said, but I think he said something about Whitney being so happy the night before she died. I also think it's interesting how Whitney 'knew' she was going to die, just like MJ who told Paris what to do if he died. I also think it's interesting Whitney was working on a comeback, just like MJ. And just like MJ, there will be a movie coming out with Whitney very soon. I did not hear the part in the memorial where someone said "the best is yet to come" because I didn't see it all, but if that's true, than that is mighty interesting as well. Clive said he would keep Whitney to her promise of being ready in August. Sure, he referred to  Whitney in heaven, but did he really? It's also interesting that she died in a bathtub, just like Jim Morrison. We all know many believe Jim also hoaxed his death. I also think it's interesting that Whitney's memorial was 7 days after her death, I expected the funeral to be on Friday. The memorial program was also interesting, having the same wording as MJ's (celebrating the life of). I know that is not strange in itself, but it's just another parallel. Then we have the thing about the fighting about her final resting place, just as with MJ, even referring to him. Then when we are talking about a possible WH hoax and mention we want to see a hatman before believing it, TMZ posts an article about Whitney at the pool with a HAT. That picture was courtesy of TMZ, which means they most likely had it since that day (Wednesday before her death), yet they post it days after her death, AFTER we talked about a possible hoax and hatman. Sure, could all be coincidence and some of us are probably a little crazy, but that was a little weird, you gotta admit that. Then we have the COD deferred awaiting toxicology reports, just like with Michael. And I think TMZ is wording the articles strangely, just like they did (and still do) with Michael. They also seem to be sure about what they are reporting, as if they have the same informed 'sources' as with Michael. Chappie sent me a comment on TMZ that says:

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"Whitney Houston is NOT DEAD.. SHe is very much ALive.I hope now that she is OUT of the public eyes judgers .. she will get the help needed.. Please Whitney Houston get that help and get off drugs or you will die for real next time. Again Whitney Houston is NOT dead. I Swear to GOD almighty she is NOT DEAD.!!"

Like I said, I am really not sure if it's a hoax, but these things are all just too much of a deja-vu so it does make me wonder. I know some were emotional at the funeral, but you can't expect 1500 people to be in the know if it's really a hoax. The fact that it is in a church is not different from Staples for example. A church is just a building, any building can be a church if the people in the building are worshipping God, the building is not holy, so I am not bothered by that if this is a hoax. I remember that when I read Jermaine's book about MJ, he talked a lot about Whitney, more than about anyone else besides Michael. Also, IF this is a hoax, I am sure it was not planned years in advance like MJ's, which makes it less 'produced' and could therefore look more 'real'.

I am sure there are more things over the past week that I found odd or interesting, I will share if I come up with more. I really hope it's a hoax, but hoax or no hoax, this service was fantastic, at least what I've seen so far.

@Sim: that was 100% the album version of I Will Always Love You, not live or a new recording.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: gwynned on February 19, 2012, 11:18:55 PM
Who is this Raffles character and why did he dress like the Riddler?  Seriously?
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Mijac111 on February 19, 2012, 11:21:15 PM
@RK: Thank you so much for posting the pic of Whitney at the pre-grammy party. I understand the sig now - its in a Christ-like pose.
I agree that its v weird to be having a party downstairs with the body upstairs. Not in good taste at all.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Shamone Jackson on February 19, 2012, 11:58:18 PM
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Another sad story


Houston kid Bobbi Kristina disappeared after funeral, then found getting getting high in hotel room: report

devastated teenage daughter sparked a panic by disappearing for hours after her superstar mom's funeral yesterday, and family members were told she was found getting high in a hotel room, according to a report out today.

The Daily Beast cites two sources who claim Bobbi Kristina Brown, 18, was allegedly found using drugs in a hotel room hours after the star-studded funeral -- and family members want the child of two admitted drug abusers to go immediately into rehab.

The report says the family was told about the alleged drug use after they frantically searched for the daughter of Houston and Bobby Brown. Bobbi Kristina was hospitalized twice for emotional breakdowns after her mom's sudden death.

 “Everyone was freaking out and calling Bobbi Kristina’s cell,” said one source, a longtime family friend. “It was so much commotion and activity after the funeral that Bobbi Kristina just slipped away. Ms. Cissy [Houston, Whitney’s mother] was beside herself.”

A family spokesman denied Bobbi Kristina is using drugs, according to The Daily Beast, and chalked up the disappearance to stress surrounding her mother's untimely death last week.

"There was some confusion about Bobbi Kristina’s whereabouts last night for a short time, but she's OK,” a Houston family spokesperson told The Daily Beast. “She needed some time alone. She is going through a very hard time as you can expect.”

Bobbi Kristina entered rehab for drug use last year, a family associate told the news organization.

“It’s a horrible situation for everybody,” a close family friend told The Daily Beast. “They tried to save Whitney, and it didn’t work. Now with Bobbi Kristina, they fear the same thing is happening again and they won’t be able to stop it either. Bobbi Kristina is all Ms. Cissy has left of Whitney. She’s so tired, but she’s ready to fight again to save her grandbaby.”

Houston, 48, who had long battled drug and alcohol abuse, was found dead in her Los Angeles hotel room last Saturday. Her body was laid to rest at a private ceremony in New Jersey today.

The cause of death has not yet been determined.

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/houston_getting_report_kristina_9skdt65yQzE9RHuC7WxFGO?CMP=OTC-rss&FEEDNAME=

This may not be true.  We know how the media make up shit.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: scorpionchik on February 20, 2012, 12:35:10 AM
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@scorpionchik: I would like to know if you consider only my opinions as paranoia, or also those of all the users that I quoted in the Weird List? because about 80% of what is in the List is everyone else's opinions/finds, not just mines. So if you think it's fine to call all people paranoid, just because they have a different perspective of things, then ... No Comment!!

Do you also consider Souza's post as paranoia? or is it just with me that you're having a problem?
If you're having a problem with me, then I 'll ask you to please write in private. Thank you


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I tuned in when Stevie Wonder was singing, so I haven't seen it all yet, will watch the rest later.

I am still not very sure that this is a hoax, and whether or not it is, it was a beautiful service anyway. I was like  WTF?? when I saw the casket, the trolley underneath it and the flowers on top: deja-vu! I was like  WTF?? when at the end, when TMZ switch to the video outside, but still had audio from inside, the choir started to sing "soon and very soon" before they switched to the audio outside. I was like WTF?? when I saw Dionne Warwick stay so incredibly strong when speaking, because I remember hearing they were so close. If Whitney really died, then respect for that, I could not do that. I was like WTF?? when I heard there was a private viewing first and a "repass" you had to be invited to after, until 6:30 pm. That was another deja-vu moment. I was like WTF?? when I heard her sister-in-law say "let the believers believe". I know she is probably referring to believers in God, but she repeated it, putting emphasis on the phrase. I was like WTF?? when I heard how they wanted to get the people out of the church. First after the casket, the first 3 rows of the family, then the first 7 rows on the other side. I was like WTF?? when Rev. Marvin Winans did such a passionate sermon about faith, and about the Kingdom of God (loved him BTW, he was fantastic).

I also think the sarcophagus was pretty weird. I have no idea if there is a story behind that. I also think it's a pretty weird coincidence that TMZ posted that article about Murray and DeBarge ONE day before her death, and then the article about Whitney and DeBarge. I also think it's interesting that Raffles van Exel is again in the picture, just like with MJ. The guy is an entertainment consultant and producer. He was on the phone on Dutch TV a few days ago. I can't remember what exactly he said, but I think he said something about Whitney being so happy the night before she died. I also think it's interesting how Whitney 'knew' she was going to die, just like MJ who told Paris what to do if he died. I also think it's interesting Whitney was working on a comeback, just like MJ. And just like MJ, there will be a movie coming out with Whitney very soon. I did not hear the part in the memorial where someone said "the best is yet to come" because I didn't see it all, but if that's true, than that is mighty interesting as well. Clive said he would keep Whitney to her promise of being ready in August. Sure, he referred to  Whitney in heaven, but did he really? It's also interesting that she died in a bathtub, just like Jim Morrison. We all know many believe Jim also hoaxed his death. I also think it's interesting that Whitney's memorial was 7 days after her death, I expected the funeral to be on Friday. The memorial program was also interesting, having the same wording as MJ's (celebrating the life of). I know that is not strange in itself, but it's just another parallel. Then we have the thing about the fighting about her final resting place, just as with MJ, even referring to him. Then when we are talking about a possible WH hoax and mention we want to see a hatman before believing it, TMZ posts an article about Whitney at the pool with a HAT. That picture was courtesy of TMZ, which means they most likely had it since that day (Wednesday before her death), yet they post it days after her death, AFTER we talked about a possible hoax and hatman. Sure, could all be coincidence and some of us are probably a little crazy, but that was a little weird, you gotta admit that. Then we have the COD deferred awaiting toxicology reports, just like with Michael. And I think TMZ is wording the articles strangely, just like they did (and still do) with Michael. They also seem to be sure about what they are reporting, as if they have the same informed 'sources' as with Michael. Chappie sent me a comment on TMZ that says:

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"Whitney Houston is NOT DEAD.. SHe is very much ALive.I hope now that she is OUT of the public eyes judgers .. she will get the help needed.. Please Whitney Houston get that help and get off drugs or you will die for real next time. Again Whitney Houston is NOT dead. I Swear to GOD almighty she is NOT DEAD.!!"

Like I said, I am really not sure if it's a hoax, but these things are all just too much of a deja-vu so it does make me wonder. I know some were emotional at the funeral, but you can't expect 1500 people to be in the know if it's really a hoax. The fact that it is in a church is not different from Staples for example. A church is just a building, any building can be a church if the people in the building are worshipping God, the building is not holy, so I am not bothered by that if this is a hoax. I remember that when I read Jermaine's book about MJ, he talked a lot about Whitney, more than about anyone else besides Michael. Also, IF this is a hoax, I am sure it was not planned years in advance like MJ's, which makes it less 'produced' and could therefore look more 'real'.

I am sure there are more things over the past week that I found odd or interesting, I will share if I come up with more. I really hope it's a hoax, but hoax or no hoax, this service was fantastic, at least what I've seen so far.

@Sim: that was 100% the album version of I Will Always Love You, not live or a new recording.

I don't have problems with anyone, never have. I personally don't consider anyones opinion as paranoia. I AM SAYING WE LOOK LIKE PARANOID HERE in the eye of nonbelievers, visitors, IF we SEE HOAX IN EVERYTHING . We don't need that label onto us, especially if many of us also disagree with others including me.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Grace on February 20, 2012, 12:41:06 AM
Can we please leave this thread to Whitney?
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 20, 2012, 12:47:09 AM
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Can we please leave this thread to Whitney?
I've reached the same conclusion.
Maybe we should just let all this.... you know.... just "simmer"... and see what happens next ;)
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: use_your_illusion on February 20, 2012, 01:18:28 AM
The day after Whitney died they brought up the article of El Debarge which I thought was strange because of the article about his bro and Murray and we all know Murray is probably not in prison...so are these two articles linked to tell us something or is the articles seperate and not even related...just patiently waiting and like Purelove and others waiting for TS to say something or nothing, I'm gonna need some kinda sign (Cry MJ)..

@Souza it was on ET they had 3 things...Her dress and shoes outside and the Mummy coffin which is weir because they didn't really explain it...I think they said it was 3 of her fav things.

Oh and on ET Mark Steins was saying that the mother said something (after Whitney died) that someone kept ringing her doorbell and there was no one there but that Whitney visited her and she spent time with her, something like that (I think it was on the program, the letter the mother wrote).
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Ijustcantstoplovingu on February 20, 2012, 02:58:16 AM
Just watching TV interview on BBC news in the UK David Guest on Witneys funeral, he said that Witney loved Michael and thought that she should have married him, said that Michael introduced him to Witney back in the day and Witney and Michael  were very good friends. 


:shock:

Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: 2good2btrue on February 20, 2012, 03:57:15 AM
OK...don't jump on me yet....BUT I been chatting to Twiggy from MJHOAXlive, and she is really onto something...

Clive Davis could be a guilty person after this investigation into WH death is over.....

The family didn't want him there, and he was seen with Tommy Mottolla at the funeral.

I am hearing unconfirmed reports that there was some attempt to hurt Bobbi Houston the night before her mothers death........

Twiggy mentions that she was  at the Hilton on Saturday night and "saw alot of wierd and suspicious things going on" but is too afraid to talk about it yet" 

She is getting twitter messages from someone that is suggesting Clive Davis could be responsible for the killing of  Whitney Houston....to be continued.  Here is the blog and live chat....

http://www.mjhoaxlive.blogspot.com.au/
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: skyways on February 20, 2012, 05:44:23 AM
Thank u soo much 2good for saying that!!
Its may b very well the case- depends how autorities is corrypted.


I start to feel VERY uncomfortable wth Clive Davis figure since news posted recent  photo of Whitney and him  sitting on the chaire together as a mentor and his best creation.  And immediately after Whitney passing media start to promout his image as the best friend of the family who was ALWAYS there to guide them , especially now WH family leaning on him for support and he spends HOURS everyday on the phone wth them and even quoting Whitney who was call him her FATHER. 
That is drew parallel for me wth AEG director Randy Philipps in Michael case immediately.
If we taked article a Secret-Society Called Music Industry posted by @Paula-c early on this topic seriosly - and i believe we should - then CD is one of the major puppet-master behind the curtaine  of lables and contracts.
Sadly i have to admit , that even before i reading all our development info for Whitney case - that photo of him, publisht
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: skyways on February 20, 2012, 06:19:21 AM
That photo of CD posted by Daily News first thing in the morning of Whitney passing give me such chill - wibe of this man IS Deadly Dangerous!-///
sadly, after u old enough, u just  cant mistaken someone identity anymore - even at the photo on first glance(((.

I feel truly sorry for our dear Whitney and all others who talent belongs to music industry - that to be able to share her gift with the World she have to bound with such Voltures and that The ONLY Way of modern industry in US.

After all our discoveries on MJ hoax - i strongly believe that breaking that ill system is one of MAJOR reason behing Michaels hoax - to FREE THE VICTIMS of such mental slavery.
And dont forget that those bastards goes after very SOULS Of our Children and nothing less(((.

Music industry standing in the first row of that WAR against humanity and no less!

Blessings to all - I cherish my privilege to be wth you all on that journey and proud to standing as a Soldier of LOVE  for Michael.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: 2good2btrue on February 20, 2012, 06:54:01 AM
Whitney Houston was really pushing her luck.  She didn’t want to do The Bodyguard because she was fearful that it would obligate her to the Illuminati Hollywood Branch and according to Whitney Houston, she said that between her parents and the Hollywood Illuminati, she may one day end up dead. 
 
Whitney Houston has always spoke about the Hollywood Illuminati and displayed resentment towards her family.  Houston only lasted so long because Clive Davis was protecting her but you cant protect a demanding diva, who has an Illuminati expiration date....

It was Bobby Brown that wanted Whitney Houston to do The Bodyguard and convinced her to take the role because he said that it would make her larger than life and a legend but Houston didn’t want to be larger than life because she afraid of the Illuminati.

More information  here"

http://hollywoodilluminati.com/
 
Now it is not uncommon for a husband to push his wife to make a career leap being that Wil Smith pushed Jada Pinket Smith to do the Nutty Professor with Eddie Murphy because Wil Smith said that it would be a commercial block buster giving her cross over appeal.
 
So without Bobby Brown, there would be no Whitney Houston “The Actress” because at the time of The Bodyguard negotiations, Whitney’s parents were trying to destroy her with threats of courts and smear campaigns but the Hollywood Illuminati wanted her for this film.
 
Whitney Houston was not known to be a great actress and indeed she wasn’t any kind of film actress but yet she was starring in a film opposite Kevin Costner?  This was no accident but something that was being planned.
 
Before Houston signed onto The Bodyguard she also signed a contract saying that she would promote Lucifer via black dysfunction, drug use and glorify perverted sexual lifestyles.  This is the standard Illuminati Contract that all black musical artist sign, if they are to reach Super Star Status.  You can be famous in Hollywood but to reach International Super Star Status like Michael Jackson, Jay-Z, Kanye West or Whitney Houston, you will end up signing one of these contracts.

After Bobby Brown convinced Whitney Houston to join the Hollywood Illuminati and she got mega promotion with The Bodyguard and her sound track, the Illuminati rewards just flowed into their lives.
 
Next all of these film roles started to pour in.  Whitney Houston was experiencing a fame that very few entertainers will ever have the chance to know but it was still an orchestrated fame and not an organic fame.  It was an Illuminati fame.
 
Houston tried to back out of the contract and ended up putting a gospel song “Jesus Loves Me” on the flip side of “I Will Always Love You” when it came out as a single at the music stores (when we still had music stores).
 clearly didn’t know that one cant escape the Illuminati Contracts which they all sign in Hollywood, if you are to be an A-List anything.  She clearly didn’t know the story about John Lennon or why John Lennon is dead but Paul Mcartney, a man who has no talent, is still walking around and all over the place like he is from the cast of Glee.
 
■Deciding on who lives and who dies in Hollywood, is not a matter of chance or circumstance but it is a matter on who sticks to these hidden contracts and follows their orders.
 
In the music industry, everyone knows that you can not promote Christianity.  It simply isn’t done.  Lucifer is the lord in Hollywood and everyone knows it!  Kanye West, before he was nearly killed by the Illuminati, used to bitch about this reality constantly and now we see that Jay-Z, the biggest black rapper Illuminati Satanist of all, was asked to take Kanye West under his wing and to make him understand what his objective are or else. OR ELSE!  OR ELSE! OR ELSE!
 
■The Illuminati is a reality and to go against them or to not do as you are told means death aka Michael Jackson.
 
How does the Illuminati kill you?  Well they make sure that you have all of the drugs that you can have and they get you addicted to drugs (legal or illegal).  Just yesterday, when Obama was flying into Orange County, Ca (where Whitney Houston was living)-a drug plane got busted by Air Force One because it was flying in Obama’s air space.  Who controls these drug planes?  The CIA and Wall Street Illuminati Banking Families.
 
This drug plane had a shipment of drugs for the Hollywood Illuminati and while the media is saying that this plane only had marijuana on board, it actually had cocaine….LOTS OF COCAINE.
 
There was so much of cocaine on this plane that was grounded in Long Beach, Ca by Obama’s “people” that two Ice Agents in Long Beach, Ca started shooting at each other, in the Federal Building for screwing up the shipment.  The media will lie to you but I will tell you what really goes down with these people.

100 Million dollars of PCP seized in Culver City (South of Beverly Hills) http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2012/02/100-million-in-pcp-seized-in-los-angeles-.html
Federal Agents in Long Beach,Ca shoot out at Federal Buidling (after they screwed up the drug shipment) http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-long-beach-shooting-20120217,0,3324042.story
 
Where does this cocaine go?  It goes to LA Sheriff Lee Baca, Beverly Hills PD, Sony Music, Universal Music and Warner Bros Studio.
 
 Next, the moguls at these Hollywood Corps and law enforcement agencies distributes the drugs to what I call The Illuminati Slaves, which are people like Charlie Sheen & Jay-Z.
 
Once you are in the Illuminati you can have an endless supply of legal and illegal drugs and the Illuminati prefers this because once your expiration date is due, you can be killed and the public assumes that you are dead from drugs.
 
Bobby Brown was rewarded with an endless supply of drugs for helping to manage Whitney Houston and getting her into an Illuminati Contract.  Now after Houston wanted to back out, she ended up hooked on drugs and then they started tracking her, which led to public drug bust in Hawaii and at airports.
 
They even threatened to put members of her family in jail and threatened to throw her cousin (who she called her aunt), Dionne Warwick in a Brazilian jail where she would be gang raped by Brazilian Prison Guards, if Houston didn’t get back in the spot light and help drive the Illuminati agenda.
 
Everywhere she went, she was followed just like they did Michael Jackson and just as they started doing to Kanye West a few years back.  Fame and money has a price. You can not wiggle your way out of deals and pacts with the devil.  And Whitney Houston made a pact with the devil.  Even if she sung a song about Jesus, she was still sleeping with Satan…..and she knew it!
 
By the time Whitney Houston filmed The Preachers Wife, with Denzel Washington (another Illuminati slave)-she was already strung out on drugs.  Her voice is cracking in the film from smoking crack/cocaine and her complexion is bumpy & muddy.
 
There was the M.J. Special and tv interviews & even though she was in the heights of her money and drug use, she was still arrogant enough to put herself on tv because the Illuminati kept arranging the interviews because they needed her to be on record as a mess and drug user, so that when she died-it would be easily dismissed as a drug death.  This is what they do in Hollywood.
 
Like I said, everyone in Hollywood that is A-list or really famous, has an Illuminati file and I can look at this file and orchestrated a public and well documented decline or chain of events, which will lead to the untimely death of the celebrity, and it will be done in such a way to where it will not raise suspicion. 
 
■In fact, the reason why you have an Illuminati File is so that you can be black mailed or neatly killed when your time is up and to be honest, all of them deserved it.  Nothing in life is free.  You want 100 million dollars and crazy fame, then you need to uphold your end of the deal with Lucifer or else…OR ELSE….OR ELSE….OR ELSE.
 
If Lucifer doesn’t get you, when you flash those hand signs, and if those three demons dont come to you at night, every night and kill you over and over-then his merchants of chaos in Hollywood will find a way to get you and after you die, the show will go on. 
 
■Clive Davis will still throw a party and Hollywood will still dance only a few yards away from your death bed.  No one cares in Hollywood. Everyone is out for themself.  Chaka Khan will still go on CNN and pretend to be hurting, even as she spends the entire interview speaking about her self and how Chaka Khan couldnt eat and Chaka Khan couldnt sleep and Chaka Kahn couldnt do this and that after hearing about Houston’s death.  Toni Braxton will still walk the red carpet at the party and sing songs..because it is all about them.
 
Next she disappears and tries to hide herself in Ga. State but when the money started drying up, we saw a reality show, that actually showed a sober Bobby Brown but a strung out Houston.  When the reality show aired on Bravo, we saw a level headed Bobby Brown but an out of control Whitney Houston.
 
■Ever since Whitney Houston filmed The Preacher’s Wife with Denzel Washington, she was never sober for more than 7 days.  Years and years and years and years of an arrogant diva with money, that didn’t want to be told anything by anyone. 
 
■When the Oprah Interview rolled around after her divorce, she already had death upon her. 
 

■She was 48 but she looked 60 at the time of her death.  For a black woman to be 48 but look 60, you gotta be one messed up person and carrying the stress of death upon your shoulders.
 
Death was already lurking around Whitney Houston during that Oprah Interview. 
 
I know that people wanna run with the narrative that this is a case of a strong black woman, getting mixed up with the wrong man and now she divorced him and will be a strong black woman again but Whitney Houston was never a strong black woman and she was caught up in more mess than people realize.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: skyways on February 20, 2012, 07:00:52 AM
Now i have Q to us all - and any help wl b greatly appreciated.
Can we make any clear the very day of Whitney passing or we dont have much info ont hat yet?
According to Rogers( i aware he is gossip columnist but his ton at this time was sound genuanly shoking- may b because he was witness himself this time) - who was at the party on BH hotel - that paramedics was called by 11 am to WH suite to her daughter when she already spend hours wth her mother body in next room(??) and then hotel lobby was cleared of the ppl ((like in MJ case staff was fire hours before his *death*))  Exept for CD partiyng balroom YET  Witney was discovered  only by 3pm and then pronounced at the hospital shourtly after??
Is it i miss smthing by timing?
Which is means that BH party starts as early as the morning  - isnt unusual??

I feel like orhestration was very well done for Whitney to b "passed on time"  - they definately guilty of murder even if they USED Whitney own bad habbit for it(((.@

Now to quoted CD spech -     
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: skyways on February 20, 2012, 07:17:55 AM
Now to the quote of Clive Davis speach - " i wl see u in august " - isnt that kind of echoed Steve Wonder song on MJ memorial with line - u made a promise to see u back in august / or smthing along that line// - which is was very wierd when i hear him sing that.@
Why august??
But for WH nobody can verify that those words of her was truth((   but even if that was made up by Clive - why august anyway??

P.s.  Of course there MJ birthday - but exept  that....
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Grace on February 20, 2012, 07:37:18 AM
Sometimes I am glad I am not walking the shoes of another person. I would not have wanted to decide on the party. I cannot state anything concerning the consecutive decisions because I do not know anything about the circumstances. So I am just glad I did not walk those shoes that day.

I was astonished to see the pictures of Whitney and Clive Davis. What is very obvious is that Clive Davis is having some difficulties. Not because he's a rich man or because he's responsible or not for this or that in the world.

I chose this picture for a closer look which is just one out of many similar photographs:

(http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0eV84t3aREbiE/617x462.jpg?fit=scale&background=000000)

There is a split in between the left and the right half of his face.
This happens to many managers or people living in the public eye.
This happens for many potential reasons.

Chinese face readers say, the left half is speaking for your inner self and the right half is speaking for what you present to the world.
This is Clive Davis if cut in half and the halfs get duplicated.



Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: applehead250609 on February 20, 2012, 08:58:45 AM
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gwynned
Reply #586 on: Today at 01:18:55 PM »
Who is this Raffles character and why did he dress like the Riddler?  Seriously?

Since "the begining" of this hoax we discussed many times about this character:

Raffles van Exel interview Travis Payne
http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/smf2.0/index.php?topic=2466.msg36595#msg36595 (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/smf2.0/index.php?topic=2466.msg36595#msg36595)

Raffles Van Exel interviews Frank Dileo
http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/smf2.0/index.php?topic=1598.msg22340#msg22340 (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/smf2.0/index.php?topic=1598.msg22340#msg22340)

Raffels van Exel has a major announcement???
http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/smf2.0/index.php?topic=1802.msg29473#msg29473 (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/smf2.0/index.php?topic=1802.msg29473#msg29473)

Raffles van Exel and Michael jackson.... the connection?
http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/smf2.0/index.php?topic=3723.msg57408#msg57408 (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/smf2.0/index.php?topic=3723.msg57408#msg57408)


Here he is with Michael at one of his birthday and at 2005 trial:

(http://ww1.prweb.com/prfiles/2005/08/29/278359/UntitledMA117211820003.jpg)

(http://ww1.prweb.com/prfiles/2011/11/08/8956984/rafflesmichaeljackson.jpg)

(http://ww1.prweb.com/prfiles/2011/11/08/8956984/rafflesandmichaeljackson12.jpg)


Michael Jackson's Friend Raffles van Exel Calls for NBC To Cancel Dr. Conrad Murray Documentary
http://www.prweb.com/releases/2011/11/prweb8956984.htm (http://www.prweb.com/releases/2011/11/prweb8956984.htm)

Message From Jesse Jackson & Raffles van Excel to MJ Fans
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czJVJHXPDPI&feature=related[/youtube]
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Grace on February 20, 2012, 09:35:53 AM
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Message From Jesse Jackson & Raffles van Excel to MJ Fans
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czJVJHXPDPI&feature=related[/youtube]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czJVJHXPDPI&feature=player_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czJVJHXPDPI&feature=player_embedded)

What is he talking about?

In 7 hours 7 fans have committed suicide  :?: :?: :?:

So this "drive-in" interview in front of a "repack area" at an airport is the reliable source of those web rumors about fan suicides?

 :shock:

Seriously. In the end we read about 12 not 7.

And we are called "conspirationalists".
Look what they do.

I think I'm gonna go yell in my forest.





Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Aidan_81 on February 20, 2012, 11:32:25 AM
Grace, I feel the same about this..err... interview.
What?! Ugh.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 20, 2012, 11:44:18 AM
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[...] She didn’t want to do The Bodyguard because she was fearful that it would obligate her to the Illuminati Hollywood Branch and according to Whitney Houston, she said that between her parents and the Hollywood Illuminati, she may one day end up dead. 
Whitney Houston has always spoke about the Hollywood Illuminati and displayed resentment towards her family.  Houston only lasted so long because Clive Davis was protecting her but you cant protect a demanding diva, who has an Illuminati expiration date....
It was Bobby Brown that wanted Whitney Houston to do The Bodyguard and convinced her to take the role because he said that it would make her larger than life and a legend but Houston didn’t want to be larger than life because she afraid of the Illuminati.
More information  here"
http://hollywoodilluminati.com/
[ . . . ]
^^ Excellent information!! WOW!! thank you @2good2btrue for sharing this!
This totally solidifies my belief that Whitney was in "the KNOW" !! IF THIS IS TRUE  ^^ if she was so very much aware of the Illuminati and the dark side of the Hollywood, then this together with her strong ties with Elvis & Michael just comes as a "BONUS" in the escape-theory!! This would totally motivate her choice to join Michael's side in this war against evil in the industry!!! I really hope this ^^ isn't just a lie.


Just one more "element" they ALL share in common
- The Greatest Demonstration for Freedom! ;) ~ The Greatest Show on Earth!


(http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/3608/003ldn.jpg)

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9saX9cF248&lc=wJuMrjcUZK7nHg7LDvVrmbNHqHE-gWqaILvnVwi0teU&context=G23762e6FAAAAAAAAAAA&feature=g-all-c[/youtube]
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 20, 2012, 12:30:15 PM
Quote from: gwynned
Who is this Raffles character and why did he dress like the Riddler?  Seriously?
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[...]Message From Jesse Jackson & Raffles van Excel to MJ Fans
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czJVJHXPDPI&feature=related[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpsVmdhaUbE[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5z2t2hZ03Kc[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEI5JfqeBoY[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YvO2rgy31I&feature=related[/youtube]

(http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Amour/coeur-neon-lumineux.gif)(http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Amour/coeur-neon-lumineux.gif)(http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Amour/coeur-neon-lumineux.gif)

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E32NfG5HeVU[/youtube]
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: msgitm on February 20, 2012, 02:13:37 PM
Not sure who this Raffles dude is but I'd like to know why he shows up at all these "deaths"?  Also, Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton - they both come out of the woodwork when a black entertainer dies but where are they in life? I don't recall them hanging with Whitney during her troubled times, so why invite them to the funeral and have them seated like they are royalty? 
BTW - the circa 1950 nurse is still eating at me.  Did no one else find this odd?
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: msgitm on February 20, 2012, 02:16:08 PM
Also - I heard in the end they couldn't find ONE person who committed suicide after Michael's "death".  It was all fabricated by the media.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 20, 2012, 03:17:54 PM
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[...]BTW - the circa 1950 nurse is still eating at me.  Did no one else find this odd?
:lol: :lol: Yes I do find that odd!! I think I forgot to add her in the Weird List... anyway I will do an update soon...
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 20, 2012, 03:31:46 PM
New video  by MsFlyingFairy

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLOvXrhDOt8[/youtube]
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: ilovemjforever on February 20, 2012, 03:48:48 PM
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OK...don't jump on me yet....BUT I been chatting to Twiggy from MJHOAXlive, and she is really onto something...

Clive Davis could be a guilty person after this investigation into WH death is over.....

The family didn't want him there, and he was seen with Tommy Mottolla at the funeral.

I am hearing unconfirmed reports that there was some attempt to hurt Bobbi Houston the night before her mothers death........

Twiggy mentions that she was  at the Hilton on Saturday night and "saw alot of wierd and suspicious things going on" but is too afraid to talk about it yet" 

She is getting twitter messages from someone that is suggesting Clive Davis could be responsible for the killing of  Whitney Houston....to be continued.  Here is the blog and live chat....

http://www.mjhoaxlive.blogspot.com.au/
This is what i been thinking since day 1,that guy looks pure evil,he had everything to do with Whits death,if she is really dead.Someone has got to put an end,to the evilness that goes on in Hollywood.They have a nerve to call it the city of angels.Bullshit.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: 2good2btrue on February 20, 2012, 04:50:47 PM
I really found Jesse Jacksons behaviour really odd at the funeral...He  looked really uncomfortable like he had something shoved up his ass... geek/.he kept moving around in his chair and always had his fist on his chin......covering his mouth.........maybe a toothache  errrr errrr errrr  What's up with that??  He looked really nervous about something........did anyone else notice that ???

He acted as if he was a security guard, keeping an eye on something. Odd.  God bless
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 20, 2012, 05:38:38 PM
Interesting to watch and listen all possible theories. ;)

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpzszvzAILo&feature=youtu.be[/youtube]


2good2btrue: you're right, Jesse Jackson looked like everything but serene ;)
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: MissG on February 20, 2012, 05:43:46 PM
Wow...another sacrifice by no others than the Illuminati with tomati...

May be they can pass by my country and sacrifice some politicians...
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 20, 2012, 06:21:58 PM
@MissG : lmao  :lol: :lol: You sure did speak for me too!! ohh my country really needs some "cleaning" in that area too!! But we all know that our politicians are just Illuminati puppets! So we can't hope that they would throw away their own puppets!


The first 2 minutes of this video are REALLY interesting!
It seems that Whitney passed a "secret note" to Brandy, at the end of  TV show, where Clive Davis was also present. Their reactions are bizarre: brandy seems really surprised and like she doesn't know what to do with that and Davis is intrigued and curious and when asked, Brandy doesn't want to say what's in that note.
Just watch this:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJh35hUUHx4&feature=channel[/youtube]



I've watched several videos these days exposing Whitney's satanic sacrifice. I've also read articles, blogs exposing the same thing and of course Madonna's show.
I cannot but agree with everything said in those very well done materials ^^
Everything fits: numerology, synchronicity events, etc...all fits into what looks like an elaborate Illuminati plan to sacrifice someone.

But what still puzzles me and leaves me with doubts and question marks, is this:
- since everything is so blatant and in everybody's faces, weren't the Illuminati preoccupied to expose themselves that much?
- I mean if they did it, for whatever crazy, stupid and morbid reason of theirs, are they like so careless and worryless that people may notice all these incredibly VISIBLE signs?
- Are they intentionally that careless? What is the meaning of all this? From what I know about "secret societies" is that they are mainly based on SECRETS! they are afraid of everything that is out in the open!
- Did the Illuminati change their "modus operandi"? They are not so secretive anymore? Do they have a purpose for leaving behind so many revealing traces and clues that indicate this is all a satanic ritual/sacrifice? Do they want to scare people? That is their message?

OR
- Is it possible that someone just copies their "modus operandi"  and exaggerates everything. just like  a caricature, with the purpose of exposing them? and ridicule them?
- Are all these artists engaged in some sort of a massive exposing operation of Illuminati?
- Have you noticed that ever since Michael "died" in 2009, these televised "satanic" shows not only have multiplied , but they have become more and more blatant and explicit??
 - I mean Nicky Minaj 's show was more than symbolic! It was waaaay EXPLICITT!!



This is how I see things ^^ I am very puzzled and there are many unanswered questions in my head  right now!! As i said from the very beginning, on this thread, I am in a continuous  WTF?? state of mind!!
I still believe that Whitney is on Michael's plan, but I never excluded for one second that she could have been murdered. YET I can't understand why in such an OBVIOUS way! iit's really much too obvious for how the Illuminati work.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 20, 2012, 06:45:55 PM
If you remember, Wishingstar had found few days ago, an article on Wikipedia, discussing "Hold My hand" and how Kelly said he had composed it having Whitney in his mind.


This article was posted by Pearl Jr on twister:
http://www.mjjunderground.com/2012/02/20/hold-my-hand-originally-intended-for-whitney-houston/

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‘Hold My Hand’ Originally Intended For Whitney Houston

(Forbes) - Weeks before Whitney Houston’s death, Grammy-nominated songwriter Claude Kelly stopped by the Forbes headquarters in New York and shared his thoughts on mashups, Miley Cyrus, Notorious B.I.G. and the business of songwriting.

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In the interview, he told a fascinating story about how a song he’d written called “Hold My Hand” ended up being one of Michael Jackson’s last recordings. Kelly had penned the tune with Akon, originally creating it with Whitney Houston in mind. In the end, Akon liked the song so much that he decided to record it himself rather than giving it to Houston.

In 2008, Akon found himself in the studio with Michael Jackson–and decided to offer the song to The King of Pop as a duet. The two recorded the song together; a version would appear on Jackson’s posthumous album, Michael. Though the final product was a bit different than Kelly’s original tune, he was pleased with the end result.

“He’s my all-time favorite artist,” says Kelly of Jackson. “['Hold My Hand'] didn’t go No. 1, it didn’t match ‘Thriller,’ or anything else he’s done. But for me I can say I was one of the last people to have a song recorded by Michael Jackson. That’s good enough.”


CRY ;)
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Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Adi on February 20, 2012, 07:02:57 PM
The more I sit back and read and watch events surrounding the death of Whitney Houston the more I go  WTF??

Something is going on...whether it be that WH is still alive and her "death" was a part of MJ's hoax plan or whether she was murdered I don't know...but something weird is going on. I seriously hope it is the 1st. Why didn't Aretha Franklin attend her god daughters funeral? Weren't they meant to be very close? It kind of reminded me when Elizabeth Taylor didn't attend Michael's Memorial.

IDK...something is not sitting right with me on Whitney's death. I really hope she wasn't murdered.

Some of those articles by TMZ have the strangest wording and now there is this one where it mentions the "chosen one"

http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/20/whitney-houston-funeral-family-sells-footage/#.T0LqH4dOCAg


WHITNEY HOUSTON
Family Sells Funeral Footage
To "Benefit Bobbi Kristina
"

Whitney Houston's "home going" ceremony has turned into a money maker for her Estate -- which very quietly struck a deal to sell the video of the funeral.

Here's how it went down ... Associated Press provided a live pool feed of the funeral to media outlets around the world (including TMZ) on Saturday -- but everyone had to pull the footage 24 hours later. Why?

A rep for the family confirms the family has now "agreed to license footage to several media outlets." The rep says the family is charging "customary fees" to ... "help maximize the estate for the benefit of Bobbi Kristina."

For the record ... TMZ is not one of the chosen ones.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: use_your_illusion on February 20, 2012, 07:24:04 PM
@Sky August is pretty much when the London Olympics is...and we know how London Olympics is linked....plus if MJ comes back I really believe it will be there...I mean at the TII press conference he said 'See you in July'...and Stevie and Clive say August, so London is looking pretty suspect to me....everyone is watching, MJ said we have 4 yrs if you count 2009 and the Olympics starting July and goes through August...Now I say maybe he will make his presence known at the Opening Ceremony, because it is the most watched event in the Olympics.

Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: paula-c on February 20, 2012, 08:09:31 PM
Although i think that Whitney died, this is to include in the strange things of the funeral, although already TMZ public.
 In the link there are more photos.

http://photos.nj.com/star-ledger/2012/02/preparations_for_whitney_houst_3.html

(http://media.nj.com/star-ledger/photo/2012/02/-630ffff46f850011.jpg)
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: skyways on February 20, 2012, 08:15:59 PM
Thank you so much @Illusion for reminding about the Game in August - indeed fit into conception.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: gwynned on February 20, 2012, 08:26:40 PM
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OR
- Is it possible that someone just copies their "modus operandi"  and exaggerates everything. just like  a caricature, with the purpose of exposing them? and ridicule them?
- Are all these artists engaged in some sort of a massive exposing operation of Illuminati?
- Have you noticed that ever since Michael "died" in 2009, these televised "satanic" shows not only have multiplied , but they have become more and more blatant and explicit??
 - I mean Nicky Minaj 's show was more than symbolic! It was waaaay EXPLICITT!!



This is how I see things ^^ I am very puzzled and there are many unanswered questions in my head  right now!! As i said from the very beginning, on this thread, I am in a continuous  WTF?? state of mind!!
I still believe that Whitney is on Michael's plan, but I never excluded for one second that she could have been murdered. YET I can't understand why in such an OBVIOUS way! iit's really much too obvious for how the Illuminati work.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU!!!!!   Who else has the sense of theater?  Nikki hangin on to the Pope dressed as the Harlot of Babylon???  And what about GaGa's blood and gore last year singing Papparazia?  Was Madonna's pathetic performance a form of punishment as well as another ritualistic exposure. 

As you said, if it's so secret, why make it so obvious.....UNLESS you are working to expose them.  :)
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Adi on February 20, 2012, 08:28:33 PM
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Although i think that Whitney died, this is to include in the strange things of the funeral, although already TMZ public.
 In the link there are more photos.

http://photos.nj.com/star-ledger/2012/02/preparations_for_whitney_houst_3.html

(http://media.nj.com/star-ledger/photo/2012/02/-630ffff46f850011.jpg)

Thanks for the link Paula.

That is another  WTF?? right there with that Egyptian statue...what is the need or the purpose of that? Surely it isn't  standard practice for that particular funeral home.

Just an observation, that is an interesting number on the Police car:  801   8/01 = 8th January = Elvis's b'day   :lol:
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Andrea on February 20, 2012, 08:30:24 PM
I think it more likely that Whitney was killed (sacrificed) than another hoax.  Either way, it was not an accident and it was very deliberate.  There's too many weird things that don't make sense and a lot of things that parallel MJ's hoax. 

Allow me this paranoid thought for a moment.  It occurred to me yesterday that whatever is going on in the world, it's a battle between good and evil.  The evil may very well know that Michael is alive and so this evil is using, or manipulating, the hoax against him.  Like Whitney's death for example.  Maybe all the parallels and coincidences are deliberate to either: 1 - make it look like a hoax/or sacrifice; or 2 - send a message to Michael.  A message that basically says, we've got another one and we've made it look like it's connected to you (MJ) and it's beyond your control.  Scary thought and I hope that's not the case.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: use_your_illusion on February 20, 2012, 08:39:37 PM
@Adi the Egyptian statue was for Whitney, I think I said it a few posts ago...ET said it was one of Whitney's fav things which also included her shoes and dress, so I'd say that's even more startling, I mean where did they get if from, couldn't they have picked something else or does this mean something?....

@gwynned But wouldn't  the Illuminati dislike the exposing of them or do they not care anymore because they are about to take over (talking about a one world government, NWO)

Wow Andrea I would have to agree it makes PERFECT PERFECT sense...especially the video Sim linked to, about all the 11's, the Bev Hills Hotel shape, The pope news (which couldnt be a coincidence or MJ's doing), Clive leaving her body there for 11 hrs so they could do the pre grammy party (how disrespectful)...but how about the Egyptian statue or the note she gave to Brandy which couldnt have been a note about anything else right, only what was yet to come but couldnt she escape..?...But wow I really have to agree.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Dontwalkaway on February 20, 2012, 08:47:39 PM
As I read and watch this, I am feeling really sick to my stomache.  If this was an illuminati sacrifice then it will be the LAST. I am more than ready to turn this pyramid upside down !!!!!!! 

I'll be there !
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Adi on February 20, 2012, 08:50:54 PM
@ Andrea - that IS a VERY scary thought......I can see where you are coming from with that one.

I hope it's not the case either.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: use_your_illusion on February 20, 2012, 08:51:56 PM
@Dontwalkaway, wow love your post, your words are so POWERFUL....I'm + 1 on your comment.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: beLIEving101 on February 20, 2012, 09:24:13 PM
With all the info that has come in so far, an ‘accidental’ death does seem the least plausible. The ritual sacrifice is one possibility. Have to agree, Nicki Minaj’s ritual performance was meant to send a message, more ties are coming into the ritual belief. Its tough to say early on, we may have to wait and see the final cause of death, how this story is told to us. If it’s the Illuminati covering up a murder, they may present the story much different than if MJ was orchestrating this. If MJ is a part of this, perhaps the focus of death will pinpoint the Xanax (the prescription meds), MJ will go after Big Pharma. If the elite were covering this up, they may have went with the drowning story, or something not exposing prescription meds once again. Not sure but we know the crime scene was likely staged, so who is more likely to stage it? Something tells me if Whitney’s life was in danger, she would be aware and likely escape before its too late, hopefully Im right. The more I see the facts, I actually think its more likely she’s alive. Beverly Hills Hilton, Im sure it’s a place MJ has ties with, MJ’s friend Raffles was with her all week, some of the smaller tidbits are pointing me away from the ritual, lets hope it’s the case.

Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: skyways on February 20, 2012, 09:30:24 PM
Agree, Andrea- and its not as much scary thoughts as much is true((.
HOW MANY HAVE TO LOST LIFE FOR GOD SAKE BEFORE WORLD IS TURN AROUND FOR BETTER??!!
We CANT change life for Bobbi Kristina even if we would pour out ALL OUR LOVE for her - her horrific expierence wl NOT going away as well as as for MANY & MANY others souls PREDESTINED on that battle to be buried away///.
This is unfortunate TRUTH and cheerful messages  LETS BOUND OUR LOVE TOGETHER AND WE CAN HEAL THE PLANET ---  N-O-T Working anymore(((... 
HOW we can make a CHANGE on GRANDER scale ?  IF We EVER be able to make it??...
All i know - is only my PRIVATE way of change it through sharing beauty and enlightement but even those ways very often get overshadow by  stupid surviving!..
What about Bigger way to MAKE THAT CHANGE?? - Even simple creativity is a luxury now in everyday demannds.///
To CHANGE the World now its means to SHIFT THE SYSTEM and patterns of NATIONS MENTALITY.
Did WE HAVE THE ANSWER  H-O-W  TO D-O  IT??
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: skyways on February 20, 2012, 09:40:47 PM
My demand for that answer is NOT just rhitorical figure - "they" and the rules of nowadays world is CLAIMING SOULS OF OUR CHILDREN!! And be helpless on such demand its just IMPOSSIBLY.(

BLESSINGS to YOU my dear FAMILY - and i greatly hope that GOD wl guide us the answer....
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Dontwalkaway on February 20, 2012, 09:50:23 PM
Skyways,

I don't know the answer about how to do it but here are some ideas that might help the situation:

1.  Spread knowledge and information
2.  Do it nonviolently
3.  We have to unite-somehow
4.  Spread Love and not create fear
5.  Somehow have control over media, information
6.  Have control of transportation,food,money,banks,hospitals,medicine

Take control back of all our resources.  It's in the wrong hands. 
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: ilovemjforever on February 20, 2012, 09:57:11 PM
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I think it more likely that Whitney was killed (sacrificed) than another hoax.  Either way, it was not an accident and it was very deliberate.  There's too many weird things that don't make sense and a lot of things that parallel MJ's hoax. 

Allow me this paranoid thought for a moment.  It occurred to me yesterday that whatever is going on in the world, it's a battle between good and evil.  The evil may very well know that Michael is alive and so this evil is using, or manipulating, the hoax against him.  Like Whitney's death for example.  Maybe all the parallels and coincidences are deliberate to either: 1 - make it look like a hoax/or sacrifice; or 2 - send a message to Michael.  A message that basically says, we've got another one and we've made it look like it's connected to you (MJ) and it's beyond your control.  Scary thought and I hope that's not the case.
Great post,i couldn't agree more.I felt from the beginning,no way was this an accidental death.Another odd thing to me,is Whitney died on Brandy's 33rd Bday.Coincidence?Why did she slip Brandy a note?What did the note say?Why did the same thing happen to Bobbie Christina a couple of nights before,but she was saved.I do know someone was orchestrating these chain of events.Who.C.Davis or M.J.There is definitely a battle going on,that's for sure.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: RK on February 20, 2012, 10:15:05 PM
quote from ilovemjforever
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Why did the same thing happen to Bobbie Christina a couple of nights before,but she was saved

I have had this part of the scenario playing out in my head for days also. This is only my thoughts, but what if 'they' intimidated Whitney with the threat of what they would do to her daughter. And Whitney chose what most mothers would...they would suffer anything to save their baby. If this is the case, then this sacrifice would hold all the more worth to those evil bastards, because it was wrapped in the purity of a mother's heart for the survival and safety of her child.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: ilovemjforever on February 20, 2012, 10:45:18 PM
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Why did the same thing happen to Bobbie Christina a couple of nights before,but she was saved

I have had this part of the scenario playing out in my head for days also. This is only my thoughts, but what if 'they' intimidated Whitney with the threat of what they would do to her daughter. And Whitney chose what most mothers would...they would suffer anything to save their baby. If this is the case, then this sacrifice would hold all the more worth to those evil bastards, because it was wrapped in the purity of a mother's heart for the survival and safety of her child.
You know,that makes perfect sense.I never thought about it that way.I hope that's not what happened,but it would not surprise me one bit.That is one scary thought.Actually i think the incident with Bobbi happened the night before,but either way i am really afraid for her.That little girl must be going thru a lot right now.Bless her heart.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: skyways on February 20, 2012, 10:50:38 PM
Dear Dontwalkaway - THANK U SO MUCH to sharing my concern!
Of course spreading fear its NOT the point - and ur suggestion of 3 and 4 seems the most accesibly.
Sorry my rant above - but sometime that pains itjust too much to keep inside and u need just scream that LOUD if nothing else u could DO!
 Back to topic of my plea - I believe that we on the peack of the time when hoaxforum demands to have some more ACTION towards PEACE and UNITY - than be just open container  of MJ conspiracy investigation and daily basis of our blessings to exercise intellectual muscles@@ - even its my delight to share our knowledge.
Some may say that WE have to ask permission of Jackson Family  -  BUT isnt right way to show OUR INTEGRITY its to come wth some sort of Resolution of our possibly moves and actions as a COMMUNITY and figure way to engage General Public  WITH THAT POSITIVE ACTIONS?
I dont know yet what possibly its may be- building orphanges or spreading words of TRUTH-but having such EXEPTIOAL comaradieres here-WE CAN DO!
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Dontwalkaway on February 20, 2012, 11:04:16 PM
Skyways,

Don't feel hopeless.  I was feeling like that too but then I thought about it.  I went on a Youtube channel called Opentolife.  He/she has inspirational and spiritual messages tied to the death hoax.

There was a new video on.  He/she asked the questions "Why are we here ?" and "Why does it have to be so hard ?" and these were the answers given. 

We are here to change the world.  It has to be so hard because we are physical, and have duality so to know joy we have to know sorrow.  He/she also said "You are not alone".  People were sent here to change the world.

So, these messages were in Michaels songs also.  I think we just had to be reminded.  It's all in God's plan.  We just have to search for the truth.  We're going to make it.

I'll try to post the link to this channel.  You can also go on Youtube and type in Opentolife

http://www.youtube.com/user/opentolife?ob=0

 bearhug     
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: msgitm on February 20, 2012, 11:11:11 PM
At the start of Whitney's funeral the Bishop asked that NO cameras/videos be used and ALL cell phones turned off.  So why did Entertainment tonight just spend the entire half hour showing pictures of inside the service and reception?  Up close photos of Whitney's mom, daughter and friends all grieving is unacceptable & beyond disrespectful!  And who took pictures of her grave after she was buried?
Also, why are Gayle King and others giving play by play details of what went on inside the funeral?  What the heck is wrong with these people?
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: ilovemjforever on February 20, 2012, 11:16:55 PM
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At the start of Whitney's funeral the Bishop asked that NO cameras/videos be used and ALL cell phones turned off.  So why did Entertainment tonight just spend the entire half hour showing pictures of inside the service and reception?  Up close photos of Whitney's mom, daughter and friends all grieving is unacceptable & beyond disrespectful!  And who took pictures of her grave after she was buried?
Also, why are Gayle King and others giving play by play details of what went on inside the funeral?  What the heck is wrong with these people?
They are all Illuminati puppets,plain and simple,and they make me sick.They will do anything for the payola.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Grace on February 21, 2012, 12:17:48 AM
On TMZ, Whitney is still alive:

Whitney Houston | Celebrity Directory (http://www.tmz.com/celebrity-directory/?adid=celeb-pg-after-add-links) 

Whitney Elizabeth Houston (born August 9, 1963) is an American R&B/pop singer, actress, and former fashion model. Houston is the most awarded female artist of all time, according to Guinness World Records, and her list of awards include 2 Emmy Awards, 6 Grammy Awards, 16 Billboard Music Awards, 22 American Music Awards, among a total of 415 career awards as of 2010. Houston is also one of the world's best-selling music artists, having sold over 170 million albums and singles worldwide. Inspired by several prominent soul singers in her extended family, including mother Cissy Houston and cousins Dionne Warwick and Dee Dee Warwick, as well as her godmother, Aretha Franklin, Houston began singing with New Jersey church's junior gospel choir at age 11. After she began performing alongside her mother in night clubs in the New York City area, she was discovered by Arista Records label head…

Also Known As: Whitney Elizabeth Houston
http://www.tmz.com/person/whitney-houston/ (http://www.tmz.com/person/whitney-houston/)
 
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: use_your_illusion on February 21, 2012, 12:20:37 AM
But why kill her now, she wasn't a threat, or was it because they didn't need her anymore?
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: skyways on February 21, 2012, 12:43:49 AM
Oh thank u for the link Dontwalkaway!
But Im NOT hopeless and never be - I just ANGRY beyond my words and truly feel That is THE TIME  for real ACTION and not just bless or weept.
Through the MJ hoaxland experience I believe we matured enough to make next step toward our UNITED ACTIONS as a COMMUNITY and have our chance to truly CHANGE THE WORLD  because IT IS No way out and FUTURE OF OUR CHILDRENS GENERATION is literally DEPENDS ON US AND OUR STEP TO THE FRONTIER OF THAT BATTLE!
So - NO HOPELESS but LOOKING FORWARD for our transformation as ARMY of L.O.V.E.   and tragic, so painful loss of WH just reveal NECESSITY of that next step - just like Michael said " I CANT DO IT BY MY SELF!"

Thank U again for your replay on my plea and i cant wait 2 see others suggestion for our joint forces and journey! @@

bearhug  !!
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: 2good2btrue on February 21, 2012, 12:58:46 AM
Yes...her time had come....they had destroyed her through drugs and brain washing......Then dejavu   The artist needs to rebuild their image first with the promise of a comeback...bigger and better than before....

But that is just to generate attention for that celebrity, and then they kill you with an accidental overdose....because you are worth more dead than alive.......Did you even wonder why MJ's leeches kept coming back????   They wanted to be in his life when that time came, so they could benefit monetarily by sueing the estate for unpaid wages etc.....

Its just such an obvious pattern......worth more dead than alive....and they never believed for a moment that the celebrity could fulfill their obligations...that's when insurance comes into it...!!!!

Its all a scheme......... 
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: empyreal on February 21, 2012, 01:02:24 AM
Wow. I don't blame people for completely shutting out anything to do with the "Illuminati", or whatever they call themselves. (I try to avoid that word because it seems to make people instantly uninterested.) I was doing some research on Whitney's death and I saw a lot of distraction theories that were just completely over the top. I don't think it's an accident that these theories surface though. It makes it harder to find and believe the TRUE truth.

http://vigilantcitizen.com/latestnews/what-happened-to-whitney-houston/

I don't think a lot of you will disagree that it's all about good vs. evil. It's been like for AGES. Guys, why do bad things happen to all the good people? Why have so many African Americans died during black history month? And why do so many of these deaths occur with precise numerology? Repetitive numerology. The same numbers appear. I don't think it's hysteria. I know it's not.

@skyways Me too. It's driving me crazy just sitting here and not doing anything. I think we all need to have a legitimate brainstorm session on what we should/can do. All the years Michael tried to get the world out / fight back, he did it alone. That's why it made him such a huge target. If we had a huge army (oh wait, we do : D) then we could be undefeated. They can't take us all down.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: skyways on February 21, 2012, 01:20:10 AM
Thank You @Empyreal !!
I KNOW we can make it!
@@
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: use_your_illusion on February 21, 2012, 01:43:25 AM
Thanks 2good that makes a lot of sense...

@sky it would be great, you can make a thread if you want....hopefully MJ will give ideas, something that can make a difference.

@empyreal Yeah the word 'Illuminati' is given a bad connotation as in its fake, non existent etc...I think its a group of people who rule the world and they control the PMs, Presidents, The Queen etc, but what kind of a name can you give them to make people listen?

@2good wow I love that movie my fav dreamworks movie, better then some Disney movies...I love that song 'When you believe' with Whitney and Mariah, the bit in the movie where they are walking through the desert, just wow.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: 2good2btrue on February 21, 2012, 02:03:28 AM
I've been wanting to "make a change too" and have thought of a few ideas...Firstly, we need the numbers of people around the world, willing to try something...spontanously.  Doesn't matter about the time difference...we can work that one out....

We could USE the media again, or TWITTER.....Maybe the ARMY OF LOVE needs to put their armour on and be ready for a fight.  We just could keep it simple and send emails to the Puppet Masters with the quote..."We know what's going on"

By the way, I just remembered about this fantastic song and video from the Movie "The Prince of Eygypt"..called "When you beLIEve"....seems pretty fitting that they used a King Tut casket oustside the funeral home....maybe a hint...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjTm1TquDGw
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjTm1TquDGw[/youtube]
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: skyways on February 21, 2012, 02:28:34 AM
Fantastic  @2good!
I just imagine how confused THEY faces may be  and what the next step from THEM ??@@-  U Cant Kill INVISIBLE forces!

Thank u so much for support the idea @illusion - separate thread looks good!@@
but isnt we start already TAKE THE ACTION classes before many times?
May b its tIME to sum that up?
 THE Force of PAIN for Whitney passing/killing and all the string attached to that issue just drive me forward and truly motivate the goal of Actions.
RIP Dear((
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: MJonmind on February 21, 2012, 02:45:39 AM
SimPattyK
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- Is it possible that someone just copies their "modus operandi"  and exaggerates everything. just like  a caricature, with the purpose of exposing them? and ridicule them?
 - Are all these artists engaged in some sort of a massive exposing operation of Illuminati?

 - Have you noticed that ever since Michael "died" in 2009, these televised "satanic" shows not only have multiplied , but they have become more and more blatant and explicit??
  - I mean Nicky Minaj 's show was more than symbolic! It was waaaay EXPLICITT!!
I think this post is brilliant!
 
And thank you 2good2btrue, for posting the stirring song, If you believe.  I really believe it's all a matter of perspective.
If we have any faith in Michael, then we can believe Whitney is indeed alive.

Okay, I watched all the many interesting videos on the previous page, and still I feel overall there is a louder message, a bigger picture.
It brings again back to TS’ question of whether the Illuminati found out about MJ’s plans and beat him at his own game.  Or really is MJ beating them at their own game, maybe is the next question. There is no way this Evil of all evils, can be beaten except from within, and with someone given power and authority from on high just like Moses to lead the children of Israel out of slavery. Egypt in this case would be the slave-masters, the entertainment world ruled by TPTB.  This is truly it!

I believe Front's been telling us all kinds of whispers to do with this!
Front Jan 12
Quote
Put on your dancin' shoes
 If you so choose

 Do the Hokey-Pokey Hoax Hustle
 Army of L.O.V.E. can't lose
 
 Media wants to feast their eyes on this
 While we do the Hokey-Pokey Hoax Mix
 But wait, it cannot be confirmed
 What happened to early bird gets the worm?
 Nah, better not report it--think about it over some rum
 But no matter what you write, you still sound dumb
 
 Shake it like this
 To the left, to the right
 Do the Hokey-Pokey Hoax Mix
 From the back to the front
 Move 'til you get mag-funked
 
 Groove to the "beat" outside the "box"
 Spinning like clockwork, tick-tock, tick-tock
 This ain't no line dance
Those sons-a-b*tches don't stand a chance
Jan 5
Quote
I'm working on bringing a project to the foreFRONT, so I shall keep this short & sweet…..
 
 1. elaborately planned Master of Genius creation---June 25, 2009

 2. malevolent manipulator$ of the masses becoming----> the manipulatED -- just 1 of MANY colossal effects that #1 above has/will set forth in motion
 3. 2+ long years of profound investigative work right here on this very board
 4. do NOT give up what you already KNOW
Dec 31
Quote
Extreme "darkness" before the "Light"……..
 
 God struck Egypt with 10 plagues --- 1 of them was "Darkness" (Exodus 10:21-23). Complete and TOTAL darkness cast over the land of Egypt. They wandered around aimlessly as good as blind--- not even so much as seeing their own hand in front of their face.

 
 The miraculous story of parting the Red Sea is told in the Book of Exodus 13:17-14:29. It's also mentioned in the Qur'an (Surah 26: Al-Shu'ara, verses 60-67).
 
 tick-tock, tick-tock……..
 We must remember tIME is of the essence--- but in THIS case it is also our best friend. A few years may seem like a long time, but it's all relative when you consider the magnitude of the global effects to come for generations after the execution of this meticulously planned feat. Rest ASSURED, we WILL get to the other side of that "Red Sea".
Nov 7
Quote
Now…..lest every single piece of blatant knowledge arising from subtle whispers that have been brought to light in the last 2+ years through blood, sweat & tears--from BOTH sides, I would bet my LIFE on it!--is to be tossed out the window…every distinct fragment of the puzzle…..all SIG_S, which "coincidently" all point in the SAME direction…then there's no logical reason for anyone to give up and/or lose faith.
 
 Could mere Mortals stand to outwit the Invincible? Perhaps it is a blessing in disguise when a
"horrific plan" unfolds before your eyes! They say "ignorance is bliss"--but I have found many instances in life in which that old adage was easily refuted.
 
 2 birds:
 JU(STICE)ngle myna
 +
 acrocephalus rufESC(AP)Ens
 = 1 stone
 
 p.s. for now, enjoy the Bliss…………….
Yes, her 'death' was horrific. We have to Keep Watching the master at work!
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Tink on February 21, 2012, 03:55:11 AM
ADDICTION = BRAIN DISEASE, which overrides normal thought processes.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 21, 2012, 06:16:52 AM
@MjonMind: come here  bearhug
Love you!
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Grace on February 21, 2012, 07:35:09 AM
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gwynned
Reply #586 on: Today at 01:18:55 PM »
Who is this Raffles character and why did he dress like the Riddler?  Seriously?

This is what Forbes had to say about him:
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Despite the shock of Whitney’s death, Raffles still made it downstairs to Clive Davis’s party. He was dressed in formal wear, had Whitney’s tickets in his hand, and intended  to sit at her table. Just inside the ballroom he was comforted by celebrities to whom he related his story—“I found Whitney.”  Gayle King hugged him. Quincy Jones listened patiently to his story. A security guard told me later, “Well, he was up there.” He was also hanging around with Houston all week prior to her death. On Tuesday when she emerged from a nightclub, looking disheveled, Raffles appears in a photograph on TMZ like a deer in headlights. He is standing right behind her in a powder blue suit. On Twitter, he wrote: “STOP reading the stupid blogs.. Whitney had a great time, she looked amazing. Nothing was wrong, it was just DAMN hot in that club.”
http://www.forbes.com/sites/rogerfriedman/2012/02/18/whitney-houstons-mystery-friend-was-also-michael-jacksons-pal/ (http://www.forbes.com/sites/rogerfriedman/2012/02/18/whitney-houstons-mystery-friend-was-also-michael-jacksons-pal/)


If this should be true - how tasteless is this fame junkie really?
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: gwynned on February 21, 2012, 08:08:55 AM
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gwynned
Reply #586 on: Today at 01:18:55 PM »
Who is this Raffles character and why did he dress like the Riddler?  Seriously?

This is what Forbes had to say about him:
Quote
Despite the shock of Whitney’s death, Raffles still made it downstairs to Clive Davis’s party. He was dressed in formal wear, had Whitney’s tickets in his hand, and intended  to sit at her table. Just inside the ballroom he was comforted by celebrities to whom he related his story—“I found Whitney.”  Gayle King hugged him. Quincy Jones listened patiently to his story. A security guard told me later, “Well, he was up there.” He was also hanging around with Houston all week prior to her death. On Tuesday when she emerged from a nightclub, looking disheveled, Raffles appears in a photograph on TMZ like a deer in headlights. He is standing right behind her in a powder blue suit. On Twitter, he wrote: “STOP reading the stupid blogs.. Whitney had a great time, she looked amazing. Nothing was wrong, it was just DAMN hot in that club.”
http://www.forbes.com/sites/rogerfriedman/2012/02/18/whitney-houstons-mystery-friend-was-also-michael-jacksons-pal/ (http://www.forbes.com/sites/rogerfriedman/2012/02/18/whitney-houstons-mystery-friend-was-also-michael-jacksons-pal/)


If this should be true - how tasteless is this fame junkie really?

Sound like a completely made up story to me. 
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 21, 2012, 09:19:16 AM
Well . . . Well . . . WELL !! albino/


(http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/2057/004kvr.jpg)


Source:
http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/20/whitney-houston-funeral-family-sells-footage/

http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/21/whitney-houston-superbowl-madonna-video/

Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: ilovemjforever on February 21, 2012, 09:21:01 AM
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SimPattyK
Quote
- Is it possible that someone just copies their "modus operandi"  and exaggerates everything. just like  a caricature, with the purpose of exposing them? and ridicule them?
 - Are all these artists engaged in some sort of a massive exposing operation of Illuminati?

 - Have you noticed that ever since Michael "died" in 2009, these televised "satanic" shows not only have multiplied , but they have become more and more blatant and explicit??
  - I mean Nicky Minaj 's show was more than symbolic! It was waaaay EXPLICITT!!
I think this post is brilliant!
 
And thank you 2good2btrue, for posting the stirring song, If you believe.  I really believe it's all a matter of perspective.
If we have any faith in Michael, then we can believe Whitney is indeed alive.

Okay, I watched all the many interesting videos on the previous page, and still I feel overall there is a louder message, a bigger picture.
It brings again back to TS’ question of whether the Illuminati found out about MJ’s plans and beat him at his own game.  Or really is MJ beating them at their own game, maybe is the next question. There is no way this Evil of all evils, can be beaten except from within, and with someone given power and authority from on high just like Moses to lead the children of Israel out of slavery. Egypt in this case would be the slave-masters, the entertainment world ruled by TPTB.  This is truly it!

I believe Front's been telling us all kinds of whispers to do with this!
Front Jan 12
Quote
Put on your dancin' shoes
 If you so choose

 Do the Hokey-Pokey Hoax Hustle
 Army of L.O.V.E. can't lose
 
 Media wants to feast their eyes on this
 While we do the Hokey-Pokey Hoax Mix
 But wait, it cannot be confirmed
 What happened to early bird gets the worm?
 Nah, better not report it--think about it over some rum
 But no matter what you write, you still sound dumb
 
 Shake it like this
 To the left, to the right
 Do the Hokey-Pokey Hoax Mix
 From the back to the front
 Move 'til you get mag-funked
 
 Groove to the "beat" outside the "box"
 Spinning like clockwork, tick-tock, tick-tock
 This ain't no line dance
Those sons-a-b*tches don't stand a chance
Jan 5
Quote
I'm working on bringing a project to the foreFRONT, so I shall keep this short & sweet…..
 
 1. elaborately planned Master of Genius creation---June 25, 2009

 2. malevolent manipulator$ of the masses becoming----> the manipulatED -- just 1 of MANY colossal effects that #1 above has/will set forth in motion
 3. 2+ long years of profound investigative work right here on this very board
 4. do NOT give up what you already KNOW
Dec 31
Quote
Extreme "darkness" before the "Light"……..
 
 God struck Egypt with 10 plagues --- 1 of them was "Darkness" (Exodus 10:21-23). Complete and TOTAL darkness cast over the land of Egypt. They wandered around aimlessly as good as blind--- not even so much as seeing their own hand in front of their face.

 
 The miraculous story of parting the Red Sea is told in the Book of Exodus 13:17-14:29. It's also mentioned in the Qur'an (Surah 26: Al-Shu'ara, verses 60-67).
 
 tick-tock, tick-tock……..
 We must remember tIME is of the essence--- but in THIS case it is also our best friend. A few years may seem like a long time, but it's all relative when you consider the magnitude of the global effects to come for generations after the execution of this meticulously planned feat. Rest ASSURED, we WILL get to the other side of that "Red Sea".
Nov 7
Quote
Now…..lest every single piece of blatant knowledge arising from subtle whispers that have been brought to light in the last 2+ years through blood, sweat & tears--from BOTH sides, I would bet my LIFE on it!--is to be tossed out the window…every distinct fragment of the puzzle…..all SIG_S, which "coincidently" all point in the SAME direction…then there's no logical reason for anyone to give up and/or lose faith.
 
 Could mere Mortals stand to outwit the Invincible? Perhaps it is a blessing in disguise when a
"horrific plan" unfolds before your eyes! They say "ignorance is bliss"--but I have found many instances in life in which that old adage was easily refuted.
 
 2 birds:
 JU(STICE)ngle myna
 +
 acrocephalus rufESC(AP)Ens
 = 1 stone
 
 p.s. for now, enjoy the Bliss…………….
Yes, her 'death' was horrific. We have to Keep Watching the master at work!
Hmm,what a master that Front character is.This goes deeper than that rabbit hole i keep hearing about.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: beLIEving101 on February 21, 2012, 09:30:47 AM
I really think if the elite were after MJ now, they would just go after his kids. Its important MJ stays under the radar, making me believe he’s not on their radar, at least not yet.

However, people are asking what they can do and if the Illuminati can be stopped. Well, Its essentially 6 billion against 125-150 elite, give or take, who happen to control all the resources in the world. Its not going to be easy but I think unifying people, a mass awakening needs to occur and also we need to continue to bring the real culprits names into the mix and portray them as the scumbags that they are. Most people say Illuminati, elite and still have no idea who they even are. We even have lists online of everyone who attends the Bilderberg meetings, look into it. All the terrorists are now listed in plain site. For the first time ever, people are looking past the puppets and into the real power structure of the world. That deserves some optimism but the movement needs to grow larger. Research the culprits people, Rothschilds, Rockefeller, Queen Elizabeth and all the other cronies and spread their names. Research the Bilderbergs, Trilateral Commission, CFR.

We can’t all make the difference we want, but people are trying in different ways. We are Change led by Luke Rudkowski, you can youtube some of his clips as he goes after and confronts certain NWO globalists, amusing stuff, just a note that people are trying and there is optimism I think more than there has ever been. 
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 21, 2012, 09:32:39 AM
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Well . . . Well . . . WELL !! albino/


(http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/2057/004kvr.jpg)


Source:
http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/20/whitney-houston-funeral-family-sells-footage/

http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/21/whitney-houston-superbowl-madonna-video/

I forgot to put the last line in the left pic ^^ I think it speaks volumes!!!
"For the record ... TMZ is not one of the chosen ones."
What do you make of this ^^ OMG!!


If you watch the footage with Whitney ^^ you'll notice it was filmed from behind a bottle of something.
I couldn't see clearly... is that WATER !???
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: applehead250609 on February 21, 2012, 10:14:54 AM
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Well . . . Well . . . WELL !! albino/


(http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/2057/004kvr.jpg)


Source:
http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/20/whitney-houston-funeral-family-sells-footage/

http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/21/whitney-houston-superbowl-madonna-video/

I forgot to put the last line in the left pic ^^ I think it speaks volumes!!!
"For the record ... TMZ is not one of the chosen ones."
What do you make of this ^^ OMG!!


If you watch the footage with Whitney ^^ you'll notice it was filmed from behind a bottle of something.
I couldn't see clearly... is that WATER !???

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTlgNn7i1Ho&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Grace on February 21, 2012, 11:01:58 AM
Cowards both - the filmer and the guy at left noticing the wrongdoing.
Baaah - and who's wearing tweed trousers these days.


The water looks like FIJI water - again.

(http://www.businesspundit.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/FIJI.jpg)
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: RK on February 21, 2012, 11:04:42 AM
Does that look like fiji water? It comes in a square shaped bottle doesn't it?
I am still a fence sitter between murder or hoax in this case. The thing is that Whitney's funeral was  warm, beautiful, poignant, relevent, personal and appropriate and didn't feel weird. In comparison to Michael's memorial that just made my radar go crazy.  The pallbearers in New Ark, where Whitney's funeral took place carried the golden coffin on their shoulders. I know that this is a tradition [ tho I have never seen this done before personally] but it does relate to the way the Levites were to carry the Ark of the Covenant on their shoulders.
1Chron 15:15
And the children of the Levites bare the ark of God upon their shoulders with the staves there on- as Moses commanded according to the word of the Lord

In Michael's memorial, we had Usher/Uzza reach out and touch the coffin. Uzza in the bible was struck dead for his presumption. Also, MJ's coffin or more correctly stage prop, was wheeled, semi carried by his brothers.

I have to take these things into consideration  and ask myself the question....Are we being shown this time around how it should be done. With real emotion, genuine grief, and touching personal testimonies from all who spoke? You know, Whitney's funeral, while having sadness, was the most beautiful, and celebratory funeral I have ever witnessed. The music was exquisite. The preaching relevant and the whole atmosphere was to glorify God. They came together and had  church  that day.  When Stevie played and sang Love's in Need Of Love Today, I was just one of the people there who were standing in agreement and singing along wholeheartedly. I didn't feel like a spectator, I felt I was experiencing everything going on in that service. a service that went all over the world. I was uplifted, consoled, strengthened and comforted after watching Whitney's funeral. And this is why I probably feel so invested in and want to understand what exactly went down in the Whitney Houston hoax or murder.
Michael's memorial just left me scratching my head with odd messages I couldn't understand at that time.

Anyhow, these are just some random musings from my head at the moment.....and I am watching all that is coming to light day by day, and looking at it all from both sides.

Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: msgitm on February 21, 2012, 12:00:53 PM
Tried to view the Superbowl vid but it says; "This video contains content from Warner Bros (TMZ), who has blocked it on copyright grounds."  WTH????
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: ilovemjforever on February 21, 2012, 12:06:52 PM
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Tried to view the Superbowl vid but it says; "This video contains content from Warner Bros (TMZ), who has blocked it on copyright grounds."  WTH????
Interesting, WTF??How is that video property of Warner Bros,i did not know TMZ was owned by Warner Bros.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Grace on February 21, 2012, 12:38:14 PM
Watch the vid on TMZ:

http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/21/whitney-houston-superbowl-madonna-video/?adid=hero4 (http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/21/whitney-houston-superbowl-madonna-video/?adid=hero4)

Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: applehead250609 on February 21, 2012, 01:11:21 PM
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Tried to view the Superbowl vid but it says; "This video contains content from Warner Bros (TMZ), who has blocked it on copyright grounds."  WTH????

This works  :)   :

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUevf1wBnKw&list=UUK7IIV6Q2junGSdYK3BmZMg&index=5&feature=plpp_video[/youtube]
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: GINAFELICIA on February 21, 2012, 02:02:03 PM
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Also - I heard in the end they couldn't find ONE person who committed suicide after Michael's "death".  It was all fabricated by the media.
You mean by Michael.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: GINAFELICIA on February 21, 2012, 02:09:57 PM
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Wow...another sacrifice by no others than the Illuminati with tomati...

May be they can pass by my country and sacrifice some politicians...

hahahahaha!

But seriously Gema, they DO exist.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 21, 2012, 02:25:41 PM
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Well . . . Well . . . WELL !! albino/

(http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/2057/004kvr.jpg)

Source:
http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/20/whitney-houston-funeral-family-sells-footage/
http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/21/whitney-houston-superbowl-madonna-video/

I forgot to put the last line in the left pic ^^ I think it speaks volumes!!!
"For the record ... TMZ is not one of the chosen ones."
What do you make of this ^^ OMG!!

If you watch the footage with Whitney ^^ you'll notice it was filmed from behind a bottle of something. I couldn't see clearly... is that WATER !???

To me these last 2 TMZ articles that I posted above ^^ represent another reason for me to take one more step towards the HOAX side!

-Seeing Whitney having fun like that during Madonna's show...hummm...I don't know... To me it looks like Whitney and Madonna are accomplices to the hoax.
-I remembered how before the show Madonna said it's gonna be The Greatest Show on earth. That is NO coincidence!
-Then that FIJI water that we see in the video...
-Then TMZ who "accidentally" just happens to film Whitney watching Madonna's "satanic show" that supposedly announced her own "sacrifice" !? lmao
-TMZ underlines "for the record" that Whitney not only was not drunk, but she hadn't had any drink, so she was fully aware of what she was doing when dancing on Madonna's song.

-TMZ also makes an interesting remark in the end of that article: "At least someone was a fan of the show"
I was laughing so hard when I read that!  :lol: Why?
Because it says everything and it is so ambiguous and funny at the same time!!

It can be interpreted like this:
1. TMZ hated Madonna's show and saw that generally almost nobody loved her show, so the remark could be seen as ironic to Whitney , like they would imply Whitney has bad tastes to like the show.
^^ I highly doubt that this was the intent of that remark, but it can be seen that way, especially by those who are 100% on the sacrifice theory.

OR

2. In case we fully believe Michael is behind TMZ (which I do!), then we can interpret that remark as a funny reproach to everyone who dissed Madonna's show! it's like they said: see , even Whitney Houston who is supposedly murdered an "aftermath"/ consequence of that "ritual-show", even she likes the show ! lmao
I think it's a subtle remark implying exactly what I was starting to feel about this whole thing: that "someone" (read Michael & his team!) is trying to imitate or copy the Illuminati with the intent of exposing them and destroying them from the inside , like @MjonMind: said when she quoted me on the previous page! @MjonMind: I so loved your message and the Front messages that you posted! Indeed everything fits! We've been given clues weeks/months before , clues that we didn't know how to interpret at that time, but clues that now seem to fit into the right place of this giant puzzle!


I still don't know what to make of this phrase:
How do you guys interpret it? Of course the obvious meaning is that TMZ was not chosen by the family to be given exclusive video footage. But I think there's another hidden meaning attached to this phrase, and it reminded me of some discussions that were on the forum here about the "chosen one!" ;)

"For the record ... TMZ is not one of the chosen ones."
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Dontwalkaway on February 21, 2012, 02:53:21 PM
Thanks SimPattyK,

I am still just watching but I am so glad to see that TMZ article about Whitney watching Madonna's show.  That doesn't seem like a coincidence at all.  Why would they be focusing on writing about Whitney ?   This was a week or so "before" her "accidental" death.  And there was another bottle of Fiji water.  Yes.  I have never been so happy to see a photo with a bottle of water in it. 

Great Job as always Sim !!!
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: MJonmind on February 21, 2012, 03:03:50 PM
Madonna’ s Vogue lyrics (first half)
Quote
What Are You Looking At?
 
 Strike a pose.

 Strike a pose.
 Vogue, vogue, vogue
 Vogue, vogue, vogue
 
 Look around everywhere you turn is heartache
 It's everywhere that you go [look around]
 You try everything you can to escape
 The pain of life that you know [life that you know]
 
 When all else fails and you long to be
 Something better than you are today
 I know a place where you can get away
 It's called a dance floor, and here's what it's for, so
 
 Chorus:
 
 Come on, vogue
 Let your body move to the music
[move to the music]
 Hey, hey, hey
 Come on, vogue
 Let your body go with the flow [go with the flow]
 You know you can do it
 
 All you need is your own imagination
 So use it that's what it's for [that's what it's for]
 Go inside, for your finest inspiration
 Your dreams will open the door [open up the door]
 
 It makes no difference if you're black or white
 If you're a boy or a girl
 If the music's pumping it will give you new life
 You're a superstar, yes, that's what you are, you know it

[/m]

I can see that the water is in a square bottle, like Fiji.
“The Chosen Ones”, who are part of the “Takeover”.


The dancing reminds me of Conrad Murray dancing at the wedding to, “We are Family.”  Oh yeah, family of chosen ones, working on the mega-hoax together. Hehe!


RK
Quote
In Michael's memorial, we had Usher/Uzza reach out and touch the coffin.
How did I miss that? Can you say a little more about this? Another link to TS's AOC if true.

Grace
Quote
If this should be true - how tasteless is this fame junkie really?
In all the videos and interviews I watched with Raffles van Exel, I could see/hear a strong love for Michael. I think he's tight with Whitney and Michael, IMO.


SimPattyK
Quote
@MjonMind: come here  Love you!  bearhug
bearhug  back atcha! You just keep on  /cook/ .  You're hot on the trail!
(http://www.dunwich.org/tv/sherlock/shfacbsl.gif)
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 21, 2012, 03:34:29 PM
"A REVOLUTION will be televised !!"

Sean "Diddy" Combs announces REVOLT, his new cable TV network. REVOLT is a revolution in music on television, a place where artists and their viewers come together and engage with technology and social media. It's a channel where new artists can share their work in the way it was meant to be: raw, uncut, and uncensored. REVOLT was selected by Comcast to be the first music network to truly leverage the power of social media, fueling the live music dialogue and influencing the music culture for the video-centric generation.

[youtube] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgyyR3t5QdI&feature=share[/youtube]

^^ hummm .... (http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Reflexion/U_THIN%7E1.GIF) Revolution? "The Greatest Demonstration for FREEDOM in the History of our Nation"??


I was talking on previous pages about  my island -theory, LiLo's movie "escaping the GAME" and Liz Taylor possibly being alive (!?)
oh WOW!!  bounce/ albino/

[(http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/9721/image4eb.jpg)
http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/21/lindsay-lohan-elizabeth-taylor-lifetime-movie/#.T0QLSXlWqwc

Lindsay Lohan ain't no slacker -- TMZ has learned, the actress is studying up hardcore for her new movie role ... doing everything she can to accurately portray a young Elizabeth Taylor.
In case you haven't heard -- Lindsay just inked a deal with Lifetime to play Liz Taylor in the network's new made-for-TV biopic called "Liz and Dick." Production is scheduled to kick off late March, after Lindsay's probation is terminated.

Lindsay is telling friends, she's taking her new gig extremely seriously -- "obsessing over getting the part right" for the film.
According to sources, Lindsay is doing nothing but watching old Liz Taylor movies to help her recreate the Hollywood icon's posture, speech, and every other little detail.

We're told Lindsay has also been watching old Liz interviews online and reading a bunch of Liz biographies.
Lifetime is taking a hard stance with Lindsay too -- demanding she complete ALL her probation requirements before filming begins ... which Lindsay has promised to do.


LMFAO  :lol: :lol: :lol:
http://bigpondnews.com/articles/Entertainment/2012/02/22/Houston_wanted_to_marry_Michael_721033.html

(http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/8917/image2ecu.jpg)

Whitney Houston 'really wanted to marry' Michael Jackson - according to their friend David Gest.
The music producer was a close confidant of both the late stars, and he believes Whitney - who was laid to rest in New Jersey on Sunday (19.02.12) - would have liked to have got together with the 'Thriller' singer, but he was 'too shy' to make a move on her.

He said: 'She really loved Michael and he adored her. Michael told me they once shared a passionate kiss, and she told me she was at one time very much in love with him.
'I think she really wanted to marry him, but although he had a crush on her, he was too shy.
'Later, he confessed to me he should have made every move. If they had got together, I believe Whitney would not have done drugs or become a semi-recluse.'
The 58-year-old star - who was previously married to Liza Minnelli - saw Whitney perform in Copenhagen, Denmark, last year and he was reduced to tears by the fact she could no longer hold the notes she used to.

David - who interviewed the music legend for his acclaimed documentary 'Michael Jackson: The Life of an Icon' - added in an interview with The Sun newspaper: 'When we met last year, it was at her concert in Copenhagen and it was the saddest performance I had ever seen her give.
'Tears came to my eyes as she just couldn't hold her notes. I actually walked out after four songs, had a sob then came back to watch the rest of the show. My heart was bleeding for her.'


And this is another PRO-death-theory video
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVizkbos7Eo&feature=share[/youtube] (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/19/image2ecu.jpg/)
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: emulik on February 21, 2012, 03:53:35 PM

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I still don't know what to make of this phrase:
How do you guys interpret it? Of course the obvious meaning is that TMZ was not chosen by the family to be given exclusive video footage. But I think there's another hidden meaning attached to this phrase, and it reminded me of some discussions that were on the forum here about the "chosen one!" ;)

"For the record ... TMZ is not one of the chosen ones."

Sim, I also think that TMZ checks our forum. Today I found on their site article about Kim Kardashian. That article is not hoax related, but that bold letters on the top of the article you can not missed. It says "Front" and "Back". Here it is

http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/21/kim-kardashian-purple-bikini/?adid=hero3
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: paula-c on February 21, 2012, 06:38:03 PM
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But why kill her now, she wasn't a threat, or was it because they didn't need her anymore?



Why these dudes are some sick....
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Grace on February 21, 2012, 06:58:23 PM
Some more photographs:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2102714/Whitney-Houston-funeral-Bobbi-Kristina-Cissy-lead-mourners-wake.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2102714/Whitney-Houston-funeral-Bobbi-Kristina-Cissy-lead-mourners-wake.html)

Familiar?

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/02/17/article-0-11C782AA000005DC-720_964x613.jpg)
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: RK on February 21, 2012, 08:36:56 PM
@MJonMind,
Usher starts his performance sitting down on a stool, then after a verse stands up and walks down to where MJ's golden coffin is and places his hand on it while finishing the song. I never put two and two together with this and the Uzzah story with the Ark of the Covenant in the old testament until Melody said it in a passing comment one day in TIAI thread. It clicked into place for me then, so when I saw Whitney's pallbearers getting her casket placed on their shoulder and with no hand contact used to steady it, it seemed another relevant connection in my thinking to the Ark of the Covenant.
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Michael Jackson‘s “Gone Too Soon” has been one of the hardest songs to listen to for fans since learning of the icon’s untimely death, so imagine how hard it must have been for Usher to perform it at Michael’s memorial service.
From the very start, the performance was tough for Usher. “We love you, Michael. You meant so much to us, especially me,” Usher said as he tried to compose himself. He then launched into an incredibly heartfelt rendition of the song, even stepping off stage to sing while touching Michael’s casket. “Born to amuse, to inspire, to delight,” he crooned. “Here one day. Gone one night.” He broke down at the end just before belting the final line.

Whitney's pallbearers
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Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: ilovemjforever on February 21, 2012, 08:46:16 PM
O.k there is some serious stuff going on.I am having a hard time trying to decide,who side is TMZ on.All these latest articles have me scratching my head,like  WTF??I am losing it,i tell you,for real.lol.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: use_your_illusion on February 21, 2012, 10:02:24 PM
@Paula yep

@ilovemj, maybe they are supposed to be confusing (or MJ is personally making it confusing), because he wants to make it hard to guess...for 'them'...just what 'they',the 'evil elite' have being doing for a while, confusion is the PERFECT PLAY...

@Sim love all the things you come up with, I actually made a joke about fiji water the other day in relation to Whitney, that if a video or photo had fiji water, we would know its a hoax...lol

So if Whitney is apart of the hoax how long was her hoax planned, do you think later she purposely sang even worse, to set up her demise, or was  drugs sadly catching up with her voice?

Its scary what drugs and smoking can do to parts of your body such as your voice.

 
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: MJonmind on February 22, 2012, 12:20:49 AM
Emulik
Quote

Sim, I also think that TMZ checks our forum. Today I found on their site article about Kim Kardashian. That article is not hoax related, but that bold letters on the top of the article you can not missed. It says "Front" and "Back". Here it is http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/21/kim-kardashian-purple-bikini/?adid=hero3 (http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/21/kim-kardashian-purple-bikini/?adid=hero3)
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It's hard to tell what's hotter: Kim Kardashian's ridiculous curves from the front or her bootyful bod from the back.
 
 With her purple bikini stretched to the limit in Miami this weekend, Kim -- along with her good pal Jonathan Cheban at her side -- made sure all her smokin' hot lady parts were ready for their close-up.

 
 She can take it from all sides.

That is so funny, and I can totally see Michael writing that one--"bootyliciously".  Remember Front talking about all the sides of the cube?


Grace, your link led me to this another article:
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Brown’s sister, Tina, sold sordid photographs revealing how Whitney had turned the bathroom in her mansion into a crack-house, where she and Brown smoked Havana cigars slit open and laced with marijuana and cocaine rocks, which they called ‘blunts’.
Her teeth had fallen out due to her use of crack, and she constantly lost her $6,000 dentures. She was incontinent and wore a nappy. She was so paranoid she bored a hole in the wall to spy on callers…

For all her deficiencies, moreover, she was far from stupid. So why would she mix the cocktail of tranquillisers on which she relied to relax with champagne and neat vodka, with such abandon that, according to one well-placed source, her daughter begged her to stop?
This is one of the questions for the LA Coroner’s investigators as they try to discover why she died in the bath at the Beverly Hilton Hotel last Saturday. But there might be a straightforward answer.
Just two days earlier, the same source told the Mail that Houston had visited a throat specialist and received deeply depressing news. He told her that her vocal cords had been damaged by years of heavy drug smoking and alcohol abuse, and were beyond repair.
Did his prognosis send her into such despair that she sought oblivion, if only temporarily? If so, it might explain why, at 4am last Saturday, around 12 hours before her death, she was seen to stagger on to the balcony of her suite and twice cry out in desperation: ‘I can’t do this s*** no more!’
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2102902/Whitney-Houston-The-woman-hold-key-tragic-death.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2102902/Whitney-Houston-The-woman-hold-key-tragic-death.html)
Remember how Conrad Murray went on and on about what horrible shape Michael was in, incontinent, had jock itch, balding, etc., saying super personal things.
This sounds like a similar thing, and the press should never be disrespecting her or her family like this.


RK
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@MJonMind,
 Usher starts his performance sitting down on a stool, then after a verse stands up and walks down to where MJ's golden coffin is and places his hand on it while finishing the song. I never put two and two together with this and the Uzzah story with the Ark of the Covenant in the old testament until Melody said it in a passing comment one day in TIAI thread. It clicked into place for me then, so when I saw Whitney's pallbearers getting her casket placed on their shoulder and with no hand contact used to steady it, it seemed another relevant connection in my thinking to the Ark of the Covenant.
Thank you (and Melody) so much for your answer! Good thing Usher didn't drop dead after touching the coffin! fresse/
No coincidences, and Front did say to watch for details.  Somehow MJ has planned everything to look so casual and spontaneous. /woohoo/


Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Grace on February 22, 2012, 12:32:20 AM
MJonmind, there's no way I take British press serious.
Just wanted to link to the pictures. The text? I don't know why they even consider wasting ink for it.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: mjfansince4 on February 22, 2012, 01:27:52 AM
video deleted so there aren't doubles.

@ simpattyk - i'm so sorry!
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 22, 2012, 01:52:30 AM
@mjfansince4 : I had posted that video^^ about 2 pages ago and with comments too, maybe you'd might wanna look ;)


@MJonmind, @Dontwalkaway, @gwynned, @emulik, @use_your_illusion & all those who directly addressed to me on this thread, thank you for reading my posts and coming up with so many interesting connections that you make in relation to the info that I come with. I just feel like we're a great team! I love you and thank you!  bearhug

Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: emulik on February 22, 2012, 02:33:06 AM
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Sim, I also think that TMZ checks our forum. Today I found on their site article about Kim Kardashian. That article is not hoax related, but that bold letters on the top of the article you can not missed. It says "Front" and "Back". Here it is http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/21/kim-kardashian-purple-bikini/?adid=hero3 (http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/21/kim-kardashian-purple-bikini/?adid=hero3)
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It's hard to tell what's hotter: Kim Kardashian's ridiculous curves from the front or her bootyful bod from the back.
 
 With her purple bikini stretched to the limit in Miami this weekend, Kim -- along with her good pal Jonathan Cheban at her side -- made sure all her smokin' hot lady parts were ready for their close-up.

 
 She can take it from all sides.

That is so funny, and I can totally see Michael writing that one--"bootyliciously".  Remember Front talking about all the sides of the cube?

Yes, MJonmind, that article was written in Front`s style lolol/ TMZ is always suspicious in playing games.  albino/
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 22, 2012, 02:52:00 AM
The List of AUGUST "coincidences" lol  :lol:
Sources for this list:
- my own recollections  :lol:
- Wikipedia
- http://projectbritain.com/year/august.htm

August 4th, 1914 - The First World War (end in November 11th 1918)
August 14th, 1945 - World War II ends

August 4th, 2011 - the Jacksons announced Cardiff Tribute for MJ (held-Oct. 8th 2011)
August 4th - Taj Jackson was born (btw that's my birth-date too!! loll )
August 9th - Whitney Houston was born
August 29th - Michael Jackson was born
August 16th - Madonna was born

August 16th - Elvis Presley died
August 24th - Frank Dileo died
August 31st - Lady Diana died

August 2012 - The Olympic Games in LONDON !!
August 14th, 1948 - Opening of the Olympic Games in LONDON !!
August 2012 - Whitney Houston's Final Film 'Sparkle' (http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1679043/whitney-houston-sparkle.jhtml) is Set To Be Released
                      Clive Davis said at her funeral that she had told him she'd be
                      ready to return to the stage by August.
August 16th 2011 - TIAI redirect (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/smf2.0/index.php?topic=20123.0) to Lisa Marie's  speech that
                               she ended by saying: "I'll see you next August."

August 28th, 1963 - MLK's famous speech "I Have a Dream"
August - National Water Quality Month (wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/August))
August is mostly the month of the LION & VIRGO zodiac-signs
August is the 8th month of the year and 8 is Elvis' number
Number 8 by its shape represents a continuous perfectly closed line,
 turned on the side, no. 8 becomes the symbol of INFINITE



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The List of AUGUST "coincidences" lol  :lol:
[...]

August 4th, 2011 - the Jacksons announced Cardiff Tribute for MJ (held-Oct. 8th 2011)
[...]
^^ ERROR correction: as you can see on my montage below, the tribute was not announced that day, I recalled badly! sorry!
I just checked and it was the Ticket registration announced for the August 4th, 2011.
Anyway the "coincidence" is still there!

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Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: suspicious mind on February 22, 2012, 07:34:19 AM
question. how difficult would it be for someone with enough power (not michael) to put enough stuff out there in the right way to start to make this death look like a hoax?  just thinking.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: gwynned on February 22, 2012, 08:03:13 AM
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-Seeing Whitney having fun like that during Madonna's show...hummm...I don't know... To me it looks like Whitney and Madonna are accomplices to the hoax.
-I remembered how before the show Madonna said it's gonna be The Greatest Show on earth. That is NO coincidence!
-Then that FIJI water that we see in the video...
-Then TMZ who "accidentally" just happens to film Whitney watching Madonna's "satanic show" that supposedly announced her own "sacrifice" !? lmao
-TMZ underlines "for the record" that Whitney not only was not drunk, but she hadn't had any drink, so she was fully aware of what she was doing when dancing on Madonna's song.

-TMZ also makes an interesting remark in the end of that article: "At least someone was a fan of the show"
I was laughing so hard when I read that!  :lol: Why?
Because it says everything and it is so ambiguous and funny at the same time!!

It can be interpreted like this:
1. TMZ hated Madonna's show and saw that generally almost nobody loved her show, so the remark could be seen as ironic to Whitney , like they would imply Whitney has bad tastes to like the show.
^^ I highly doubt that this was the intent of that remark, but it can be seen that way, especially by those who are 100% on the sacrifice theory.

OR

2. In case we fully believe Michael is behind TMZ (which I do!), then we can interpret that remark as a funny reproach to everyone who dissed Madonna's show! it's like they said: see , even Whitney Houston who is supposedly murdered an "aftermath"/ consequence of that "ritual-show", even she likes the show ! lmao
I think it's a subtle remark implying exactly what I was starting to feel about this whole thing: that "someone" (read Michael & his team!) is trying to imitate or copy the Illuminati with the intent of exposing them and destroying them from the inside , like @MjonMind: said when she quoted me on the previous page! @MjonMind: I so loved your message and the Front messages that you posted! Indeed everything fits! We've been given clues weeks/months before , clues that we didn't know how to interpret at that time, but clues that now seem to fit into the right place of this giant puzzle!


I TOTALLY agree with you that Michael is destroying the Illuminati by using their own weapons against them.  However, I have a slightly different theory on Madonna.  I believe there are willing and unwilling participants in Michael's world stage drama.  Whitney is clearly a willing participant.  I don't think Madonna is.  The half time show was laughable.  If it was supposed to be a comeback show for her, it was a disaster.  I watched the show with an elderly aunt with limited vision.  Even SHE said Madonna danced very awkwardly, it was so obvious!! 

I would find it hard to believe that Michael would direct a show so unimaginative unless it was deliberate.  A farce, if you will, of the highest order with Madonna playing not the Queen, but the Fool.  ;) 
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: ilovemjforever on February 22, 2012, 08:13:04 AM
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question. how difficult would it be for someone with enough power (not michael) to put enough stuff out there in the right way to start to make this death look like a hoax?  just thinking.
I have been thinking the same myself,i am going insane over here,trying to figure out who is pulling the strings.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: ilovemjforever on February 22, 2012, 08:24:25 AM
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-Seeing Whitney having fun like that during Madonna's show...hummm...I don't know... To me it looks like Whitney and Madonna are accomplices to the hoax.
-I remembered how before the show Madonna said it's gonna be The Greatest Show on earth. That is NO coincidence!
-Then that FIJI water that we see in the video...
-Then TMZ who "accidentally" just happens to film Whitney watching Madonna's "satanic show" that supposedly announced her own "sacrifice" !? lmao
-TMZ underlines "for the record" that Whitney not only was not drunk, but she hadn't had any drink, so she was fully aware of what she was doing when dancing on Madonna's song.

-TMZ also makes an interesting remark in the end of that article: "At least someone was a fan of the show"
I was laughing so hard when I read that!  :lol: Why?
Because it says everything and it is so ambiguous and funny at the same time!!

It can be interpreted like this:
1. TMZ hated Madonna's show and saw that generally almost nobody loved her show, so the remark could be seen as ironic to Whitney , like they would imply Whitney has bad tastes to like the show.
^^ I highly doubt that this was the intent of that remark, but it can be seen that way, especially by those who are 100% on the sacrifice theory.

OR

2. In case we fully believe Michael is behind TMZ (which I do!), then we can interpret that remark as a funny reproach to everyone who dissed Madonna's show! it's like they said: see , even Whitney Houston who is supposedly murdered an "aftermath"/ consequence of that "ritual-show", even she likes the show ! lmao
I think it's a subtle remark implying exactly what I was starting to feel about this whole thing: that "someone" (read Michael & his team!) is trying to imitate or copy the Illuminati with the intent of exposing them and destroying them from the inside , like @MjonMind: said when she quoted me on the previous page! @MjonMind: I so loved your message and the Front messages that you posted! Indeed everything fits! We've been given clues weeks/months before , clues that we didn't know how to interpret at that time, but clues that now seem to fit into the right place of this giant puzzle!


I TOTALLY agree with you that Michael is destroying the Illuminati by using their own weapons against them.  However, I have a slightly different theory on Madonna.  I believe there are willing and unwilling participants in Michael's world stage drama.  Whitney is clearly a willing participant.  I don't think Madonna is.  The half time show was laughable.  If it was supposed to be a comeback show for her, it was a disaster.  I watched the show with an elderly aunt with limited vision.  Even SHE said Madonna danced very awkwardly, it was so obvious!! 

I would find it hard to believe that Michael would direct a show so unimaginative unless it was deliberate.  A farce, if you will, of the highest order with Madonna playing not the Queen, but the Fool.  ;)
I agree,i dont believe Madonna is on our side.I think she is being used by the Illuminati to push their agenda.I believe her performance was a ritual of some sort.A lot of people believe her performance was directly tied to the eventual  sacrifice  of Whitney.Its very possible that she was warned and knew they had something up their sleeve.I am not yet convinced that she hoaxed her death,but at the same time i cant put anything past Michael.God has more power than the evil ones,and this could very well be his plan for Michael,you never know.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: gwynned on February 22, 2012, 08:36:59 AM
Here's another thought.  One thing the Illuminati would always do is provide some kind of distraction just ahead of their evil deed, like Michael playing Central Park on September 10, 2001.  IF Michael is playing the game for OUR side, what GOOD deeds are going unnoticed just after Whitney's 'death? 

Has anyone noticed the large number of recent high profile resignations in the banking and political arenas?  $6 Trillion in allegedly fake bonds were uncovered in Italy as part of an 'international sting operation' involving 'money laundering.' 

I can't help feel the presence of Mr. V wielding the sword of his pen with impecability.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: ilovemjforever on February 22, 2012, 08:57:57 AM
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Here's another thought.  One thing the Illuminati would always do is provide some kind of distraction just ahead of their evil deed, like Michael playing Central Park on September 10, 2001.  IF Michael is playing the game for OUR side, what GOOD deeds are going unnoticed just after Whitney's 'death? 

Has anyone noticed the large number of recent high profile resignations in the banking and political arenas?  $6 Trillion in allegedly fake bonds were uncovered in Italy as part of an 'international sting operation' involving 'money laundering.' 

I can't help feel the presence of Mr. V wielding the sword of his pen with impecability.
Hmm,interesting. /bravo/
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: santiago on February 22, 2012, 12:20:25 PM
That is in fact very interesting.. and it's HUGE. Here's David Wilcock's take on it (I'm linking to his blog) It's a looong ass read but well worth it.. All the chapters, I highly recommend. David works together with Benjamin Fulford, the former Asia-Pacific bureau chief for Forbes Magazine.

http://divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/1023-financial-tyranny

Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: gwynned on February 22, 2012, 12:50:46 PM
Thanks for the tip on Fulford and Wilcock.  And wasn't it Forbes that printed the story on Raffles?   Speaking of pointed humor, if you like the Daily Show, you will love their take on the Whitney death media circus.  Great writing.

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tue-february-21-2012/back-in-black---whitney-houston-s-death?xrs=eml_tds
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 22, 2012, 12:51:53 PM
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[...]BTW - the circa 1950 nurse is still eating at me.  Did no one else find this odd?
:lol: :lol: Yes I do find that odd!! I think I forgot to add her in the Weird List... anyway I will do an update soon...



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OR
- Is it possible that someone just copies their "modus operandi"  and exaggerates everything. just like  a caricature, with the purpose of exposing them? and ridicule them?
- Are all these artists engaged in some sort of a massive exposing operation of Illuminati?
- Have you noticed that ever since Michael "died" in 2009, these televised "satanic" shows not only have multiplied , but they have become more and more blatant and explicit??
 - I mean Nicky Minaj 's show was more than symbolic! It was waaaay EXPLICITT!!

This is how I see things ^^ I am very puzzled and there are many unanswered questions in my head  right now!! As i said from the very beginning, on this thread, I am in a continuous  WTF?? state of mind!!
I still believe that Whitney is on Michael's plan, but I never excluded for one second that she could have been murdered. YET I can't understand why in such an OBVIOUS way! iit's really much too obvious for how the Illuminati work.
THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU!!!!!   Who else has the sense of theater? Nikki hanging on to the Pope dressed as the Harlot of Babylon???  And what about GaGa's blood and gore last year singing Papparazia?  Was Madonna's pathetic performance a form of punishment as well as another ritualistic exposure. 

As you said, if it's so secret, why make it so obvious.....UNLESS you are working to expose them.  :)
Exactly!! Nicky Minaj's show is SO exaggerated , it even looks like she's mocking the Pope!! can this be the real purpose?? It's all a circus, an artistic mockery of the Illuminati and their satanism! I start seeing it this way!  because these "music-rituals" are way too explicit for them to be for real!
These secret satanic groups don't expose themselves like that!! Their rituals are highly secretive and they have blood vowels not to tell anyone what happens at those rituals. Whomever dares to say a word gets killed!
So why would they make a public circus out of it?? On stage ?? During Music Awards and Super Bowl Breaks? when millions are watching?? Since when do the ELITE share their practices with everyone? These snobs think that only the ELITE deserves to learn about their secrets and their rituals!! Why would the Illuminati use the artists to expose those secrets ??

I think it's rather someone else (Michael) using the artists (with their consent or maybe even without them knowing in some cases!) with the purpose of exposing these occult practices to the masses and make people ask questions and research why these artists put up such bizarre numbers, make them search the symbolism behind that! I think after numerous satanic shows like that, especially with lady Gaga as seemingly a "front-leader, the Illuminati puppet", I think more and more people started to find out what/who "Illuminati" is and what that dark symbolism means! Whereas let's face it, 3-4 years ago not many knew about this stuff!!

This reminded me of Tom Cruise's movie "Eyes Wide Shut" and  The Black & Red Ritual scene. in the movie people get killed because Tom cruise had found out about that ritual without having received an "invitation" to that ritual!! he got caught when he didn't know the "secret password"! ;)
So I really doubt that the Illuminati like this kind of exposure like we saw in the shows !!

Or maybe....maybe "they" changed their tactics?! Anything is possible! maybe they don't hide anymore. But then i ask  myself what happened? Why aren't they so preoccupied anymore with hiding their secrets? Why do they expose themselves like that!? Also notice the MASK!! kind of "familiar' don't you think?? And he is saved by a woman (a sex slave in the movie) who had fallen in love with him, so she sacrifices herself for him and she gets murdered later in the film...

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3URGZYBOpAM&feature=related[/youtube]
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 22, 2012, 01:19:51 PM
Those who have researched about the Illuminati and the secret societies, know that these people are divided themselves in groups and rites (like the Scottish rite for ex.), there are rivalries even between them, between those groups and of course inside the groups, each yearning to reach higher and higher towards the top of that stupid pyramid hierarchy of theirs!
These groups do all sorts of things around the world, each independently, sometimes they know about what the other ones will be doing , sometimes they don't. They most probably recognize themselves by the symbolism and by gestures, like the 'secret handshakes' and everything. They never talk out in the open about who they are nor about what "group" they are part of, they just leave signs and have secret "conduct codes", they wear subtle symbols on clothes or insignia....

Anyway what I want to say here is that right now, with all these publicly televised events happening since Michael 'died", with all these rituals, all these deaths that look like sacrifices, I start to think that the people involved in this dark side of the world (all the Illuminati out there, I mean), they probably are in the same WTF state of mind like we are! They must be wondering: "What the h_ _ _ _ is going on?? Who killed Whitney ? What is Nicky Minaj doing? who told her to do that ritual? is she nuts or what? Which one of us does these things?" lolll  :lol: :lol: :lol: I think they are either furious thinking that some of their own peers are exposing them in such a way or they're are getting scared at how VISIBLE and how much people have been talking about "the Illuminati" recently!!

If this true ^^ then Michael must have scared the pants out of them by now!  :lol: :lol:

These guys are really scared when they are exposed in any way!! and when caught they act in the dumbest way possible!!   :lol: :lol: Do you remember this guy from the Bohemian Club?? i was like rolling on the floor when I first saw how Alex Jones made this man lose his minds! Did you hear how that guy babbled and his voice trembled??

How can it be possible that the same guys^^ from the "satanic groups" are willing to expose themselves through artists like lady gaga and Nicky Minaj or to plan such obvious numerological and synchronicity events surrounding the murder of a star so famous as Whitney Houston?
When these people execute, they do it in a discrete, masked, hidden manner! They don't do it in a famous hotel full of Grammy Awards stars!!

This is how I see things.... I don't know... I may be wrong, but I can't help it! I wanted to share my thoughts with you!

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHFoUZEjuNM[/youtube]
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: paula-c on February 22, 2012, 02:07:32 PM
"If you want to hide something, put it in the light of all"
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 22, 2012, 02:45:20 PM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ct01VgCTgXI&feature=youtu.be[/youtube]


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As I read and watch this, I am feeling really sick to my stomache.  If this was an illuminati sacrifice then it will be the LAST. I am more than ready to turn this pyramid upside down !!!!!!! 
I'll be there !

[ . . .]


Skyways,
I don't know the answer about how to do it but here are some ideas that might help the situation:

1.  Spread knowledge and information
2.  Do it nonviolently
3.  We have to unite-somehow
4.  Spread Love and not create fear
5.  Somehow have control over media, information
6.  Have control of transportation,food,money,banks,hospitals,medicine

Take control back of all our resources.  It's in the wrong hands.

[ . . .]

Skyways,
Don't feel hopeless.  I was feeling like that too but then I thought about it. I went on a Youtube channel called Opentolife.  He/she has inspirational and spiritual messages tied to the death hoax.

There was a new video on.  He/she asked the questions "Why are we here ?" and "Why does it have to be so hard ?" and these were the answers given.
We are here to change the world.  It has to be so hard because we are physical, and have duality so to know joy we have to know sorrow.  He/she also said "You are not alone".  People were sent here to change the world.

So, these messages were in Michaels songs also.  I think we just had to be reminded.  It's all in God's plan.  We just have to search for the truth.  We're going to make it.
I'll try to post the link to this channel.  You can also go on Youtube and type in Opentolife
http://www.youtube.com/user/opentolife?ob=0
  /bravo/

I also watched some videos from that channel! they are great!! and original!!
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 22, 2012, 03:25:25 PM
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On TMZ, Whitney is still alive:
Whitney Houston | Celebrity Directory (http://www.tmz.com/celebrity-directory/?adid=celeb-pg-after-add-links) 
Whitney Elizabeth Houston (born August 9, 1963) is an American R&B/pop singer, actress, and former fashion model. Houston is the most awarded female artist of all time, according to Guinness World Records, and her list of awards include 2 Emmy Awards, 6 Grammy Awards, 16 Billboard Music Awards, 22 American Music Awards, among a total of 415 career awards as of 2010. Houston is also one of the world's best-selling music artists, having sold over 170 million albums and singles worldwide. Inspired by several prominent soul singers in her extended family, including mother Cissy Houston and cousins Dionne Warwick and Dee Dee Warwick, as well as her godmother, Aretha Franklin, Houston began singing with New Jersey church's junior gospel choir at age 11. After she began performing alongside her mother in night clubs in the New York City area, she was discovered by Arista Records label head…
Also Known As: Whitney Elizabeth Houston
http://www.tmz.com/person/whitney-houston/ (http://www.tmz.com/person/whitney-houston/)


[....]

Cowards both - the filmer and the guy at left noticing the wrongdoing.
Baaah - and who's wearing tweed trousers these days.


The water looks like FIJI water - again.
interesting info about that  TMZ link!!! thank you!! ;)


I didn't quite understand what you meant by the cowards.

Quote from: Don'tWalkAway
Thanks SimPattyK,

I am still just watching but I am so glad to see that TMZ article about Whitney watching Madonna's show.  That doesn't seem like a coincidence at all.  Why would they be focusing on writing about Whitney ?   This was a week or so "before" her "accidental" death.  And there was another bottle of Fiji water.  Yes.  I have never been so happy to see a photo with a bottle of water in it.

Great Job as always Sim !!!
I'd rather say great job TMZ!! lol
I think that the Fiji water is really a strong CLUE!!!


Quote from: RK
Anyhow, these are just some random musings from my head at the moment.....and I am watching all that is coming to light day by day, and looking at it all from both sides.
I agree! me too ;)

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SimPattyK
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@MjonMind: come here  Love you!  bearhug
bearhug  back atcha! You just keep on  /cook/ .  You're hot on the trail!
(http://www.dunwich.org/tv/sherlock/shfacbsl.gif)
Thank you! you also made a good point with those lyrics from Madonna's VOGUE! Wow !
"You try everything you can to escape
[...]
I know a place where you can get away"

^^ Was Whitney trying to give a message before her "death" by dancing and having so much fun on this song ^^?  hummm ....
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: ilovemjforever on February 22, 2012, 03:37:05 PM
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Those who have researched about the Illuminati and the secret societies, know that these people are divided themselves in groups and rites (like the Scottish rite for ex.), there are rivalries even between them, between those groups and of course inside the groups, each yearning to reach higher and higher towards the top of that stupid pyramid hierarchy of theirs!
These groups do all sorts of things around the world, each independently, sometimes they know about what the other ones will be doing , sometimes they don't. They most probably recognize themselves by the symbolism and by gestures, like the 'secret handshakes' and everything. They never talk out in the open about who they are nor about what "group" they are part of, they just leave signs and have secret "conduct codes", they wear subtle symbols on clothes or insignia....

Anyway what I want to say here is that right now, with all these publicly televised events happening since Michael 'died", with all these rituals, all these deaths that look like sacrifices, I start to think that the people involved in this dark side of the world (all the Illuminati out there, I mean), they probably are in the same WTF state of mind like we are! They must be wondering: "What the h_ _ _ _ is going on?? Who killed Whitney ? What is Nicky Minaj doing? who told her to do that ritual? is she nuts or what? Which one of us does these things?" lolll  :lol: :lol: :lol: I think they are either furious thinking that some of their own peers are exposing them in such a way or they're are getting scared at how VISIBLE and how much people have been talking about "the Illuminati" recently!!

If this true ^^ then Michael must have scared the pants out of them by now!  :lol: :lol:

These guys are really scared when they are exposed in any way!! and when caught they act in the dumbest way possible!!   :lol: :lol: Do you remember this guy from the Bohemian Club?? i was like rolling on the floor when I first saw how Alex Jones made this man lose his minds! Did you hear how that guy babbled and his voice trembled??

How can it be possible that the same guys^^ from the "satanic groups" are willing to expose themselves through artists like lady gaga and Nicky Minaj or to plan such obvious numerological and synchronicity events surrounding the murder of a star so famous as Whitney Houston?
When these people execute, they do it in a discrete, masked, hidden manner! They don't do it in a famous hotel full of Grammy Awards stars!!

This is how I see things.... I don't know... I may be wrong, but I can't help it! I wanted to share my thoughts with you!

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHFoUZEjuNM[/youtube]
I like the way you think Sim.You make some very good points in this post.In my opinion,I take it that these people just don't care anymore.They are becoming very desperate and they know that they have very little time left.If you think about it,they own just about every resource in the world,and i believe they have certain agencies working with them,so they feel that they are invincible.Of course,they have to know that people are starting to notice them,but at this point,i don't think they care.I do believe that Micheal is behind some of these occurrences,but not all.There is definitely a battle going on between good and evil.We know M.J. is on the good side,but its hard to tell what the other artists are up too.Are they being coached by M.J.,or are they pushing the Illuminati s agenda.   
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 22, 2012, 03:38:46 PM
@ilovemjforever ^^ I agree with you!! loved your post!! it's true: the battle between good and evil!! ;)


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@MJonMind,
Usher starts his performance sitting down on a stool, then after a verse stands up and walks down to where MJ's golden coffin is and places his hand on it while finishing the song. I never put two and two together with this and the Uzzah story with the Ark of the Covenant in the old testament until Melody said it in a passing comment one day in TIAI thread. It clicked into place for me then, so when I saw Whitney's pallbearers getting her casket placed on their shoulder and with no hand contact used to steady it, it seemed another relevant connection in my thinking to the Ark of the Covenant.
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Michael Jackson‘s “Gone Too Soon” has been one of the hardest songs to listen to for fans since learning of the icon’s untimely death, so imagine how hard it must have been for Usher to perform it at Michael’s memorial service.
From the very start, the performance was tough for Usher. “We love you, Michael. You meant so much to us, especially me,” Usher said as he tried to compose himself. He then launched into an incredibly heartfelt rendition of the song, even stepping off stage to sing while touching Michael’s casket. “Born to amuse, to inspire, to delight,” he crooned. “Here one day. Gone one night.” He broke down at the end just before belting the final line.

Whitney's pallbearers
(http://static5.businessinsider.com/image/4f4011d5eab8ea8911000034-590/houstons-body-was-carried-out-of-the-church-on-the-pallbearers-shoulders.jpg)
Interesting Bible-parallels!!  /bravo/


Quote from: use_your_illusion
@Sim love all the things you come up with, I actually made a joke about fiji water the other day in relation to Whitney, that if a video or photo had fiji water, we would know its a hoax...lol
loll  :lol: that's the power of thought! loll
thank you!  bearhug

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@Sim [...] So if Whitney is apart of the hoax how long was her hoax planned, do you think later she purposely sang even worse, to set up her demise, or was  drugs sadly catching up with her voice?
Its scary what drugs and smoking can do to parts of your body such as your voice.
Well I don't know how long she's been part of the hoax. But knowing how well this hoax has been planned and for such a long time, paying attention to any 'small" detail, from numerology to clothing-clues! I'd  think that Whitney was part of this for a long time, especially with the Elvis connections, being a friend of Michael and his family for so many years, and also I can't get out of my head the forever present Reverends! Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson - also connected to MLK! So... I'd say it looks like she's been in on it for longer ...

Then what you said about her voice, it's possible either that she faked 'a broken voice' or I'd also take into consideration her age ! it is known that after a certain age the voice may lower more or less!  Maybe she lost her voice during the years where she didn't perform, she didn't train her voice anymore...
Maybe it was from the period where she was taking drugs... maybe she smoke too much... I don't know! Maybe all these variants ^^ are possible at the same time! there are many factors that can influence a singer's voice throughout their lives! for good or for bad.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 22, 2012, 03:57:34 PM
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Sim, I also think that TMZ checks our forum. Today I found on their site article about Kim Kardashian. That article is not hoax related, but that bold letters on the top of the article you can not missed. It says "Front" and "Back". Here it is http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/21/kim-kardashian-purple-bikini/?adid=hero3 (http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/21/kim-kardashian-purple-bikini/?adid=hero3)
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It's hard to tell what's hotter: Kim Kardashian's ridiculous curves from the front or her bootyful bod from the back.
 
 With her purple bikini stretched to the limit in Miami this weekend, Kim -- along with her good pal Jonathan Cheban at her side -- made sure all her smokin' hot lady parts were ready for their close-up.

 
 She can take it from all sides.

That is so funny, and I can totally see Michael writing that one--"bootyliciously". Remember Front talking about all the sides of the cube?
@Emulik: wow!! that Front & Back article on TMZ is truly amazing!! WoW! I mean what more proof do we need!!
And @MjonMind you made me laugh "bootyliciously"  :lol: :lol:

And did you notice also the color PURPLE ??? again!! ;)


@mjfansince4: You don't need to be sorry. have you read the comments I made regarding that video? what do you think?

@gwynned: you quoted one of my long posts, but it appears as Gina had written it lol
I agree with what you say: some of those artists are taking sides! some are on Michael's side, some are on the evil side. And it's hard now for us to be able to make clear distinctions between them.... i also loved what you said about Mr. V in your next post ;) And thanks for this link ;) http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tue-february-21-2012/back-in-black---whitney-houston-s-death?xrs=eml_tds

@santiago: your link doesn't work. can you tell us more pls?
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 22, 2012, 04:26:48 PM
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From Pearl Jr. twitter:
WTF???!!! The National Enquirer Put Up A FAKE WHITNEY HOUSTON DEATH PIC
 On The COVER Of This Week's Magazine!!!

http://cdn.mediatakeout.com/54243/wtf-the-national-enquirer-put-up-a-fake-whitney-houston-death-pic-on-the-cover-of-this-week-s-magazine.html

(http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/9531/1329387782e65e2427cc.jpg)

Funny how the Enquirer always gets "the Last Photo!"

http://eg.ru/daily/worldstars/30479/

(http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/8260/133600.jpg)

^^ PURPLE Dress !!


 It reminds me of Elvis' wax figure in the coffin.

(http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/7695/6a00d8341c2ca253ef0168e.jpg)
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: ilovemjforever on February 22, 2012, 04:41:23 PM
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From Pearl Jr. twitter:
WTF???!!! The National Enquirer Put Up A FAKE WHITNEY HOUSTON DEATH PIC
 On The COVER Of This Week's Magazine!!!

http://cdn.mediatakeout.com/54243/wtf-the-national-enquirer-put-up-a-fake-whitney-houston-death-pic-on-the-cover-of-this-week-s-magazine.html

(http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/9531/1329387782e65e2427cc.jpg)

Funny how the Enquirer always gets "the Last Photo!"

http://eg.ru/daily/worldstars/30479/

(http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/8260/133600.jpg)

^^ PURPLE Dress !!


 It reminds me of Elvis' wax figure in the coffin.

(http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/7695/6a00d8341c2ca253ef0168e.jpg)
She looks like she is sleeping.Is that picture even real.Yes it is interesting that she is wearing purple,indeed.How can they leak her picture like that,without the family's consent.Very creepy.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: hesouttamylife on February 22, 2012, 05:06:42 PM
While we are discussing other hoaxes, has anyone been able to verify where Peter Lopez is buried?  I can’t seem to find it anywhere.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 22, 2012, 05:11:25 PM
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Funny how the Enquirer always gets "the Last Photo!"



 It reminds me of Elvis' wax figure in the coffin.

(http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/7695/6a00d8341c2ca253ef0168e.jpg)


http://eg.ru/daily/worldstars/30479/

(http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/8260/133600.jpg)

^^ PURPLE Dress !!


Funny how James Brown also wore a PURPLE suit in his coffin !!!

(http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/1849/jb4v.jpg)
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Tink on February 22, 2012, 05:35:36 PM
James Brown wore BLUE. As upsetting as it is for me to look at this, it confirms in my mind that Whitney Houston is indeed deceased. The way her head lays, is the exact same way Marilyn Monroe's head lay after her autopsy...chin to chest.  pale/
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 22, 2012, 05:44:07 PM
Regarding ^^ James Brown's suit in the coffin, I found this comment on a site. I find it VERY interesting!! especially with the "hot tub" mentioning, especially since we know how Whitney supposedly died!! I wonder who really wrote this comment back in Jan. 6th, 2007!! here's the link where you can see it: http://www.topix.com/forum/afam/T2LN9GTC9AKRA8DU2/p3


"James Brown had a coffin costume change.
He went from "I feel good" purple suit,
to a "To hot for the hot tub" red shirt and black jacket.
I have never seen that before....
James the trendsetter even in death. "


(http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/2819/purpleclothescoffin.jpg)


@Tink: on some sites people say it was blue, on others they say it was purple...
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: hesouttamylife on February 22, 2012, 05:44:31 PM
It was reported that no gun was found near the body, though he was shot through the head.  Did he toss the gun somewhere afterwards  :roll:  Unbelievable.  Brushed quietly under the rug.  Not a thing investigated. Locked down.  Wow.  That’s deep.  /white flag/   If my memory serves me, I never saw it reported in anything other than the tabloids.  Poor Peter, or is he too with Michael?  That’s a thought!  But I doubt it.  More than likely killed by a hit because he knew too much. 
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: hesouttamylife on February 22, 2012, 05:58:10 PM
And finally… where’s the note?  No one, even the police, never produced it or even said definitively that one even exists.   WTF??
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Tink on February 22, 2012, 05:58:35 PM
The one with Michael Jackson, that's either first or second outfit: James Brown is indeed wearing a black suit, bowtie and gloves.

That photo is just overly saturated, being a copy of a copy.

I see 3 colors, with James Brown on that page: Purple, while he's alive. The blue sparkly outfit - edit - one costume.
Michael with James reminds me of being with my dad...I put red roses with him, just like that.  :'(

Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 22, 2012, 06:11:06 PM
@Tink go on wikipedia and read: "Brown's public and private memorial ceremonies were elaborate, complete with costume changes for Brown and videos featuring him in concert performances." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Brown#Death_and_aftermath

There were definitely 2 different costumes, no photo-altering as you said!
And one costume was  purple and the other one was black with red shirt.

(http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/7593/image12xi.jpg)


"The The Rev. Al Sharpton stood next to the open casket, where Brown was dressed in a purple sequined satin suit with white gloves and silver boots and a silver turtleneck. Sharpton addressed the public later in the evening. " - http://panafricannews.blogspot.com/2006/12/james-brown-eulogized-rare-interview.html

(http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/6091/funeralbrownphilsharpto.jpg)
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Adi on February 22, 2012, 06:58:59 PM
Also - it's  a bit hard to tell - but did JB's gloves change from white to black as well?? It looks like in the pic with the red shirt his gloves are black.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 22, 2012, 07:01:26 PM
yes Adi, it looks that way, the gloves color changed too!

But what puzzles me the most is how in the name of God! how were they able to undress
and then dress back in another costume, a dead body that logically has rigor-mortise!!
How did they manage to do that!!??

Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: paula-c on February 22, 2012, 07:06:56 PM

National Enquirer hired Model for the death scene phase of Whitney Houston




(http://cbswwmx.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/national-enquirer-whitney-houston.png?w=385&h=240&crop=1)










This may be a new low. Here's the entire National Enquirer cover that features a model acting as Whitney's dead body:Here's the cover in the National Enquirer which has a body quality model Whitney

(http://cbswwmx.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/national-enquirer-whitney-houston-model-body.png?w=385&h=467)












In small print below the photo of the model "Photo re-creation"

There is a far worse photo, featuring the model submerged in a bathtub, at this link on Jezebel.com .There is a much worse picture, with the model immersed in a bath at this link on Jezebel.com .

A reader at Jezebel points out that this is the creepiest faked magazine story since Newsweek photoshopped Princess Di walking with Kate Middleton .A reader points Jezebel points out that this is more creepy falsified history from the magazine Newsweek photoshopped Princess Diana walking with Kate Middleton .

UPDATE: The National Enquirer has gotten even worse…They've published a photo of Whitney laying in her casket . UPDATE: The National Enquirer has gotten worse ... They have released a photo of Whitney lying in his coffin



http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=es&langpair=en%7Ces&rurl=translate.google.co.ve&u=http://mix1065fm.radio.com/2012/02/16/national-enquirer-hires-model-to-stage-whitney-houston-death-scene/&usg=ALkJrhg4dsN5oMLgCsJjLKFouABv-7t8HA




National Enquirer Cover Whitney Houston Shows In Open Casket


The National Enquirer has published a photo of Whitney Houston in an open coffin on the cover of This week's issue.

The unauthorized picture shows Houston lying in a golden coffin, and wearing a purple dress. The picture shows Unauthorized Houston in a golden coffin lying, and wearing a purple dress. It is accompanied by the headline, "WHITNEY: THE LAST PHOTO!" It is Accompanied by the headline, "WHITNEY: THE LAST PHOTO!"

According to the Daily Mail , the National Enquirer claims the photo was taken at Whigham Funeral Home in Newark, New Jersey. According To the Daily Mail , the National Enquirer claims the photo WAS taken at Whigham Funeral Home in Newark, New Jersey. The tabloid did not specify who took the picture, which has provoked shock on Twitter . The tabloid did not Specify who Took the picture, Which Provoked shock you on Twitter .

Members of Houston's family attended a private wake at the funeral home last Friday. Members of Houston's family Attended a private wake at the funeral home last Friday. Over 1,000 friends and relatives, including Oprah Winfrey and Mariah Carey, gathered for a larger service for the pop legend the next day. Friends and relatives over 1.000, Including Oprah Winfrey and Mariah Carey, Gathered for a larger service for the pop legend the next day. Houston was found unresponsive in the Beverly Hilton on the eve of the Grammy Awards. Houston WAS found unresponsive in the Beverly Hilton on the eve of the Grammy Awards. She died at the age of 48 . She died at the age of 48 .

It is not the first time a publication splashed such a graphic photo on the front page. It is not the first time to publication Splashed Such a graphic photo on the front page. Newspapers published an image of Michael Jackson on his deathbed when his former physician Dr. Conrad Murray was on trial. Newspapers published an image of Michael Jackson on His deathbed when to historical former physician Dr. Conrad Murray WAS on trial.

Click through to GossipDavid to see the National Enquirer's Whitney Houston cover. Click through to GossipDavid to see the National Enquirer's cover Whitney Houston.





http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/22/national-enquirer-whitney-houston-cover_n_1294528.html






I believe that Pearl Jr going too far with all this, she doesn't even know if Whitney is alive, she is confined to publish a photo from a magazine garbage as National Enquirer, who can guarantee if the woman of the coffin is Whitney,.. or another model ... or photoshop?
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Tink on February 22, 2012, 07:08:12 PM
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@Tink go on wikipedia and read: "Brown's public and private memorial ceremonies were elaborate, complete with costume changes for Brown and videos featuring him in concert performances." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Brown#Death_and_aftermath

There were definitely 2 different costumes, no photo-altering as you said.
And one was  purple and the other one was black with red shirt.

@SimPatty No photo altering, I'll give you that.  But what you originally posted was WASHED OUT, turning purple into blue.

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yes Adi, it looks that way, the gloves color changed too!

But what puzzles me the most is how in the name of God! how were they able to undress
and then dress back in another costume, a dead body that logically has rigor-mortise!!
How did they manage to do that!!??



@SimPatty - You are absolutely INCORRECT on this one! Rigor Mortis only lasts for a set amount of time. After the funeral parlor does their work, and the veins have embalming fluid in them, the body can quite easily be moved. May be slightly bloated, but if died of natural causes, there's no autopsy, so they just adjust the embalming fluid every day. I know - because had it done to family members. As long as the slit up the back on the outfits, everything fits fine - same for the shoes.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: BeTheChange on February 22, 2012, 07:32:39 PM
Still doesn't explain the need for 'costume changes' on a corpse.

@Sim...even though I haven't posted much on the 'Whitney' topic (I'm just letting it all simmer)...I read all the posts and I really appreciate all the work you're doing.  Keep it up!

With L.O.V.E. always.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: wishingstar on February 22, 2012, 09:21:46 PM
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@Sim...even though I haven't posted much on the 'Whitney' topic (I'm just letting it all simmer)...I read all the posts and I really appreciate all the work you're doing.  Keep it up!

With L.O.V.E. always.

Ditto :)
and Blessings ;)
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Adi on February 22, 2012, 09:42:11 PM
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yes Adi, it looks that way, the gloves color changed too!

But what puzzles me the most is how in the name of God! how were they able to undress
and then dress back in another costume, a dead body that logically has rigor-mortise!!
How did they manage to do that!!??

Exactly - even if rigor had set in or not.....why would they bother to change clothes on a corpse?

It's very odd.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: mjj4ever777 on February 22, 2012, 09:49:38 PM
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@Sim...even though I haven't posted much on the 'Whitney' topic (I'm just letting it all simmer)...I read all the posts and I really appreciate all the work you're doing.  Keep it up!

With L.O.V.E. always.

Ditto :)
and Blessings ;)

Ditto, Ditto :) Haven't been posting much, but reading and letting this all sink in... sigh...the Whitney pic...I pray that this is a hoax, cause if not, then there are some really sick people out there who will do ANYTHING for a buck!!

I hope that you are all well, and I send you my LOVE always!
 bearhug
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: msgitm on February 22, 2012, 09:58:13 PM
If that picture of Whitney is indeed real, I think someone from the funeral home took it.  Notice the room is empty.  I don't think anyone in the Houston family, or her friends, would sink that low.  Plus they were all there at the same viewing time. 
One thing - shouldn't her hands be on her chest?  Also, is it me or does she look younger?  Sort of like Elvis, only he turned back the clock 20 years & lost 80 pounds to boot!
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: msgitm on February 22, 2012, 10:06:04 PM
Just noticed one other thing - why is there a sheet pulled back and drapped on the lower part of the coffin?  I've never heard of them covering up the body in the casket with a sheet, what's the point?  Also, did they buy those drapes from the 100 Carolwood auction?  Not too sure what to think about this pic.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: LoveShyMichael on February 22, 2012, 11:08:47 PM
I will comment on the blue/purple suit. When my boyfriend was looking to buy a motorcycle, (which is a Honda Goldwing) & he found one in another state, so the owner just sent pictures of the bike. The pictures showed we we're clearly looking at a BLUE bike.

When we flew to Ohio to get the bike, we we're both suprised the bike "looked PURPLE"....

The color of the bike was Illusion Blue ( yes, seems like it was just an illusion that's it's going to be blue).

I enclosed some pictures of the bike to show how the color changes & looks a different color in light, & with the naked eye.

It's funny I would take a picture & know that the bike looks PURPLE when I took it. I look at the picture, & it's beautiful BLUE.....

It's a beautiful bike, but I always wanted it to be the beautiful BLUE that I see in the pictures. But with my naked eye, it's PURPLE.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: LoveShyMichael on February 22, 2012, 11:28:21 PM
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If that picture of Whitney is indeed real, I think someone from the funeral home took it.  Notice the room is empty.  I don't think anyone in the Houston family, or her friends, would sink that low.  Plus they were all there at the same viewing time. 
One thing - shouldn't her hands be on her chest?  Also, is it me or does she look younger?  Sort of like Elvis, only he turned back the clock 20 years & lost 80 pounds to boot!

It's not uncommon to take pictures at a funeral. I took pictures of my dad in his casket. I felt my dad looked the most peaceful since he was struggling towards the end. So the pictures in his casket, he looked peaceful. And that memory of my dad at peace is what I remember when I lost him.

My grandma died couple years ago & I also took pictures of her whole funeral. I even videotaped it. Which I hate to say had to use it later on to view back on my aunt receiving cards from friends, because she disputed that no one brought any cards & she had to pay the funeral herself.

My boyfriends parents died 2 years ago, I also videotaped both of their funerals. It's nice for the family to look back on what was said, since emotions are running high,, you tend to forget all the people who cared & showed up, & maybe didn't even have a chance to hear what they we're saying. Especially those family members that got up & gave moments of the loved ones life with them.
So pictures & video from family is accepted.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: LoveShyMichael on February 22, 2012, 11:36:31 PM
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@Paula yep

@ilovemj, maybe they are supposed to be confusing (or MJ is personally making it confusing), because he wants to make it hard to guess...for 'them'...just what 'they',the 'evil elite' have being doing for a while, confusion is the PERFECT PLAY...

@Sim love all the things you come up with, I actually made a joke about fiji water the other day in relation to Whitney, that if a video or photo had fiji water, we would know its a hoax...lol

So if Whitney is apart of the hoax how long was her hoax planned, do you think later she purposely sang even worse, to set up her demise, or was  drugs sadly catching up with her voice?

Its scary what drugs and smoking can do to parts of your body such as your voice.

 

It's not just the & smoking that would interfere with a raspy voice.

We have to remember also that Whitney wasn't singing on a constant basis anymore. She was trying to make a comeback, meaning she wasn't singing like she did when she either toured or was in studio.

So when she started singing again more consistent, of course her vocal cords we'rent used to that usage again. So the voice would become strained & raspy.

Smoking doesn't help, that's for sure, but her comeback I'm sure contributed to her vocal cords being overworked.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: alfarle on February 23, 2012, 03:12:29 AM
NATIONAL ENQUIRER ARE SOME COMPLETE ASSHOLES! Excuse the lango. Not sure if any of you on here have seen it yet but they posted /published a photo of the L8 Whitney Houston in her casket....:( I would post the link , but I don't want to be upsetting to anyone on here. In my opinion when I first saw it, it looks like it's either from her "I'm your baby tonight" video or "The greatest love of all".I'm thinking it's photohopped....BUT , I reflect on the funeral footage where her sis n law said that for those who didn't get to view the body, just remember the "greatest love of all " video. It's SOOOOO sad and disturbing that the media can go SOOOOO f'n far just to make a buck ! NO SENSITIVITY  WHAT SO EVER....TO HER FAMILY, FRIENDS, AND FANS! Just so EVIL! :( :'(
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: alfarle on February 23, 2012, 03:15:59 AM
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Funny how the Enquirer always gets "the Last Photo!"



 It reminds me of Elvis' wax figure in the coffin.

(http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/7695/6a00d8341c2ca253ef0168e.jpg)


http://eg.ru/daily/worldstars/30479/

(http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/8260/133600.jpg)

^^ PURPLE Dress !!


Funny how James Brown also wore a PURPLE suit in his coffin !!!

(http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/1849/jb4v.jpg)


I'm really hoping that this is a fake photo of Whitney. :( The one of James Brown doesn't even look like him. Why does he have veins popping out of his temple area if he's dead? Maybe my eyes are playing tricks on me....
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: mac5k on February 23, 2012, 05:37:53 AM
500.000$ in her coffin and  any security at the grave ...?  ::)

(http://images.toronto.com/images/6d/9d/8bc3f3654407bdacbd55e367cf66.jpg)

Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Grace on February 23, 2012, 08:01:43 AM
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Overload of Whitney Houston grave gawkers closes Westfield cemetery to public
Published: Monday, February 20, 2012,  9:30 PM     Updated: Tuesday, February 21, 2012, 10:00 PM

The Westfield cemetery where Whitney Houston was laid to rest in a private ceremony Sunday was closed to fans today amid a crush of visitors eager to catch a glimpse of the fallen superstar’s grave.

As news helicopters idled overhead, more than 100 vehicles clogged Fairview Cemetery’s narrow lanes, the traffic spilling from the entrances to the streets outside.

"Someway, somehow, word got out that the cemetery was open to the public," Westfield police Capt. Cliff Auchter said. "And in the early afternoon, there was a tremendous increase in visitors that created tremendous traffic problems."

Early in the day, cemetery personnel and police allowed small groups of visitors to approach the grave site, its bare earth heaped with flowers. Two officers stood watch nearby, ensuring nothing was taken.

But as morning blended into afternoon, the number of visitors grew, causing gridlock on the unmarked paths and on roads outside the cemetery.

In addition, according to a Westfield police officer at the scene, members of the singer’s family arrived to pay their respects and were troubled by the crowds. The relatives requested that access to the site be restricted, said the officer, who declined to give his name.

Police closed the cemetery gates shortly after 2 p.m., allowing passage only to those with loved ones inside. Houston, who died Feb. 11 at age 48, is buried near her father, John Russell Houston, Jr.

Today’s spectacle brought some substance to the fears voiced by Westfield residents leading up to the burial. They said they worried Fairview would become a tourist attraction, transforming a place of reverence into a carnival.

Ted Simpson, a resident of neighboring Garwood, posted a hand-made sign across the street from the cemetery today, urging the public to stay away.

"Please let Whitney rest in peace," the sign read. "If you want to show your love, buy her music."
Houston’s family has struggled to maintain its privacy, no small task given the public interest in the death of one of the world’s top-selling female vocalists and the scores of celebrities who attended her funeral in Newark Saturday.

Auchter, the Westfield police captain, said that until further notice, the cemetery will be open only to those with family buried there.
"I don’t know how long this is going to go on for," he said. "People will always be trying to pull a fast one to get in. We have to be attuned."
By Tomas Dinges (tdinges@starledger.com) and Jeanette Rundquist (jrundquist@starledger.com)/The Star-Ledger
Star-Ledger staff writer Mark Mueller contributed to this report.






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A hand-written sign found outside the cemetery urges fans to let Houston rest in peace.

http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2012/02/whitney_houston_grave_site.html (http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2012/02/whitney_houston_grave_site.html)
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: suspicious mind on February 23, 2012, 08:24:34 AM
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Overload of Whitney Houston grave gawkers closes Westfield cemetery to public
Published: Monday, February 20, 2012,  9:30 PM     Updated: Tuesday, February 21, 2012, 10:00 PM

The Westfield cemetery where Whitney Houston was laid to rest in a private ceremony Sunday was closed to fans today amid a crush of visitors eager to catch a glimpse of the fallen superstar’s grave.

As news helicopters idled overhead, more than 100 vehicles clogged Fairview Cemetery’s narrow lanes, the traffic spilling from the entrances to the streets outside.

"Someway, somehow, word got out that the cemetery was open to the public," Westfield police Capt. Cliff Auchter said. "And in the early afternoon, there was a tremendous increase in visitors that created tremendous traffic problems."

Early in the day, cemetery personnel and police allowed small groups of visitors to approach the grave site, its bare earth heaped with flowers. Two officers stood watch nearby, ensuring nothing was taken.

But as morning blended into afternoon, the number of visitors grew, causing gridlock on the unmarked paths and on roads outside the cemetery.

In addition, according to a Westfield police officer at the scene, members of the singer’s family arrived to pay their respects and were troubled by the crowds. The relatives requested that access to the site be restricted, said the officer, who declined to give his name.

Police closed the cemetery gates shortly after 2 p.m., allowing passage only to those with loved ones inside. Houston, who died Feb. 11 at age 48, is buried near her father, John Russell Houston, Jr.

Today’s spectacle brought some substance to the fears voiced by Westfield residents leading up to the burial. They said they worried Fairview would become a tourist attraction, transforming a place of reverence into a carnival.

Ted Simpson, a resident of neighboring Garwood, posted a hand-made sign across the street from the cemetery today, urging the public to stay away.

"Please let Whitney rest in peace," the sign read. "If you want to show your love, buy her music."
Houston’s family has struggled to maintain its privacy, no small task given the public interest in the death of one of the world’s top-selling female vocalists and the scores of celebrities who attended her funeral in Newark Saturday.

Auchter, the Westfield police captain, said that until further notice, the cemetery will be open only to those with family buried there.
"I don’t know how long this is going to go on for," he said. "People will always be trying to pull a fast one to get in. We have to be attuned."
By Tomas Dinges (tdinges@starledger.com) and Jeanette Rundquist (jrundquist@starledger.com)/The Star-Ledger
Star-Ledger staff writer Mark Mueller contributed to this report.






(http://media.nj.com/ledgerupdates_impact/photo/10586682-large.jpg)

A hand-written sign found outside the cemetery urges fans to let Houston rest in peace.

http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2012/02/whitney_houston_grave_site.html (http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2012/02/whitney_houston_grave_site.html)


to me such a double edge sword to this more simple place of burial. probably after a while curiousity will die down but in the mean time relatives and friends of others buried there will have to deal with people being there that wouldnt normally. to bad there was some way to keep this aspect of it to themselves, for the sake of others as well as whitney's family.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: msgitm on February 23, 2012, 11:57:20 AM
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500.000$ in her coffin and  any security at the grave ...?  ::)

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They wouldn't leave the jewellery on her, it was just for her viewing.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Tink on February 23, 2012, 12:57:42 PM
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500.000$ in her coffin and  any security at the grave ...?  ::)

(http://images.toronto.com/images/6d/9d/8bc3f3654407bdacbd55e367cf66.jpg)



They wouldn't leave the jewellery on her, it was just for her viewing.

That is exactly right. I was informed bluntly that if you don't - people who work the burial WILL remove it, and sell it for themselves. You won't even know it - they check before they ratchet the casket closed one final time, while out of site.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 23, 2012, 01:11:27 PM
Real Life Thriller
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: diggyon on February 23, 2012, 02:45:56 PM
I really don't know what to think till now. I hope she is not dead. All these oddities!!! That's really strange. I remember TS saying that we will get confused about certain theories!!!! Something is going on!!!!!!
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Adi on February 23, 2012, 02:51:28 PM
 
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Real Life Thriller

I hope they spell her name correctly on the headstone.....if not, then my eyes will really go  afraid/
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: paula-c on February 23, 2012, 06:17:21 PM
Whitney Houston Was Murdered: Nancy Grace - Video

HLN Nancy Grace host appeared on CNN sister network on Feb. 13 to discuss the death of Whitney Houston, and the singer WAS Asserted Possibly murdered.

About Houston's commentary Her cause of death possible murder Being Caused CNN's conservative news anchors to scurry to control viewers' reactions.

While speaking to CNN's Brooke Baldwin, Grace ADMITTED That the cause of Houston's death HAD not Been Determined, But she Began posing the possible future of the autopsy investigation, and Compared the case to the murder of Michael Jackson and the strange death of Anna Nicole Smith .


"I'd like to know Who was around her," Grace said. "Who, if anyone, gabe Following her Alcohol and drugs drugs. And who let her slip, or pushed her, That underneath water? "
That WAS Revealed Houston Police found submerged in her bathtub, and They Have Conducted an initial autopsy.

The Los Angeles Coroner's Office released Houston's death certificate last week, after Grace's comments, and the cause of death Stated was "pending investigation" and immediate cause was "deferred."

They Have Been Investigating the prescription medicines found in her room, Which Were Their Spokesman said less than the amount He Had In His Own home.

The coroner's office has Issued subpoenas to Houston's doctors and pharmacies, Which Seems to be pointing to the Fact That They Are Investigating Houston's death as involuntary manslaughter - a form of murder - the crime Michael Jackson's Dr. Conrad Murray WAS Convicted of Committing.

"Apparently, no signs of force or trauma to the body," Grace said. "Who let her Whitney Houston go under water?"

In an Attempt to not get sued historical news network, Baldwin responded, "All excellent questions. Again, we do not know the cause of her death. "

After the segment, CNN news anchor Don Lemon appeared on camera to Conduct damage control. I Told That viewers Any discussion of Houston's prescription drugs Contributing to her death Should not be taken as fact.

"This is not CNN's reporting," I said. "We do not know That to be true."

Video of Nancy Grace Whitney Houston's Saying autopsy may Prove She Was murdered:


http://translate.google.co.ve/translate?hl=es&sl=es&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Ftruthquake.com%2F2011%2F01%2F03%2Fwhitney-houston-beware-dark-occult-celebrities-%25E2%2580%2593-watch%2F


See video in the Link
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: MJonmind on February 23, 2012, 09:11:52 PM
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500.000$ in her coffin and  any security at the grave ...?  ::)

(http://images.toronto.com/images/6d/9d/8bc3f3654407bdacbd55e367cf66.jpg)



They wouldn't leave the jewellery on her, it was just for her viewing.



What an opposite place for burial to Forest Lawn with it's artistic marble and celebrity resting place status. Here we have brown grass and crumbling curbs.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: RK on February 23, 2012, 09:29:24 PM
The death / funeral / burial was very quick in comparison to the MJ fiasco also.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: gwynned on February 23, 2012, 10:51:34 PM
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The death / funeral / burial was very quick in comparison to the MJ fiasco also.

It always takes longer the first time.  Once you've worked out the kinks, you can knock 'm out in a couple of days.  :)  I don't mean any disrespect because it seems clear to me we have another hoax. 

And, maybe it's just me, but do you all feel like things are speeding up?  Those first two years dragged on forever but I've been having trouble keeping up with things.  And so maybe this is wishful thinking, but maybe things are speeding up because we're nearing a conclusion to his/tory.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: MJonmind on February 23, 2012, 11:53:58 PM
gwynned
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Once you've worked out the kinks, you can knock 'm out in a couple of days.
:lol:   You make it sound like it's a piece of cake, or pie!  So I wonder who's next that needs to escape the game?
Someone the media is dragging through the mud.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: RK on February 24, 2012, 12:07:36 AM
This is another coincidence. Just like Elvis and Michael. Whitney had a song called Heartbreak Hotel. Dunno whether it is relavent or not, but it is another similarity.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEmdW3_bi4c&feature=relmfu (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEmdW3_bi4c&feature=relmfu)
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: RK on February 24, 2012, 01:11:07 AM
http://www.mj-upbeat.com/documents/WhitneyHoustonsACTUALfuneralprogram.pdf (http://www.mj-upbeat.com/documents/WhitneyHoustonsACTUALfuneralprogram.pdf)
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: MJonmind on February 24, 2012, 02:27:54 AM
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http://www.mj-upbeat.com/documents/WhitneyHoustonsACTUALfuneralprogram.pdf (http://www.mj-upbeat.com/documents/WhitneyHoustonsACTUALfuneralprogram.pdf)
This is a tad creepy/scary. Cissy's note to her daughter Whitney. pale/


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Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: applehead250609 on February 24, 2012, 03:08:26 AM
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http://www.mj-upbeat.com/documents/WhitneyHoustonsACTUALfuneralprogram.pdf (http://www.mj-upbeat.com/documents/WhitneyHoustonsACTUALfuneralprogram.pdf)
This is a tad creepy/scary. Cissy's note to her daughter Whitney. pale/


(http://i1202.photobucket.com/albums/bb371/lifeisamovie1/CissytodaughterWhitney.jpg)

"......I never told you that when you were born the Holy Spirit told me that you would not be with me long....."  :shock:  :?
Mjonmind if you think that is creepy......read this and after please start to SCREAM  /scream/ !!!!

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/02/23/whitney-houston-s-final-romance-was-ray-j-using-her-for-reality-tv.html (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/02/23/whitney-houston-s-final-romance-was-ray-j-using-her-for-reality-tv.html)

"Reality TV" should be called for what it is and that's trash TV  /woohoo/ !!!!
(http://blogs.kas.kh.edu.tw/1elizabeth0/files/2011/11/trash-can-full-of-trash.jpg)
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 24, 2012, 03:20:53 AM
diggyon: "I remember TS saying that we will get confused about certain theories!!!! Something is going on!!!!!!"

Adi: "I hope they spell her name correctly on the headstone.....if not, then my eyes will really go  afraid/ "

MjonMind: "What an opposite place for burial to Forest Lawn with it's artistic marble and celebrity resting place status. Here we have brown grass and crumbling curbs."

RK: "The death / funeral / burial was very quick in comparison to the MJ fiasco also."

gwynned: "I don't mean any disrespect because it seems clear to me we have another hoax. And, maybe it's just me, but do you all feel like things are speeding up?"
MJonMInd: "^^You make it sound like it's a piece of cake, or pie!  So I wonder who's next that needs to escape the game? Someone the media is dragging through the mud. "

RK: "This is another coincidence. Just like Elvis and Michael. Whitney had a song called Heartbreak Hotel. Dunno whether it is relevant or not, but it is another similarity. "
____________________________________________________________________________________

I so LOVED to read your thoughts^^!!! You all have great ideas!! ;)  bearhug

@MjonMind you made me laugh with that "piece of PIE"  :lol: Made me think of Front's spelling of the word: PIcturE"  :lol:


I think that if this is true, if this is all a HOAX, then the next celebrity who "escapes the game" will be another Legend! like Mariah Carey for ex., someone from the same generation...and not a young celeb like Britney or LiLo. I have this thought that in this giant hoax the young celebs are just like "hoax-helpers", they don't "die", they just leave clues, like Britney left in her videos and LiLo too.... and others... maybe I am saying a stupid thing..... I don't know... that just crossed my mind while reading your thoughts ^^


@MjonMind: that note written by Whitney's mom....I don't know what to make of it! I would have believed it if it weren't for the last paragraph with doorbells ringing over and over and the spirits and everything...that was weird!! I mean if it really occurred that to her, it's like something very private, don't you think? why would she share publicly all those things?? If that happened to me I wouldn't write it for everyone to see!
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 24, 2012, 03:33:55 AM
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@Sim...even though I haven't posted much on the 'Whitney' topic (I'm just letting it all simmer)...
I read all the posts and I really appreciate all the work you're doing.  Keep it up! With L.O.V.E. always.
Ditto :) and Blessings ;)
Ditto, Ditto :) Haven't been posting much, but reading and letting this all sink in... sigh...the Whitney pic...I pray that this is a hoax, cause if not, then there are some really sick people out there who will do ANYTHING for a buck!!  I hope that you are all well, and I send you my LOVE always! bearhug
lol Thank you!!  :lol: I loved your "DITTOS"  :lol: You're all my sisters and I love you all!!  bearhug



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http://www.mj-upbeat.com/documents/WhitneyHoustonsACTUALfuneralprogram.pdf (http://www.mj-upbeat.com/documents/WhitneyHoustonsACTUALfuneralprogram.pdf)
I just noticed that color PURPLE is there again and I also noticed that DOVES are present too on some of the pics!
We discussed about the DOVES recently!! I had posted some montages about Michael & the DOVES in "The Sign 1" -thread!! and PURPLE....well you cannot miss it, it's everywhere around the hoax.


(http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/837/image33ariv.jpg)

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Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Tink on February 24, 2012, 03:50:47 AM
 Purple looks outstanding on African-American skin coloring, btw. I had my own father buried in a dark blue, because it warmed his skin up.

Dr. Drew said to expect another celebrity death within 2 months. Andy Dick said yesterday, that he doesn't know why he's alive, except every time
he falls off the wagon, he goes directly back to Rehab! Staying Sober is his #1 Priority. They spoke about Priorities, and Dr. Drew felt that people around
Whitney were on her gravy train, and took advantage of her. She shouldn't have done the movie Sparkle, and should've done another stint in Rehab.

THIS I must agree with! For those of you who don't understand Alcoholism & Addiction, I can understand why this seems so odd to you. But Whitney is quite dead.

Her family was told Whitney died before she sank underwater, btw. You can look it up; definitely NOT a drowning. Dr. Drew said ONE Xanax with high
amounts of alcohol could've stopped her CNS from breathing - it's that simple. If you're not an addict, or haven't dealt with addicts for most of your life, you won't sympathize with this.

Whitney is truly passed; she's no longer with us. She's dead. Her ex even tried to make her funeral about him - and her daughter now needs to go into
Rehab herself, it looks like - after having to parent both parents as a child.

Please look up multiple substance addiction plus alcoholism. It's the most deadly combination out there.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: applehead250609 on February 24, 2012, 06:14:21 AM
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Purple looks outstanding on African-American skin coloring, btw. I had my own father buried in a dark blue, because it warmed his skin up.

Dr. Drew said to expect another celebrity death within 2 months  afraid/  afraid/ . Andy Dick said yesterday, that he doesn't know why he's alive, except every time
he falls off the wagon, he goes directly back to Rehab! Staying Sober is his #1 Priority. They spoke about Priorities, and Dr. Drew felt that people around
Whitney were on her gravy train, and took advantage of her. She shouldn't have done the movie Sparkle, and should've done another stint in Rehab.

THIS I must agree with! For those of you who don't understand Alcoholism & Addiction, I can understand why this seems so odd to you. But Whitney is quite dead.

Her family was told Whitney died before she sank underwater, btw. You can look it up; definitely NOT a drowning. Dr. Drew said ONE Xanax with high
amounts of alcohol could've stopped her CNS from breathing - it's that simple. If you're not an addict, you won't sympathize with this.

Whitney is truly passed; she's no longer with us. She's dead. Her ex even tried to make her funeral about him - and her daughter now needs to go into
Rehab herself, it looks like - after having to parent both parents as a child.

Please look up multiple substance addiction plus alcoholism. It's the most deadly combination out there.

Creepy prediction you made Dr.Drew  :? .Excuse but I really have to ask you this:Are you working for National Enquirer and we don't know this,or what  :idea:  :roll: ????
Once you shook hands with Michael and now all you do is talking trash about him,SHAME on you man  /woohoo/ !!!


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I don't know who is behind this stories but what I found very bizarre is that National Enquirer's predictions came true  :shock: .All 4 of the people whom they predicted wolud die,actually died  :shock:  afraid/ .

http://stiri.rol.ro/-national-enquirer-revista-care-prezice-viitorul-tragic-al-vedetelor-pe-coperta-la-inceput-de-an-=-moarte-772662.html (http://stiri.rol.ro/-national-enquirer-revista-care-prezice-viitorul-tragic-al-vedetelor-pe-coperta-la-inceput-de-an-=-moarte-772662.html)
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: LoveShyMichael on February 24, 2012, 06:23:07 AM
@Tink

I do with you 100% that Whitney is dead. I'm not going to sugar coat the word "dead". It happens its apart of life. When prescription drugs are mixed with alcohol ( if thats the case with Whitney) then yes, its a fatal combination.

I do feel her daughter Bobbi will also follow in her parents footsteps in some forms of addiction. She's been around addiction her whole life, she doesn't probably know any other way to handle those issues that came from her parents but to have learned what she learned from them on how they handled it.

Prescription drugs is most lethal ( beside alcohol being  #1 ) the cocktail of prescription drugs & the doctors who overprescribe them are just as guilty as murderers. But because they're a 'Doctor", they are immuned from the charges.

I know they have improved on some narcotics so they can't be broken down , cut down, or injected.

In my home state ( Wisconsin) we've had a large number of robberies of pharmacies looking for prescription narcostics. Sad there is soooo much addiction out there, & barely any help from the local counties & states to try to get them help without costing a chunk of downpayment just to get the addict there.

And if your already an addict, where do you think the money is going to come from? From the families that love them. Also the same families that the addict stole from, lied to, manipulated, & list goes on.........

I do know first hand on addiction............my son is a herion addict..............& he's 6 day clean of detox so he can enter a rehab facility next week.  Not only just herion but prescription drugs that he bought off the streets, because his friends have manipulated their doctors again & again & again to prescribe them.

I have NO history of any drug abuse (besides my dad being  an alcoholic) which my son, barely knew, & NO history of either my side or my xhusbands side for any other drug or alcohol addiction.

Here I have a son who's addicted to Herion, with history for it to originate from.  I've just accepted that he's an addict because of his choices, not by the history of my or xhusband's family.

Because of being a parent of an addict, whether or not its' legal or illegal drugs, NO ONE wants to bury their children like Cissy Houston did. It doesn't make it easier when you know in your heart that prescription drugs & the choices of any addict helped in that process.

Today I do have that choice to help my child so I'm not faced with what Cissy Houston was faced with. But no means I would never say she didn't try to get Whitney help, but parents sometimes (like I'm faced with today) do more harm than good when it comes to enablin.

Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: LoveShyMichael on February 24, 2012, 06:27:27 AM

Here's a letter from an addict----could be your child or mine....
This is not my son's letter, but I saw myself in this letter.

 A letter from a drug addict-your child

I’m your Qualifier

I want to introduce myself to you; I’m your qualifier and the reason you’re here. You believe just because you gave me life and raised me that you know me…but you really don’t. I’d like to use this time to introduce the real me to you so maybe you can gain a better understanding of why I am the way I am, why I do the things I do and why I’ve done some of the things I’ve done. I don’t know if I was born an addict but I do know the first time I got high and addict was born.

First of all you have to accept the fact that I think differently than you do. Some of this will make sense to you and some of this will sound like excuses that you’ve heard before, but just know that the ones that sound like excuses are based on my fact, my perspective and the knowledge and experience of the people who are trying to help me get clean. These are people I have placed my trust and faith in because all they want from me is to succeed in my endeavor to stay clean for another day. You have you own goals for me like going to college, getting a job, getting married and finally having kids so you can have grandkids and can show all of your friends their pictures. See these are your goals for me and not necessarily my goals for myself.

Let me try to explain how I see things. See, you think I have a drug problem but I don’t; I have a living problem. You think I use drugs but the reality is that the drugs use me. Drugs are for those of us that can't handle reality, and reality is for people like you that can't handle their drugs. To me Reality is a nice place to visit but I really don’t like living there. I live in constant fear of letting you down; of not living up to your expectations. I put off doing things out of fear and you call me a procrastinator, but procrastination is just a 5 syllable word for fear.
Drugs make me feel alive and normal, but they also make me paranoid, incoherent and both destructive and pathetically and relentlessly self-destructive. Then I would do unconscionable things in order to feel normal and alive again. Drugs gave me wings and then slowly took away my sky. I looked to drugs for courage and they made me a coward. You say that I had always been a sensitive, perceptive, joyful and exceptionally bright child, but on drugs I became unrecognizable. You should try looking in the mirror and not knowing the reflection looking back at you. I long for the day I am able to look in the mirror and be OK with the person I see looking back.

Like all kids, when I was really young I used to think there was a monster in my closet and under my bed and you would come into my room and reassure me that there wasn’t one by opening the closet and looking under the bed. Now that I am older you can’t convince me of that anymore and it’s not your job to. But since I found drugs I’ve come to the realization that there is a monster; but it’s not in my closet or under the bed but inside of me, and that if I can’t learn to ignore it, it will destroy me.

When I first started getting high it was pleasurable for awhile; I had finally experienced nirvana, and then the euphoria wore off and I began to see the ugly side of my using and I experienced hell. I found the higher the drugs got me the lower they brought me. After awhile I faced 2 choices, either I could suffer the pain of withdrawal or take more drugs. I did the withdrawal thing more times than you’ll ever know and it’s not pleasurable at all; in fact it’s just the opposite. If you remember there were times where I said I couldn’t go to school or work because I had the flu, but more times than not it was because I was going through withdrawal. I guess the best way to describe withdrawal is insuperable depression and acute anxiety -- a drawn-out agony. Some of the times I choose withdrawal because I didn’t want to use anymore, that I hated who I had become, but
for the most part it was because I didn’t have a choice in the matter…I had run out of drugs. You would think that after experiencing the emotional and physical pain of withdrawal that I would never let myself go through that again…right? See that’s how you see it, but to me it just became a part of my using and a consequence I was willing to pay. You may call that insanity…I call that life.

I’ve been to enough meetings to know the readings by heart and one of the phrases that jumps out at me every time I hear it, is: “when we use drugs we are slowly committing suicide”. I never thought of it that way but now I totally understand what it means…but still I use. I’m sure you remember the show Mash; it was pretty popular when you were growing up. The theme song is actually titled “suicide is painless” and in its context, I’m sure it’s true. But the slow suicide of my using is not painless in the least; I feel the pain and can see the flame of my life getting fainter every time I use.

All those times you yelled at me for my using you gave me exactly what I needed to feed my addiction. You thought you were doing it out of love but you were actually justifying to me what my mind had convinced me I was a long time ago. I look at myself as a failure; as a complete waste of space. There is a line from a song called Southern Cross and this line defines my past and it goes: “I never failed to fail because it’s the easiest thing to do”. When you yell and scream you just confirm to me that I am a failure and after awhile it becomes common place; not to mention expected. Its one thing if I think of myself as a loser or failure but to know that’s how you see me as well makes it easier for my mind to convince me to use. My basic problem is that I flee from those who want me and I pursue my rejecters.
There are a few things you can do if you really want to help me. I know by telling you these things I’m actually cutting off my main money source…you. I will never stop using as long as you keep giving me money or supporting me. I can only stop using when I hit my bottom and only I can put down the shovel and quit digging. When you bail me out, buy me a car, pay for my rent or give me money you aren’t helping me at all; you are only handing me the shovel again and telling me to keep digging. You keep letting me come back home to live because you think you’re helping me out but if your honest, you’ll realize that you are doing it for purely selfish reasons. When you know I’m in the room next door you sleep better. The last thing I’ll confess to you is the real reason I steal from you. I steal from you because I’m counting on you not calling the cops on me. I count on you not wanting me to go to jail; to have a criminal record. I steal from you because you keep letting me move back home.

You make the mistake of thinking that recovery is simply a matter of not drinking or using drugs. And you consider a relapse a sign of complete failure and long periods of abstinence a complete success. But these perceptions are too simplistic. My life is anything but simple and I’m not just talking about my using drugs. The way my mind works, nothing is as easy as just doing it because my mind tries to convince me not to do it. It doesn’t matter how simple of a task it is…even unloading the dishwasher is a mind struggle for me. My mind also loves to make every little thing that goes wrong a major crisis. Let me try to explain this in as simple terms as I possibly can. Let’s say we both go outside in the morning and our cars don’t start. You go in and call a mechanic and I go in and call suicide prevention. I’m what they call a W.C.S person; which stands for worst case scenario. They say a mind is a terrible thing to waste; well my mind is a terrible thing to listen to. Most people are about as happy as they make up their minds to be…mine won’t let me be happy. My mind
keeps reminding me that there is only 18 inches between a halo and a noose.

Relapse isn’t a requirement but it does happen to quite a few addicts. The hard truth is that if there were 50 addicts in their 1st meeting together, more of us will be dead in 5 years that will have 5 years clean. The last time I relapsed it was because the bottom fell out faster than I could lower my standards. It’s really difficult to solve a problem with the same mind that created it and God knows I’ve created a lot of problems for myself...and for you. I hope some day you will realize that I am not a bad person trying to get good; I’m a sick person trying to get well. I suffer from the disease of addiction. If you believe this you won’t be so critical of me. For a critic is just a person who goes onto the battlefield after the battle has been fought and shoots the survivors. Believe me when I say this; I don’t want to be an addict as much as you wish you weren’t a parent of one.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 24, 2012, 08:07:10 AM
Just one more thought:

- Michael said in "This is it": "we've got 4 years to make it right"
- TS said that if by the end of 2012 we have no BAM then we know he's a faker.
- Michael said "I'm fighting for all artists, not just for myself".
- Michael said "the Best is yet to come"
- We are very quickly into the month of March 2012

OK

- If Whitney & other celebs are OUT of the hoax-equation, so in case they are all dead and only Michael is alive,

then I ask myself:
1. What exactly that "Best yet to come" means? What else more spectacular can we include in it??
2. What other "Best" can happen in the 10 months left till the end of 2012?
     Other than the possibility of Whitney & other celebs to appear together with Michael ALIVE on the BAM day!?
3. Can Michael's death hoax, only by itself, be sufficient enough to punish the media and expose the Illuminati?
4. Did Michael act alone , only helped by his family and close friends? or did he engage other artists too in this Massive LOVE Revolution Project?


Think . . .
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: ilovemjforever on February 24, 2012, 08:38:33 AM
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Just one more thought:

- Michael said in "This is it": "we've got 4 years to make it right"
- TS said that if by the end of 2012 we have no BAM then we know he's a faker.
- Michael said "I'm fighting for all artists, not just for myself".
- Michael said "the Best is yet to come"
- We are very quickly into the month of March 2012

OK

- If Whitney & other celebs are OUT of the hoax-equation, so in case they are all dead and only Michael is alive,

then I ask myself:
1. What exactly that "Best yet to come" means? What else more spectacular can we include in it??
2. What other "Best" can happen in the 10 months left till the end of 2012?
     Other than the possibility of Whitney & other celebs to appear together with Michael ALIVE on the BAM day!?
3. Can Michael's death hoax, only by itself, be sufficient enough to punish the media and expose the Illuminati?
4. Did Michael act alone , only helped by his family and close friends? or did he engage other artists too in this Massive LOVE Revolution Project?


Think . . .
I just love your posts Sim,once again you make very valid points.I think you are on to something.I feel the same way,i really believe this hoax,is more than just about Michael.I believe he has big things planned,its not just about fun and games.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: hesouttamylife on February 24, 2012, 12:54:59 PM
@loveshy - I just want to thank you for posting that letter.  I will be copying it and passing it along to some people in my life who could benefit from it.  It is awesome.  It will also help me in my job working with children and families of addiction. 
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: LoveShyMichael on February 24, 2012, 02:06:48 PM
@hesoutofmylife

YOUR SO WELCOME.!! 

Yes, please that letter on. Like I said I didn't write it, but any mother/father that is affected by addiction, will see themselves in this letter. As the truth hurt me also, I also had to admit my role in this sick addiction.

IF ANYONE KNOWS SOMEONE WHO'S AFFECTED ( & IF YOUR IN HIS/HER CIRCLE) YOUR AFFECTED, PLEASE GIVE THEM TO LETTER. IT'S AN EYE OPENER OF THE LOOK INSIDE AN ADDICTS THINKING.

LOVE FIRST..........
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Grace on February 24, 2012, 02:53:14 PM
LoveShyMIchael, thank you.
I think this letter is one of the most important posts on this board.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: applehead250609 on February 24, 2012, 04:27:55 PM
Whitney Houston to be honored at Oscars  :-\ .
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Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Im_convincedmjalive on February 25, 2012, 01:04:10 AM
Quote
2 Timothy 4:3-4 KJV For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; (4) And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

I am somewhat baffled that Whitney's death is still continuing as a talk of a hoax. Just because funeral programs, coffins, flowers on coffin, etc. are similiar to MJ's and probably many other non famous people does NOT make it a hoax or part of MJ's plan. There are NO clues left by Whitney to say she hoaxed her death. MJ has left multiple clues to say he is alive.

The posts by TS giving intimate secrets of how things were done is the clincher to prove indeed MJ is alive and he is telling us his reasons for doing it. It appears to me that many of you have taken similarities in tastes and turned them into clues by your own imaginations. What proof (not similarities) will you have to show in the end you are on the right track thinking Whitney's death is a hoax? There is more proof her death was a ritual sacrifice. God Bless Whitney's soul for enduring the trauma.

MJ/TS/Front (back and S.T.U.D.Y.) have wrote to us what this hoax is all about. NWO/EOW/Spiritual warfare, and some more...

TS as The Sign wrote to us a long 1st sign of what is coming and what has been. Satan will use any and everything at his disposal to sidetrack and confuse those who are easily fooled. MJ has tried to teach us critical thinking and how to discern between real and fake over these last 2 plus years during this adventure. Why does it appear many of you have thrown that out the window? Why does it appear that this (Whitney's death) is the only focus and the AoC, knowing the real/truth from the false has been tossed to the side?

No matter what happens from Alpha to Omega there will be sidetrack stories and the real test is being able to entertain a story until you can quickly figure out if it is real or fake.

Never forget the Bigger Picture.

I am also surprised by those who think Cissy's letter to her daughter is creepy/scary. She experienced the Holy Spirit explaining to her how long she would have Whitney, the Holy Spirit visited her and rang her doorbell. I am surprised that those of you who talk of God, Jesus, and Holy Spirit now find it absolutely ludicris that Cissy's story is real.

Real Life experience of the Holy Spirit comforting me.
I was about 20 something years younger and I was heavily into prostitution. I also was snorting crank at the time because a older woman I looked up to was, so I just did it for her. On easter passover I attended church with my family and we watched the story of Jesus' crucifixtion, rest and rise up alive on the 3rd day. I was overwhelmed by guilt and I felt horrible about what I was doing. I was bowing my head in prayer with eyes closed. I was crying so hard I thought I was gonna pass out. I suddenly felt a strong hand on my shoulder. I figured it was someone near me reaching out to me because they saw me crying so hard. I did not look right away at who was touching me. I finished praying, looked up and turned around to see who it was. No one was there. No one was even close to me in the surrounding seats. I felt the Holy Spirit touch me physically.

I know/understand what Cissy is saying. I also know that Whitney is resting in Peace.

Purple is not a color only for MJ and others in his surrounding world. The color purple is for everyone who believes in what it represents. The Dove is not exclusive to MJ/Whitney. The Dove represents the Holy Spirit to those who believe this.
 
This will be my 1 and only comment here in this thread.

Peace
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 25, 2012, 04:33:26 AM
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Just one more thought:

- Michael said in "This is it": "we've got 4 years to make it right"
- TS said that if by the end of 2012 we have no BAM then we know he's a faker.
- Michael said "I'm fighting for all artists, not just for myself".
- Michael said "the Best is yet to come"
- We are very quickly into the month of March 2012

OK

- If Whitney & other celebs are OUT of the hoax-equation, so in case they are all dead and only Michael is alive,

then I ask myself:
1. What exactly that "Best yet to come" means? What else more spectacular can we include in it??
2. What other "Best" can happen in the 10 months left till the end of 2012?
     Other than the possibility of Whitney & other celebs to appear together with Michael ALIVE on the BAM day!?
3. Can Michael's death hoax, only by itself, be sufficient enough to punish the media and expose the Illuminati?
4. Did Michael act alone, only helped by his family and close friends?
    or did he engage other artists too in this Massive LOVE Revolution Project?


Think . . .
I just love your posts Sim,once again you make very valid points.
I think you are on to something. I feel the same way,i really believe this hoax, is more than just about Michael.
I believe he has big things planned, its not just about fun and games.
Thank you! I appreciate your comment! I feel and I think the same way too!

The Impossible IS Possible! ;)

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Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 25, 2012, 04:49:46 AM
So True? So False?
Did Jermaine Jackson Just Write and Release
a Whitney Houston Tribute Song?

Thu., Feb. 23, 2012 3:00 PM

Read more: http://uk.eonline.com/news/true_false_did_jermaine_jackson_just/296348#ixzz1nOBBNMtK


There's no shortage of heartfelt tributes to Whitney Houston following her shocking
death two weeks ago, with celebs remembering the pop icon in prose, in song and on stage.

One star who reportedly paid homage to Houston? Jermaine Jackson.
News surfaced last week that Michael Jackson's older brother released a song
dedicated exclusively to her, titled "The First Time You Love."

The two were good friends—ET even has this video of the duo singing a duet back in 1984.
A musical tribute from Jackson would certainly be poetic, if only it wasn't…

So false!
Although a press release went out last week announcing that Jackson was dedicating
"The First Time You Love" to the late pop star (and that the song was available
on iTunes), he claims it was sent without his knowledge.

Jackson released this statement today to set the record straight:

"I would like to make clear that no such song was ever approved by me.
Further, I have not, and will not, receive any monies for it…
This song was recorded more than three years ago. No one informed me, and nor
did I sign any permissions, for it ever to be commercially released.
After making strong reservations to those responsible, I have today been assured
that the process has started to remove this song from iTunes."


Guess we'll just have to make do for now with that video of them.


Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SaffaGirl on February 25, 2012, 05:51:51 AM
Whitney's death I cannot put my finger to it, something is bothering me about this, what it is I don't know. I keep telling my friends there is a piece missing to this entire puzzle. Her song "I Will Always Love You" has this line "bitter sweet memories that is all I am taking with me"
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: use_your_illusion on February 25, 2012, 06:01:23 AM
MJ's hoax is bigger then we think...I mean before it wasn't thought of as that complex, some thought he was in danger, others thought it was to expose the drugs/prescriptions companies and maybe it's both and more...Whitney is either dead or alive...but we all can have an opinion...and just because some of us are leaning towards the hoax doesn't mean we should stop talking about it, or some of us think she just died or was murdered, we are entitled to keep talking about it. It's good to discuss things and get opinions, things need to be analysed...Detectives can't go to a crime scene and just conclude how, who and why it happened, they need to have evidence and if there isn't enough, then the case remains open (of course this doesn't always happen)...people trying to tell us what to say and what not to say just isnt the way to go, if that happened with everything where would we be.

First  it was said that it was disrespecful to say that 9/11 was in inside job, but look, it most likely is, but we have no definite answer. We discuss, let things simmer and I'm sure before the end of this year is out our questions will be answered...remember what  Jermaine Jackson said about the CM trial 'This is bigger then Murray', just like this hoax 'Is bigger then MJ'...we really don't know anything about Whitney Houston or Peter Lopez etc. but soon we hopefully will. No one on here wants to purposefully disprespect the Houston family we are here for truth and to sift out the worlds biggest lies/concealments and show it to the people...it's bigger then you, me and us.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 25, 2012, 06:37:47 AM
@use_your_illusion: God bless you! (http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Amour/3d-Amoureux2.gif)
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Dontwalkaway on February 25, 2012, 08:20:44 AM
I agree with you also Use_Your_Illusion.  The only way we can find the TRUTH is to keep an open mind, and keep searching,looking, questioning,talking and sharing.  It's just like Prince said "You just never know, you never know".

If we're thinking BIG CHANGES for the world, than this hoax is probably HUGE !!!!!!  It took 20 + years to plan it.


 bearhug 





Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: gwynned on February 25, 2012, 09:27:47 AM
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Here's another thought.  One thing the Illuminati would always do is provide some kind of distraction just ahead of their evil deed, like Michael playing Central Park on September 10, 2001.  IF Michael is playing the game for OUR side, what GOOD deeds are going unnoticed just after Whitney's 'death? 

Has anyone noticed the large number of recent high profile resignations in the banking and political arenas?  $6 Trillion in allegedly fake bonds were uncovered in Italy as part of an 'international sting operation' involving 'money laundering.' 

I can't help feel the presence of Mr. V wielding the sword of his pen with impecability.
Hmm,interesting. /bravo/

Just this morning, I received an email from a friend forwarding a lengthy list of recent banking resignations, much too lengthy to post here.

http://www.time4thetruth.info/2012/02/world-bankers-resigning-run-to-hills.html

All the while people are focusing on poor dear Whitney!  It must be awfully humiliating for them to see their own dirty tricks being used against them!  Pure genius!  Even as they watch these events, they know the worst is yet to come when the Truth is finally revealed for all to see. 
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 25, 2012, 09:43:46 AM
YESSS @gwynned !!


Whitney Houston Funeral Home Denies Leaking Casket Photo

http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/25/whitney-houston-casket-dead-photo/#.T0j_wXlWp3A

The funeral home where Whitney Houston's body was kept last week is denying that it played any role in leaking a photo of the pop legend inside her casket.
Carolyn Whigham, owner of the Whigham Funeral Home in Newark, NJ, tells the Daily News she is devastated that the photo is out there and says her staff had nothing to do with it.

She tells the paper, "We did not take that photo. We did not sell the photo. We would never do something like that."
Whigham says she has received numerous threats since the publication of the photo, but that Whitney's family has told her they do not blame the funeral home.

FYI -- eight days ago, someone shopped that pic to TMZ ... we passed.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SaffaGirl on February 25, 2012, 09:50:53 AM
use_your_illusion  /bravo/ /bravo/
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 25, 2012, 10:45:46 AM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkRwWdXCNUA&feature=channel_video_title[/youtube]
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 25, 2012, 12:14:41 PM
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Whitney Houston Family 'Disgusted' by Casket Photo

http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/25/whitney-houston-casket-photo-dead/#.T0kiq3lWp3A

Whitney Houston's family had "their heart broken all over again" this week when they saw a photo of Whitney laying in her casket published on the cover of a magazine ... TMZ has learned.
Sources close to the family tell TMZ the family is disgusted the photo was printed and they have no idea how security surrounding the casket was breached. We're told the family could tell from the photo that it was taken from inside the funeral home, but they have no idea who would have snapped the pic.

Our sources say Whitney's mother, Cissy, has taken the publication of the photo the hardest.
Despite their disgust and outrage, we're told the family will not investigate the matter further. 
The owner of the funeral home has denied any wrongdoing on the part of her or her staff.


^^ This piece of "family-news" is in contradiction with this other piece of "family-news": I mean one day the family SELLS private funeral footage and then the next day the family is disgusted because a private funeral pic was shown in the media?
That just doesn't make sense at all! does it?? smiley_spider  


Whitney Houston Family Sells Funeral Footage To "Benefit Bobbi Kristina"

http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/20/whitney-houston-funeral-family-sells-footage/#.T0kkCXlWp3A

Whitney Houston's "home going" ceremony has turned into a money maker for her Estate -- which very quietly struck a deal to sell the video of the funeral.
Here's how it went down ... Associated Press provided a live pool feed of the funeral to media outlets around the world (including TMZ) on Saturday -- but everyone had to pull the footage 24 hours later. Why?

A rep for the family confirms the family has now "agreed to license footage to several media outlets." The rep says the family is charging "customary fees" to ... "help maximize the estate for the benefit of Bobbi Kristina."
For the record ... TMZ is not one of the chosen ones.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: gwynned on February 25, 2012, 01:16:57 PM
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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkRwWdXCNUA&feature=channel_video_title[/youtube]

Interesting about the color blue.  Cirque will be appearing for the first time at the Academy.  Note the photo of the man holding an umbrella in a royal blue suit.  Coincidence? 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/17/cirque-du-soleil-oscars-performance_n_1284227.html
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: gwynned on February 25, 2012, 01:20:15 PM
Quick add from my post above and from the original article. 

  "They (The viewers) should be very attentive," she said. "You don't want to be blinking too much because you might miss something."

Indeed!!!!
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: blankie on February 25, 2012, 03:12:12 PM
 :)  Use your illusion...  AGREEE !!!  bearhug   moonwalk_/
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: ilovemjforever on February 25, 2012, 03:18:12 PM
So many wonderful posts here /bravo/.This is what needs to happen.I am so happy that we are looking deeper,we are really the Army of Love,and that's what matters most.I said it once and i will say it again Michael s hoax was meant to happen for so many reasons.You don't plan something like this unless,it has a really big positive effect on humanity.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: ilovemjforever on February 25, 2012, 03:33:18 PM
http://cdn.mediatakeout.com/54438/oh-no-he-didn-t-now-we-know-why-they-ain-t-let-jaheim-into-whitney-houston-s-funeral-look-how-he-was-dressed.html                                                                                                                                                                                                      this is Jaheim,a rnb singer from New Jersey,that was not allowed inside to Whitneys funereal because of how he was dressed.He was also very outspoken about her death,check his twitter account.Things that make u go,hmm.Purple again.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 25, 2012, 03:53:11 PM
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http://cdn.mediatakeout.com/54438/oh-no-he-didn-t-now-we-know-why-they-ain-t-let-jaheim-into-whitney-houston-s-funeral-look-how-he-was-dressed.html                                                                                                                                                                                                      this is Jaheim,a rnb singer from New Jersey,that was not allowed inside to Whitneys funereal because of how he was dressed.He was also very outspoken about her death,check his twitter account.Things that make u go,hmm.Purple again.
LMFAO  :lol: :lol: :lol:That made me laugh like crazy!! thanks for that link dear! made my day!  :lol:
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 25, 2012, 03:57:04 PM
^^ This should make it clear alright that PURPLE is not a coincidence! it's just a HOAX-color!
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: ilovemjforever on February 25, 2012, 04:20:07 PM
 I agree SIM,sweety,this is not a coincidence.Jaheim is so anti Illuminati.He has ties with Whitney's family.Intersesting. OMG!
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: paula-c on February 25, 2012, 05:40:48 PM
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2 Timothy 4:3-4 KJV For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; (4) And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

I am somewhat baffled that Whitney's death is still continuing as a talk of a hoax. Just because funeral programs, coffins, flowers on coffin, etc. are similiar to MJ's and probably many other non famous people does NOT make it a hoax or part of MJ's plan. There are NO clues left by Whitney to say she hoaxed her death. MJ has left multiple clues to say he is alive.

The posts by TS giving intimate secrets of how things were done is the clincher to prove indeed MJ is alive and he is telling us his reasons for doing it. It appears to me that many of you have taken similarities in tastes and turned them into clues by your own imaginations. What proof (not similarities) will you have to show in the end you are on the right track thinking Whitney's death is a hoax? There is more proof her death was a ritual sacrifice. God Bless Whitney's soul for enduring the trauma.

MJ/TS/Front (back and S.T.U.D.Y.) have wrote to us what this hoax is all about. NWO/EOW/Spiritual warfare, and some more...

TS as The Sign wrote to us a long 1st sign of what is coming and what has been. Satan will use any and everything at his disposal to sidetrack and confuse those who are easily fooled. MJ has tried to teach us critical thinking and how to discern between real and fake over these last 2 plus years during this adventure. Why does it appear many of you have thrown that out the window? Why does it appear that this (Whitney's death) is the only focus and the AoC, knowing the real/truth from the false has been tossed to the side?

No matter what happens from Alpha to Omega there will be sidetrack stories and the real test is being able to entertain a story until you can quickly figure out if it is real or fake.

Never forget the Bigger Picture.

I am also surprised by those who think Cissy's letter to her daughter is creepy/scary. She experienced the Holy Spirit explaining to her how long she would have Whitney, the Holy Spirit visited her and rang her doorbell. I am surprised that those of you who talk of God, Jesus, and Holy Spirit now find it absolutely ludicris that Cissy's story is real.

Real Life experience of the Holy Spirit comforting me.
I was about 20 something years younger and I was heavily into prostitution. I also was snorting crank at the time because a older woman I looked up to was, so I just did it for her. On easter passover I attended church with my family and we watched the story of Jesus' crucifixtion, rest and rise up alive on the 3rd day. I was overwhelmed by guilt and I felt horrible about what I was doing. I was bowing my head in prayer with eyes closed. I was crying so hard I thought I was gonna pass out. I suddenly felt a strong hand on my shoulder. I figured it was someone near me reaching out to me because they saw me crying so hard. I did not look right away at who was touching me. I finished praying, looked up and turned around to see who it was. No one was there. No one was even close to me in the surrounding seats. I felt the Holy Spirit touch me physically.

I know/understand what Cissy is saying. I also know that Whitney is resting in Peace.

Purple is not a color only for MJ and others in his surrounding world. The color purple is for everyone who believes in what it represents. The Dove is not exclusive to MJ/Whitney. The Dove represents the Holy Spirit to those who believe this.
 
This will be my 1 and only comment here in this thread.

Peace




I agree with you, my post in this thread not  have been to bring the contrary to those who think that Whitney is alive, so far i have not seen anything i stated otherwise and God knows that i would be delighted if she were alive. Very emotive its experience with the Holy Spirit
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: MJonmind on February 26, 2012, 05:39:23 AM
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MJ's hoax is bigger then we think...I mean before it wasn't thought of as that complex, some thought he was in danger, others thought it was to expose the drugs/prescriptions companies and maybe it's both and more...Whitney is either dead or alive...but we all can have an opinion...and just because some of us are leaning towards the hoax doesn't mean we should stop talking about it, or some of us think she just died or was murdered, we are entitled to keep talking about it. It's good to discuss things and get opinions, things need to be analysed...Detectives can't go to a crime scene and just conclude how, who and why it happened, they need to have evidence and if there isn't enough, then the case remains open (of course this doesn't always happen)...people trying to tell us what to say and what not to say just isnt the way to go, if that happened with everything where would we be.

First  it was said that it was disrespecful to say that 9/11 was in inside job, but look, it most likely is, but we have no definite answer. We discuss, let things simmer and I'm sure before the end of this year is out our questions will be answered...remember what  Jermaine Jackson said about the CM trial 'This is bigger then Murray', just like this hoax 'Is bigger then MJ'...we really don't know anything about Whitney Houston or Peter Lopez etc. but soon we hopefully will. No one on here wants to purposefully disprespect the Houston family we are here for truth and to sift out the worlds biggest lies/concealments and show it to the people...it's bigger then you, me and us.
/bravo/   Amen!




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I've seen quite a few of my loved ones and people I knew-- dead, and let me tell you, they don't look like when they were alive. They don't look like they're sleeping--their eyes look different, their mouth etc. They look like nobody's home, plastic-y skin. Whitney just looks like she has her eyes shut for a second. My opinion is photoshop, same with the funeral home pic.
And for the family to agree that it is actually a true pic of her in the coffin, says a LOT to me. It means they're behind it too, because they would know the truth, at least the the close ones who would have gone to the funeral home. All the rest of the people just assume they know everything, but they don't--illusions.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: RK on February 26, 2012, 08:21:18 AM
Whitney's tribute to Mike in my home town. There was a lot of bad press about this show. I didn't realize that she had two of the dancers from This Is It with her.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vk5vu90hZ98&feature=related[/youtube]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vk5vu90hZ98&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vk5vu90hZ98&feature=related)
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Dontwalkaway on February 26, 2012, 12:44:47 PM
Thanks RK for the video.    Whitney had a tribute to Michael with some of the dancers from This Is It.    She also wore a purple dress in the coffin/casket.   Purple is the color of the hoax.   

I can't say I know anything for sure, because I definitely do not BUT,  the coincidences and oddities are adding up.  Also, I just went to Rite Aid, a drug store near me.  There were stacks of Whitney Houston CD's for sale.  They sure got those out fast.

I'm going to keep watching. 

Love You All 

 
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 26, 2012, 01:21:15 PM
 :) :) :)

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source: http://blindgossip.com/?p=39738#comments
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: ilovemjforever on February 26, 2012, 07:17:17 PM
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:) :) :)

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source: http://blindgossip.com/?p=39738#comments
Interesting,purple again,and they look so happy.Hmmm. fresse/
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 26, 2012, 07:26:58 PM
Oups sorry I think you misunderstood my montage, @ilovemjforever
That's a photo of Janet and Lisa from 1997 and i think their dresses are blue.
I added that photo next to the article, because the article doesn't mention their names!

I think this article is written on purpose like that...it's like a guessing-game!
So I placed that photo to show who they are hinting at in that article!

I wonder who would write such an article? about "2 celebs with famous family names"?
Why didn't they give their family names?
 If they weren't allowed to say their names, why would they even bother to write the article
 in 1st place? and with such a clear description, you couldn't miss them!!
"One is a POP Diva and the other is her former sister-in-law"?
Come on WHO is playing games with us? who really wrote this article? lolll
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: use_your_illusion on February 26, 2012, 11:54:28 PM
@Sim, it is 100% them, oh I mean simoogle is what I'm calling you from now on...lol

It rings bells in my head, 'sister in law', 'pop diva', 'famous last names' and 'singers'...the only people with famous last names in singing, off the top of my head are Presley and Jackson since the whole family is in the entertainment industry, plus MJ knew WH...

@MJonmind what you said, great pick up, I never thought of that before, it does look photo-shopped and the fact that the family aren't say that is interesting....'things that make you go mmmm'.

@Dontwalkaway is rite aid is the place that sells pint ice-cream right?...I love that place, first time I was in the states the first place I ever went was there.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 27, 2012, 11:29:59 AM
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@Sim, it is 100% them, oh I mean simoogle is what I'm calling you from now on...lol
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:lol: :lol: :lol: LMAO SIMOOGLE ? so funny!!
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: katy (MJFAN7) on February 27, 2012, 01:57:15 PM
Hmm, if it was them I find it interesting that the two are together. I know LMP has to be with MJ and in on the hoax... she delivered the sunflowers with a letter "from herself" but it was MJ's handwriting and the most obvious... she's Elvis' daughter.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Dontwalkaway on February 27, 2012, 03:57:37 PM
Use_Your_Illusion

Yes, Rite Aid has some ice cream in pints.  It is really a drug store/pharmacy and a convenient store with some food, house hold items, grocieries, some music, movies, magazines, toys, cigarettes,candy,cosmetics.  They had a stack of Whitney Houston CD's there a few days ago when I went in.   
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 27, 2012, 05:27:36 PM
Whitney's Final Movie Preemptive Strike to Prevent Leak

http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/27/whitney-houston-sparkle-movie/#.T0wPYnlWp3A

Whitney Houston's final movie is on lockdown ... over fears that people will leak Whitney's scenes and music ... TMZ has learned.
Sources connected to the production tell us ... the people working on "Sparkle" -- starring Whitney and Jordin Sparks -- are working "around the clock" to finish post-production work on the movie as quickly as possible.

We're told the building where the film is being edited is also under tight watch -- with ramped up security in the hopes of preemptively clogging a leak.
So far, no comment from Sony.
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 afraid/ Read the article below: again! so many connections and direct references to Michael! even to the movie JOKER with Heath Ledger! lmao :lol: bounce/

Houston Legacy To Continue In Final Film, Song

http://www.toofab.com/2012/02/15/houston-legacy-to-continue-in-final-film-song/

LOS ANGELES (AP) — For Bishop T.D. Jakes, watching Whitney Houston sing a classic gospel hymn two months ago made him sure the long-struggling singer was poised for a comeback.

Instead, her soulful rendition of "His Eye is on the Sparrow" will be the last chance for audiences to see Houston perform new music. Her performance was filmed for a scene in the upcoming movie "Sparkle," in which Houston stars as the mother of a family of girls who form a singing group and struggle with fame and addiction.

Houston's death on Saturday in the bathroom of her room at the Beverly Hilton Hotel thwarted any chance for the singer to rebound from years of damage to her voice and reputation caused by drug abuse and erratic behavior.

The footage of Houston singing is nowhere near as voluminous as the rehearsal videos left behind by Michael Jackson that were crafted into the film "This Is It." Yet "Sparkle" represents a similar opportunity for audiences — the chance to see a once-gifted but since-tarnished artist perform one last time.

Jackson's film, released four months after his death, earned more than $250 million worldwide; the success of "Sparkle," scheduled for release on Aug. 17, remains to be seen. But Jakes predicted audiences would be moved by Houston's singing of the "Sparrow" gospel classic and another song recorded for the film.

"She delivered it with such conviction that it was a very touching moment in the filming of the movie," recalled Jakes, a Texas minister who helped produce the film. "She just left such a deep impression on everybody."
Houston's performance, filmed in Detroit, brought tears to the eyes of those on the "Sparkle" set, Jakes said.
The film's executive producer, Howard Rosenman, said the film will show audiences a "Whitney that people have never seen, Whitney that people have never heard."
By the time of her death, Houston was far removed from her defining film role in 1992's "The Bodyguard," which not only became a blockbuster, but also broke down cultural barriers and produced an award-winning soundtrack anchored by the singer's vocals.

Posthumous releases are nothing new to modern audiences, who watched Heath Ledger's Oscar-winning turn as the Joker in "The Dark Knight" in the summer of 2008, months after his accidental overdose death. A day after Houston's death, Amy Winehouse's parents accepted a Grammy Award for her duet with Tony Bennett, "Body and Soul," which appeared on the crooner's best-selling album "Duets II."

The cache of rehearsal footage for his comeback concerts that Jackson left behind when he died in June 2009 helped his estate dig out of debt and showed the world the first images of Jackson performing that it had seen in years. Concert promoter AEG Live released 30-seconds of footage a week after the singer's death and the hundreds of hours of video were crafted into "This Is It," which not only demonstrated the King of Pop's showmanship, but also aided prosecutors who secured an involuntary manslaughter conviction against the singer's personal physician.
Clips from the film were played for jurors during last year's trial of Dr. Conrad Murray, and even a defense attorney had to admit after watching unreleased footage that it didn't show the singer was impaired as Murray's team had hoped it would.

Sony Pictures Entertainment, which will distribute "Sparkle," declined to comment for this story or say whether it planned to release any footage of Houston's singing before the film's release.

The movie is a remake of a 1976 film written by Joel Schumaker and Rosenman, who said it became a cult favorite in the African-American community because of its complex characters during an era when so-called "blaxploitation" films focused on caricatures. The upcoming version co-stars Jordin Sparks, who rose to fame after appearing on "American Idol."

Sparks has not commented on Houston's death or her work with the singer on the film.
Jakes said Houston's role in the film mirrors her own life and struggles. Houston was professional and courteous during filming, he said.
"I think the coming production will in many ways memorialize the depth of who she is," Jakes said.

By the time the film and soundtrack are released, some of the questions surrounding Houston's demise should be answered. Although investigators found some prescription medications in Houston's hotel room, officials are awaiting the results of toxicology tests before determining her cause of death.

Jakes said although he wasn't on set every day, he never saw Houston act unprofessionally.
"I certainly got the feeling she was trying to reposition her life and move forward with more focus and commitment to her faith," he said.
Although famous for her love songs, Houston began singing in church in New Jersey, where her mother, Grammy-winning gospel singer Cissy Houston, led a choir for many years.

Whitney Houston apparently felt comfortable returning to those roots in recent months. In addition to her work in "Sparkle," she sang "Yes, Jesus Loves Me" for an audience in Hollywood two days before her death. It was her final performance.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 27, 2012, 05:41:05 PM
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 afraid/ Read the article below: again! so many connections and direct references to Michael! even to the movie JOKER with Heath Ledger! lmao :lol: bounce/

Houston Legacy To Continue In Final Film, Song

http://www.toofab.com/2012/02/15/houston-legacy-to-continue-in-final-film-song/

[...]
Posthumous releases are nothing new to modern audiences, who watched Heath Ledger's Oscar-winning turn as the Joker in "The Dark Knight" in the summer of 2008, months after his accidental overdose death. [...]

JOKER(s)  ;) :lol:

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Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Adi on February 27, 2012, 05:44:00 PM
17th August ....1 day after Elvis's "death"
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 27, 2012, 05:48:24 PM
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17th August ....1 day after Elvis's "death"
YEP !!! ;)

And 1+7 = 8 !!

And August 17th, 2012 : 1+7+8+2+1+2 = 21 [ 7 7 7 ]
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: RK on February 27, 2012, 08:22:34 PM
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I was reading the Chris Brown wants Paris in his Video thread when the girls hats caught my eye. Same egyptian sarcophagus on them. I can't get past this sarcophagus outside the funeral parlour.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: wishingstar on February 27, 2012, 08:46:16 PM
Hey RK.....

Yes, this sarcophagus thing is just odd....did that really, truly get put there? I noticed from the picture you posted, we see HollywoodTV splashed across it.  They are the ones that shot/released the infamous backing out ambulance at Carolwood.....different logo back then. 
Is it really "Hollywood" TV....land of extreme fairytales and made-up stories? Or does Hollywood TV have any reputation of truth? 
Who knows.....LOL.  Yes, this Egyptian theme is interesting to say the least! Thanks for the great pictures!!

Blessings Always
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: MJonmind on February 28, 2012, 05:12:57 AM
Good catch on their caps!


And maybe it links to the Egyptian mask/bust beside Madonna's throne.


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Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: ilovemjforever on February 28, 2012, 09:15:59 AM
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Good catch on their caps!


And maybe it links to the Egyptian mask/bust beside Madonna's throne.


(http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/001/883/902/138322733_display_image.jpg?1328490901)
That is very creepy.I am curious about whats behind all these Egyptian themes.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: gwynned on February 28, 2012, 11:01:42 AM
Lots in this video unrelated to Whitney, but one thing that struck me.  Lady GaGa in the bathtub!  Coincidence?  Why are all these 'secret' ceremonies going public in such a big way?  At the Grammy's, the Superbowl, etc.  Is someone trying to expose them?   :lol:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IP61Wz5GxQ
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: ilovemjforever on February 28, 2012, 03:35:43 PM
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Lots in this video unrelated to Whitney, but one thing that struck me.  Lady GaGa in the bathtub!  Coincidence?  Why are all these 'secret' ceremonies going public in such a big way?  At the Grammy's, the Superbowl, etc.  Is someone trying to expose them?   :lol:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IP61Wz5GxQ
Its either someone is trying to expose them,or the 2012 prophecy has some truth to it,or a combanation of both.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 28, 2012, 04:21:49 PM
@gwynned & @MJonMind (http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Surpris/machoire2.gif) Great observations!!  /bravo/
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Tink on February 28, 2012, 04:25:45 PM
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Thanks RK for the video.    Whitney had a tribute to Michael with some of the dancers from This Is It.    She also wore a purple dress in the coffin/casket.   Purple is the color of the hoax.   

I can't say I know anything for sure, because I definitely do not BUT,  the coincidences and oddities are adding up.  Also, I just went to Rite Aid, a drug store near me.  There were stacks of Whitney Houston CD's for sale.  They sure got those out fast.

I'm going to keep watching. 

Love You All 

 

What is the significance of the color purple to anything? I don't see it. I see black & white prevailing.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 28, 2012, 04:59:22 PM
I received a similar question on page no. 5 of this thread and I gave my opinion, my reasons why this color is used for the hoax...as a clue, alongside other colors like red & blue, yellow & orange! also GREEN!

It's a whole RAINBOW of color clues left by Michael himself before June 2009 and also by all the members of his family and other persons involved...

ALso I very much doubt that the release date of the Prince's album "PURPLE Rain" on June 25th, 1984, the exact same date as Michael's alleged death-date,   is just a coincidence!


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By ALL MEANS....no disrespect.... But this link is exactly what I'm talking about in reference towards the media and their slander. :

http://hellobeautiful.com/gossip-news/sweet-sweetback/is-whitney-houston-trying-to-kill-herself/?omcamp=EMC-CVNL

I believe they are the most SHADY and evil....liars!
I just look at the date and it's a day before her death! Wow...

OMGGGG!!!! Did you see the pic below the article??? Whitney with PRINCE ??? OMG!! and did you see all that PURPLE color over that site !?? and Prince's PURPLE outfit? We're definitely looking at a HOAX!!!

(http://img571.imageshack.us/img571/7735/whitneyandprince.jpg)

@alfarle : you're amazing! thanks again for this info!!
You're welcome:) And I noticed it but at first didn't pay it much mind.

Pls forgive me but I kinda forgot what purple symbolized....lol

Color PURPLE is a HUUUGE clue in whatever this is!! Whether it's Michael's plan or the Illuminati's sick and occult death rituals!

First of all:
Prince's most popular song/album -  "Purple Rain" - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5l75skRMlXk
was released on June 25th 1984 - coincidence?? Don't think so!! Also the numerology of this date is: 2+5+6+1+9+84 = 35 ; 3+5 = 8 

According to Billboard magazine, the album^^ spent 24 [888]consecutive weeks at #1 on the Billboard album charts (August 4, 1984 to January 18, 1985) becoming one of the top soundtracks ever.
Purple Rain The Soundtrack was released along with the feature Film by the same name. The Movie “Purple Rain” with the Budget of $7 million grossed well over US$80 million at the box office and became a cult classic. - http://bombaystreets.com/archives/892

There are many other PURPLE connections that I discussed about on this thread:
http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/smf2.0/index.php?topic=22103.0
and on my FB page: https://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=217737221616636
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 28, 2012, 05:29:53 PM
COLOR PURPLE

only coincidences??




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Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 28, 2012, 06:20:47 PM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0APA81PzEbE[/youtube]

Besides RED & BLUE, color PURPLE is also a major clue in the hoax!
- Lisa's dress in Oprah interview is purple;
- Oprah's dress in her last farewell shows was purple! She had also worn a purple dress in her interview with Whitney in 2009;
-  The O2 arena's official site is purple!
- Elvis had a purple stage jumpsuit; James Brown had one too;
- Both James Brown & Whitney had purple outfits in their coffins;
- Michael had purple flowers (amongst others) both at the memorial and the funeral
- Oprah's official site uses a lot of purple,
- Michael used a lot of purple light in his shows too, especially in This Is It, where he even wears a purple shirt at a certain point...

- Purple, symbolizes monarchy, spiritual awakening and also is the color of those indigo sheets of paper that can copy-imprint what you write on a white sheet of paper onto another one , if you place the indigo paper in between!
- So purple/indigo is about copy! What did Michael do? he copied Elvis' death hoax as Lisa said "play by play by play..." and then think about O2 arena, like in 2 indigo "deaths"? ;)

*** Oprah talks about The Secret, the color PURPLE (hoax color!), about the movie "Color Purple" she starred in back in the '84, directed by Spielberg, the soundtrack composed by Quincy Jones !!! and she just "happens" to mention MJ and "Thriller album" at the minute 02:36 ;) 

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0wYxh-akZs&feature=related[/youtube]
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 29, 2012, 11:12:40 AM
Michael Hoax Trials and Tribulations 92 - Drugs, The Music Industry & Whitney Houston IV

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IP61Wz5GxQ&feature=share[/youtube]


Michael Jackson Hoax Trials and Tribulations 93 - Drugs, Music Industry & Whitney Houston (V)

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kBuwHkcLyA&feature=g-all-u&context=G23762e6FAAAAAAAAAAA[/youtube]
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: BeTheChange on February 29, 2012, 12:59:04 PM
I skimmed the thread to see if this had been posted, but didn't see it.  If it was posted and already discussed, I apologize for being late to the party lol.  It's a commercial that was aired during the Superbowl and it supposedly only aired in the US.  I don't know if it supports a hoax or a planned murder...or if it's just another wacky coincidence (how many of those are we at???).  But given the timing of it and the timing of Whitney's death...IMO it supports the fact that there's some weird shit going on.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rZs8ZKTsp0[/youtube]

Here's a couple interesting comments about it on http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1782581/pg12 (http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1782581/pg12):

Quote
Note the checkered floors and the royal court. Also note at exactly 11 seconds, a Whitney Houston Look-a-like with butterflies (symbol of metamorphosis/change) in her hair and her surprised look when the king decides to sacrifice an entertainer to the dungeon. Then, a Mariah Look-a-like belts out Aretha Franklin's "Respect". Interesting...huh?

Quote
Also note in the commercial that the Whitney Houston Look-a-like is wearing purple. Wasn't Whitney buried in purple?

 WTF??

With L.O.V.E. always.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: gwynned on February 29, 2012, 01:39:31 PM
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I skimmed the thread to see if this had been posted, but didn't see it.  If it was posted and already discussed, I apologize for being late to the party lol.  It's a commercial that was aired during the Superbowl and it supposedly only aired in the US.  I don't know if it supports a hoax or a planned murder...or if it's just another wacky coincidence (how many of those are we at???).  But given the timing of it and the timing of Whitney's death...IMO it supports the fact that there's some weird shit going on.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rZs8ZKTsp0[/youtube]

Here's a couple interesting comments about it on http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1782581/pg12 (http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1782581/pg12):

Quote
Note the checkered floors and the royal court. Also note at exactly 11 seconds, a Whitney Houston Look-a-like with butterflies (symbol of metamorphosis/change) in her hair and her surprised look when the king decides to sacrifice an entertainer to the dungeon. Then, a Mariah Look-a-like belts out Aretha Franklin's "Respect". Interesting...huh?

Quote
Also note in the commercial that the Whitney Houston Look-a-like is wearing purple. Wasn't Whitney buried in purple?

 WTF??

With L.O.V.E. always.


Great catch!  I believe Elton is a 'Sir' so it makes some sense that he'd be going down!  If you're theory is correct, the people win in the end.  Pepsi for all!!! 

 I in no way think this was a ritual murder, just clever script writing on Michael's part.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 29, 2012, 03:10:58 PM
@BeTheChange: thanks for adding some more weird stuff to the List!
I saw that commercial before (not on this thread) and it reminded me so much of Michael's video "Remember the Time".
The parallels to Whitney are indeed weird! and it makes one wonder who's the "brain" behind this commercial.
It's either Michael, so this ad is made intended as a "trailer" for Whitney's death hoax that followed...
OR it's the dark forces that are behind this commercial and of course Whitney's murder.
Because at this point, with all these Weird facts surrounding her death, I can only look at it as a death hoax OR as a murder!
It most certainly doesn't look like a "natural /non-foul play death".


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[...]
 WTF??

With L.O.V.E. always.
^^ this made me laugh so hard! WTF With LOVE always.  :lol: :lol: :lol:

LOVE you @BTC  bearhug
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on February 29, 2012, 04:54:03 PM
lolll  :) I love Whitney! clever girl!! ;)

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOlQH_q0yeE&feature=g-u-u&context=G2a3dc5dFUAAAAAAAAAA[/youtube]
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on March 01, 2012, 12:15:31 PM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVFb2PZg7M8[/youtube]
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on March 01, 2012, 01:02:09 PM
Whitney Houston Card Kinda Funny, Really Funny ... Or Just TOO Soon?

http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/29/whitney-houston-target-greeting-card-video-tmz-on-tv/#.T0_Fn3lWp3A

That Whitney Houston themed greeting card's been yanked, but we gotta ask -- was it really too soon? If so ... we have a few other less timely but equally funny celebrity card ideas.



LMAO  :) This looks like a circus more and more!  :lol: :lol:

VIDEO -----)) http://www.tmz.com/videos/0_211m9kr4



Whitney Houston Target YANKS Offensive Greeting Card

http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/29/whitney-houston-greeting-card-target/#.T0_MCnlWp3A

It's still too soon to make Whitney Houston jokes -- at least according to the people at Target, who have decided to pull a greeting card from their shelves that mocks the late singing legend.

The card -- available long before Whitney died -- pokes fun at the singer's downward spiral in recent years ... "Next time you think of dating the bad boy, consider Whitney Houston."

The card was kinda funny before she died -- but now that Whitney's gone, Target has decided it's a tad too offensive ... at least for now ... and is currently in the process of yanking it from its stores.

A rep for the store tells TMZ, "The card was in our stores prior to Ms. Houston’s death. As soon as this was brought to our attention, we began the process of removing the card from all applicable stores."
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on March 01, 2012, 01:46:25 PM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sQ9HsPfsag[/youtube]
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: hesouttamylife on March 01, 2012, 01:46:54 PM
I’ve seen this commercial and when I first saw it all I could say was “wow”  :shock:
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: gwynned on March 02, 2012, 01:01:10 AM
@SimPattyK 



LMAO  :) This looks like a circus more and more!  :lol: :lol:

VIDEO -----)) http://www.tmz.com/videos/0_211m9kr4


That was a very interesting segment.  I was surprised to see Harvey so cavalier about Whitney leading me to think he knows she's alive and is just playing his part.  Strange that last card.  Seems like someone is making a statement.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: MJonmind on March 02, 2012, 01:46:03 AM
I thought Adi's post about the card in TMZ should be posted here also.


Quote
http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/smf2.0/index.php?topic=22287.msg392320#msg392320 (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/smf2.0/index.php?topic=22287.msg392320#msg392320)




Does anyone notice the similarities in the pattern and colour of the shirt MJ is wearing in the picture in this article to the picture in the article above it about the Whitney Houston greeting card being removed from the Target shelves? ( http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/29/whitney-houston-greeting-card-target/#.T04SZodOCAg (http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/29/whitney-houston-greeting-card-target/#.T04SZodOCAg)  )  the wording on that card is interesting.....it's odd.

...and that's all I'm going to say about that.




(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/smf2.0/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=22287.0;attach=3211;image)
 0228-paris-micheal-album-getty-ex.jpg (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/smf2.0/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=22287.0;attach=3211) (41.51 kB, 550x275 - viewed 304 times.)
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/smf2.0/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=22287.0;attach=3212;image)


She also dated MJ the "Bad" boy!   mj_bad/
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Adi on March 02, 2012, 04:15:07 AM
Hey MJonmind...thanks for copying my post here for me. I had thought it should go here too, but I didn't get around to doing it.

 :mrgreen:



Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: MJonmind on March 02, 2012, 04:36:22 AM
You're welcome!  I know sometimes stuff can be pertinent to several threads at once. :D
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: AKHTONI on March 02, 2012, 05:38:58 AM
If witney still alive we are going to see 3 BAMS MJ,EP and WH.maybe 4 or 5 we don't know who is next britney, lindsy lohan, paris hilton ......   :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: forever_michael on March 02, 2012, 06:08:31 AM
Hi guys!

Long time Michael fan, and long time lurker.  bearhug   Just wanted to pass along this video. Up until now, I thought Whitney might be alive and part of the hoax, but after viewing this press conference by the owner of Whighams funeral home, I don't know for sure. The owner claims she has been harassed (someone actually spit in her face  :evil:) but, swears she did NOT take the photo.  She says only she, her daughter and her manager saw Whitney's body.  :(  She is visually upset., so I tend to believe her.  She is also  upset at the Houston family.  Seems as though Cissy found out who took the pic and has now ceased the investigation.  At first I thought it may have been Raffels, but why protect him?  I personally think it was a family member.  Your thoughts?

http://video-embed.nj.com/services/player/bcpid651974715001?bctid=1483125647001&bckey=AQ~~,AAAAPLMIP6E~,BRrRHTAljlF40NofMDxsColEK-8KEsxy
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Adi on March 02, 2012, 06:19:14 AM
That is the weirdest press conference.

Something ain't right about it.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: RK on March 02, 2012, 09:19:45 AM
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If witney still alive we are going to see 3 BAMS MJ,EP and WH.maybe 4 or 5 we don't know who is next britney, lindsy lohan, paris hilton ......   :lol:  :lol:

I'd like to nominate Madonna
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: applehead250609 on March 02, 2012, 09:38:36 AM
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Hi guys!

Long time Michael fan, and long time lurker.  bearhug   Just wanted to pass along this video. Up until now, I thought Whitney might be alive and part of the hoax, but after viewing this press conference by the owner of Whighams funeral home, I don't know for sure. The owner claims she has been harassed (someone actually spit in her face  :evil:) but, swears she did NOT take the photo.  She says only she, her daughter and her manager saw Whitney's body.  :(  She is visually upset., so I tend to believe her.  She is also  upset at the Houston family.  Seems as though Cissy found out who took the pic and has now ceased the investigation.  At first I thought it may have been Raffels, but why protect him?  I personally think it was a family member.  Your thoughts?

http://video-embed.nj.com/services/player/bcpid651974715001?bctid=1483125647001&bckey=AQ~~,AAAAPLMIP6E~,BRrRHTAljlF40NofMDxsColEK-8KEsxy


Hy  :) and welcome  bearhug   !!!!! Thank you very much for the link  :mrgreen: .
Please excuse my language but I really had to ask this:  WTF?? was that video  :?  :shock: ????? Adi is rigtht:That is the weirdest press conference I had ever seen since 25 june 2009 lol  :?  lolol/ !!!
Whitney was under locking key???  WTF?? They slept in my building  :?  :?  :?  :? .


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQO0FLc-l80[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emTArHgG-yw&feature=results_main&playnext=1&list=PL88628D0E16579F49[/youtube]

Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: wishingstar on March 02, 2012, 10:06:49 AM
Love the glove applehead!  Your avatars are awesome.......I never know what I'll see :)
Have a most beautiful day and a very starry night!

LOVE
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: forever_michael on March 02, 2012, 10:09:17 AM
She was referring to Whitney's body being under lock and key.

As far as security sleeping in her funeral home, YES, I agree....that was weird.,  :shock:  Like, are there NO hotels in Newark? Who sleeps in a funeral home?  lolol/
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Adi on March 02, 2012, 12:20:26 PM
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If witney still alive we are going to see 3 BAMS MJ,EP and WH.maybe 4 or 5 we don't know who is next britney, lindsy lohan, paris hilton ......   :lol:  :lol:

I'd like to nominate Madonna

Whoever is poised to make a "comeback" it seems ?
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on March 02, 2012, 12:44:12 PM
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If witney still alive we are going to see 3 BAMS MJ,EP and WH.maybe 4 or 5 we don't know who is next britney, lindsy lohan, paris hilton ......   :lol:  :lol:

I'd like to nominate Madonna
@AKHTONI OMG! girl you're killing me with your funny posts!! lmao  :lol: lately every time I see your name on a post I prepare to laugh before I even read it!  :lol: :lol: :lol:

@RK: yesss! I thought about Madonna too! Mariah also is a possible "candidate" lol
it seems we're not the only ones to think about this!
here's a photo I found today on facebook.

THE KING, THE QUEEN & THE PRINCESS ------)) The shock trio :))) hihi all 3 accomplices to the hoax! ;)
Apparently it's a photo-shop, but not very far from reality IF YOU ASK ME... lolll

(http://img803.imageshack.us/img803/2369/43156933301310673434211.jpg)
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on March 02, 2012, 12:53:05 PM
from this thread: http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/smf2.0/index.php?topic=22298.msg392651;topicseen#new
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WOW  :-* !!!!

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/416886_1983426522343_1743630533_993063_597969443_n.jpg)
Thanks for this pic, @Applehead ;)


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Quote from: Adi
http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/smf2.0/index.php?topic=22287.msg392320#msg392320 (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/smf2.0/index.php?topic=22287.msg392320#msg392320)

Does anyone notice the similarities in the pattern and colour of the shirt MJ is wearing in the picture in this article to the picture in the article above it about the Whitney Houston greeting card being removed from the Target shelves? ( http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/29/whitney-houston-greeting-card-target/#.T04SZodOCAg (http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/29/whitney-houston-greeting-card-target/#.T04SZodOCAg) 
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/smf2.0/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=22287.0;attach=3211;image)
 0228-paris-micheal-album-getty-ex.jpg (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/smf2.0/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=22287.0;attach=3211) (41.51 kB, 550x275 - viewed 304 times.)
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/smf2.0/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=22287.0;attach=3212;image)
She also dated MJ the "Bad" boy!  mj_bad/

 /bravo/ I guess i 'll have to make also an "AWESOME CLUES-LIST"
Because these are not just weird facts, these are pretty awesome clues!!!  bounce/ albino/ :lol:
My friends I think we clearly have a Whitney-hoax here!
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: MJonmind on March 02, 2012, 01:14:30 PM
Quote
"I've known this family for many many many years, we go back to great grandparents."
"Nippy Ink security-- from Los Angeles--part of her security-- they slept in my building-- people I had never seen before in my life--Whitney was under lock and key."
"It is very obvious that the Houston family has ceased the investigation, why?"  Carolyn Whigham


Quote
Whitney travels with the same people all the time though her security detail may change depending on where she is. Her entourage is mainly her family members. You're referring to Patricia Houston, Whitney's sis-in-law and Krissy's aunt. Her brother Gary's wife. Started as a rep for Nippy Ink, now her manager. When asked on a radio show Whitney mentioned she and Pat manages her career. Prior to that it was her father John Houston since the beginning of her career till about 2000 when he became sick and passed away in 2002(?). Other members of her entourage incl. Uncle Ray, Aunt Bea, Nick, and older bald head security guy.
http://www.whitneyhouston.com/us/node/14872 (http://www.whitneyhouston.com/us/node/14872)

Nippy is a nic-name some call Whitney.  http://article.wn.com/view/2012/02/17/Ray_J_to_Whitney_Houston_I_Miss_You_Nippy/ (http://article.wn.com/view/2012/02/17/Ray_J_to_Whitney_Houston_I_Miss_You_Nippy/)


If there is a connection, could this security have gotten the key to take the pic?  Could the Whighams be involved in a hoax, if their families are close.  It's convenient that they've got someone else to blame.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on March 02, 2012, 01:48:10 PM
(http://img545.imageshack.us/img545/5505/mjcard004.jpg)



I'd like to know everything about these photos of Michael. Please tell me what you know!
WHEN , WHY, WHERE they were taken!
All I know is that I had them stored on my PC... Michael is so cute!
He looks awesome in this shirt! and also he has a naughty/prankster look on his face,
especially on the ones where he's holding a  . . . CARD? lol in his hand... or a notebook
OR a sheet of paper OR whatever that is!


(http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/5393/mjcard003.jpg)

(http://img813.imageshack.us/img813/4175/mjcard002.jpg)

(http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/1886/mjcard001.jpg)
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: katy (MJFAN7) on March 02, 2012, 02:04:05 PM
Sim, some more clues: Target was where LaToya was shopping, and the camera kept focusing on the "$9.99" price signs. & Target's also where Katherine was shopping for camping gear a day after MJ's death.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on March 02, 2012, 02:06:30 PM
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Sim, some more clues: Target was where LaToya was shopping, and the camera kept focusing on the "$9.99" price signs. & Target's also where Katherine was shopping for camping gear a day after MJ's death.
YooUUppiiiiiiiii  penguin/ /woohoo/ /woohoo/



Tks for adding this up @MJFAN7  bearhug
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: emulik on March 02, 2012, 02:23:48 PM
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(http://img545.imageshack.us/img545/5505/mjcard004.jpg)



I'd like to know everything about these photos of Michael. Please tell me what you know!
WHEN , WHY, WHERE they were taken!
All I know is that I had them stored on my PC... Michael is so cute!
He looks awesome in this shirt! and also he has a naughty/prankster look on his face,
especially on the ones where he's holding a  . . . CARD? lol in his hand... or a notebook
OR a sheet of paper OR whatever that is!


(http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/5393/mjcard003.jpg)

(http://img813.imageshack.us/img813/4175/mjcard002.jpg)

(http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/1886/mjcard001.jpg)

Sim, I think those photos were taken in 2003 when Michael received the key of the city of Las Vegas. Here is video:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekX92jPPncc[/youtube]
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: AKHTONI on March 02, 2012, 02:41:56 PM
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If witney still alive we are going to see 3 BAMS MJ,EP and WH.maybe 4 or 5 we don't know who is next britney, lindsy lohan, paris hilton ......   :lol:  :lol:

I'd like to nominate Madonna
@AKHTONI OMG! girl you're killing me with your funny posts!! lmao  :lol: lately every time I see your name on a post I prepare to laugh before I even read it!  :lol: :lol: :lol:

Simpattyk  :lol:  bearhug  bearhug  bearhug

Did you see the new photos of jacksons on auction I don't know if you find some clues but there is a unknown girl it's odd if she is unknown why in auction???? here the link

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2108208/Michael-Jacksons-family-photo-album-goes-auction.html
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on March 02, 2012, 04:10:30 PM
@emuilik: thanks for that video! i will watch it now... Did you notice that actually there are 2 distinct (but very similar) blouses in the photos I posted ^^
In the video that you posted, Michael wears one blouse...
But i wonder where were the other photos (the ones with a CROWN on his shirt) taken? neverland maybe?
Looking at him, the pics seem to be taken from the same period... 2003?

@AKHTONI: thanks for the link with the new photos of Jacksons on auction. I'll take a look now.... I'll tell you if i see something hoaxy lol  :lol:



Here's the latest TMZ article on Whitney:

Whitney Houston Secret 'Son' UNWELCOME at Singer's Home

http://www.tmz.com/2012/03/02/whitney-houston-secret-son-evicted/#.T1FAsnlWp3A

(http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/117/0301whitneybobikristina.jpg)

Whitney Houston's mom is on a mission to eradicate the bad influences from Bobbi Kristina's life ... and she's starting with a 22-year-old man who Whitney treated like her very own son.
Houston family sources tell TMZ ... Whitney invited Nick Gordon to live with her and Bobbi Kristina more than 10 years ago ... when Whitney learned Nick's mother could no longer care for him.
Whitney considered Nick her unofficially adopted son ... and treated him like family up until the end.

But now, sources tell us ... Cissy Houston believes Nick is a bad influence on her granddaughter and wants him OUT of the Houston family home in Atlanta ... ASAP.
We're told Cissy has already informed her lawyers about the eviction ... in case he puts up a fight.
There are reports that Nick was included in Whitney's will ... but so far, we're told the reports have not been confirmed by members of the Houston family.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Tink on March 02, 2012, 04:34:18 PM
A grandmum's gotta do what she must do, to protect her youngin' - before it's too late.
Blood's thicker than water, and she must save Bobbi.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on March 02, 2012, 05:25:30 PM
On page 32 (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/smf2.0/index.php?topic=22175.775) of this thread, I had written 3 long posts about the COLOR PURPLE


Here's the most recent video by MsFlyingfairy... very interesting about the COLOR PURPLE ;)

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GeXeThvTtc&feature=share[/youtube]



And this is a video supporting the idea of many other celebs being involved in the hoax!

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bty57CmwhNI&feature=share[/youtube]
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Dontwalkaway on March 02, 2012, 08:42:26 PM
Yes, there are many songs lately that connect to MJ  or the Hoax.  Did anyone notice that on Rihanna's video "We found love in a hopeless place" she has several bathtub scenes ?  In one scene she goes under water in the bathtub.  She is also wearing a shirt that says "We have ESP".    It could be a coincidence but maybe not. 
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: forever_michael on March 03, 2012, 02:40:57 AM
Oprah Winfrey lands Whitney Houston family interview | Inside TV | EW.com


Just because she’s moved to cable doesn’t mean Oprah Winfrey can’t still land a huge interview. The former queen of talk has booked Whitney Houston’s family for an exclusive sit down on OWN.

Houston’s daughter Bobbi Kristina, her sister-in-law and manager Patricia Houston and her brother Gary Houston will participate in a one-hour special episode of Oprah’s Next Chapter. They’ll discuss the rumors and speculation surrounding the pop star’s death. The episode airs Sunday, March 11 at 9 p.m.


http://insidetv.ew.com/2012/03/02/oprah-whitney-houston/

WTF??  Is it too soon for this? How soon after Michael's "death" did his children make their first televised appearance? Hmmm..... This is strange.  It will be exactly a month since Whitney's "death" when this airs.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: MJonmind on March 03, 2012, 02:57:20 AM
(http://img545.imageshack.us/img545/5505/mjcard004.jpg)

 
MJFAN7
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Sim, some more clues: Target was where LaToya was shopping, and the camera kept focusing on the "$9.99" price signs. & Target's also where Katherine was shopping for camping gear a day after MJ's death.


Can anyone tell if this is inside a Target store?  We don’t have Target in Canada. MJ says he has a good friend who owns a mall, and closed the whole mall for him to shop.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DMxJbxsioI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DMxJbxsioI)
 
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on March 03, 2012, 03:40:16 AM
OMG! @ MjonMind! That's really great! So Michael must have given to his Target-friend this "Whitney-card-text" before her "death" (as TMZ says, the cards appeared before her death) !! It shows PREMEDITATION! It is a PLAN! a hoax!!


@forever_michael: thank you for that link about Oprah's interview!! hahahaaaa  :lol: Why doesn't it surprise me!??
I was just wondering the other day when we would get to see the Houston family at Oprah and Larry KING!!! the 2 hoax accomplices!!
I wonder if Oprah will wear PURPLE again!! or maybe we will see a PURPLE decor in the show! or maybe Bobbi Kristina will wear PURPLE!

OMG! I am so excited ! I can't wait for it!

And yeah, you're right , it's weird, it's too soon!! Not even a month has passed since Whitney supposedly died, and here we are told that the family not only sold some private funeral footage to the media, but they also do an interview with Oprah! Ohh what a grieving-family they are!  :lol:
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: applehead250609 on March 03, 2012, 06:02:31 AM
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Oprah Winfrey lands Whitney Houston family interview | Inside TV | EW.com


Just because she’s moved to cable doesn’t mean Oprah Winfrey can’t still land a huge interview. The former queen of talk has booked Whitney Houston’s family for an exclusive sit down on OWN.

Houston’s daughter Bobbi Kristina, her sister-in-law and manager Patricia Houston and her brother Gary Houston will participate in a one-hour special episode of Oprah’s Next Chapter. They’ll discuss the rumors and speculation surrounding the pop star’s death. The episode airs Sunday, March 11 at 9 p.m.


http://insidetv.ew.com/2012/03/02/oprah-whitney-houston/

WTF??  Is it too soon for this? How soon after Michael's "death" did his children make their first televised appearance? Hmmm..... This is strange.  It will be exactly a month since Whitney's "death" when this airs.

Forever_Michael thanks again for the info  :) ,I just saw it on yahoo  :? ...mmmmmm .Ofourse it is too soon and more than that,I really believe that if Whitney passed,this is very very disrespectful and confirms that this days nothing is sacred anymore  :( .

http://news.yahoo.com/winfrey-interview-houstons-daughter-family-042027402.html
 (http://news.yahoo.com/winfrey-interview-houstons-daughter-family-042027402.html)

Here are 2 of the many comments regarding this subject:

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JohnB •  Jacksonville, Florida  •  6 hrs ago Report Abuse
This confirms it,Oprah is desperate.

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chris •  Los Angeles, California  •  6 hrs ago Report Abuse
come on-her mom just died-why can't we let people grieve and leave them alone. why does the family feel the need to respond? let it go
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: gwynned on March 03, 2012, 06:45:32 AM
Applehead, you made me tink!  Years ago, my kids were driving me crazy wanting junk food so I thought to cure their bad habits by only allowing them to eat junk food.  They could only eat cookies and candy, etc.  And absolutely NO green vegetables!  Needless to say, my clever plot backfired and I learned a couple of things.

One is, as a mother, it's best to think through these ridiculous threats BEFORE you make a fool of yourself.  And, Two, people can consume a massive amount of junk before it starts making them sick enough to stop.  My point  :?: is that I think Michael is pushing things in the media just past the point of acceptable aberrant behavior, so that the reaction has been sufficiently negative and people are sufficiently nauseous to say enough is enough!  Just in the last couple of days I've heard a few people casually remark how tasteless the coverage has been of Whitney's death.

Again, the genius of it is that people have NO IDEA how they are being manipulated to change their opinion about celebrity gossip.   mj_bad/
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on March 03, 2012, 07:33:11 AM
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[....]Again, the genius of it is that people have NO IDEA how they are being manipulated to change their opinion about celebrity gossip.   mj_bad/
  /bravo/ @gwynned : Your whole post above is extraordinary! I couldn't have found any better words to say it like you did.
And this final phrase I quoted from you ^^ could be well the SUMMARY of this whole 34 pages-thread!!
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on March 03, 2012, 09:07:38 AM
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On page 32 (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/smf2.0/index.php?topic=22175.775) of this thread, I had written 3 long posts about the COLOR PURPLE


Here's the most recent video by MsFlyingfairy... very interesting about the COLOR PURPLE ;)

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GeXeThvTtc&feature=share[/youtube]



And this is a video supporting the idea of many other celebs being involved in the hoax!

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bty57CmwhNI&feature=share[/youtube]

Other celebs possibly involved in the hoax

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzAE0MxMY2M&feature=player_embedded#![/youtube]
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on March 03, 2012, 09:20:51 AM
Whitney Houston's Portrait Hard to Swallow
http://www.tmz.com/2012/03/01/whitney-houston-portrait-pills/#.T1I0rHlWp3A

LMAO :))))))))))))))))) (http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Rires/MDR-mort-de-rire.gif)(http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Rires/MDR-mort-de-rire.gif)
(http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Rires/18c_blue.gif)


Crack is whack, but pills are ... a work of art?

A portrait of late singer Whitney Houston made up entirely of pills has been created by mosaic artist Jason Mecier. In the past, Mecier has made similar portraits of Amy Winehouse, Michael Jackson and Courtney Love among others.

Ibuprofen, Xanax, Midol and amoxicillin were some of the pills found in Whitney's hotel room when she died last month.

(http://img851.imageshack.us/img851/197/0301whitneyhoustonpills.jpg)
I LOVE THE PURPLE IN IT
:lol: ;)



Oprah Winfrey Lands Interview with Whitney Houston's Daughter
http://www.tmz.com/2012/03/03/oprah-winfrey-whitney-houston-bobbi-kristina-interview/#.T1I17XlWp3B

Oprah Winfrey has finally found a way to get people to watch OWN -- she's scored an interview with family members of Whitney Houston, including daughter Bobbi Kristina.
The show "Oprah's Next Chapter" will feature Houston's only daughter ... as well as Patricia Houston, her sister-in-law and manager, and Houston's brother Gary. It is scheduled to air next Sunday.

Oprah was one of the guests invited to Houston's funeral in Newark, NJ last month.
Houston was 48-years-old when she was found dead in a bathtub at the Beverly Hilton on February 11. 
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: AKHTONI on March 03, 2012, 10:46:00 AM
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@emuilik: thanks for that video! i will watch it now... Did you notice that actually there are 2 distinct (but very similar) blouses in the photos I posted ^^
In the video that you posted, Michael wears one blouse...
But i wonder where were the other photos (the ones with a CROWN on his shirt) taken? neverland maybe?
Looking at him, the pics seem to be taken from the same period... 2003?

SimPattyK I think the photos with the crown on his shirt were in Washington Capitol Hill 2004 here the link

http://www.fanpop.com/spots/michael-jackson/images/17377165/title/michael-visits-capitol-hill-photo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PLM_LSETGk&feature=player_detailpage
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on March 03, 2012, 12:36:15 PM
@AKHTONI: thank you for finding that! never saw that video!!  bearhug
Interesting! hummm... very interesting! Especially because Jessie Jackson was mentioned there twice (this man is really present everywhere !) and also the timing: during the trial....
I still wonder what was that sheet of paper that Michal holds in his hand in the other pics above ^^
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: applehead250609 on March 04, 2012, 04:53:02 PM
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Applehead, you made me tink!  Years ago, my kids were driving me crazy wanting junk food so I thought to cure their bad habits by only allowing them to eat junk food.  They could only eat cookies and candy, etc.  And absolutely NO green vegetables!  Needless to say, my clever plot backfired and I learned a couple of things.

One is, as a mother, it's best to think through these ridiculous threats BEFORE you make a fool of yourself.  And, Two, people can consume a massive amount of junk before it starts making them sick enough to stop.  My point  :?: is that I think Michael is pushing things in the media just past the point of acceptable aberrant behavior, so that the reaction has been sufficiently negative and people are sufficiently nauseous to say enough is enough!  Just in the last couple of days I've heard a few people casually remark how tasteless the coverage has been of Whitney's death.

Again, the genius of it is that people have NO IDEA how they are being manipulated to change their opinion about celebrity gossip.   mj_bad/

Gwynned thank you very much for sharing some Parenting Skills  bearhug .......very usefull for a future mother like me,who knows  :)  ;)) .
Now talking about gossip,news, junk food and.... Michael of course  ;) .The more I think about what it's happening nowadays,the more I believe that it has to do with TRASH/Gardbage  :idea: ........and that maybe Michael is somehow behind this.Michael always said to don't believe The media because is gardbage.........but what if he knew that people will never stop reading them and that ,they will do exactly THE OPPOSITE   :shock: ?????.................because of Human Nature  :oops:  mj_bad/ !!!!! As we know Michael is a visionary and I'm more than convinced that he had read some books about human psychology and human mind/brain.THE MIND is very tricky and if you "feed" her and not your SOUL(LOVE),in the end it will eat you up .....ALIVE.Better saying we We Are All Being Played...with/by our own Mind  :shock:  /cook/  smiley_spider .


(http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRgAO5XKxc_vyLXQ6nBDFykCArSiKKoCi_k0K7lowvxop_GGVJ9eoL9yy7m)(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/615MF45DYRL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3493/4039783150_837c34bea7.jpg)

(http://www.fansshare.com/celebrity/photos/820_rihanna-chrisbrown-bruised-2105874316.jpg)

Please tell me what do you think about it  :) .

Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: hesouttamylife on March 04, 2012, 05:16:50 PM
Did I miss the results of Whitney’s toxicology report? 
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: MJonmind on March 05, 2012, 02:39:20 AM
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@emuilik: thanks for that video! i will watch it now... Did you notice that actually there are 2 distinct (but very similar) blouses in the photos I posted ^^
In the video that you posted, Michael wears one blouse...
But i wonder where were the other photos (the ones with a CROWN on his shirt) taken? neverland maybe?
Looking at him, the pics seem to be taken from the same period... 2003?

SimPattyK I think the photos with the crown on his shirt were in Washington Capitol Hill 2004 here the link

http://www.fanpop.com/spots/michael-jackson/images/17377165/title/michael-visits-capitol-hill-photo (http://www.fanpop.com/spots/michael-jackson/images/17377165/title/michael-visits-capitol-hill-photo)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PLM_LSETGk&feature=player_detailpage (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PLM_LSETGk&feature=player_detailpage)
Wow!  MJ is truly a mover and a shaker behind the scenes!  He is such a sight for sore eyes! :-*   I feel butterflies in my tummy!
I know the other lady is probably talking about this Sheila Jackson-Lee, but at 7:35 she says, "We have our marching orders. We're delighted we have the kind of marching general...", but just maybe she's actually referring to MJ, who leads our Army of Love.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: hesouttamylife on March 05, 2012, 12:28:27 PM
 OMG! I just realized that picture is done with different color pills.  Though it’s not funny, it kinda is  :lol:  “Whitney’s portrait ‘hard to swallow’”.  Hilarious. Sorry  respect/
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: MJonmind on March 05, 2012, 03:28:38 PM
Has this video by MJFanFOREVERAnd ADAY, Feb 21, 2012,  been posted before on this thread? Sorry if it has.


Truth Serum 9 (Something Blue...Too...)



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkRwWdXCNUA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkRwWdXCNUA)


She is basically saying that the Bloodline of Europe's kings linked to bankers/powers is blue, possibly bluish blood of hemophilia condition. She says the logos of top organizations and clothes celebs wear having blue, is THEM marking their territory. She believes Whitney was murdered because her Christian faith was what they opposed. Michael's blue eye was giving us a heads up about the color blue.


Where I disagree with her (besides Whitney for sure being dead) is that I don't believe MJ is now preaching Jesus Christ in this hoax.  I can see the Blue (purple) defining royalty, but there's 2 blood-lines of royalty as I see it. The false bloodline of King David culminating in Prince William, and the true bloodline culminating in Michael Jackson. She's done some very good investigating, into this almost bottomless rabbit hole.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on March 05, 2012, 03:33:41 PM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOlQH_q0yeE&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]

Jermaine Jackson speaks about Whitney  (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/smf2.0/index.php?topic=22178.0)

Jermaine Jackson in love with Whitney Houston ...  (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/smf2.0/index.php?topic=22319.msg393168#msg393168)

Did Jermaine Jackson Just Write and Release a Whitney Houston Tribute Song? (http://uk.eonline.com/news/true_false_did_jermaine_jackson_just/296348#ixzz1nOBBNMtK)


^^Interesting how I have never known about any romantic relationship between Whitney and either Michael or Jermaine!

And NOW, after her "death", all of the sudden, we find out that:

1. Whitney dated MJ. Michael took Whitney to Neverland by a heli ! 

2. Whitney  thought Michael was playing with her finger-toes,
but it was actually Bubbles licking her toes !!  :shock:  WTF??

3. Whitney wanted to marry Michael
4. And Jermaine had a one-year love affair with her...

I wonder when did Whitney have time for Bobby Brown and her career at the same time?? with so many celebs in her life, apparently in the same period?? What's wrong with this picture!??  :shock: WTF??


Whitney Houston 'really wanted to marry' Michael Jackson - according to their friend David Gest (http://bigpondnews.com/articles/Entertainment/2012/02/22/Houston_wanted_to_marry_Michael_721033.html)

(http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/8917/image2ecu.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/19/image2ecu.jpg/)
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: MJonmind on March 05, 2012, 04:17:09 PM
The Whitney's toes and Bubbles story is pretty old, but now that's it's more important, I have to say that the only logical way I can figure it out is this.
Either MJ is out of the room at the time which she would know wouldn't she?  If MJ is sitting at the table, she's got know he can't be under and sitting at the same time. So therefore both MJ and Bubbles HAVE to both be under the table.  MJ has to be playing a joke on her, and somehow got Bubbles to do this crazy thing, maybe put some food on her toes which Bubbles licked off.  This is just so insanely funny. Perhaps MJ was making romantic overtures towards her, and said he was going down to surprise her!!
 mj_bad/


Any girl (including me) would give anything to go on a date with him.  What an adventure it would be!  But hey, being in on this hoax is the next best thing to it---it's a 3 year group date with MJ! :-*
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: gwynned on March 05, 2012, 08:43:58 PM
I don't think any of us have any idea if there is any truth to this 'rumor.'  BUT we do know that Whitney's death was a boon to SONY and the Jacksons have another  convenient opportunity to be in the headlines. 
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: ilovemjforever on March 06, 2012, 04:15:24 PM
<a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2111033/Whitney-Houston-relatives-demand-murder-investigation.html#ixzz1oNIjYW9j">Whitney Houston 'relatives' demand murder investigation as they 'flood Coroner's Office with phone calls.

interesting article.Perhaps Whitney's loved ones were not buying the accidental death theory.Hmm.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: blankie on March 06, 2012, 04:32:46 PM
 OMG! OMG! OMG! /white flag/ /white flag/ /white flag/ :?
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: hesouttamylife on March 06, 2012, 05:16:06 PM
Based on the comments, we conspiracy theorists obviously have a whole lot of influence on familie’s decisions.  We are now being blamed for Whitney’s family wanting an investigation.  Wow. With that kind of power, maybe we should be getting paid, lol.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on March 06, 2012, 07:25:30 PM
@gwynned: it's not a rumor , Whitney herself told about the licking of toes part...See the video on the previous page...

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Any girl (including me) would give anything to go on a date with him.  What an adventure it would be!  But hey, being in on this hoax is the next best thing to it---it's a 3 year group date with MJ! :-*
hahaaa :lol: That's an awesome vision of the hoax I've never had before! "a 3 year group date with MJ" - at least regarding the adventure and the pulling of pranks, you're so right @MJonMind!! ;)  :lol:

Regarding your theories on the licking of Whitney's toes  :lol: that's so funny!
I think it's just one more BUBBLES (monkey) reference thrown out there.... it's MONKEY Business! it's a hoax (that's how I see the whole story)


@ilovemjforever: tks for posting that article!
 Again...it's not  a surprise for me that the things take such a course... Whitney's death looks like anything you like , BUT not like a "normal death". So a crime investigation is very much appropriate in this case!!


@hesouttamylife: you're right !! :lol: we should get paid! lmao  :lol: :lol:
If Elvis comes back, I volunteer to work with him for the FBI! lmao  :lol: I'd take any orders from Agent Elvis008!!  :lol:  :-*
 


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtVsQVrtUps&feature=share[/youtube]
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on March 08, 2012, 05:55:23 PM
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[...]

Oprah Winfrey Lands Interview with Whitney Houston's Daughter
http://www.tmz.com/2012/03/03/oprah-winfrey-whitney-houston-bobbi-kristina-interview/#.T1I17XlWp3B

Oprah Winfrey has finally found a way to get people to watch OWN -- she's scored an interview with family members of Whitney Houston, including daughter Bobbi Kristina.
The show "Oprah's Next Chapter" will feature Houston's only daughter ... as well as Patricia Houston, her sister-in-law and manager, and Houston's brother Gary. It is scheduled to air next Sunday.

Oprah was one of the guests invited to Houston's funeral in Newark, NJ last month.
Houston was 48-years-old when she was found dead in a bathtub at the Beverly Hilton on February 11.

Oprah Interviewing Bobbi Kristina: LaToya Jackson Weighs In On 'The Talk' (VIDEO)

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/05/oprah-bobbi-kristina-latoya-jackson_n_1322450.html

In the wake of the announcement that the late Whitney Houston's only child Bobbi Kristina will sit down for an interview with Oprah Winfrey, LaToya Jackson shared her thoughts on the subject on "The Talk" (weekdays, CBS). It will be the 18-year-old's first sit-down interview since her mother tragically died at the Beverly Hills Hilton on Feb. 11, the evening before the 2012 Grammy Awards.

When LaToya Jackson's brother Michael died in 2009, his three children sat down with Winfrey as well. "I know that when my brother passed, people were very interested in what happened," she told the women of "The Talk" about what led them to agree to the interview. "And if you don't give it to them right away, people will start making up rumors and saying all sorts of things so it's better to nip it in the bud."

Jackson added: "Oprah definitely wanted the kids involved ... I was just a nervous wreck and they would act as if he was still here ... So that helped me a great deal from listening to them. And doing that, [in] speaking out, that make them stronger actually."


Winfrey's interview with Bobbi Kristina will air on "Oprah's Next Chapter" on the Oprah Winfrey Network. Houston's brother Gary and her sister-in-law and manager Patricia Houston will reportedly also be involved in the TV special, which is scheduled to air March 11.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: ilovemjforever on March 08, 2012, 07:24:01 PM
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[...]

Oprah Winfrey Lands Interview with Whitney Houston's Daughter
http://www.tmz.com/2012/03/03/oprah-winfrey-whitney-houston-bobbi-kristina-interview/#.T1I17XlWp3B

Oprah Winfrey has finally found a way to get people to watch OWN -- she's scored an interview with family members of Whitney Houston, including daughter Bobbi Kristina.
The show "Oprah's Next Chapter" will feature Houston's only daughter ... as well as Patricia Houston, her sister-in-law and manager, and Houston's brother Gary. It is scheduled to air next Sunday.

Oprah was one of the guests invited to Houston's funeral in Newark, NJ last month.
Houston was 48-years-old when she was found dead in a bathtub at the Beverly Hilton on February 11.

Oprah Interviewing Bobbi Kristina: LaToya Jackson Weighs In On 'The Talk' (VIDEO)

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/05/oprah-bobbi-kristina-latoya-jackson_n_1322450.html

In the wake of the announcement that the late Whitney Houston's only child Bobbi Kristina will sit down for an interview with Oprah Winfrey, LaToya Jackson shared her thoughts on the subject on "The Talk" (weekdays, CBS). It will be the 18-year-old's first sit-down interview since her mother tragically died at the Beverly Hills Hilton on Feb. 11, the evening before the 2012 Grammy Awards.

When LaToya Jackson's brother Michael died in 2009, his three children sat down with Winfrey as well. "I know that when my brother passed, people were very interested in what happened," she told the women of "The Talk" about what led them to agree to the interview. "And if you don't give it to them right away, people will start making up rumors and saying all sorts of things so it's better to nip it in the bud."

Jackson added: "Oprah definitely wanted the kids involved ... I was just a nervous wreck and they would act as if he was still here ... So that helped me a great deal from listening to them. And doing that, [in] speaking out, that make them stronger actually."


Winfrey's interview with Bobbi Kristina will air on "Oprah's Next Chapter" on the Oprah Winfrey Network. Houston's brother Gary and her sister-in-law and manager Patricia Houston will reportedly also be involved in the TV special, which is scheduled to air March 11.
I am wondering who is behind this TPTB or Michael  michael-jackson/.I choose the latter.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on March 09, 2012, 12:35:00 AM
More videos that sustain the Illuminati-sacrifice theory


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpzszvzAILo&feature=channel
[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_r4KdVIGGY&feature=related[/youtube]


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hc3uBsOom3U&list=UUm0C42vmysTLS-apDVnLKKw&index=25&feature=plcp[/youtube]


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sth4rF7tCh8&feature=related[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mN3Ga4ieD2I&list=UUm0C42vmysTLS-apDVnLKKw&index=16&feature=plcp[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geskg3y0kdU&feature=related[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSBujftIDGU&feature=related[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHcQChdXMh8&context=C421bad3ADvjVQa1PpcFNcxRSvAXZTUHSzrv_x9D8gGdSYMwUtkAQ=[/youtube]
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: gwynned on March 09, 2012, 02:14:12 AM
How is it that every time Whitney's name comes up, a Jackson is somehow involved?  Why is LaToya 'weighing in'?  Seems rather suspicious to me.  Could it be the Man behind the curtain having a little fun?
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on March 09, 2012, 03:09:44 AM
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How is it that every time Whitney's name comes up, a Jackson is somehow involved?  Why is LaToya 'weighing in'?  Seems rather suspicious to me.  Could it be the Man behind the curtain having a little fun?
YEP!!! I think the same way too!! ;)
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: MJonmind on March 09, 2012, 03:11:13 AM
So after watching all those videos Simpa, what's your thoughts? Sacrifice or clever hoax?  I'm so torn. I can see it from both sides. :?   Certainly more and more videos are coming out, pointing to foul play, conspiracy and occult involvement. I don't think this is over by a long shot.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on March 09, 2012, 03:17:42 AM
@MJonMind: Taking into account how many JACKSON references we still see in Whitney's case, I tend to beLIEve that everything is set up to look like an Illuminati sacrifice! with the purpose of exposing their rituals and occult practices! I see that Whitney's death is made like an example (lesson) of what the Illuminati could do!! And precisely because there are so many videos out there talking about this, precisely because everything was made in such an EXPLICIT and BLATANT style, it is a clue to me that this can't be real!! it's just too much! The Illuminati would never expose themselves like that! IMO!
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: diggyon on March 09, 2012, 03:36:23 AM
Well, if it is a hoax and Whitney has been saved from dying then it is safer for her to let everyone think that she died, not only died but killed by the evil people to turn the world against them. She didn't fake her death for a certain reason. If the sacrifice should have taken place, then someone must have warned her and she was saved. All the videos out there are made to make the people take notice of the evil world behind all evil deeds. Either she really didn't die and someone else did, or  a dummy was put there too to trick the Illuminati, then of course they won't tell anybody that their plan has failed. They will just go on with their plan and place all the Egyptian coffins everywhere, as part of their ceremony!! I really hope that she is still living and fine. I hope she has escaped this terrible death! But who might be next on the sacrifice list??? 
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on March 09, 2012, 12:25:40 PM
Great thinking @diggyon! ;)
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: diggyon on March 09, 2012, 12:40:42 PM
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Great thinking @diggyon! ;)

Thank you Sim :)
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: paula-c on March 09, 2012, 12:57:04 PM
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Well, if it is a hoax and Whitney has been saved from dying then it is safer for her to let everyone think that she died, not only died but killed by the evil people to turn the world against them. She didn't fake her death for a certain reason. If the sacrifice should have taken place, then someone must have warned her and she was saved. All the videos out there are made to make the people take notice of the evil world behind all evil deeds. Either she really didn't die and someone else did, or  a dummy was put there too to trick the Illuminati, then of course they won't tell anybody that their plan has failed. They will just go on with their plan and place all the Egyptian coffins everywhere, as part of their ceremony!! I really hope that she is still living and fine. I hope she has escaped this terrible death! But who might be next on the sacrifice list??? 



I found this news by other strange, ..and if the goal was his daughter?


Bobbi Kristina’s Eerie Incident At Beverly Hilton Before Whitney’s Death!

Bobbi Kristina almost suffered the same fate as her mother when she fell asleep in a bathtub at the Beverly Hilton and  almost drowned. Bobbi’s father, Bobby Brown has flown back to LA to be with his distraught daughter. When asked of his agent, Jeff Allen, why Bobby left his tour he  said, “His love for his daughter and his daughter being in the hospital. He wants to go be with his daughter.”
The day before Whitney Houston was found dead in her bathtub at the Beverly Hilton … her daughter, Bobbi Kristina, fell asleep in a bathtub in the exact same hotel … TMZ has learned.
According to our sources, friends of Bobbi Kristina tried knocking on her door repeatedly Friday night … but she didn’t answer. We’re told they called security to get them to unlock the door and help them get Bobbi out of the tub.
Our sources say it happened on the same floor of the hotel where Whitney would be found dead the next day. We’re told the room Bobbi Kristina was in was booked under Whitney’s name.
As TMZ first reported, Bobbi Kristina has been hospitalized twice since her mother’s passing and we’re told her family fears she might be suicidal.

http://beautelicious.com/2012/02/bobbi-kristinas-eerie-incident-beverly-hilton-whitneys-death-tub-drown-bobby-brown/
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Tink on March 09, 2012, 02:05:02 PM
Reason for the Egyptian Sarcophagi?

Because it's a common myth, that Cleopatra was at least 1/4 Nubian.
This claim comes from the '60s, but unfortunately - it wasn't by historians.
In reality, she was Cleopatra the VII, of Macedonian Greek blood. Perhaps not pure,
but without a genetic test on her corpse, we shall never know with certainty whether
she had a little Nubian in her.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: diggyon on March 09, 2012, 02:24:43 PM
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Reason for the Egyptian Sarcophagi?

Because it's a common myth, that Cleopatra was at least 1/4 Nubian.
This claim comes from the '60s, but unfortunately - it wasn't by historians.
In reality, she was Cleopatra the VII, of Macedonian Greek blood. Perhaps not pure,
but without a genetic test on her corpse, we shall never know with certainty whether
she had a little Nubian in her.

I don't get it!! And what about Whitney ?
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Adi on March 11, 2012, 09:55:32 PM
Part of the interview with Oprah.......this has a familiar ring to it.  smiley_spider


BOBBI KRISTINA I 'Can Still Hear' Whitney

Bobbi Kristina says she can't bring herself to listen to her mother Whitney Houston's music just yet ... but she can says she can "still hear" her mother's voice talking to her sometimes.

Bobbi, along with Whitney's mother Cissy and several other Houston family members, sat down with Oprah Winfrey for an interview that aired tonight on OWN.

Bobbi talked about how she still feels her mother's presence in the home she lived in with her in Atlanta, telling Oprah, "Lights turn on and off, and I'm like, 'Mom, what are you doing?'"

You can see the snippet here:  http://www.tmz.com/2012/03/11/whitney-houston-bobbi-kristina-oprah-interview/#.T11kG4FOCAg
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Tink on March 12, 2012, 12:04:50 AM
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Reason for the Egyptian Sarcophagi?

Because it's a common myth, that Cleopatra was at least 1/4 Nubian.
This claim comes from the '60s, but unfortunately - it wasn't by historians.
In reality, she was Cleopatra the VII, of Macedonian Greek blood. Perhaps not pure,
but without a genetic test on her corpse, we shall never know with certainty whether
she had a little Nubian in her.

I don't get it!! And what about Whitney ?

I thought I was crystal (clear): Many of us in the Black Community embrace that we indeed
once ruled Ancient Egypt - ergo, using Egyptian Sarcophagi was saying that Whitney was related
to the Ancient Egyptians.

You're not Black, so I can understand you're ignorance of a race being enslaved for thousands of years
by others - and then we put things like this, outside of our people's funerals. It's a sign of HONOR,
of the highest degree, and acknowledging that she was a leader in life, and was indeed, one of OUR QUEENS.

I like to think Cleopatra was indeed  1/4 Nubian, because anything's possible.

Now - does that explain it more clearly, to someone who's ancestors who weren't slaves? rr/
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on March 12, 2012, 04:32:48 PM
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Reason for the Egyptian Sarcophagi?
Because it's a common myth, that Cleopatra was at least 1/4 Nubian.
This claim comes from the '60s, but unfortunately - it wasn't by historians.
In reality, she was Cleopatra the VII, of Macedonian Greek blood. Perhaps not pure,
but without a genetic test on her corpse, we shall never know with certainty whether
she had a little Nubian in her.
I don't get it!! And what about Whitney ?
I thought I was crystal (clear): [...]

You're not Black, so I can understand you're ignorance of a race being enslaved for thousands of years by others - and then we put things like this, outside of our people's funerals. [...]
Now - does that explain it more clearly, to someone who's ancestors who weren't slaves? rr/
@diggyon, I gotta tell you that I am as IGNORANT as you are, for not being black enough to understand Tink's "crystal clear" message. :shock:
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: skyways on March 12, 2012, 06:40:39 PM
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Part of the interview with Oprah.......this has a familiar ring to it.  smiley_spider


BOBBI KRISTINA I 'Can Still Hear' Whitney

Bobbi Kristina says she can't bring herself to listen to her mother Whitney Houston's music just yet ... but she can says she can "still hear" her mother's voice talking to her sometimes.

Bobbi, along with Whitney's mother Cissy and several other Houston family members, sat down with Oprah Winfrey for an interview that aired tonight on OWN.

Bobbi talked about how she still feels her mother's presence in the home she lived in with her in Atlanta, telling Oprah, "Lights turn on and off, and I'm like, 'Mom, what are you doing?'"

You can see the snippet here:  http://www.tmz.com/2012/03/11/whitney-houston-bobbi-kristina-oprah-interview/#.T11kG4FOCAg



You are right!!

look like LaToya have script for her @@ - and NO tears and stress out(((( again..??
I dont think i wl be able to speak on such calm smaily tone after my dearest mother just passing away((/....

i dont kno what to make of it.....
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: mjj4ever777 on March 12, 2012, 08:01:44 PM
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Reason for the Egyptian Sarcophagi?

Because it's a common myth, that Cleopatra was at least 1/4 Nubian.
This claim comes from the '60s, but unfortunately - it wasn't by historians.
In reality, she was Cleopatra the VII, of Macedonian Greek blood. Perhaps not pure,
but without a genetic test on her corpse, we shall never know with certainty whether
she had a little Nubian in her.

I don't get it!! And what about Whitney ?

I thought I was crystal (clear): Many of us in the Black Community embrace that we indeed
once ruled Ancient Egypt - ergo, using Egyptian Sarcophagi was saying that Whitney was related
to the Ancient Egyptians.

You're not Black, so I can understand you're ignorance of a race being enslaved for thousands of years
by others - and then we put things like this, outside of our people's funerals. It's a sign of HONOR,
of the highest degree, and acknowledging that she was a leader in life, and was indeed, one of OUR QUEENS.

I like to think Cleopatra was indeed  1/4 Nubian, because anything's possible.

Now - does that explain it more clearly, to someone who's ancestors who weren't slaves? rr/

Hmmm....  smiley_spider I thought that we ALL belonged to the SAME "race"...The HUMAN(E) Race! Where is the LOVE??
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: YouRnotAlone7 on March 12, 2012, 08:21:28 PM
The Oprah interview was very touching....I'm not a big Oprah fan and thinks she plays to the camera, but it was a good interview, nonetheless.  She said Whitney was found face down in the bathtub in the morning....and Whitney was not a drinker...maybe a glass now and then...and said she was off drugs.  This is just too obviously a murder.  She was just about to make a come-back...just like Michael.  I just don't understand how so many people can maintain a straight face after a loved one suddenly dies....maybe it's must me, but I'd be a wreck and would cry everytime I talked about them.  Maybe Oprah will start connecting the dots and see that something odd is going on with singers dieing right before the Grammys.  Maybe she will be the one to open up the can of worms. 
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: ilovemjforever on March 12, 2012, 09:25:10 PM
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Reason for the Egyptian Sarcophagi?

Because it's a common myth, that Cleopatra was at least 1/4 Nubian.
This claim comes from the '60s, but unfortunately - it wasn't by historians.
In reality, she was Cleopatra the VII, of Macedonian Greek blood. Perhaps not pure,
but without a genetic test on her corpse, we shall never know with certainty whether
she had a little Nubian in her.

I don't get it!! And what about Whitney ?

I thought I was crystal (clear): Many of us in the Black Community embrace that we indeed
once ruled Ancient Egypt - ergo, using Egyptian Sarcophagi was saying that Whitney was related
to the Ancient Egyptians.

You're not Black, so I can understand you're ignorance of a race being enslaved for thousands of years
by others - and then we put things like this, outside of our people's funerals. It's a sign of HONOR,
of the highest degree, and acknowledging that she was a leader in life, and was indeed, one of OUR QUEENS.

I like to think Cleopatra was indeed  1/4 Nubian, because anything's possible.

Now - does that explain it more clearly, to someone who's ancestors who weren't slaves? rr/

Hmmm....  smiley_spider I thought that we ALL belonged to the SAME "race"...The HUMAN(E) Race! Where is the LOVE??
Amen,we are all one,sometimes we have to be reminded,lol.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Shamone Jackson on March 12, 2012, 09:49:51 PM
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Did you see the new photos of jacksons on auction I don't know if you find some clues but there is a unknown girl it's odd if she is unknown why in auction???? here the link

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2108208/Michael-Jacksons-family-photo-album-goes-auction.html

Hello there.  In case no one has answered you, the unknown girl is Hazel Gordy.  She was Jermaine's first wife.  She is also the daughter of Berry Gordy.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Tink on March 12, 2012, 10:00:56 PM
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The Oprah interview was very touching....I'm not a big Oprah fan and thinks she plays to the camera, but it was a good interview, nonetheless.  She said Whitney was found face down in the bathtub in the morning....and Whitney was not a drinker...maybe a glass now and then...and said she was off drugs.  This is just too obviously a murder.  She was just about to make a come-back...just like Michael.  I just don't understand how so many people can maintain a straight face after a loved one suddenly dies....maybe it's must me, but I'd be a wreck and would cry everytime I talked about them.  Maybe Oprah will start connecting the dots and see that something odd is going on with singers dieing right before the Grammys.  Maybe she will be the one to open up the can of worms. 

I want to know the angle. Face down, can mean a variety of things, including a slight head tilt with the head down. It should be in the FORENSIC REPORT.

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Reason for the Egyptian Sarcophagi?

Because it's a common myth, that Cleopatra was at least 1/4 Nubian.
This claim comes from the '60s, but unfortunately - it wasn't by historians.
In reality, she was Cleopatra the VII, of Macedonian Greek blood. Perhaps not pure,
but without a genetic test on her corpse, we shall never know with certainty whether
she had a little Nubian in her.

I don't get it!! And what about Whitney ?

I thought I was crystal (clear): Many of us in the Black Community embrace that we indeed
once ruled Ancient Egypt - ergo, using Egyptian Sarcophagi was saying that Whitney was related
to the Ancient Egyptians.

You're not Black, so I can understand you're ignorance of a race being enslaved for thousands of years
by others - and then we put things like this, outside of our people's funerals. It's a sign of HONOR,
of the highest degree, and acknowledging that she was a leader in life, and was indeed, one of OUR QUEENS.

I like to think Cleopatra was indeed  1/4 Nubian, because anything's possible.

Now - does that explain it more clearly, to someone who's ancestors who weren't slaves? rr/

Hmmm....  smiley_spider I thought that we ALL belonged to the SAME "race"...The HUMAN(E) Race! Where is the LOVE??

Those are simply words, unless you take actions. But if you really practice what you preach in reality, with people of EVERY COLOR, then I'm quite happy.

Every time I'm out I do smile at everyone, spread Love. But when the white woman in line at the grocery store looks at me with suspicion, and pulls her purse in tightly against her body - a little piece of my heart bleeds. Even then, I'll try and make her laugh and relax - because I know it's been taught to her.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: applehead250609 on March 13, 2012, 02:48:09 AM
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Reason for the Egyptian Sarcophagi?

Because it's a common myth, that Cleopatra was at least 1/4 Nubian.
This claim comes from the '60s, but unfortunately - it wasn't by historians.
In reality, she was Cleopatra the VII, of Macedonian Greek blood. Perhaps not pure,
but without a genetic test on her corpse, we shall never know with certainty whether
she had a little Nubian in her.

I don't get it!! And what about Whitney ?

I thought I was crystal (clear): Many of us in the Black Community embrace that we indeed
once ruled Ancient Egypt - ergo, using Egyptian Sarcophagi was saying that Whitney was related
to the Ancient Egyptians.

You're not Black, so I can understand you're ignorance  :shock:  WTF??  of a race being enslaved for thousands of years
by others
- and then we put things like this, outside of our people's funerals. It's a sign of HONOR,
of the highest degree, and acknowledging that she was a leader in life, and was indeed, one of OUR QUEENS.

I like to think Cleopatra was indeed  1/4 Nubian, because anything's possible.

Now - does that explain it more clearly, to someone who's ancestors who weren't slaves? rr/

(http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m0p36jtv391qjp3yqo1_500.jpg)

Tink, the fact that your ancestors were slaves ( your own words),has nothing to do with people on this forum,cause they are not guilty for a thing that happened a long time ago.More than that,by calling people ignorants,you just proved that KNOWLEDGE doesn't really mean WISDOM :( .Ignorant..... that is a strong word. If you want to have a civilized conversation, or show that you know more never use it, we all lack knowledge about certain subjects and a lot about others. A person may be uneducated but that does not make them ignorant at all.It is exactly the same thing that Michael told Brett Ratner in their little conversation they had around 2003.PRACTICE more ........means more WISDOM.

Quote
BR: What qualities of yours helped you get where you are today?

MJ: Faith and determination. And practice.

BR: Right. Practice makes perfect. What would you have done differently in your career if you knew then what you know now?

MJ: What would I have done differently? Let me see … Practice more.

BR: Practice more?

MJ: I practiced a lot.

BR: You practiced a hell of a lot! [Jackson laughs] But you would have practiced more? [Jackson nods] What’s your greatest lesson learned?

Tink I know that ACTIONs SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS......but please don't forget that WORDS also can hurt and who knows maybe kill someONE's spirit too  :( .

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCelOBYVpFo[/youtube]
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: MJonmind on March 13, 2012, 05:11:31 AM
Tink, you know I totally agree with you about the unsung contributions and involvement of blacks throughout history--a favorite topic of mine to research for years.  I have such respect for you and all your areas of expertise.  The only thing is you are sometimes kinda abrupt and can hurt people's feelings who think you're putting them down. I know you don't mean any harm.  My 2 sons have a very close Jamaican friend, about 24 years old. Super nice, talented guy!  We have often gotten into discussions where he will tell us the racist things whites do and say all the time to him, and he just ignores it. But he says its amazing that whites don't think there's racism anymore, and he totally sees it differently. So I agree it isn't right for whites to just be dismissive and say we're all one, and where is the love.  So I ask you just to be a little more gentle in your words!  Blessings on you!!
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: LoveShyMichael on March 13, 2012, 07:28:16 AM
@Tink....

Go easy on the words of "ignorance". This isn't about "playing a race card"....this is about US, THE HUMAN RACE!  I get the blacks as slaves, but the past is what it is. Me as a white person today, would never treat "any color" as slaves in today's society. But the past is what it is. We living today cannot change any of that. But with the NWO, & our freedoms slipping away, that is the agena of the elites.....MAKE EVERYONE SLAVES!! is that what we want?
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Grace on March 13, 2012, 08:21:24 AM
As well as everybody on this planet is of "mixed" origin because we have a father and a mother, as well each and every country on this planet has experienced slavery at a certain moment of time.

We are not any different.

If somebody doubts this and thinks of Europeans being of superior heritage because Europeans enslaved "conquered" people in foreign territory, this is a starter to read and to understand that Europe and every country in this world has seen oppression, slavery and bloodshed as well.

Palaces are always build on bones and unheard screams.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_medieval_Europe (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_medieval_Europe)

African-Americans are not the only ones.
Slavery is not over either. It is alive in many countries, still today.

Injustice is a deep sea and hurt is the black color in it.


Let us not become stumbling stones in the paths of each other.

Blessings.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on March 13, 2012, 01:31:22 PM
1. VIDEO posted: By TMZ News Today:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84x0EsBRqsE&feature=related[/youtube]


2. Whitney Houston’s Daughter Remembers Mother’s Last Days, Plans Career In Entertainment
http://music.yahoo.com/blogs/hip-hop-media-training/whitney-houston-daughter-remembers-mother-last-days-plans-032433459.html


3. Liza Minnelli Remembers Michael Jackson, Elizabeth Taylor And Whitney Houston On 'The Rosie Show' (VIDEO)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/13/liza-minnelli-talks-mj-liz-taylor-whitney-houston-video_n_1340918.html


4. Michael Jackson Hoax Trials and Tribulations
- part 97 - Drugs, Music Industry & Whitney Houston (IX)


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfJ28_oW9jo&feature=share[/youtube]





ohhh Would someone please urgently send an ambulance to this guy's place?(http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Transports/ambulance.gif)
I just can't understand how some people can be so wrong in their heads and do such mean, crazy & morbid stuff!!! :shock:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yefPR2L05YM&feature=related
Title: She Was Truly Loved By A Real Man
Post by: peacock7 on March 13, 2012, 02:19:29 PM
G'day Mates,

Guys and Gals have you all not been researching Whitney & Kev.  I posted on YouTube (Kev’s speech has almost 1.5 million views) the below.

“Kevin is Brilliant.  He made 2 movies.  Rachel/Frank & Whitney/Kev.  He asked for her for the role in 1988 when he first read script.  Here, (in speech) he mentions the songs first.  Latest quotes from him = I STILL have “IWALY” as my Ringtone.  I wear it as a BADGE OF HONOR & I don’t care who mocks me for it.”  He said, “She was my ONE TRUE LOVE.”  Wake up people!  They were in L.O.V.E.  Why has he had that song as his ringtone since STILL?  That was their song.  Watch the movie again, and the Memories (From 2004 DVD) and Behind the Scenes.”

Wow!  I thought MJ was Brilliant.  But if you research Kevin, he equals MJ as it pertains to their respective areas/fields/careers/gifts.  MJ’s with Music and Kevin with Movies.  MJ was a prodigy of course, but Kev probably was too.  He is from SO-CAL, graduated from Fullerton, and was a year behind me in high school, so I know he was and is still Hip and smooth.  He’s been around and was around when many of us were aware and awakening.  He was 8 years and 7 months older than Whitney.

I go on with some more stuff, but end it with. 

“God Bless Kev Costner.”  Both of these human beings have BEAUTIFUL AND PURE SOULS.  If some of us can see it and feel it about them, couldn’t/wouldn’t they have?  They gave a lot to the world by the way they showed human love and compassion.  Period!  They spent a lot of time together, and more so that they did with their spouses then.  They gazed into each other’s eyes for days on set.  The eyes are the Window to the SOUL.  Their SOULS matched.”

"Finally, they hesitated at times before they looked into each other’s eyes, because they knew when they did, it was over.  They knew that they would fall every time.  I wonder how their goodbye was after filming.  Sweet Dreams Kevin.”

Word!  Please get the 2004 DVD and watch the Memories documentary.  Kevin begins and ends the narration.  He ends it with.  “I am really proud of that movie, and I was proud to introduce Whitney to movies and show her that not only was she my friend, but was also my colleague.  I mean, I Will Always Love Her.”  Awwwww!

Please keep an open mind, because they were not Soul Mates like we may perceive the meaning.  They were TWIN FLAMES.  That is that Multi-Dimensional Soul mirroring.  Like someone posted on the Wall Street Journal Blog, I think it was.  “The Bodyguard was just the beginning.  Thanks for the Dream.”  People are speaking and researching these two all over the Internet.  His speech woke us up.  It made up remember the MAGIC from almost 20 years ago.

I had to shake my head about this, but how about Jermaine Jackson’s old tired butt as it pertains to his co-signing, along with his sisters that he and Whitney had an affair.  He dishonored three women with that admission (even if thru someone else).  His ex wife, Hazel Gordy, whom has never been in the public eye, his present wife and Whitney, just to prove a point to Kevin that Whitney wanted him to leave his then wife for her.  He was calling Whitney a home wrecker.  He said, “I told her, maybe, one day.”  LMAO, if it wasn’t so pitiful.  He must have been (along with Bobby “scrub” Brown and other black men from then and now, jealous of Kevin Costner).  So, it comes out that Whitney was actually singing – ‘Saving All My Love for You’ to Jermaine, and that she has a Jermaine look-a-like in the video.  LOL!  PLEASE man, you treated her as a booty call – and you two barely gazed into each other’s eyes in the dark.  Kevin Costner ain’t worried about your arse.  Your brother Michael is the Brilliant and Gifted one, not you.  Kevin is the Brilliant and Gifted one, not you.

Kevin did a FEATURE FILM with his One True Love - for the entire world to see and connect with.  He looked into her eyes for days.  He recognized, saw and claimed her Soul on a daily basis for six months.  Like she sang – “I can’t run from myself.  There is nowhere to hide.  Your love I remember forever.”  And the WORLD REMEMBERS.  She sang four songs in the movie for Kevin.  Her Soundtrack holds six.  It’s the biggest selling and most loved Soundtrack eva! What you got Jermaine?  LOL!  Your proof that she loved you to pieces consists of a couple of videos where you and she stood there and sang together?  Kevin had her Running to him in a gorgeous flimsy white sheer brilliant thingy, and she was surrounded by Clouds (ironically now in retrospect).  He shared that piece with the world, but don’t get it twisted, for it was and STILL belongs to him.  There is no Frank Farmer.  He is the third producer on the movie.  He is half of the whole of co-stars, and he probably put up some money for the film.  They put up $25M and made $410M.  Wowser!  He could care less about an Academy Award.  Whitney was his Academy Award and vise versa.  LOL!

So sit your jealous self down Jermaine.  You can’t touch Kevin and his accomplishments.  Plus, he was 7 years after you and she did the splits.  It’s like Jermaine threw down the gauntlet to Kevin by declaring that Whitney was in love with him first, and loved him until her passing.  OK, keep thinking she never got over you boy.  Kevin begs to differ.  He knew what they shared.  It lasts an eternity. 

Just like MJ had a black belt, he probably could use a sword also.  Let’s not forget how Kevin threw down in The Bodyguard. He could throw knives, knew Kung-Fu, Kickboxing and Karate – and he had seen that Sumeri movie 62 times – and had swords.  LOL!

You should read some of the comments about these two from all over the net. One person made me laugh by stating – “Move over Spencer Tracy and Katherine Hepburn.  Kevin and Whitney are the Best Love Duo ever.”  No one else could have played Frank Farmer but Kevin (Richard Gere & Robert DeNiro may haps in his day).  I don’t care what Kevin said at the funeral about a lot of guys could have played his role, but NOT.  He made that role work.  He was a strong, solid, hard working, sensitive, kind, and brilliant and some more adjectives as a REAL man (Google Whitney interview from Ebony magazine from back then – she gushes about Kevin). 

Back in 1975, Steve McQueen and Diana Ross may have been good in it, but the technology wasn’t there then.  These two were Magic because of Destiny in my most humbled opinion.

Of course, I’m a Romantic at heart, no question.  There is no way that Kevin considered Whitney as his One True Love unless it was reciprocated, balanced and mutual.  The Love itself is what was/is TRUE, because they blended their Soul Energies, and it was reflected in the movie – as it turned out to be a Masterpiece.  They seemed to become one in the energy of Source and Spirit.  Their love for each other included and is reflected by the Unconditional Love of the Divine Essence.  They are then truly the God and Goddess united in the service of the Flame of Divine Unconditional love and its manifestation on the Planet earth.  This is what these two were sent down here to do.  I truly feel that Kevin knows this.  He also knows about the Mind Rape of Whitney, and there was nothing he could do about it.  He mentions the word ANGER soon in his speech.  He knew. 

Anyway, move over MJ.  Kevin Costner is another, “Who’s Bad?”  He gave soooooooo many clues in the 2004 DVD Memories feature, and he was speaking to Whitney throughout the entire thing.  He was quoted back then stating – “There was a method to my madness.”  I guess so.  He said that he fell in love with Whitney back then (1985 – 1988) from watching her videos.  He admitted that a lot of men were in love with her then.  They say even Tupac wanted to get with her – and Princess Diana wanted to do the Bodyguard II. 
ALL HISTORY is a Current Event after all. 

L.O.V.E. will always Conquer – separation, hate, time, space and death.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on March 13, 2012, 02:42:08 PM
Sorry, I don't quite understand this....

So basically this is meant to throw sh_ t at Jermaine and prove that Kevin Costner was better for Whitney?
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Title: Re: She Was Truly Loved By A Real Man
Post by: SaffaGirl on March 13, 2012, 03:06:00 PM
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G'day Mates,

Guys and Gals have you all not been researching Whitney & Kev.  I posted on YouTube (Kev’s speech has almost 1.5 million views) the below.

“Kevin is Brilliant.  He made 2 movies.  Rachel/Frank & Whitney/Kev.  He asked for her for the role in 1988 when he first read script.  Here, (in speech) he mentions the songs first.  Latest quotes from him = I STILL have “IWALY” as my Ringtone.  I wear it as a BADGE OF HONOR & I don’t care who mocks me for it.”  He said, “She was my ONE TRUE LOVE.”  Wake up people!  They were in L.O.V.E.  Why has he had that song as his ringtone since STILL?  That was their song.  Watch the movie again, and the Memories (From 2004 DVD) and Behind the Scenes.”

Wow!  I thought MJ was Brilliant.  But if you research Kevin, he equals MJ as it pertains to their respective areas/fields/careers/gifts.  MJ’s with Music and Kevin with Movies.  MJ was a prodigy of course, but Kev probably was too.  He is from SO-CAL, graduated from Fullerton, and was a year behind me in high school, so I know he was and is still Hip and smooth.  He’s been around and was around when many of us were aware and awakening.  He was 8 years and 7 months older than Whitney.

I go on with some more stuff, but end it with. 

“God Bless Kev Costner.”  Both of these human beings have BEAUTIFUL AND PURE SOULS.  If some of us can see it and feel it about them, couldn’t/wouldn’t they have?  They gave a lot to the world by the way they showed human love and compassion.  Period!  They spent a lot of time together, and more so that they did with their spouses then.  They gazed into each other’s eyes for days on set.  The eyes are the Window to the SOUL.  Their SOULS matched.”

"Finally, they hesitated at times before they looked into each other’s eyes, because they knew when they did, it was over.  They knew that they would fall every time.  I wonder how their goodbye was after filming.  Sweet Dreams Kevin.”

Word!  Please get the 2004 DVD and watch the Memories documentary.  Kevin begins and ends the narration.  He ends it with.  “I am really proud of that movie, and I was proud to introduce Whitney to movies and show her that not only was she my friend, but was also my colleague.  I mean, I Will Always Love Her.”  Awwwww!

Please keep an open mind, because they were not Soul Mates like we may perceive the meaning.  They were TWIN FLAMES.  That is that Multi-Dimensional Soul mirroring.  Like someone posted on the Wall Street Journal Blog, I think it was.  “The Bodyguard was just the beginning.  Thanks for the Dream.”  People are speaking and researching these two all over the Internet.  His speech woke us up.  It made up remember the MAGIC from almost 20 years ago.

I had to shake my head about this, but how about Jermaine Jackson’s old tired butt as it pertains to his co-signing, along with his sisters that he and Whitney had an affair.  He dishonored three women with that admission (even if thru someone else).  His ex wife, Hazel Gordy, whom has never been in the public eye, his present wife and Whitney, just to prove a point to Kevin that Whitney wanted him to leave his then wife for her.  He was calling Whitney a home wrecker.  He said, “I told her, maybe, one day.”  LMAO, if it wasn’t so pitiful.  He must have been (along with Bobby “scrub” Brown and other black men from then and now, jealous of Kevin Costner).  So, it comes out that Whitney was actually singing – ‘Saving All My Love for You’ to Jermaine, and that she has a Jermaine look-a-like in the video.  LOL!  PLEASE man, you treated her as a booty call – and you two barely gazed into each other’s eyes in the dark.  Kevin Costner ain’t worried about your arse.  Your brother Michael is the Brilliant and Gifted one, not you.  Kevin is the Brilliant and Gifted one, not you.

Kevin did a FEATURE FILM with his One True Love - for the entire world to see and connect with.  He looked into her eyes for days.  He recognized, saw and claimed her Soul on a daily basis for six months.  Like she sang – “I can’t run from myself.  There is nowhere to hide.  Your love I remember forever.”  And the WORLD REMEMBERS.  She sang four songs in the movie for Kevin.  Her Soundtrack holds six.  It’s the biggest selling and most loved Soundtrack eva! What you got Jermaine?  LOL!  Your proof that she loved you to pieces consists of a couple of videos where you and she stood there and sang together?  Kevin had her Running to him in a gorgeous flimsy white sheer brilliant thingy, and she was surrounded by Clouds (ironically now in retrospect).  He shared that piece with the world, but don’t get it twisted, for it was and STILL belongs to him.  There is no Frank Farmer.  He is the third producer on the movie.  He is half of the whole of co-stars, and he probably put up some money for the film.  They put up $25M and made $410M.  Wowser!  He could care less about an Academy Award.  Whitney was his Academy Award and vise versa.  LOL!

So sit your jealous self down Jermaine.  You can’t touch Kevin and his accomplishments.  Plus, he was 7 years after you and she did the splits.  It’s like Jermaine threw down the gauntlet to Kevin by declaring that Whitney was in love with him first, and loved him until her passing.  OK, keep thinking she never got over you boy.  Kevin begs to differ.  He knew what they shared.  It lasts an eternity. 

Just like MJ had a black belt, he probably could use a sword also.  Let’s not forget how Kevin threw down in The Bodyguard. He could throw knives, knew Kung-Fu, Kickboxing and Karate – and he had seen that Sumeri movie 62 times – and had swords.  LOL!

You should read some of the comments about these two from all over the net. One person made me laugh by stating – “move over Spencer Tracy and Katherine Hepburn.  Kevin and Whitney are the Best Love Duo ever.”  No one else could have played Frank Farmer but Kevin (Richard Gere & Robert DeNiro may haps in his day).  I don’t care what Kevin said at the funeral.  He made that role work.  He was a strong, solid, hard working, sensitive, kind, and brilliant and some more adjectives – man (Google Whitney interview from Ebony magazine from back then – she gushes about Kevin).  Back in 1975, Steve McQueen and Diana Ross may have been good in it, but the technology wasn’t there then.  They two were Magic because of Destiny in my most humbled opinion.

Of course, I’m a Romantic at heart, no question.  There is no way that Kevin considered Whitney as his One True Love unless it was reciprocated, balanced and mutual.  The Love itself is what was/is TRUE, because they blended their Soul Energies, and it was reflected in the movie – as it turned out to be a Masterpiece.  They seemed to become one in the energy of Source and Spirit.  Their love for each other included and is reflected by the Unconditional Love of the Divine Essence.  They are then truly the God and Goddess united in the service of the Flame of Divine Unconditional love and its manifestation on the Planet earth.  This is what these two were sent down here to do.  I truly feel that Kevin knows this.  He also knows about the Mind Rape of Whitney, and there was nothing he could do about it.  He mentions the word ANGER soon in his speech.  He knew. 

Anyway, move over MJ.  Kevin Costner is another, “Who’s Bad?”  He gave soooooooo many clues in the 2004 DVD Memories feature, and he was speaking to Whitney throughout the entire thing.  He was quoted back then stating – “There was a method to my madness.”  I guess so.  He said that he fell in love with Whitney back then (1985 – 1988) from watching her videos.  He admitted that a lot of men were in love with her then.  They say even Tupac wanted to get with her – and Princess Diana wanted to do the Bodyguard II. 
ALL HISTORY is a Current Event after all. 

L.O.V.E. will always Conquer – separation, hate, time, space and death.

 /bravo/ /bravo/ brilliant post - Bodyguard is my all time favourite. Any blind fool could see the strong chemistry between Whitney and Kevin (btw I think he is sexy beyond words), sometimes I used to wonder when they came out of character, because at times I thought the feelings they were so trying to hide showed up from time to time. 

I also sat up straight when I read the article where he stated "SHE WAS MY ONE TRUE LOVE" my friend and I tried dissecting this from all angles, arghhhhh we are such romantics. Pity that Kevin was married at the time, and she was seeing the skank Bobby, cant stand him, never have and never will lol - Whitney would still be alive today, had it been pre-destined for her and Kevin to be together. I loved what he said at her funeral :(
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on March 15, 2012, 04:37:27 PM
From this thread: http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/smf2.0/index.php?topic=22364.0

GREAT post as always MJonMInd  /bravo/


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Why would Raffles have wormed his way into Whitney's life before her "death", seeing as we hear she was in deep financial trouble and was going down-hill with drug use, etc.  Even in the party the night before, we see him right with her.  Did he know something was going down ahead of time? This video of Raffles showing HOW he does his sneaky getting into the lives of the celebs, totally reminds me of the RFL video of HOW they made the coroner video of MJ jumping out alive. Why would the family be protecting him, and be okay with him putting the pic in the Enquirer? Unless...this is part of the plan.


My mom, dad, mother-in-law, aunt's funerals were all about 5 days after death, with viewing a day or so before. Already at 5 days with the usual embalming, the skin is starting to look blotchy, plasticy, and eyes and other areas look off.
In Whitney's pic, she looks fresh, beautiful as if sleeping. She died on Feb. 11th, viewing and funeral on the 18th, and viewing and burial on the 19th. 7-8 days later. I smell a rat. IMO photo-shop just like MJ's famous ambu pic sold to the same magazine.


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In the Oprah interview with Bobbi, though she talks of the pain, never once do you see one tear rolling down her face. When my mother suddenly died when I was 21, for a whole year tears were never far away and easily triggered, especially if someone opened me up to my feelings as Oprah did.  Just how can Bobbi hold it together so well?
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on March 16, 2012, 03:44:19 PM
???/ TMZ TIME !! :)

1.
(http://img848.imageshack.us/img848/8581/oprah004.jpg)

http://www.tmz.com/2012/03/11/whitney-houston-pat-sister-oprah-video/#.T2OfX3lWp3A

Whitney Houston's sister-in-law Pat is throwing more fuel on the fire for those people who think Whitney may have been murdered ... saying she does not know how Whitney ended up in the bathtub of her hotel room on the night she died.
As TMZ first reported, the L.A. County Coroner's Office has received phone calls and emails from people claiming to be relatives of Houston ... who say they believe Whitney was murdered.

In an interview with Oprah Winfrey that aired tonight on OWN, Pat described the scene that night, saying, "Don't know how she got [in the tub] ... I just know they had to pull her out of [the tub]."
The Coroner has already said there was no sign of foul play or trauma, but the official cause of death won't be determined until toxicology results are in.

2.
(http://img545.imageshack.us/img545/2404/oprah002.jpg)

http://www.tmz.com/2012/03/06/whitney-houston-bobbi-kristina-oprah/#.T2OfWHlWp3A

Bobbi is telling friends -- Oprah "was loyal to my mom, and never did my mother wrong, or made her look bad. She always looked out for my mom."
As a result, we're told Bobbi feels Oprah would show her the same respect -- not bringing up issues that could potentially show Bobbi in a negative light ... i.e. substance abuse.
According to sources close to Bobbi, Oprah was one of the first people who reached out to her after Whitney passed.
So far, it's unclear if Bobbi is getting paid for the interview -- which airs this Sunday.

3.
(http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/8210/oprah001.jpg)

http://www.tmz.com/2012/03/15/oprah-bobbi-kristina-interview-went-great/#.T2Of5nlWp3B

It was AWESOME ... her Royal O-ness was leaving Drai's at The W Hotel in L.A. ... surrounded by paps ... when our guy Kris took charge and asked about a controversial topic -- her interview with Whitney Houston's daughter.
Oprah came under fire for letting the Houston family off the hook ... especially when Whitney's sister-in-law suggested the singer was murdered.
But O told us, "I think it went really well ... I think people really responded and I think the whole country now got to see how [Bobbi Kristina] feels and what shes going through."
Oprah says she was SHOCKED people criticized the interview ... but explains why she won't let it bother her.
Also ... we asked Oprah about the best way to dump a significant other ... and she had a GREAT answer.
All hail O.

4.
(http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/2866/oprah003.jpg)

http://www.tmz.com/2012/03/11/whitney-houston-bobbi-kristina-oprah-interview/#.T2OfU3lWp3A

Bobbi, along with several Houston family members, sat down with Oprah Winfrey for an interview that aired tonight on OWN.
Bobbi talked about how she still feels her mother's presence in the home she lived in with her in Atlanta, telling Oprah, "Lights turn on and off, and I'm like, 'Mom, what are you doing?'"

5.
(http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/8588/oprah005.jpg)

http://www.tmz.com/2012/03/15/cissy-houston-bobbi-kristina-incest/#.T2OetXlWp3A
http://www.tmz.com/2012/03/14/whitney-houston-bobbi-kristina-pda-kissing-nick-gordon-video/#.T2OjO3lWp3A

Whitney Houston's daughter engaged in some hardcore PDA  -- including a kiss -- with her secret BF yesterday ... a guy who happens to be her pseudo-adopted brother ... and TMZ has the video.
19-year-old Bobbi Kristina was seen in a full-on lip-lock with 22-year-old Nick Gordon during a lunch run in Atlanta Tuesday ... confirming suspicions the two are romantically involved.

As we previously reported, Nick and Bobbi go way back ... when Whitney unofficially "adopted" Nick into the family roughly 10 years ago after learning Nick was having problems at home. He's been living with the Houstons ever since.
Again, Bobbi and Nick share no blood relation ... but we still gotta ask ...

(http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/9916/oprah006.jpg)

http://www.tmz.com/2012/03/15/bobbi-kristina-nick-gordon-engaged-ring-photo#.T2OmOXlWp3A

Whitney Houston's daughter was sporting an interesting piece of jewelry on her ring finger during her PDA-filled stroll with her "adopted" brother this week ... a big, fat ring.
As we previously reported, Bobbi Kristina and Nick Gordon finally went public with their relationship this week ... holding hands and kissing during a lunch date in Atlanta.
Now, with rumors swirling about a possible engagement ... the massive ring on Bobbi's finger isn't doing anything to hint otherwise.
Congrats ... maybe?


6.
(http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/8893/oprah007.jpg)

http://www.tmz.com/2012/03/15/bobbi-kristina-nick-gordon-brother-dating/#.T2OcSXlWp3A

TMZ broke the story ... Bobbi's grandma Cissy Houston saw the video we posted -- showing Bobbi and Nick holding hands and kissing on a lunch run in Atlanta this week -- and told a close friend, "What [Bobbi and Nick] are doing is incestuous."
But Bobbi couldn't care less -- telling friends ... she doesn't give a damn about what Cissy thinks about her controversial relationship ... and because Nick's not her blood brother, she definitely doesn't consider it incest.
As one source put it -- Bobbi "can't please everyone, so she is going to please herself by doing what she wants to do for once."
As for the maybe engagement ring Bobbi was wearing -- we're told she's been mum on what it means ... but cryptically told friends, she and Nick ARE planning a trip to Vegas in the near future.



DOES THIS LOOK LIKE A GRIEVING, SUICIDAL DAUGHTER TO YOU?  :?: fresse/  :shock:
NOT TO ME!  ;)
HAD TO ASK . . .
  geek/
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: applehead250609 on March 16, 2012, 05:47:09 PM
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???/ TMZ TIME !! :)

1.
(http://img848.imageshack.us/img848/8581/oprah004.jpg)

http://www.tmz.com/2012/03/11/whitney-houston-pat-sister-oprah-video/#.T2OfX3lWp3A

Whitney Houston's sister-in-law Pat is throwing more fuel on the fire for those people who think Whitney may have been murdered ... saying she does not know how Whitney ended up in the bathtub of her hotel room on the night she died.
As TMZ first reported, the L.A. County Coroner's Office has received phone calls and emails from people claiming to be relatives of Houston ... who say they believe Whitney was murdered.

In an interview with Oprah Winfrey that aired tonight on OWN, Pat described the scene that night, saying, "Don't know how she got [in the tub] ... I just know they had to pull her out of [the tub]."
The Coroner has already said there was no sign of foul play or trauma, but the official cause of death won't be determined until toxicology results are in.

2.
(http://img545.imageshack.us/img545/2404/oprah002.jpg)

http://www.tmz.com/2012/03/06/whitney-houston-bobbi-kristina-oprah/#.T2OfWHlWp3A

Bobbi is telling friends -- Oprah "was loyal to my mom, and never did my mother wrong, or made her look bad. She always looked out for my mom."
As a result, we're told Bobbi feels Oprah would show her the same respect -- not bringing up issues that could potentially show Bobbi in a negative light ... i.e. substance abuse.
According to sources close to Bobbi, Oprah was one of the first people who reached out to her after Whitney passed.
So far, it's unclear if Bobbi is getting paid for the interview -- which airs this Sunday.

3.
(http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/8210/oprah001.jpg)

http://www.tmz.com/2012/03/15/oprah-bobbi-kristina-interview-went-great/#.T2Of5nlWp3B

It was AWESOME ... her Royal O-ness was leaving Drai's at The W Hotel in L.A. ... surrounded by paps ... when our guy Kris took charge and asked about a controversial topic -- her interview with Whitney Houston's daughter.
Oprah came under fire for letting the Houston family off the hook ... especially when Whitney's sister-in-law suggested the singer was murdered.
But O told us, "I think it went really well ... I think people really responded and I think the whole country now got to see how [Bobbi Kristina] feels and what shes going through."
Oprah says she was SHOCKED people criticized the interview ... but explains why she won't let it bother her.
Also ... we asked Oprah about the best way to dump a significant other ... and she had a GREAT answer.
All hail O.

4.
(http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/2866/oprah003.jpg)

http://www.tmz.com/2012/03/11/whitney-houston-bobbi-kristina-oprah-interview/#.T2OfU3lWp3A

Bobbi, along with several Houston family members, sat down with Oprah Winfrey for an interview that aired tonight on OWN.
Bobbi talked about how she still feels her mother's presence in the home she lived in with her in Atlanta, telling Oprah, "Lights turn on and off, and I'm like, 'Mom, what are you doing?'"

5.
(http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/8588/oprah005.jpg)

http://www.tmz.com/2012/03/15/cissy-houston-bobbi-kristina-incest/#.T2OetXlWp3A
http://www.tmz.com/2012/03/14/whitney-houston-bobbi-kristina-pda-kissing-nick-gordon-video/#.T2OjO3lWp3A

Whitney Houston's daughter engaged in some hardcore PDA  -- including a kiss -- with her secret BF yesterday ... a guy who happens to be her pseudo-adopted brother ... and TMZ has the video.
19-year-old Bobbi Kristina was seen in a full-on lip-lock with 22-year-old Nick Gordon during a lunch run in Atlanta Tuesday ... confirming suspicions the two are romantically involved.

As we previously reported, Nick and Bobbi go way back ... when Whitney unofficially "adopted" Nick into the family roughly 10 years ago after learning Nick was having problems at home. He's been living with the Houstons ever since.
Again, Bobbi and Nick share no blood relation ... but we still gotta ask ...

(http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/9916/oprah006.jpg)

http://www.tmz.com/2012/03/15/bobbi-kristina-nick-gordon-engaged-ring-photo#.T2OmOXlWp3A

Whitney Houston's daughter was sporting an interesting piece of jewelry on her ring finger during her PDA-filled stroll with her "adopted" brother this week ... a big, fat ring.
As we previously reported, Bobbi Kristina and Nick Gordon finally went public with their relationship this week ... holding hands and kissing during a lunch date in Atlanta.
Now, with rumors swirling about a possible engagement ... the massive ring on Bobbi's finger isn't doing anything to hint otherwise.
Congrats ... maybe?


6.
(http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/8893/oprah007.jpg)

http://www.tmz.com/2012/03/15/bobbi-kristina-nick-gordon-brother-dating/#.T2OcSXlWp3A

TMZ broke the story ... Bobbi's grandma Cissy Houston saw the video we posted -- showing Bobbi and Nick holding hands and kissing on a lunch run in Atlanta this week -- and told a close friend, "What [Bobbi and Nick] are doing is incestuous."
But Bobbi couldn't care less -- telling friends ... she doesn't give a damn about what Cissy thinks about her controversial relationship ... and because Nick's not her blood brother, she definitely doesn't consider it incest.
As one source put it -- Bobbi "can't please everyone, so she is going to please herself by doing what she wants to do for once."
As for the maybe engagement ring Bobbi was wearing -- we're told she's been mum on what it means ... but cryptically told friends, she and Nick ARE planning a trip to Vegas in the near future.



DOES THIS LOOK LIKE A GRIEVING, SUICIDAL DAUGHTER TO YOU?  :?: fresse/  :shock:
NOT TO ME!  ;)
HAD TO ASK . . .
  geek/


Simpa thank you for your work  :) .....you are awesome  bearhug !!!!!
This is what I found recently about Whitney and I don't know what to believe anymore  :? :



Dionne Warwick on What She Thinks Killed Whitney
March 13, 2012

(http://www.etonline.com/media/photo/2012/03/23934126/dionne_warwick_grab_640v.jpg)

Dionne Warwick is opening up to ET about the death of her cousin Whitney Houston and reveals what she thinks killed the pop superstar.

When asked what she expects to hear when authorities issue a final cause of death for Houston following the results of toxicology tests, Warwick tells ET's Christina McLarty, "You know, in all honesty, I think she had a heart attack  :shock: , that's what I think happened to her." When asked whether she believed drugs played a role in the death, Warwick added, " I don't know if it's that or not. I think her heart just gave out."

Warwick also spoke about the feelings she had while accompanying Houston's body aboard the plane that transported the Grammy winner back to her native New Jersey. "It was a combination of things, stories, laughter, tears. All the emotions that you feel when somebody very near to you passes."

The singer recounted how she spoke with Houston on the day she died and said she was looking forward to seeing Warwick at Clive Davis's annual pre-Grammy party later that night. "She says, alright, then we're going to have a good time tonight. I said ok, wonderful. She sounded so up and ready..." Warwick told Christina.

"I have not had an opportunity to just let it go. As I said, recording has been a blessing for me. It's taken me out of a reason to just break down. I know it's coming. I know it's going to come soon and I'm looking forward to it. I really am. I want to get it out. I want to have a peace that I know she's enjoying right now."

Warwick also revealed the moment she was summoned to the hotel without knowing the reason. "I got the phone call, my, my youngest son called me and said that Patti just called him and asked where I was. And he says she's here in LA, and in no uncertain terms, get her here to the hotel now and nothing said about anything, but just get her here."

Warwick added, "And when I got there, it was not a pleasant arrival, you know it was just not to be believed and still is not to be believed, I'm still struggling with that, very, very much. That, um, this wonderful young lady is no longer with us, physically, but emotionally, her spirit will run around this world for the rest of our lives and all of those who thought of her in that fashion. They'll always remember her, you know, she was a good girl, she really was a good little girl."

We caught up with Warwick as she worked in the studio on a new album, which remains untitled at this point. However, Warwick is calling it her "50th Anniversary" celebration album that will include some new original songs written for her by Burt Bacharach.
Watch the video for more of Warwick's exclusive interview -- including her thoughts on how Houston's daughter Bobbi Kristina is dealing with the loss -- and tune in to ET tonight for more developments.


http://www.etonline.com/news/119911_Dionne_Warwick_on_What_She_Thinks_Killed_Whitney/index.html (http://www.etonline.com/news/119911_Dionne_Warwick_on_What_She_Thinks_Killed_Whitney/index.html)




Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on March 17, 2012, 11:47:37 AM
Thanks @AppleHead for that link So her aunt is also thinking that Whitney had a heart attack and the toxicology report is still not released. Well...Well...


Funny how just as in Michael's case, also in Whitney's case, the family is doing super fine!
I mean her sister and her daughter just did an interview at Oprah only a month after she died.
Her daughter is seen going shopping and walking around with her boyfriend (adopted son of Whitney ! :shock: ), all smiling and kissing each other.
Then her cousin Dionne is making an album and preparing for a tour on all continents :shock:
I wonder who in that family will be the first to release a book about Whitney? loll  8)


Whitney Houston's Adopted Son Asked Point Blank ... Are You Banging Bobbi Kristina?
http://www.tmz.com/2012/03/16/whitney-houston-nick-gordon-bobbi-kristina-brown/#.T2S_7tlWp3A
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on March 20, 2012, 02:50:10 PM
Media & Entertainment | 3/14/2012 @ 10:48AM
Whitney Houston National Enquirer Death Photo: Who Took It, Sold It?

http://www.forbes.com/sites/rogerfriedman/2012/03/14/whitney-houston-national-enquirer-death-photo-who-took-it-sold-it/

In her interview with Oprah Winfrey on Sunday night, Whitney Houston‘s sister in law Pat said she didn’t care who took the picture of her best friend lying in an open coffin and sold it to the National Enquirer.
 But the photo has upset a lot of people. Who took it? Who sold it to the Enquirer? Forget that the Enquirer did something grievously of no taste. We know what they are.

But who could have done this?

Sources at the Whigham Funeral Home in New Jersey say they know, and they have an employee who saw the person take the picture. The person they’re pointing the finger at is Raffles van Exel, the hanger on I told you about in this column a couple of weeks ago. Van Exel, who has aliases of Raffles Benson and Raffles Dawson, was at the two private viewings of Whitney’s casket held at the Whigham Funeral Home. The first viewing was on the Friday night before the memorial service. The second one was on Sunday morning before the burial.

The people at Whigham noticed van Exel right away. Even though he’s not a member of the Houston family, he traveled with them on the private plane from Los Angeles to New Jersey. He was the only non family member who accompanied Whitney’s sister in law/manager and newly appointed executor Pat Houston in her car to Whitney’s memorial and funeral and to the viewings. According to one source, he even had his own bodyguard with him, which was more than a little unusual. A source from Whigham’s says when the picture appeared on the cover of the Enquirer, they told the Houstons of their suspicions. “They didn’t do anything ab0ut it,” says a source. “They’re protecting him. How come they haven’t gotten him out of their circle?”

The Whighams people are not happy about the Raffles connection. While conducting another funeral in another part of town, of the funeral directors says she was spat upon by a stranger. The funeral home is concerned that fans think they allowed the National Enquirer picture to be taken. They did not. “The Houston family invited everyone into that room. We had no role in that. We were told their security would handle everything. They didn’t give us responsibility for that.” About 35 people came to the first viewing. The Wighams didn’t know everyone. But they know none of their people were involved. Only one of their employees says they witnessed Raffles van Exel take the picture of Whitney in her coffin.

The burial, by the way, did not include $500,000 worth of jewelry. “It was costume jewelry,” says the funeral director. “Please…”

Calls and emails to van Exel have gone unreturned. His voice mail box is full. He answered one of my emails, asking what I wanted, and then didn’t respond again. A second email was replied to, with a blank message. But it’s not the first time van Exel has gone underground.

The famous R&B singer George Benson (“Give Me the Night,” “Turn Your Love Around”) has his own story about Raffles. Around 2005, he says, his lawyer had to send van Exel a cease and desist letter warning him not use the name Benson or describe himself as Benson’s son. George Benson has four living sons, and three deceased. Benson says that around 2004-2005 van Exel had ingratiated himself into Benson’s mansion in Engelwood, New Jersey.

“He was there for a year on or off,” Benson told me. One day, Benson says, van Exel called him and told him to come home; he thought there’d been a robbery. When Benson returned to the house, he discovered $25,000 in cash was missing. He’d taken out of the bank to pay for home repairs. By the time he made the discovery, van Exel had vanished. “We never saw him or heard from him again,” Benson recalls. Without tangible proof, he couldn’t press charges with the local police. van Exel, as I reported in my original story, has sometimes been sued under the name Raffles Benson.

van Exel recently recorded a video explaining the way he gets around Hollywood,which was posted on YouTube. Here it is, in all its glory:

[youtube] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKT1aMJnvGc&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: loveratheart4mj on March 20, 2012, 07:45:18 PM
I just watched Oprahs interview with Whitney Houstons sisterinlaw, brother and Bobby Kristina. Am i feeling this sense of suspicion just because of MJs situation or what?? This interview seemed sincere but there was still parts of it that left me to wonder what exactly they meant. How in the world can Bobbi speak so cheery of her mom without any tears or such. Now her sisterinlaw did cry a few tears so did oprah. But heck so did a few with Mjs death. I cant help but be suspicious. :(  makes me feel bad if shes really gone....
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: MJonmind on March 20, 2012, 09:12:59 PM
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Bobbi Kristina says she can’t bring herself to listen to her mother Whitney Houston’s music just yet…but she says she can “still hear” her mother’s voice talking to her sometimes.

Like on the phone?  Or on skype?
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: msgitm on March 21, 2012, 01:08:04 AM
[youtube] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKT1aMJnvGc&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]
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WOW that Raffles dude is a real shyster!  But clever as he is, I still don’t see how he could get inside the private viewing of a HUGE celebrity when it was just close family and friends in attendance?  Wouldn’t they notice?  Makes me go hmmm???  Guess I’m still half on the fence with this death.  Seems a little too familiar, yet at the same time, a tad more believable.  I hope for Whitney’s sake it’s not true.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on March 21, 2012, 02:26:35 AM
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Bobbi Kristina says she can’t bring herself to listen to her mother Whitney Houston’s music just yet…but she says she can “still hear” her mother’s voice talking to her sometimes.
Like on the phone?  Or on skype?
HeeHee... (http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Rires/c_laugh.gif)(http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Rires/c_laugh.gif)
That's why I love ya MjonMind  bearhug
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Grace on March 21, 2012, 11:39:02 AM
I don't know if I can make myself understood but I can hear my dead family members talking to me as well.
I communicate with living people without a phone or skype, too.
It is an existing power flow that you just need to plug into.
Everybody loving someone dearly will know what I mean.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: paula-c on March 21, 2012, 12:19:48 PM
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I don't know if I can make myself understood but I can hear my dead family members talking to me as well.
I communicate with living people without a phone or skype, too.
It is an existing power flow that you just need to plug into.
Everybody loving someone dearly will know what I mean.




Really?
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Tink on March 22, 2012, 03:16:26 AM
It is said, that demons can pretend to be loved ones, once deceased. That's why we're not to trust info from the other side.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Australian MJ BeLIEver on March 22, 2012, 07:48:35 AM
@ tink - completely agree with your last post!!!! we should stay away from the 'otherside'


great thread. i was in hong kong when i heard of the news of whitney... i so wanted to be on the forum during that time and was thinking of you all as i was watching and hearing as there certainly where a few oddities - so i was dying to get back and get on the forum during the whitney death news. (by the way the hong kong folk took it pretty bad - crying on the street, posters, singing, her music playing everywhere)

glad i made it back - knew it would be covered here and that there would be lots of interesting posts digging up info.

you are all marvelous.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Australian MJ BeLIEver on March 22, 2012, 08:27:03 AM
dont know what i think of this theory personally. just posting a pic i found for this thread. apologies if it has already been posted

(http://www.911truth.ch/whitney_houston_illuminati_conspiracy.jpg)


Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on March 22, 2012, 06:23:11 PM
(http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/5483/image2gddf.jpg)

http://www.tmz.com/2012/03/22/whitney-houston-cause-of-death-drowning-cocaine/#.T2uzDtlWp3A

Officials say Houston also had traces of marijuana in her system ... as well as Xanax (anxiety medication), Flexeril (muscle relaxer) and Benadryl (allergy medication).

A source connected to the investigation tells us it is "very possible" Whitney had a heart attack that caused her to lose consciousness and drown. The heart attack may have been triggered by hardening of the arteries as a result of cocaine use.

As we previously reported, Whitney was found dead in a bathtub at the Beverly Hilton hotel last month and several pills were found on the scene -- including Xanax, Ibuprofen, and Midol.
Investigators found NO EVIDENCE of cocaine in the hotel room.

Law enforcement sources have told us from the beginning they did not suspect foul play -- and believe her death was not a homicide.
Her family however had doubts about Whitney's demise -- suggesting there may have been foul play.
The Houston family has released a statement which says, “We are saddened to learn of the toxicology results, although we are glad to now have closure.” 
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: paula-c on March 22, 2012, 06:37:30 PM
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dont know what i think of this theory personally. just posting a pic i found for this thread. apologies if it has already been posted

(http://www.911truth.ch/whitney_houston_illuminati_conspiracy.jpg)







All of this shit is creepy :?
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: skyways on March 22, 2012, 08:21:31 PM


 

Anderson Cooper right now - Toxicology report official :
drowning , heart desease and cocaine contributed on death of  icon WH.
CNN.
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Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: ilovemjforever on March 22, 2012, 08:35:02 PM
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dont know what i think of this theory personally. just posting a pic i found for this thread. apologies if it has already been posted

(http://www.911truth.ch/whitney_houston_illuminati_conspiracy.jpg)







All of this shit is creepy :?
Agreed,whats really going on.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Grace on March 23, 2012, 01:50:26 AM
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latimes.com
Coroner says Whitney Houston accidentally drowned in bathtub

The singer suffered from cardiac disease and could have had a heart attack before drowning, officials say. Cocaine is listed as a contributing factor in the death.
By Andrew Blankstein and Richard Winton, Los Angeles Times
5:23 PM PDT, March 22, 2012
   
Singer Whitney Houston appears to have suffered a heart episode before accidentally drowning in the bathtub of a Beverly Hills hotel suite, according to coroner's officials who listed cocaine use as a contributing factor.
The autopsy results were released Thursday after weeks of intense speculation over how the 48-year-old pop star died. The case marks another high-profile Hollywood death connected to drug use, coming less than three years after Michael Jackson died suddenly at his Holmby Hills mansion. Jackson's death resulted from use of a surgical anesthetic for sleep, and his doctor was later convicted of involuntary manslaughter.

Houston had battled drug addiction for years, and the coroner's office found traces of several drugs — including marijuana, the anti-anxiety medication Xanax, the muscle relaxant Flexeril as well as Benadryl — in her system. But the coroner's office concluded that those drugs did not contribute to her death.

Cocaine did play a role, though officials would not say how much of the drug was in her system. Craig Harvey, the coroner's operations chief, said the toxicology findings "suggested chronic usage."

"She could have had a heart attack," rendering her unconscious, and then become submerged in the filled tub, said Ed Winter, the coroner's deputy chief for operations.

A law enforcement source said that no cocaine was found in Houston's room at the Beverly Hilton Hotel but that bottles of various medications were recovered. The autopsy found that the singer suffered from a pre-existing condition known as atherosclerotic heart disease.

David Campbell, a retired captain for the coroner's office, said the disease is often linked to blockages of blood flow to the heart.

Use of cocaine and other narcotics would intensify the dangers, he said. Cocaine can constrict blood vessels and reduce blood flow, he said.

In an interview with ABC News in 2002, Houston acknowledged using cocaine as well as marijuana and drinking heavily at times. She strongly denied using crack cocaine.

"Crack is cheap. I make too much money to ever smoke crack," she said in the interview. "Let's get that straight. OK? We don't do crack. We don't do that."

Last May, Houston's spokeswoman said the singer was going back into rehab.

Cocaine has played a role in several high-profile deaths among entertainers. In 1982, John Belushi died of a combined injection of cocaine and heroin known as a speedball at the Chateau Marmont on the Sunset Strip. Fellow "Saturday Night Live" performer Chris Farley died of an accidental overdose of cocaine and morphine in Chicago in 1997.

Unlike in the Jackson case, Winter said no further investigations are planned. Beverly Hills police said detectives will prepare a final report, due to be released in two weeks, after they review the coroner's findings.

Investigators had served subpoenas on doctors as well as at the pharmacies where Houston obtained the prescriptions they found in her hotel room. But officials said they don't believe any of those medications played a role in her death. Authorities did not say how long those drugs had been in her system.

Houston was found submerged in the bathtub of her hotel room the afternoon of Feb. 11 by an assistant.

Beverly Hills Fire Department paramedics performed CPR on the singer for about 20 minutes before pronouncing her dead.

She was in Beverly Hills for music industry titan Clive Davis' annual pre-Grammy party that night at the Hilton. Her death cast a pall over the Grammy Awards, which took place the next day.

In the days before her death, Houston had been acting strangely, skipping around a ballroom, doing handstands near the hotel pool and perspiring heavily. Two days before her death, she dropped by the rehearsals for the pre-Grammy party. A Grammy staffer said that as reporters interviewed Davis and singers Brandy and Monica, Houston was dancing just off camera to make them laugh.

Davis, who discovered Houston and shepherded her recording career, declined through a spokeswoman to comment on the coroner's report.

Houston's family said they hope the autopsy allows them to move on with their lives.

"We are saddened to learn of the toxicology results, although we are glad to now have closure," said Patricia Houston, the singer's sister-in-law and manager, in a statement to the Associated Press.

richard.winton@latimes.com
andrew.blankstein@latimes.com
  Copyright © 2012, Los Angeles Times (http://www.latimes.com/)

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-03-23-whitney-houston-20120323,0,919750.story (http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-03-23-whitney-houston-20120323,0,919750.story)


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A full autopsy report is expected to be released in two weeks.
http://www.suntimes.com/entertainment/music/11472082-421/autopsy-finds-whitney-houston-was-using-cocaine-to-the-end.html (http://www.suntimes.com/entertainment/music/11472082-421/autopsy-finds-whitney-houston-was-using-cocaine-to-the-end.html)
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: MJonmind on March 23, 2012, 03:38:05 AM
Hmm...do any of you know drug addicts with as much drugs in their system as she apparently had, who can swim everyday for 2 hours?


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The autopsy results were released Thursday after weeks of intense speculation over how the 48-year-old pop star died. The case marks another high-profile Hollywood death connected to drug use, coming less than three years after Michael Jackson died suddenly at his Holmby Hills mansion. Jackson's death resulted from use of a surgical anesthetic for sleep, and his doctor was later convicted of involuntary manslaughter.Houston had battled drug addiction for years, and the coroner's office found traces of several drugs — including marijuana, the anti-anxiety medication Xanax, the muscle relaxant Flexeril as well as Benadryl — in her system. But the coroner's office concluded that those drugs did not contribute to her death.Cocaine did play a role, though officials would not say how much of the drug was in her system. Craig Harvey, the coroner's operations chief, said the toxicology findings "suggested chronic usage.""She could have had a heart attack," rendering her unconscious, and then become submerged in the filled tub, said Ed Winter, the coroner's deputy chief for operations.A law enforcement source said that no cocaine was found in Houston's room at the Beverly Hilton Hotel but that bottles of various medications were recovered. The autopsy found that the singer suffered from a pre-existing condition known as atherosclerotic heart disease.



They draw the parallel with MJ drug use, but in his case CM was "later" convicted.  Perhaps similarly, 'someone' will be 'later' convicted in WH's death.  It's like this little train is going down the same track --wait for it, wait for it!  What a dazzling display of drugs found in her body and sprinkled all around the scene, all meant to convince.  Remember MJ's death-bed with its drug-related items showing him as weak, foolish and victim?
Title: FORBES - FRIEDMAN - VAN EXEL
Post by: gwynned on March 23, 2012, 06:01:31 AM
FORBES had the 'exclusive' on the photographer of Whitney in corpse pose.  Raffles van exel.   lolol/ Now Mr. Friedman has a new exclusive.

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Exclusive: I told you last week about the photo of Whitney Houston taken in her coffin and sold to the National Enquirer.  The funeral parlor claimed they had an employee who saw Raffles van Exel, a sort of hanger-on in Whitney’s posse and friend of Pat Houston, her sister in law, take the photo. Now comes word that other pictures that had appeared on TMZ.com, taken right after Whitney died, were also the work of van Exel. One picture, of a body covered with a white sheet being taken out of the Beverly Hilton Hotel on a gurney, was headlined by TMZ as “Whitney on a gurney.”

The tabloid website will be sad to hear they were fooled. A person who was in the hallway (see picture) tells me the “body” under the white sheet was Bobbi Kristina, Whitney’s daughter. She was taken to Cedars Sinai Hospital twice after her mother died. Bobbi Kristina wrapped the sheet over her head so as not to be seen. Unfortunately, when Whitney’s body was removed from the hotel much later, it was not under a sheet, but in an official coroner’s body bag–the blue or back kind you see on TV shows that get zipped up. The only person in the group other than family and Houston’s publicist Kristen Foster (seen on the far left) was van Exel.

Then there were pictures that appeared almost simultaneously on TMZ of Houston’s bathtub, food tray, and food cart from her room. According to my source, only three people had access to Houston’s room at the point those pictures were taken–Pat Houston, her husband, Gary (Whitney’s half-brother), and Raffles van Exel.

van Exel, who may nor may not be in the U.S. legally, has quite a history with celebrities. I’ve told you in prior posts about his relationship to singer George Benson. And that van Exel was claiming to be Chaka Khan’s manager. He also has quite a connection to O.J. Simpson. To be continued…

I can't wait!   mj_bad/

Why is FORBES covering the Whitney death? The bio on the author is interesting:

http://blogs.forbes.com/people/rogerfriedman/

Quote:
About Me

I created and wrote the Fox411 column on Foxnews.com for ten years, from 1999 to 2009, where I broke stories about Michael Jackson and many other celebrities including Rosie O’Donnell, Mariah Carey, Madonna, Anna Nicole Smith, Britney Spears, among others. My long history in celebrity journalism includes writing the “Intelligencer” column at New York magazine, where I was considered the “expert” on OJ Simpson, and editing the now legendary Fame magazine, where I wrote cover stories on Paul McCartney, Whitney Houston, Paloma Picasso, Carly Simon, and dozens of other stars. My articles have appeared in Vogue, The New York Times, The New York Daily News, Redbook, US Weekly, Premiere, the Washington Post, and many other publications.
I also find his stats interesting.

Quote:
My Stats
Followers: 42
Contributor Since: February 2012
Did FORBES always have a celebrity gossip columnist or did he just come on board in time for the Whitney story. 
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Grace on March 23, 2012, 09:37:03 AM
Off topic - additional connections.

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Roger Friedman writes the daily Showbiz411 column (www.showbiz411.com (http://www.showbiz411.com/)). For ten years, from 1999-2009, he was a Fox News correspondent and wrote the Fox411 column at foxnews.com (http://www.foxnews.com/). His credits also include writing the "Intelligencer" column for New York magazine, covering the O.J. Simpson criminal trial for New York, and founding Fame magazine in the late 1980s. He's the co-producer of a documentary film with D.A. Pennebaker and Chris Hegedus called "Only the Strong Survive" (2003) which was an official selection of the Cannes, Sundance, and Telluride film festivals.                  
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/roger-friedman (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/roger-friedman)


Roger Friedman was also the one spreading the rumors of the bathtub overflow the night before Whitney died (we know these rumors may exist but a bathtub overflow is bogus due to standard hotel bathtub excess discharge).
http://www.forbes.com/sites/rogerfriedman/2012/02/12/whitneys-death-an-earlier-incident/ (http://www.forbes.com/sites/rogerfriedman/2012/02/12/whitneys-death-an-earlier-incident/)


Roger Friedman on imdb:
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1132283/ (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1132283/)


Documentary "Only the strong survive":
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0308672/ (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0308672/)


Co-producer of "Only the strong survive": Bob and Harvey Weinstein
Harvey Weinstein made it to international news:
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Paris, France – March 2, 2012 – French President Nicolas Sarkozy has named Harvey Weinstein, Co-Chairman of The Weinstein Company (TWC), a recipient of the 2012 Légion d’Honneur, in recognition of Weinstein’s contributions to cinema and his decades of work producing some of the most highly regarded films of our time. Weinstein was nominated personally by President Sarkozy on July 22, 2011 and will receive the award in a ceremony to take place in Paris.
http://www.showbiz411.com/2012/03/02/harvey-weinstein-getting-highest-french-cinema-award (http://www.showbiz411.com/2012/03/02/harvey-weinstein-getting-highest-french-cinema-award)


Which leads us to
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Tarak Ben AmmarTarak Ben Ammar (born on June 12, 1949 in Tunis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tunis), Tunisia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tunisia)) is an international movie producer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Movie_producer) and distributor, (the owner of French production and distribution company Quinta Communications.) He is famous for his interest in artistic movies, especially when they are related to Mediterranean (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mediterranean) culture or require North African (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Africa) locations. His producing credits include the Franco Zeffirelli (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franco_Zeffirelli) film adaptation of La Traviata (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_traviata_%281983_film%29) and Claude Chabrol (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claude_Chabrol)'s Death Rite (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_Rite). On 19 May 2010, he announced a "strategic relationship" with the Weinstein Company (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weinstein_Company).[1] Ben Ammar became well known in France (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/France) at the beginning of 2004 when he decided to distribute The Passion of The Christ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Passion_of_The_Christ) after everybody else declined. He appeared on television talk shows (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk_show), defending the movie. He is also known as the advisor of international investor Prince Al Waleed Bin Talal Bin Abdul Aziz (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Al_Waleed_Bin_Talal_Bin_Abdul_Aziz), and French businessman Vincent Bolloré (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vincent_Bollor%C3%A9). He was raised in the Muslim (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim) religion.[2]
Ben Ammar currently lives in France, with two of his three sons, Neil and Tarak Jr., and his daughter Sonia. The children currently attend the American School of Paris (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_School_of_Paris) (ASP).
He was formerly a manager of Michael Jackson (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Jackson)'s HIStory World Tour (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HIStory_World_Tour).[3]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarak_Ben_Ammar (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarak_Ben_Ammar)
(http://www.mjfrance.com/actu/artiste/apropos/interviews/tarak.jpg)
 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarak_Ben_Ammar)
http://www.mjfrance.com/actu/artiste/apropos/interviews/tarak.jpg (http://www.mjfrance.com/actu/artiste/apropos/interviews/tarak.jpg)

Tarak Ben Ammar has joined the Board of Directors of The Weinstein Company.

He's been producer of Chabrols "Death Rite", Zefirelli's "Jesus of Nazareth", T. Jones "Life of Brian" and many more.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0069893/ (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0069893/)


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=US&v=jt0soZfmfmU[/youtube]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=US&v=jt0soZfmfmU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=US&feature=youtube_gdata&v=jt0soZfmfmU)

Tarak speaks about the death of Michael and mentions that his children had never seen him on stage before the TII production. I always wondered about that rumor because I cannot imagine Michael NOT rehearsing at home and explaining grown-up kids why he'd be doing this.

I think Tarak is helping out big times. The traces are pointing to Europe again.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfFwlXuXejc[/youtube]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfFwlXuXejc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfFwlXuXejc&feature=youtube_gdata)


About Forbes:
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In 2006, an investment group Elevation Partners (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elevation_Partners) that includes rock star Bono (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bono)[Irish rock band U2] bought a minority interest in the company.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forbes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forbes)
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: gwynned on March 23, 2012, 11:49:55 AM
Grace, thanks for that amazing research.  It would appear that part of Michael's strategy may have been to invest in media outlets and leverage his position to float his own news stories.  We saw that his partner in Kingdom Entertainment bought 7% of FOX and now this possible connection to Forbes. 

If you notice where many of these stories end up, you will also see them on the BBC, Huff Post and MSNBC, and, of course, TMZ. 
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on March 23, 2012, 12:47:00 PM
Excellent info @Grace & @gwynned /bravo/
tks for sharing!!


@Grace: regarding "Only the strong survive" . . .  ;)

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1ci-wRuAGI[/youtube]

Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on March 23, 2012, 01:14:23 PM
OMG! Look what i just found  :shock: :shock: :shock:


The video description: :shock: :shock: :shock:

Elvis Presley and Whitney Houston's cause of life is explored and suggested in this latest miraculous and unbelievable movie featuring superstar Kevin Costner and the late Whitney Houston herself.
Watch it to discover how humans like Oprah Winfrey, Donald Trump, with the help of God 3.0 can make celebrities like the late Elvis Presley, Diana Spencer, Michael Jackson, Whitney Houston, Frank Sinatra, Martin Luther King, Jr., and so on, literally live again as serene magnificent breathing and joyful beings under the majestic sun everybody will fall in love with and celebrate again with great music, beautiful flowers and delightful fanfare.
Watch, then immediately share this message with all your friends through Facebook, Twitter or email... especially with those who are famous all over the world or their families and loved ones. Make dead people live again! RECYCLE DEATH INTO LIFE. Don't believe that other people than you have already known this brand new patented amazing natural recycling process. Educate them now. If you have not seen dead people come back to life as joyful and adorable beings, it only means that not enough people have seen this latest extraordinary and unique movie to grasp the concept and put it into practice.
So, once you have seen it, contact others and cause miracles to happen. Together we can change and make of this world a better and more joyful place for all to live in. Death does not have to be a sad end anymore but may be the beginning of a new serene and magnificent life beneficial to all that are living in the entire universe. It wholly depends on those of us who have a loving heart and an intelligent mind. So, act now and fast. Spread the divine message and take action. Good luck and be well.

And the video is entitled "Elvis Presley ~ FOREST of Life" !!!???  :shock: :shock: :shock:  WTF??

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Weh6bx_HzUA&feature=related[/youtube]
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on March 23, 2012, 01:41:05 PM
I've just watched a big part of the video! geez...it's so freakin' BIZARRE!!!  smiley_spider (http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Confus/3d-yeux-zarbi.gif)
Seems like these guys are using all these celebs names to promote their project/business! it all looks too commercial!!
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: MJonmind on March 25, 2012, 12:45:06 AM
Grace and gwynned, thank you for finding more ways we can see MJ's arranging, investing in, establishing all the probably hundreds/thousands of places, people etc. to orchestrate this whole thing. It's simply extraordinary in its scope!  As time goes on the more I believe TS was pulling our leg about "as few people in it as possible". It appears the number is growing all the time. I'm constantly blown away. afraid/
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: MJonmind on March 25, 2012, 02:21:23 AM

Something is feeling more and more off with Raffles van Exel.  He's beginning to have that Forrest Gump feel, somehow coincidentally getting into pictures and talks with all the important people.  /cook/ suspicious//   Could our Michael be at it again?  Everywhere this Raffles is being hated on now.




(http://i1202.photobucket.com/albums/bb371/lifeisamovie1/MJmurray.jpg)
(http://i1202.photobucket.com/albums/bb371/lifeisamovie1/rafflesvan.jpg)
(http://i1202.photobucket.com/albums/bb371/lifeisamovie1/raffles.jpg)
(http://i1202.photobucket.com/albums/bb371/lifeisamovie1/court-hearings-michael-gives-his-testimony-in-a-21-million-lawsuit-over-canceled-millennium-concerts293-m-57.jpg)




Or maybe Raffles was the ‘mystery’ person that was talked about being in the bedroom with Conrad Murray and 'Michael' on the ‘death’ day.
Maybe there will be another murder trial this time for Raffles van Exel, in the death of Whitney. Again police didn’t do their job and seal the the death scene. ;) 

I just said back a couple of pages that maybe someone would be convicted like in MJ's 'death'. So this is looking possible!
http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/smf2.0/index.php?topic=22175.msg395368#msg395368 (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/smf2.0/index.php?topic=22175.msg395368#msg395368)

Here he is in 2010, appointed as executive advisor to Peter Lamas, innovator in certified organic hair and skin care products.  http://www.prlog.org/10977711-raffles-van-exel-appointed-as-executive-advisor-to-chairman-peter-lamas.html (http://www.prlog.org/10977711-raffles-van-exel-appointed-as-executive-advisor-to-chairman-peter-lamas.html)

He interviewed not only Frank Dileo, Travis Payne, Louis Farrakhan, but also Teddy Riley.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=lXsDSgJsrbA#! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=lXsDSgJsrbA#!)

At 1:25 TR says MJ's a god, a special spirit.  afraid/
In the Frank Dileo interview Raffles wears tape around his right hand pointer fingertip like MJ.

Here Raffles says he’s going to be looking after WH’s daughter.
http:/inevarod.com/2012/02/18/on-the-day-of-her-funeral-dutch-friend-raffles-van-exel-reveals-im-the-one-who-will-be-looking-after-whitney-houston-s-daughter/ (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/smf2.0/http:/inevarod.com/2012/02/18/on-the-day-of-her-funeral-dutch-friend-raffles-van-exel-reveals-im-the-one-who-will-be-looking-after-whitney-houston-s-daughter/)

Here he is at Gala honoring victims of 911.
http://www.prweb.com/releases/2011/9/prweb8798911.htm (http://www.prweb.com/releases/2011/9/prweb8798911.htm)

And here:
http://www.crunktastical.net/2012/03/19/stunt-queen-question/ (http://www.crunktastical.net/2012/03/19/stunt-queen-question/)
http://www.prweb.com/releases/2011/02/prweb5099604.htm (http://www.prweb.com/releases/2011/02/prweb5099604.htm)


In the several pics of him with Michael Jackson, I'm wondering if his face is inserted with photoshop. The height is about right; he's just a bit shorter than Whitney Houston and MJ's a tiny bit taller, but he could now be wearing flat shoes. 
'Something is rotten in the state of Denmark.' :lol:

Please don't call me crazy... bow/
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: applehead250609 on March 25, 2012, 04:00:16 AM
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Grace
« Reply #602 on: February 20, 2012, 11:35:53 PM »

Quote from: applehead250609 on February 20, 2012, 10:58:45 PM

    Message From Jesse Jackson & Raffles van Excel to MJ Fans

    [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czJVJHXPDPI&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]


What is he talking about?

In 7 hours 7 fans have committed suicide  :?: :?: :?:

So this "drive-in" interview in front of a "repack area" at an airport is the reliable source of those web rumors about fan suicides?

 :shock:


Seriously. In the end we read about 12 :mrgreen: not 7.

And we are called "conspirationalists".
Look what they do.

I think I'm gonna go yell in my forest.

You know Grace I think that in the end not even 12 is the correct number lol  lolol/  !!!!!!
Bobby Brown and Whitney Houston had a song together: "We have something in common" geek/ .Well ,"the one" in common in our STORY is Ray J ,  :? lol  ;)) .


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqNzWukBvAo&feature=related[/youtube]

This STORY is getting very very bizzare and also scary  :?  :shock:..........a THRILLER maybe  geek/  :lol:  :?: !!!!!!
So , shortly after 25 june 2009 we had Raffles man talking with Whitney Houston's actual/ex.  smiley_spider boyFriend about 12 Michael Jackson's fans that (supposely) commited suicide.......and 9 were still in hospital  :shock:  :?............  errrr ............anyway is Riff-RAFF crying or what ????  :roll:  WTF??
"We all know what happened,however" ..............  mh,mh,mh argue/  crash/ no we/I DON'T know  :lol:  lolol/ !!!!!
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: MJonmind on March 25, 2012, 04:19:19 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqNzWukBvAo&feature=player_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqNzWukBvAo&feature=player_embedded)


Ray J says, "This is the guy that always brought me around Michael...Whenever you saw Michael Jackson--- Raffles was around. Man. Please believe it..." :shock: suspicious//
If my theory is true and Raffles is Michael, this would be a round-about way of saying it. Looks like he taught Paris well, cry on demand.
Perhaps Morph is at it again. I've also noticed that the hands, ears, and height are exactly the same. 


Do we really know how well MJ can alter his voice and put on an accent and different personality with mannerisms. We've seen his ability with the Mayor and Dave-Dave for sure, maybe also Casketman, and maybe Murray in the youtube message to supporters.  Also he likes the character "Morph" best of all because, "he can be all things."


In this video of Teddy Riley and Raffles, TR is sure smirking a lot for a couple of days after MJ's 'death'. He says MJ spirit is right here... like he's right beside you. suspicious// If Raffles is MJ, that would make sense.  Wow he looks like he wants to bust out laughing. ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=lXsDSgJsrbA#! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=lXsDSgJsrbA#!)




12 fans, and later we were told it wasn't true, that none had died.  Was it said to increase shock value? 
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Grace on March 25, 2012, 05:37:18 AM
Thanks for mentioning all those hidden sources.
Digging this up is not easy as the web has a - wanted - very short memory.

Old stuff is interesting though:

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Raffles van Exel To Executive Produce Video for KonLive/Interscope Recording Artist Colby O'Donis
May 13, 2009
Hollywood, CA (mi2n) May 13, 2009 --
Raffles Entertainment President, Raffles van Exel and V.P. Stuart Bullard, have signed on as Executive Producers for KonLive/Interscope recording artist Colby O'Donis new music video production entitled "Let You Go." The music video is directed by comedian/actor Kel Mitchell. Kel Mitchell is best known for his work as a regular cast member on the Nickelodeon sketch comedies "All That," "The Kenan & Kel Show," and for his starring role in Paramount Pictures 1997 hit, "Good Burger."

 Colby O'Donis first single, "What You Got" featuring Akon, was released in February 2008. In April 2008, he was featured on the global number one smash hit "Just Dance" alongside KonLive recording artist, Lady GaGa. Colby's debut album "Colby O" was released later that year and went on as an opening act for New Kids on the Block. O'Donis received a Grammy Award nomination for Best Dance Recording for his contribution on Lady GaGa's "Just Dance." Akon's song "Beautiful," which features O' Donis, reached number one on Billboard's top 100 in the USA and is top 40 and climbing on the European music charts.


 Raffles van Exel, European Actor and Producer hailing from Amsterdam, The Netherlands founded Raffles Entertainment, LLC., Max Records, Inc., and Artist For Global Unity, a chartible organization. Mr. van Exel is an entertainment consultant having guided some of the worlds most acclaimed artists, such as the King of Pop Michael Jackson, Whitney Houston, Patti LaBelle, Lance Bass (Founding member of iconic pop group, N'Sync), George Benson, and the late Ray Charles. Raffles van Exel has produced albums for The Queen of Salsa - the late and great Celia Cruz, funk pioneer George Clinton, gangsta rap icon and actor Ice-T, and a host of other artists.
http://um2n.mi2n.com/pr.php3?id=119755 (http://um2n.mi2n.com/pr.php3?id=119755)



Who is Raffles Entertainment Vice President Stuart Bullard?
An employee of "
Beverly Hills Rent A Car" at Marina del Rey.

Quote
    My Profile     
(http://fast1.onesite.com/suitepage.com/user/stuart/profile.jpg?type=user&ts=0218-1115) (http://www.suitepage.com/stuart/gallery/)
Stuart Bullard    
Mood:
   thankful   
Status: Believe in yourself!   
Updated:               
Tuesday, Jun. 24 - 12:26 PM   
Location: Beverly Hills   
Company Name   Beverly Hills Rent A Car / Raffles Ent.
   
Title   Entertainment Director / Vice President
   
Company E-mail   bullard.stuart@gmail.com
   
Company Phone Number   818-632-6688
   
Company Address   4363 Lincoln Blvd. Marina Del Rey, Ca.
   
Company Website   www.bhrentacar.com (http://www.bhrentacar.com/)
   
Work History   Producer, Writer, Composer, Scorer, Musician, Artist, GM, Entertainment Director, Exotic Car Sales and Customizations, Motorsports Racing, Car and Picture Studio Rentals.
http://www.suitepage.com/stuart (http://www.suitepage.com/stuart)



Mr. van Exel appears to be an octopus, stretching in between entertainment and pharma / beauty industry:

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Christine Heathman to Present Breakthrough GlyMed Plus Products in Australia 
Presentation of GlyMed Plus Products to Professionals in Medical and Skincare Industries; Congratulates Chaka Khan for Hollywood Walk of Fame Honor

Hollywood, CA (PRWEB) May 19, 2011 
Christine Heathman, Master Aesthetician, CEO and Founder of GlyMed Plus and the GlyMed Plus Institute of Skin Science™ will be making an encore visit to Australia, and will be presenting the latest breakthrough science on professional-only skin care to Beauty Therapists, Nurses and Physcians.This exclusive advanced science education taught by Ms. Heathman will focus on skin DNA repair, stem cell renewal and antioxidant age management remedies. Ms. Heathman will feature new products such as the GlyMed Plus Retinol Restart serum, Cream and Vitamin A Power Peel, GlyMed Plus DNA Reset Face & Neck Cream, Stem Cell Renewal Skin Serum, Chocolate Facial Mask and advanced GlyMed Plus professional skin peeling products and techniques. The event will include live demonstrationsThis sold out - two day advanced course will be held at the Bayview Eden Hotel in Melbourne Australia May 23 & 24, 2011 and is sponsored by GlyMed Plus Australia. Beauty therapists and medical skin specialists from New Zealand, Australia and Asia will be in attendance.Ms. Heathman states, "I am so excited to be back in Australia and see all of my friends from down under. Australia and New Zealand are so much on the cutting edge of advanced skin care and GlyMed Plus has become the most popular professional skin care product in these countries. It is so exciting!"Christine Heathman also made a stop in Los Angeles before her trip to Australia to congratulate her good friend, soul superstar Chaka Khan. Chaka Khan was presented with a star on Hollywood's Walk of Fame on May 19, 2011. "Chaka Khan is the true definition of a diva. It was my pleasure to stand in support of my dear friend and this honor was long overdue." States Christine Heathman. "Congratulations Chaka! Many more honors and accolades are to come. You deserve them, diva!!"About Christine HeathmanChristine Heathman, CEO and Founder of GlyMed Plus/Advanced Aesthetics is the innovator behind GlyMed Plus Purely Professional products which are used in spas & medical clinics all over the world. Christine is skin care advisor to many Hollywood celebrities who use her fantastic, high end, professional only products. Christine has appeared as a guest expert on The Doctors and on Lifetime TV Channel’s The Balancing Act. GlyMed Plus/Advanced Aesthetics offers a complete range of professional only products, combining technologically advanced ingredients with certified organic botanicals to produce amazing results. To find out more about Christine Heathman and her skin science message, please visit http://www.christineheathman.com (http://www.christineheathman.com/).

Contact: pr(at)rafflesentertainment(dot)com
###
http://www.prweb.com/releases/2011/5/prweb8462765.htm (http://www.prweb.com/releases/2011/5/prweb8462765.htm)
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on March 25, 2012, 08:21:04 AM
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[...]
'Something is rotten in the state of Denmark.' :lol:

Please don't call me crazy... bow/
OMG! you're not crazy! you're adorable and incredibly smart and gifted! Wow! you really amazed me today with your awesome posts all over the forum! Great links, great connections! your Morph theory is mind-blowing and very possible and "do-able"!! Michael can do the impossible! I'm sure of that!! 
Thanks for everything!!  bearhug

Grace, you also come up with a lot of interesting stuff and help us understand so much, love you!  bearhug
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: MaryK on March 25, 2012, 08:51:18 AM
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'Something is rotten in the state of Denmark.' :lol:
Please don't call me crazy... bow/

To Be or not to Be: That is the question!  :lol:

Hang on in there  bearhug

Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: MJonmind on March 26, 2012, 03:26:31 AM

Phew! I thought I'd get shot down in flames!


(http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lw04lsw0Np1qz5q5o_1323543591_cover.jpg)




I'm just putting out some possibilities, that may or may not have anything to them!


There seems to be a growing list of mysterious characters/people in Michael’s hoax, that ALMOST appear to come out of no-where, with a murky past, and they do very weird unexplainable things. albino/ :ugeek: 8-) fresse/ geek/


Conrad Murray, Tohme Tohme, Raffles, a couple of guys running that Globalive company, the guy working on the Never can say goodbye book with Katherine, and more I can't think of now. Are they simply characters born in MJ's head?
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: LoveShyMichael on March 29, 2012, 01:30:52 PM
I find it amazing how the " prescription medication " is downplayed as not a factor in her death. But of course the illegal drugs would be. I'm not at all saying cocaine is healthy.  But the synetheic drug DID PLAY A FACTOR ALSO. But of course lets keep BIG PHARMA out of this one. Make it sound like BIG PHARMA drugs aren't at all considered to be bad. What a joke.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: paula-c on March 29, 2012, 02:22:42 PM
I can't publish the full message
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: LoveShyMichael on March 29, 2012, 05:01:07 PM
Whitney Houston cause of death cover-up? Coroner changes story, blames cocaine, not pharmaceuticals
         

Mike Adams
Natural News
March 25, 2012

There’s something afoot in the changing story about what actually killed Whitney Houston. According to the official coroner’s report that was recently released, Whitney Houston died from drowning and cocaine was a “contributing factor.” All the other prescription drugs found in her system were dismissed as being totally unrelated to her death.


Really? Isn’t it interesting that police found no cocaine in her hotel room, yet they found at least four different prescription drugs, including “…a plethora of sedatives including Lorazepam, Valium, Xanax, and a sleeping medication that was found in her hotel room,” according Radar Online (http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2012/02/drugs-whitney-houston-h…).

Isn’t it also interesting that Whitney Houston’s family was previously told the cause of death was “a combination of prescription drugs and alcohol,” according to TMZ (http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/13/whitney-houston-cause-of-death-prescrip…).

Houston’s reported public behavior the night of her death is also entirely consistent with the acknowledged side effects of taking psychiatric drugs. Those side effects include:

• Aggression
• Rage and hostility
• Twitches and tremors
• Mania, agitation
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xanax#Adverse_effects)

Cocaine is the scapegoat for a far more complex chemical problem

The mainstream media, however, routinely downplays any negative reports about prescription drugs, especially since the media gets a huge share of its revenues from drug company advertising. So it’s no surprise that the pharmaceuticals are now getting downplayed in the reporting of all this. It’s much easier to blame the death on an illicit street drug — cocaine — and then use that to further fund the wildly failed “War on Drugs” which fills our nations prisons with completely innocent pot smokers.
A d v e r t i s e m e n t
What are your thoughts on all this? There’s no question that Whitney Houston used cocaine in her life, but does cocaine cause you to pass out and slip quietly under the water? That sounds a lot more to me like a toxic interaction betweenLorazepamand alcohol. Think about it: Cocaine makes people amped up and energetic. But Lorazepam is a downer that can put you right to sleep. PubMed says: “Lorazepam is used to relieve anxiety. Lorazepam is in a class of medications called benzodiazepines. It works by slowing activity in the brain to allow for relaxation.” (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0000560/)

That same page offers this stern warning: “This medication may make you drowsy. Do not drive a car or operate machinery until you know how this medication affects you.”

The side effects of the drug include irregular heartbeat and drowsiness. Wikipedia’s coverage of the drug includes this warning about the drug’s side effects:

“Sedation is the side effect that most patients complain of. In a group of around 3500 patients treated for anxiety, the most common side effects complained of from lorazepam were sedation (15.9%), dizziness (6.9%), weakness (4.2%), and unsteadiness (3.4%). Side effects such as sedation and unsteadiness increased with age. Cognitive impairment, behavioral disinhibition and respiratory depression as well as hypotension may also occur.” (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorazepam#Adverse_effects)

Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Australian MJ BeLIEver on April 01, 2012, 10:16:21 AM
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Whitney Houston cause of death cover-up? Coroner changes story, blames cocaine, not pharmaceuticals
   

hmmmmm. I wonder who he got a phonecall/paycheck from......    :icon_rolleyes: :icon_rolleyes: :icon_rolleyes: :icon_rolleyes:

 :animal0017: :animal0017: :animal0017: :animal0017: :animal0017: :animal0017:
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: gwynned on April 02, 2012, 10:15:19 PM
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Whitney Houston cause of death cover-up? Coroner changes story, blames cocaine, not pharmaceuticals
   

hmmmmm. I wonder who he got a phonecall/paycheck from......    :icon_rolleyes: :icon_rolleyes: :icon_rolleyes: :icon_rolleyes:

 :animal0017: :animal0017: :animal0017: :animal0017: :animal0017: :animal0017:

I thought the coroner issues an official report not a 'story.'  And I doubt that they change their official report very often, if ever.  This is definitely a circus!
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: suspicious mind on April 02, 2012, 11:38:19 PM
http://movies.yahoo.com/blogs/movie-talk/exclusive-whitney-houston-last-role-unveiled-first-sparkle-154741469.html


hope it isn't already here . if so i apologize , too sleepy to check right now. :-[
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Grace on April 03, 2012, 12:17:06 AM
This is the trailer (length 2:34)
 
 [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vsVM4arCCs[/youtube]
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vsVM4arCCs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vsVM4arCCs)
 
 
 on IMDb:
 http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1876451/ (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1876451/)
 
 
 
Quote
When dreams fall apart family holds us together.

 
 And who is this at 1:33?
 
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on April 04, 2012, 05:56:17 PM
Thanks @ Chappie for this link: http://tmz.vo.llnwd.net/o28/newsdesk/tmz_documents/0404_whitney.pdf



 :thjajaja121: the name trick again!!! lmao  :icon_lol:

WHITNEY is ALIVEEEEE :penguin:

Aron vs Aaron
Joe vs. Joseph
Elizabeth vs Elisebeth  :icon_lol:

Either all the coroners are semi-analphabets OR this is what we know it is: a HOAX! a BIG GIANT, GENIUS FREAKIN' HOAX!!!   :woohoo2:
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: likemike on April 04, 2012, 07:20:56 PM
Another thing I noticed about the autopsy report is it says she was 66in in height which is 5ft5. If you google Whitney Houston's height...every page will tell you 5Ft8!!!  :WTF:  And I doubt she weighed 151lbs either!  :omg:
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Tink on April 04, 2012, 07:31:36 PM
Hey! What's wrong with a gal adding a few inches to their height? People will think we're taller, and give us more jobs! It sometimes gets down to that point. Bravo, Whitney - you fooled them all!  ;)
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: MJonmind on April 05, 2012, 03:27:13 AM
In pics she always looks about 1 - 2 inches shorter than MJ, who is 5'9" to 10", giver or take height of heels.

In the coroner's report, it mentions that Whitney's assistant told her she should take a bath, and closed the locked door after her to do errands. Yet they are saying cocaine, alcohol, and all these other prescription drugs were laying around. Is that assistant purely daft? Where did she take her training?  :icon_pale:  If someone I was caring for was totally doped up, a bath is the last thing I would suggest.
http://tmz.vo.llnwd.net/o28/newsdesk/tmz_documents/0404_whitney.pdf
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Andrea on April 05, 2012, 11:41:07 AM
Good points MJonmind.  Plus, hadn't Whitney ordered 2 meals right before her bath? I didn't think people who are coked up have an appetite, let alone enough for 2 meals.  I'm no expert but I don't think coke gives someone the munchies...
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on April 05, 2012, 02:44:16 PM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZSJUsERgLo[/youtube]

"Jermaine Jackson's sister La Toya confirms that her brother and the late Whitney Houston had a secret affair: "He has admitted to having an affair." Watch full episodes of your favorite show at http://www.cbs.com/shows/the_talk/video/ "
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on April 05, 2012, 03:14:15 PM
Great video!!
I love their complicity!  :icon_e_biggrin:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQAgC2Yo9bE&feature=related[/youtube]
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: suspicious mind on April 05, 2012, 04:01:23 PM
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Great video!!
I love their complicity!  :icon_e_biggrin:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQAgC2Yo9bE&feature=related[/youtube]

that last statement: i remember that prayer is the key to the kingdom . were we not talking about keys a while back?
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: hesouttamylife on April 05, 2012, 05:53:00 PM
I don’t see anything definitive indicating  the cause of Whitney’s death.  It’s all SPECULATION.   :Pulling_hair:  Did it take that long to give us that?  :icon_rolleyes:
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: paula-c on April 05, 2012, 06:41:34 PM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLZ7Vn5M_4c&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]

















http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLZ7Vn5M_4c&feature=player_embedded
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: MJonmind on April 06, 2012, 03:44:36 AM
And Jermaine with Sharon Osborne too. That boy gets around. LaToya says, "I'm not sure if he was completely married."  :icon_lol:
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: LoveShyMichael on April 08, 2012, 11:42:23 AM
With all the garbage that goes around about celebrities, who can keep what straight? I'm not at all swayed by Michael's death hoax. But Whitney Houston I feel is really dead. I know some of us here feel different that it's part of the Michael hoax, but I don't feel that way. It's only my opinion. I do read everyone's theory on her death, but the whole grieving, & autopsy being about the same length it would take for an autopsy. The only think I feel is being downplayed is the BIG PHARMA DRUGS. They playing it off as a street drug that caused death.

Which I'm not suprised, guard BIG PHARMA at all costs. Any race, any person, any child, any celebrity, it's all the same to BIG PHARMA.

NO ONE needs synthenic drugs in their system. That's where the havoc is caused on the organs & heart. Our bodies ARE NOT meant to filter those drugs.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: jam4truth on April 12, 2012, 05:12:25 AM
According to TMZ the BHPD closed the case... and they released a 911 Call (see link at the bottom)


Whitney Houston No Foul Play in Death Accidental Drowning


Whitney Houston died from an accidental drowning, and there was no foul play involved, according to the Beverly Hills Police Dept. which just closed the case.

The BHPD has been investigating Whitney's death since Feb 11 -- 2 months ago to the day.

As we reported, the BHPD never believed anyone took cocaine from her hotel room because they found the cocaine residue and powder inside Whitney's room at the Beverly Hilton hotel in Beverly Hills.

Cocaine was a contributing factor in the singer's death ... so says the L.A. County Coroner.


TMZ has obtained the 911 call placed moments after Whitney Houston was found dead in a bathtub at the Beverly Hilton Hotel -- click here for the audio (http://www.tmz.com/2012/04/11/whitney-houston-911-call/).


source: http://www.tmz.com/2012/04/11/beverly-hills-pd-no-foul-play-in-whitney-houston-death/ (http://www.tmz.com/2012/04/11/beverly-hills-pd-no-foul-play-in-whitney-houston-death/)


Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: ~Souza~ on April 12, 2012, 06:03:10 AM
Okay, I haven't followed this for a few days, but something is weird. Wrong middle name (EliSEbeth vs EliZAbeth). I have a feeling it should be EliSAbeth, but that's just me. Her height is off. She is said to be 5'8" at least (which is not THAT tall), and at the memorial/funeral someone said she was 5'10", which corresponds with Jermaine's comment in his book that she was a tall woman, and the pictures of Whitney next to Michael who is around 5'10"/5'11". So if the AR says 5'5" and Elisebeth, then the AR is not about Whitney.

I just saw on TMZ that the 911 call talks about a 46-year-old woman. Whitney was 48. So everyone in Californaia has to go back to school, or this is another hoax.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Australian MJ BeLIEver on April 12, 2012, 07:29:59 AM
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Okay, I haven't followed this for a few days, but something is weird. Wrong middle name (EliSEbeth vs EliZAbeth). I have a feeling it should be EliSAbeth, but that's just me. Her height is off. She is said to be 5'8" at least (which is not THAT tall), and at the memorial/funeral someone said she was 5'10", which corresponds with Jermaine's comment in his book that she was a tall woman, and the pictures of Whitney next to Michael who is around 5'10"/5'11". So if the AR says 5'5" and Elisebeth, then the AR is not about Whitney.

I just saw on TMZ that the 911 call talks about a 46-year-old woman. Whitney was 48. So everyone in Californaia has to go back to school, or this is another hoax.

ooh yeah, there are details wrong all over the place on this one... funny thing general public and media arent even picking up on it... no its up to us *crazy hoaxers* as usual to identify and see the inconsistencies... the rest of them are blind!

wiki says elizabeth... i have always thought it was elizabeth not elisabeth. yet eitherway you are right, with the AR as Elisebeth, thats way off as its a completely a different name... no not whitney on the table... not whitneys AR....

Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: RK on April 14, 2012, 03:57:15 AM
Couldn't see this posted anywhere else.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuHjaMVFRQc&feature=player_embedded#! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuHjaMVFRQc&feature=player_embedded#!)
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuHjaMVFRQc&feature=player_embedded#![/youtube]
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48 - Whitney knew about artherosclerotic
Post by: Tink on April 14, 2012, 04:49:24 PM
Of course, you could chalk it up to human error. Potato, Potatoe. Measurements in high heels, then measured without them.

You know what really gets to me? WHITNEY KNEW ABOUT the artherosclerotic heart disease! It was there, on the bloody damn blood work, and WHY she was denied the plastic surgery!! She needed to radically change her life style, eating choices. She was WARNED, and you simply cannot deny this one, everybody!!

Why does everyone skip over this piece of evidence!?

Because that's exactly how I found out about mine: blood work. I'm working hard to reverse mine, while it's early. It's claimed a few of my family members...including my father.

High cholesterol, fatty foods foods, Cocaine - pick your poison, when mixing with artherosclerotic heart disease!

Cocaine has deadly, deadly consequences - and everyone is ignoring how and why! This is why it fell out of party favor. Only those with addiction, thinking they can control the beast continue through today, dancing with this devil - until it takes them away from their loved ones.

"Cocaine -- whether snorted, smoked or injected -- affects the heart by causing increased or irregular heartbeat and constricted blood vessels. These conditions can lead to several serious or even fatal outcomes:

Heart attack, cardiac arrest and sudden death
Myocarditis, or heart muscle damage leading to heart failure
Endocarditis, or inflammation of the heart lining
Vascular thrombosis, or clots in the coronary arteries
Pulmonary edema, or fluid in the lungs
Dilated cardiomyopathy, or enlarged heart

While those with heart disease are particularly susceptible to these consequences, they can easily occur in someone with no history of coronary difficulty.


Making a Bad Situation Worse

As harmful as cocaine use is for the heart, it's even worse when combined with cigarettes and alcohol. Cocaine and smoking each exacerbate the other's ability to elevate the heart rate and constrict blood vessels. Cocaine paired with alcohol prompts the liver to make cocaethylene, a substance that steps up cocaine's potential to cause heart strain and sudden death.

Cocaine usually impacts the heart within 18 hours of use, but its effects may be seen immediately or up to four days later. Signs of heart problems caused by cocaine use often include chest pain, trouble breathing, anxiety, palpitations, dizziness and nausea.

Medical personnel need to know when cocaine is involved in a heart-related situation as the presence of the drug can change the course of treatment. Intravenous benzodiazepines -- not given in other heart emergencies -- can minimize cocaine's stimulation and therefore its heart-damaging effects."
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: paula-c on April 14, 2012, 07:29:53 PM
I feel that She go
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Tink on April 16, 2012, 11:32:40 PM
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I feel that She go

@paula - I'm sadly afraid so. I believe we were privileged to hear her, be touched by her. For angels take many forms - we will never truly know.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on April 17, 2012, 12:11:56 AM
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I feel that She go
@paula - I'm sadly afraid so. [...]
Oh yeah, me too! Now more than ever! lol  ELISEBETH is gone! surely!  :icon_geek: And so are Joseph and Aaron!  :icon_albino:


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Thanks @ Chappie for this link: http://tmz.vo.llnwd.net/o28/newsdesk/tmz_documents/0404_whitney.pdf (http://tmz.vo.llnwd.net/o28/newsdesk/tmz_documents/0404_whitney.pdf)

 :thjajaja121: the name trick again!!! lmao  :icon_lol:

WHITNEY is ALIVEEEEE :penguin:

Aron vs Aaron
Joe vs. Joseph
Elizabeth vs Elisebeth  :icon_lol:

Either all the coroners are semi-analphabets OR this is what we know it is: a HOAX! a BIG GIANT, GENIUS FREAKIN' HOAX!!!   :woohoo2: 
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Adi on April 17, 2012, 01:39:18 AM
I agree...something still isn't sitting right about the apparent death of Whitney. I am going to be interested to see what happens. There are too many strange "coincidences" starting to mount.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: MJonmind on April 17, 2012, 04:11:22 AM
No new info on WH coming right now, so it's a 'keep watchin' mode time for me.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on April 17, 2012, 07:22:55 AM
On February 19th I posted the Weird List on Whitney's "death" (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/index.php?topic=22175.525), which was nothing more, nothing less than a collection of all our common sense observances and thoughts since day 1! Were we 100% correct? Of course not! Who ever claimed that we were 100% correct or right!? (certain started to look for faults and mistakes in my Weird List, as if I was intentionally posting them! I corrected them of course, but it bothered me to see how rather than noticing the obvious, people prefer making insinuations, mocking and criticizing the imperfections of our investigations, those on Michael included!). Unfortunately, some people spend their time doing that ... others, like we, here, spend their time noticing and highlighting what was WRONG (weird) in this "Whitney-death-picture" !! Who are "they"/we to judge what others do/think???


After I posted that Weird List, I was called paranoid, delusional and "funny" on this forum and on other blogs/sites, too! Just like that, only for our/my opinions and for believing since day 1 that Whitney's 'death" was just another piece of the bigger HOAX-puzzle.
Now tell me, in our turn: How should we call all these people who make so many mistakes on official, legal documents? How should we call people who still refuse to SEE what's happening??


Souza, well resumed all the latest/recent WEIRD stuff going on in Whitney's case.
Souza, expect to be called paranoid! :icon_geek:

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Okay, I haven't followed this for a few days, but something is weird. Wrong middle name (EliSEbeth vs EliZAbeth). I have a feeling it should be EliSAbeth, but that's just me. Her height is off. She is said to be 5'8" at least (which is not THAT tall), and at the memorial/funeral someone said she was 5'10", which corresponds with Jermaine's comment in his book that she was a tall woman, and the pictures of Whitney next to Michael who is around 5'10"/5'11". So if the AR says 5'5" and Elisebeth, then the AR is not about Whitney.

I just saw on TMZ that the 911 call talks about a 46-year-old woman. Whitney was 48. So everyone in Californaia has to go back to school, or this is another hoax.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: msgitm on April 17, 2012, 01:21:57 PM
Haven't had a chance to read all of you comments but Whitney Houston (imo) was at least 5'10 - she was tall!!! The weight thing is odd too - I don't believe she was 151 lbs but she clearly gained weight since her younger years.  Oddly, in her coffin she's back to rail thin - just like Elvis. Hmmm...
One thing that really popped out to me in the AR, other than the height/weight/middle name, there was a Fedora found in her room on the computer tower.  What the heck?  Sorry if this has been talked about already but I find this really weird.  Never seen Whitney in a Fedora before.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: diggyon on April 17, 2012, 04:38:42 PM
@Sim,
just wanted to tell you that I enjoy your posts very much     :smiley_abuv:. Just keep posting and forget about those who are mocking and criticizing because you will find this kind of people everywhere,  not only on the forum. You're a great hoaxer and a great investigator, no doubt. Please remember that there are many members on this forum who think this way. Keep up the spirit.  :elvis-1405: :elvis-1405:.
(I know you love Elvis. That's why i am sending you  t w o  Elvis, not only one  :LolLolLolLol:)
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on April 17, 2012, 04:44:04 PM
@diggyon: thank you! much appreciated! I'm sending you Teddy-bear kisses  :icon_e_wink: (http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Amour/ourson-amour-9215.gif)

[you sent me the twins Aron and Garon  :icon_e_wink: :icon_lol: ]
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on April 17, 2012, 04:50:59 PM
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Haven't had a chance to read all of you comments but Whitney Houston (imo) was at least 5'10 - she was tall!!! The weight thing is odd too - I don't believe she was 151 lbs but she clearly gained weight since her younger years.  Oddly, in her coffin she's back to rail thin - just like Elvis. Hmmm...
One thing that really popped out to me in the AR, other than the height/weight/middle name, there was a Fedora found in her room on the computer tower.  What the heck?  Sorry if this has been talked about already but I find this really weird.  Never seen Whitney in a Fedora before.
Thank you for adding this! It hasn't been yet discussed! You made some very interesting observations! (http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Respect/victoire-584.gif)
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Tink on April 17, 2012, 09:40:14 PM
Didn't her daughter wear the fedora, or Raffles?
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: MJonmind on April 18, 2012, 05:27:47 AM
Msgitm, here’s WH with a white fedora.  Can you tell us more about this hat found in the tower?

(http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQYnEaWKUvl_yu-kAo90uiQGArtKXPyQJFOlMLXXlDLHjCLJnFMDw)

Simpa, you've got my full support. Someone's got to forage ahead when we're exploring new territory. (http://www.forumsextreme.com/images/sFun_thewave.gif)
Let the naysayers wag their tongues all they want. :argue:
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on April 18, 2012, 03:34:24 PM
@MjonMind: thank you for always holding my hand (http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Amour/0073.gif) Love you sis' (http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Amour/0079.gif)
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: gwynned on April 18, 2012, 10:27:28 PM
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Didn't her daughter wear the fedora, or Raffles?

I was just thinking about Raffles and wondering what happened.  In the last episode, he was No. 1 suspect and since then...nothing!  I guess he had his 15 minutes of fame.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: MJonmind on April 19, 2012, 03:17:34 AM
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Didn't her daughter wear the fedora, or Raffles?

I was just thinking about Raffles and wondering what happened.  In the last episode, he was No. 1 suspect and since then...nothing!  I guess he had his 15 minutes of fame.
Yep, he suddenly seemed to come out of nowhere, and now dropped like a hot potato. :animal0017:
This is the last news on the net.  Whitney Houston's aide Raffles Van Exel is in the clear over evidence removal claims | Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2123825/Whitney-Houstons-aide-Raffles-Van-Exel-clear-evidence-removal-claims.html)
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: gwynned on April 19, 2012, 08:43:42 AM
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Didn't her daughter wear the fedora, or Raffles?

I was just thinking about Raffles and wondering what happened.  In the last episode, he was No. 1 suspect and since then...nothing!  I guess he had his 15 minutes of fame.
Yep, he suddenly seemed to come out of nowhere, and now dropped like a hot potato. :animal0017:
This is the last news on the net.  Whitney Houston's aide Raffles Van Exel is in the clear over evidence removal claims | Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2123825/Whitney-Houstons-aide-Raffles-Van-Exel-clear-evidence-removal-claims.html)

I love this quote....ever conscientious, he's going to stop by the police station just in case. 

Quote
According to TMZ, he is 'extremely relieved' about the development, though he plans to pay the police a visit with his lawyer next week to make sure they do not want to speak to him.

And this odd factoid.  The bed sheets were missing.

Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Tink on April 21, 2012, 06:49:31 PM
Actually, they may have grabbed the bedsheets, to cover Whitney for modesty's sake, after pulling her from the tub. Towels aren't large enough. I probably would've done that.

Also - I'm not surprised that all the false allegations concerning Raffles disappeared. Someone was gunning for him - and it all went POOF in their faces,  :LolLolLolLol: Like I said, too small of a fish to be drug supplier - it's someone BIGGER.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: LoveShyMichael on April 21, 2012, 07:15:22 PM
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Also - I'm not surprised that all the false allegations concerning Raffles disappeared. Someone was gunning for him - and it all went POOF in their faces,  :LolLolLolLol: Like I said, too small of a fish to be drug supplier - it's someone BIGGER.

Yep, BIG PHARMA, the biggest drug supplier of them all. I don't feel there will ever be an arrest for any "drugs" in Whitney's system. The mainstream media already downplayed the prescription drugs being any factor what so ever. BIG PHARMA doesn't care about anyone who dies from prescription drug overdose. Yes, we all know Whitney openly admitted SMOKING cocaine & pot together. An upper & a lower. Yes, there's no doubt cocaine will make the heart beat faster, that's why she SMOKED IT WITH POT!....To take the edge off of the extreme high of heart beating faster.

She died of an overdose of drugs, ( and judging by her actions & demeanor) it was a mix of prescription drugs. Again, this will not be brought up as prescription drugs, but COCAINE as the cause.

But because Whitney is famous, you will hear only the COCAINE finally killed her. NO prescription drugs contributed to her death........yea right...............NEXT VICTIM PLEASE!!
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Tink on April 21, 2012, 08:53:36 PM
@LoveShyMichael - not everything is a conspiracy with Big Pharma. Whitney did this to herself, by not taking care of herself - and I know how hard that is, at times. Your body is your temple, as the good book says. But Chronic Cocaine use prematurely aged her arteries, faster on the inside there. None of the drugs on her list (which many I've either taken, or are taking), could cause that disease to go out of control. You can control artherosclerosis with diet & exercise in the early stages, but 60% blockage has already gone too far into the danger zone, and you need immediate meds, radical diet & exercise changes. At 70% is when they stent you!

I've lost many family members to this beast, along with cancer. Only one cousin's alive, because they emergency stented her, during a heart attack. Her brother dropped dead, because he refused to see a doctor and we lost him at 50 in 2008, due to eating a box of Cheetos every night for 5 years while playing WARCRAFT (WarCrack, I call it)! The junk in the Cheetos caused the artherosclerosis. ALL JUNKFOOD and FAST FOOD can actually KILL YOU, if that's all you eat each and every day! It's as bad as Cocaine to your heart! Junkfood also KILLED MY FATHER.

So - Big Pharma!? How about the people who make CHEETOS and all the JUNKFOOD on the planet!? Because THAT is more deadly than ALL the Big Pharma combined...and I miss my father and my cousin, both from preventable deaths - as much as Whitney's was.

Frito-Lay - ALL the manufacturers could stop using hydrogenated oils, which would help immensely! When you fry food, it changes the chemical composition of the food, and it sure isn't healthy anymore.  :(

Between Migraines & Heart diet, I can ONLY eat fresh prepared food, each & every day now - no preservatives at all. But it will save my life. THAT is what Whitney needed to do: heart meds, exercise, and radically change her diet. The turkey sandwich was a great start - but only a start. Cocaine killed her - she chose her death - and she she knew it was a high probability, each and every time she used...and I still feel bad for her, because addiction is an illness unto itself!
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: ~Souza~ on April 21, 2012, 10:25:24 PM
Pretty judgemental to say Whitney chose to die. Do you know her? Sorry, but don't judge about people you never talked to because you do not know the real story.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: LoveShyMichael on April 21, 2012, 10:58:00 PM
@Tink...
Yes, junkfood is also deadly. There are many lawsuits against Frito-Lay because of the deceit of those product. It's funny that you mention Frito-Lay, because I work in a printing industy where our company print the salty snack bags for them. Below an article about their deception also.

I saw your list of prescription medication you take Tink, that literally made my hair stand up on ends, knowing your immune system is greatly affected. Yes medication is prescribed, but it's also the easy way to avoid changing anything in anybody's diet or exercise. That seems to be the magic pill for most.

People are so UN-INFORMED when it comes to prescritpion drugs. People think just because their doctor prescribes it, there is not a risk. Prescription drugs kill more people than ALL ILLEGAL DRUGS COMBINED.

Funny thing is that you don't hear all those deaths on mainstream media, or your doctor won't even tell you the total immune system failure with happen while taken synethic drugs. Our bodies are not meant to filter those prescription drugs. Along with all the food, water, & junk food that is INTENTIONALLY, put in our food & water & prescription drug supply for the ultimate result.....to kill us quicker, bankrupt us, & keep you as a repeat customer.

Why is that cancer has exploded? What is contributing to the increase in cancer? Why are children dying from cancer before the age of 10? Why doesn't anyone link it to what the elite agenda is?
Oh, I know....because people don't think a global elite, Illumanti, NWO even exits.



Woman files class action lawsuit against Frito-Lay for marketing genetically-modified snacks as 'all natural'
Thursday, January 05, 2012 by: Jonathan Benson, staff writer

(NaturalNews) Many major food manufacturers have been on a kick to jump on the "all natural" bandwagon, with all sorts of processed food products now claiming to be healthy and free of artificial and synthetic ingredients. However, one such company, Frito-Lay, is the subject of a new class action lawsuit that pegs the company for illegally marketing its snack products, which are loaded with genetically-modified (GM) ingredients, as being natural.

Represented by Milberg LLP of Los Angeles, Calif., Julie Gengo of Richmond, Calif., recently filed a class action lawsuit against Frito-Lay alleging that its snack products are fraudulently labeled. Frito-Lay Sun Chips and Tostitos products are made with GM vegetable oils and potentially even GM corn, but they are both labeled as being "All Natural." But GMOs are not all-natural ingredients, and are, in fact, admittedly synthetic, which makes any product that contains them unnatural.

Named in the lawsuit are Tostitos Restaurant Style Tortilla Chips, Tostitos Bite Size Rounds Tortilla Chips, Tostitos Crispy Rounds Tortilla Chips, Tostitos Multigrain Tortilla Chips, Tostitos Scoops Tortilla Chips, Tostitos Restaurant Style with a Hint of Lime Tortilla Chips, Tostitos Artisan Recipes Fire-Roasted Chipotle Tortilla Chips, Sun Chips Original Flavored Multigrain Snacks, Sun Chips Garden Salsa Flavored Multigrain Snacks, Sun Chips French Onion Flavored Multigrain Snacks, and Sun Chips Harvest Cheddar Flavored Multigrain Snacks.

"Each of the products that are the subject of this action contain corn and vegetable oil as their main ingredients. But the corn and vegetable oils (including corn, soybean, and canola oils) are made from genetically modified plants and organisms," says the lawsuit. "Monsanto Company defines GMO on its website as food with a genetic makeup altered to exhibit traits that are not naturally theirs."

The lawsuit alleges Frito-Lay's marketing practices violate two California Business & Professions Codes, a California Consumers Legal Remedies Act, and the federal Magnuson - Moss Act, as well as constitute a breach of express warranty. It includes as a plaintiff anyone who has ever purchased a Frito-Lay product labeled "All Natural."

You can view a copy of the lawsuit here (http://www.courthousenews.com/2011/12/15/Frito.pdf (http://www.courthousenews.com/2011/12/15/Frito.pdf)).

If you are interested in joining the lawsuit, or filing one of your own, Milberg LLP invites all potential litigants to fill out a GMO claim evaluation


Learn more: Woman files class action lawsuit against Frito-Lay for marketing genetically-modified snacks as 'all natural' (http://www.naturalnews.com/034576_Frito-Lay_GMO_class_action_lawsuit.html#ixzz1seMdZTpk)


Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: LoveShyMichael on April 21, 2012, 11:06:25 PM
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Pretty judgemental to say Whitney chose to die. Do you know her? Sorry, but don't judge about people you never talked to because you do not know the real story.

I know Whitne wouldn't have chose her death just because she did legal & illegal drugs. I don't think anyone will ever really know the truth of exact cause of death. We all know she dampered with illegal & legal drugs, no one plans to die when using that combination.
Many are so un-informed on the deadly consquences. I don't feel she chose that to be her death by any means.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: LoveShyMichael on April 21, 2012, 11:11:04 PM
Hey Souza.....
Since you just posted, quick question for you. When did this site start? Wasn't it after Michael "died" in June of 2009? I see your join date has 2008?
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Tink on April 22, 2012, 01:21:02 AM
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Pretty judgemental to say Whitney chose to die. Do you know her? Sorry, but don't judge about people you never talked to because you do not know the real story.

I know Whitne wouldn't have chose her death just because she did legal & illegal drugs. I don't think anyone will ever really know the truth of exact cause of death. We all know she dampered with illegal & legal drugs, no one plans to die when using that combination.
Many are so un-informed on the deadly consquences. I don't feel she chose that to be her death by any means.

It's more like this - With Cocaine, it's like playing Russian Roulette. You just don't know which time the bullet's in the chamber. The more you use it, the more chambers are filled in that gun. I've actually lost people I care about to the addiction itself. Didn't even realize they were making a fool out of themselves in front of everyone. They mixed Coke, Alcohol, marijuana all at once, and lost everything, because the person didn't comprehend what it did to their thought processes, or how they acted in public. I refused to have that in my life. An addict will ALWAYS pick their addiction over YOU.

Here's a study: Cocaine Triggers Heart Attacks Within One Hour Cocaine Triggers Heart Attacks Within One Hour (http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/1999/06/990601081626.htm)

Excerpt: Cocaine also tightly squeezes, or constricts, the coronary arteries that feed blood to the heart. If the artery constricts, blood flow to the heart and brain can be obstructed, causing a heart attack or stroke.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Tink on April 22, 2012, 01:56:59 AM
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@Tink...
Yes, junkfood is also deadly. There are many lawsuits against Frito-Lay because of the deceit of those product. It's funny that you mention Frito-Lay, because I work in a printing industy where our company print the salty snack bags for them. Below an article about their deception also.

I saw your list of prescription medication you take Tink, that literally made my hair stand up on ends, knowing your immune system is greatly affected. Yes medication is prescribed, but it's also the easy way to avoid changing anything in anybody's diet or exercise. That seems to be the magic pill for most.

People are so UN-INFORMED when it comes to prescritpion drugs. People think just because their doctor prescribes it, there is not a risk. Prescription drugs kill more people than ALL ILLEGAL DRUGS COMBINED.

Funny thing is that you don't hear all those deaths on mainstream media, or your doctor won't even tell you the total immune system failure with happen while taken synethic drugs. Our bodies are not meant to filter those prescription drugs. Along with all the food, water, & junk food that is INTENTIONALLY, put in our food & water & prescription drug supply for the ultimate result.....to kill us quicker, bankrupt us, & keep you as a repeat customer.

Why is that cancer has exploded? What is contributing to the increase in cancer? Why are children dying from cancer before the age of 10? Why doesn't anyone link it to what the elite agenda is?
Oh, I know....because people don't think a global elite, Illumanti, NWO even exits.



Woman files class action lawsuit against Frito-Lay for marketing genetically-modified snacks as 'all natural'
Thursday, January 05, 2012 by: Jonathan Benson, staff writer

(NaturalNews) Many major food manufacturers have been on a kick to jump on the "all natural" bandwagon, with all sorts of processed food products now claiming to be healthy and free of artificial and synthetic ingredients. However, one such company, Frito-Lay, is the subject of a new class action lawsuit that pegs the company for illegally marketing its snack products, which are loaded with genetically-modified (GM) ingredients, as being natural.

Represented by Milberg LLP of Los Angeles, Calif., Julie Gengo of Richmond, Calif., recently filed a class action lawsuit against Frito-Lay alleging that its snack products are fraudulently labeled. Frito-Lay Sun Chips and Tostitos products are made with GM vegetable oils and potentially even GM corn, but they are both labeled as being "All Natural." But GMOs are not all-natural ingredients, and are, in fact, admittedly synthetic, which makes any product that contains them unnatural.

Named in the lawsuit are Tostitos Restaurant Style Tortilla Chips, Tostitos Bite Size Rounds Tortilla Chips, Tostitos Crispy Rounds Tortilla Chips, Tostitos Multigrain Tortilla Chips, Tostitos Scoops Tortilla Chips, Tostitos Restaurant Style with a Hint of Lime Tortilla Chips, Tostitos Artisan Recipes Fire-Roasted Chipotle Tortilla Chips, Sun Chips Original Flavored Multigrain Snacks, Sun Chips Garden Salsa Flavored Multigrain Snacks, Sun Chips French Onion Flavored Multigrain Snacks, and Sun Chips Harvest Cheddar Flavored Multigrain Snacks.

"Each of the products that are the subject of this action contain corn and vegetable oil as their main ingredients. But the corn and vegetable oils (including corn, soybean, and canola oils) are made from genetically modified plants and organisms," says the lawsuit. "Monsanto Company defines GMO on its website as food with a genetic makeup altered to exhibit traits that are not naturally theirs."

The lawsuit alleges Frito-Lay's marketing practices violate two California Business & Professions Codes, a California Consumers Legal Remedies Act, and the federal Magnuson - Moss Act, as well as constitute a breach of express warranty. It includes as a plaintiff anyone who has ever purchased a Frito-Lay product labeled "All Natural."

You can view a copy of the lawsuit here (http://www.courthousenews.com/2011/12/15/Frito.pdf (http://www.courthousenews.com/2011/12/15/Frito.pdf)).

If you are interested in joining the lawsuit, or filing one of your own, Milberg LLP invites all potential litigants to fill out a GMO claim evaluation


Learn more: Woman files class action lawsuit against Frito-Lay for marketing genetically-modified snacks as 'all natural' (http://www.naturalnews.com/034576_Frito-Lay_GMO_class_action_lawsuit.html#ixzz1seMdZTpk)

Thanks for your concern about my health. The first issue, is that my immune system was compromised to begin with, starting with a brain/spinal injury. The drugs are working on to fix the signaling, and to stop the secondary and tertiary issues from Fibromyalgia that was created by all this.

I'm not going to sue anyone over junk food, because as of this week, it's all off the menu! All pizza, sausages, aged cheeses, processed foods - contributes to my Migraines. We've unlocked a major nightmare at least. Dilaudid, GONE!  :icon_e_biggrin: I'm just going to have to learn to cook fresh, like Bobka/grandma. The longer I'm without a Migraine, the more I'm on MY FEET. Who would've thought FOOD itself, could make one so ill!? Convenience foods = Migraines.  :o 4 days without a Migraine...wow! This may also may be the key to regaining my overall health.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: LoveShyMichael on April 22, 2012, 02:03:51 PM
Matrix Assessment Profile (MAP) helps reveal solutions for fibromyalgia, chronic symptoms and vicious cycle disorder - Dr. DiCenso
Tuesday, February 14, 2012 by: S. D. Wells
(NaturalNews) Whether you are suffering from depression, anxiety, stress, fibromyalgia, arthritis, osteoporosis, artificial sweetener disease, IBS, nicotine addiction, mood swings, migraine headaches, lack of energy, or you just have a long list of chronic symptoms and no definitive diagnosis from a doctor, MAP testing is the most advanced, convenient and practical way to find the source and the cure without leaving the comfort of your own home. (Nutritional analysis using M.A.P. testing - The Matrix Assessment Profile - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jH0V3aK_emk&feature=youtube_gdata)).

This mail-out test called Matrix Assessment Profile (MAP) was invented 15 years ago by Dr. Richard A. DiCenso, a seasoned veteran at finding the source of chronic symptoms (Turning symptoms into solutions with Dr. DiCenso's MAP testing - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-eXTJtH5WM&feature=youtube_gdata)).

What Western Medicine calls disease, Dr. DiCenso calls "Vicious Cycle Disorder," where symptoms are treated and covered up until nutritional deficiencies add up and toxic acids in the body begin to corrode tissues, glands, and organs, leading to critical illnesses.

Dr. DiCenso also refers to a phenomenon called total body toxicity, where a pool of toxins is created by repeatedly ingesting toxic foods, fluoridated water and pharmaceuticals. MAP testing reveals exactly which organs have nutritional deficiencies and how your symptoms reflect that. "If you find the source you find the solution," says DiCenso, and "If you only address the symptoms you compound the problem."

The body is designed to create and eliminate waste products in a 24 hour cycle, so anything retained becomes poison. The MAP test shows Dr. DiCenso exactly how you digest, absorb and retain nutrients, and your inability to process and excrete toxins.


Turning symptoms into solutions
Dr. DiCenso, a genius innovator who takes pride in his ability to expertly analyze and evaluate a patient's nutrient "profile," puts his patients on the right path more quickly than any other method, saving his patients a fortune. The MAP test reveals which systems are under stress, and DiCenso guides you to the right foods.

The beauty of MAP testing is that you can test from anywhere in the world. You simply visit his website (Matrix Transformation (http://www.matrixtransformation.com/)), punch in basic info, and the package is mailed to you. You provide a urine sample and a saliva sample, fill out the health history form, mail it, and within 2 weeks you have a complete diagnosis by phone from Dr. DiCenso.

Vicious Cycle Disorder (VCD) is very common and MAP testing allows DiCenso to see the forest for the trees. The American public has been brainwashed into using pharmaceuticals to relieve symptoms, an unfortunate "tradition" for over 100 years. Most symptoms are basically "the effect of a nutritional imbalance or deficiency," and the long term result is VCD, not a disease. "Treat the source of the problem at that level and the problem is solved."

If you smoke cigarettes and want to quit, you can accelerate results by combining MAP testing with 14AndOut (14AndOut! (http://premium.naturalnews.tv/14AndOut__WS.htm)), a unique program which also addresses nutritional deficiencies and toxicity as part of VCD. Also, check out Dr. DiCenso's most recent book called "Beyond Medicine; exploring a new way of thinking" (Matrix Transformation (http://www.matrixtransformation.com/)).

"The people who are most busy and can't afford the time or money to take care of themselves are often the people who spend more time and money trying to manage their sickness instead of managing their health." (Discover Wellness Center :: Home (http://discoverwellnesscenter.com))

Remember, disease is just a fancy word for bad nutrition, and pharmaceuticals are nothing but a band-aid. Get to the root of your problems. Your body needs antioxidants, minerals, probiotics, and immune building superfoods. It's like a maze out there and everybody needs a "MAP."



Learn more: Matrix Assessment Profile (MAP) helps reveal solutions for fibromyalgia, chronic symptoms and vicious cycle disorder - Dr. DiCenso (http://www.naturalnews.com/034958_Matrix_Assessment_Profile_disease_cure.html#ixzz1si9985IY)



Learn more: Matrix Assessment Profile (MAP) helps reveal solutions for fibromyalgia, chronic symptoms and vicious cycle disorder - Dr. DiCenso (http://www.naturalnews.com/034958_Matrix_Assessment_Profile_disease_cure.html#ixzz1si8ylDrc)
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: LoveShyMichael on April 22, 2012, 02:08:37 PM
@Tink.....
Found these 2 articles...Maybe some of these natural healers can help you or anyone else on this site.



Use Natural and Alternative Help for Fibromyalgia


(NaturalNews) Fibromyalgia is a misunderstood and frequently misdiagnosed condition. It is characterized bidespread chronic pain involving multiple "tender points" in the upper neck, back, shoulders, and hips. Treatments, such as painkillers, antidepressants, muscle relaxants, and the injections of anesthetics are rarely effective. However, many may find relief from nature and alternatives as opposed to mainstream drugs and treatments.

A natural alternative which may heal fibromyalgia is to take plenty of colloidal silver (start off with 2-4 ounces per day and maintain at least an ounce a day until you achieve satisfactory results) and plenty of proteolytic/digestive enzymes to dissolve the fibrin (take up to 5 or more capsules two to three times daily on an empty stomach).

Here are some additional options:

Curcumin, magnesium, blackseed oil (Nigella sativa) and herbal oleander extract are all powerful immune modulators which may help. Magnesium deficiency has been associated with Fibromyalgia and it is estimated that as many as 80 to 95% of us are deficient in magnesium.

Consume apples and/or apple juice. They contain "malic acid", a substance that appears to ease pain and inflammation. Consume at least 2 apples, or 2 8-ounce glasses of juice daily.

Other good dietary practices that may help are:

* Eat plenty of essential fatty acids and omega 3's.
* Cut back on consumption of whole grain foods.
* Avoid sugar, artificial sweeteners and foods containing bleached flour.
* Eat yogurt which contains active yeast cultures.

Try acupuncture. The National Institutes of Health has deemed acupuncture to be an acceptable alternative, or part of a comprehensive treatment program, for several types of pain. Acupuncture is a 2,500 year-old practice, and the Chinese believe it works by affecting the energy pathways called "meridians" that run through the body. The "meridians" are thought to carry "qi" (pronounced chee), an energy force that must be in precise balance for good health. Poor health habits, such as getting too little sleep, eating the wrong foods, etc. cause qi to become unbalanced. Acupuncture rebalances qi by stimulating specific points along these meridians with extremely fine needles.

Fibromyalgia has also been associated with heavy metal contamination. Parsley, chlorella and cilantro are all good for removing heavy metals.

Consider niacin and niacinamide. Niacinamide slows down phase 1 of the body's natural detoxification process while niacin speeds up phase 2. Niacin is also known as inositol hexanicotinate, vitamin B3 and nicotinic acid. The body's natural liver detoxification process involves two steps: Phase 1 and Phase 2. In Phase 1, toxins are reduced to smaller fragments. These fragments then progress to Phase 2, where they are bound to glutathione, glycine, sulfate and other molecules. In the process, new non-toxic molecules are created that are eliminated via the bile duct, urine or stool. In effect, Phase 1 either directly neutralizes a toxin or modifies it to form intermediates which are then neutralized by one or more of the several Phase 2 enzyme systems.

One or both detoxification phases can be overloaded and/or inefficient. A particularly damaging combination for someone who is ill is an excessive overload of toxins coming into Phase 1 and an inefficient Phase 2. Such a combination is believed in many instances to be the cause of marked environmental sensitivities and drug intolerances and interactions that characterize many fibromyalgia and chronic fatigue sufferers.

Do not give up on exercise. People with fibromyalgia often stop exercising because it is painful. However, inactivity weakens muscles and makes them more sensitive to pain. Low impact aerobics, conditioning exercises, such as swimming, stationary bicycling or stretching, are often helpful for people with fibromyalgia.



Learn more: Use Natural and Alternative Help for Fibromyalgia (http://www.naturalnews.com/028369_fibromyalgia_remedies.html#ixzz1siA4OKKv)
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: skyways on April 22, 2012, 08:15:30 PM
Wow   
 @LoveShyMichael  and @Tink - your knowledge truly is  amaze me! 
I pray that cure wl b finaly working for u Tink and have Blissful week everyone!

Thank u againe @ShyMichael for posting that article about  Matrix - i wl check for myself too-)).

L.O.V.E.!!
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Tink on April 22, 2012, 08:24:49 PM
@LoveShyMichael :bearhug: :bearhug: :bearhug: :bearhug: :bearhug: :bearhug: :bearhug:

You really are a dear, you know that? I don't care if we agree to disagree - I love you, because you're an angel to me. Not many people are willing to go the extra mile, in helping with Fibro - and I mean it! I do take supplements, etc. Some of the Fibro/ME & related patients do the natural thing, btw. I have spinal issues, that are causing some of this. So exercise, aerobics, traction, walking, I do what I can every day. If I can just get my core muscles rebuilt, perhaps it will knock many of these drugs down. I'm not overweight - just out of shape (visions of "sloppy man butt" has made me cringe, even as a woman).

And over the past week, past month - I've started to get some relief. This is when I must not stop.

 :bearhug:

@skyways - aw, thanks.  :icon_redface:
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: LoveShyMichael on April 23, 2012, 12:41:42 AM
@Tink......

It's ok, for us to agree to disagree! I just feel like it's the right thing to do, in helping someone else who might not find alternative ways for medicine. And being honest , your LIST of medications you we're taking literally scared me. Like you've said you've taken almost all of what Whitney Houston was taking "daily". And we al know that end result. And because i've been on numerous anti-depressents, ADHD, & weaned myself off all. The side affect are just too much. But hey I thought they we're "helping', helping what?, I'm really not sure, besides helping me overload my organs with toxins.

What got me on the fibromalyga with you was because I work with a girl who was just diagnosed with it. But she also drinks diet soda, which is loaded full of aspertane, which mimics the same exact symtoms as fibromalyga, but is actually just aspertane poisoning.

This site is also for sharing clues, ideas, likes, dislikes, opinions, facts, fiction, but above just to offer support to each other.

Here's another article......& this Chiropractor is in California, same state your in. Maybe he's close to you & you could check him out.


Surgery can cause fibromyalgia; chiropractic care can effectively treat it, says Dr. Whitcomb


Dr. Paul Whitcomb, a chiropractor in South Lake Tahoe, Ca, doesn't want to offer fibromyalgia sufferers false hope. However, he has developed a chiropractic treatment that has been successful in treating 95 percent of his fibromyalgia patients. Approximately 3.7 million Americans, mostly women, currently have fibromyalgia, according to Dr. Whitcomb's website Fibromyalgia Specialists | Dr. John Whitcomb | Best Way Quit Smoking | Cash Advance at Stopfibro.com (http://www.stopfibro.com).
"It turns out that fibromyalgia is an upper cervical spinal stenosis, which is actually a choking off of the spinal cord structures, but not so much the spinal cord as the meninges; the coverings of the spinal cord itself," explains Dr. Whitcomb.

Fibromyalgia appears most frequently in people who have suffered some sort of physical trauma, such as a car accident or a blow to the head. Some even recall abuse as a child, but Dr. Whitcomb, who himself suffered from fibromyalgia for three years, said he is currently researching and writing a book about another possible cause of the condition -- surgery.

"I think what's happening is, when you sleep at night you have muscle tone, and if you get sore or you're uncomfortable, you move out of that position -- when you're having surgery, you have no muscle tone at all. You're totally flaccid, and it doesn't take a lot to change something," Dr. Whitcomb said.

"I think what's happening -- I may be wrong -- but the position [surgeons] place the [patient's] head to put the trachea in is the same position [chiropractors] would use to take the first vertebrae and shove it forward." Dr. Whitcomb also theorizes the hospital staff tries different methods to support the neck and make the patient comfortable, but the supports they use often end up pushing the first vertebrae against the spinal cord. The adjustments Dr. Whitcomb makes in moving the first vertebrae from up against the meninges have meant relief for most of the patients who visit his clinic.

In an interview from the "Tahoe Daily Tribune," Dr. Adnan Sammour, an internist, said that one of his patients seems to have enjoyed great success with Dr. Whitcomb's treatment.

"She's almost completely pain-free, sleeping through the night and not requiring any pain medication," Sammour said. "She tried pain medicine, physical therapy, massage, acupuncture, and that did not help."

Some patients do not experience relief from their symptoms with Dr. Whitcomb's treatment. Dr. Whitcomb says they often are not suffering from fibromyalgia, and he also warns them of their limited chances of success beforehand. On his website, Dr. Whitcomb mentions two other hindrances to the success of his treatment. The first, overmedication, can be a problem, since patients often lose the ability to differentiate between the symptoms of fibromyalgia and the side effects of their medication. In addition, patients are often unwilling to discontinue use of their medications. The second hindrance can be the formation of scar tissue. Pseudo, or false, joints can develop after extended periods of living with fibromyalgia. Dr. Whitcomb, however, has had patients recover from their symptoms after 55 years of living with them.

Although fibromyalgia is defined as a chemical imbalance causing hypersensitivity in the nervous system that amplifies pain, the symptoms go far beyond just pain, according to Dr. Whitcomb, "[The misaligned vertebrae] pulls on the meninges, which is not that flexible, which attaches to all the nerve roots all the way down the spine," he said. Since the nerves from the spine have to pass through the meninges, the pulling causes all the nerves to fire at one time. "Now these poor people have symptoms of everything that comes from these nerves, and so you will hear them say they have pain, they have numbness, they have tingling, they have burning, they're cold, they itch; those are just all the proprioceptive fibers that go to the brain from the different areas," said Dr. Whitcomb.

Patients can also be subject to pituitary and thyroid problems. They often experience an almost constant adrenal rush, as the pressure on the meninges causes a reaction in their sympathetic nervous system. Sufferers are basically in a constant "fight or flight" response.

What does this mean for the patients? "They can't sleep," said Dr. Whitcomb. "Even if they do get sleep, or even if they take medication to sleep, they still wake up exhausted." Additionally, the constant activity in the sympathetic nervous system often shuts down the patient's intestines, causing diarrhea, constipation and irritable bowel syndrome.

Dr. Whitcomb has found this barrage of pain and discomfort is often accompanied by irrational and uncontrollable mood swings, which are understandable given the severity of the symptoms. Family members and loved ones, however, sometimes feel pushed away by this behavior, and some even leave. This intensifies the feelings of hopelessness, and can lead to depression, sometimes to the point where sufferers feel their only remaining option is suicide.

"I'm trying to do some research to find out how many fibromyalgia patients commit suicide, and the closest we have right now is 14 percent," said Dr. Whitcomb. "But I'm not sure that's an accurate figure. It sounds way too high." Dr. Whitcomb added the national average for suicides is two per 100,000 people. "At any rate, I know it's high because people are sick and they definitely don't want to live like that," adds Dr. Whitcomb.

Part of the healing process, according to Dr. Whitcomb, is meeting and talking with other people who are suffering from fibromyalgia. Patients pack into Dr. Whitcomb's office from all over the world and end up forming close friendships with each other, to the point where some patients show up together in carloads. "It's wonderful...they've got somebody to cry with or hold hands with and the other women grab them and start taking them shopping and going places. That part of it's a real good time."

Not surprisingly, with such a large number of victims, and such serious symptoms associated with fibromyalgia, Dr. Whitcomb's high rate of proclaimed success has met with some skepticism. Dr. Whitcomb says he often wakes up in the morning and can't believe it himself. In the "Tribune" article, National Fibromyalgia Association president Lynn Mantallana said the word "cure" made her nervous, since no cure for fibromyalgia is known at the current time. Mantallana doesn't immediately discount Dr. Whitcomb's claims, however; she herself has suffered fibromyalgia for two years, and just feels more research is needed.

Dr. Whitcomb agrees. He has enlisted the help of Dr. Gregory Plaugher, director of research at the Life Chiropractic College West, to document the cases of 30 of Dr. Whitcomb's patients. "The reason I'm working with [Dr. Plaugher] is that he's an outside source, he's not in our office," said Dr. Whitcomb. "He's going to document and print the results as they come out."

The skepticism, however, doesn't just stem from Dr. Whitcomb's claims about a disease that has only been recognized as a diagnosis within the last five years. Dr. Whitcomb feels other factors may contribute to some of the doubt he is facing, or has yet to face. Among those factors are professional jealousy, misunderstandings and general negativity.

In the case of skeptical medical professionals, Dr. Whitcomb feels that most of them are just trying to address the symptoms as best they can, but they don't define any one treatment as "right" or "wrong". "[Chiropractors] kind of look at a lot of the things [conventional medical professionals] do, and go, 'Why in the world would you do that to a person that has this?' and they look at us and go, 'We think this should be done this way,'" Dr. Whitcomb said. "The problem I have with some of their patients is that they go to doctors and the doctors look at them and say, 'You know what your problem is? You just need to pull your act together, get a life, go back to work and quit whining.'" This type of bedside manner can exacerbate the depression and hopelessness fibromyalgia patients already encounter.

Although Dr. Whitcomb doesn't blame individuals or their doctors, he also has a problem with some patients and their medication. Fortunately, as relief comes for patients, their dependency on painkillers, such as morphine, Oxycontin, and Vicodin, recedes. "Most of my patients are either off of all their meds, or 80 percent are off them within six weeks," Dr. Whitcomb said. "So they usually leave here without meds. He further adds, "Some of the people who have been long term on antidepressants or something, sometimes they'll have to take longer to get off the medications."

Dr. Whitcomb would prefer to be able to send his patients straight to a detoxification program from his office, but he said that it's important to note that he would never take patients off their medication. He prefers to let his patients discuss getting off medication with the doctor who prescribed it, saying, "I don't like to interfere with what other people are doing. The same way I don't let them interfere with my treatment."

As patients begin to recover with his treatments, Dr. Whitcomb feels that it is important for patients to begin some lifestyle changes. Ideally, he would like to work with a resort where patients could go for exercise and detoxification programs, and help with positive diet changes. The road to recovery is intense, with patients visiting Dr. Whitcomb's office up to three times a day over a period of one to two months. "We normally will see a patient three times a day -- Monday, Wednesday and Friday, twice on Tuesday, twice on Thursday and once on the weekend," says Dr. Whitcomb.

According to the information provided on Dr. John Whitcomb | Osteoarthritis Symptoms | Cause Fibromyalgia at Stopfibro.com (http://stopfibro.com), the intensity of the treatments is necessary to combat fibromyalgia's propensity to return to its abnormal state. Cost for the treatment is $62.50 per visit, which is less than the national average for chiropractors. The cost, however, can quickly add up due to the frequency of visits. A four-week treatment usually costs about $3,500. The cost includes exam, consultation, report of findings, and X-rays. Patients usually find the results well worth the price.

"Somewhere around three weeks [into the treatment], they start sleeping, and it's like a miracle," Dr. Whitcomb said. Patients sometimes think something has gone wrong with the treatment, because they seem to want to sleep all the time, but Dr. Whitcomb says that is a positive change. "I say, 'Good.' That's a real big landmark for us, because that shows me that the sympathetic nervous system is going back to normal." The increased sleep is usually followed by patients' systems recovering from irritable bowel syndrome, as the pain begins to subside. However, Dr. Whitcomb has noticed a setback that sometimes accompanies recovery. Patients have a bit of fear of returning to their life as a healthy person and what their loved ones will expect from them now.

"I have a video here that I show; a talk I give...I tell them, "Look, I want your spouse and everybody to know that you need to go home and you need some months to readjust to being a human being.' It's not easy, and a lot of people require counseling." Dr. Whitcomb employs a counselor for just that purpose, who works with his patients twice a week. Dr. Whitcomb also recommends following up his treatment with deep tissue massages.

Dr. Whitcomb has said he doesn't want to offer false hope for his patients, but his treatment is certainly an option patients should consider, especially if nothing else has worked thus far. For more information, visit the Fibromyalgia Center of South Lake Tahoe, Calif. website at Fibromyalgia Specialists | Dr. John Whitcomb | Best Way Quit Smoking | Cash Advance at Stopfibro.com (http://www.stopfibro.com), or call his chiropractic office at (530) 544-0632.


Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Adi on April 23, 2012, 12:49:15 AM
This information on Fibromyalgia is very informative and interesting, I have a friend with the same condition.

However discussions about it and other individual health problems has nothing to do with the apparent death of Whitney Houston, so wouldn't this discussion be better placed in General Talk?
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: SimPattyK on April 23, 2012, 12:52:35 AM
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This information on Fibromyalgia is very informative and interesting, I have a friend with the same condition.

However it and discussions about other individual health problems has nothing to do with the death of Whitney Houston, so wouldn't this discussion be better placed in General Talk?
Thank you Adi, i was about to post the same thing!
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: LoveShyMichael on April 23, 2012, 01:02:36 AM
Yep. Agreed. Side tracked...it happens.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: MJonmind on April 23, 2012, 01:21:10 AM
Bec, is it possible to have these helpful posts transferred to a thread something like -- Help/Tips for Health problems and/or Pitfalls in the Healthcare/Pharmaceutical industry?  Then the discussion could be continued freely.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: MJonmind on April 30, 2012, 02:53:32 AM
I came across this from Jackie from Apr 26 about Raffles, but I think it's just a joke. :icon_rolleyes:

UPDATE: Raffles the con man (http://www.lipstickalley.com/f343/update-raffles-con-man-392022/)
Ask Jacky... Any Update on Raffles van Exel? (http://diaryofahollywoodstreetking.com/ask-jacky-any-update-on-raffles-van-exel/)
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: Tink on April 30, 2012, 12:08:29 PM
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I came across this from Jackie from Apr 26 about Raffles, but I think it's just a joke. :icon_rolleyes:

UPDATE: Raffles the con man (http://www.lipstickalley.com/f343/update-raffles-con-man-392022/)
Ask Jacky... Any Update on Raffles van Exel? (http://diaryofahollywoodstreetking.com/ask-jacky-any-update-on-raffles-van-exel/)

This HSK dude is a liar! That photo is Photochopped completely! Head size, shadows, etc. do not match size, the angle of sun, anything else.

Media LIES, allowed to lie. This dude apparently is the KING of lies, with anything having to do with Raffles. No one else has said a word, the Silence is deafening. I feel his head is also on the proverbial chopping block, as he keeps referring people to those who will NOT speak.

When you refer to liars as sources, to sell your trash - that makes you what? Best not to say anything.
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: gwynned on May 01, 2012, 09:38:18 PM
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This HSK dude is a liar! That photo is Photochopped completely! Head size, shadows, etc. do not match size, the angle of sun, anything else.


Shocking!   :icon_geek:
Title: Re: Whitney Houston Dead at 48
Post by: bindupbrokenhearted on May 04, 2012, 06:04:10 PM
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@Tink...
Yes, junkfood is also deadly. There are many lawsuits against Frito-Lay because of the deceit of those product. It's funny that you mention Frito-Lay, because I work in a printing industy where our company print the salty snack bags for them. Below an article about their deception also.

I saw your list of prescription medication you take Tink, that literally made my hair stand up on ends, knowing your immune system is greatly affected. Yes medication is prescribed, but it's also the easy way to avoid changing anything in anybody's diet or exercise. That seems to be the magic pill for most.

People are so UN-INFORMED when it comes to prescritpion drugs. People think just because their doctor prescribes it, there is not a risk. Prescription drugs kill more people than ALL ILLEGAL DRUGS COMBINED.

Funny thing is that you don't hear all those deaths on mainstream media, or your doctor won't even tell you the total immune system failure with happen while taken synethic drugs. Our bodies are not meant to filter those prescription drugs. Along with all the food, water, & junk food that is INTENTIONALLY, put in our food & water & prescription drug supply for the ultimate result.....to kill us quicker, bankrupt us, & keep you as a repeat customer.

Why is that cancer has exploded? What is contributing to the increase in cancer? Why are children dying from cancer before the age of 10? Why doesn't anyone link it to what the elite agenda is?
Oh, I know....because people don't think a global elite, Illumanti, NWO even exits.



Woman files class action lawsuit against Frito-Lay for marketing genetically-modified snacks as 'all natural'
Thursday, January 05, 2012 by: Jonathan Benson, staff writer

(NaturalNews) Many major food manufacturers have been on a kick to jump on the "all natural" bandwagon, with all sorts of processed food products now claiming to be healthy and free of artificial and synthetic ingredients. However, one such company, Frito-Lay, is the subject of a new class action lawsuit that pegs the company for illegally marketing its snack products, which are loaded with genetically-modified (GM) ingredients, as being natural.

Represented by Milberg LLP of Los Angeles, Calif., Julie Gengo of Richmond, Calif., recently filed a class action lawsuit against Frito-Lay alleging that its snack products are fraudulently labeled. Frito-Lay Sun Chips and Tostitos products are made with GM vegetable oils and potentially even GM corn, but they are both labeled as being "All Natural." But GMOs are not all-natural ingredients, and are, in fact, admittedly synthetic, which makes any product that contains them unnatural.

Named in the lawsuit are Tostitos Restaurant Style Tortilla Chips, Tostitos Bite Size Rounds Tortilla Chips, Tostitos Crispy Rounds Tortilla Chips, Tostitos Multigrain Tortilla Chips, Tostitos Scoops Tortilla Chips, Tostitos Restaurant Style with a Hint of Lime Tortilla Chips, Tostitos Artisan Recipes Fire-Roasted Chipotle Tortilla Chips, Sun Chips Original Flavored Multigrain Snacks, Sun Chips Garden Salsa Flavored Multigrain Snacks, Sun Chips French Onion Flavored Multigrain Snacks, and Sun Chips Harvest Cheddar Flavored Multigrain Snacks.

"Each of the products that are the subject of this action contain corn and vegetable oil as their main ingredients. But the corn and vegetable oils (including corn, soybean, and canola oils) are made from genetically modified plants and organisms," says the lawsuit. "Monsanto Company defines GMO on its website as food with a genetic makeup altered to exhibit traits that are not naturally theirs."

The lawsuit alleges Frito-Lay's marketing practices violate two California Business & Professions Codes, a California Consumers Legal Remedies Act, and the federal Magnuson - Moss Act, as well as constitute a breach of express warranty. It includes as a plaintiff anyone who has ever purchased a Frito-Lay product labeled "All Natural."

You can view a copy of the lawsuit here (http://www.courthousenews.com/2011/12/15/Frito.pdf (http://www.courthousenews.com/2011/12/15/Frito.pdf)).

If you are interested in joining the lawsuit, or filing one of your own, Milberg LLP invites all potential litigants to fill out a GMO claim evaluation


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Thanks for your concern about my health. The first issue, is that my immune system was compromised to begin with, starting with a brain/spinal injury. The drugs are working on to fix the signaling, and to stop the secondary and tertiary issues from Fibromyalgia that was created by all this.

I'm not going to sue anyone over junk food, because as of this week, it's all off the menu! All pizza, sausages, aged cheeses, processed foods - contributes to my Migraines. We've unlocked a major nightmare at least. Dilaudid, GONE!  :icon_e_biggrin: I'm just going to have to learn to cook fresh, like Bobka/grandma. The longer I'm without a Migraine, the more I'm on MY FEET. Who would've thought FOOD itself, could make one so ill!? Convenience foods = Migraines.  :o 4 days without a Migraine...wow! This may also may be the key to regaining my overall health.

I feel your pain, Tink, as I developed fibro and a host of many other things, including CFS and hormonal imbalances less than a month after receiving several vaccines (I regret this now).  Not sure if they are related, but it does make me wonder.  Anyways, I feel your pain, but there is help, as I am almost symptom free but it has taken about 2 years to fix myself.  The allopaths gave me nothing but anti-depressants  :icon_rolleyes:  Okay, then I spoke with some friends that are naturopaths/chiropractors.  I also did my own reading.  What really helped me is to supplement vitamin D (and I also take multivitamin and vitamin C) and/or make sure to get enough sunlight.  If I get pain again, I will try glutathione.  That and I went to vitually all whole food mostly plant based diet with some range fed organic meats, eggs, and dairy.  I am not perfect on my diet, but when I fall, my body lets me know it!  So I stay on my diet as much as possible.  I am working on eliminating all fluoride from my water supply, but this is hard as it is everywhere.  But I am working on it.  Fluoride actually causes hypothyroid as has been used previously for hyperthyroidism in the past.  And there are reports that fibromyalgia is really hypothyroidism in disguise.  I am starting to believe this.  Anyways, avoiding fluoridated water might help too.  Also, juicing has helped me out, and I am going to try a new supplement with iodine and extra b vitamins, to help boost my thyroid and I will let you know how it goes.  I also try to eat at least one apple a day with seeds (as they might have a very important vitamin, B17, which is controversial, but I haven't died from eating apple seeds yet so take it for what you will.

Pilates for core strength (within reason for your abilies/condition of course).  I am currently starting a pilates course and already notice a difference within a few weeks.

Think twice about vaccines, as I think that is how my fibro was triggered and still feel it to this day, although now I am functional again.   :woohoo2:  Natural remedies and supplements work and I am living breathing proof!  Knowledge is power!  And no anti-depressants needed for me.  I escaped the medial mafia this time.


Anyways, sorry to get off topic here (really, really sorry).  The drug and medical mafia need to be exposed for what they are both in the 'treatment' and sometimes murder of celebrities as well as murder and making the people of this world very sick.
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Post by: Grace on May 05, 2012, 03:15:30 AM
Did any of you guys ever get tested on Lyme disease?
Fibromyalgia is only one of many severe health issues caused by bacteria transmitted by ticks.
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