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Are the Elvis and MJ parallels all a scam by TS?  In fact, is TS involved in a complex murder plot along with Sony and TMZ—using Elvis and numerology, etc, to make the MJ death look like hoax??  This post covers the answers to these questions.

However, if you are a hoax newbie, this post will not make much sense until you have read at least the following posts:

TIAI Update #4a, #4b, #4c, & #4d: 777 + 999 = Greatest Proof Hoax, Not Murder
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TIai update #6: Michael & Elvis, DOuble-bam This Summer?!?
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Silencing the Critics, And $999 REwarD??? You bET
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1. Outline

1. Outline
2. Truth Will Prevail
3. Most Recent Predictions
4. Unclaimed Numerology Reward
5. Outthinking the Illuminati
6. Katherine and Randy
7. Bahrain And Michael
8. God Can Protect
9. “His Own Words”
10. Eliza’s Court Case
11. Eleven Thirty

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2. Truth Will Prevail

Although I did mention the concept of being tested, I never said that the test would be intentionally false information (to see if anyone would catch it).  That is of course a possibility; but it’s also possible that the only test is whether people will reject true information, without checking it out for themselves.

It is good to see people doing their own research, on some of the subjects that I have previously written (as well as other subjects); I have no complaints about this.  If what I have written is wrong, in time that will become obvious; and if what I have written is truth, in time the “truth will prevail”.

However, just because someone questions or challenges what I have written, don’t expect me to respond impulsively.  In time I will usually answer, especially if nobody else does; but don’t expect any knee-jerk reactions from me, I’ve never operated that way and never will.  Quick reactions are usually emotionally charged, and not well thought out; I like to give time for the dust to settle, and also time for others to find answers—that way people are thinking for themselves, rather than just letting me spoon feed them.  Furthermore, I normally post on key dates and times; and this case is no exception (see section 11, below).

Some have thought that my “return” and “bam” predictions were for the purpose of testing people.  Again, this is possible; but there is another reason, which I won’t reveal until after the bam.  And as I have said before, the “return” did have a double-meaning: one meaning was a possible bam, and the other meaning was “piece by piece” information about the hoax coming together, and especially things about the hoax hitting the media.  This process is still going on, including recently (see section 3, next); although it was rather quiet there for a few months.  Did anybody notice that things suddenly picked up recently?

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3. Most Recent Predictions

Quoting from the redirect on November 2 (which mentions the November 1 redirect): “I think that it is not only the content of the [November 1] redirect that is important but the timing as well. ... I think that we are maybe now moving on to the next level. ... we have reached a certain stage and are heading now to the next one. ... The term ‘the eleventh hour’ springs to mind and perhaps this is why TS redirected to this post on the first day of the eleventh month. It could mean we are moving into the next phase ... ‘Remember, remember the 5th of November’” {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}

Does anybody feel like this month (November) has been the “next phase”, or “next level”—have things been a little crazy this month (after being rather quiet for a few months)?  We got “Breaking News”, first preview on November 5 {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}; and “Opis None”, also on November 5 {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}; the Oprah Encino interview happened this month (see section 6, below); and the news about MJ and Elvis still being alive was huge hoax news that came out this month (Teddy Riley and Akon).

By the way: did you notice that much of the media reported Riley as an “insane producer”—but the word “insane” was not used by TMZ?  “MJ Producer Believes MJ is ALIVE!!!!!”  {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login; You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.

So this has been quite a month.  And just before this month began, on October 30, TIAI redirected to War of the Worlds: “On Oct. 30, 1938, up-and-coming actor and director Orson Welles stages a radio adapation of H.G. Welles’ novel War of the Worlds set in modern-day New Jersey. Presented as a series of news bulletins and without commercial breaks [breaking news] ...” {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}

Elsa commented on this prediction: “I’ve realized that this TIAI redirect about the Orson Welles broadcast of War of the Worlds (The Greatest Hoaxes ever), was timed perfectly prior to Breaking News . The War or the Worlds broadcast was done as a series of news bulletins about Martians landing in New Jersey. Breaking News starts with news bulletins and was supposedly recorded in New Jersey.”
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That TIAI redirect to War of the Worlds on October 30 was clearly first, because the song title “Breaking News” was not mentioned on TMZ until November 4 {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.

Let me make it clear that I do not expect people to gullibly believe anything and everything I say, merely because of the predictions.  Please accept or reject what I say based on the reliability of the information itself; this is what I have always said.  If I signed up with various usernames—and posted information using various writing styles, so that people would not recognize me—the information should be assessed on the exact same basis as my posts under the username TS.

Some have commented on my predictions, saying that I have a “need” to prove my authenticity.  But again, the reason for the predictions is not for you to merely believe everything I say; rather, it is for when I reveal my identity—to help people believe what I say about myself at that time.  Some would believe me now if I revealed this, but some would not.  

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4. Unclaimed Numerology Reward

I think that there are two main reasons why many people do not accept the numerology: either they are not mathematical, and don’t understand it very well—and/or they do not want to accept the meaning of it all (MJ planned his own death hoax; and New World Order, end of the world, Elvis connection, etc).

But the $999 reward is the solution for both of these two reasons.  And the fact that nobody has come anywhere close to claiming the reward (or succeeded in passing the coincidence test)—after nearly three months, and multiple thousands of views on that $999 reward post—this is very strong proof that the numerology is irrefutable evidence.  Nevertheless, in spite of the unclaimed reward: I will go into more details now, because of the high importance of the numerology, and also because of the fact that many still don’t understand or accept it.

Many people on the forum, as well as the general public, are not real good at math—especially if it gets complex.  But the MJ numerology math itself is very simple, such as: 1998 / 2 = 999; or 6 + 25 + 2009 = 2040.  What’s much more complex than the numerology itself, is calculating the statistics of whether the MJ numerology was all by chance or design.  And this is what a lot of people are still not getting—especially when it comes to calculating not only the probabilities of a coincidence, but also the opportunities of a coincidence.

Recent complaints about the numerology have included statements such as: TS has been “crafting numerology”, or I just “kept looking until I found connections”, or there are “countless events which hold numerology”, etc.  All such statements show a great lack of understanding the opportunities concept, in all the MJ hoax numerology.  So I will try to explain this further.

First, we must understand that when some connection is made (whether a number, or anything else): if we want to assess the likelihood of the connection being merely by chance, we need to look at the opportunities for a coincidence on both ends of the connection (this is something many forget, and at most they look only for the opportunities on one end of the connection).

For example, what are the opportunities for MJ to die (one end of the connection) on June 25, 2009 (the other end of the connection)?  Let’s take a close look at each end of this connection, starting with MJ.  Why are we picking MJ’s death—why not Farrah, or someone else?  How many opportunities are there for SOMEBODY to die on 6-25-09?  Thousands of people die every day!  And even if we were to limit the opportunities down to only famous or important people, we would still have a list of 16 people on Wikipedia who died that day {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.

Out of these 16 opportunities, why do we choose MJ—just because we like MJ?  What about Farrah fans: should they limit the opportunities down to 1, merely because they like her?  No, being a fan of MJ or Farrah does not change the opportunities of who might die on that day by chance.

However, did Farrah or anyone else in the world (other than MJ) have a record-breaking album, song, and video titled “Thriller”—which was about the dead being alive?  Or did anyone other than MJ marry the daughter of an extremely famous person, who is very well known for possibly faking his death?  It is these things, and not merely liking MJ, which allows us mathematically to reduce down to 1 the opportunities of a coincidence on this end of the connection (WHO died on 6-25-09).

Notice also at this point, that the opportunities for somebody ELSE famous or important dying on the same day is very likely—in fact, 15 other people are listed on Wikipedia that day, and several people are listed as dying on every day of the month in June 2009 (in fact, Wikipedia lists notable deaths regularly every day).

And if you were to start researching the other people who died on 6-25-09, you would almost certainly find SOME kind of connection with MJ—same age, or lived in the same town, or same color hair, or same first name, or same brand of car, or same SOMETHING!  You will find connections which are merely coincidence, because you are browsing through an almost endless sea (multi-contextual research) of opportunities for a coincidence.  So no, MJ did not plan to fake his death on the same day as Farrah’s death (or anyone else).

We have looked at MJ’s “death” on one end of the connection; now we are ready to look at the other end of the connection, the date (6-25-09).  What are the opportunities of MJ dying on a particular date by coincidence?  Why do we pick 6-25-09, merely because that is when it happened?

Wikipedia lists the current average worldwide lifespan as 67.2 {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.  If we multiply 67.2 by 365.25 days in a year (average including leap years), we have 24,545 days in the average person’s life; this means that we have nearly 25,000 opportunities for MJ to actually die on SOME day by chance.  So why do we pick 6-25-09?  This is where the numerology really kicks in, and narrows the window of coincidence opportunities from 25,000 down to 1.

First, let’s look at the 2040 number on the spaceship.  The year 2009 had 11 dates which add up to 2040 (and 2010 through 2027 have 12 dates each year).  But these years all have more than 350 dates which do NOT add up to 2040; so even with no other numerology, there is only about 1 chance in 30 (~3%) that MJ really died on 6-25-2009 by chance—and 29 chances in 30 (~97%) that MJ planned to “die” (a fake death) on 6-25-2009!

True, numerology often continues adding and reducing until the answer is one digit (6 + 2 + 5 + 2 + 0 + 0 + 9 = 24; 2 + 4 = 6); however, that is not the only method of numerology.  And since the 2040 was clearly copying Elvis (because both Elvis 2001 and MJ 2040 was a space-related concert into, adding up to the fake death day): then we can be sure that in this case, the date 6-25-2009 should not be reduced to one digit (just like 8 + 16 + 1977 = 2001, not one digit).  And please do not overlook the important fact that understanding the Elvis connection answers many of the MJ hoax questions and objections, etc.

Even with this 2040 connection, we should think about connections on both ends.  We have already looked at the one end (6-25-2009); but what about opportunities on the other end of the connection, 2040?  How many different numbers did MJ display on a space-related concert intro?  Ten thousand, or fifty, or a dozen, or only 1?  Maybe those of you who know MJ better than I do can help me out; but right now, I can only think of 1 opportunity on this end of the connection.

So even if we stopped the numerology right here: we could close the book and say that there’s a 3% chance MJ died on 6-25-2009 merely by coincidence, and a 97% chance that he faked his death by plan!!!  Thankfully, MJ did not want to leave anyone with a 3% wiggle room; because human nature tends to prefer claiming rare coincidence, rather than admitting unwelcome truth.  So MJ made sure that the numerology was less than 1 chance in a million, rather than 3 chances in a hundred (3%).

Especially since many people don’t like my long posts: I will stop here, rather than continuing to examine the opportunities of a coincidence (on both ends of each numerology connection).  However, I will repeat here the list from my last post; and keep in mind that the 3% (above) is only one of the twelve listed below.  Notice also that the numerology is all dealing with factors of time related to the “death”—which greatly reduces the scope of coincidence opportunities: it is NOT browsing through a wide sea of events, and multi-contextual researches, etc (quantity of album sales, street addresses, shoe sizes, length of paper clips, add infinitum).

a. The 911 call was in the first few seconds of 12:21
b. 12:21 to 2:26 is 2 hours and 5 minutes on June 25; 2 + 5 = 7
c. 1,221 + 226 = 1447; 1 + 4 + 4 + 7 = 16; 1 + 6 = 7
d. Memorial 7th day of 7th month, 7 years after will (and full moon)
e. 77 days from “death” to 9-9-09
f. 7 days from “burial” to 9-9-09 (and almost full moon)
g. THIS IS IT vowels = 999
h. HIS (HIStory and THIS IS IT) backwards = 1998
i. 1998 autograph; 1998 - 666 = 1332 / 4 = 333 + 666 = 999
j. 777 + 999 = 1776
k. All of these numbers (333, 666, 777, 999, 1221, 1776, 1998) are divisible by 111
l. 8 + 16 + 1977 = 2001; 6 + 25 + 2009 = 2040 (space intros for Elvis and MJ)

I realize that this next statement could be referred to as “circular reasoning”; however, if you can accept even one step in the circle, then the whole circle becomes valid.  #1 As long as nobody can claim the $999 reward, the numerology stands uncontested and irrefutable; #2 the numerology proves that MJ himself planned the timing of his own (fake) “death”, so he was not murdered; #3 the numerology explains the reasons for the hoax, including the Elvis connection; #4 TS has understood and explained the numerology better than anyone else in MJ hoaxland, so TS is valid;  #5 TS supports TMZ (and TMZ supports TS); #6 TMZ is not playing games, unless MJ is really dead; but we know that MJ is not dead (see #2), so TMZ is in on the hoax; #7 TMZ gave us the first numerology clues (the 7’s), very shortly after MJ “died”; so we know that the numerology is part of the hoax (which leads right back to the start of the circle, #1).

And speaking of the unclaimed numerology reward: I could increase the reward up to 999 million dollars, but nobody would collect a penny—because the most advanced mathematician in the world can’t debunk it!  You don’t have to be good at math personally; all you need to know is that no mathematician can debunk it.

What about DNA (even if it is handled under certain “chain of custody” requirements), do you need to be a lab technician to accept DNA evidence?  Or could you accept the fact that lab technicians themselves are unable to refute certain DNA evidence?

Go ahead, take the $999 reward challenge; if you are not good at math, get a friend or math teacher to help you—and split the reward.  You have nothing to lose (other than time).  The phrase “You bET” in the title of that post was merely an expression (I realize that some who don’t know English as the first language might not recognize this expression); this expression (you bet) simply means “of course”!  It was used primarily for the word “YET” (in all caps).  It was not used to mean a gamble; you will not have to pay $999 if you take the challenge, but don’t succeed.

Finally, in all that I have said about the numerology, I am not just rattling off random numbers; I have backed it up with an almost ONE THOUSAND DOLLAR reward!  And nobody has even come close to claiming it.  Has any other hoaxer ever offered any such reward?  As the saying goes: “put your money where your mouth is”—and I have done exactly that.

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5. Outthinking the Illuminati

I have never said that the whole company of Sony is in on the hoax.  What I have said is that Michael planned this hoax for many years, and got a few key people in a few key positions.  Some of what comes through Sony is part of MJ’s plan, but a lot of it is not.

And the statement by MJ, about outthinking Sony, is not being understood with the word “outthink” in mind.  Yes, MJ did have some problems with Sony—especially TM, who is long gone.  But was it really Sony that MJ was primarily talking about?  Would stating in public and on video exactly who you are planning on outthinking, would that really qualify as outsmarting them—or would it be outstupiding them??

Do you really think that MJ was talking exclusively (or even primarily) about Sony, when he said that they have manipulated the “history books”?  Or perhaps was MJ actually referring to outthinking the Illuminati, and using Sony as a bit of a diversion (although the Illuminati does have its fingers in every big pie, including Sony)?

The idea of the hoax being a cover up for murder has been discussed a lot, and recently it has been discussed in the context of TS possibly being part of this Sony and TMZ affiliated cover up.  I have gone into the murder theory several times before, and won’t repeat all those things now.  Of course the numerology is very strong against murder; but aside from that, I will make a couple of points here.

The family has already said they know who killed MJ, and “it’s all going to come out”.  So if Sony, TMZ, and/or TS were involved in this murder plot—and the family has already figured it out—then continuing to promote the hoax concept would only make them look more and more guilty of trying to hide the murder.  As soon as Sony, TMZ, and/or TS realized that the family was on to their tracks, they would distance themselves from the hoax theory as far and as fast as possible.  Then why has that not happened???

Also, here is a very good point from jacilovesmichael: “If he was murdered, then those who murdered him [supposedly including TS] surely wouldn’t want to continue spreading the message [which is exactly what TS does] that he was murdered for.” {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.

By the way: I have already said that I do not work for TMZ.  I will now say that I do not work for Sony.  Do you believe it?  If so, then you have your answer; and if you don’t believe this answer, then there’s really no point in asking the question.

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6. Katherine and Randy

Speaking of the murder theory: many people have had their faith shaken lately—especially with Katherine crying in the Oprah interview, as well as some tweets from Randy.  But again, if people would take the Elvis connection seriously: they would understand a lot more, and it would be much easier to “keep the faith”.

If you read the book by Elvis/Jesse (and Dr. Hinton), The Truth About Elvis Aron Presley In His Own Words (which I will abbreviate as TTAEAP): you will find repeated similar statements, such as this one—which is right up front in the introduction.  “So many people have written or spoke about my death as a hoax.  It was not a hoax! ... Elvis Presley did die that day.”  The physical body lived on, yes; but the performer, the King of Rock, ceased to exist on 8-16-1977.

With MJ: his enemies really did kill the reputation, the image, the performer, the King of Pop—Michael Joseph Jackson.  Therefore, the statements and emotions of the family are real—even though it is metaphorical murder, and not literal.  Even the Bible uses death and murder in a metaphorical sense: “Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer[/u] ...” (1 John 3:15; see Luke 9:60; etc).

Katherine was crying on the Oprah interview; and it was real emotions and real tears, not just acting.  She also said on that same interview, in the context of molestation charges and not the context of 6-25-2009: “I can’t talk about anything without crying ...” {4:31, You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.

Also her biggest grief on June 25 was not when Murray told her that MJ was “gone” (to the airport).  Instead, her major grief was when she had to take the children home with her; because at that point, MJ really was “gone”—and the children would not then be living with him or seeing him regularly {10:21, You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.

But if any still have difficulty with the emotions and statements of Katherine and/or Randy, you might want to consider that maybe some of the family members are not in on the hoax.  I’m not saying that this is the actual case; but if it’s easier for you, this is yet another example where the Elvis connection could help.

“One fact that most people would think is that my Daddy [Vernon] must have known, well he didn’t.  We were planning on telling him when he passed away without ever knowing.” (TTAEAP 28).  “My own Daddy bless his soul never knew the truth.  Little Lisa was told months later and explained to her she would not see me much. ... I feel bad my Daddy wasn’t allowed to know but it just couldn’t be done.” (TTAEAP 32,33).  “Also let me tell you that my Daddy did not know of this hoax if they want to call it that.  If he had not died suddenly, we would have told him. ... To this day I feel terrible about this.  But he had to be eliminated from the beginning.  He was to be told after 3 years but as you know he passed 6 months too early.” (TTAEAP 56).

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7. Bahrain And Michael

One of the redirects included this statement: “It’s quite reasonable to think that one of the places MJ’s been hiding out in is Bahrain.” {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.  Several questioned why I would redirect to this, and put MJ at risk.

First, let me repeat what I have said before: just because I redirect to something, it does not mean that I agree with every single word on the comment or webpage that is redirected; instead, look for the main points being said, not necessarily every detail.  In this case, however, I did make sure to redirect to a post which had a very important detail in it: “ONE of the places MJ’s been hiding”.

Second, Bahrain could be a decoy.  Third, whether or not it’s a decoy: TS is certainly not the only one who has given the Bahrain clue.  It was also on the Jackson Reality Show, on the recent Oprah interview, and on TMZ.  “Bahrain Company Didn’t Get Memo On MJ’s Death” {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.  As many noticed, this title had nothing to do with the article; the title was a clue that Bahrain didn’t know about MJ’s death, because they did know that he is not dead!

Elvis/Jesse has also listed several of his past hiding places—including Apopka, Florida; Tenino, Washington; and Hawaii, which is a paradise island (TTAEAP 28,38,40,48).  Many rumors have circulated for years about Elvis living on some “paradise island”; well, he actually did!  And of course, Bahrain is also a paradise island.

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8. God Can Protect

There was a fair amount of discussion recently regarding the Bible redirects—and whether they are spiritual messages for those who believe in God and the Bible, or hoax clues and hoax messages for those who don’t?  The answer is: both!  And it’s up to you whether to accept only one aspect of the Bible redirects, or both aspects.

I realize that there are many on this forum who are agonistic or atheist (don’t believe in God); and that is their choice—in fact, most if not all of us who do believe in God, we all recognize that God Himself gives everyone the freedom to choose whether or not to believe in Him (see Hebrews 11:6).  So please don’t let what I say in this section (or anywhere else) be taken as disrespecting those who choose not to believe in God; I still respect you, even if I think that you have made the wrong choice.

However, for those of us who do believe in God—which includes Jesse/Elvis, Linda, Eliza, and of course MJ (as well as many on the hoax forums)—they all recognize that God is bigger and more powerful than all the people and all the money in the world combined!  Therefore, if God wants the general public to know the truth about Elvis, and/or MJ: then nobody and nothing is going to stop it.

Furthermore, all who believe in God should also realize that He is fully capable of protecting both Elvis and MJ.  And if MJ did not have a strong faith in God’s protection, he would’ve never planned any BAM at all.  “There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear ... He that feareth is not made perfect in love.” (1 John 4:18).  Remember: It’s All For LOVE!

I just happen to know something about Elvis/Jesse and his safety, that even Linda does not know.  And what I have done and am doing is for his best interest and greatest safety—both in the present and future.  If any are able to figure out The Source of what I’ve been presenting for more than a year now, they will know for certain that what I’m saying here is 100% true.

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9. “His Own Words”

There has been a lot of question and discussion lately about Linda Hood Sigmon, and whether she is a reliable informer for Elvis/Jesse.  According to her: “Elvis/Jesse does not support the court case …” {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.

According to Eliza: “NEVER HAS MY BROTHER CONTACTED MYSELF VIA MAIL, PHONE OR EMAIL TO ASK, REQUEST OR ORDER ME TO DISCONTINUE AND/OR WITHDRAW FROM MY COURT CASE. NOT WHILE IT WAS FILED IN PROBATE COURT OR SINCE IT HAS BEEN FILED IN CHANCERY COURT. UNLESS OR UNTIL HE DOES, I SHALL CONTINUE TO ASSERT MY RIGHT TO DO SO.”
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Which of these statements is true: the one from Linda, or the one from Eliza?  Can you wrap your mind around the idea that both of these statements are true?  Is it possible that Jesse has asked Linda not to support the court case, and yet he has not asked Eliza to stop it?  Can you put yourself in his shoes for a moment, and understand what issues he is dealing with?

Did you know that there was a similar situation between Linda and Dr. Hinton, regarding Jesse “coming out” in 2002?  Both of them were in contact with Jesse, and both of them were informers; but Linda and Dr. Hinton did not agree on this aspect of the general public learning the truth about Jesse {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.

Also, notice this recent statement on Linda’s website: “He [Jesse] has mentioned coming to see me a few times and while he knows that he would be welcome, I have not encouraged it.” {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.

The book by Dr. Hinton and Jesse, which I have already quoted from above, is titled: The Truth About Elvis Aron Presley In His Own Words!  And many of the letters printed in this book, are also photocopied there in his own handwriting.  So if we want the most accurate information about Jesse, this is it!  This first quote which I will include from this book is about Jesse, but written by Dr. Hinton; while the other quotes, below the first one, were all written by Jesse himself (his own words).

Dr. Hinton said: “... they did not want him [Jesse] within five miles of Graceland, but he [Jesse] and one other person went up to his bedroom at Graceland late at night to get the cuff-links.” (TTAEAP 50).

Jesse: “The Graceland estate does not allow me to contact them personally, they are determined to keep the myth alive and don’t want me taking any chances.  ... I can’t do a thing about it either.  The Church of Scientology has something to do with it.” (TTAEAP 40,41).

Jesse: “You see I have everything taken care of except the fact that I am never given any cash whatsoever.  When I do ask for cash, I am always given the third degree on what I need cash for.  So you can see all the restrictions I have on me.  People ... thought I was the same old Elvis handing out money ...” (TTAEAP 28; see 48).

Jesse: “I picked four (4) of us initially and to this day all have kept the secret.  I also know when this book reaches the bookstores people (my loyal friends) will be heartbroken.  They took care of me and convinced others that I was no longer alive.” (TTAEAP 31).

Jesse: “I have already been told through a source that Lisa Marie will cause problems if B.J.’s picture is shown.” (TTAEAP 63).  And yet the picture of Jesse and Benjamin was included in Jesse’s book (on page 23).

Jesse: “I was told there was a survey that stated percentage wise that many people still thought I was alive!  But as time went by I became more daring and went out [in public] with minimal disguises.” (TTAEAP 48).

Jesse: “As I get older I feel I must reveal more facts of my life as Jesse.” (TTAEAP 56).

Some may say that these statements by Jesse/Elvis were from about ten years ago, and perhaps things have changed since then.  Yes, and I would also say that those who can read between the lines, think for themselves, and put themselves in Jesse’s shoes—they will probably be able to understand what has and has not changed in the last decade.  Nuff said!

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10. Eliza’s Court Case

Many say that posts by TS are too long; and some people don’t even read them, because they are so long.  Also, I was asked to keep this post short—and yet the same person complained that I left important information out of a previous post (update #6).  It is possible to include more information, and it is also possible to keep the posts short; but it is not possible to do both.  So what should I do: keep my posts short, and leave out important details?  Or have long posts?

Anyway, the whole issue over DNA was not the result of intentionally misleading information from me or the attorney; I was merely trying to keep the post from being any longer than it was already.  I did link to the blog by attorney Mayoras, giving more than half a dozen very strong reasons why the DNA was not falsified—even though the DNA did not qualify for the specific legalities that have been discussed {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.

And by the way, the DNA itself is from real people—the laboratories do know this for sure; but the theoretical possibility here is that Eliza got the DNA from people other than Elvis and Presley relatives.  However, even though this is a theoretical possibility, in this case it’s not a very realistic possibility.

Notice the following statements, which I made in update #6 (all of which would be pointless, if the DNA was already under the legally established protocol): “However, for the sake of keeping this fairly short, let’s stop here and notice some very clear reasons why Eliza’s story is not some elaborate fabrication. [P] If this was a big joke: it would be very easy for Graceland to disprove it (provide DNA); but they have not even tried. Also, Eliza did not set out to prove that Elvis is alive; instead, she set out to find her real father—and unexpectedly stumbled across amazing evidence that Vernon Presley was her real father (and therefore that Jesse/Elvis is her half brother). She is not asking for money, she only wants the public to know the truth; if she was trying to get tons of money, then that would probably raise questions about a possible motive for attempting a scam—but she is not.”

And even if Eliza was after money, now and/or in the future: there is no way that she could get any money from EPE—unless of course the DNA is valid!  Surely if Eliza’s DNA sources were not valid (if they did not really come from Elvis and real Presley relatives): then EPE would come up with DNA (such as Lisa Marie’s) to disprove Eliza, rather than paying her megabucks!  This evidence is common sense, think for yourself—even if this evidence does not have certain legal qualifications.  Our forum here is for investigating all evidence, not merely evidences which abide by certain court regulations.

The attorney also made this same “common sense evidence”, as one of his strong points—which I will quote here: “Not to mention the fact that if this was all a master scheme to defraud the public, through a court proceeding, why would they have done it knowing that it would be so easy for their plan to fall apart?  Elvis Presley Enterprises simply has to march into court with the DNA of Lisa Marie, or either one of the two cousins tested for that matter, and they could prove in a snap that it’s not true ... unless, of course, it IS true.” {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.

If Eliza’s DNA was all collected and shipped and handled under the specified legal criteria for chain of custody proof, etc: then there would be no need whatsoever for either the attorney or me to present these above arguments, in favor of Eliza’s DNA being genuine and not a scam.  (By “Eliza’s DNA” here, I don’t mean merely her own personal DNA; I am talking about all the DNA tests and evidence that she has.)

And the same could be said of the discussions about possibly exhuming the graves of Vernon and/or Elvis.  If Eliza’s DNA had been legally established, the court case would be settled without any need for any exhuming whatsoever.  The very fact that this possibility was discussed (by Mayoras, and the TMZ redirect, etc) should have been an indicator that the current DNA evidence is lacking, at least in some manner.

It’s almost impossible to write a couple dozen long posts, and not be misunderstood several times.  Here is one possible example: “the basis for a legal case which is already in court” (update #6); although I said “basis for a legal case”, I did not say the “legal basis”.

Without the DNA, Eliza most likely would not have the confidence to pursue the court case (and Eliza herself knows that she is being honest about the DNA, even if others do not).  Therefore, the DNA is the basis for her choosing to go forward with legal case (even though the DNA is not the legal basis).

Also notice that in update #6, I never said the DNA was “legal” evidence which the court would accept.  Instead, I used the phrase “scientific evidence”; and indeed, Eliza’s DNA evidence is scientific—regardless of legalities.  I also used the term “strongest scientific proofs”; and by that, I did not mean it would be impossible for stronger proof to ever exist.  Instead, I meant of all the evidences that have existed in the last 33 years about Elvis possibly being alive: these evidences are the strongest.

Notice also that I said “proofs” (plural); so I was not talking merely about the DNA.  Other strong scientific evidences included the photograph, the lie detector test, and the graphology / Forensic Document Examiner {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.

Actually, even the numerology is scientific evidence; it is based on math and statistics, which are very scientific.  However, a court probably would not accept numerology evidence; and this again should show that scientific evidence and legal evidence are not always the same.

So does this all mean that Eliza’s court case will fall through the cracks, and be a waste of time for Eliza—as well as our own Elvis And MJ connections, etc?  I am not the Judge (or Chancellor, in this case); but I can tell you that judges are not stupid—and most likely he will see the common sense evidence regarding the DNA, and understand that Eliza is being honest.

Actually, Linda has put more legal weight on the DNA evidence than I have ever done.  “Once it became clear this month that the judge has refused to dismiss the case, after seeing the DNA results which revolve around my friend Jesse’s DNA … No judge would allow a case to proceed in this manner without substantiating proof … the court case will prove, beyond a shadow of a doubt that Elvis is alive and is now Jesse.” {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.

It is very likely that the Chancellor will not dismiss this case on December 14, merely because the methods of DNA collection/shipping do not match certain legal protocol, etc.  Fortunately, we have only a couple of weeks to wait before we find out.

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11. Eleven Thirty

I have titled this post update #6.5 (not update #7), because this is primarily a continuation of update #6.  And yes, it’s also because I said that update #7 will probably be after BAM.  Does this mean that there will still be more updates and/or posts, before update #7 (6.6, 6.7, 6.8, 6.9, 6.95, 6.96, 6.999, etc)?  I won’t say absolutely no, but most likely not.

Repeatedly, I’ve said that I would not do much if any more (posts or redirects); but I kept watching, and I saw a need and wanted to help.  But now, it has come to the point where I would rather say and do no more, than continue causing endless controversy that is not going anywhere.

I will be watching, and if anyone wants to make a serious attempt at the $999 reward: I will certainly either respond to it or else send the money; but they must be serious calculations.  Other than that, I am not obligated to do any redirects or posts; it is my own choice, and no amount of complaints or anything else is going to force me to post again.  If I have been wrong on anything, time will tell.  And if I’ve been right, time will also tell—the truth will prevail.

Instead of doing a whole new post: I may on a rare occasion make a comment or two in a thread that was posted by someone else (and probably redirect to that comment, so people will who are following TIAI will see it).  But redirects will not be daily anymore; those who still don’t accept TIAI/TS probably never will, no matter what I redirect to or whatever I write in a post, so there’ really s no point.

The hoax doesn’t rely only on TS anyway; as many have said, they believed in the hoax before TS ever posted anything.  In fact, don’t you think there is good reason why I didn’t post any new thread—or even make a comment in an existing thread—until more than two months after the “death”?  If I had posted immediately after 6-25-2009, then people could claim that TS is the reason for believing in the hoax; but it did not happen this way, for a good reason.

This update 6.5 (6 + 5 = 11) was posted at 11:30 PM (CA time), on 11-30 (November 30).  Also, a few days ago TIAI redirected to a clock with the hands at 11:30 {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.  What is the significance of this?  As usual, the redirect had more than one meaning.

The Thriller album was released on 11-30 {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}; and Eliza’s case was previously scheduled for 11-30, although it is now rescheduled for 12-14 {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.

Speaking of Thriller, 11:30 (PM) is “close to midnight ... the midnight hour is close at hand”.  So 11:30 also represents near the end (end of the day, or end of the hoax, or end of the world, etc).

And finally, we are now about half way between 2009 and 2012 (“four more years”); and 11:30 is half way between 11:00 and 12:00.  The clock is ticking, and there is no time for unimportant or unkind controversy.  Yes, some things are important and must be discussed—even if we don’t agree; but even then, disagreements should be done respectfully.  It’s all for LOVE!

“And he saith unto them, Why are ye fearful, O ye of little faith? Then he arose, and rebuked the winds and the sea; and there was a great calm .” (Matthew 8:26).  I have said the following more than once before, but people seem to quickly forget it; so I am going to end by repeating this one more time.  Jermaine said: “it’s all going to come out” (and this was in the context of the “airport” slip-up); until it does all come out, keep the faith NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS!!!!!!!!!!!

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Updates & Posts by TS / Silencing the Critics, And $999 REwarD??? You bET
« on: September 10, 2010, 01:59:16 AM »
Silencing the Critics, And $999 REwarD???   You bET


Today is 9-9-10 (CA time), the one year anniversary of 9-9-09!  It’s also 77 days (inclusive) after the one year anniversary of the MJ “death”.  And my very first post was about the 9-9-09 numerology, posted two days before on 9-7-09; maybe a few here remember this (it was posted on the old MJDH.com forum).

As stated in Update #6, Update #7 probably will not be before bamsday.  I’m not calling this post an update, because it’s really not much new information; it’s more of a response and challenge to the critics, and backing up what I’ve said already with a $999 reward.

Outline:
$999 Reward!!!
The Coincidence Test
You Don’t Need to Be a Rocket Scientist
Did MJ Plan the Elvis Parallels?
Answering the Critics
Does MJ Have Any Informers?
Strongest Evidence that TS Is a Fake Informer

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$999 Reward!!!

On the one year anniversary of 9-9-09, this is a very fitting time to offer this $999 reward.  The reward will go to the first person who can show mathematically and statistically, that there is one chance in any number less than a million (1 chance in 999,999 or 1 chance in 500,000, etc), that all the MJ numerology listed in step 3 below happened by chance.

Anyone can accept this offer, but they must do each of the following 5 steps.

Step 1: Carefully read each of the following three times: all of this post, and TIAI Updates #4b, #4c, #5a, #5d, #6 (especially #6-8 & #6-9).

Step 2: Start a post (in the TIAI subforum) titled: “$999 Claim, By John Doe [don’t use this name, use your own username]”.  Include in your post steps 3 and 4, below; also, any discussion regarding step 5 should be done in this same thread.

Step 3: Show your calculations for each separate numerology (a. to l.) happening by chance {for an example, see the 12:21 phone call time, You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.
Be sure to include:
a. The 911 call was in the first few seconds of 12:21
b. 12:21 to 2:26 is 2 hours and 5 minutes on June 25; 2 + 5 = 7
c. 1,221 + 226 = 1447; 1 + 4 + 4 + 7 = 16; 1 + 6 = 7
d. Memorial 7th day of 7th month, 7 years after will (and full moon)
e. 77 days from “death” to 9-9-09
f. 7 days from “burial” to 9-9-09 (and almost full moon)
g. THIS IS IT vowels = 999
h. HIS (HIStory and THIS IS IT) backwards = 1998
i. 1998 autograph; 1998 - 666 = 1332 / 4 = 333 + 666 = 999
j. 777 + 999 = 1776
k. All of these numbers (333, 666, 777, 999, 1221, 1776, 1998) are divisible by 111
l. 8 + 16 + 1977 = 2001; 6 + 25 + 2009 = 2040 (space intros for Elvis and MJ)

Step 4: Show your calculations for the combination of all these numerologies happening by chance.  Your answer here at step 4 must be 1 chance in 999,999 or less (because one chance in a million or more does not qualify for the reward).

Step 5: Allow me to question/challenge your calculations.

If you can defend your calculations and statistics by answering my questions/challenges: then PM your mailing address to me, and I will send you $999 (U.S. dollars) via Western Union!

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The Coincidence Test

If nobody is able to collect the $999 reward: the only way out at that point will be to claim that a one-in-a-million chance actually happened.  However, while it’s fairly easy to merely claim that it was all coincidence, it is much harder to demonstrate it.  This is why I have created “the coincidence test”—so that people can easily see whether the one-in-a-million coincidence claim is realistic or not.

First of all, to help put things in perspective, if the odds of something happening by coincidence are 1 chance in only 2: there is still a 50% chance that it will not happen by coincidence.  And if it’s 1 chance in 10: there is a 90% chance that it will not happen by coincidence.  If it’s 1 chance in 100: there’s a 99% chance that it won’t happen by coincidence.  1 chance in 1,000 is 99.9% that it won’t happen by coincidence.  And finally 1 chance in 1,000 times 1,000 (one in a million)—is 99.9999% chance that it would NOT happen by coincidence!!!!!!!!!

Saying that the MJ “death” timing and numerology all happened by coincidence would be like playing Russian roulette with 999,999 bullets, and one blank {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.  Although there is one big difference: Russian roulette only puts one person’s life in danger; but with NWO and end of the world, millions of lives are in danger!

For those who want to play “the coincidence test”: it’s quite similar to a lottery, except fortunately it won’t cost money like gambling and the lottery (and also nobody will win money).  I saw a bumper sticker once that said, “Lottery: a tax on people who failed math class.”

Anyway, if you want to try the coincidence test: start a thread (in the TIAI subforum) titled: “The Coincidence Test”.  Then take a guess at what the last two digits (right of the decimal) will be in the Dow, Nasdaq, and S&P 500, once the stock market closes for the day {see You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.  You must state your guess at least 24 hours in advance; and also identify which date your guess applies to (use the date based upon a time zone in the USA); the digits remain in view for more than 12 hours after the market closes, so there is plenty of time to see if your guess was right (they are also recorded permanently).

Make sure you identify which two digits go with Dow, and which ones go with Nasdaq, and which ones with S&P 500.  For example: Dow = .77; Nasdaq = .79; S&P 500 = .99; this will make a six-digit number (777,999), which has a one chance in a million of being correct (000,000 to 999,999).  These stock market decimal numbers are quite random, and nobody will be able to know them 24 hours in advance (or control them); so if someone gets all six digits correct, then that will be a one-in-a-million coincidence!

Now we must not forget the aspect of opportunities, when we are calculating odds of a coincidence.  For this to actually happen as a one-in-a-million coincidence: it has to be the very first person who gets the six numbers correct.  Because the second person will be two-in-a-million, and the third will be three-in-a-million, etc.

If one hundred guesses are made, that would be a one-in-ten-thousand chance; because although though the odds are one in a million, the opportunities are one hundred (so 1,000,000 divided by 100 = 10,000).  Nevertheless, if hundreds or even thousands of “coincidence test” guesses are made—it is still very unlikely that anyone will get it right!

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You Don’t Need to Be a Rocket Scientist

If nobody can succeed in the $999 reward, or the coincidence test—not mathematicians or anyone else—then we will all know the MJ “death” related numerology happened by plan.  You won’t need to be a rocket scientist or a statistician, to understand that the numerology was not by chance.

And if it was planned, it would not be rational to claim that the plan was a murder plot.  This is because some of the numerology was promoted by MJ himself before the “death” (777, 1998, 2040, etc); and also because the family was involved in the memorial and burial numerology timing after the “death”.

Furthermore, as stated previously, the numerology goes beyond merely proving that the “death” was planned by MJ and family (and therefore a hoax); it also gives some of the major reasons for the hoax: 2012 (end of the world), 666 & 999 (NWO), 2040 (MJ planned intentional parallels with Elvis), etc.

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Did MJ Plan the Elvis Parallels?

And speaking of MJ planning intentional parallels with the Elvis “death”: although some responded very positively to You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login, and the Elvis/Eliza developments, unfortunately many others did not.

There are millions and millions of MJ fans; that is, if you are referring to people who are fans of MJ’s music.  But far less people are fans of MJ the person!  And if you are a fan of MJ himself, not just his music: the only question should be whether the Elvis connections were planned by MJ, or coincidence.  If planned, then you should not go against what he himself planned (unless you’re just an MJ music fan).

Actually, the numerology alone should show that the Elvis connections were carefully planned, and not all coincidence (unless someone can collect the $999 reward).  And if MJ did not want the public to know about the Elvis connections: then why did he put the MJ 2040 visible on stage where everyone could see it??? {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login; You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}

There are numerous other amazing parallels with Elvis, only possible if they were planned by MJ (they can’t all be coincidence).  And several of these parallels were made very public by MJ—such as the title, “This Is It” paralleling with “This Is Elvis”, and much more {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.

Also, even though MJ and LMP are not married anymore: yet it is disrespectful to MJ (as well as LMP) to minimize the Elvis connection—even if there were NO other connections!  Just a few days after the TIAI Update #6 on Elvis and MJ was posted, Jermaine spoke very highly of LMP and MJ {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.  Do you really think that MJ appreciates his “fans” opposing the Elvis connection??

For those who opposed bringing Elvis into it, because people would think we are even crazier: so what?  If the truth hits the public on either “death” (Elvis or MJ), then they will realize that we were not so crazy after all!  Then they will be much more likely to come back, and hear what else we have to say.

However, if we wait till the public knows: nobody will pay attention to us then, because everybody will know by then from the mainstream media.  If we rattle cages now: then when it comes out in public, they will be back to find out how we knew BEFORE it came out publicly!  Then they will be much more ready to listen to the rest of the message!

Furthermore, even though Elvis fans have been saying he’s alive for 33 years, yet only recently has DNA evidence surfaced that scientifically proves Elvis lives!  We don’t need to be intimidated anymore, by those who ridicule Elvis being alive as a crazy “conspiracy theory”; we can challenge them with hard DNA evidence, the Eliza court case, no Elvis relative has provided DNA to disprove Eliza, etc.

Speaking of Eliza’s case, and the next step: there’s often a 30-day window for objection to a Motion for Summary Judgment.  For now, though, let’s wait until there are major developments in Eliza’s case, before going to the media again about Eliza.

Speaking of Elvis and going to the media: this was another area of major disagreement on the forum; some in support of it, and many not in support.  So on July 20, I redirected to the ALLJACK5ONS tweet about “media take notice” {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login; formerly You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.  Yet to some this was not good enough, because it was tweeted about three months before my Elvis and MJ update (#6).

But the “media take notice” was referring to the hoax; we know this because the media already has taken notice of the homicide and murder theories.  And if the Jacksons want the media to take notice of the hoax, then that includes the Elvis parallels—since MJ planned those parallels, and even made some of them very public (2040, This Is It, etc).

Last but not least: it was this very same “media take notice” tweet, which became the focus of the post by bec titled “Strong Evidence of TS’s Authenticity”
{You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.  This tweet-delete happened in early August, which was after all of the disagreement about Elvis and MJ, and whether or not to go to the media, etc; and it was also after I redirected (on July 20) to this “media take notice” tweet, in support of going to the media with the Elvis connection.  Therefore, if the Jacksons were against the Elvis connection and/or going to the media: then why in August did they delete enough tweets to keep “media take notice” at the very bottom of the page, exactly as I said clear back in May?

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Answering the Critics

Shortly after Update #6, there was a fair amount of discussion on a few threads criticizing TS.  Several of the questions and objections are worthy of response; and in fact, a few members already posted some very good responses. {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login;
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However, I’m going to add a few replies of my own.  And let me make it clear that I don’t mind sincere criticism, because truth can stand up to questions and objections—the truth will prevail!  The problem is when people make empty accusations, with no evidence, such as “TS is nonsense”; statements like this with no evidence are useless, and I won’t even try to respond to them.

Should the Jacksons tweet about TIAI?  This was suggested and even urged by a few.  Well, they can tweet this if they want; but it’s not very likely, especially not before bamsday.  Also, they did recently delete enough tweets to keep the AOL (Army Of LOVE) tweet on the bottom of the page—just like I said back in May; see again the post by bec, “Strong Evidence of TS Authenticity” {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login; You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.

Also, for those who want to disprove TS/TIAI: why don’t you ask Jacksons to tweet something against TIAI?  Surely if they don’t do that, then this will be final proof that TS is not fake—right???  And if that reasoning doesn’t hold much water, then neither does the opposite reasoning (Jacksons not tweeting in support of TIAI proves that TS is fake).

There were also some concerns that I mentioned the concept of people being tested, and some failing the test; it was suggested that MJ would not do this.  Well, what about Murray?  Don’t you think many people have failed the same basic (prejudice) test—calling him a murderer, even before the preliminary hearing??  Don’t you think that MJ planned this test, to help expose the problems of prejudice and trial by media?  {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login; You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}

Passing the test does not mean gullibly believing anything and everything that TS says, merely because TS is the one who says it; you have always been asked to verify the evidence for yourself, and debunk it if you can, etc.  However, those who refuse anything and everything that TS says, merely because TS is the one who says it—regardless of any and all evidence that has never yet been debunked—they are not at the A+ level on the report card!   :lol:

Speaking of trying to debunk TS: one particular member kept dwelling on my statements about “few” in on the hoax—claiming that there were more than “few”, so this alone proves that TS is a fake {see Update 4d, You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.  However, this is just another of many examples of critics not carefully reading what I said.  The word “few” is always relative; and in comparison to all the stars in the sky, one thousand is a “few” stars.  Taken in context, the “few” that I mentioned was in relation to this statement: “the entire state of California is not in on the hoax. ... only a relatively few people would need to be ‘in on it’” (in 4-36 & 4-38).

I never gave any specific number other than “more than three”; but if you read all my posts, you will find that I myself did mention several specifically involved with the hoax: MJ, family, Conrad, Kenny Ortega, coroner, hospital, FBI, TMZ, etc.  And there are many others (friends/celebrities) who may not have a direct role, and yet understand that it’s a hoax (much like us).

For those who have suggested that TS edits posts later to hide mistakes, etc: notice that Update #4d (referenced above) has not been edited even once (see bottom of the post).  I do not edit posts after posting them, except when adding a link to new parts—and that is only a few days later at most (see for example the bottom of Update #4a, #4b, & #4c, all say “edited 1 time in total”).  Also, every TS post is copied onto several other hoax forums, where it would be practically impossible to edit them.  So if you want to verify what I originally wrote, check it out on other hoax forums!

Another question was this: “why didn’t he [MJ] wear anything with the number 9 in TII?”  Answer: he wore 777 on his red shirt, and had 999 in the vowels of the title (as well as 1998 again, which is 999 x 2, etc {see Update #5a, You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.  If he had 999 on the shirt, and 777 in the title of TII—you probably would’ve complained that he didn’t wear 777!

Furthermore, TII movie poster was officially released on 9-9-09; and TII itself released 7 weeks after 9-9-09, etc.  And the “death” and “burial” was 77 & 7 days from 9-9-09 (resurrection).  How much more do you want???

Yes, if you don’t use inclusive it doesn’t work.  But it CAN’T POSSIBLY work with BOTH inclusive AND standard reckoning; so you MUST pick one of the two, if you are planning it out.  And inclusive is the BETTER of the two options: because it is Biblical, and most widely known in the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus!  Also MJ used inclusive when he said “four more years” in the spring of 2009; normally that would end in 2013—but inclusive is 2009 (year one), 2010 (year two), 2011 (year three), and 2012 (year four).

There are two other major areas of TS criticism.  The first complaint is that TMZ and TS are just playing around; and the second complaint is that TS return/bam predictions have not come true.  These two subjects are addressed in the next two sections, below.

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Does MJ Have Any Informers?

Elvis/Jesse had Dr. Hinton as an informer, and he helped to write the book {see Update #6, You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.  And Elvis/Jesse still has Linda as an informer {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.  So would MJ have no informers?  And if that doesn’t make sense, then who are the reliable MJ informers—if not TMZ and/or TS? {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}

Is the Jackson family the only informers?  And if so, why have they given almost no clues for quite a while?  And if the family is against TMZ, then why have they done interviews with TMZ {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}?  Why don’t they openly speak out against TMZ?  Yes, Jermaine did mention a complaint about camera people laughing in court {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}; but this is all that he mentioned, he said nothing against TMZ reporting MJ news and/or hoax information, etc.

And let’s go back to the beginning once more: why was TMZ first to report the MJ “death”?  Some have suggested that this is merely because TMZ was faster than all the other media, and got the information ahead of everyone else.  But would MJ be so sloppy, as to accidentally allow an internet tabloid site be the first to find out about the “death”?  If MJ planned this all out so well for so long (see Updates #4 & #6): don’t you think that he would also plan what media facility he wanted to first announce the “death”?

Furthermore, if MJ does not have a news source in on the hoax: then how can he demonstrate the problem of the media running stories from other news facilities, without checking it out for themselves (which is exactly what happens when TMZ posts articles)?  And if MJ did plan to demonstrate this, then what news company is he using—if not TMZ??

Even if MJ were really dead, it’s possible that one or more in the Jackson family would read the hoax theories on the internet.  And if you are sure MJ is alive: then you can be certain that they are watching the hoax on the internet.  And even if they read one and only one hoax forum, surely it would be this one (MJDHI); because it’s the first hit on Google, because you don’t have to sign up to read it, and because it is the only hoax forum on the TMZ blog roll {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.

Now why would TMZ put only this hoax forum on blog roll—which is also the only forum that TS posts on?  If MJ and/or TMZ is against the TIAI messages: then this forum should NEVER be the on the TMZ blog roll!

For those who have claimed that TS is only connected with TMZ, but not anything else in the hoax; here is the list yet again (with one more added).  And this time there are sixteen ones with a * (instead of a #); these sixteen are all connections to more than just TMZ.

*1. MJ investigation complete, only two days after TIAI announced Update #1.
*2. 333 pages of FBI files, planned release on same day as TIAI Revealed.
*3. $9.99 while LaToya shopping, connecting with “99” days after 9-9-09.
#4. Six 911 articles on TMZ, the day after TIAI conspiracies on Google (911, etc).
#5. Murray on TMZ news four times, the same day as the TIAI Murray redirect.
*6. Vendetta on 11-5; Evan Chandler / Emerald City on 11-17 (70th anniversary).
*7. 2012 trailer, a week before “Jackson” and many other MJ parallels came out.
*8. TII Resurrection scene in a graveyard (not funeral & casket, etc).
*9. TII would Reveal the hoax (Smooth Criminal, no RIP, BAM statement, etc).
*10. TII would show the MJ “Return” (this very word is now on the DVD).
*11. 1998 autograph codes; 77 days & 7 days all pointed to 9-9-09, fulfilled by several TII and MJ related events.
*12. ALLJACK5ONS tweet on 1-18 about TIAI “Revealed” (also the 3-11 tweet).
#13. TMZ clue on January 25.
#14. TMZ, Murray, and murder versus hoax clue on February 5.
*15. High probability of “piece by piece” return starting in January (see #12, etc).
*16. Autopsy finalized 9-9-09, released just one day after I said “9-9-09 update”.
#17. TIAI redirect to TMZ, less than an hour before the big MJ Killed Himself post.
#18. Update #4 (4-44), #17 article posted on 4-4 at 4:00 AM (444).
*19. Elvis redirect on 5-10, several Elvis events happen from 5-12 to 5-20 (next).
*20. Update 5 (with 12 sections) on 5-12 at 5:12 AM; later that day TMZ starts LMP series from 5-12 to 5-17.  Also, Linda talks to Jesse on 5-12.
*21. The final part of TIAI Update (#5d) is posted evening of 5-19 (CA time).  On 5-19, Eliza posted a message on her homepage, for the first time in about four months; then on 5-20, the article by attorney Mayoras was posted (6-1, above).
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Strongest Evidence that TS Is a Fake Informer

TIAI Update #6 was titled: “TIai update #6: Michael & Elvis, DOuble-bam This Summer?!?”  And yes, summer is nearly over.  So if there’s no bam soon, then I guess this is very strong evidence that TS is fake, right?

However, although the critics will no doubt be eager to use this reasoning as soon as summer is over, there is one minor problem with this reasoning—and that problem is the following list of the others who would also have to be fake, using the same basic reasoning: Jermaine, 5 Brothers, TMZ, Paris, Ortega, Janet, and even MJ himself!

Jermaine’s “The Tribute” has said “coming SOON” for about a year now {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}; actually, it was originally titled The Tribute 2009 {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.  The “5 Brothers Enterprises” website—with BAM illustrated visually and in the audio—has also said “coming SOON” since December 2009 {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.

TMZ had a “big clue” for January 18, 2010; but nothing happened {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login; You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.  And in the same month (January 2010), Paris said “Daddy was supposed to be here.  Daddy was going to perform this year.” {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}

Many already know about Kenny Ortega’s tweet: “Smee: Captain, the ice is melting, the sun is out and the flowers are all in bloom Captain Hook: He’s back” {Sep 1st, 2009 via web; You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.  This was so obvious, that he got several questions about it; so only one day later, Kenny said: “... I was quoting text from Peter Pan. Please don’t look for hidden messages. Promise they’re not there. Just fun” {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.

Now if MJ were really dead, then we wouldn’t pay much attention to these tweets from Kenny; but if MJ is alive, then the first tweet was indeed a clue—and the second one was to deter further questioning.  It is true that the first tweet doesn’t give a specific year, it only mentions springtime; however, unless he was referring to the very next spring (2010), then this tweet was essentially pointless—because it could be ANY spring from now until forever.

On June 14, 2010, Janet tweeted this: “It’s time the fans know the truth …”
{Jun 14th via web; You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login, verified account}.  What “truth” was Janet referring to, that was then “time” for the fans to “know”?  Perhaps that MJ is dead, and he was murdered?  If so, that is nothing that hasn’t been said many times already.  Furthermore, if MJ is alive, then murder would not be the “truth”—instead, the hoax would be the truth.  Yet nearly three months have passed since then, and no hoax truth has come out publicly from the Jacksons.

Last but not least, MJ himself said at the London press conference: “see you in July”!  If he really died, then this was merely a reference to the planned concerts in July 2009; but if he was planning a fake death, then the “July” did not refer to 2009.  Of course he didn’t say what year, just like Kenny’s tweet; but once again, if MJ didn’t mean July 2010, then it could be any year—and therefore it would be practically meaningless.

Actually, if you’re going to include all of the above as fake MJ hoax informers, then you might as well include Dr. Hinton as a fake Elvis hoax informer; because Dr. Hinton—the very one who helped write the book with Elvis/Jesse—said Elvis would come out publicly in the year 2002, but it didn’t happen {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.

And what about attorney Mayoras, who is an informer with Eliza’s case?  Back in May he said: “Eliza Presley’s court case is back on track and scheduled to come to a head this summer. … Stay tuned until this summer.  That’s when the real fun begins.” {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.  Summer is about over, so does “this summer” make him a fake informer?  By the way “This Summer” is the exact phrase that I used in my Update #6—along with two question marks {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.

Eliza herself knows that there can be delays, when you are dealing with court cases.  She said the following: “Of course, any time that you deal with the legal system, you cannot predict a time frame, can you?” {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.

Like everyone else involved in the MJ and Elvis hoaxes, I can’t give any certain dates for bam; I can only give possibilities.  And at this point, don’t be too surprised if nothing major happens until after Eliza and/or Murray cases are done.
 There are some interesting dates coming up: 10-10-10, Halloween, and November 5 (V for Vendetta); but as always, don’t put too much on any particular date.

What we do know for sure is that: “It’s all going to come out; it’s all going to unfold.” {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.  This is what Jermaine said back in February, 2010; and it was stated in the context of the “airport” slip, so we know he meant the hoax is all going to come out {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.

Jermaine also reiterated this again on Larry King interview in June, 2010.  “[Larry:] Do you think we’ll ever find out the whole story?  [Jermaine:] Yes!  Yes!  You know why, because his [MJ’s] family is not going to let it not happen. ... We’re going to do everything in our power as a family to make sure the world knows what really happened.” {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.

Yes, there have been delays; and as time passes, more members may leave this forum (and many have left already).  But don’t worry too much; they will all come rushing back right after bamsday—along with thousands and thousands of new members.

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I’m not going to take the time and space in this post, to explain the latest set of redirects; most of them were understood correctly anyway.  For those who want to see a list of them, LilWendy has done a great job of keeping track {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.  Also, don’t expect more redirects—at least not until there are significant developments with the Elvis/Eliza or MJ/Murray cases.

Meanwhile, anyone can promote this $999 reward through any method that you want.  But please do NOT reference You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login for the $999 reward, because sooner or later it will probably get redirected away from this post.  Instead, use You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login for the $999 reward (and I will ask Mo & Souza to put a link from that page to this post).

... and now it’s Time for me to Sign,

The Sign

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After 33 years of question and debate over whether Elvis Presley faked his death: we now have the strongest scientific proofs that he really did fake his death—and in fact, he is still alive to this very day!!!!!!!!  And this is not based on some lunatic fantasy whims, that Elvis is living on a paradise island; no, this is documented evidence which is so strong, that it’s the basis for a legal case which is already in court.  And to top it all off: there’s a good chance that this will all be hitting the news this summer!

PLEASE NOTE: for those who are too busy to read this entire article, at the very least read the first 2 sections (6-1 & 6-2).  The 16 sections are all the redirections for You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login (TIAI) from June 1 to 16 (with additional details related to each redirect).  If you are new to TIAI and the redirections, a few of the sections below might not make much sense; but don’t worry too much about that—if you have time later, you can read about TIAI in these TS posts {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.

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6-1 DNA and Other Scientific Evidence that Elvis Lives!
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Less than a month ago (on May 20, 2010), probate attorney Andrew W. Mayoras published the statements quoted in the next paragraph below, about the DNA evidence {for the full report, click the link above}.  For those who are entirely new to all this: Eliza is the lady who discovered DNA evidence that she is the half-sister of Elvis Presley—and to top it all off, the DNA also proves that Elvis is still alive!  Elvis lives in hiding, and has been going by the name “Jesse”—named after his twin brother, who was stillborn.

“These [DNA] reports show that Eliza and the person now referred to by many as ‘Jesse’ are half-siblings, and Jesse in turn is biologically related to the known cousins on both sides of the family tree to Elvis Presley.  Because Elvis never had any full siblings (other than a twin, Jessie, who was stillborn), no one else could match cousins on both sides but Elvis himself.  ... Eliza also sent the results to another independent DNA company to verify the results.  The lab owner, Dr. Donald Yates, said publicly that the DNA supported Eliza’s claim and that Jesse had to be Elvis.  And yes, he said, this means that Elvis is alive.  Here’s a Memphis newspaper article about it {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login]}. … if this was all a master scheme to defraud the public, through a court proceeding, why would they have done it knowing that it would be so easy for their plan to fall apart?  Elvis Presley Enterprises simply has to march into court with the DNA of Lisa Marie, or either one of the two cousins tested for that matter, and they could prove in a snap that it’s not true — unless, of course, it IS true. … I’m sorry, but I just don’t buy how they could have pulled all this off if it was a giant scam.  As hard as it was for me to believe, as an attorney, that Elvis may actually be alive, I find it much more believable that all this evidence is legitimate than Eliza and several others having engineered this entire scam years ago, knowing that it would involve testing of DNA.”

In addition to the DNA evidence, there are several other categories of evidence.  The following video clip is a cross-fade from Elvis to Jesse, and the face remains the same {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.  Section 6-4 (below) has this same picture, although it includes his whole body; and you can see Benjamin, the son of Lisa Marie Presley, sitting on Jesse’s lap.

Shirley Mason, a certified graphologist who worked for the Kansas City Bureau of Investigations for many years, analyzed letters from Elvis and from Jesse; her conclusion was that “she would testify in court, under oath, that Elvis ‘has to be ALIVE.’  She felt the handwriting was ‘UNMISTAKABLE’.  The attorney general’s office cleared Dr. Hinton of all charges.” {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login; You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login; You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.

Dr. Hinton, just mentioned above, worked with Jesse for years.  He also wrote a book, with the help of Jesse, titled: “The Truth About Elvis Aron Presley In His Own Words” {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.  As a result of all this, Dr. Hinton was charged with fraud; but after investigation (including the graphologist, above), he was cleared of all charges. {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login; You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.  Furthermore, FOX news said Dr. Hinton passed a lie detector test {at 1:11, You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.

The above four categories (DNA, photographic, graphologist, and lie detector) are very strong scientific evidence that Jesse is truly Elvis, and therefore he did fake his death.  Actually, there is a great deal more evidence than this that Elvis faked his death {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login; You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login; You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login; You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login; You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login; You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login; You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login; You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login; You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}

However, for the sake of keeping this fairly short, let’s stop here and notice some very clear reasons why Eliza’s story is not some elaborate fabrication.

If this was a big joke: it would be very easy for Graceland to disprove it (provide DNA); but they have not even tried.  Also, Eliza did not set out to prove that Elvis is alive; instead, she set out to find her real father—and unexpectedly stumbled across amazing evidence that Vernon Presley was her real father (and therefore that Jesse/Elvis is her half brother).  She is not asking for money, she only wants the public to know the truth; if she was trying to get tons of money, then that would probably raise questions about a possible motive for attempting a scam—but she is not.

Another interesting point is that Priscilla Presley knows the truth about Elvis, and did a movie in 1998 about Elvis being alive {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login; You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login; You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.  It is quite interesting that 1998 is a very significant number in relation to Michael Jackson, and his fake death (see 6-8, below).

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6-2 Double-bam: ElvisAndMJ.com
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Here are some videos, with some very amazing Elvis and MJ parallels—both before and after the “deaths” {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login; You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login; You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login; You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.

In Summary:
King of Rock / King of Pop
Graceland / Neverland
Lisa Marie Presley daughter / wife (no doubt MJ learned some hoax tips)
“Death” was claimed drug related, and heart related
“Died” at home
Taken to hospital in ambulance (even though already “dead”)
CPR on the way to hospital
Declared “dead” at hospital
Phony autopsy {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}
Investigation into doctor
Different middle name (Aron vs. Aaron / Joe vs. Joseph)
This Is Elvis / This Is It (films about Elvis & MJ, released after the “deaths”)
“Death” dates equals their own concert intro, related to space (see 6-9, below)
Other numerology (see 6-8, below)
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Lisa Marie Presley reported that Michael told her: “I am afraid that I am going to end up like him [Elvis], the way he did.” {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.  How did Elvis end up?  With a fake death; so MJ must have known about it, and expected to do the same.

Yes, the “deaths” of Elvis and MJ are so similar—that if one faked his death, then so did the other.  And now we can be certain that Elvis did fake his death, which means that we can also be certain that MJ faked his death!  In fact, in the category of clues: we have far more clues from MJ than from Elvis.

There are a few big differences.  One is the open casket for Elvis, versus closed casket for MJ.  Everyone said that it did not look like Elvis in the casket (some said it looked like a wax dummy); so MJ learned from that, and had a closed casket.  Another difference is that there were few if any clues from Elvis about a return/bam; but many such clues from MJ {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.  Even now, Elvis/Jesse is not interested in the spotlight; he wants to remain in privacy.  At least for Elvis, the concept of “bam” refers to the final court ruling on Eliza’s case, and/or the media reporting that he is still alive (rather than Elvis himself performing again, or even being seen by the public).

Whichever bam comes first (MJ or Elvis): everyone will then realize that the other one was most likely a fake death as well.  In fact, we really don’t even need to wait until either bam to claim the victory; the evidence is so strong right now, that nobody can get away with ridiculing either Elvis or MJ hoax fans anymore!

In fact, all you need to do is ask people to go to You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login; whether they are Elvis fans, or MJ fans, or anyone really—maybe we can even get the attention of the media!  This is an easy domain name to remember, and it’s already pointed to this thread (and it will stay here, even if TIAI redirects elsewhere).  Also, I will be watching this thread pretty closely; and if anyone posts ridicule or other non-evidence based objections, I will be here to call them on it (unless someone else does before I do).

For all those who have ridiculed MJ hoax fans, by saying that we are just like Elvis hoax fans: now we can heartily agree—and say yes, and in fact we now have the strongest proof that Elvis hoax fans were right all along!

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6-3 TMZ Series on Lisa Marie Presley
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Of course Lisa Marie is one of the major links between Elvis and MJ.  The sunflowers have already been discussed in great length; but this redirect was more to point out the timing of these six TMZ articles about LMP.  Notice that the very first mention of Elvis from TIAI was on 5-10 {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}; the redirect for 5-11 was merely announcing Update #5 coming soon.  Then on 5-12, at 5:12 AM (Pacific Time), TIAI Update (#5) was posted; later that same day, TMZ started the LMP series.

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6-4 Picture of Jesse with Benjamin
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This redirect was a picture of Jesse, with grandson Benjamin sitting on his lap.  To see the picture: click the link above, or one of these links {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login; You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.  That last link is a thread with some real good discussions, as well as other Elvis pictures for comparison.

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6-5 “I spoke with Elvis/Jesse”
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This webpage did not have an anchor at the right part of the page for a normal jump, so a “jumpless-pointer” was included in the URL.  Of course there are many things on the page of interest; but the most significant was that Linda had talked with Jesse one day prior to May 13, 2010—which means that Elvis is still alive now.  And we know that Linda is not a fake, because Eliza has a link to her page (see 6-7, below); and also because Linda was involved with Dr. Hinton, the one who was cleared of fraud charges {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.

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6-6 TIAI Update on 5-12, and the First Syllable of EL-VIS
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As mentioned already, TMZ started their LMP series on 5-12 (see 6-3, above).  On May 13, Linda said “I spoke with Elvis/Jesse yesterday” (see 6-5, above); this means that it would’ve been on 5-12, which again was the day of Update 5 being posted (and Update 5 had 12 sections).  Notice also that the first syllable of EL-VIS is EL; E = 5 (fifth letter), and L = 12 (twelfth letter): 5-12 once again!  Also, 5 + 1 + 2 = 8, which is the primary number in Elvis numerology (see 6-8, below).

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6-7 Eliza Presley’s Website, With Link to Linda’s Website
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This redirect was both for the purpose of showing Eliza’s website, and also for showing that Eliza links to Linda’s website (mentioned in 6-5, above).  And notice the timing of the following entries, in relation to the TIAI Elvis redirect on 5-10-2010; as well as the TIAI Update #5a to #5d on 5-12 to 5-19 {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login; You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.

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6-8 Elvis & MJ Numerology
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This redirect was on the 8th day of the month, because 8 is the primary number in the Elvis “death” numerology.  Elvis “died” on 8-16-1977.  The month and day add up to 24 (8 + 16= 24); and the year adds up to 24 (1 + 9 + 7 + 7 = 24).  And 24 is 8 + 8 + 8 (888); similar to the MJ numerology 777 & 999 (see below).  Elvis was also born on the 8th day of the month (1-8-1935).  And Elvis/Jesse has confirmed that this numerology and exact “death” date was planned, and done intentionally {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.

Since MJ learned from Elvis: this proves that the MJ numerology was also planned, and is not some astronomical coincidence.  Since it was planned, then this shows once again that the numerology does indeed explain some of the reasons for the MJ death hoax.  Below is a brief overview of some of the MJ numerology.  {For more details, see: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login; You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login; You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login;  You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.

MJ had “777” on his red shirt in “THIS IS IT” {also on the History album cover, etc; You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.  

MJ had 1998 on the cover of the Dangerous album, and also signed this number on many autographs.  1998 / 2 = 999; 1 + 998 = 999, 1 + 9 + 9 + 8 = 27, 2 + 7 = 9; etc.  Also, “THIS IS IT” has three vowels, III = 999 (9th letter of the alphabet).

The “death” was 77 days from 9-9-09 (999), and the burial was 7 days from 9-9-09; this makes three sevens (777) linked directly with 9-9-09.  {Note: you must use inclusive reckoning; see 4-10 in Update #4b, You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.  The burial was on a full moon (to the naked eye), and one day before the official full moon.

The memorial was on the 7th day of the 7th month, 7 years after the date on the will; again, three sevens (777).  The memorial was also on a full moon (the official full moon, in this case).

And there are three sevens (777) in the timing of the 911 call (12:21) and the “death” (2:26).  Also, the 911 call was placed at 12:21, because this number is divisible by 111—along with almost all of the MJ hoax numbers; in fact, “THIS IS IT” is 111 minutes long.  Finally, the 12:21 call relates to the date 12-21-2012.

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6-9 Elvis & MJ “Death” Dates Equal Concert Intro
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Add the day, month, and year together: 8 + 16 + 1977 = 2001.  This is the name of a film about space, which was a favourite of Elvis—so much so, that he used the song from it to open his concerts {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login; You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.

Did MJ learn about this as well, and incorporate the same numerology clue into his own fake death?  Yes, indeed he did!  6 + 25 + 2009 = 2040.  This is the year that MJ had clearly shown on the bottom of the space ship, in his concert intro!  {See 0:15, You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login; You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}

This again proves that MJ planned his “death” to the very day, many years ago (as I have said all along).  And why would 6-25-2009 need to be the exact day?  Not for the memorial on 7-7-09; the “death” could’ve been before or after 6-25, and still had the memorial on the full moon July 7.  It’s because 6-25-09 is the only day that is 77 days from 9-9-09; and this locks in 999 with the MJ numerology, as well as 1998 and all the rest.

If there are still some who say that they don’t believe in the numbers: don’t let them off the hook that easily; be nice, but be firm!  Ask why they don’t believe in the numbers; and ask them to calculate the odds that these numbers were all coincidence.  If they are not mathematical, then find a math teacher!  If they really want to know the truth, and they are truly investigating, then this is the way to find out the truth.  But if they don’t want to bother with any of this, then it would show that the real problem is not in the numbers; the real problem is that they don’t want the truth.

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6-10 Are TIAI Posts Too Long?
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MJFAN7 wrote: “... I wasn’t looking forward to reading the long posts about TIAI Revealed until I started reading them. Then I couldn’t stop!”  This is good advice, especially for those who have spent a year now investigating and researching the hoax—and yet have not spent a few days reading posts which make very clear the when, why, and even the some of the how.

On this day (6-10), discussion turned once again to the subject of who is behind TIAI and TS posts.  This has been brought up repeatedly, and I have repeatedly asked: does it matter?  What’s important is the accuracy of the information presented (see 6-12, below).  If it’s full of holes, then step up and state your case; and if not, then accept it.

For your information: I am familiar with the STUDY website.  Does this mean that it is me, my website?  Maybe; or maybe it’s someone I know; or maybe that website was used as a decoy.  Regardless of which is the actual case: you are being tested, to see whether you can unbiasedly assess evidence based upon the evidence itself—and not on who the evidence came from, or who you think it came from, etc.

Many are failing the test, and they didn’t even know that they were being tested.  In fact, there is no better way to test people, than to do it without their knowledge; then people act natural, and don’t try to make themselves into something artificial.  Does it make any difference, whether you pass or fail this test?  Good question; but I won’t give the answer to that right now.

However, I will give another hint on my identity, and the source for my information: so far, I have only seen one discussion that was correct.  Should Jacksons tweet about This Is Also It, as some have suggested, so that there will be no doubt?  Actually, I already addressed this very question in Update #2 {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.  See also Update 5a, section 5-2, comment about 5-5 redirect: a very similar tweet that was also from Jermaine {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.

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6-11 Some Elvis Fans Have “Kept the Faith” for More than 30 Years!
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Quoting from that redirect: “It never ceases to amaze me how quickly the doubts creep in as soon as something ‘new’ happens. ... When the doubts do creep in, read over the hoax summary threads and especially TS’s posts. But most importantly, keep the faith and the L.O.V.E. alive.”

It reminds me of this passage, from James: “But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering. For he that wavereth is like a wave of the sea driven with the wind and tossed.  For let not that man think that he shall receive any thing of the Lord.  A double minded man is unstable in all his ways.” (James 1:6-8).

Many Elvis fans have kept the faith for more than 30 years—with less clues than we have about MJ; it puts some of us MJ hoax fans to shame!  With all the evidence we have now, especially with Elvis being alive: there is no need to waver anymore over whether MJ is alive—he has already gone back and forth from alive to dead, and back to alive again, hundreds of times!  Has anybody else ever died that many times???     :lol:  :lol:

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There were some good comments for the day, on this redirect {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.  One of the main reasons for this redirect, however, was again because of the questions and discussion that came up about my identity, etc (see 6-10, above).

And for those who still aren’t sure if TS has inside information: one more time, here is the TIAI list of predictions, etc—with the latest Elvis ones added.  Please note that these are merely reminders; if you are new, some of these might not make sense without reading all of the TS posts first.

#1. MJ investigation complete, only two days after TIAI announced Update #1.
#2. 333 pages of FBI files, planned release on same day as TIAI Revealed.
#3. $9.99 while LaToya shopping, connecting with “99” days after 9-9-09.
#4. Six 911 articles on TMZ, the day after TIAI conspiracies on Google (911, etc).
#5. Murray on TMZ news four times, the same day as the TIAI Murray redirect.
#6. Vendetta on 11-5; Evan Chandler / Emerald City on 11-17 (70th anniversary).
#7. 2012 trailer, a week before “Jackson” and many other MJ parallels came out.
#8. TII Resurrection scene in a graveyard (not funeral & casket, etc).
#9. TII would Reveal the hoax (Smooth Criminal, no RIP, BAM statement, etc).
#10. TII would show the MJ “Return” (this very word is now on the DVD).
#11. 1998 autograph codes; 77 days & 7 days all pointed to 9-9-09, fulfilled by several TII and MJ related events.
#12. ALLJACK5ONS tweet on 1-18 about TIAI “Revealed” (also the 3-11 tweet).
#13. TMZ clue on January 25.
#14. TMZ, Murray, and murder versus hoax clue on February 5.
#15. High probability of “piece by piece” return starting in January (see #12, etc).
#16. Autopsy finalized 9-9-09, released just one day after I said “9-9-09 update”.
#17. TIAI redirect to TMZ, less than an hour before the big MJ Killed Himself post.
#18. Update #4 (4-44), #17 article posted on 4-4 at 4:00 AM (444).
#19. Elvis redirect on 5-10, several Elvis events happen from 5-12 to 5-20 (next).
#20. Update 5 (with 12 sections) on 5-12 at 5:12 AM; later that day TMZ starts LMP series from 5-12 to 5-17.  Also, Linda talks to Jesse on 5-12.
#21. The final part of TIAI Update (#5d) is posted evening of 5-19 (CA time).  On 5-19, Eliza posted a message on her homepage, for the first time in about four months; then on 5-20, the article by attorney Mayoras was posted (6-1, above).

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6-13 TIAI Update #5 (by MJalive999)
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This video is a good overview of Update #5 {see also the second half, You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.  This was a good review, for some who were having doubts creep in (see 6-11, above).  A similar video set was also done by MJDHI {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.

Both of these video sets include a list of questions, from Update #5d.  So far, I haven’t seen anyone even attempt to answer more than two or three of the questions; and the attempted answers have been rather shallow.

For example on the MJHDI YouTube video page {see last link above}, there was an answer to this question: “F2. Are we to believe that MJ’s own family is ignorant of his role in the Liberian Girl video?  And if not, then why did they allow Liberian Girl pictures to dominate both the memorial and the burial?  Would they be so cruel, as to send fans the message that he is hiding behind the camera and running The Show—if in reality MJ was actually dead???”

Here is the answer: “Liberian Girl picture was beautiful that’s why they used it ...”; at least this is a genuine attempt at answering!  It’s a thousand times better than mere ridicule—which is what almost everyone resorts to, when they can’t deal with the evidence.  However, it still leaves 20 out of 21 questions unanswered.  Furthermore, this answer infers that all other MJ pictures are NOT “beautiful”—so in order to have beautiful pictures, they were stuck PRIMARILY using Liberian Girl pictures!?!

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6-14 Dots Of TMZ Show
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In Update #5, the first letter in each section title spelled out “Dots Of TMZ Show”.  Also, the title itself had dots in it: DO you Think 4 your Self?  Furthermore, as lilwendy figured out {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}, there were also “dots within the dots” (Dots Of TMZ Show).  I’m not sure if anyone noticed that the last half of “DOTS” is “TS”.  

TMZ officially stands for “Thirty Mile Zone” {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.  However, many hoaxers refer to it as “The Michael Zone”; and yes, as whisper figured out, the first word of each section title in Update #5c spelled out “The Michael Zone” {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.

“Dots Of TMZ Show” was the redirect for the Murray court day; and yes, TMZ did have a show on that day.  However, this redirect referred to more than just the one day; it also refers to connecting the dots both before and after June 14.

When connecting dots, you can look for the first letter in each line—such as Serenitys_Dream and others have done.  However, be sure to look for more than just the first letter in each line.  Sometimes the message is in the pictures, or article titles, etc.  In fact, sometimes the dots are in articles which are not even MJ related—such as the “Still Alive” heading, on the 6-14 Murray court day {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.

As stated in Update #5c, however, TMZ dots are not the basis for believing in the hoax; so don’t use these as “proof” for non-believers.  The TMZ show dots are hints and clues for those who already know that MJ is “still alive”.

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6-15 Running Out of Ideas?
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This actually goes back to a thread from April 2; several on that thread thought that TS was “running out of ideas”.  What do you think—looking back over the redirects and updates from April, May, and June—were they right?

Even now, I am not running out of ideas; actually, everything covered so far has just been an introductory course.   :o     But most people think that what I’ve written already is far too much; so how is even more going to help them?

Yes, this redirect also had the “BAM” in the signature.  Especially in view of that last paragraph: Update #7 most likely will not be before bamsday—whether that is in June, July, or later.  There may be more redirects, but probably not on a regular or daily basis.

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6-16 (Waiting for) Update #6
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Just like all the other TIAI updates, there is an important date associated with the final section in this update: 6-16.  June 16, 2010 is two months until the 33rd anniversary of the Elvis fake death, and 9 days until the 1st anniversary of the MJ fake death.

And when bamsday does come—whether sooner or later, there will of course be great rejoicing!  But don’t expect things to just go back to entertainment as usual; as you already know, if you’ve read all the TIAI/TS posts, there will be a major battle ahead (Army of LOVE).  And remember the following, from Threatened lyrics {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}: “What you have just witnessed could be the end of a particularly terrifying nightmare.  It isn’t.  It’s the beginning.”

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TIAI Update #5d: DO you Think 4 your Self?


5-9. Statistics and Opportunities of a Coincidence

There were many very positive responses to the hoax numerology and timing, described in Update #4 {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}; however, as might be expected, there have been a few comments against the numerology.  So this section will be a response to the arguments used against the hoax numbers.

First of all: is numerology inherently evil, or is it something that can be used either for good or for evil (like almost everything else that exists)?  The occult, the Illuminati, and other evil powers use numerology; but this doesn’t make it evil, anymore than their usage of letters and words makes the alphabet inherently evil.  God gave us all a brain, and He expects us to use our intellectual talents to understand why things are good or evil—not just mindlessly label something as evil, without any reason (see Isaiah 1:18; Hebrews 5:11-14; 1 Peter 3:15; etc).

For those who believe the Bible, there is no question that numerology can be used for good.  Even the infamous number 666 does not always represent evil (see Ezra 2:13).  Furthermore, the 666 number comes from the Bible; and even though the number refers to an evil beast, yet it is the Bible—NOT the beast—that uses numerology here to communicate a message (a message of warning about the beast).  “Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.” (Revelation 13:18).  The Bible also has a lot of other numerology in it, especially in the books of Revelation and Daniel.

Shortly after Update #4, one thread said that MJ was a star, not a mathematician; therefore this is not a hoax, MJ is dead.  But although he’s not a professional mathematician, yet he is a genius; and no doubt he can understand the math, especially since in this case the math is quite simple.  The hoax numerology and timing is very complex in the planning, and also the execution.  Yet the calculation of it is very simple—on an elementary school level, which many children could do with a pen and paper (or some could even do in their head).  And anyone who can operate a simple calculator can easily calculate the hoax math.

Furthermore, somebody had to plan all the numbers and timing—the only question is whether it was planned for a hoax, a murder, or a suicide.  These things have been examined in previous updates; but many are still wavering, so we’re going to look at it again with some new details (in 5-10, below).

Another idea was that MJ wouldn’t go to all this trouble planning and executing the numerology and timing, just for the sake of a few hoax believers.  However, you could say the same thing about all the other hoax clues.  The fact is that Gilda, the numbers, and the other clues are not merely for believers now; they are especially for convincing the general public at the right time, so that they will realize that it was all planned in advance.  Then when MJ comes back: it will be very hard to claim that the real MJ is dead, and the bam MJ is just a double.

There was also an objection to the idea that the 911 call was planned for a specific time (12:21 = December 21, 2012); it was claimed that you couldn’t plan it for an exact minute, because the line might be busy.  But 911 is not busy very often; and even if it had been busy the first try, there was nearly a whole minute left to hang up and dial again.

This is why the call was placed just a few seconds after 12:21—you wouldn’t want to call one second early, or it would still be 12:20; but you wouldn’t want to wait until 12:21 and 30 seconds either, or that would reduce the time left in the minute (before 12:22) to hang up and keep trying just in case it was busy.  So 12:21 and 4 seconds fits very well, with the 911 caller waiting for a second or two after 12:21—and then pushing a 911 speed-dial button {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login; You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.

Another objection was the usage of 1 + 998 = 999.  True, it’s not normal to add the first digit to the last digit(s); however, this same process also works with 1776 (1 + 776 = 777), and even 1221 (1 + 221 = 222).

Also, if this process was the only method to arrive at 999 from 1998, then I agree that it would be going out on a limb.  However, this method was only one of many ways to show that 1998 refers to 9-9-09 and the hoax: 1998 / 2 = 999; the Dangerous formula (1998 - 666 = 1332, / 4 = 333, + 666 = 999); 1 + 9 + 9 + 8 = 27, 2 + 7 = 9; 1998 & 999 in the title, “THIS IS IT”; movie poster on 9-9-09; autopsy finalized on 9-9-09; Elvis is alive in “Finding Graceland” film, by Priscilla Presley, in 1998 {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}; etc.

And speaking of Elvis, there is also numerology and timing with his death date: 8 + 16 + 1977 = 2001.  This is the name of a film, which had the same music that Elvis used to open his concerts {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login; You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.  It is unlikely that this was just chance.  However, it’s far more likely for this to happen by chance, than for all the MJ numbers to be an unplanned colossal coincidence.

In fact, in order to better understand whether or not something is likely to happen by chance, let’s take a (relatively) brief look at the statistical odds and opportunities of a coincidence.  This may be a little heavy for those who are not fond of math; but if you have trouble following it, ask a math teacher or a friend who is good at math to verify these concepts.

For a relatively simple example: let’s first look at the odds of rolling a pair of dice, and having them both come up with 1 (snake eyes).  If you have only one die, there are 6 different possibilities (1,2,3,4,5,6); this means you would have 1 chance in 6 of rolling a 1.  But with a pair of dice: you do not have merely 12 chances (6 plus 6), instead you have 36 chances (6 times 6).  Please, remember that for more than one thing to happen by coincidence, you must multiply the possibilities (not add them).  See the table below, for all 36 possibilities on a pair of dice.

1,1 - 2,1 - 3,1 - 4,1 - 5,1 - 6,1
1,2 - 2,2 - 3,2 - 4,2 - 5,2 - 6,2
1,3 - 2,3 - 3,3 - 4,3 - 5,3 - 6,3
1,4 - 2,4 - 3,4 - 4,4 - 5,4 - 6,4
1,5 - 2,5 - 3,5 - 4,5 - 5,5 - 6,5
1,6 - 2,6 - 3,6 - 4,6 - 5,6 - 6,6

However, we must not forget (as many do) the opportunities of a coincidence.  In other words, if you rolled the pair of dice once, it’s possible but not likely that you would get snake eyes on the first roll.  But if you increase the opportunities to several hundred (you keep rolling the dice over and over, for hours): then it is almost certain that the 1-chance-in-36 possibility will actually occur strictly by chance.

In the real world, things rarely operate as simple as a pair of dice: with 6 distinctly different outcomes, all sharing equal probability of any particular outcome.  Say for example if the dice had lead weights on one side of them, in that case they would tend to land one way up more frequently (on the average) than another way up.  Factors such as this are usually involved in real world events, and the result is that it can be very difficult or impossible to calculate the exact statistical odds for a certain event to happen by sheer coincidence.  Nevertheless, the exact odds don’t need to be known, in order to determine whether something really did happen by random chance—or by intelligent design.

For a somewhat simple specific example, what are the odds that the 911 call timing was just chance (12:21 and 4 seconds)?  The exact second was not important, but it was important to call shortly after the minute (to give more time for redial, if necessary).  This means that if the call came in more than 10 seconds after the minute, then maybe the caller was not waiting to call right after the start of the minute.  Since there is 60 seconds in a minute, then there is about 1 chance in 6 that the call came in by coincidence during those first 10 seconds.

Far more significant, is the odds that the hour and minute was 12:21, and not some other time.  There are 24 hours in a day, and 60 minutes in each hour; this means that there was one chance in 1,440 that the 911 call was placed at 12:21, and not some other time.

Yet we must not forget the opportunities factor.  It would be possible for a 911 emergency called to be placed at 12:21 AM (although in that case, it might be published as 00:21); with 2 opportunities, we divide 1,440 in half and now it’s 1 chance in 720.  Then we multiply the odds of the seconds, from above: 720 x 6 = 4,320.  So even without any of the other MJ “death” numerology timing: just the 911 call alone has only 1 chance in 4,320 that the timing was coincidence, and not planned!

To be honest, though, we must recognize that 12:21 is not the only time of day which could’ve happened by chance—and yet be a significant number related to MJ and his “death”.  For example, 11:05 could’ve represented November 5 (V for Vendetta); so this is yet another opportunity for a coincidence.

However, 1,105 is not a multiple of 111 like 1,221 (and the rest of the hoax numerology).  Further, although there are interesting parallels in the “V” movie {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}—yet the 2012 movie (12-21 2012) is the one with the “Jackson” character, and they thought he was dead (but he was alive), and also it’s the movie with the four more years (from 2009) that MJ mentioned in TII {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.  Many think the four years would end in 2013; but this is another example of inclusive reckoning, you round up and count part of a year as one year: 2009 (1), 2010 (2), 2011 (3), 2012 (4).

Most other important hoax numbers do not exist on the clock: 7:77, 9:99, 17:76, 19:98.  The basic hoax number would be pretty good, 1:11; however, even this is not as good as 12:21.  The TII movie length is 111 minutes.  You can’t have the film be 1,221 minutes long; so if both the 911 call and the TII film were 111, then one of the most important numbers in the hoax (12-21, end of the world) would be missing.  Also, 1:11 (911 call) and 3:16 (death time, 2 hours & 5 minutes later on June 25) would not make 777, like 12:21 and 2:26 {see 4-24, You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.

So even though we have a few other opportunities for a nice number by coincidence, 12:21 (and a few seconds) is the ideal time if it was planned.  So again, there is 1 chance 4,320 that this 911 call came in at the ideal time by coincidence, and not by plan.

But this is just one of the numerous hoax numbers.  To keep this from getting any longer, we’ll skip calculating the rest of the timing numerology, such as: 111 (minutes in TII); 777 in 12:21 (911 call) and 2:26 (death); 777 in memorial (on a full moon); 777 in death and burial (to 9-9-09); 9-9-09 for autopsy finalized, and TII poster (and movie 7 weeks later); 999 in THIS IS IT (vowels); 1998 in HIS (backwards); 1998 on Dangerous cover, and several autographs; etc.

What are the odds that all of these things happened by coincidence, and not by plan?  You would need to calculate each one separately (like the 12:21 odds, above); then you would have to multiply each separate answer.  The odds are no doubt in trillions or more!  To make it even clearer, for those who want to say that this is all coincidence: there is only one chance that they are right, and trillions of chances that they are wrong.

Yes, MJ planned the numerology and timing so thoroughly, that it cannot possibly be refuted.  It is bullet-proof.  Try it, and see.  Challenge a mathematician or statistician to show that this could’ve possibly all been random chance; they can’t do it!  In fact, trying to discredit it will only make it more powerful.  The beauty of truth is that it can stand up to any and all opposition!

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5-10. Hoax, Accident, Murder, or Suicide?

Speaking of truth: some have questioned why the TIAI information is cold or mechanical, and not very flowery or intimate; and a similar question has been asked, why I don’t respond to PM’s, etc.  When the time is right, the reasons for these things will be very clear.  Yet to a certain extent, I will attempt to explain (or re-explain) these things now; and then more fully, at the right time.

I already spend a very large amount of time on the redirects and updates, etc.  So I really don’t have time left to communicate on other levels, as well (PM, e-mail, etc); sorry, but that’s just the way that it is (at least for now).

If the information comes across as cold: please recognize that it is cold in the sense of being cold-hard evidence, but not coming from a cold or hard heart.  In fact, although I have complimented numerous people by name (or username) in this forum and elsewhere: I have never once mentioned any forum member by name in a negative context.  At times, I have responded to specific complaints, etc; but in those cases, I have not given any name (or link to the statement that I am responding to).  I have done this because I’m not here to hurt anyone’s feelings; I’m only here to defend truth.

Since this website is for MJDH INVESTIGATORS: I do my best to provide cold-hard tangible evidence for the sake of investigation—not for the sake of exhilaration!  If investigation leads to truth which makes you happy, that’s great!  But consider it as a bonus, and not the ultimate purpose.  The ultimate purpose for genuine investigation is to find out the truth—regardless of whether the truth you find makes you happy or sad, etc.

In fact, many non-believers have accused us of thinking that MJ is alive merely because we are in denial, and don’t want to accept that he is dead.  But if we are real investigators, then our feelings should not get in the way of our investigation.  We should want to know if he is really dead; and if he’s really alive, then we should be able to back it up with cold-hard facts, not mere wishful fantasies.

This is why the information that I provide is, for the most part, cold-hard evidence.  In fact, beware of anyone who tries to convince you of anything whatsoever (whether related to MJ or not)—based primarily upon warm fuzzies, and not upon good solid evidence.  Personally, I never have and never will try to convince you of anything, without some fairly strong evidence to back it up.

And this is why I have spent a lot of time on the hoax numerology.  It may seem cold, dry, and mechanical; but it is tangible evidence, that you can sink your teeth into.  It is positively not based upon feelings; and at least for those who understand statistics, it is a category of hard evidence stands head and shoulders above all of the other evidence.  As stated in the title of Update #4, it truly is the “Greatest Proof of Hoax, Not Murder”.

One idea expressed against the numerology was that the numbers are not what we should focus on; rather, we should focus on the real good clues like “pains” in the memorial.  This person most likely has not spent years in music production.  If this was a murder plot: it would be very easy to edit the “s” sound into the audio.  We could even do it back in the analogue days, when everything was on tape; but now with computers and digital, it’s a thousand times easier.

The “s” may be evidence that something is strange; but it isn’t the least evidence against murder.  And there are many other clues that have been found and discussed, and yet could be from a murder plot, not a hoax plot.  This is why I focus mainly on the clues from MJ himself before the “death”, and from the rest of the family; these are the sources for clues that are the most reliable (least likely to be involved with murder).

Much of the numerology and timing came from MJ before the “death”; and even after 6-25-09, the family was involved in the memorial and burial timing (as well as the Liberian Girl pictures, etc).

Next to the numerology, Gilda is the greatest proof of hoax, not murder—because it comes from MJ himself.  Being a big fan of old movies: no doubt MJ knew that Mundson/Macready, who faked his death, shared the same birthday with MJ {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login; You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.  Yet this is not nearly as strong as the numerology—because Gilda by coincidence is one chance in thousands (the quantity of Hollywood movies available for MJ to remake, especially old ones); but the numerology timing by chance is one chance in trillions or more.

Quite the opposite of the numerology being useless, it is actually the key which unlocks the rest of the hoax: when, why, how, who, etc.  It shows the “when”, with all the times that were planned; and it also shows that it was planned for many years—which rules out the idea that MJ got sick, and all of sudden decided to fake his death, or any other “last-minute” fake death theories (almost died, but was revived at UCLA, etc).

The 12:21 and the 9-9-09 show some of the major “why’s” of the hoax: the end of the world is near (12-21-2012); turn the NWO upside down (666 to 999); and 777 + 999 = 1776 represents the greatest demonstration for freedom (July 4, 1776), as well as exposing the Illuminati (May 1, 1776), etc.

Although the “how” and “who” of the hoax are not as important as the “when” and especially “why”—yet the numerology does give a few clues even in these areas.  It shows some of the “how”—such as no MJ double just happened to die at the exact year, day, and hour.  It shows that MJ does have some help from government agents: 333 FBI pages released (the Dangerous formula); and on top of that, it was planned for release on the end of the world date: 12-21 (except it got delayed one day by bad weather).  This in turn helps to explain some of the legality questions, etc.

The numerology even shows some of the “who”: such as Kenny Ortega, TII director; he would be the one to have the poster come out on 9-9-09, and release the film 7 weeks later, and edit the duration to 111 minutes (and add the bam after the credits, etc).  This also explains why Kenny was closely involved with the memorial and burial {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login; You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login; You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login; You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.  The family did not think that he was a murderer, even though some had already mentioned murder before the burial.

Last but not least: the numerology shows very powerfully that the MJ “death” was not an accident (homicide), or murder (intentional), or suicide.  It couldn’t be an accident, because few if any of the times would’ve happened by chance.  Murder is a little more plausible, because it would provide a source for all the timing being planned.  However, the huge problem here is that the family was involved in at least some of the timing (like the burial).

Worse yet, MJ is the source of much of the numbers and timing; so if MJ was involved in planning his own murder, it would qualify more as assisted suicide.  And again, would the family help him carry out a suicide plan?  Would they go along with the Liberian Girl pictures, as well as the hoax numerology timing?

For some strange reason, there are people who must want to believe that MJ is really dead—in spite of all the evidence.  Well, even though suicide with the help of the family is totally bizarre: it fits the evidence far better than the accident or murder theory!

So for those who just can’t resist the urge to think that MJ is really dead, here is some excellent advice from jacilovesmichael (redirect for 4-8).  “And think of this: even if he did kill himself, there’s no way it was an accident. I would never believe in that theory. But either way, he has exposed the lies in the media and the corruption in our world. And either way, everything was planned. Dead or alive, I’ve been awakened by what ever happened or didn’t happen on June 25th.”

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5-11. Operation: “Think 4 your Self”

Several people have said (here on MJDHI, and elsewhere) that they don’t accept TIAI, or the hoax in general, etc—because they can think for themselves!  Well, almost anyone can think for themselves (other than maybe a few in the Special Olympics, LOL—no disrespect intended, they are precious).  But the title to Update #5 here is not, “CAN you Think 4 your Self?”—instead, the title is: “DO you Think 4 your Self?”

One person even said on the TMZ comments, that they were sure MJ was a paedophile because: “I can think for myself!”  But if someone merely says that they can think, is this any proof that they actually do—and/or that their conclusions are accurate?  Don’t you think it would be much more convincing: if they stopped wasting time claiming that they can think, and started demonstrating their ability??  So here is an opportunity for them to actually show the ability to think.  I call it the “Think 4 your Self” quiz.

NOTE: M, S, & F questions are primarily for non-believers (or those who are wavering); the rest of the questions are for believers, especially those who don’t know about or don’t agree with the TIAI reasons for the hoax.

Michael:

M1. After watching MJ videos including Thriller and Ghosts: is there any reason why MJ would not have thought to do a real life Thriller—especially since he was married to LMP, and the Elvis hoax death theory is very well known?

M2. If MJ did plan a hoax death, is there any time that would fit better with a full moon (Thriller) and 777 than: 6-25-09 death (77 days to 9-9-09), 7-7-09 memorial (full moon & 7 years from will), 9-3-09 burial (7 days to 9-9-09, & almost full moon), and all the other numerology?

M3. Being a big fan of old movies, and also choosing to remake Gilda in TII: it’s not possible that MJ was unaware of Mundson/Macready faking his death in Gilda (and also sharing MJ’s birthday).  So if MJ was not planning on faking his death: would he be so cruel as to include Gilda in TII, and make his fans think he was planning a hoax death when in reality he was not?

Statistics:

S1. Even if MJ was unaware of the hoax death in Gilda: what are the chances that he accidentally did a remake of a fake death by an actor sharing his own birthday?

S2. What are the odds that all the hoax numerology and timing is merely coincidence (and show your calculations, not just your answer)?

S3. Things which occur randomly, and are not planned, will happen more than once.  So can you give at least one example of a similar death timing, that happened by chance—where the timing repeatedly fit with specific three-digit and/or four-digit numbers (not single-digit numbers), numbers that were emphasized by that same person before the death (hint: neither Elvis nor 2pac come anywhere close)?

Family:

F1. From the death to the burial more than two months later, why did we never see a single tear shed from a single family member (not even Paris, in her touching speech at the memorial)?  And why did the children looked bored at the memorial?  And why did the adults all wear dark glasses (so that we could not see the tears, or not see the lack of tears)?

F2. Are we to believe that MJ’s own family is ignorant of his role in the Liberian Girl video?  And if not, then why did they allow Liberian Girl pictures to dominate both the memorial and the burial?  Would they be so cruel, as to send fans the message that he is hiding behind the camera and running The Show—if in reality MJ was actually dead???

F3. Why was the burial delayed for a world-record longest time?  And why did the family schedule it for 9-3-09: unless it had to do with the 7 days to 9-9-09, and the full moon (on 9-4-09)?

EOW:

E1. If the numerology and timing is not a coincidence (see M2 & S2): then why was the 911 call placed immediately at 12:21, unless it was to show that one of the main reasons for the hoax is to warn about the end of the world (that it’s near—even if it’s not at the end of the Mayan calendar, 2012)?

E2. Why did MJ specifically mention four more years in TII, unless he was referring to 2012 (and also the Sony movie with “Jackson” in it, etc)?

E3. MJ reads the Bible daily; and according to it, there will be an end to this world—and that end will come prior to the “new earth” (see Revelation 21:1; etc).  The memorial program actually mentioned that MJ looks forward to the new earth.  With these things in mind, how is it possible that the end of the world is not part of MJ’s message?

NWO:

N1. Also in the Bible, a one-world government/religion is prophesied to rise near the end of the world (see Revelation 17; etc).  So if MJ’s message includes warning about the end of the world, how is it possible that his message does not also include a warning about the New World Order?

N2. If MJ does not believe in conspiracies from secret societies and our own governments: then why did he say that the grassy knoll is “truth” (Tabloid Junkie), and who does “they” refer to in TDRCAU (with the pyramid and eye, etc)?

N3. Who is behind the “conspiracy” that MJ was talking about, when he mentioned that our history books have been changed?

Bam:

B1. If MJ never does bam: how is he going to succeed in getting the main messages (EOW, NWO, etc) to the billions in the world?

B2. If you accept the clues which show that MJ is alive: then why don’t you accept that the very same clues (in many cases) also show that he will be back (bam)?

B3. TIAI says that there will be a bamsday, the only question is when.  So is this reliable (if you say no, then please answer T1, T2, & T3, next)?

TIAI:

T1. How did TS end up with the You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login domain?  If you say it was just a coincidence, then what are the odds (how many other MJ fans are there, including non-believers, who could’ve bought that domain after the Huffington Post article came out)?

T2. If TS is merely a hoax investigator, without any special source for hoax information: then why for nearly a year now did nobody else figure out the seven layers in “THIS IS IT” (as well as most of the other numerology and timing—777, 999, 1776, 1998, etc)?

T3. Can you explain all 18 in 5-12, below?  And if you say that they are all coincidences: then can you demonstrate that you understand how to calculate the statistics, and show your calculations for the odds of all 18 by chance (like I did above, with 12:21:04 for the 911 call)?

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5-12. Will You Be There?

Because there are many new believers reading these updates—and also to help verify even further that TS does understand MJ’s message correctly, and the main reasons for the hoax: it’s time to review again the TIAI & STUDY predictions, etc.  So here is the last list (from Update #3, on February 7); with a few newer items added (#15 to #18).

#1. MJ investigation complete, only two days after TIAI announced Update #1.
#2. 333 pages of FBI files, planned release on same day as TIAI Revealed.
#3. $9.99 while LaToya shopping, connecting with “99” days after 9-9-09.
#4. Six 911 articles on TMZ, the day after TIAI conspiracies on Google (911, etc).
#5. Murray on TMZ news four times, the same day as the TIAI Murray redirect.
#6. Vendetta on 11-5; Evan Chandler / Emerald City on 11-17 (70th anniversary).
#7. 2012 trailer, a week before “Jackson” and many other MJ parallels came out.
#8. TII Resurrection scene in a graveyard (not funeral & casket, etc).
#9. TII would Reveal the hoax (Smooth Criminal, no RIP, BAM statement, etc).
#10. TII would show the MJ “Return” (this very word is now on the DVD).
#11. 1998 autograph codes; 77 days & 7 days all pointed to 9-9-09,
         fulfilled by several TII and MJ related events.
#12. ALLJACK5ONS tweet on 1-18 about TIAI “Revealed” (also the 3-11 tweet).
#13. TMZ clue on January 25.
#14. TMZ, Murray, and murder versus hoax clue on February 5.
#15. High probability of “piece by piece” return starting in January (see #12, etc).
#16. Autopsy finalized 9-9-09, released just one day after I said “9-9-09 update”.
#17. TIAI redirect to TMZ, less than an hour before the big MJ Killed Himself post.
#18. Update #4 (4-44), #17 article posted on 4-4 at 4:00 AM (444).

In addition to these things, have I ever stated anything that was incorrect (for the resurrection, return, and hoax revealed predictions: see 5-5, above)?  Notice that I never said Conrad Murray was merely a computer generated image (which many said early in the hoax); now we know that he is a real, 3-D person—not just a 2-D computer-generated image.

Actually, there are many other wrong theories out there; but I won’t go into them now.  I have already gone into great lengths on the most important aspects: the main reasons for the hoax, and the strongest evidences that this is a hoax (not accident, murder, or suicide).

We are now coming up on the third time, when there is a good opportunity for a bam (Halloween and January in the past, now maybe June or July).  Like the other times, one main factor (though not the only factor) is how prepared we are for the stampede after bamsday.  There are still many hoax believers on MJDHI and other forums, who don’t read the updates and/or don’t think that NWO & EOW is MJ’s message.  If we keep waiting for them to inform themselves, they probably never will.  But those who do read these updates can help, if you want to: will you be there?  If so, read on.

You can help both before and after bamsday.  This applies to all forums out there, not just MJDHI.  It probably won’t help to just ask others to read the updates; many will not, because they are long and/or other reasons.  But you can be familiar with the updates; and then you can be ready with the right questions and/or answers, whenever something related is discussed in any thread.

For example: if someone says “I think MJ is alive, but I don’t think he will ever come back” (and this is stated frequently)—you can respond with the evidence in 5-4, and/or the Bam questions (B1, B2, B3) in 5-11.  And the same for any other subject that comes up, related to the TIAI information.  If someone says that they don’t believe in the end of the world (or the Mayan calendar theory); you can reply with questions E1, E2, and E3.

You can also kindly remind them that the issue is what MJ believes, and his message; others are free to have their own beliefs, but the hoax forums are about MJ and his reasons for the hoax.  And please do not get into unkind arguments with anyone; remember, it’s all for L.O.V.E.  Preparing for bamsday means understanding the message, helping others to understand it, and most of all: living the L.O.V.E. yourself!

When you reply with information from TIAI: you can copy and paste the relative parts, or you can put it in your own words, if needed.  Either way, you don’t need to say that the credit goes to TS or TIAI.  I know who I am, and I don’t need the credit—I just want the truth to prevail!

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Updates & Posts by TS / TIAI Update #5c: DO you Think 4 your Self?
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TIAI Update #5c: DO you Think 4 your Self?


5-6. The greatest Show on earth!

Many have referred to this hoax as “the greatest show on earth”.  This is because MJ had a song by this name, on the album “Ben” {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.  Also, this was a slogan used by Barnum & Bailey Circus {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.  And many already know that this “greatest show on earth” circus was arriving at Staples, during the MJ memorial on 7-7-09 {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login; You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login;
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It is quite obvious that TMZ is playing a big part in this show—not only because they were first to announce the “death”, and also first on many other MJ news—but also because they are not afraid to give attention to the hoax (unlike the rest of the bigger media channels, especially in the USA).  So Update #5c here is going to be primarily about TMZ’s role in the greatest show on earth.

Although there have been several hoax related articles on TMZ, discussed in previous updates: the latest and greatest one was the walking casket, with the “RIP” or “Still alive” poll (now at 97% alive!).  “… no one saw any evidence that the casket left the building [Staples]. It fueled a grassy knoll-type theory that Jackson’s body wasn’t really inside the casket and maybe he was still alive.  Finally, our spies have come clean.” {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}

Why did TMZ wait nine months to post this?  Do you really think that their “spies” kept this secret for nine months?  And why would the “spies” keep it secret for so long?  And if it was really such a grand secret, why did they ever “come clean”??  Doesn’t it make much more sense that TMZ is playing their part in the greatest show on earth—and now that we are in the return process, it’s time to agitate the public about the hoax?

Also, it’s extremely interesting that TMZ chose the “grassy knoll” as an example of the MJ hoax theory: because the managing editor for TMZ, Harvey Levin, firmly believes that the grassy knoll theory is a TRUE theory!  “And I really believe there was a gunman in the grassy knoll.” {TMZ Live, 1-28-2010, part 2, 0:37; You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}

Michael Jackson also believes that the grassy knoll theory is true: “JFK exposed the CIA.  TRUTH be told the grassy knoll” {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login; see You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.  So I guess this means that MJ himself believes that the hoax theory is a true (grassy knoll) theory!!!  :lol:  :lol:

Harvey also revealed something interesting, when talking about Murray at Forest Lawn: “He [Murray] was not setting out to kill Michael Jackson at all. ... He didn’t intend to kill Michael Jackson.” {TMZ Live, 2-9-2010, 2:53; You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}  Compare that statement with this article from TMZ, posted a few days earlier, and on the same subject of Murray visiting FL: “Murray showed up at Forest Lawn Memorial Park on Wednesday afternoon to visit the tomb of the man he may or may not have accidentally killed.” {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}

The last phrase there, “may not have accidentally killed”, does not mean intentionally killed; we know this because Harvey said Murray “didn’t intend to kill” MJ.  So the other meaning is that Murray “may not have ... killed” MJ at all.  As far as whether MJ killed himself, Harvey doesn’t believe that idea, either {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.  So the only option left: Murray may not have accidentally killed MJ, because maybe MJ is not dead!

Notice also the similar statement in this TMZ post, just a few days later: “... he [Murray] may or may not have been responsible for the death of Michael Jackson …” {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}

But let’s get back to the walking casket article and hoax poll: on 4-12, TMZ Live discussed the poll.  Harvey said that he loved the poll results (at the time it was 55% “Still alive”).  Even more interesting was Jason, the other lawyer sitting beside Harvey; he responded to the poll by saying “Absolutely, unquestionably alive.”  {Part 1, 1:05; You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}

However, a few days later, when the poll had reached 86% alive—Mike said quite the opposite: “No.  He’s 100% not alive.  He’s 100% not alive.” {TMZ Live 4-19-2010, Part 2, 3:30; You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}

So which do we believe: “Absolutely, unquestionably alive”, or “100% not alive”?  And the answer is—believe it or not—NEITHER!  Harvey didn’t make either of these statements; and even if he did, we can’t accept everything Harvey says unquestionably.  Remember the TMZ disclaimer {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}?

Actually, for months TMZ has been giving out mixed signals regarding MJ: sometimes that he is dead (such as their report on June 25, and many other items since then); and sometimes that maybe he is alive.  So we should not make TMZ the main reason for believing in the hoax; instead, we should go primarily by clues from MJ and the family (see 5-10).

Nevertheless, there is value in watching TMZ: we do have clear evidence of the hoax from the Jacksons, etc, and we know that TMZ has been first on many MJ news items.  So by taking what we know from other investigation, and also by filtering through TMZ mixed signals to connect the dots: we just might be able to get a pretty good view of The greatest Show on earth!

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5-7. Michael Jackson Killed Himself?

As most of you know by now, all of the TIAI updates have had significant dates incorporated into the update number and final section (1-18, 2-5, 3-9, 4-44, 5-12, 6-?, etc).  April 4 (4-4) was both Easter and the MLK assassination anniversary; and the next day (4-5) was a Murray court day.  However, there are not 44 days in the month of April, so what was the 4-44 about (in Update #4)? {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}

On March 9, Update #4a was posted, and the outline had 44 sections (4-44); and that last section was titled: “Do You Still Need Even More Evidence???????-??”  Nearly a month later, on 4-4 at 4:00 AM (444), TMZ posted a major article in the MJ case: “Dr. Murray’s Defense - Jackson Killed Himself” {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.  This was not just another of the countless MJ articles that TMZ puts out; instead, this was a huge breaking story—which reverberated across the media, and also generated a ten-page thread in this forum, as well as much discussion in other forums, etc {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.

As TMZ frequently does, the time of posting this article was changed later (in order to keep it on the top of the home page, in this case for more than a day).  However, you can easily see that the original post time was 4-4 at 4:00 AM in this thread: {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.

How many TMZ articles are posted exactly on the hour, maybe one in five or ten?  And there are eleven other hours, so it could’ve been posted exactly on the hour—and yet a different hour, not 4:00.  In either case: if it was a different hour (such as 6:00), or if it was not posted on an exact hour (such as 4:57), then we would not have the nice 4-4 at 4:00 (444).  And notice that 444 is another one of those numbers which are multiples of 111 (see 5-3, above).

Furthermore, TIAI redirected to the TMZ home page, less than an hour before this 444 article was posted {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.  TIAI had previously redirected to specific TMZ articles; but this was the very first (and only) time that TIAI redirected to the TMZ home page {see TIAI history in lilwendy’s blog, You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.

What is the likelihood that this was all just coincidence?  And if it’s easy to see that this was intentional (not coincidence): then why can’t we understand that the rest of the 111-based numerology is intentional and planned (333, 666, 777, 999, 1221, 1776, 1998)?  We can be 111% certain that this was all planned, not coincidence (see 5-9, below).  Realistically speaking, there is no question whether it was planned; the only real question is who was behind the plan: MJ himself, or others (see 5-10, below)?

Actually, it is statistically far more likely that a coincidence occurred with the Update 4-44, and the TMZ 4-4 4:00 article (& TIAI redirect to TMZ, just before that article was posted).  Therefore, if you can’t imagine that this 444 was just coincidence, then you shouldn’t even consider the possibility that all the 111-based hoax numerology is merely random chance.

By the way: even before that TMZ article on 4-4 4:00 (and far more after it), many were thinking that TIAI/TS works for TMZ—and perhaps is Harvey Levin himself.  However, I am not Harvey, nor am I any other staff or employee at TMZ.

Back to the TMZ article itself, though: “Dr. Murray’s Defense - Jackson Killed Himself”.  Is this true?  Did MJ really kill himself (accidentally) with Propofol?  Do you really beLIEve that story?  If the whole article is true, then MJ is actually dead and there is no hoax. But if you still think that MJ is alive, then why do you believe even one single word of the article?

What we can understand from the article, is that MJ planned his own (fake) “death”; and several people did understand “killed himself” in this sense {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.  But we don’t come to this conclusion primarily because of this TMZ article, or any other TMZ article for that matter; instead, we arrive at this conclusion primarily from the family—and most of all from MJ himself (Gilda, numerology timing, etc).  Then, and only then, can we begin to understand what is real and what is not real in TMZ articles; we can see the hoax clues, and connect the dots.

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5-8. Zone for MJ Info

Another TMZ article, just a few days before, was titled: “Conrad Murray - Michael Was Alive at UCLA” {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.  Here again, if you accept the whole story, then forget the hoax; because the whole story is discussing when MJ died (at home, or UCLA)—it’s not discussing if MJ died.

Or you can connect the dots, and recognize that “Michael was alive” is the main clue—and much of the rest is unnamed or unverified “sources”.  Anything that is not readily verifiable, and especially anything that is unnamed “sources”, should go straight in the garbage.

This is part of what Michael is trying to teach us.  We are not to blindly trust tabloid media—or even mainstream media.  Yet, just like TMZ, at times there is reliable and valuable information in the media.

For example, video interviews; it is very easy to fabricate false information in writing, but it is much harder to fabricate a video interview with someone.  And even if someone did create a fake video interview (using a double, or a computer-generated image, etc): the real person would probably hear about it, and deny that it was really him.

And there are other methods to help establish what information is reliable.  Twitter has a system of verifying celebrities; so a tweet from a verified account is most likely a reliable source.  The Twitter for ALLJACK5ONS was not verified (it’s a group account); but we know it is reliable, because other verified accounts in the family have confirmed it.

Another type of fairly reliable information, is when the media (accidentally) says things which actually support the conspiracy view of things.  For example, when local media initially reported bombs found in the Murrah Federal building on April 19, 1995, and then later the mainstream media said that there were no other bombs—we know that both stories are not reliable {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.

Common sense tells us that the initial and local reports are reliable; but then the big guys came in and controlled the mass media, and overrode those initial reliable reports.  This happened also with the JFK junior assassination, and many other cases such as 911, etc {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.

The corrupt media expects us to believe that professionals found additional bombs in the Murrah building, got equipment and experts to deactivate these bombs, and then later they realized that there were no bombs in the building!  Supposedly these professionals had been unable to tell the difference between a bomb and a grilled cheese sandwich—and they didn’t even catch their mistake, until they were trying to deactivate the sandwiches!!!  :lol:  Sorry, but I think that this story is the cheesy one; and the first reports from the local media are far more reliable.

And at this point, I should mention that as far as possible: TIAI Revealed, and the Updates, have used the above mentioned and similar types of reliable sources for information.  So don’t accept something just because TIAI says it; but on the other hand, don’t fail to distinguish between reliable and unreliable sources and documentation.  Rejecting reliable information isn’t much if any better (maybe worse) than accepting unreliable information.  Some people believe everything (gullible), others believe nothing (stubborn); if we want the truth, we must find a balance between those extremes.

Back to TMZ: they are media, and they are playing both the bad guy (tabloid and media lies), and also the good guy (hoax hints).  This is a very difficult dual role to be in, since you get attacked from all sides.  Non-believers don’t like TMZ, because of the hoax-related articles and clues, etc (like the walking casket, read the comments under that TMZ article); and many hoax believers don’t like TMZ, because they say things that are not true—or perhaps even disrespectful.

But the use of “Jacko”, etc, is actually a real good indication that TMZ is not merely playing around with hoax believers, to get more hits on their website.  If that were really the case (and they were not playing the part of bad media): then wouldn’t they avoid all such statements, so that none of the hoaxers would be against TMZ?  If hoaxers understood more clearly the roles of TMZ, and also how to distinguish between reliable and unreliable information in the media (how to connect the dots), then they might not be quite so hard on TMZ.

Furthermore, TMZ is very clearly supporting MJ’s message—because they are not condemning Murray as guilty before the trial based on hearsay, unnamed sources, and popular public opinion!  Once again, TMZ said: “... he [Murray] may or may not have been responsible [guilty] for the death of Michael Jackson …” {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.  If this doesn’t convince you that TMZ is not actually against MJ and his message, then what would convince you?

And even if you still think that TMZ is merely out to get more hits from hoaxers: you can’t deny the fact that they have a lot of information about MJ, and frequently they are the first to publish it {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.  Where are they getting this information?  How do they know so much in the MJ and Murray case?  Who is feeding them, if not one or more in the Jackson family—at least in some cases {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}?

Whoever it is, why don’t the Jacksons try to stop the leak of information?  Or why don’t they speak out against TMZ’s reports, especially the hoax related things on TMZ?  If MJ were really dead, then the walking casket is indeed highly disrespectful to MJ and the whole family.  So why haven’t all of the Jacksons come forward (or at least one of the family) to protest TMZ, the walking casket, and the still alive poll, etc—just like Jermaine and La Toya did with the gay garbage {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login; You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}?

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Updates & Posts by TS / TIAI Update #5b: DO you Think 4 your Self?
« on: May 13, 2010, 08:13:21 AM »
TIAI Update #5b: DO you Think 4 your Self?


5-4. Overwhelming Evidence: Not If, But When

There are still many who think that MJ will never come back (bam); this has been discussed before, but not settled.  So it’s time to address this subject in greater detail.  As I said in Update #4d (4-41), “Bam: Not If, But When”.  This is important for us to understand, because we can actually have an influence on the “when”; the better we all understand MJ’s message, the safer it will be for  him to bam—and the more successful we will be in spreading his message, when countless people come to the hoax forums asking questions.

All the complexities and clues in this hoax would not be needed, if MJ were merely planning to go into permanent hiding.  He could’ve done a much simpler death hoax, if he only wanted normalcy.  Furthermore, he was already fading from media attention before “THIS IS IT”; plus he could’ve used disguises, and/or changed his looks (hair length, hair color, plastic surgery, etc)—without even a death hoax—if his only goal was to get out of the media spotlight.

If we accept the clues that he is still alive, and faked his death: then many of those very same clues also tell us that he will be back.  If we don’t accept the “will be back” part of the clues, then there is no point accepting the “still alive” part of the clues.  Take it or leave it, all or none; but please don’t take half and leave half!

So let’s review some of the major “will be back” clues.  The Liberian Girl not only had MJ directing secretly behind the scenes, it also had MJ being seen by everyone at the end!  In the short film “Ghosts”, after MJ “died” on the floor, he revealed himself alive to the mayor and the rest {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.  The same basic thing could be said of other examples {2012 movie, etc; You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.

The clues in “THIS IS IT” also point clearly to MJ coming back into public view.  In the Light Man introduction, it says: “and piece by piece by piece by piece, MJ is revealed, until he jumps out”!   In Gilda, the actor (with MJ’s same birthday) not only faked his death; he also came back later, and showed that he was still alive!

We know that “THIS IS IT” is TII, or Thriller II—the real life Thriller; but it would be no Thriller at all, if he merely faked his death and then stayed “dead”.  This is clearly illustrated in the spider scene during Thriller; the spider does not just come up out of the graveyard, it also comes out on stage where everyone can see MJ!  Finally, the “bam” clip—which is where we get the “bamsday” term—this clip seems to be meaningless, especially placed after the credits, unless it’s a big clue about MJ abruptly coming out of hiding.

All the numerology and other clues are essentially pointless, unless MJ plans to use these things to prove that the whole thing was planned by himself—and thereby avoid the argument that the real MJ is dead, and the bam MJ is just a double.  Likewise, all the reasons for the hoax (environment, 4 years, expose the media & NWO, etc)—these things will be much more effective, if MJ comes back and helps to draws major public attention to them.

Some thought that the Elvis redirect was to show that MJ would never bam; however, the Elvis redirect was (among other reasons, hmmm) for the purpose of showing the contrast with MJ, not to show a comparison.  There is a lot of evidence that Elvis faked his death; but there is very little if any solid evidence that he was ever planning on a comeback.  By contrast, MJ left a great deal of evidence that he plans to be back.

Last but perhaps not least: TIAI says that there will be a bam!  If you aren’t sure whether TIAI has reliable information, please see Update #5d (especially 5-11).  Also, regarding previous TIAI/STUDY bam predictions, see 5-5 (next).

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5-5. For Now, “Piece by Piece” Return

As mentioned in Update #4: especially since January, more and more “pieces” are being revealed—not just clues for hoax believers, but things that should even cause non-believers to question what is going on.

In Update #4d (4-39), I said: “And keep watching for more such events; we should see them coming more and more, now that we are in the return process {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.”  This link in Update #4 was to the sub-forum: “The Hoax Mentioned in the Media”; and at that time (March 14), there were only about three or four threads there (see the start dates on the threads).  Now, there are more than twenty; and this number will continue to increase, as more and more catch on to the hoax.

Several other things have happened since Update #4, more pieces in the return process.  You probably know about La Toya referring to it as a “magic trick” {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.  TMZ also reported several things: that MJ was still alive at UCLA {see 5-6, below}; that MJ killed himself {see 5-7, below}; and the walking casket with the “RIP” or “Still alive” poll {see 5-6, below}.

These things, along with several other things already mentioned in previous updates, show that indeed MJ is being revealed “piece by piece by piece”.  This is the return phase of the hoax, and will end suddenly with the bam!

Speaking of the return, and bamsday: I want to respond to a thread titled: “TIAI READS THE FORUM? Criticizing TIAI!” {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.  That thread was posted on March 9, which was hours before Update #4—so it was a little too late to respond in Update #4 (also, that update was already very long).  However, I will respond to it now in Update #5, because unlike many other TIAI complaints which I have ignored: the questions in this post are sincere, and not just empty ridicule.

For the question about TMZ: see 5-6 to 5-8 (Update #5c).  For the question about “the coming up trial”: I did mention it in Update #2 {2-4, last two paragraphs; You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.  For the question about the resurrection scene in TII: before the movie came out, I agree that many hoaxers were expecting a resurrection scene; my point was that I said it would not be a funeral scene, but rather a graveyard scene (I said this when a lot of people were expecting a funeral scene, maybe Forest Lawn).  For questions about my other predictions: see 5-11 & 5-12.

Most of all, though, I want to answer the following question in that thread; since it is the most important question, I will quote it: “TS first told us that Michael was going to come back after the public watched the film and learnt about the hoax. I’m asking all of you. What kind of proof was there in TII for all of the public to understand that Michael is alive? Only us, the believers investigated about Gilda and the meaning of spider and understood about it. Most of Michael’s fans didn’t even understand that those scenes were about resurrection. How could Michael pretend all public to understand the message of those scenes? [P] TS told us the first comeback day was the Halloween but it was postponed to January 25th. And it never happened. On TS’ last update, he wrote that the LAST delay is not going to take that long this time. It’s been 1,5 mounths already. And nothing happened.”

Let me begin by quoting from Update #3: “We [already] know that this delay is much shorter than the first delay (three months): BECAUSE things are NOW moving forward ...” {3-7, You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.  Notice that the “delay” referred to was already completed at the time (February 7); therefore, I was not talking about a short time from then until the bam—instead, I was talking about a short delay in January that was already history by February 7.  Since the delay was already past, then things would move forward from that point.

And indeed, the very next day (February 8) things did move forward with Murray in court for the very first time (after months of delays).  If there had not been a long delay (months), Murray would’ve been in court last fall (unless MJ chose to bam first).  So the long and short delays that I talked about were not necessarily referring to bam at the end of the delays; they could’ve ended with a bam, or else moving forward with the court case (and the “piece by piece” return process, which is not the same as the bam).

Notice also that I never referred to a bam date until Update #4; and even when I used “return” in the same sense as the bam (the end of the return), I never said anything about the return ending (the bam) at any time between January (in Update #1) and July (in Update #4).  Many thought that Easter was a probable bam date, because of the resurrection theme (and also MLK assassination); but I have always said that the resurrection was 9-9-09, so 4-4-10 would not be the resurrection date.

As far as my statements about the TII movie, and the public knowing MJ was alive: I have discussed this a little previously, but I will go into it more now.  When I first talked about the movie, it was still in the editing process; so things could’ve been included or left out.  And I’m telling you now that there were some things about the hoax which were left out of the cinema version; but we will yet see them (maybe hidden in DVD Easter eggs, and/or future releases, etc).  Remember that we still have not seen the funeral footage, which most think was recorded for a movie (and not just a personal documentary).

Even with the things left out of the cinema version, MJ could’ve decided to bam on Halloween—just a few days after the movie came out.  He did not choose to bam then, and a major reason (not necessarily the only reason) was that many of us did not understand his message yet.

I will admit that I did strongly indicate something big around Halloween; and in fact, it wasn’t just Halloween—I did the same basic thing three different times: 9-9-09, Halloween, and January.  And these three cases parallel with the three “R’s” which I used when referring to the TII movie being rated “R”: Resurrection (9-9-09), MJ hoax Revealed (around Halloween), and Return (January).

If anyone remembers clear back to 9-9-09, expectations ran high on that day.  I personally did not expect the bam on that day, although it could’ve been; in fact, any day can be the bam day.  And although I did write the thread which helped to get the expectations high on 9-9-09, I carefully worded things to leave room for no bam on that day; and I pointed out that wording, after the day came and went.  And if you carefully read Update #1 & #2 (as well as TIAI Revealed, Part 6), you will see that I also left room for no bam in January.

In all three of these cases (9-9-09, Halloween, and January): there was a realistic possibility of a bam—and especially the last two.  Nevertheless, even though there was no bam, there were significant events which fit very well with the three “R” ratings.  The 9-9-09 “Resurrection”: movie poster, movie 7 weeks later, and autopsy finalized (you need a dead body for an autopsy, so no resurrection until finalized).  The TII death hoax “Revealed” through Gilda, no RIP, bam after the credits, etc.  The piece by piece by piece “Return” process, which has really kicked in major since January—and could easily be counted as starting on 1-18-2010, when the Jacksons mentioned the hoax for the very first time {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.

Especially after the third time that I did this (and also several other bam date predictions from others), many people were getting tired of the bam dates; and some were hurt from the disappointments.  Since I did not want that to happen again: after January, I greatly reduced my emphasis on potential bam dates.

However, although I do not want anyone to get their hopes up very high, there is a realistic possibility of the bam coming in June or July.  Again, any day could be the bam day; and as many have stated, maybe MJ will bam on a day least expected.  Yet I do not expect a bam before June at the soonest.

There are three or four interesting dates in June, including the 26th—which is a full moon, the anniversary of Elvis’s last concert (Indianapolis), and only one day after the MJ “death” anniversary.  July 4 is also a distinct possibility, which has already been mentioned by me and others.  But again, please don’t get your hopes up very much; just wait and see, and if there’s no bam don’t lose faith—remember that Jermaine said: “It’s all going to come out” {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.  Until then, keep the faith no matter what happens!!!

TIAI Update #5c is next.  {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}

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Updates & Posts by TS / TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
« on: May 12, 2010, 07:12:19 AM »
Update #5 covers four main subjects: the title, “THIS IS IT”; bamsday—not if, but when; the role of TMZ; and numerology objections answered.  You don’t need to read all of the previous updates to follow this update; but this one will make a lot more sense, if you have at least read Update #4 {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.  And here is the link for the whole series, just in case you have two or three minutes to spend on some light reading {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.

NOTE : There are some important things in 5-2, the section on the redirections, which are not repeated anywhere else in this update; so don’t skip over that section, even if you are already familiar with all the redirects.

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5-1. Outline for TIAI Update #5

Just like Update #4, this one is long enough that it’s broken into four parts.

#5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
5-1. Outline for TIAI Update #5
5-2. TIAI Redirections Since Update #4
5-3. Seven Layers Embedded in: “THIS IS IT”

#5b:
5-4. Overwhelming Evidence: Not If, But When
5-5. For Now, “Piece by Piece” Return

#5c:
5-6. The greatest Show on earth!
5-7. Michael Jackson Killed Himself?
5-8. Zone for MJ Info

#5d:
5-09. Statistics and Opportunities of a Coincidence
5-10. Hoax, Accident, Murder, or Suicide?
5-11. Operation “Think 4 your Self”
5-12. Will You Be There?

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5-2. TIAI Redirections Since Update #4

NOTE: There are some important things here in 5-2, which are not repeated anywhere else in this update; so don’t skip over this section, even if you are already familiar with all the redirects.

This third set of redirects (all between Update #4 & #5) will be labelled based on the date of the redirection; and then the numbers {in braces} indicate what section(s) in this update is on the same subject as that redirection.  In a few cases, a note will be included right after the redirect link.

3-25 {5d} MJalive999; video of Update #4. {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login; see also You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}

3-31 {5-9 & 5-10} PureLove; numerology proves no murder, no coma, etc. {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}

4-1 (April Fool’s Day) {5-1} SeeingClues; Connect The Dots, Fool.
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4-2 {5c} TMZ Live 3-22; huge secret about MJ.
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4-3 Happy Birthday to Paris & GCM.
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4-4 (Easter) {5-7} TMZ; Dr. Murray’s Defense - Jackson Killed Himself. {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login; see also You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}

4-5 (Court) {5c} TMZ; MJ section, more TMZ articles on Murray case, etc. {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}

4-6 {5-7} KacyLovesMJ; TMZ redirect shortly before 4-4 article.
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4-7 {5c} Sarahli; TMZ & TS roles. {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}

4-8 {5-10} jacilovesmichael; all planned by MJ, even if suicide.
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4-9 {5-8} darkchild; TMZ dual roles. {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}

4-10 {5-6 & 5-8} 1 Thessalonians 5:19-22 (The Message); don’t be gullible, etc.
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4-11 {5-6} Souza; Harvey the beLIEver and his grassy knoll theory.
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4-12 {5-6} Fox; JFK poll. {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}

4-13 {5-6} TMZ Live 4-12; MJ “Absolutely, unquestionably alive.”
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4-14 {5c} patman; TMZ and MJ connections. {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}

4-15 (IRS tax day) julia142; MJ donations to needy children.
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NOTE: the love for children was correct, and donations of course; but the legality of the hoax was not the reason for this redirect—that was already addressed in Update #4 (4-36).

4-16 {5-8} mjssoulmate; TMZ said MJ death was going down a “rabbit hole” (ARG).
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4-17 {5c} TMZ warranties; disclaimers for everything, no liability.
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4-18 {5c} Souza; don’t be mad if TMZ posts stuff not true (MJ dies, etc).
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4-19 {5-8} katzmeowstudio; 15th anniversary of Murrah bombs (17th Waco).
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4-20 {5-6} JukeBox; TMZ Mike says MJ “100% not alive.”
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4-21 {5-6} Gina Jackson; previous 4 redirects are about media lies, etc.
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4-22 (Earth Day) Lyrics007; Earth Song lyrics, no music so you’ll read the words.
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4-23 {5b} Hebrews 10:23; keep the faith, without wavering.
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4-24 {5b} Hebrews 11:1, NLT; faith that what we hope for will happen.
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4-25 {5-11} THE JACKSONOLOGIST; MJ “read the Bible daily” (bodyguard).
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4-26 {5-8} ladyandbird; someone feeds TMZ, they are a big key in this.
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4-27 {5-6} TMZ Live 2-9; Harvey says Murray did not intend to kill MJ.
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4-28 {5} MJalive999; TIAIrevealed comment, Update #5 coming in May.
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4-29 {5-3} thehdcrowd; Michael Jackson’s THIS IS IT (notice the font).
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4-30 {5-3} timeinc; same THIS IS IT, with dancers.
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5-1 {5-5 & 5-11} Wikipedia; 234 year anniversary of Illuminati (also 7-4-1776).
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5-2 {5-5 & 5-11} MJFAN7; 777 + 999 = 1776 (see Update #4, 4-21).
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5-3 {5-12} Sarahli; it’s an alternate reality game (ARG), we can influence the hoax.
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5-4 {5-12} Happy Birthday to Katherine & Jackie (also one month since 4-4 tweet).
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5-5 {5-12} “Jackson Fans are an army of L.O.V.E. The media should take notice.”
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5-6 {5-10} mjfansince4; Kenny & MJ go way back, MJ learned to trust him.
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5-7 {5-10} StargazerMJ11 (Part 2); Reasons Not To Believe In Murder.
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5-8 {5-7} MJJSmile; TMZ 4/4/ at 4am, last TS update 4-44!
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5-9 {5-7} Adi; TS does not work for TMZ, etc.
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5-10 {5-4 & 5-9} Elvis?????
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5-11 {5} JukeBox; Update #5 coming in May, I can’t wait!!
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5-12 {5} TS posts; watching for Update #5. {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}

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5-3. Seven Layers Embedded in: “THIS IS IT”

Okay, so now it’s time to reveal another big “piece” in the “piece by piece” return process (see 5-5, below).  The title “THIS IS IT” has several layers of hoax information embedded in it; most are already aware of layers one and two, but the other layers will now be revealed for the first time.

Before going into the specific layers, notice that the title is the same forwards and backwards—except for the letter “H”.  Layers one and two are based upon the first letter of each word: “THIS IS IT”.  Layers three and four are based upon the other letters in the first word: “THIS IS IT”.  Layers five and six are based upon the only vowels in the title: “THIS IS IT”.  And layer seven is the other letters, which are not underlined in the previous layers: “THIS IS IT”.

Layer one: TII = THIS IS IT (which has more than one meaning: it means the “end”, or “death”; it also means “this is what MJ has been planning”, etc).

Layer two: TII = Thriller II (“II” for Roman numeral “2”); the real-life Thriller!

Layer three: starting with the “H” (which is unique, because it’s the only letter not repeated), you have a three-letter word “HIS”.  These same three letters were emphasized in the “HIStory: Past, Present, and Future” album in 1995 {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.  Layers three through six here all show that “THIS IS IT” has been in the planning since the early 1990’s (or before).

Layer four: Since “THIS IS IT” is nearly the same forwards and backwards: we look at these same three letters backwards (SIH), and find something very interesting.  If we use a very common system of putting a numerical value to each number (A = 1, B = 2, C = 3, etc), we come up with: S = 19; I = 9, and H = 8; 1998!  This is the same number that is on the “Dangerous” album cover in 1991 {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login; You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}—and also the same number that MJ signed in various autographs {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.  This fact should leave no doubt that 1998 is indeed a coded number which MJ intended for the TII death hoax.

Layer five: Using the same system of numerical values in layer four, we see that the only vowels in “THIS IS IT” are the letter “I” (= 9) three times—999!  This is yet another strong evidence of 9-9-09 and the hoax; and it is also another very strong connection between 1998 (layer four) and 999 (layer five).

Layer six: Notice that the font used for “THIS IS IT” is rather simple {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}, so that the “I” could be either the 9th letter of the alphabet (capital “I”, not lower case “i”)—or it also looks like a simple sans-serif number “1” {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.  Hence, the three vowels are also three numbers: 111.  One hundred and eleven is the length of the TII movie; and it is also the basis for all of the MJ hoax numerology: 333, 666, 777, 999, 1221, 1776, 1998 {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.  The fact that all of these numbers can be divided evenly by 111 proves, with tsunami force, that it could not possibly be just the result of random chance—it positively had to be planned!  This also verifies that the Dangerous autograph formula is indeed three sixes, not “600” or “660”.

Layer seven: Other than the letter “H”, there are seven letters that read the same forwards and backwards: T I S I S I T.  Three of these letters are vowels (layers five and six); and the other four letters are two very interesting consonants, mirrored forwards and backwards.

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TIAI Update #4d: 777 + 999 = Greatest Proof of Hoax, Not Murder


4-32. Would a “Death Hoax” Murder Plot Convince the Family???

If there was a conspiracy to murder MJ (and don’t get me wrong, that is a very real possibility): what would be the point in all the complexity, trying to make it look like MJ faked his death?  Would they do all that, just to convince a few thousand hoax believers?  {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}

More and more MJ fans are now thinking maybe MJ was murdered (including former hoax believers); so I guess it didn’t work very well, if they were trying to convince all the fans that it was a death hoax.

But far more even than the fans, the murderers would need to shield themselves from detection by the family; because the family would be motivated to catch the murderers, as much or more than most fans.  And in this case, several family members are already well known in the music industry (Jackson Five, Janet Jackson, etc).  So as much or more than any other family, the murderers would want to avoid detection by the Jackson family—because they have the influence to do something about it.

Now get ready for the murder-theory destroying question: if they planned a murder to look like a hoax, what is the likelihood that they could You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login in convincing the You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login that MJ faked his death???????

The only way that a murder (made to look like a hoax) could work, is if the family was in on the murder plot—whether for money, or their own lives were threatened, or because they all hated him and wanted him dead, or something.  I’m not trying to say that any of these things are true; but we are turning every stone, so to speak.

It is quite unlikely that even one family member would want MJ dead, much less the entire family.  It is also unlikely that any family member could be bought with money to help in a murder plot; and again, certainly not the entire family.  The threat of death is no doubt a stronger motivation than money; but true love is stronger than death—so if there’s even one family member that truly loves MJ, then the whole family could not be in on a murder plot.

Yet another problem is that we have Jermaine and others saying that they know all about it, and they are going to spill the beans.  So I guess the huge, long-term, and very complicated plot to murder MJ and make it look like a hoax—it didn’t work!  And they had to be planning it for many years: including the will dated 7-7-02, and the 1998 autographs (somehow they convinced or forced MJ to do this).  All that ingenuity, and it failed!

Yet another problem is the many indications not only of the hoax, but also of the return and bam.  Wouldn’t it be better to make it look like a hoax with no return, so that the hoax believers would not be expecting to see MJ again (then they could believe the hoax for decades, and not wonder what happened to MJ)?  In fact, wouldn’t it be a whole lot easier to murder MJ with an entirely different plan—having nothing to do with a death hoax?  They could make it look like an accident (car or airplane), or maybe a suicide; perhaps a “crazy” person could just shoot him (Lennon), etc.

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4-33. Does the NWO Promote the End of the World?

Clearly, the 911 call at 12:21 fits very well with the planned timing.  So if it was really planned murder, and not a planned hoax: then the NWO conspiracy team decided to promote the end of the world concept, as part of the plan.  Now it is quite understandable that MJ himself, who believes the Bible and knows it very well, it is easy to accept that he would want to warn about the end of the world.

But why would NWO murderers do that?  They don’t believe in the end of the world soon, or ever for that matter; they don’t care about warning people to get ready, and they have no reason to promote such a message.  If they thought that the current world would soon be destroyed, then they would not spend all the money and energy trying to set up their own world order!

Another point is that it’s very unlikely for NWO murderers to understand the Bible well enough to know about inclusive reckoning, and come up with the plan for 77 days and 7 days to 9-9-09 (inclusive).  And MJ has not used inclusive reckoning publicly in the past; so they couldn’t merely watch how he operates, and then mimic him to make it look like he was behind the timing.

Last but not least: God would not cooperate in a NWO plot to murder MJ, and make it look like a hoax.  But on 3-6-09 (immediately after the O2 press conference) God did step in and reverse the NWO plot to destroy the economy; with a low of 666, the fastest six-month rally in history started on 3-9-09 (and six months later was 9-9-09).

Although God would not be involved in a murder plot, it is quite likely that God would help in a plan to warn about the end of the world, to expose the NWO conspiracy, and to turn the NWO upside down (666 pyramid to 999).  “The LORD ... relieveth the fatherless and widow: but the way of the wicked he turneth upside down.” (Psalm 146:9; see Isaiah 24:1; Acts 17:6).

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4-34. Is TIAI Part of a Murder Conspiracy?

This question has been asked {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}; and there is nothing wrong with asking the question.  We are all here to find out the truth about MJ; and if the truth is a huge murder plot, we all want to know it.

Even if MJ was murdered, that would not necessarily mean TIAI is part of a plot to cover it up.  However, we have just seen loads of evidence that the murder (made to look like a hoax) theory is totally unrealistic.  If nothing else, the family alone should prove that this theory doesn’t hold a drop of water.  And if MJ was not murdered, then TIAI could not be part of a conspiracy to cover-up murder.

Furthermore, TIAI has worked hard to expose the NWO conspiracies and murders, etc {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.  So how’s that for a mind-warping theory: TIAI is part of a plan to hide the murderers—by exposing the murderers!

Nevertheless, if anyone still thinks that the murder theory is a realistic possibility, then please investigate it.  I’m not trying to silence investigation about murder, or anything else.  The truth has nothing to lose by close examination: the “truth will prevail”!

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4-35. TIAI Appeal to TINI Followers

For those who now recognize that the murder theory doesn’t hold any water: perhaps it’s time to stop looking for clues in every car that drives by, and every cloud in the sky.  Yes, we should still be watching for any major developments; especially things that would help to convince non-believers.  But the little clues are not needed anymore; they won’t help non-believers, and we don’t need them because we have plenty of evidence already.

So let’s start spending more time trying to reach ourselves and others with MJ’s message.  I know that many have already tried to convince others, with little success; but the evidence is continually getting stronger (piece by piece, MJ is revealed).

Although there are many different ways to do this: one way is by going to (non-hoax) forums, and asking them to read this {Update #4, You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.  If they are willing to read this, and still remain unconvinced, then probably nothing in the universe will convince them—at least not before bamsday.  In fact, some won’t be convinced even after bamsday!  Yes, they will say that it is a double; and the family knows it’s not the real MJ, but they are silenced by threats from those who murdered MJ.

To all those supporting the campaign at You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login (TINI): hoax believers and You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login (TIAI) have read your website, and understand your position.  Have you read our material?  Are you aware of the very strong evidence which goes against your position?  Do you realize that you might be working against MJ and his message, even though no doubt your motives are to defend MJ?  Please be informed, and don’t oppose our position without carefully examining it—that is what true investigation is all about.

As far as the reports about MJ’s failing health: we believe that this was an act, and all part of the plan to make it look like he died.  MJ’s own brother said: “Michael was very, very healthy. He had passed a physicals for the show. ... He was very, very healthy ...” {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.  And MJ’s own physical trainer, Incredible Hulk star Lou Ferrigno, said three times in a row: “He was in great shape” {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.  We believe that these sources are as reliable as you can get.

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4-36. Hoax Objections Answered

Those who believe in the intentional murder theory, as well as those who believe the official story, have often given one or more of the following reasons against the hoax: there would be way too many people “in on it” (so surely someone would’ve let the cat out of the bag by now); or, many of the things that have happened would be illegal, if it was a hoax; or, the government would not be in on a plan to expose corruption in the government, etc.

First and most important: the intentional murder theory (designed to look like a fake death) would require as much or more people to be “in on it”, than the hoax theory (it even requires the family to be involved).  And if it’s possible to get people involved in murder, for whatever reason (money, or power, or whatever): don’t you think it would be even easier to get people involved in a hoax?

Besides, the entire state of California is not in on the hoax.  MJ has been planning this hoax for many years; and he had the time and influence to get a few key people in the right positions to pull it off—and yes, even government agencies still have some good people in them.  Look at history: many times people in high positions have stood up against the corruption in their own system (government, or church, etc).

But MJ did not involve large quantities of people.  In fact, the “three-way theory” is basically correct {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}; this theory states that the fewer people “in on it”, the better (although more than three are actually involved, and the “three-way theory” does allow for more than three).

Also, as far as possible, legal loopholes were used.  Nevertheless, with a hoax of this magnitude and importance: whether the line was ever crossed, between being inside or outside of legal loopholes, is a question that probably doesn’t even need to be answered.

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4-37. Hints on the “How’s” of the Hoax

In this update, I have gone into great detail about the timing of the hoax (as well as a few other aspects).  Previously, I have gone into great detail about the reasons for the hoax {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.  That leaves only one frontier remaining: how did MJ succeed in pulling off this massive hoax?

I’m not going to go into great detail on that now, it would be very long—and this update is already the longest update by far.  But I will give some hints, to help you go in the right direction if you want to investigate it further.

For starters, maybe it is time to create a sub-forum for Coherent Theories.  By this, I mean theories that start putting all the pieces together, fitting into one bigger picture.  But we can’t have MJ hopping on a plane at LAX, escaping out of a tunnel in the basement of UCLA, and riding alive in the helicopter to the coroner’s office, as well as in the other helicopter—all at the same time.  This would not qualify as a coherent theory.

I think we already have a huge clue from Jermaine, telling us that MJ went to the “airport”—NOT the hospital.  And in fact, it would’ve been very risky and unnecessary for him to ride alive in the ambulance to UCLA, and then go into UCLA where he could be easily recognized (and hard to play dead), and then try to escape somehow.  What would be the point?

Based on the planned timing of the hoax, we should now be able to see very plainly that the living MJ body double theory doesn’t work.  There is no chance that a living double just happened to die on the right year, the right day, and the right hour.

This leaves us with three possibilities.  There was no body at all, which would require quite a few people to be “in on it”.  There was a dummy, not a real human; this reduces the number of people “in on it”, and also makes it easy to duplicate the looks of MJ (but paramedics would need to be “in on it”, because they would not be fooled by a dummy).  Or there was a real human corpse, which had recently died.  In fact, at different times and places, there could’ve been more than one corpse and/or dummy used as needed.

Considering the corpse possibility: do you remember anything about the room being heated extra warm—in the summer of all times {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}?  Maybe the room was heated to make the corpse feel warm, like it had just died.  And do you remember the paramedics saying that MJ had been dead for more than an hour before they arrived—and also that they did not realize it was MJ, and thought it looked like an old man?  {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login; You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login; You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}

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4-38. Only a Few Would Need to Be “In On It”

Let me also clue you in on a few tricks, so that only a relatively few people would need to be “in on it”.  The endlessly discussed helicopter ride to the coroner: it could’ve had a living and/or a dead body in it, but not MJ; and yet none of the people in the copter, or working that situation, would’ve had any clue that MJ was alive.

All you would need to do is create a diversion for the media and public: the helicopter and all would be a big show for the media, while they transport the (supposedly) “real” MJ’s body in an unmarked vehicle—this would keep MJ’s body safer.  And all the people “involved” in that diversion operation would play right along, and obey without question like good little boys and girls, thinking all the while that MJ’s dead body was being transported in some unmarked vehicle (and not even questioning whether or not MJ was actually dead).  And even if they suspected later that MJ is alive, how would they know?  They would not know, they would just suspect it (like hoax believers).

The fact that it’s a criminal case is another good alibi for secrecy and cover-up; this way, nobody thinks twice when they’re told not to talk about what they did or did not see at UCLA on June 25 (or other times and places).

Some have said that Forest Lawn (FL) would need to be in on the hoax; and maybe they are, but maybe not.  If there was an actual dead body used during at least some of the process: then a dead body could’ve been at FL, even though it was not MJ.  And sooner or later, the family could say: “We’ve decided to bury MJ somewhere else; but for privacy and security reasons, we want the public to think that he is buried here.”

They might even have FL sign confidentiality agreements, promising not to let anyone know that MJ was not buried at FL.  Of course FL would still get paid, because the family did purchase space there {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}; and since FL got their money, they would not care where MJ was actually buried, and that would be the end of it—FL might never imagine that MJ is still alive.

Do I need to give any more hints?  I think I’ve said enough already.  Besides, you want some surprises left for after Bamsday, don’t you?

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4-39. Piece by Piece Return, Versus Bamsday

If you search through TIAI Revealed, Parts 1-9; and also TIAI Updates, #1 - #3, you will find that I repeatedly used the word “return”, but only used the word “bam” about six times—and when I did use “bam”, I was merely referring generally to the statement at the end of TII (but not discussing the meaning of “bam”, when or what it is about, etc).  Also, I never once use the term “bamsday” (not until this update).

Since this update is about timing, the time has come for me to discuss the “bam”; and also the differences between the “return” and the “bam”.  The “return” is a process, which can be short or long, depending on several factors; regardless of whether or not the return is short, the “bam” is very abrupt—and marks the end of the return process.  The fact that “bam” is abrupt should be obvious—based on the word itself, based on MJ’s usage of the word in context, and based on the audio and visual imagery that is very abrupt on Jack5ons “coming soon” website {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.

The return, on the other hand, is not necessarily abrupt.  There are a few things in TII which indicate that the return might not be abrupt.  During Light Man, it says: “... and piece by piece by piece by piece [return process], MJ is revealed, until he jumps out [bam!], and on Michael’s command, we begin.” {TII DVD, Main Movie, text from subtitle; at 3:43}

In Staging the Return (as well as in the main movie), you can see a little of MJ before he comes out of the spider.  “Then Michael was gonna come out and be revealed underneath the black widow.” {TII DVD, Staging the Return, The Adventure Begins, text from subtitle; at 19:50}.

And the bam statement itself is very clear: “Let me bathe in my own time when I come back in. I’m gonna button my shirt or jacket or whatever it is. I’m gonna look around a little bit, play with them.  Snap my fingers maybe, then bam!” {TII DVD, Main Movie, text from subtitle; at 1:49:45}

Do you feel like MJ has been “playing with them” recently?  If so, it means we are in the return process.  You see, the return is when things go beyond just clues for hoax believers; it is when the public sees things that just don’t add up with the official story.  Since MJ is in control: he could have several pieces revealed all in one day; or he could slow the process down, and do it over a longer period of time (until people start getting it)—in either case, the return would end with the bam (the final and ultimate revelation that MJ is alive).

Has a gradual return processes started?  We may not all agree exactly when, but I think we can agree that many such things have happened in the last month or two: no RIP at the Grammy’s; Jermaine’s “airport” slip-up; Brian Oxman saying 99.9% the ambulance photo is fake; tabloid magazine publishing that MJ is alive, because the autopsy report doesn’t add up; and TMZ publishing MJHD.net website right there on their front page!

Yes, these and other things in the last month or two are more than just clues for hoax believers; they are all things which could easily cause the public to start questioning the MJ death.  And keep watching for more such events; we should see them coming more and more, now that we are in the return process {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.

But if you go back before January, things like these were rare if ever, because we were not in the return phase yet until January.  In fact, the JACK5ONS tweet on January 18: “ur eyes don't lie - media does”—this was obviously referring to the circumstances around MJ’s death; so that should’ve caused some of the public (non-hoax believers) to question the official media story.  And in fact, this was the first time any of the Jacksons had referred to the hoax publicly {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login; see also You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.  What better time to mark the beginning of the return, than the Jacksons first public reference to the hoax?

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4-40. High Probability of MJ “Return” in January 2010

And when did I say that the return would probably happen?  In the month January, and specifically maybe even January 18 {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.  Did you think that I meant the end of the return would be in January, the bamsday?  I never mentioned bamsday in that update (or at any time before Update #4); yet my usage of “return” has often referred to the end of the return (the bam).  And certainly if MJ wanted, he could’ve both started and completed the return in January.

You see, in January MJ had to decide whether to end the hoax at that time (bamsday), or continue into the court case with Murray.  The fact that the court process has started, should actually show us that things are going reasonably well; if not, MJ would’ve pulled the plug on it by now.  And at any time, he could say: “okay everybody, that’s a wrap!”  But if not, we should be prepared to wait out the court process (see 4-42, below).

By the way: I never said that the NWO/illuminati subject (TIAI message) was the only reason why MJ did not return back at Halloween.  It should be noted, however, that nothing significant happened between the TII release around Halloween, and the January return process beginning—nothing except of course the TIAI redirects, and TIAI Revealed.  Once that happened, then the return process began in January.

Oh, and one more thing: TMZ has been using the word “return” in their articles recently.  On February 7, they had an article titled: “Plotting Return to Golf” {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login; see also You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.  On March 3, they had an article “The Return of Jaafar Jackson” {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.  And on March 5, the anniversary of the London press conference, they had this: “Returning to the StageConan O'Brien is coming back ...” {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.

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4-41. Bam: Not If, But When

Some were troubled by the redirect to a YouTube video, titled “Michael Jackson death hoax: What is his message?” {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login; and see this thread
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}  Please remember first of all, that the redirects point to information already out there on the internet; the information is not created by TIAI, so there may be a few minor things included that are not the reason for the redirect.

This redirect was intended to emphasize the need for us all to have more LOVE in our lives—not just a word, not just a four-letter acronym (L.O.V.E.), but the real thing.  This redirect was done in the context of Valentine’s Day (though about a week later); and the purpose again was to emphasize LOVE, not to minimize the importance of the return and bamsday.  Nothing in that video said bamsday would never come, or that bamsday is pointless and unnecessary.

The video indicated that maybe our lack of LOVE could delay MJ; and if so, emphasizing the LOVE message would not delay the bam or make it less important—rather, it would help speed it up, which we all want because the bam is important!

And speaking of bamsday, notice that bam statement once again: “I’m gonna look around a little bit, play with them.  Snap my fingers maybe, then bam!”  Especially in a musical context like this, “snap my fingers” can only be referring to timing!  Can you think of anything that has happened recently, about the hoax timing???  Then the next thing in that statement, after snapping his fingers, is the bam!

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4-42. Guilty Until Acquitted, Still Guilty After Acquitted

So much for “innocent until proven guilty”; Conrad Murray is being charged as an intentional murderer, not by the court but by the public!  Yes, the Jackson family is talking more and more about murder; but this is part of the plan.  And even if the court charged him with murder, the public should not consider him guilty yet; he would only be a murder suspect—until he has had a fair trial, and also been convicted.

But if he goes to trail, and is acquitted, what are the chances that the media and public are going to accept it?  Much like MJ himself, no doubt Murray will still be condemned in the eyes of the public.  In fact, MJ may save the bam until this happens—just to show the public that they did not treat Murray as innocent until proven guilty.  Remember in V for Vendetta: V was fighting for the freedom of the citizens in general; but he was also fighting for his own personal Vendetta.

Also keep in mind the simple fact that if the hoax has continued this far, it’s has to be much more than just a joke.  MJ is a prankster, yes; but it has gone way beyond that.  There must be some very serious reasons for this hoax (which is what TIAI has said all along).

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4-43. For Those Losing Faith: the Trial Is Not Over Yet

In TIAI Update #2, I wrote the following: “If the doctor goes to trial, and is found not guilty: again, watch the family.  If they make an uproar (which they are certainly capable of doing, with all the publicity that they get)—and show truths about a murder plot, then MJ is really dead.  But if they act nearly the same as at the memorial and funeral, then MJ is alive.”

In spite of the fact that the court case is not over yet: still some people have been losing faith over the autopsy report, or the court case itself, or DR at FL, etc.  But it’s not time to lose faith yet, whatever happens.

In the interview with the “airport” slip-up, Jermaine said: “... it’s all gonna come out. It’s all gonna unfold.” {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.  So this is what we need to be waiting for; and giving up before that time is premature.  “And immediately Jesus stretched forth his hand, and caught him, and said unto him, O thou of little faith, wherefore didst thou doubt?” (Matthew 14:31).

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4-44. Do You Still Need Even More Evidence???????-??

For those who need even more evidence—either that MJ is alive, and/or that TIAI has valid information—probably no amount of evidence would ever convince you; at least not before bamsday, and maybe not even after bamsday (you will say it’s not really MJ, it is a double).

I’m not ready yet to say how/where I got my information; that may not happen until after bamsday.  But I did give some significant indicators in this update, for those who picked up on it.

And for the video-makers in YouTube land: it would be good to put together videos about the timing of the hoax—not necessarily as detailed as this update, but enough detail to show clearly that the timing was planned (and maybe a link to this update, for those who want more detail).

Last but certainly not least: a huge thank-you to Souza and Mo for your hard work in providing this forum, and also your own research.  Don’t worry about the fact that people criticize you for not being MJ fans.  You are doing for MJ what millions of MJ fans are not doing.  There are millions of MJ fans in the world—yes, maybe even billions.  But he himself said: “I’ve met a lot of people in my life.  And very few are real, real, real friends—could probably count them on one hand.” {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}  Before this is all over, hopefully Michael will need more than one hand to count his real, real, real friends.

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TIAI Update #4c: 777 + 999 = Greatest Proof of Hoax, Not Murder


4-22. 777 + 333 + 111 = 1221; 777 + 1221 = 1998

We’ve already seen the 777 (red shirt), and the 333 (Dangerous autograph, and FBI files); but where does the 111 come from?  In binary (the number system that computers operate on), the number 7 is three bits on: 111 {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.  Also, the duration of TII is 111 minutes—both the cinema version {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}, and the main movie in the TII DVD (1 hour & 51 minutes = 111 minutes).

So if we add the 777, 333, and 111, the answer is 1221—the same as the 911 phone call, and also the 2012 movie (12-21-12).  And just in case anyone is tempted to think that it’s just a coincidence: add 777 to 1221, and we’re right back to 1998!

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4-23. The 911 Call Was at 12:21

Whether you think MJ really died, or it’s all a hoax, everyone recognizes that the whole thing kicked off with a 911 phone call placed at 12:21 PM on 6-25-09.  However, all the other timing was planned: death 77 days until 9-9-09; memorial on 7-7 (full moon), and 7 years from will; burial 7 days from 9-9-09 (and essentially full moon), etc.  So is it possible that the timing of the 911 call was also planned?  Yes, there are several ways to show that 12:21 was planned.

First, the call was received at exactly 12:21, and 4 seconds; you can see this in the centre of the computer screen {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login; You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.  You can be sure that emergency facilities have their time very accurate, down to the second.  Also, most cell phones today have very accurate time set automatically; so it was easy for the 911 caller to know the exact time.

With most phones, you can preset a speed dial (such as 911) with one button; so it would only take a second or two to place the call.  Then the 911 operator would answer immediately, as soon as the call comes through.  So if the caller was waiting for the right time to make the call, 12:21—and then pushed the speed dial button—about 4 seconds into the minute is what we would expect, for when the 911 operator would receive the call.

This does not mean that the exact second was planned; it would be difficult to get the call through on a specific second.  However, the exact minute was planned; and as soon as the planned minute arrived, the call was placed.

This explains why the 911 call was not made earlier.  If it had been a real emergency, obviously there would’ve been no hesitation or waiting until 12:21 to make the call; but since this was all planned, down to the minute, nobody was put in danger by waiting until 12:21 to place the 911 call.

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4-24. Was the “Death” Time (2:26) Also Planned?

Quite obviously, the exact minute of the 911 call was planned.  Could it be, then, that the exact minute of the “death” (2:26 PM) was also planned?  Once you realize that MJ has been planning this for decades (see 4-27): you should not be too surprised to find that yes, the exact minute of the death was part of the plan (by the way, the redirect about 12:21 and 2:26 was done on 2-26).

We must be careful, however, not to unnaturally force-fit a desired result.  For example, we could take 2:26, and divide the last digit (6) by the first digit (2): 6 / 2 = 3; then we could add that answer (3) to the first two digits (2 & 2): 3 + 2 + 2 = 7!

But this type of mathematical gymnastics is merely starting with a desired result (7), and then using whatever methods are necessary—however abnormal—to arrive at the desired destination.  In striking contrast: the next paragraph has three very simple and very normal equations, all ending in 7 (777).

First, 12:21 to 2:26 is 2 hours and 5 minutes (on June 25); and 2 + 5 = 7.  Second, 1,221 + 226 = 1447; then 1 + 4 + 4 + 7 = 16; and 1 + 6 = 7.  Third, add each digit separately, 1 + 2 + 2 + 1 + 2 + 2 + 6 = 16; and 1 + 6 = 7.  Here again we have 777 (red shirt); and this would not work, unless both times (12:21 & 2:26) were planned to the very minute.

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4-25. The End of the World Is Good News!

So this whole hoax was kicked off with a 911 call, which represents the NWO (911 terrorism); and it was made at 12:21, which represents the end of the world (12-21-2012).  These are two of the main reasons for the hoax.  And yes, these are the two main subjects covered in TIAI Revealed {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.

But many are having difficulty accepting these two reasons, especially the end of the world.  However, whether or not you believe the end is near, you can’t change the fact that it is part of the hoax and MJ’s message—which can be seen very clearly from the call at 12:21, as well as “Jackson” and the other parallels in the 2012 movie {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.

If we understood that the end of the world is a good thing, it might be easier to accept.  “And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away [end of the world] … And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain …” (Revelation 21:1,4).

Jehovah’s Witnesses believe in the new earth; MJ is a former Witness, and still holds some of the same beliefs {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.  Notice what Rebbie said about the new earth: “I know this is something you [MJ] not only cherished but talked about with others.  Then the world will be a paradise, a place free from corruption and poverty.” {page 2, You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}

The end of the world is only bad news, for those who are not ready.  If you don’t want the end of the world to come, maybe you need to take a look at the man in the mirror.  God has promised to His faithful: “A thousand shall fall at thy side, and ten thousand at thy right hand; but it shall not come nigh thee.” (Psalm 91:7).

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4-26. Can a False Alarm Eliminate a Real Danger?

True, there have been many false “end of the world” alarms in the past; but if this alone proves that it’s not the end of the world, then the world will never end.  The Bible repeatedly warns about the end of the world; the only question is when.  Don’t you think that the devil has caused people to “cry wolf” in the past, so that when the real thing comes people will ignore it (just like the wolf story)?

TIAI Revealed on 12-21-09, especially Part 9, went into a lot of detail about the numerous signs that the end of the world is near—including earthquakes {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.  Since that time, there have been two major earthquakes in just two months: in Haiti, and in Chile {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login; You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.  Do you suppose that this is just another coincidence, or is it a warning?

Daniel 12:4 says, “But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.”  Never before in history, has there been access to so much knowledge.  Only five years ago, YouTube was started {http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YouTube}; now it is a huge source of information for countless people around the world—including hoax believers!

Some are dismissing the end of the world, because many scientists think that nothing will happen at the end of the Mayan calendar.  It is true that nothing may happen on the exact day, 12-21-2012 (or even that year); but God can cause the world to end with or without any Mayan calendar (see Revelation 16:17-21; 18:1-24).  The History Channel takes the end of the world seriously; maybe we should too {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login; see also TIAI Update #1, You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.

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4-27. Did MJ Ever Think of a Thriller Sequel?

The original Thriller made all-time records in both the album, and the music video {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login; also You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login, and You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.  So do you suppose that during three decades, the thought of a Thriller sequel ever crossed Michael’s mind even once?  Don’t you think there is a 1000% chance that MJ thought of a sequel at least one time, and probably hundreds of times?

And if he thought of it, what do you suppose he was thinking?  Maybe: how to outdo the biggest music video ever.  But that’s not easy; especially not with a sequel.  Very rarely do sequels exceed the original.  So MJ just gave up on the idea, right?  Does that sound like Michael Genius Jackson?  Is there perhaps at least a 1% chance that MJ came up with a plan to outdo Thriller??

There is one thing, and only one thing, that could possibly outdo the original Thriller video; you guessed it, a real-life Thriller!  Do you honestly think that this thought never once crossed his mind?  In fact, the original Thriller went back and forth between reality and illusion several times; and yet, it was actually all just a video—not reality.  But is it possible that he ever once thought about bringing it off of the screen, and into our real-life circumstances?

And if he did think of a real-life Thriller: do you suppose that he had the time (about three decades), motivation (especially after the two court cases), money, influence, and intelligence to pull it off?

And if he did plan to do a real-world “death” and “resurrection”: don’t you think that he would plan to do it at a specific time?  And what would that time be, if not one that fits so well with 777 & 99-09, etc?  He certainly didn’t do any big death hoax before 6-25-09; and if he was planning to do it after 6-25-09, why?  Why pass up the perfect timing, and plan it for another time later??

Could it be that 6-25-09 is the date that he planned?  And if so, is there a slight chance that he succeeded in his plan??  Or did he just happen to die on the very same day that he was planning a fake death???  And again: just perhaps, did he plan a Thriller sequel that would outdo the original?  If so: then perhaps, just maybe; maybe, maybe—“This Is It”!!!

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4-28. MJ Certainly Had Something Big Planned

Is there any evidence that he has been planning this for years, maybe even decades?  Yes, there are several things.  One of which we already examined, and that is the autographs (1998, Dangerous code, etc).  These all indicated at least something major on 9-9-09.  The Liberian Girl video, from about twenty years ago, leaves us with a pretty strong feeling that he was already working on this plan back then.

Another thing is the MJ will, dated 7-7-02, exactly 7 years before the memorial {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login; You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.  Just a few weeks before, MJ had spoken out and said: “... they never thought, that this performer, myself, would outthink them. ... I promise you, the best is yet to come.” {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login; and see this similar video, from just one day before the 7-7-02 will: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}

What was he referring to?  What was his plan (outthinking), and when did he implement it?  What was the “best” to come after 2002?  And what was the big and “innovating” film “surprises” that he mentioned to Geraldo in 2005 {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}?  There seems to be no answer to these questions, unless of course the answer is Thriller II (TII).  In fact, since MJ did do film clips for TII (Gilda fake death, spider resurrection, etc): then whatever he was planning, we can be quite sure “This Is It”.

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4-29. Hoax Timing, the Bigger Picture

It is quite obvious that the real-life Thriller sequel is exactly what MJ had planned; and he planned the timing—not only a specific day, but even right down to the minute.  So now let’s look at the larger picture of the timing—especially since we know that MJ has been planning this for many years.

MJ moved to Bahrain in 2005, and then to Las Vegas in 2007; finally he moved to Holmby Hills in late 2008 (and remained there until he “died”).  For several reasons, he wanted to be in the LA area for the death hoax; so that’s why he placed himself there, just at the right time to get things rolling.

Notice the following chronology statements from the TII DVD: “... after a decade’s absence from the stage ...” {introduction}.  “About two years ago [2007], we were building a new arena in London [O2].  ... So I pitched Michael two years ago, and I was summarily turned down.  I was told, ‘He’s really not ready at this time.’ ... Then, early September of ’08, I got a call from the gentlemen who I work for, and he said Michael was actually ready to come back to work ... this was gonna be his come back to the live stage after 13 years ...” {Randy Phillips; TII DVD, Staging the Return, The Adventure Begins, at 2:35 & 7:35; see also You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login, 2:01}.

According to MTV, the Dome Project (film clips for TII) was completed on 6-9-09; this would be about two weeks before the “death” {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.  Amazing that the film portions were conveniently completed, just before he “died”!

June 24, 2009 ... that last rehearsal day ... the goal had been reached ... We were gonna then pack up everything, put it on a boat, send it to the U.K., to London ... and start dress rehearsals over there.  That’s how close we were.” {Travis Payne & Randy Phillips; TII DVD, Staging the Return, Beyond the Show, at 7:00}.

Randy Phillips (the CEO for AEG Live) reported that MJ said the following, after that last rehearsal night: “... thanks for getting me this far, I can take it from here.”  {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}  That was a rather strange thing for MJ to say—strange, that is, unless he was expecting to fake his death on the following day.

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4-30. Coincidence: Odds of 7 Versus 777

So we have seen that all the times, in relation to the “death” of MJ, were very well planned: the year, the day, and the hour, and even the minute!  What is the likelihood that this could’ve all happened by coincidence (plus the many, many other things which aren’t even mentioned here)?  True, it’s possible for the timing to be planned, and yet not a hoax plan but rather a murder plan (designed to look like a hoax).  In that case, it would not be a coincidence.  We’ll look at the murder theory in Update 4d; but for now, we are just examining whether this could all be random coincidences.

For those who are trying to find a specific number, such as “7”: there’s about one chance in ten that any single digit will be 7 by chance, not by plan; so if you are looking through hundreds of numbers, no doubt you will run across many 7’s that are just coincidence.  On top of that, if you start doing math with the numbers, you have an even greater likelihood of finding a 7 by chance; like 3 + 4 = 7, or 1 + 6 = 7, or 5 + 2 = 7, etc.  So a lot of 7’s could exist quite by chance.

However, it is much less likely that 777 would exist by chance; instead of one chance in ten, this would be one chance in a thousand.  Nevertheless, it is quite easy to look around until you find a 7, and then continue looking until you find two more 7’s (three 7’s total), and then stop looking.

For example, you might find a picture with 7 trees in it—then look around and see a driveway that is 7 feet wide; after that you look for something to happen at 7:00, and indeed something happens then (because something always happens).  Then you say wow, I found 777!  But these three 7’s are essentially unrelated.  If the picture had three distinctly separate clusters of trees (not more than three clusters, and not less than three): and each cluster of trees had 7 individual trees, then that would qualify as finding a 777.

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4-31. Any Chance That This Was Just Chance?

In the hoax timing, there is not one but three different SETS of 777; and each set of three 7’s are things very closely related, and have three 7’s, no more and no less.  The time of day on the 911 call (12:21) and the death (2:26) had three 7’s; the day of the memorial had three sevens (7 years from will, 7th month of the year, 7th day of the month, all in descending order: year, month, day); and finally 9-9-09 was 77 days from the death, and 7 days from the burial.  And all three of these 777’s are in the same general category: time.

What are the odds that these three sets of three 7’s all happened by chance?  If a single set is about one chance in a thousand: then three sets would be about one chance in a thousand, times a thousand, times a thousand—or one chance in a billion!  Yes, it’s a little less, because some simple math was used on the 12:21 and 2:26.

However, it’s actually far more than one in a billion, once we calculate the odds that the 911 call was made immediately at 12:21—not 30 or 45 seconds later.  And then there’s the 1998 autograph, pointing clearly to 999 (9-9-09); also the movie poster on 9-9-09, and several other things (autopsy finalized, etc).  And 777 + 999 = 1776; the list could go on and on and on, but we’ll stop here to save space and time.

What are the odds that all of these things happened by coincidence, and were not planned?  Quite frankly, at least practically speaking: it is IMPOSSIBLE!!!!!!!  We can be 100% certain that these things were planned.  The only question is whether they were planned by MJ, for a death hoax—or were these things all part of a huge and complex murder conspiracy, designed to look like a death hoax?

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TIAI Update #4b: 777 + 999 = Greatest Proof of Hoax, Not Murder





4-7. The Red Shirt & “777”

A close-up picture of this shirt, with the “777” on it, was the redirect for February 22 (2-22); this was done that day, because 777 + 222 = 999.  The following comment (from user ILikeTrains) is very good, and the reason for redirecting to that specific reply: “Anyway, the most amazing thing, I think, about this shirt, is not the fact the 777 is there, it’s the fact it wasn’t there for all of rehearsal. He purposely had someone glue rhinestones on his shirt for it to say 777. He could of had ANYTHING on there. There’s a definite reason for the 777 to be on that shirt ... One of the biggest clues in my book.” {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}

In the TII DVD: you can clearly see the red shirt with “777” on it in chapter #13; but in chapter #20, you can clearly see that there is no “777” on the same shirt.  So our attention is drawn to the “777” as much or more than the shirt itself.

And this red shirt is so important, that it was in the first photo from TII; it was also in the first video clip released from the TII rehearsals (TDRCAU).  And this red shirt can be seen about ten times in the TII movie poster.

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4-8. Numbers 4 Evil & Numbers 4 Good

Just like words, numbers can be used for good or evil.  The number 7 is a special number in the Bible, and it often represents completion or perfection (good).  Nevertheless, there are times when this number refers to evil—such as the evil beast with “seven heads and ten horns” (Revelation 17:3; etc). 

On the other hand, the number 6—and especially 666—is often associated with evil (see Revelation 13:18).  Yet even the number 666 is used in the Bible as merely a quantity of children, and not an evil mystical number (see Ezra 2:13).

Therefore, in order to determine whether a number is used for evil or good, we must consider the context and purpose of its usage; basically the same thing that we do to determine whether words are used for evil or good.

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4-9. Why Does 7 Represent Perfection?

God has infinite wisdom, and has reasons for everything He does.  Therefore, why does the number 7 represent perfection: was it just a random number, drawn out of a hat—or is there a reason for it?

Man-made things are often based on squares, rectangles, and/or other 90 degree changes in direction (boxes, books, doors, walls, buildings, etc).  Things that God made in nature are usually based on circles and curves, but not 90 degree angles (eyes, flowers, fruits, planets, orbits, etc).  In fact, when geologists or archaeologists find something that is square or rectangle, they are almost certain that it’s man-made.

A circle is a perfect and complete curve.  But what does the number 7 have to do with a circle?  Take 7 circles of the same size (like seven identical coins): put one in the centre, and the rest around the centre.  You will find that all 7 circles are contacting each other; if you remove 1, or add 1, it will not work.  Also, the perimeter of the seven circles is the same shape (circle) as the 7 smaller shapes; so the pattern could be repeated endlessly.



Thus 7 represents God’s complete and perfect system: He is in the centre, and is in direct contact with all 6 around the centre.  This system can also be seen in the creation story, as well as the Ten Commandments: there are 6 days for man, and 1 day for God—the 7th (see Genesis 1 & 2; Exodus 20:8-11).  In this 7 system, God is the leader.

However, Satan comes along and decides to remove God, then all you have left is 6; and he takes over as the new leader.  But he re-arranges the 6 into a pyramid, with him on top and layers below; no longer is everyone in direct contact with the leader.  This is also an accurate representation of the people (bottom) being afraid of the government (top).  Like the circles, the perimeter is the same shape (triangle) as the 6 smaller shapes.



If you turn the pyramid system upside down, you have a system where the government (bottom) is afraid of the people (top): V for Vendetta.  And the 666 has been turned into a 999!



This system is not as good as the first system (7 circles); but it is much better than the 666 system.  Nevertheless, the 7 circles system can’t possibly exist as long as there are people who don’t want God (all the circles around the centre have to be in contact with the centre, or else it’s neither perfect nor complete); so we can’t expect that to happen until God sets up His own eternal kingdom (see 4-25).  The struggle right now is between the 666 system, the New World Order (NWO)—and the 999 system, where the people control the government (army of LOVE).

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4-10. Rounding: Down, Nearest Whole, and Up

As we will see in detail next (4-11), it was 77 days from the “death” on June 25 to 9-9-09; and it was 7 days from the “burial” to 9-9-09.  Although I posted this half of a year ago, almost nobody understood it.  So the subject got dropped, even though it is probably the single strongest proof of hoax, not murder; and also it very clearly shows one of the main reasons for the hoax: to turn the 666 NWO upside down, 999!

Since almost nobody understood it, I am redoing it now with a lot more detail.  One of the things that was not clear for many, is the Biblical counting system known as “inclusive reckoning”; you must use this system to arrive at 77 days and 7 days to 9-9-09.  For example, most people would count September 3 (burial) to September 9 (9-9-09) as 6 days; but with inclusive reckoning, you basically start counting with 1, not 0 (you include the first day in the count).

When I posted this last fall, someone asked: then does 6 equal 7?  No; but 6.1 equals 7.  You see, inclusive reckoning is merely a system of rounding up to the next whole number (so anything from 1.1 to 1.9 would be rounded up to 2).  Today, we usually round to the nearest whole number (1.1 to 1.4 rounded to 1; and 1.5 to 1.9 rounded to 2).  And if not the nearest whole, we generally round down (1.1 to 1.9 rounded to 1).

Rounding up was a common system in Bible days, and MJ is very familiar with the Bible.  In fact, this system is most well known in reference to the death, burial, and resurrection of Christ!

1 Corinthians 15:3,4, “Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;  And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:” (see also Matthew 20:19; Mark 9:31; 10:34; Luke 18:33; 24:7,6; etc).

Jesus died and was buried on Friday (day #1), rested on the Sabbath (day #2), and rose on Sunday (day #3).  There are many other Biblical examples of inclusive reckoning (read carefully Luke 13:32; Acts 10:3,9,23,24,30); but I will not take up anymore space here.

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4-11. 77 & 7 Days From the “Death”, & “Burial” to the “Resurrection”

To follow this, you need to understand that the “resurrection” of MJ refers to 9-9-09 (the reasons and evidence for this will be explained later); the resurrection is not the same as when the general public all know that he is alive (bam).

Everyone knows that the “death” was on 6-25-09, and the “burial” was on 9-3-09.  Using inclusive reckoning (shown below): it is 77 days from 6-25-09 to 9-9-09, and 7 days from 9-3-09 to 9-9-09.

September 3 = day 1
September 4 = day 2
September 5 = day 3
September 6 = day 4
September 7 = day 5
September 8 = day 6
September 9 = day 7

It would take up too much space here to show the 77 for June 25 to September 9; but you can take any calendar, and count the days starting with “1” on June 25.  You don’t even need a 2009 calendar for it to work; you’ll still end up at September 9, it just won’t be 9-9-09.  But MJ chose 2009 as the year, because that year would be three 9’s (as well as other reasons).

Full moon came on 7-7 in 2009, the day of the memorial; it was the first time since 1952 that there was a full moon on July 7, and it won’t happen again for decades {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.  This is another reason for the fake death being in 2009.  Furthermore, full moon came also on September 4 in 2009—just one day after the burial!  And if you looked at the moon with the naked eye on September 3 (night of the burial): it looked full.  Do you remember seeing the full moon in Thriller—both the original version {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login, at 2:10}, and also in the TII version {TII DVD, at 59:19, 59:37, etc}?

Speaking of the burial: why was it delayed for sooooooo loooooooooooooong?????  Even the memorial on July 7, less than two weeks after the death, seemed like a little long; but why did it take more than TWO MONTHS for the burial?  And remember, after waiting forever for the burial, it was finally planned for MJ’s birthday: Saturday, August 29 {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.  But then the burial was “pushed to [Monday] August 31, because there are things the family needs to get in order before Michael is laid to rest.” {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}  What?  After more than two months, the family still needed more time??

Then it had to be pushed back again: “... August 31 -- became problematic because of schools re-opening on that day.” {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}  So they had the burial on Tuesday, September 1?  Or Wednesday, September 2?  No!  I guess school re-opened for three days in a row that year!  And if they did not want to do it on a school day at all: then why not Friday evening or Saturday—the previous plan for burial on MJ’s birthday would have been on a Saturday, remember (August 29)?

And if MJ was really dead, but for whatever reason the family wanted his burial to be on a full moon: then why didn’t they have it on Friday, September 4?  There is one very clear reason for all of these things: it’s 7 days (inclusive) from 9-3-09 to 9-9-09!

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4-12. Number 9 Represents Regeneration (Resurrection)

Of all the single-digit numbers from 1 to 9, the last one (9) is the only one which is always regenerated.  Take 9 and multiply it by another single digit; then take the numbers in the answer, add them together, and you will have 9 again.  For example: 9 x 9 = 81 (the digit “9” is gone, it “died”); but then add 8 + 1, and the answer is 9 (the “9” was “resurrected”)!  And the same is true for 9 x 8, 7 x 9, 9 x 5, 3 x 9, etc {http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nine}. 

But this does not work consistently with any of the other single-digit numbers.  For example, 5 x 4 = 20; but 2 + 0 is not 5 or 4.  Or 8 x 6 = 48; but 4 + 8 = 12 (and 1 + 2 = 3), the answer is neither 8 nor 6.  Or 7 x 7 = 49; but 4 + 9 = 13 (and 1 + 3 = 4), not 7.  Yes, 3 x 4 = 12; and 1 + 2 = 3.  But it doesn’t work with 3 x 5 (15, 1 + 5 = 6); etc.  Therefore, more than any other number, the number 9 represents regeneration (or resurrection).

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4-13. MJ “1998” Autographs

Several of MJ’s autographs included the number 1998, three circles, and an arrow {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login; You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login; You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.  There is also one autograph, on the Dangerous cover, that is similar—yet it has some kind of formula, or code.  Before going into any detail about the meaning of that Dangerous code, let’s look at the other autographs: 1998, three circles, and an arrow.

1998 is an interesting number, that can be divided evenly by only these single-digit numbers: 1998 / 2 = 999; 1998 / 3 = 666; 1998 / 6 = 333; and 1998 / 9 = 222.  If you add 222 (that last one) to 777 (red shirt), you have 999.  The first one is 999 itself; and the other two added together equal 999 (666 + 333).  Also, if you add the first digit (1) to the last three (998), you have 999 (1 + 998 = 999).  And if you add all four digits, it reduces to 9 (1 + 9 + 9 + 8 = 27; 2 + 7 = 9).  Even if we had nothing else to go by, just the 1998 alone should point us pretty clearly to 9-9-09; but there is far more.

For a code to be of real value, it has to be neither too simple nor too complex.  If it is too simple, it would not be hidden (not a code); and if too complex, it will never be understood and therefore useless.  MJ could have signed 999; but that would’ve been too simple.  Or he could’ve used highly complex trigonometry equations; but very few of his fans would ever understand it, not even if it was explained to them.  Therefore, he used a code between those two extremes.

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4-14. The Autograph Code on “Dangerous”



There are several unique things about this Dangerous autograph, different than the other 1998 autographs: #1 the arrow points down, not diagonal or up; #2 there is different symbol which points up (^); #3 there is a division symbol; #4 there is a number 4; #5 the three repeating digits are vertical, not horizontal; #6 at least two of the three repeating digits look more like 6’s than circles.

On the other autographs: the arrow is diagonally upward, and can obviously represent resurrection (on 9-9-09); in this case, the arrow is down and would represent the death.  But you also have the resurrection here, with the upward pointing caret (^).  However, these symbols are part of the equation, as well: start with the 1998, go down (subtract) by 666 = 1332; then insert this answer (caret means insert) into the last part: 1332 / 4 = 333.

Of what significance is 333?  It is the exact number needed to turn the NWO 666 pyramid upside-down; 666 + 333 = 999!!!  In fact, that is why the three digits on the dangerous code are vertical, not horizontal; they represent the vertical layering system of the pyramid (666), and then turned upside down (999).

Some have thought that one or more of the vertical digits in the Dangerous autograph are zeros, not sixes; however, the top two digits are much closer to a six than a zero—and even the bottom digit has a small hook if you look carefully.  MJ is not careless, and he was not writing sloppy zeros; in fact, notice that if anything, his zeros have a gap on the top—not an overlap and hook.  So it’s three sixes, just written so that it would not be very obvious—both because it is a code, and also because 666 might scare some people if they didn’t realize the purpose for it in this context.

Remember also that I explained the meaning of the 1998 and Dangerous autograph before 9-9-09 {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.  So I was not merely looking at a past event, and trying to force the code to fit into something that is history (such as some have done).  Oh and by the way: this Dangerous autograph redirect was done on 3-3, 2010 (2 + 0 + 1 + 0 = 3); and again, 1998 – 666 = 1332; 1332 / 4 = 333!

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4-15. MJ “Resurrection” Before “Return”

At this point, to understand what did and did not happen on 9-9-09, we need to recognize the difference between the MJ “resurrection” (on 9-9-09), and the MJ “return”—which is now in progress, and will be completed suddenly with the “bam!” (discussed much more below, see 4-39).

In TII, the remake of Thriller has a Black Widow spider pop up in the graveyard; and then afterward it comes out on stage.  While on stage, MJ comes out of the spider; so we know that MJ is also represented as being inside the spider, even while it’s still in the graveyard—the graveyard “resurrection” (9-9-09).  But you can’t see MJ yet, not until the later phase when the spider comes on stage; only after that, can people actually see him.

By the way: watch TII, and you will see that the death hoax film clip (Gilda remake), comes before the resurrection film clip (Thriller remake).  Either this is yet another one of the almost infinite MJ “coincidences”; or else this sequence was planned, because you can’t have a resurrection until after the death!

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4-16. Autopsy Report “9-9-09, Date Finalized”

From TIAI Revealed, clear back in December 2009, I wrote: “... keep watching, we will yet see more developments regarding 9-9-09 and the hoax.” {Part 6; explanation of R26, posted on 12-22-09; You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}

And then on February 7, just one day before the autopsy report was released to the public, I wrote: “... keep watching for the 9-9-09 update.  It will show very strong evidence of the hoax, and against the murder theory—as well as further evidence that TIAI (STUDY) has genuine hoax information (and is not a fake informer).” {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}

When the report was released, everyone could see that the very last thing on the whole report said: “9-9-09, Date Finalized”.  Was this a coincidence?  There are several dates in the report: most of them in June or July, and a few in August; the latest date (other than the “Date Finalized”) is 8-19-09.

It is theoretically possible that this 9-9-09 date is a coincidence, but not likely for two main reasons.  I mentioned the date one day before the report was released.  And far more significant, is the resurrection aspect.  Imagine if there was a real death, and a real resurrection; you would need a dead body to do an autopsy, so you wouldn’t be doing autopsy work on someone after they were resurrected!  So the MJ “resurrection” could only happen once the autopsy was finalized: 9-9-09!

It’s amazing how many were shaken or lost faith over this report—in spite of the fact that the coroner has been part of hoax theories from the beginning: moving body in the helicopter taken to the coroner; coroner van video; Craig Harvey, etc.

Aside from the 9-9-09 resurrection aspect of the coroner’s report, there are numerous other fishy things—too many for me to discuss here.  But for those interested: here are links to the report, as well as forum discussion and YouTube videos, all on the autopsy subject
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4-17. “This Is It” Movie Poster on 9-9-09

There were three main steps in the process of revealing this movie to the public: the movie poster, the movie trailer, and the full movie.  Let’s look at the timing of all three steps.

Although the poster may have surfaced unofficially a little early: it was not posted on the official MJ website, until Wednesday 9-9-09! {http://www.michaeljackson.com/us/news/michael-jacksons-it-movie-poster}.  And remember, this is the poster with about 10 different red shirt pictures—reminding us of the 777 (77 from death to 9-9-09, and 7 from burial to 9-9-09).

For the sake of publicity, the movie trailer was released at the MTV VMA.  The timing here is controlled by MTV, and the VMA has only once been held on a Wednesday September 9 {in 1992, You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}; so it’s not surprising that the trailer was not released on 9-9-09, or any significant date related to 9-9-09.  The tickets did go on sale, though, on 9-27-09 {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}; the 27th of course reduces to 9 (2 + 7 = 9).

The movie itself was originally scheduled to open on Friday, October 30; but they moved it to Wednesday, October 28.  {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}  Although movies do open sometimes on a Wednesday, Friday is the more common day {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.

Notice that 9-9-09 was a Wednesday, and the official opening date was on Wednesday (10-28-09)—exactly 7 weeks after 9-9-09!!  Also, the movie was originally scheduled to run for only 2 weeks—which would bring it up to 9 weeks from 9-9-09!!!  And from the original Thriller: “… see you next Wednesday!”  {Thriller video at 3:31, You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}  “The line [‘see you next Wednesday’] is also mentioned in the opening scene for Michael Jackson’s ‘Thriller’ when the police decode a message from Jackson’s werewolf character.”  {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login; also You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login; and You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}

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4-18. Jermaine and La Toya Supported 9-9-09

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In the original set of redirects, R44 was a picture of “99” (on 12-16 & 12-17)—which was 99 days from 9-9-09 (inclusive on the 16th, and standard on the 17th).  Two days later, TMZ posted this video of La Toya Jackson Christmas shopping (although posted on the 18th, she did the actual shopping during the “99” redirect).  At 0:47, the camera points to a “9.99” price tag for about 5 seconds {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}

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4-19. Stock Market Bottom on 3-6: 666!

Several people wondered what the stock market redirects had to do with MJ and the hoax.  Some recognized that it had to do with the NWO generating the recession, in order to get the money out of the hands of the general public; and this is true, but that is not the only reason for these redirects.

Those who read TIAI Revealed, Part 9 {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}, may have understood at least some of the other reasons for the economy redirects.  Very well known, from the book of Revelation, is 666 and the mark of the beast (see Revelation 13 & 14).  The mark is related to finances: “And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark …” (13:17).  Here is another verse, which connects 666 with money: “Now the weight of gold that came to Solomon in one year was six hundred threescore and six talents of gold” (1 Kings 10:14; see 2 Chronicles 9:13).

The USA has the largest economy in the world, and the S&P 500 (not Dow) is “the most reliable measure of the broader market” {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}?  The S&P 500 hit a low of 666 on 3-6 (three 6’s) {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.  This was the bottom point in the worst recession since the great depression; and in fact many people were calling it the verge of financial “Armageddon” (another end-of-the-world term from Revelation).

Was it a coincidence, that the bottom was 666 on 3-6?  No, I’m going to show you that it was the hand of God.  The devil and the NWO powers were trying to destroy the economy; and God allowed it—that is, until reaching 666, to show that it was the powers of evil doing it (and also to warn about that the mark of the beast).  Then God said enough is enough, and stepped in to turn things around.

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4-20 The Idiot-Maker Rally Started on 3-9

It is possible for the devil to work miracles (see Revelation 13:14; 16:14); but in this case it was not Satan who turned the economy around, because he wanted it to get much worse.  Also, only God has the power to do genuine healing; if it was the devil that started healing the economy a year ago, it would not be genuine healing—and therefore it wouldn’t last very long, and the economy would end up worse than before the fake healing.

But the improving stock market and general economy has lasted for a whole year now; and it made a lot of economic professionals look like idiots—the “idiot-maker rally” {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.

This is because it looked like a “bear market rally”, or a “dead cat bounce”; and soon the market would fall again, even worse than the March 6 lows.  But it never happened.  A few economists are still saying that the big collapse is imminent, worse than a year ago; but even though there will be ups and downs, a major collapse won’t happen (not until the real Armageddon)—because it was God who turned the economy around, and when God does something nothing can stop Him!

On October 12, 2009, Aaron Task from the Yahoo Tech Ticker said: “… the speed of the rally is unprecedented.  Fifty plus percent in six months has never happened before in US history.” {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.

“… Blessed be the name of God for ever and ever … he changeth the times and the seasons: he removeth kings, and setteth up kings:” (Daniel 2:20,21).  God is fully capable of controlling world events.  And in this case, the 666 low came on 3-6, which was only one day after the March 5 press conference in London.  March 6 was a Friday, so the 7th and 8th were the weekend; but after the low on Friday, Monday March 9 was the start of the fastest six-month rally in US history.  And just in case you still think it could’ve been a coincidence: this “resurrection” in the economy, on 3-9-09, was exactly 6 months before the 9-9-09 MJ “resurrection”!

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4-21. 777 + 999 = 1776; Greatest Demonstration for Freedom

Now that we have seen both 777 and 999 used repeatedly in relation to TII, the death, the burial, and the resurrection—let’s examine what happens if we add these numbers: 777 + 999 = 1776!  For everyone in the USA, and many around the world, this number is instantly recognized as the year of the US Declaration of Independence: July 4, 1776 {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.  Could this have anything to do with the hoax?

Remember the MLK statement in TDRCAU: “In what will go down in history as the greatest demonstration for freedom [independence] in the history of our nation [USA].” {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}  Does this mean that the hoax is mainly for people in the USA, and not around the world?  No; MJ merely used things that already existed about the USA (MLK, and July 4) to represent the whole world.  He also used London (O2), and V for Vendetta parallels (in London)—but the hoax is not mainly for England.

Speaking of V for Vendetta parallels, that was one of the recent redirects.  Both V and MJ spoke in London, with a red curtain background, wearing black, and for the purpose of freedom from corrupt elites in the government, etc.

And did you notice the fireworks in V for Vendetta?  Well, you can also see fireworks in the TII DVD—both on stage, just before Light Man, and also projected in the video shown during Light Man {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login; You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.  Furthermore, you can see very obvious red, white, and blue on Light Man immediately before the fireworks.  Anyone from the USA will instantly know that these colors are unquestionably linked to the fourth of July, known as Independence Day {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.

The fifth of November is basically “Independence Day” in V for Vendetta; and exactly 4 months later, on March 5, MJ had his London press conference.  Between the death on June 25, and the memorial on July 7, there is one and only one date that stands out on the American calendar: July 4!  This day was also about 4 months after March 5, and about 4 months before November 5.  MJ probably would’ve done the London press conference on November 5, except that would’ve been too early—and probably a little too obvious.

We do know that the very last words at the O2 press conference were: “... see you in July!” {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}  Does this mean that Bamsday is July 4, 2010?  Not necessarily; remember, we should not get our hopes up for any specific date.  Nevertheless, he was not referring to July 2009—since that was long before 9-9-09, and certainly Bamsday would not be two months before the “resurrection”!


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For those losing hope or getting tired, Update #4 here should give you a huge jolt!  Today is exactly half of a year since 9-9-09.  This update will go into great detail about the 7 steps in the timing of the hoax: 911 call (12:21), death (2:26), memorial (7-7), burial (9-3), resurrection (9-9-09), return (“piece by piece”, now in progress), and finally the bam!  Previously, TIAI has focused on the why’s of the hoax, and a little on the timing {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}; now, TIAI is focusing on the when’s of the hoax, and a little on the how’s.

Whether or not you have read any of the previous TIAI posts, I highly recommend that you read this one—it will surely kill the murder theory (as well as any MJ literal death theory).  In fact, if there is ever any TIAI post that you need to read: This Is It!!!

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4-1. Outline for TIAI Update #4

Note: because this update is very long, it is broken into four parts.

TIAI Update #4a: 777 + 999 = Greatest Proof of Hoax, Not Murder
4-1. Outline for TIAI Update #4
4-2. Introduction for Update #4
4-3. TIAI Redirections Since Update #3
4-4. Brief Review: 4 Major Reasons MJ Is Alive
4-5. A Couple of Recent Major Events
4-6. Is TMZ Just Playing Games?

TIAI Update #4b: 777 + 999 = Greatest Proof of Hoax, Not Murder
4-7. The Red Shirt & “777”
4-8. Numbers 4 Evil & Numbers 4 Good
4-9. Why Does 7 Represent Perfection?
4-10. Rounding: Down, Nearest Whole, and Up
4-11. 77 & 7 Days From the “Death”, & “Burial” to the “Resurrection”
4-12. Number 9 Represents Regeneration (Resurrection)
4-13. MJ “1998” Autographs
4-14. The Autograph on “Dangerous”
4-15. MJ “Resurrection” Before “Return”
4-16. Autopsy Report “9-9-09, Date Finalized”
4-17. “This Is It” Movie Poster on 9-9-09
4-18. Jermaine and La Toya Supported 9-9-09
4-19. Stock Market Bottom on 3-6: 666!
4-20 The Idiot-Maker Rally Started on 3-9
4-21. 777 + 999 = 1776; Greatest Demonstration for Freedom

TIAI Update #4c: 777 + 999 = Greatest Proof of Hoax, Not Murder
4-22. 777 + 333 + 111 = 1221; 777 + 1221 = 1998
4-23. The 911 Call Was at 12:21
4-24. Was the “Death” Time (2:26) Also Planned?
4-25. The End of the World Is Good News!
4-26. Can a False Alarm Eliminate a Real Danger?
4-27. Did MJ Ever Think of a Thriller Sequel?
4-28. MJ Certainly Had Something Big Planned
4-29. Hoax Timing, the Bigger Picture
4-30. Coincidence: Odds of 7 Versus 777
4-31. Any Chance That This Was Just Chance?

TIAI Update #4d: 777 + 999 = Greatest Proof of Hoax, Not Murder
4-32. Would a “Death Hoax” Murder Plot Convince the Family???
4-33. Does the NWO Promote the End of the World?
4-34. Is TIAI Part of a Murder Conspiracy?
4-35. TIAI Appeal to TINI Followers
4-36. Hoax Objections Answered
4-37. Hints on the “How’s” of the Hoax
4-38. Only a Few Would Need to Be “In On It”
4-39. Piece by Piece Return, Versus Bamsday
4-40. High Probability of MJ “Return” in January 2010
4-41. Bam: Not If, But When
4-42. Guilty Until Acquitted, Still Guilty After Acquitted
4-43. For Those Losing Faith: the Trial Is Not Over Yet
4-44. Do You Still Need Even More Evidence???????-??

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4-2. Introduction for Update #4

This update is about 777, 9-9-09, and the highly planned timing of the hoax.  This is the same subject, with much more detail, that I posted on the original MJHD with the username STUDY (posted on 9-7-09).  That was my very first post; and many wondered where I came from all of a sudden, where I got the information from, and whether I was MJ himself—or at least someone very close to MJ.

Now, half of a year later, I am going to give far more information about the timing of the hoax—including the timing of the autopsy report, finalized on 9-9-09; this report came out one day after my Update #3  {http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=0&t=5024&p=78302}, which stated clearly that my next update (#4) would be about 9-9-09.

For the sake of new hoax believers, or non-hoax believers (murder theory advocates, etc): I designed this update so that you can follow most everything, without reading any of the previous TIAI posts.  Therefore, a few things are repeated here that were already covered in my previous posts.

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4-3. TIAI Redirections Since Update #3

The first set of TIAI redirects were labelled R1 through R49 {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.  However, this second set of redirects (all between Update #3 & #4) will be labelled based on the date of the redirection; and then the numbers {in braces} indicate what section in this update is on the same subject as that redirection.  Also, remember that none of the information was created by me; TIAI only pointed to information that is already out there in cyberspace.

2-8 {4-1} Elsa; figured out 9-9-09 update on March 9.
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2-9 {4-16} ForstAMoon; noticed 9-9-09 on the coroner’s report.
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2-10 {4-16} Last page of autopsy report, including 9-9-09.
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2-11 {4-16} LA Coroner info, compare seal with MJ report, etc.
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2-12 {4-16} LA Coroner request form, ask about problems in MJ report.
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2-13 {4-16} TMZ; MJ “in great shape” (Hulk).
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2-14 {4-41} Happy Valentines Day!
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2-15 {4-6} tklein1014; about TMZ article: “its all a hoax” (MJ & Murray).
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2-16 {4-42} MJalive999; video, Murray Condemned Without Trial!
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2-17 {4-42} CNN; used “unnamed source” against Murray.
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2-18 {4-42} Mo; only statement from Murray himself was the YouTube video.
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2-19 {4-42} 2 Thessalonians 2:11; media & public believe a lie.
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2-20 {4-41} ImmabeLIEver05; LOVE is Michael’s message.
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2-21 {4-41} karmaknowstruth; personal testimony of living the LOVE.
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2-22 {4-7} ILikeTrains; MJ red shirt with “777” on it.
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2-23 {4-7} Very first TII picture, same red shirt.
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2-24 {4-7} First TII video clip (TDRCAU), same red shirt.
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2-25 {4-7} TII movie poster, same red shirt everywhere.
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2-26 {4-23 & 4-24} 911 call at 12:21; “death” at 2:26.
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2-27 {4-23} Em; 911 call same as end of Mayan calendar (12:21).
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2-28 {4-25} Revelation 21:1,4; end of the world is good news.
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3-1 {4-11} MTV; burial delayed again (to 9-3), no reason given.
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3-2 {4-21 & 4-39} Light Man introduction.
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3-3 {4-14} MJ autograph code on “Dangerous”.
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3-4 {4-21} Fireworks; red, white, and blues; July 4.
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3-5 {4-20} Anniversary of O2 conference, similarities with “V for Vendetta”.
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3-6 {4-19} CNNMoney; stock market bottom on 3-6: 666!
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3-7 {4-30} cgfm011; TMZ video on MJ coincidence with 7’s.
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3-8 {4-20} The idiot-maker rally started on 3-9.
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3-9 {4-1} Back to 9-9-09 update on 3-9 (and Coroner’s Report).
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4-4. Brief Review: 4 Major Reasons MJ Is Alive

Before getting into the meat of this update—for the sake of any hoax newbie’s (or even for seasoned hoaxers who need a reminder)—here are four major reasons to believe that MJ faked his death: #1 how the family has re-acted; #2 the Liberian Girl pictures at the memorial, and later the burial; #3 MJ’s remake of the Gilda movie, with a faked death, in This Is It (TII); #4 the lack of any MJ RIP in the TII cinema version, the TII DVD version, the 1-31-2010 Grammys, and TMZ (for seven months).

Why did the Jackson children look bored at the memorial?  Where was the grief?  Where were the tears, running down the faces of any of the Jacksons?  Oh yes, they were all wearing sunglasses (indoors), so we could not see their grief and tears—or perhaps, was it so that we would not see the lack of grief and tears?

The memorial, and the funeral/burial two months later, had pictures from Liberian Girl; in fact, at the burial, the only two pictures up front were both Liberian Girl pictures.  In case anyone doesn’t know, Liberian Girl is the video where MJ directed from behind the scenes; and nobody could see him, until the end.  Here is the Liberian Girl video {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}, and notice what MJ is wearing at the end; for funeral/burial program cover {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.  Here is the Liberian Girl photo {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login; and here is the main funeral/burial photo {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login at 1:09}.

MJ was a fan of old movies, and he was obviously well aware of Gilda—since he did a short remake of it for Smooth Criminal in TII {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login; You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.  Since MJ was well aware of this movie: no doubt he knew that one of the main characters, Ballin Mundson, was played by George Macready {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}—an actor who had the same birthday as MJ!  And to really top it all off: in the original Gilda movie, this same man “faked his death”!  Surely that did not slip the attention of MJ!  And surely, this is one of the main reasons he chose to remake this film.

Finally, after MJ supposedly died on June 25, we have had four major cases of dementia: the Grammys (MJ not listed in the musicians who had died since the previous year); TII cinema movie (no mention of MJ death or RIP); TII DVD, with additional material on it (and still no direct mention of 1958-2009, or RIP); and TMZ forgot MJ on their celebrity RIP page for seven months, until hoax believers reminded them about it {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.

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4-5. A Couple of Recent Major Events

Two fairly significant events happened last month, both about the same time.  Jackson attorney Brian Oxman came out and stated that there is a is 99.9% chance the ambulance photo is fake {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login; You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.  Remember, this is the one and only “official” picture of MJ we have ever seen; and now we learn that it was photo-shopped.  Actually, we knew it all along; but at least someone has finally stepped up to the plate and admitted it.

True, this does not prove that MJ is alive; the photo could’ve been faked for several reasons.  However, it is quite significant that the ambulance photo was one of the very first things that hoax believers recognized was fishy.  And now, more than half of a year later, we are hearing through a respected source that our first conclusion was correct!  Perhaps, just maybe, we might also be right in some of our other conclusions.

Actually there was another belief, early in the hoax—that MJ went to LAX, hopped on a private jet, and flew out of town on June 25, 2009.  Well, Jermaine has been nice enough to confirm this hoax belief also; Jermaine said: “He was very, very healthy but Michael was not with us, way before he arrived to the airport. ... I mean way before he arrived to the hospital.” {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login; You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}

Was this an intentional goof (big hint)?  If so, we have an MJ death hoax!  Or was it a Freudian slip?  If so, we still have a hoax!  Notice that shortly before saying “airport”, he paused a bit; so there was ample time for him to collect his thoughts, and get the wording right.  Also, what is the likelihood that Jermaine, a professional performer for the Jackson 5, would be so sloppy as to make such a goof accidentally?

Furthermore, how could you mix up an airport with a hospital—they are not similar: either in meaning, or in pronunciation.  And if it was just a random goof, having nothing to do with the hospital or the hoax: then why the word “airport”?  It would be just as likely to goof up and say the “golf course”, or the “barber shop”, or the “mall”, or “Pizza Hut”, or “Mount Everest”, or anything whatsoever OTHER than the AIRPORT!!!

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4-6. Is TMZ Just Playing Games?

TMZ has also had some very interesting things recently, including putting the You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login website right on the TMZ article!  They took it down later, but you can still see a screen shot of it in this thread {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login; see also You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.

TMZ had another article recently, mentioning both Conrad Murray and Michael Jackson; and among other interesting things, they had the following phrase: “it’s all a hoax”!  But there would be no reason for the word “all”, unless they were subtly referring to much more than just the Twitter account.  {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login; and see this thread You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}

In a different article about Conrad Murray, TMZ said: “Long before he may or may not have been responsible for the death of Michael Jackson, Dr. Conrad Murray was just another guy enjoying Carnival in Trinidad.” {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}  Whether or not TMZ is playing: they are thousands of miles ahead of the public and the media who are condemning Murray before the trial; at least TMZ is admitting that Murray may not be guilty (innocent until proven guilty).

Now compare that last “or may not” article with this one, from about one week earlier: “Murray showed up at Forest Lawn Memorial Park on Wednesday afternoon to visit the tomb of the man he may or may not have accidentally killed.” {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login; see also TIAI Update #3, You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.

Some believe that TMZ is giving valuable clues about the hoax, but others believe that TMZ is just playing around with hoax believers; here is a good thread on that subject. {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}

If TMZ is just goofing off, though, then why have they been first to report many things related to the Jacksons?  Do you think that the video from the Murray court was all made up by TMZ, just to laugh at a few thousand hoax believers?  And was TMZ merely playing games when they said that the FBI would release 333 pages of MJ files, or did the files actually get released?  Was TMZ just playing games when they said the investigation was complete in early January, or did things actually move forward a few weeks later?

In fact, let’s go back to June 25, 2009.  Was TMZ just playing games, when they were the first to announce that Michael Jackson had died?  Or did the rest of the media also verify the death soon after?  So TMZ was not just playing around on June 25: because when they said MJ died, he really died—wait a minute, woops, maybe TMZ was playing around on June 25!  Okay, so I guess it’s true: maybe TMZ does goof off a little bit now and then.



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In case anyone has not read TIAI Update #2 yet, here is the link for that: {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.  And here is a link for the whole series {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.

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3-1. Outline for TIAI Update #3

3-1. Outline for TIAI Update #3
3-2. Clues About Dates in Up-dates #1 & #2
3-3. Hoax Chronology is Based on CA Time
3-4. TMZ Clue for January 25
3-5. TMZ Big Clue for February 5
3-6. TMZ Clues for Murder or Hoax?
3-7. Return Delays: Long and Short
3-8. Do You Need More Evidence?
3-9. The Best Is Yet to Come!

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3-2. Clues About Dates in Up-dates #1 & #2

Did anyone notice that TIAI Update #1 had 18 sections, ending with “1-18”—this represented Update #1, and section 18; but it also represented the date, January 18 (1-18-2010).  Although MJ did not return on January 18 (see 3-7, below), there was a significant clue on that day: the ALLJACK5ONS tweet (see Update #2).

Update #2 had 5 sections, ending with “2-5”; and yes, this also represented the date, February 5 (2-5-2010).  Again, among many other things on February 5, TMZ had a big clue on that day (see 3-5, below).

Does this mean that nothing significant will happen before March 9 (3-9, the last section in this update)?  No; you don’t need to wait until March 9 to check TMZ again (see 3-9, below).

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3-3. Hoax Chronology is Based on CA Time

Of course the “death” was in CA (California), and was given in CA time (2:26 PM).  The memorial and the burial were also in CA.  And of course the LAPD (Los Angeles Police Department) is in Los Angeles, CA.  So whenever looking at dates and times related to the hoax, we need to be using the CA time zone {or Pacific Time, which is UTC minus 8 hours, You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.

Those who read my threads last fall, in the old MJHD forum, know that I always posted the threads on specific dates and times.  And I have also done this with the TIAI posts.  The easiest way to see the TIAI times is to go to your “User Control Panel”, then go to “Board preferences”, go down to “My timezone”, and select “[UTC – 8] Pacific Time” (then push the “Submit” button on the bottom).  Or if you would rather, just subtract 8 hours from the UTC default time in the forum.

TIAI Revealed (Part 1) was posted on 12-21, three years before 12-21-2012; it was also posted ten minutes before midnight (“It’s close to midnight … The midnight hour is close at hand …”).  TIAI Update #1 was posted at 11:11 PM on 1-11 (1+1+1+1+1+1+1 = 7).  TIAI Update #2 was posted on 1-21-2010 (1+2+1+2+1 = 7); it was also ten minutes before midnight, exactly one month after 12-21 (TIAI Revealed, Part 1).

TMZ is physically located in CA {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login; You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}; however, the times and dates reported on their website are given in Eastern Time.  This means that in order to convert times in TMZ articles into CA times, you need to subtract 3 hours.

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3-4. TMZ Clue for January 25

Even though MJ did not return on January 18 or 25 (see 3-7, below), there were major clues on both of these dates—as well as on February 5.  These three dates were all mentioned by TIAI weeks in advance (see TIAI Revealed, Part 6; TIAI Update #1, and TIAI Update #2 ending with “2-5”).

The big clue on 1-18, the tweet from ALLJACK5ONS, was already discussed in detail (see Update #2).  However, we are now going to look at the clues for 1-25 (this section) and 2-5 (next section).

Michael Jackson -- Live in Concert? Not Exactly
Michael Jackson
is back [return] … The email above sure makes it seem like Michael is performing in San Diego on Valentine’s Day. But the show is actually a laser light show set to Michael’s music. … Shocker.” {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}  Although this says that it’s merely a laser show, yet this is clearly a clue—especially since it ends with the word “shocker”!

And even though the article says it was “Posted Jan 26th 2010 7:00AM”, yet those who watch TMZ closely know that articles posted are often revised later to a different time.  But you can see when the article was originally posted, by looking at the time listed in the comments; with this article, the first comment was “Posted at 1:53AM on Jan 26th 2010”.  Now convert that from Eastern Time to Pacific Time (CA time), and the article was posted roughly an hour before midnight on January 25!

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3-5. TMZ Big Clue for February 5

Those who were watching TMZ and/or the hoax forums last week, are aware of the news on Murray and the court, etc.  Here are a dozen TMZ articles about Murray, all posted on February 5 and/or talking about February 5: {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login;
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That last one is very interesting; and it’s another example of an article being posted, and then the time being revised later: “Feb 6th 2010 7:00PM”.  The first comment was actually “Posted at 1:06AM on Feb 6th 2010”; in CA time, this would be about 10:00 PM on February 5!

So TMZ saved the best February 5 Murray article for last (the big clue article); and they even kept it at or near the top of the home page for about 24 hours (and it has far more comments than most TMZ articles).

Here is the big clue part: “Murray showed up at Forest Lawn Memorial Park on Wednesday afternoon to visit the tomb of the man he may or may not have accidentally killed.”  Notice first that it says “Wednesday”, and yet this news was not posted on TMZ until February 5!  Why not, unless it was supposed to be the big clue for “2-5”?

The clue part is quite obvious, at least to hoax believers: “may or may not have accidentally killed”.  Yes, it is carefully worded so that non-hoaxers would probably think that maybe Murray intentionally killed MJ (maybe not accidentally).  However, the emphasis is actually on the last word, “killed”; it does NOT say “may or may not have killed by accident”!  Instead, it says “may or may not have (accidentally) killed”!  Maybe MJ was not killed at all!!  {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}

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3-6. TMZ Clues for Murder or Hoax?

In TIAI Update #2, you can see not only the “2-5” date predicted in that update—but the subject matter of the February 5 prediction is also discussed.  TMZ is specifically mentioned, and in fact the last section has TMZ in the title (Is TMZ a Counterfeit Hoax Informer?).  There is also discussion about Dr. Murray in that update; and there is a whole section about murder or hoax (2-4).

And once again, what was the big clue for February 5?  It was a clue on TMZ about Conrad Murray; and the clue itself was worded in such a way that it could refer to intentional murder, or to the hoax (although the emphasis indicates hoax more than murder).

Now this brings up another point: has TMZ been giving clues all along that indicate intentional murder, or clues that indicate planned hoax??  I think you know the answer to that, especially if you have already read TIAI Update #1.  And again, the TMZ clue for January 25 has nothing to do with murder—it’s about MJ being “back” and performing “live in concert”, etc (see 3-4, above).  Therefore, hoax is the proper way to understand the February 5 clue: Murray may not have (accidentally) killed MJ, because maybe MJ is not dead!

Notice also that some of the reader comments under MJ articles are from hoax believers—sometimes there are quite a few hoax comments.  And we know that TMZ reads the comments, because sometimes they even respond to them.  Then we know for certain that they are aware of hoax believers; and in fact they even know that there are many hoax believers!

Yet TMZ doesn’t ever mention the hoax directly, why not?  Surely, if this was not a hoax, then they should say something against the hoax idea.  If it is a hoax, then they can only give clues—but not state things directly about the hoax, not until the right time.

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3-7. Return Delays: Long and Short

Speaking of the right time (MJ return): TIAI Revealed, and Update #1 already went into detail about the long delay from Halloween until January.  But MJ did not return in January, either; so does this mean that TMZ is a fake informer, since nothing happened on January 18 regarding the investigation?  {see again this article, You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}

No, it just means that there has been a short delay.  We know that this delay is much shorter than the first delay (three months): because things are now moving forward, only a couple of weeks after January 18 (and hopefully, there will not be any further delays).

Did anyone catch the clue during the Grammys, about the delay?    Paris said: “Daddy was supposed to be here.  Daddy was going to perform this year.  
But he couldn’t perform [this year?] last year!” {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login;
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As with all clues, this one was worded carefully—so that most people would think MJ could not perform this year, because he died.  However, neither Paris nor Prince said anything about their father dying or being dead.  The only thing mentioned by Paris was performance this year (versus last year); and for hoax believers, we know that she was not really talking about death keeping MJ from performing at the Grammys.

Then what was she talking about?  If MJ had returned on January 18, or 25, or even at the Grammys (January 31): then he could have performed “this year”.  But there was a delay, a change of plans; in fact, there wasn’t even a hologram performance.

By the way, as most of you know already, the 2010 Grammys did not include MJ in the list of music professionals who had died since the 2009 Grammys {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login;
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So we either have an MJ death hoax, or else we have four major cases of dementia: the Grammys; “This Is It” cinema movie (no mention of MJ death); “This Is It” with additional material on DVD (still no mention); and TMZ forgot MJ on their celebrity RIP page for seven months, until hoax believers reminded them about it {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.

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3-8. Do You Need More Evidence?

Is it clear enough yet, that MJ is alive—or do you need more evidence?  And is it clear enough yet that TIAI / STUDY has repeatedly demonstrated advance knowledge, on things about the hoax—or do you need more evidence?  Let’s review the examples again, and add the more recent cases (#12, #13, #14).

#1. MJ investigation complete, only two days after TIAI announced Update #1.
#2. 333 pages of FBI files, planned release on same day as TIAI Revealed.
#3. $9.99 while LaToya shopping, connecting with “99” days after 9-9-09.
#4. Six 911 articles on TMZ, the day after TIAI conspiracies on Google (911, etc).
#5. Murray on TMZ news four times, the same day as the TIAI Murray redirect.
#6. Vendetta on 11-5; Evan Chandler / Emerald City on 11-17 (70th anniversary).
#7. 2012 trailer, a week before “Jackson” and many other MJ parallels came out.
#8. TII Resurrection scene in a graveyard (not funeral & casket, etc).
#9. TII would Reveal the hoax (Smooth Criminal, no RIP, BAM statement, etc).
#10. TII would show the MJ “Return” (this very word is now on the DVD; stay tuned for the 9-9-09 update, including the spider “return” in TII).
#11. 1998 autograph codes; 77 days & 7 days all pointed to 9-9-09, and was fulfilled by several TII and MJ related events.
#12. ALLJACK5ONS tweet on 1-18 about TIAI “Revealed”.
#13. TMZ clue on January 25.
#14. TMZ, Murray, and murder versus hoax clue on February 5.

Do you remember redirect 17?  “And now I have told you before it comes, that when it does come to pass, you may believe.” (John 14:29, NKJV).

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3-9. The Best Is Yet to Come!

Well, even if you do need more evidence, keep watching for the 9-9-09 update.  It will show very strong evidence of the hoax, and against the murder theory—as well as further evidence that TIAI (STUDY) has genuine hoax information (and is not a fake informer).

Also keep watching TMZ; things are going to be very interesting!  As MJ himself  put it: “The best is yet to come!” {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}

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Although this update is shorter than the last one, it’s still too long to post in the replies section of the TIAI Update #1 thread (as I had previously mentioned).  In case anyone has not read TIAI Update #1 yet, here is the link for that: {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.

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2-1. Outline for TIAI Update #2

2-1. Outline for TIAI Update #2
2-2. ALLJACK5ONS Tweet “Revealed” on January 18
2-3. Official Media Story of MJ Death: Impossible!
2-4. Real Murder & Fake Hoax, or Fake Murder & Real Hoax?
2-5. Is TMZ a Counterfeit Hoax Informer?

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2-2. ALLJACK5ONS Tweet “Revealed” on MLK Day

Here is their tweet: “if u don't think our emotion is real, all I can do is pray for you. see truths when they r revealed to you. ur eyes don't lie - media does” {8:38 PM Jan 18th from web; You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.

First of all, we need to understand both the time and the subject context of this tweet.  The date was January 18, 2010—which was of course MLK Day; and indeed they knew what day it was, as can be clearly seen in two earlier tweets that day {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login; You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.  This was also one day after the final Jackson Reality Show, which ended with a visit to Forest Lawn {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.

The tweets both before and after the “revealed” tweet were all on the subject of the Reality Show, and especially the ending about MJ.  Some of the tweets even mention MJ specifically {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login; click “more” at the bottom of the page, until you get to January 18 tweets}.  

So the context of this “revealed” tweet is clearly about MJ.  The next step is to understand that this tweet is in response to hoax believers (“if u don't think our emotion is real”).  Hoaxers have been saying all along, that a huge evidence of the hoax is the lack of tears from the family at the memorial and burial, etc.  Surely, they are not ignorant of this.

And what could they possibly be responding to, other than the hoax—could it be that they were responding to accusations that their emotions were not real, because they don’t care that MJ is dead?  Who would say such a thing?  And even if someone was cold enough to say that, why would they even bother to respond?  Worse yet, why would they respond by saying that the media lies??  Has the media been trying to convince people (falsely), that the Jackson family’s emotions are not real???

Sorry, but the statement about emotions and media lying doesn’t make sense, unless they were referring to the hoax theory.  So this tweet was in response to hoax believers; and believers themselves have recognized this fact, in threads such as this one: “Jacksons address hoax!!” {posted by dirtydiana2009; You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.  Since this is the most direct statement yet, from the family, about hoax believers: this tweet deserves thorough investigation.

The part about their “emotion is real” does not specifically say emotion from MJ dying; it could be emotion from the pain that the media lies have caused, etc (media lies are mentioned in this tweet, MJ death is not mentioned in this tweet).  And in fact, even the hoax itself is painful for MJ (he knows that it has hurt the fans, and that hurts him; also, he wants to return as much or more than his fans want him to return).

Primarily, though, we need to examine the last half of this tweet: “see truths when they r revealed to you. ur eyes don't lie - media does”.  Notice the very clear plural usage: “see truths [plural] when they [plural] are [plural] revealed to you”.  If MJ really were dead, and this is all that they were trying to say, then why the plural?  Why wouldn’t it be “see the truth [MJ is dead] when it is revealed”?

And again, why the reference to the media lying??  If the Jacksons know that MJ is really dead, and this is what they are referring to here, then why wouldn’t they be supporting media “truth” (reports that MJ is dead)??  And why the phrase “ur eyes don’t lie”?  We have never seen any dead body; so “ur eyes don’t lie” can’t possibly mean that our eyes have already seen for ourselves that MJ is really dead.

The only conclusion which makes sense, is that the Jacksons tweet mentioned “truths” about the hoax—and our eyes don’t lie regarding these things.  This also fits the statement about the media lies—the media is not telling the truth about the hoax, they are saying that MJ is dead (but our eyes can see the hoax).

Now let’s take it a step further.  Since this is clearly referring to truths about the hoax: why did they use the word “revealed”?  Why not use some other word, such as “see truths when they r shown to you”?  Or “recognize truths when they r seen by you”?  Or any of several other ways to say it?

Do you suppose that they were entirely ignorant of TIAI Revealed—which was posted nearly a month before 1-18, and Part 1 had about 11,000 views by 1-18?  Also, TIAI Revealed Update #1 was posted one week before 1-18, and had about 15,000 views by 1-18.  Few if any posts on this forum have more views.  If any of the Jacksons were paying any attention whatsoever to the hoax forums, then surely they were already aware of TIAI Revealed, on 1-18.

For the sake of TIAI doubters, let’s say that TIAI is not really MJ’s message.  Don’t you think in that case, the Jacksons would avoid any hint of support for TIAI—and maybe even give hints against it?  Yet instead of that, they use the very word “revealed” in this tweet, the statement which is the clearest statement yet from them about the hoax; and they refer to the things “revealed” as “truths” that “ur eyes” can and should “see”.

Not only did they use the word “revealed”, but they also referred to the media lies—which is one of the main themes in TIAI.  Notice that TIAI Revealed, Part 7, even has the word media in the title: “NWO Powers Control the Mass Media”; and redirect #9 has the title: “9/11 Truth vs Mainstream Media”.

Last but not least: why was this tweet given on January 18, MLK Day?  Do you think that they knew nothing about the MLK connections with the hoax (They Don’t Really Care About Us?)—and do you think they were totally unaware of TIAI Update #1 (with 15,000 views), and the things in there about January 18???

So we have here a clear Jackson statement about the hoax, using the word “revealed”, and referring to media lies—and it was even done on January 18, MLK Day!  Either these things are more TIAI “coincidences” (added to all the previous ones), or else they were giving clues about TIAI.

Well, how much clearer of a clue do you want?  Do they need to spell out the domain for you: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login??  Be assured, that will not happen before MJ comes back (it would be too big of a hint about the hoax).  In fact, don’t be too surprised if they don’t say anything directly even after MJ comes back—surely you can understand why, due to the nature of the subjects involved.

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2-3. Official Media Story of MJ Death: Impossible!

This section (2-3), and the next section (2-4), are especially for those who are losing faith—and thinking that maybe MJ is really dead.

Here is the tweet again: “if u don't think our emotion is real, all I can do is pray for you. see truths when they r revealed to you. ur eyes don't lie - media does” {8:38 PM Jan 18th from web; You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.

For the sake of the die-hard TIAI opposers, and even for the sake of those losing faith: let’s consider all possibilities about the word “revealed” in this tweet.  Perhaps they were aware of TIAI Revealed, and used the “revealed” word anyway; or perhaps they were unaware of TIAI Revealed, and this is yet another round of TIAI & STUDY “coincidences”: usage of the word “revealed”, the reference to media lies, and tweeted on 1-18 (plus all the previous “coincidences”, see Update #1, 1-10).  Let’s consider both of these possible situations (Jacksons aware of TIAI, or unaware).

If they were already aware of TIAI Revealed (and Update #1, about January 18): and they knew that TIAI is a fake message (either fake because MJ is really dead, or fake because MJ is alive yet TIAI message is wrong): then surely they would’ve avoided mentioning “truths ... revealed” in the same tweet about media lies on MLK Day!!!  The only sane conclusion is that they are in support of TIAI Revealed, or else they have never even heard of it (and it was more “coincidences”).

But if you take the position that they are entirely ignorant of TIAI, it brings up several major problems.  Why would they be ignorant of TIAI, are they paying no attention whatsoever to the hoax forums?  Even if MJ were really dead, don’t you think that at least one person in the family might check the hoax forums now and then—and share the highlights with other family members?  Don’t you think that TIAI redirects and Revealed would be one of those highlights, since there are so many views on TIAI posts?  And especially if they know that MJ is alive, then wouldn’t they be even far more interested in the hoax forums??

For TIAI opposers and hoax doubters, we will now examine very seriously the only remaining realistic possibility.  For the Jacksons to not be in favour of TIAI, all three of the following things would have to be true: first, MJ actually died; second, none of the family members are paying any attention whatsoever to the hoax forums; and third, the tweet about “truths ... revealed” and media lies on MLK Day are more amazing TIAI coincidences.

Some will probably find it easy to buy the third one, “coincidences”; a few may even think that the second one is true (Jacksons don’t read the forums)—but what about MJ actually being dead, could this be what the “truths ... revealed” tweet is about?  We already examined that a little above, but now it’s time to take a much more serious look into this question—especially since more and more hoaxers are losing faith.

As noted already above, this tweet mentions media lies—in the context of Forest Lawn, and MJ, etc.  So we can now be certain that the Jacksons do not agree with the media story about MJ’s “death”—we can rule that out as impossible!  The only question is whether the media reports are not true because MJ is still alive, or the media reports are not true because MJ was intentionally murdered.

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2-4. Real Murder & Fake Hoax, or Fake Murder & Real Hoax?

The intentional murder theory has been around just about as long as the hoax theory (although not nearly as widely accepted as the hoax); and La Toya has even given support to this idea {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.  But there are several major evidences against the murder theory—not the least of which is the family themselves!

Even La Toya’s murder complaints have come across more as a hoax diversion tactic, than a serious outcry for justice.  But why hasn’t the entire family screamed “bloody murder”, if this is really what they believe???  Are they walking on eggshells, until the time is right to expose the murder plot?  This is worthy of consideration; but if that is the case, then why did La Toya spill the beans?  Why didn’t she keep quite like the rest?

Furthermore, the murder theory does not answer to the lack of tears from any of the family at the memorial and burial; quite the opposite—we saw smiling, laughing, many sunglasses (hiding tears, or hiding lack of tears??), and all the rest that most of you have known about for months.  If they really thought that MJ was murdered, then you would expect them to be as much or more emotional than a real death from other reasons.

On June 25, TMZ reported that “La Toya Jackson was in tears as she ran inside the UCLA …” {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.  Notice in the picture that we can see her running, we can even see a close-up of her face—but we see no tears!  We can see the sunglasses (as usual); but if there are any tears, they are not flowing down her face (and are only minor tears, hidden by the glasses).

All of the major evidences of the hoax still exist, they have not vanished.  People are losing faith (thinking that maybe MJ is actually dead)—not because the hoax evidence has disappeared, but because MJ has not returned yet.  But this fact, in and of itself, is no evidence that he was murdered.

We now know for certain that the media story about MJ’s “death” is not true (from the ALLJACK5ONS tweet).  In the past, hoaxers have put the hoax evidence up against the official story.  But we don’t need to do that anymore; the only thing left that we need to do, is put the hoax evidence up against the intentional murder theory.  So let’s re-examine some of the major hoax evidences, in light of the murder theory.

This theory requires an extremely sinister and highly-calculated plot, with many involved—probably including at least some in the Jackson family.  Please don’t get me wrong, I am not trying to say that this is the actual case; I am merely showing that this theory is totally unrealistic.

There can be no trace of doubt that if this was murder, it was intentionally covered up by trying to make it look like a death hoax; and it was well planned, long before June 25, 2009.  But you would have to include Kenny Ortega, and many others, who were all involved in this plot to create the film “This Is It” and make it look like an MJ death hoax (Smooth Criminal / Gilda, spider resurrection, “Bam” statement at the end, no RIP, etc).

Then you have the Liberian Girl pictures at the memorial and burial.  Surely you would think that at least one family member was involved in the selection of these pictures; and surely the family is not ignorant of MJ directing behind the scenes, in the Liberian Girl video.  Either someone outside of the family (who was part of this sinister murder plot) had the power to require that these Liberian Girl pictures be used, or else the family was in on the murder plot (or else, of course, it was not murder).

Last but certainly not least: the 9-9-09 timing shows strikingly that the June 25 “death” and September 3 “burial” were not only planned, but they were planned by MJ himself—and not some NWO murder plot.  This is because the timing is based on 77 days (6-25-09 to 9-9-09) and 7 days (9-3-09 to 9-9-09); these are numbers that MJ would certainly choose, but probably not NWO powers.

Furthermore, the usage of inclusive reckoning is something that none but diligent Bible students would understand; corrupt NWO leaders do not study the Bible very much (if at all), or care about inclusive reckoning in the Bible.  Even many sincere Christians don’t know very much if anything about inclusive reckoning, much less NWO murderers.

I have yet to give an update on the 9-9-09 relationship to the hoax; it is one of the strongest evidences of the hoax, and against the murder theory.  But I have decided not to give that update until after the TII DVD comes out.

For those who are still not sure if MJ is alive, even after all of the evidence in this TIAI update: here is your ultimate test, how to get closure.  If Murray gets thrown in the slammer, then MJ is really dead.  And watch for the Jacksons to reveal truths about the murder: “see truths when they r revealed to you. ur eyes don't lie”.  If this tweet is not about the hoax, then it is about an intentional murder; and therefore they are saying that our eyes will see truths about this murder.

If the doctor goes to trial, and is found not guilty: again, watch the family.  If they make an uproar (which they are certainly capable of doing, with all the publicity that they get)—and show truths about a murder plot, then MJ is really dead.  But if they act nearly the same as at the memorial and funeral, then MJ is alive.  And last of all, if MJ returns before the Murray trial—well I hope that will give you closure!!!  Whatever, something is sure to happen soon and very soon.

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2-5. Is TMZ a Counterfeit Hoax Informer?

For those who did check TMZ on January 18, you may have seen the organized protest against mainstream media (NBC), although it was not specifically about MJ {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.  And of course, as already discussed in length above, January 18 was the day of the Jacksons tweet.

But some hoax believers have said that maybe TMZ is a counterfeit hoax informer, especially since January 18 came and went without the big MJ return.  However, if TMZ does not have actual information about MJ, then why were they the first ones to report the “death”?  Whether or not you believe the hoax, there can be no question that TMZ had insider information about MJ’s “death”.

Now for the sake of argument: let’s say that MJ himself was a member on a hoax forum, and announced a return date—but the date came and went, with no return.  Would this prove that MJ is a counterfeit informer, or would it prove that he had to change his plans?  By now, probably everyone knows that there was a major earthquake in Haiti, just one day after TIAI Update #1 {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.  This does not mean that the earthquake was the only reason why MJ did not return on 1-18; but it is an example of how things can happen, which cause a change in plans.

Notice what TIAI said about specific dates, in TIAI Revealed Part 6 (R22): “As he [MJ] said at the end of the movie: I will come ‘in my own time’; it is up to him alone, and nobody else will be able to figure it out for sure.  Some distinct possibilities include: 12-25-09 (Christmas), 12-31-09 (full moon & New Years Eve), 1-1-10 (New Years Day), 1-18-10 (MLK Day), 1-25-10 (seven months since the ‘death’, and same time as the DVD release), or beyond.”

Also notice the title of Update #1: “HIGH PROBABILITY OF MJ ‘RETURN’ THIS MONTH!”  It did not say “certainty”; and even the high “probability” was only “this month”—not necessarily January 18.  And this month is not over yet; in fact, it has been ten days since TIAI Update #1, and there is still ten days to the end of January.

Some wondered why the word “RETURN” in the title (of Update #1) was in quote marks.  Was it for emphasis, or was it indicating a non-real return (like when we refer to the “death” in quotes, it’s not a real death).  Those who carefully read TIAI Revealed (Part 6), you will probably understand why it was in quotes.  It goes back to my STUDY prediction about the TII movie rated “R”—for “Resurrection” (Thriller spider), hoax “Revealed” (Smooth Criminal, etc), and MJ “Return” (also this word used in the TII DVD).

If you read the replies and posts after Update #1, many people wisely cautioned against getting hopes too high for January 18; yet many got their hopes up anyway, and were very disappointed.  Although the disappointment was unfortunate, yet a far greater disappointment is the fact that some are still more interested in a return date than they are about the reasons for the hoax {see “BAM! HE IS ‘BACK’!” by MJalive999; You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.

Nevertheless, it is encouraging that a large percentage of hoax believers have now seen and accepted the major reasons for the hoax.  And again, if you read the replies, you will see that many are more interested in the message than the exact return date.  Because January 18 was yet another of several disappointments, some have requested that we don’t use any more specific return date theories.  So be it.  When we are ready, when MJ is ready, he will return—no sooner, and no later.

Well, it’s time to wrap up this second update.  In these updates I am not trying to defend myself; what I am defending is the message.  And I am trying to help make MJ’s “return” safer, sooner, and more successful when he does come back.

The complaints against TIAI are losing their power, especially after this update.  Almost all recent complaints have zero evidence, only derogatory statements.  But anybody can say derogatory things, and it means nothing whatsoever (except that it shows what you personally don’t like).  For those who want to go by truth, and not mere feelings, you need to base things on evidence.  Truth can stand up to the test of evidence.

And finally, for those who might still have any doubts about TIAI, notice that fake informers usually make big claims about who they are (I’ve never said that I’m MJ, or Marlon, etc).  Fake informers also come and go with the wind—can you count how many there have been, in the last half of a year?  I can’t count them.  And where are most of them now?  Did they get bored?  Or did it become obvious that they didn’t know anything in advance, etc?

In striking contrast to these fake informers, why is TIAI (& STUDY) still around after about half of a year—and going stronger than ever??  Why has TIAI (& STUDY) repeatedly shown advance information, as well as TIAI clues from TMZ and now the Jacksons?  TIAI is not going away.  It’s time for all of MJ’s real fans to accept his real message—it’s all for L.O.V.E.

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Great News!!!  There is a real good chance that this is the last TIAI update which will be needed, before MJ is ready to “Return”!  Please read this carefully, and encourage other hoaxers to read it, so that we can all be ready for the big day.

This is the first update to the 9-part series titled TIAI Revealed; if you have not read those yet, you won’t be able to follow this update very well.  Here is a link to read the 9-part series: {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.

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1-1. Outline for TIAI Update #1

1-1. Outline for TIAI Update #1
1-2. The Timing of TIAI Update #1
1-3. What Does the Username “TS” Stand For?
1-4. Why Do You Believe the Hoax?
1-5. TMZ Knows About the Hoax
1-6. MJ Death Investigation Complete
1-7. Why Would the “Return” Depend on Hoaxers?
1-8. TMZ News and Clues Related to TIAI
1-9. TIAI and STUDY Predictions that Came True
1-10. Review of Evidences that TIAI is Genuine
1-11. The Lynyrd Skynyrd Example
1-12. MJ Was a Jehovah’s Witness
1-13. MJ’s Religious Beliefs After 1987
1-14. J.W. Influence Even After the MJ “Death”
1-15. Some of the J.W. Beliefs
1-16. The New World Order?
1-17. The End of the (New) World (Order)?
1-18. The End of This TIAI Update

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1-2. The Timing of TIAI Update #1

Quoting from TIAI Revealed, Part 1: “For the most part, I will not be involved personally in the discussions; but I will occasionally answer objections to what I am revealing now.”

I knew that there would be objections; and (as stated above) I was planning on giving time for people to read all 9 parts, and let the dust settle, before responding to anyone.  In fact, some hoax believers were able to answer many of the objections, without any direct help from TIAI—which shows that in many cases the truth is not so hard to find, if you really want to know it.

Now, there has been time for the dust to settle.  And in fact, the date today is 1-11 (TII movie was 111 minutes long); also, today is one week until 1-18-10 (MLK day), and two weeks until 1-25-10 (seven months since “death”).  So as you can see, it was already planned for today to be the next TIAI update.  Further below in this update, we will look at the importance of today’s date being the planned day for the next update.

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1-3. What Does the Username “TS” Stand For?

As far as the person(s) operating TIAI (dot-com): many people are not concerned who it is; they just see the importance of the message, and the evidence that it is genuine, and that is sufficient for them.

Others have tried to name a specific person behind it—such as Marlon Jackson, or someone with the personal initials of “TS”.  If it really is Marlon, then surely TIAI would be genuine; however, even if I claimed to be Marlon, this would not prove that I really am Marlon.  This is why I asked people to go by the evidence that the information is genuine, and not by my claim of who I am or where I got the information.

On the other hand, if I claimed to be someone with the initials of “TS”—this would not prove that I really have those initials; in fact, it wouldn’t even prove that I am not Marlon!  And even if I really did have these initials, how could that be any evidence whatsoever that TIAI is or is not genuine???  And yet several have dismissed TIAI, merely on this idea that I have these personal initials!

For the sake of argument, let’s assume that I do have these personal initials—and if this fact became known, then that alone would prove TIAI to be a fake.  Do you suppose that if this were actually the case, I would be so careless as to use “TS” for a username???  After all of the time and thought that was put into TIAI and STUDY: would “TS” thoughtlessly be picked for a username, if it would (supposedly) prove that TIAI is fake?  Have any of you TIAI objectors stopped to think about how flimsy your objections really are?  And by the way: did any of you sharp investigators notice that “TS” is an abbreviation for T-IAI and S-TUDY??

Several people misunderstood the following statement, which was in TIAI Revealed, Part 1: “I am not going to say right now how I got this information; many would not believe me if I told you.”

The point here, especially taken in the wider context, is that I am not asking anyone to believe the information based upon my claim of who is behind TIAI, and/or where the information came from.  For example, if I claimed to be Marlon, many would not believe that I am Marlon just because I say so.  The words “many would not believe me if I told you”, refer to the previous phrase: “how I got this information”—it is not the information itself that many would not believe, if I told you where I got it.

So once again, the information itself has abundant evidence in the 9 parts, that the information is genuine; so any claim of where I got it is not needed.  What is needed, however, is a clear understanding of the evidence which does show the information to be valid.  This evidence was understood fairly well by some, but almost completely overlooked and ignored by others—including some who said they read all 9 parts.  I have to wonder how quickly they skimmed over it.  So in this update, I will go over the evidences that TIAI is genuine; many of these will be repeats taken from portions of the 9 parts (which quite a few people missed and/or ignored), but there will also be a few new ones.

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1-4. Why Do You Believe the Hoax?

It’s true that a few things can happen by random coincidence; but when they keep piling one on top of another, that’s when you say it can’t all be a coincidence.  In fact, this is one of the main reasons why so many believe in the MJ hoax—because there are too many “coincidences”.  And if you are going to dismiss all the TIAI evidence as merely “coincidences”: then why don’t you dismiss the MJ hoax “coincidences” as well?

So we will review the TIAI (and STUDY) “coincidences”, all of which are backed up with very solid evidence.  For those who want to continue opposing TIAI, you are more than welcome to do so as long as your opposition is based on solid evidence—not mere ridicule, or shallow complaints, etc.  And also please step up to the plate, and explain all of these “coincidences”—instead of just ignoring them, and pretending that they don’t exist.  And if you think anything is incorrect, then please document why it is wrong.  People shouldn’t be expected to trust what you say, merely because you say it—anymore than people should be expected to trust what TIAI says, without solid evidence.

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1-5. TMZ Knows About the Hoax

Many hoax investigators already recognize that TMZ knows about the hoax.  Nevertheless, for those who aren’t aware of this (and a review for those who are), let’s go over the evidence of this here.

TMZ was first to report the “death” of MJ, ahead of anyone else by seven minutes {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}—even though they are “Celebrity Gossip” news (in their own words).  And even though they were first to report the “death”, and have reported many things about MJ and the “death” since then—yet today, more than half of a year later, they still haven’t filed MJ’s “death” under the official list of celebrity deaths {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.

But TMZ has done a very large number of “exclusive” reports on MJ; if you read these, you should recognize that many of them are either clues for hoax investigators, or decoys for the media and general public.

For example, on 7-7 (July 7) TMZ gave a clue about the 7 year “coincidence” from the will to the memorial {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.  And on the same day, TMZ listed several of the other “coincidences” with MJ and the number 7 {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.  And remember that it was 77 days (inclusive) from the death to 9-9-09, and 7days (inclusive) from the burial to 9-9-09.  {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login; You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.

Recently, TMZ gave a huge clue with the following statement: “Much like 2Pac, Michael Jackson has no problem releasing new music, even though he’s ... ya know, dead.” {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.  All MJ hoax investigators immediately recognize that 2Pac is heavily associated with the “death faker” concept—and yet, to make it even clearer, TMZ went right on to infer that MJ is not really dead: “even though he’s ... ya know, dead.” (the “…” ellipse here is in the TMZ article, indicating that they are leaving something unstated about the MJ “death”).

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1-6. MJ Death Investigation Complete

I didn’t really expect anything on Christmas or New Years Eve.  I did include these as possible dates, mostly because so many people were expecting it.  But I’m not merely saying this just because it didn’t happen in December; instead, I give you the evidence of this.

Christmas was too soon after TIAI was revealed—it was not enough time for people to read the 9 parts, digest them, object to them, let the dust settle, and then respond to the objections (such as this update), etc.  And if you carefully read TIAI Revealed, Part 6: you can see that the evidence there was pointing to 2010 for an MJ “Return” (and most particularly, January).

If you go to the “TIAI Revealed” user page on YouTube {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}, you can find the following brief announcement under the Channel Comments: “Thanks so much, all you soldiers of L.O.V.E.  Keep checking ThisIsAlsoIt(dot)com, I will have an update soon.”  This was posted on Wednesday, January 6, 2010—as can be seen by the “# of days ago” in parenthesis (soon it will change to the “# of weeks ago”; but even then, you can watch for the day of the week when this changes, to verify when the comment was posted).

This update that you are reading now, is what that announcement was referring to; and this entire update is all about the MJ return (probably in January).  The timing of this update (today is 1-11) was already planned before the January 6 announcement—which should be obvious by the fact that it is a numerology date (111), and also exactly one week before 1-18 (MLK), and two weeks before 1-25 (7 months since the “death”).  The subject of this update was also planned before January 6—which should be obvious by the facts just stated (1-18 & 1-25), as well as the fact that in TIAI Revealed (Part 1) I specifically said that I would “answer objections to what I am revealing now [on 12-21-09].”

What is the significance of this timing?   Why am I showing that both the timing and the subject of this update was already planned, even before the YouTube announcement on 1-6-10?  Because only two days after my YouTube announcement, TMZ made the biggest announcement since June 25, 2009 (and it was another one of those many TMZ “exclusives” on MJ).

Michael Jackson Death Investigation Complete
The LAPD investigation into Michael Jackson's death has been completed and the case will go to the D.A. within weeks … we're told it will happen in a matter of weeks.” {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login; see also MJalive999 video, You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login; You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login; You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}

Wow!  This Is It!  We are down to the final curtain call, here.  Soon and very soon, either Murray is going to get the book thrown at him; or else MJ is going to return “within weeks”, and Murray will not be in hot water—either way, the end of the hoax is near (as I said in TIAI Revealed, Part 8).

This huge TMZ clue, and the huge 2Pac clue from TMZ (mentioned above), both came a few weeks after TIAI was revealed—when there had been time for people to digest it, and when many had accepted it (and joined the Army of L.O.V.E.).

Now let’s look at the strong evidence of MJ returning on January 18 (or possibly about one week later—which would be 7 months from the “death”, and also is when the DVD comes out).  First of all, the TMZ “within weeks” statement above points to something happening soon and very soon.

Next, January 18 is the MLK holiday—which of course ties very directly with the MLK statement in the song “They Don’t Really Care About Us”.  Do you remember that this song was the only one from the TII rehearsals that was played on the media, after MJ “died”?  Don’t you think that this was a big clue about the purpose of the hoax?  “In what will go down in history as the greatest demonstration for freedom ...”  And do you remember that this was the very last TIAI redirect, before TIAI was revealed?

Exactly two months before January 18 (on November 18, 2009), TMZ posted the following: “Jackson Investigation Mystery Date
Big clue in the Michael Jackson investigation -- the LAPD detective leading the probe indicated January 18, 2010 may be a significant date.  Detective Orlando Martinez asked a Las Vegas judge this AM to keep search warrant documents related to Applied Pharmacy secret until January 18.” {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}

This would’ve been after the TII movie came out, and in fact after the TIAI redirects were already in progress.  This was a “Big clue” about a “significant date” and a Jackson “Mystery Date”!  Why would January 18 be a day when search warrant documents would no longer be “secret”?  That day is a holiday!  Why wouldn’t they say that the documents would be de-classified on January 19 (which is not a holiday, and when things would not be closed for the holiday)?  January 18 is a holiday right after the weekend, so it should’ve been either January 15 or January 19—unless of course this was a “big clue” about a “significant date”, a “mystery date”, when MJ would return!   (P.S.  On January 18, don’t forget to check TMZ!)

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1-7. Why Would the “Return” Depend on Hoaxers?

Several have asked: why would the timing of the MJ return be dependent (at least partly) upon few thousand hoax believers, and their understanding/accepting the TIAI information?  A simple answer is that the reaction of the few before the return, can be a pretty good indicator of the reaction of the many after the return
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But think about it.  After returning, MJ can speak publicly about the environment and other issues related to healing the world; but with some aspects, well I think you can figure things out.  As soon as MJ returns, there will be a stampede on all the hoax forums; there will be tens of thousands, or even hundreds of thousands, suddenly interested in what we have been investigating and saying all along.  So if we hoax believers now are united on the reasons for the hoax: it will be much more effective when others come asking questions, than if we are all confused and disagreeing on the reasons for the hoax.

Here is how Mo put it: “It's a process to make people AWARE of what is going on. If you don't research, read, learn and understand, you won't become aware. If S.T.U.D.Y., TS or any Anonymous poster would have told you plain out who he/she is and where all the info he/she has came from, you would not have read the full explanation and wouldn't have learned anything.  TIAI pointed out to conspiracies and NWO, and those issues were rejected by a lot of people until TIAI pointed out to them. Me? Guilty as charged... I skipped the ‘Illuminati’ threads as well until TIAI forced me to look into this whole issue. After researching it, and not reading up on the conspiracies and NWO only, a lot of things became clear to me.” {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}

So if there are any questions or objections that I have not addressed in this thread, please post them in the replies below; and I will answer them directly right here in the replies (I will watch this thread pretty closely, for the next week or two, and respond to things as needed—so as to help clear the way as far as possible for a speedy “Return”).

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1-8. TMZ News and Clues Related to TIAI

In addition to what was already mentioned above (about TIAI update announced two days before the investigation completed announcement): there are other cases where the TMZ news and clues came shortly after TIAI—which shows that TIAI was not copying TMZ.

The TIAI reveal on 12-21-09 was announced on 12-15-09 {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}; this was a few days before TMZ announced that the MJ FBI files would be released on Monday 12-21-09 {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login; it did get delayed until 12-22, You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.  There were 333 FBI pages released, which is the difference between 666 and 999 (the Dangerous autograph code).  For those who are new to this 9-9-09 numerology, I will have an updated version of it in the next few days {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.

Speaking of 9-9-09, the redirect for 12-16 & 12-17 was “99”—which was 99 days from 9-9-09 (inclusive on the 16th, and standard on the 17th).  99 is also 9 + 9 = 18 (January 18, MLK day); and then two days later, on December 18, TMZ posted this video of LaToya Jackson Christmas shopping (although posted on the 18th, she did the actual shopping on the “99” redirect day).  At 0:47, the camera points to a “9.99” price tag for about 5 seconds {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.

Another TMZ “coincidence” was on 12-8-09.  This was the middle of the conspiracy / NWO section of redirects (part 7); and it was also one day after the Google search redirect with Pearl Harbor (12-7) & 911, etc.  On December 8, TMZ had six different articles with “911” in the article heading {see TIAI Revealed, Part 7}.  Occasionally, TMZ has one or two articles with “911” in the heading on the same day; once in a rare while, three.  But whenever was there six different “911” articles on the same day?  And remember, six is the number of the NWO (conspiracies), the beast (666), etc.

Back on November 23, the TIAI redirect was the People magazine article about Conrad Murray.  But the redirect was done the night before, as usual, late November 22 (California time).  After that redirect, on the 23rd, Conrad Murray was mentioned repeatedly in the TMZ news {see TIAI Revealed, Part 6}.

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1-9. TIAI and STUDY Predictions that Came True

On November 5, TIAI pointed to the “V for Vendetta” page on Wikipedia (not a movie trailer, or YouTube showing of it, etc).  This was sadly fulfilled by the Evan Chandler suicide.  This news was reported on November 17, which was also the 70th anniversary one night showing of “The Wizard of Oz”.  But TIAI redirected the night before, as usual, and pointed to a Wikipedia photo with the Yellow Brick road and Emerald City behind.  This photo came from the Emerald City page on Wikipedia, not the Wizard of Oz page {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.  What are the odds that the E-van C-handler news came out on this same day, and had the same initials as E-merald C-ity, all by coincidence?

Yet another “coincidence” is that TIAI pointed to the “2012” movie trailer, more than a week before the MJ parallels were made public.  And is it just a coincidence that the TIAI domain name, with all these predictions coming true, is operated by STUDY—which also had several predictions come true?

STUDY predicted, more than a month before “This Is It” was seen by the public, that the MJ “resurrection” scene would not be at a funeral with MJ coming out of the casket; instead, it would be a graveyard scene (see TIAI Revealed, Part 6).  This came true, with the graveyard and spider “resurrection” scene during Thriller 2.

How did STUDY know that there would be any MJ “resurrection” scene at all?  Several people were expecting a resurrection scene in TII from the setting of the burial at Forest Lawn (MJ hopping out of the casket).  In fact, when I first made my MJ resurrection prediction, it was before the TII trailer was released—so the public didn’t even know if there would be any Thriller 2 or graveyard scenes in the movie at all, much less any MJ resurrection scene!

Another STUDY prediction was that “This Is It” would reveal the hoax, which it did (lack of MJ R.I.P., or any mention of his death; Smooth Criminal hoaxed death; MJ BAM statement after the credits; etc).  Some interpreted “reveal the hoax” to mean that MJ would “Return” to public knowledge at that time; and although this was possible, it did not happen.  But I used “Return” for that concept; and indeed the DVD version of TII uses the very same word, “Staging the Return”!  {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login—then click on “Special Features”}

If all this is coincidence: how is it that STUDY is also the one who decoded the 1998 MJ autograph codes, the 77 days from death to 9-9-09, the 7 days from memorial to 9-9-09, and predicted the 9-9-09 connections with TII a couple of days before 9-9-09?  {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login; You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}

Since some of you are new, and/or did not read the STUDY predictions before they came true: so I asked those who did remember these things, to post their testimony; and here are some quotes, from old MJHD members.

“I remember very clearly S.T.U.D.Y' s predictions and posts on the old MJHD....and they did happen.  I doubt it is someone yanking our chains....I would be paying attention.” {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login; Adi}

“TS has left us clues to things BEFORE theyve happened....not like on LKL blogs where they give clues to things AFTER they have happened.” {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login; The Jacksonologist}

“I very much enjoyed all of your post on MJHD, everything that you stated above regarding all of your previous post are true.” {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login; Mish1981}

“Yes I rember you study and yes you did predict everything ahead.” {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login; misha86}

“So yes, i remember them very well and all what you are saying here i remember!
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1-10. Review of Evidences that TIAI is Genuine

Since many people didn’t get it last time (in the 9 parts): let’s go over very briefly some of the more significant TIAI and STUDY “coincidences” (actually, evidences that TIAI is genuine).  They are numbered, below.

#1. MJ investigation complete, only two days after TIAI announced this update.
#2. 333 pages of FBI files, planned release on same day as TIAI Revealed.
#3. $9.99 while LaToya shopping, connecting with “99” days after 9-9-09.
#4. Six 911 articles on TMZ, the day after TIAI conspiracies on Google (911, etc).
#5. Murray on TMZ news four times, the same day as the TIAI Murray redirect.
#6. Vendetta on 11-5; Evan Chandler / Emerald City on 11-17 (70th anniversary).
#7. 2012 trailer, a week before “Jackson” and many other MJ parallels came out.
#8. TII Resurrection scene in a graveyard (not funeral & casket, etc).
#9. TII would Reveal the hoax (Smooth Criminal, no RIP, BAM statement, etc).
#10. TII would show the MJ “Return” (this very word is now on the DVD).
#11. 1998 autograph codes; 77 days & 7 days all pointed to 9-9-09, and was fulfilled by several TII and MJ related events.

Can any of you TIAI opposers show evidence like I have above, that you know more about the hoax than this—in advance?  Can you explain how these “coincidences” all happened?  And in fact, can any of those on the internet claiming to be MJ—or an MJ inside informer—can any of you show a history of accurate predictions like this, or even half as many?

Or can anyone show that either TIAI or STUDY ever said anything that was inaccurate?  Or ever predicted anything that did not come true??  If so, please post it in the replies below.  And if not, then why all the opposition?

Yes, as I said in TIAI Revealed (Part 6): STUDY did predict the MJ return at Halloween.  And indeed, I tried hard to prepare hoax believers for that to happen; but it did not happen, at least in part because MJHD was forbidding discussion on the very subjects that needed to be understood (conspiracies, NWO, etc).

Furthermore, as I said in TIAI Revealed (Part 6): TMZ news about when the Murray investigation would be completed, has always been a clue about the timing of the MJ return.  Now that TMZ has said the investigation is complete, we can see this fact even clearer.

And last fall, these TMZ clues were clearly pointing to the MJ return around Halloween; so, once again, the MJ return had to be delayed.  Clear back on September 16, 2009, TMZ reported: “Jackson Probe Coming in for a Landing  Law enforcement sources tell TMZ the Michael Jackson homicide case will be presented to the L.A. County District Attorney in 3 to 4 weeks.  We're told the lion's share of the investigation has been completed and Dr. Conrad Murray remains the singular target.” {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login, exclusives}.  Then on October 8, 2009, TMZ reported: “… the investigation into MJ’s death should wrap up next week -- and Murray is still the sole target.” {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}

Here we are again.  Fortunately, though, this time around we have made some progress.  MJHD is no longer banning important MJ hoax topics.  TIAI has increased awareness of these same important topics.  And TMZ has gone a step further in the Murray investigation report; TMZ now says that it has actually been completed—instead of saying it will be completed in a week (like they said last fall).

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1-11. The Lynyrd Skynyrd Example

Although the majority of comments about TIAI have been very positive, yet there have been several complaints and objections that need to be addressed.  But before getting into any further details, let me tell a short story.  Whether it is true or not isn’t important—the point is still the same; nevertheless, it was told to me as a true story.

The Lynyrd Skynyrd band was eating in a restaurant one day, when someone put money in the jukebox and picked “Sweet Home Alabama”.  Then the band chimed in, and started singing along.  Soon the man who paid for the song on the jukebox asked them to stop singing, because this was his favourite song—and he wanted to hear the real band singing it, not them!  The band kindly stopped singing; but when they were leaving, they asked the waitress (who knew that they were Lynyrd Skynryd) to let the jukebox man know who they really were—once they were gone.

I think that the point to the story is obvious.  Some hoax believers don’t know MJ quite as well as they might think.  In fact, if MJ were here personally on these forums, some of the MJ “fans” would reject what he said and even say unkind things to him—and not even realize that it was him!

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1-12. MJ Was a Jehovah’s Witness

A very common complaint about TIAI, was that it’s too religious—and/or that it’s just someone using MJ and the hoax to push his own personal religion on MJ hoax believers.  With “Sweet Home Alabama” ringing in our ears: let us examine both of these complaints.

First of all, only 5 of the 49 redirects were Bible verses—that is only 10%.  And when I asked for people to “make that change”, and start with the “Man in the Mirror”, I did not even mention any specifics; I left it up to your own person convictions.  So how could that be me promoting my own personal beliefs?  

Furthermore, I did not promote any specific religious organization.  I am not personally a Jehovah’s Witness, and I am not trying to promote the Jehovah’s Witness organization (WatchTower) and/or the entire Jehovah’s Witness belief system.  Nevertheless, I do believe some of the Witnesses doctrines.  And many of you know already, MJ was JW an official member until 1987 {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.  Frequently, he would go door to door—even while touring.  Sometimes he would wear a disguise, but not always.  With no disguise, people would often ask him if anyone ever told him that he looked like MJ—and he would say “Yes, I hear that a lot!”

At least here in the United States, Witnesses often “witness” more than any other religion—when religious people knock on your door, it is probably the Jehovah’s Witnesses.  So MJ was very religious!  In fact, look at what he put on the Thriller video: “Jackson, who at the time was a Jehovah’s Witness, added a disclaimer to the start of the video, saying: ‘Due to my strong personal convictions, I wish to stress that this film in no way endorses a belief in the occult.’” {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login; You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}

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1-13. MJ’s Religious Beliefs After 1987

What about when he disassociated himself in 1987, was that because he didn’t want to be religious anymore?  No, according to LaToya, it was more about how the WatchTower leaders treated him and especially his sister (see Growing Up in the Jackson Family, by LaToya Jackson
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Many of MJ’s songs have a religious message, songs both before and after 1987, including “Man in the Mirror” (which actually first came out in late 1987).  So just because he left the WatchTower organization, doesn’t mean he stopped being religious.

In fact, he didn’t celebrate his first Christmas until six years after leaving the Witnesses {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}; and even then, he had mixed feelings about it (the Witnesses don’t believe in celebrating Christmas).  Obviously, then, MJ did not immediately abandon all Jehovah’s Witnesses beliefs when he resigned.

Almost twenty years after leaving the WatchTower, Michael spoke very highly of his religious upbringing (which was as a Jehovah’s Witness).  “Caring, and reading the Bible; learning about God, Jesus, love.  Jesus said bring on the children; imitate the children, you know, be like little children.  And to take care of others—take care of old people.  And we were raised [as Jehovah’s Witnesses] with those values; those are very important values.  And my family and I; we were raised with those values, and they continue, strong in us today.” {2005 Geraldo interview, start at 3:43 You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}

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1-14. J.W. Influence Even After the MJ “Death”

This does not mean that Michael still holds all of the same beliefs that he had in earlier years.  But on the other hand, he does still have some of those beliefs.

The MJ will, signed seven years before the memorial, states: “If any of my children are minors at the time of my death, I nominate my mother, KATHERINE JACKSON as guardian of the persons and estates of such minor children.” {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.  As you probably know, Katherine is one of the very few family members who is still a member of the Jehovah’s Witnesses.

TMZ, who has inside information about the Jacksons, said “Multiple sources in the Jackson family tell us even if Katherine Jackson gets custody of Michael Jackson's kids, Michael's big sister Rebbie Jackson will raise the children.”  {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.  Rebbie is the only other immediate family member, who is still a Jehovah’s Witness.  And surely you have all seen the picture of the children attending the Jehovah’s Witness Kingdom Hall.  {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login; You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}

The private memorial on July 7 has been referred to as a “Jehovah’s Witness Ceremony” (with Jehovah’s Witness family friend, Wendell Hawkins, addressing the guests).  However, it was not an official Witness ceremony.
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If MJ were really dead, we might think that these things were done without his knowledge or approval; since he is alive and directing behind the scenes (Liberian Girl), we know that MJ himself is still at least somewhat favourable towards the beliefs of the Jehovah’s Witnesses.

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1-15. Some of the J.W. Beliefs

Well then, since Michael Jackson still holds some of the Witness beliefs: is it possible that some of these beliefs are found in This Is It and/or This Is Also It?  Yes, it’s not only a possibility, it’s an actual reality.

Jehovah’s Witnesses are concerned about the environment, including specifically
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Last but not least: Jehovah’s Witnesses believe that we are living in the last days—the end of the world.  Some even believe in the specific year 2012, though not all; but they do all believe in an end-time apocalypse and Armageddon scenario.  {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login;
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1-16. The New World Order?

This subject generated responses from one extreme, that the New World Order (NWO) doesn’t even exist—and in fact can’t possibly exist—all the way to the other extreme of: “We’ve known about the NWO for decades, so TIAI was just a waste of time.”  Well guess what: both of these two extreme complaints can’t possibly be true!  And in fact, neither of the complaints are valid.

Even if all hoax believers already understood the NWO/conspiracy aspects (and many did not, before TIAI): still, the redirects and explanations of them (TIAI Revealed) are not just for hoax investigators now—they are also for the MJ fan stampede, which will surely hit the hoax web pages once the MJ return occurs.  Furthermore, there has been a major awakening on these subjects since the start of TIAI—not only on the hoax forums, but also on YouTube and other websites.  The MJalive999 video on TIAI part 1 now has more than 16,000 views! {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}

For those who thought that the NWO doesn’t even exist (because if it did, they would control the internet—and we wouldn’t be able to find any information about them): the NWO is very powerful, but not all powerful.  There are still many good people in powerful positions in this world; in fact, there are some good people in the secret societies (although in the lower levels, where they don’t really understand the agenda of the upper levels).

None questioning the existence of the NWO bothered to step up to the plate, and explain why there has never been any video of an airplane flying into the Pentagon.  If this doesn’t convince you of major conspiracy in our own government, then nothing will.  And if you are convinced of this, then you can be certain that the NWO is very real and very powerful (USA being the most powerful government on earth); and in fact George Bush Sr. is the one who announced the “New World Order” (see again the EndGame trailer in TIAI Revealed, Part 3).  Neither did any NWO skeptic bother to explain why JFK Jr’s fuel selector was shut off, during his plane crash.

Do MJ and Jehovah’s Witnesses believe in conspiracies and the NWO, etc?  Yes, they do!  In fact, MJ specifically put the JFK conspiracy in his 1995 “Tabloid Junkie” song (which is actually about lies in all the media—not just tabloid media): “JFK exposed the CIA.  Truth be told the grassy knoll” {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login; You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.  You see, MJ was showing that JFK was killed for exposing conspiracies in our own government (CIA).  And the “truth” about JFK is the “grassy knoll”, which is the conspiracy version of the killing—not the government’s “lone gunman” theory {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.

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The banned version of the video is about prison {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}—and who runs prisons: the media, or the government?  The other version has MJ singing “you can never kill me” {at 1:05, You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}; and this is while he’s standing beside the NWO all-seeing eye, that is also on the back of the USA one dollar bill (which says Novus Ordo Seclorum under the eye, and is Latin for New World Order {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}).

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1-17. The End of the (New) World (Order)?

As we already saw above, Jehovah’s Witnesses do believe that the end of the world is near.  Different people have different ideas about what will take place at the “end of the world”; but many Christians and even other religions believe that something major is very near.

MJ himself was very clear about the 4 years; and even if it was only the environment (and he never said that the 4 years is only about the environment): it would still be the end of the world, if the damage to the environment becomes irreversible.

Also, the “2012” movie came from Sony—just like “This Is It”; and Tommy Mottola is no longer with Sony {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.  The “2012” movie came out right after “This Is It”, and the “Jackson” and many other MJ parallels in “2012” are not just coincidence.  Therefore, MJ does believe that the end of the world is near.

The original “2012” trailer had a message at the end, recommending people take it seriously and not just fiction: “Find Out the Truth  Google Search: 2012” {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.  Currently, if you type a “2” into the Google search window (or YouTube), the very first suggestion is “2012” (and about three more suggestions below have “2012” in them).  This means that a lot of people are searching for truth about the end of the world.

Yes, there are scientists who say, “Don’t worry about the end of the world”.  But there are also well-known sources who say that it’s a realistic possibility.  For one, the History Channel takes 2012 seriously; it shows multiple prophecies and factors pointing to the end of the world in our time—some of which even point specifically to 2012 {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.

Many people are refusing to believe in the end of the world, merely because they don’t want to believe it—not because it isn’t true (or a lack of evidence).  But who are the bigger fools: the ones who believe and are ready, yet it does not come—or the ones who don’t believe and are not ready, and then it does come??

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1-18. The End of This TIAI Update

If you don’t want to believe in the end of the world, and/or you don’t want to be religious: that is your right; Michael respects your right, and God respects your right.  However, just because you have a right to be non-religious, does not mean that Michael is not very religious.

Do not dismiss TIAI, under the claim that it is too religious, merely because you yourself are not religious.  If you can document that what I have presented is not what MJ believes, then please do so; but if not, then don’t say that TIAI isn’t Michael’s message (unless of course you’d rather listen to “Sweet Home Alabama” on the jukebox).

And now to wrap up this long update, with a few closing comments.  There has been a suggestion that my motive for TIAI is money; at some point I will supposedly ask MJ fans for money, maybe even asking people to pay for Michael to come back.  This idea is absolutely out of touch with reality.  There are a lot of scams out there, which you do need to be careful about.  But the minute TIAI starts asking for money, you will be welcome to dismiss TIAI and everything about it.  It’s all for L.O.V.E., not money!

Someone else suggested that the redirects merely continued until I got bored, then they ended.  This in spite of the fact that they clearly ended on a planned date, 12-21 (three years from 12-21-2012).  It was also on the 21st of the month (7+7+7 = 21), and TIAI Revealed was the 49th redirect (7x7 = 49).  Furthermore, the whole thing was well organized into 9 parts (9-9-09); the first 2 parts were introductory, and then 7 main parts about the redirects.  Does this sound like it was a random ending, when I got bored?  Or was it all planned?

Several have said things such as this: “He did not give any concrete evidence of how he knows that Michael is alive besides the clues from TII which we had already discussed about and were aware of.”  I can only say to people like this, please read the 9 parts again; and this time, pay more attention when you are reading.  I gave abundant evidence that I have repeatedly known things about the hoax in advance (things that others did not know); and I also repeatedly stated that MJ is alive.  If these things don’t qualify as “concrete evidence”—then what would?  Anything???

Many people on the internet have done a good job of picking up the TIAI message, and running with it—for which I am thankful.  For your information, though, the other internet sites are not run by You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login; the only other site I operate is You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login.

Please encourage other hoaxers to read this update, especially the ones who have doubted or even opposed TIAI.  Because once the opposition to MJ’s message has gone away, then MJ will be ready to “Return”!

Finally, several times I have been accused of manipulation.  As with most words, manipulation can have more than one meaning; but it has been used in a negative sense.  So with a negative meaning, we find definitions like this: “to control or play upon by artful, unfair, or insidious means especially to one’s own advantage
{You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.  Can the complainers bring any evidence whatsoever that I’ve been “unfair”, “insidious”, and/or done anything to my “own advantage”???

What I have done, is worked hard to promote truth about MJ: “the truth will prevail”!  I’m only trying to help spread the truth, Michael’s message, and help people be ready for the end of the world—nothing more, and nothing less.  If that is a crime, then I will be the first one to eagerly plead guilty.

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Recruiting Soldiers for Michael’s Army of L.O.V.E.

Please post at least your support for Michael’s Army of L.O.V.E.  And additionally, entirely voluntarily, you can mention specifics that you are willing to do: starting with the “Man in the Mirror”, make that “change”; maybe a New Year’s resolution.  And then go beyond yourself, and reach out to others, joining together in helping to “Heal the World”.  This is Michael’s message; This Is It.

Even if you still believe that MJ is dead (or alive, but will never come back): the basic message is still just as important.  So please don’t let doubt, as to whether MJ is still alive, stop you from helping to “heal the world”.

PLEASE NOTE: This is not a phishing scam; so please do not post your personal information.  We want a quantity of people to show their support; but we are not asking for name, address, phone number, or other private info.  Beware of anyone trying to get you to give out your personal information!

Additionally: please keep this thread only for Army Of L.O.V.E. support and discussion.  If you want to talk about things in the TIAI Revealed threads,
please do that under one of the 9 parts.

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