Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators

Hoax Investigation => General Hoax Investigation => Contradictions and all stuff that doesn't add up => Topic started by: 2good2btrue on March 24, 2012, 07:22:31 AM

Title: Raffles van Exel Revealed to be Whitney Houston’s Drug Dealer & the coverup.
Post by: 2good2btrue on March 24, 2012, 07:22:31 AM
HSK Exclusive – A man has come forward exclusively to HSK claiming he intends to file an affidavit with the  Beverly Hills and Los Angeles police departments. In the affidavit  this very reliable source asserts that the man known as Raffles van Exel (not his real name) was in fact the drug supplier for both Whitney Houston leading up to her death. HSK previously reported that the surname van Exel was taken from his stepfather.

The man coming forward resides outside of the United States and claims he has spoken to a detectives before, but at the time, his claims were “swept under the rug”. With the medical examiner and toxicology reports regarding the sudden death of Whitney Houston, being release yesterday people were left with more questions than answers.

The reports claim Whitney was using cocaine right up until moments before her death. The cause of death is listed as accidental drowning, which may or may not have been preceded by a heart attack due to corrosive artery buildup from chronic drug abuse. Other drugs found in her system at the time of death include: Xanax, Benadryl, muscle relaxer and marijuana.

He is what the source revealed to me:
“Raffles always enters the country illegally. The first time he was deported was 13 years ago after being arrested in Chicago for shoplifting. Raffles has been deported at least 6 times now.

Raffles comes into your life when your down. He latched onto Michael during the molestation trial. He got Whitney during her depression.

Raffles served no purpose except being the drug supplier in these celebrity camps which he infiltrated with lies. Pat and Gary new what Raffles’ role was, yet they still allowed him to remove all evidence from the room before paramedics and police arrived.
Pat and Gary also new that Raffles had taken and sold the photos (gurney and tub) to the tabloids well before they invited him to fly on Tyler Perry’s private jet as Whitney’s body was flown home.”


It’s been revealed via Forbes that the gurney photo, supposedly of Whitney Houston’s body being removed from the Beverly Hilton hotel was in fact actually Bobbi Kristina being taken to the hospital following a nervous breakdown. That photo was taken and sold by Raffles. Raffles is also the person who took and sold the photo of the tub where Whitney had died.

Raffles has also been fingered by the family of Jazz great George Benson after allegedly stealing $25,000 is cash from the Benson home. Raffles has been sued before as Raffles Benson, a name he assumed to commit fraud against unsuspecting victims, as evidenced in the exclusive video posted below. The Benson family previously issued him a order to “cease and desist” from using the Benson name.

Here is some of what another source revealed:
“Raffles was on SBS6 over here in Holland, he told the reporter that he was the “only” person authorized to clean all the drugs and paraphernalia out of the room.

I met Raffles through a friend, his stories were always so grandiose most people didn’t believe him. Then he would have pictures of himself with all these big American celebrities. So people figured some of what he said must be true.

A Dutch singer named Connie was conned by Raffles several years ago after Raffles told her he arranged for her to sing at the birthday party for then president G.W. Bush.  It never happened.”

With new evidence also exclusively received by HSK, we expect investigating departments to treat this the same as they do doctor prescribed pharmaceuticals. If still in the USA, Raffles is being sought after by the Immigration and Customs Enforcement department (ICE).

Was Raffles van Exel committing a crime by removing evidence from the room where Whitney lay dead? Of course he did. Don’t believe me.. Ask Dr, Conrad Murray.


http://diaryofahollywoodstreetking.com/raffles-van-exel-revealed-to-be-whitney-houstons-drug-dealer/
Title: Re: Raffles van Exel Revealed to be Whitney Houston’s Drug Dealer & the coverup.
Post by: gwynned on March 24, 2012, 10:19:47 AM
Raffles, again.  Here's something I wrote on a different thread in connection to Whitney's death.  I find in very odd that a gossip columnist would suddenly employed by Forbes in February of this year and he 'breaks the story' about who took the Whitney photo?  Forbes is a serious financial magazine and has not historically traded in gossip.

And how is it that we, who have followed this farce now for over 1000 days  /scream/ have NEVER even heard of Raffles?

Kudos to whoever came up with that name.  Raffles van Exel.  And how did he manage an interview with Travis Payne and Louis Farakhan? When is the general public going to start questioning these ridiculous stories?

http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/smf2.0/index.php?topic=22175.msg395374#msg395374

Why is FORBES covering the Whitney death? The bio on the author is interesting:

http://blogs.forbes.com/people/rogerfriedman/

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About Me

I created and wrote the Fox411 column on Foxnews.com for ten years, from 1999 to 2009, where I broke stories about Michael Jackson and many other celebrities including Rosie O’Donnell, Mariah Carey, Madonna, Anna Nicole Smith, Britney Spears, among others. My long history in celebrity journalism includes writing the “Intelligencer” column at New York magazine, where I was considered the “expert” on OJ Simpson, and editing the now legendary Fame magazine, where I wrote cover stories on Paul McCartney, Whitney Houston, Paloma Picasso, Carly Simon, and dozens of other stars. My articles have appeared in Vogue, The New York Times, The New York Daily News, Redbook, US Weekly, Premiere, the Washington Post, and many other publications.
I also find his stats interesting.

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My Stats
Followers: 42
Contributor Since: February 2012
Title: Re: Raffles van Exel Revealed to be Whitney Houston’s Drug Dealer & the coverup.
Post by: suspicious mind on March 24, 2012, 10:57:17 AM
didn't this dude also do an interview with frank delio shortly after june 2009?
Title: Re: Raffles van Exel Revealed to be Whitney Houston’s Drug Dealer & the coverup.
Post by: paula-c on March 24, 2012, 11:07:40 AM
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Ask Dr, Conrad......
:!: :?:
Title: Re: Raffles van Exel Revealed to be Whitney Houston’s Drug Dealer & the coverup.
Post by: skyways on March 24, 2012, 11:23:07 AM
Interesting....
May be he is FBI cover ups who playing grug dillie -  that wl explain Whys on his easy path to many and even Most privacy-gated celebs.    Is he was also ups wth Lady D  and Paul?
Title: Re: Raffles van Exel Revealed to be Whitney Houston’s Drug Dealer & the coverup.
Post by: Grace on March 24, 2012, 02:14:31 PM
Sidenote:
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to: Arthur J. Raffles is a character created in the 1890s by E. W. Hornung (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernest_William_Hornung), a brother-in-law to Sir Arthur Conan Doyle (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Conan_Doyle), the creator of Sherlock Holmes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sherlock_Holmes). Raffles is, in many ways, a deliberate inversion of Holmes — he is a "gentleman thief (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gentleman_thief),"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A._J._Raffles (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A._J._Raffles)

Life's a miracle.

Title: Re: Raffles van Exel Revealed to be Whitney Houston’s Drug Dealer & the coverup.
Post by: gwynned on March 24, 2012, 02:26:27 PM
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Sidenote:
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to: Arthur J. Raffles is a character created in the 1890s by E. W. Hornung (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernest_William_Hornung), a brother-in-law to Sir Arthur Conan Doyle (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Conan_Doyle), the creator of Sherlock Holmes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sherlock_Holmes). Raffles is, in many ways, a deliberate inversion of Holmes — he is a "gentleman thief (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gentleman_thief),"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A._J._Raffles (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A._J._Raffles)

Life's a miracle.



You mean his appearance marks the prophesied appearance of the Anti-Michael?  ;)
Title: Re: Raffles van Exel Revealed to be Whitney Houston’s Drug Dealer & the coverup.
Post by: Tink on March 24, 2012, 03:52:16 PM
I would think if there's any link, that it would be investigated...let the police and FBI do their work.
Something is interesting though...hm.... albino/
Title: Re: Raffles van Exel Revealed to be Whitney Houston’s Drug Dealer & the coverup.
Post by: 2good2btrue on March 25, 2012, 12:20:35 AM

Whitney Houston Cocaine Death: Coroner's Report and Family Story Don't Match

Things are not adding up in the Whitney Houston death.

The LA County coroner says  Houston died from accidental drowning. They also found cocaine in her system and five other drugs. She also had coronary artery disease. She had “60 percent narrowing of the artery, suggesting a cardiac event,” said spokesperson Craig Harvey. Even if you haven’t watched “CSI” you can surmise that she did a hit of coke, had a heart attack and drowned in her bathtub on February 11th.

One source who was on the scene tells me that by the time 911 was called and security became involved, CPR wasn’t possible. “They tried it, but it seemed like she’d been dead for a while, longer than they say.”

There’s a weird jumble of information that comes along. Her sister in law, Pat Houston, told Oprah that it wasn’t drugs that killed Whitney. Remember when Pat said: “She was chasing a dream.” But now we know that dream was a nightmare that included coke, marijuana, Flexeril, and Xanax.

There’s the episode on Tuesday night, February 8th, when Whitney got into some kind of verbal fight with a contestant from “X Factor” in a nightclub. She emerged from the club, looking disheveled, with Pat Houston and her pal, Raffles van Exel. A picture of all three ran on TMZ on Wednesday, February 9th. Pat and Raffles each look upset. Pat admitted to Oprah that when she came out of the club, she was mad. What she didn’t explain: How the heck did Whitney Houston, a superstar, find herself in such a situation?

Business wise, this all becomes particularly sensitive regarding Whitney’s estate. Pat Houston went to court and had herself named executor, replacing the assigned executor. The estate is currently taking in a lot of money from sales of Houston’s records–far more than before Whitney died. Her albums are all over the charts. Insolvent in life, Whitney Houston is suddenly getting solid in death. But the people around her aren’t owning up to her actual lifestyle.

Oprah: Was drugs an issue for her before her death?

Pat Houston: I don’t think drugs were an issue for her before her death…High, absolutely not. Leading up [to her death]? I would say no.

Craig Harvey: The toxicology report suggests chronic [cocaine] use.


Coroner spokesperson Craig Harvey said on Thursday night that Whitney’s use of cocaine was “acute”, and that “cocaine was used just prior to her collapse.” Harvey said: “We know when she slipped under the water she was still alive.” But look at Pat Houston’s quote–and she was her manager, confidante, and sister-in-law.

Pat Houston to Oprah: “Drinking? She may have. She was loud sometimes, very much so.”

Craig Harvey said yesterday: “I don’t think there was anything really specific to alcohol found in the toxicology.”

There goes Pat Houston’s theory, right out the window.

Craig Harvey on when Whitney did the coke: “Probably some time in the immediate of her going into the bathtub, shower area and collapsing.”

But there was no cocaine found in the hotel room when police arrived. So it had to have been removed before the police arrived.

Of note: drugs and Whitney’s brothers are no strangers. Whitney’s brother, Pat’s husband, Gary Houston aka Gary Garland, was arrested in Shelby, North Carolina on March 7, 1996 for possession of crack cocaine. According to wire reports, he was found driving in a noted drug neighborhood with five rocks of crack cocaine and a crack pipe. He was charged with drug possession and resisting arrest. http://tinyurl.com/88mvhpr.

Whitney’s other brother, Michael, was arrested in August 2001, charged with possessing cocaine, marijuana, drug paraphernalia and being under the influence of drugs by police in Ft. Lee, New Jersey. It was one month before Whitney’s startlingly thin appearance at Michael Jackson’s Madison Square Garden show. http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,622428,00.html

There’s more: I told you yesterday that Raffles van Exel has been fingered by someone at the scene as the probable photographer of pictures sold to TMZ– of Whitney’s bathtub and food tray. I told you that only Pat and Gary Houston, and van Exel, had access to Whitney’s room at that point. Everyone involved in the story claimed that Whitney was found in her bathtub by her assistant, Mary Jones. But when I ran into Raffles van Exel in the lobby of the Beverly Hilton, he was bawling his eyes out, telling everyone who’d listen, “I found Whitney.”  He then proceeded to bring an entourage into Clive Davis’s party and attempted to sit at Whitney’s table.

Van Exel was on the fourth floor when Bobbi Kristina was taken to the hospital. A picture was sold to TMZ of a body wrapped in a white sheet, on a gurney, with the claim that it was Whitney Houston. I told you yesterday that it was not Whitney, but Bobbi Kristina. My source says van Exel took the picture, that he was in the hallway of the fourth floor when Bobbi Kristina was taken out. That would have been about 90 minutes to two hours into the Clive Davis party.

What are we missing here? Someone has some explaining to do, that’s for sure. Whitney had been fine on the movie “Sparkle” after doing intensive rehab with Warren Boyd. She had three months in between the wrap up of filming “Sparkle” and her death. Obviously, someone was getting her coke. Who was it? And how could Pat Houston not have been aware, nor did she tell Oprah. that Whitney was a “chronic” coke user–something that could not have been hidden in their inner circle.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/rogerfriedman/2012/03/23/whitney-houston-cocaine-death-coroners-report-and-family-story-dont-match/
Title: Re: Raffles van Exel Revealed to be Whitney Houston’s Drug Dealer & the coverup.
Post by: 2good2btrue on March 25, 2012, 12:36:42 AM
This dude is one shady character......these are some of the interviews he has done since MJ's hoax...........I have a bad feeling about him....LETS SEE HOW THE FBI handle this situation when they are told that this guy tampered with evidence.....

Does anyone know whether he was with Michael in the days leading up to his fake death???


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1geVE2fM5pQ&feature=channel

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXsDSgJsrbA
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7NqrDLdN0A&feature=related
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Title: Re: Raffles van Exel Revealed to be Whitney Houston’s Drug Dealer & the coverup.
Post by: Tink on March 25, 2012, 06:31:50 AM
Someone believes the Raffles doing the interviews on Youtube is Michael - and called him on it!
Title: Re: Raffles van Exel Revealed to be Whitney Houston’s Drug Dealer & the coverup.
Post by: 2good2btrue on March 25, 2012, 06:52:23 AM
 here are some videos of Raffles from 2003.......this is where Raffles shares his memories of Michael comes from.If you notice in these 3 videos .......his face is blurry.......Part 9..at 2.06sec....[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28xj_PcNqaA[/youtube]........
.Part10. at .01sec...[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54HR-p5pC_4[/youtube].........

Part 11..................[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbRWog8jUFs[/youtube]...........he appears at the 4.06 mark here carrying the cake,and this is at Neverland..............This from the documentary that Marc Schaffel put out in 2010...........There are 11 parts..........So my question is.........How did this guy become of all this?Surely he would have had to been screened?There has to be more than meets the eye here...........this was from 2003..They are titled Michael Jackson year 2003........

Michael and him clearly look like they know each other,and how on earth would he have got clearance to be part of this without being well screened?............Now fast forward to 2009..he is everywhere.......but very obscure when he interviews Frank and Travis,and of course all the other people you see he interviews.........and then of course there is the interview with Reverend Farrakhan in 2010. Now lets move forward to 2012, and we clearly see him at the BHH, and then he flies in the plane to for  Whitney's funeral.So maybe all is not what it seems with this character Raffles.In my mind Genius Michael wouldn't let this guy get that close without doing some research.Now isn't it also a coincidence that Ben Evenstaad is also seen in Michaels company in 2003?

We really need to investigate this man further...If the DEA haven't already.

WHO IS THE GUY??? He only opened a youtube account 3 days after MJ's death...
Title: Re: WATCH ANDY KAUFMAN: MAN ON THE MOON!
Post by: Tink on March 25, 2012, 01:59:03 PM
Seriously - watch Andy Kaufman's Man on the Moon movie!

He could've pulled an Andy Kaufman on us ALL.

Possibly his cousin & he switching off, playing Raffles, because of the name having meaning from the past? I just watched the interviews this morning, and I see what tipped things off to an observer:

THE LACK of body language! It's been said that a woman can always spot Michael. It's like he pulled all that aura down, and bottled it. When I saw him say, "7 fans are hospitalized," and the guy he's interviewing almost laugh, it seemed oddly out of place.

Go watch Raffles interviews in sequence now, and what do you think? Is he the Man on the Moon?

Title: Re: Raffles van Exel Revealed to be Whitney Houston’s Drug Dealer & the coverup.
Post by: MJonmind on March 26, 2012, 04:42:29 AM
2good2btrue, I totally notice that in the many places we see him, his face is blurry. But the strange thing is that the faces around him are clear.  It's like when they don't want children's faces to be seen, they are blurred out, or innocent adults next to criminal are blurred to protect their reputation.  So why would only Raffles' face be blurred way back then, when no one else's is?


See now, this makes me ask the question again to any that know how to manipulate video. Tink?  Can people or faces, and voices be inserted seamlessly into video?  As seamlessly as Raffles in these videos?  Could Raffles have been inserted into the videos, or his face also with voice exchanging someone else's?


I still wonder about the video of MJ getting out of the SUV (insert video while news covers MJ's 'death'), and what looks like Conrad Murray slowly walking past and backing up, looking very weird. It would be the ONLY shot we'd have of MJ and Murray in the same picture.   I think MJ's having fun torturing us.  mj_bad/ crash/ smiley_spider /scream/
Title: Re: Raffles van Exel Revealed to be Whitney Houston’s Drug Dealer & the coverup.
Post by: Tink on March 27, 2012, 03:08:45 AM
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2good2btrue, I totally notice that in the many places we see him, his face is blurry. But the strange thing is that the faces around him are clear.  It's like when they don't want children's faces to be seen, they are blurred out, or innocent adults next to criminal are blurred to protect their reputation.  So why would only Raffles' face be blurred way back then, when no one else's is?


See now, this makes me ask the question again to any that know how to manipulate video. Tink?  Can people or faces, and voices be inserted seamlessly into video?  As seamlessly as Raffles in these videos?  Could Raffles have been inserted into the videos, or his face also with voice exchanging someone else's?


I still wonder about the video of MJ getting out of the SUV (insert video while news covers MJ's 'death'), and what looks like Conrad Murray slowly walking past and backing up, looking very weird. It would be the ONLY shot we'd have of MJ and Murray in the same picture.   I think MJ's having fun torturing us.  mj_bad/ crash/ smiley_spider /scream/

YES - it's done all the time, MJonmind! Look at the Matrix, anything with a green screen! Star Wars, Star Trek, any SFX movies!

We can now do it to ANY video, as long as we have the coordinates for the face, and we can then overlay the other person's face right on OVER! Look at Lord of the Rings, with GOLLUM!

See, what made me start thinking it was Michael myself? The CRUTCHES! Then, handling Joe, roflmao! Joe wasn't concerned at all, and it seemed awfully prankish to me!

I really, really think we've been had - in a major way. Raffles - Sir Conan Doyle, come one!

It's been said, that to disguise oneself as slightly unsavory character, to get the job done.
Perhaps this is what it's taking.

As for the "rock" video of Raffles, I saw that right leg start to do a Michael move, then HALT! I was like, oh, man, you've been
caught!

The interview with Dileo? The hair wasn't typical Raffles - it was over the top!

So, who knows. I'd call it a lead on Michael's trail.

BTW - If you look at the Enquirer, which had the cover of Whitney on it, right? WHO was interviewed inside, that attended the funeral? Whitney's EXsister-in-law! I'd think SHE is where to start, instead of framing someone else. For after all, isn't it much easier to hide a camera phone in a purse, pretend you're hiding a hanky in it, as you pull it up a hair, while taking aim while looking straight down? A dude can't pull that one off, uh-uh.

That's my best suggestion.
Title: Re: Raffles van Exel Revealed to be Whitney Houston’s Drug Dealer & the coverup.
Post by: friendlikeme81 on March 27, 2012, 04:31:09 AM
Thank you guys for your invitation to do some side to side comparison.
I think the result is pretty convincing, at least in my eyes.
 
Raffles is Michael, theres no doubt for me.  moonwalk_/
Title: Re: Raffles van Exel Revealed to be Whitney Houston’s Drug Dealer & the coverup.
Post by: ~Souza~ on March 27, 2012, 02:35:00 PM
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Thank you guys for your invitation to do some side to side comparison.
I think the result is pretty convincing, at least in my eyes.
 
Raffles is Michael, theres no doubt for me.  moonwalk_/

Raffles is 100% Dutch, so unless Michael learned to speak Dutch without accent somewhere, he really can't be Raffles...
Title: Re: Raffles van Exel Revealed to be Whitney Houston’s Drug Dealer & the coverup.
Post by: Tink on March 27, 2012, 02:37:39 PM
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Thank you guys for your invitation to do some side to side comparison.
I think the result is pretty convincing, at least in my eyes.
 
Raffles is Michael, theres no doubt for me.  moonwalk_/


I'll ask people to be a bit quiet, when not on here. I'd rather be thought a little whacky, than blow a cover.
There's a good reason he's doing this.
Title: Re: Raffles van Exel Revealed to be Whitney Houston’s Drug Dealer & the coverup.
Post by: ~Souza~ on March 27, 2012, 02:40:41 PM
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Thank you guys for your invitation to do some side to side comparison.
I think the result is pretty convincing, at least in my eyes.
 
Raffles is Michael, theres no doubt for me.  moonwalk_/


I'll ask people to be a bit quiet, when not on here. I'd rather be thought a little whacky, than blow a cover.
There's a good reason he's doing this.

Maybe you missed my reply: Raffles is DUTCH. He's not Michael.
Title: Re: Raffles van Exel Revealed to be Whitney Houston’s Drug Dealer & the coverup.
Post by: paula-c on March 29, 2012, 06:42:12 PM
Video: Whitney cussed out Raffles van Exel: “STOP! STOP! You’re F*kin’ Trash! Stay away from me!”


http://www.kaltura.com/index.php/kwidget/wid/1_2e6pf47u/
Title: Re: Raffles van Exel Revealed to be Whitney Houston’s Drug Dealer & the coverup.
Post by: paula-c on March 29, 2012, 07:07:37 PM
I do not know who is this man Jacky Jasper, i found a blog and write a lot of Raffles Van Exel and its relationship with some artists, but I drew the attention this is the first time that I read something as well and don't know if there is some truth in what he says.

Who Is Dr. Tohme and What’s his Connection to Raffles van Exel?
by Jacky Jasper



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HSK Exclusive - Let me introduce you to a man I first learned about a few years back, when the Jackson estate suspected he was stealing millions from the King of Pop.

His name is Dr. Tohme Tohme, and he may be one of the first known top Hollywood con men. So, it’s not surprising that Dr. Tohme Tohme is said to have recently opened his home to fellow conman Raffles Van Exel, giving him a place to stay. Now, I wonder if Raffles could have been a protege of Dr. Tohme’s.

Here’s what my Beverly Hills insider had to say about the doctor:

“Dr. Tohme was once a bellhop at the Bel Air Hotel. 35 years later, he appears with several titles, one being a financial wizard. Dr. Tohme is a crook, he was once selling diplomatic Senegal passports for $250K.”

Hollywood is full of slick fast-talking tricksters. Don’t believe me.. Ask Millionaire Matchmaker Patti Stanger.




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http://diaryofahollywoodstreetking.com/who-is-dr-thome-raffles-van-exel-connection/
Title: Re: Raffles van Exel Revealed to be Whitney Houston’s Drug Dealer & the coverup.
Post by: ~Souza~ on March 29, 2012, 07:47:51 PM
Something is up with that Raffles van Exel. My mother told me they talked about him in our Dutch gossip program, and a Dutch celeb told them he went to school with him (also said his real name, but she couldn't remember) and something about that his mother got him to another school because of this Raffles, and that he was dangerous.

I think it's typical that he is around celebs that are not doing well, or at least appear not to do well. Maybe he's part of some bigger clan of enablers/handlers or whatever shitheads that try to destroy people.

I'll see if I can find that video tomorrow, haven't seen it myself yet, just saying what my mother told me.
Title: Re: Raffles van Exel Revealed to be Whitney Houston’s Drug Dealer & the coverup.
Post by: Grace on March 29, 2012, 11:02:20 PM
The following incorporates the question "if it is true".

I wonder why RvE is/was using pseudos (aka Raffles Benson aka Raffles Dawson) and why he tried to illegally enter the U.S. - if these rumours turn out to be true - who has the sources for his so-said crime records?
I wonder where RvE went to school, where he grew up in the Netherlands and what he did to earn money before he went to the U.S..
I wonder why we hear about him only by dedicated sources, copying and pasting the exact texts thrown into the web tank.
I wonder why he (or who else) made an employee of a luxury car rental his vice president - I mean this is such an obvious link that it cannot be true, can it?
I wonder where he has his tentacles right now.

I wonder how he dared playing this card:
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A Dutch singer named Connie was conned by Raffles several years ago after Raffles told her he arranged for her to sing at the birthday party for then president G.W. Bush.  It never happened.

Is RvE really in Panama right now - heading to Suriname?
Both have extradition treaties with the U.S. He should have better counsels.

I wonder where the puppet master for this one is located - via Amsterdam - former Soviet Union / Turkey / Afghanistan - ? ? ? or was it Colombia? and who REALLY is to be put into the spot light given that "news" are finger-pointing on RvE only.


This one is certain: greed and vanity are superimposing traits, will always be noticed and are predictable.
Who ever falls for those two makes himself a perfect corrupt puppet servant.
If these two aspects should play a role in this scenery, a money trail will show up, combined with a lot of dirt.
I guess we should not forget to buckle up - just in case.


Btw, did anybody notice these news?

http://usopenborders.com/2012/03/clinton-latin-american-drug-cartels-links-to-iran-hezbollah-a-concern/
Title: Re: Raffles van Exel Revealed to be Whitney Houston’s Drug Dealer & the coverup.
Post by: 2good2btrue on March 30, 2012, 12:25:45 AM
Can I ask if anyone else has noticed the size of this mans hands and the length of his fingers??

He really reminds me of ET..

He also wears false nails and even they are really long and white..

Look at his mannerisms when he talks......check out his eyes..

This may sound really far fetched, but could he be from outerspace?? A reptilian ??
  :animal0017: :affraid: :affraid:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWfzw5QKAbs

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Police want to quiz Whitney Houston's aide Raffles Van Exel over claims he removed evidence from hotel death room

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2122238/Whitney-Houston-death-Police-want-quiz-Raffles-Van-Exel-claims-removed-evidence.html#ixzz1qZgppoLx

Police want to talk to Whitney Houston's associate Raffles Van Exel after he made claims he cleared the singer's hotel room before police arrived to the death scene.
The Beverly Hills Police Department are said to be keen to question the self-described entertainment consultant.
Last week toxicology results revealed cocaine had been a contributing factor in Whitney's death in her bathtub at the Beverly Hilton hotel. The official cause of death was accidental drowning.
A source told RadarOnline: 'The [Houston] family has been extremely cooperative and they have been told that investigators want to speak to Raffles Van Exel about allegedly removing evidence from Whitney's hotel room.

The cops want to know who provided Whitney with the cocaine, but if someone tampered with the death scene, well, that could be against the law in California.'
Exel made the revelations about clearing Houston's room to the Dutch Telegraph newspaper, saying: 'Someone had to do it'.
However he stopped short of saying exactly what he removed from the suite, an important omission following claims cocaine had been removed from the scene.
Celebuzz revealed he made the confession in an interview with the respected Netherlands newspaper just four days following her death on February 11, where he also said: 'The room had to be emptied.'
According to RadarOnline, investigators have tried to make contact with Exel, but had not had any luck.
The source added: 'Since Van Exel is from Denmark, investigators assume that he may no longer be in the United States, and they very much want to talk to him.'


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2122238/Whitney-Houston-death-Police-want-quiz-Raffles-Van-Exel-claims-removed-evidence.html#ixzz1qZgxEjuk
Title: Re: Raffles van Exel Revealed to be Whitney Houston’s Drug Dealer & the coverup.
Post by: Grace on March 30, 2012, 01:01:23 AM
Just in case somebody would not know that the Netherlands are not the same country as Denmark (and that their people are speaking different languages, too):

(http://hercules.gcsu.edu/%7Ehedmonds/European%20Union/Europe.GIF)


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The source added: 'Since Van Exel is from Denmark

Right. Yeah.
Daily Mail, go get your facts straight before publishing this crap as "journalism".

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-WYkUy1JgF5U/TW0VwnyAnpI/AAAAAAAAAVg/whVPXCQlNZE/s200/garbage%2Bcan%2B2.jpg)

Title: Re: Raffles van Exel Revealed to be Whitney Houston’s Drug Dealer & the coverup.
Post by: 2good2btrue on March 30, 2012, 01:49:03 AM
I know where he is.....he is staying with Tohme Tohme.........wherever that is...

That's where they can find the two con men...

Maybe, this is part of a bigger grand conspiracy....taking down all the enablers and drug mules on a grand scale...one by one, they will be caught and held accountable.

This RvE has alot to answer for....how he became friends with the Jackson family is anyones guess..
Title: Re: Raffles van Exel Revealed to be Whitney Houston’s Drug Dealer & the coverup.
Post by: MJonmind on March 30, 2012, 03:55:54 AM
We could always ask TS if he can tell us anything about Raffles, and he will probably answer the same as when we asked about TT.
"No."

I don't think the fingers look any longer than MJ's, and they have a very familiar look...
Where there's a will, there's a way...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mALkCGVA2BU&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhtq1ObGHy8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWfs2GQQuuc&feature=related


Title: Re: Raffles van Exel Revealed to be Whitney Houston’s Drug Dealer & the coverup.
Post by: paula-c on March 30, 2012, 10:25:57 AM
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Can I ask if anyone else has noticed the size of this mans hands and the length of his fingers??

He really reminds me of ET..

He also wears false nails and even they are really long and white..

Look at his mannerisms when he talks......check out his eyes..

This may sound really far fetched, but could he be from outerspace?? A reptilian ??
  :animal0017: :affraid: :affraid:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWfzw5QKAbs

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Police want to quiz Whitney Houston's aide Raffles Van Exel over claims he removed evidence from hotel death room

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2122238/Whitney-Houston-death-Police-want-quiz-Raffles-Van-Exel-claims-removed-evidence.html#ixzz1qZgppoLx

Police want to talk to Whitney Houston's associate Raffles Van Exel after he made claims he cleared the singer's hotel room before police arrived to the death scene.
The Beverly Hills Police Department are said to be keen to question the self-described entertainment consultant.
Last week toxicology results revealed cocaine had been a contributing factor in Whitney's death in her bathtub at the Beverly Hilton hotel. The official cause of death was accidental drowning.
A source told RadarOnline: 'The [Houston] family has been extremely cooperative and they have been told that investigators want to speak to Raffles Van Exel about allegedly removing evidence from Whitney's hotel room.

The cops want to know who provided Whitney with the cocaine, but if someone tampered with the death scene, well, that could be against the law in California.'
Exel made the revelations about clearing Houston's room to the Dutch Telegraph newspaper, saying: 'Someone had to do it'.
However he stopped short of saying exactly what he removed from the suite, an important omission following claims cocaine had been removed from the scene.
Celebuzz revealed he made the confession in an interview with the respected Netherlands newspaper just four days following her death on February 11, where he also said: 'The room had to be emptied.'
According to RadarOnline, investigators have tried to make contact with Exel, but had not had any luck.
The source added: 'Since Van Exel is from Denmark, investigators assume that he may no longer be in the United States, and they very much want to talk to him.'


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2122238/Whitney-Houston-death-Police-want-quiz-Raffles-Van-Exel-claims-removed-evidence.html#ixzz1qZgxEjuk





Yes, seem false nails  or painted
Title: Re: Raffles van Exel Revealed to be Whitney Houston’s Drug Dealer & the coverup.
Post by: paula-c on March 30, 2012, 11:11:42 AM
Jacky Jasper ‏ @jackyjasper 
Investigate Raffles van Exel in Whitney Houston's Death and Cover Up http://www.change.org/petitions/investigate-raffles-van-exel-in-whitney-houston-s-death-and-cover-up?share_id=CWCtHooBwg&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=twitter

https://twitter.com/#!/jackyjasper



In his twitter account says that the actual name of Raffles van Exel is Raffles Dawson and is already making a request to be investigated.

http://www.change.org/petitions/investigate-raffles-van-exel-in-whitney-houston-s-death-and-cover-up?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=share_petition
Title: Re: Raffles van Exel Revealed to be Whitney Houston’s Drug Dealer & the coverup.
Post by: paula-c on March 30, 2012, 02:22:06 PM
This would not have been mentioned before: :icon_question:

Raffles Van Exel: Hollywood’s #1 Enabler
by Jacky Jasper



HSK Exclusive - The man known as Raffles Van Exel may now have much more than the title of ‘conman’ attached to his name. Know why? Because dude has served as an enabler to a long list of Hollywood celebrities and Tinseltown elite. Don’t believe me.. Ask Bobby Brown or Ray J.

Here’s what a reliable source had to say about the infamous Hollywood swindler:

“Raffles was getting coke for people as far back as OJ Simpson’s girlfriend Christie Parody. Christie used to get her coke from the dope man Charlie – so, OJ told Charlie not to sell Christie anymore coke. That’s when Christie had Raffles pick up the coke from Charlie for her.”

Now, insiders exclusively tell HSK Raffles Van Exel helped to feed Whitney Houston’s drug abuse, which eventually turned fatal. We’re told Raffles once lived with Bobby and Whitney at the Bel Air Hotel. That’s where Raffles reportedly frequently picked up packages of coke (in envelopes, each with a US stamp on them) from the hotel concierge – packages sources say Bobby Brown ordered. Don’t believe me.. Ask the bartender Gus

This tells us all that Raffles didn’t do his dirt alone – leaving Ray J who later filled Bobby Brown’s position. Whitney’s brother Gary and his wife Pat are no strangers to what we’re talking about here either. Know why? Because sources say they too where in on Raffles game – going as far as collecting a cut of the profit he made off photos he sold to the tabloids.

So, why hasn’t this information come to surface before? It’s simple. Because of his close ties to Hollywood circles, Raffles served as the number one informant to entities like TMZ, National Enquirer and Star Magazine. But, what those organization may NOT have known was that their source was a hardened criminal (who has been deported five times)…that is, until now.

I asked my source where Raffles could be hiding, and here’s what I learned:

“He made a call to someone at the Jackson family circle, saying he’s in Cabo and about to board a jet to Panama.

You don’t know what to believe when it comes to Raffles. I know for a fact that he was recently staying at one of Dr Thome’s houses. Dr Thome is the doctor that Michael Jackson was terrified of.

Raffles was picking up prescription pills for Dr Murray to give to MJ. There’s this 4’11″ short white woman with blonde hair, maybe she was Whitney’s agent, I remember her telling Raffles to, “stay away from Whitney” and “stop giving her drugs.“ :icon_question:


Raffles was also known to pick up prescriptions for Whitney Houston, Michael Jackson and Dr Conrad Murray from the Mickey Fine Pharmacy in Beverly Hills off of Wilshire blvd. :icon_question:



Here is what another witness/victim of Raffles Dawson had to say:

I went to MJ memorial with Raffles. He even got me seat with no tickets. One time went to interview Jesse Jackson.

I was with Raffles everytime I was in LA in 09. We drive together all day eat toghter one time at the bet awards I even had to bring the Jackson’s home with Al Sharpton in my car service, cause for some reason their car was not there.

Did Raffles Van Exel clean up the drugs in Whitney Houston’s hotel room after the singer died? Of course he did. Don’t believe me.. Ask Pat Houston.

http://diaryofahollywoodstreetking.com/raffles-van-exel-hollywoods-1-enabler/#more-43266
Title: Re: Raffles van Exel Revealed to be Whitney Houston’s Drug Dealer & the coverup.
Post by: MJonmind on March 30, 2012, 02:46:35 PM
Sounds like the Houston family and Jackson family and their insiders are giving a lot of hints of negative connections to Raffles, yet they protect him. Why?  We know Michael orchestrated a death hoax for at least 20 years, and probably set up the phone call of his fears about TT as part of this. It's all very elaborate. What's the difference between conman and orchestrating the death hoax; well I guess conman usually infers robbing people of money which may not be the cases with Raffles.  I really think Raffles is the new edge in this hoax saga.
I like the poster of MJ behind Raffles, where the eyes look identical. Is it a hint?
Title: Re: Raffles van Exel Revealed to be Whitney Houston’s Drug Dealer & the coverup.
Post by: Do on March 30, 2012, 05:43:53 PM
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Sounds like the Houston family and Jackson family and their insiders are giving a lot of hints of negative connections to Raffles, yet they protect him. Why?  We know Michael orchestrated a death hoax for at least 20 years, and probably set up the phone call of his fears about TT as part of this. It's all very elaborate. What's the difference between conman and orchestrating the death hoax; well I guess conman usually infers robbing people of money which may not be the cases with Raffles.  I really think Raffles is the new edge in this hoax saga.
I like the poster of MJ behind Raffles, where the eyes look identical. Is it a hint?

I really don't think so. This is what people in Holland told on television yesterday and today about Raffles:

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Danny de Munk sent a tweet on Thursday morning proving that Raffles not only in the United States pursues a dubious reputation, but also caused turmoil in his young years. When fourteen-year-old singer Danny sat in the same classroom with Raffles on the Houweningen MAVO (school) in Amsterdam, his memories of the man who has been discredited in America following the death of Whitney Houston, are anything but warm.
As Danny went to the highschool, he first came into contact with Raffles van Exel. "I know him since I was about 14 or 15. I was of course very known as Ciske de Rat" (a Dutch movie in which Danny was playing the main part), tells Danny to RTL Boulevard. And Raffles was already very interested in people with success. The 'everyone's friend' was trying to profit from the triumph of the small Ciske, but they weren't getting along at all. "Raffles had something I wanted to guard myself against. He brought me so much sadness in my childhood. He is devilish and evil."

Mother Ria tells Boulevard that Raffles quickly turned into a heavy stalker. When Raffles didn't stop calling their house and showed up uninvited and unwanted, she took Danny out of school. "He really wanted to destroy me then," said Danny. "When he was 17, 18, he finally stopped harrassing me and went to look across the border. In America he has found a few other souls he then began to bother".[/
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Yesterday we already told the story of Danny de Munk, who went with Raffles in high school, but today there are more former classmates with stories to tell. They confirm the story of Danny and tell that Raffles had previously starlike airs. He was driven to school in a limousine and he tried everywhere to come onstage.
Now it turns out that multiple people were conned by Raffles when he got older. And he did that in a highly refined manner. "Like many close friends he was also invited to our home and suddenly there were things missing," says Ex-IT-owner (IT was a large discotheque in Amsterdam) Edwin van kollenburg to RTL Boulevard. "Leather jacket, other jackets, occasionally money and later large amounts of money."

Also a former Big Diet-participant Francis Red remembers that Raffles was forcing himself into her life. Within no time he was in the kitchen in her gaybar in Amsterdam. "All those stories, that he was friends with Whitney Houston and Oprah Winfrey. It turned even out to be true", tells Francis to RTL Boulevard. The brownnoser is a refined worker. After the cosy claptrap in the café it went wrong. "I have my bar for a long time and my bag is always there. The first time he had been in the kitchen my wallet was empty. After he came back another time, my whole wallet was gone. "
But not only Francis was robbed by Raffles. Also Edwin was a victim. "Suddenly there was money missing", he says. "What I can remember, the first time it was 3000, 4000 guilder. And after that, a big amount, approximately 7000, 8000 guilder disappeared. Then we saw Sir Raffles never again
."

There are plenty of items on television but unfortunately all (partly) in Dutch, and I really can't imagine that Michael wants anything to do with him. He's no good.
If you want me to post some links let me know!
Title: Re: Raffles van Exel Revealed to be Whitney Houston’s Drug Dealer & the coverup.
Post by: suspicious mind on March 30, 2012, 09:54:36 PM
what is the one song ( is it from the michael cd or no?) with the rap and is talking about he got troubles of his own , stuff coming up missing from his house. my friends aren't my friends if they are robbing me .......so on  :-[ anybody know what i am talking about?
Title: Re: Raffles van Exel Revealed to be Whitney Houston’s Drug Dealer & the coverup.
Post by: RK on March 30, 2012, 10:09:29 PM
Suspicious.....this one......
This Time Around lyrics

This time around I'll never get bit
Though you really wanna fix me
This time around you're making me sick
Though you really wanna get me
Somebody's out
Somebody's out to get me
They really wanna fix me, hit me
But this time around I'm taking no shit
Though you really wanna get me
You really wanna get me

He really thought he really had
Had a hold on me
He really thought he really had
They thought they really had control of me
He really thought he really had
Control of me
He really thought he really had
They thought they really could control me

This time around I'll never get bit
Though you really wanna get me
This time around I'm taking no shit
Though you really wanna fix me
Somebody's out
Somebody's out to use me
They really want to use me
And then falsely accuse me
This time around
They'll take it like spit
'Cause you really can't control me

You know you can't control me
He really thought he really had
Had a hold on me
He really thought he really had
They thought they really had control of me
He really thought he really had
A hold on me
He really thought he really had
They thought they really had control of me
He really thought he really had
Had a hold on me
He really thought he really had
They thought they really had control of me
He really thought he really had
A hold on me
He really thought he really had
They thought they really had control of me

[Rap: The Notorious BIG]
( From: http://www.elyrics.net/read/m/michael-jackson-lyrics/this-time-around-lyrics.html )
Listen, I've got problems of my own
Flashin' cameras, taps on my phone
Even in my home I ain't safe as I should be
Things always missin'
Maybe it could be my friends
They ain't friends if they robbin' me
Stoppin' me from makin' a profit, see
Apology shallow like the ocean
I guess I'll resort to gun totin'
If I was dead broke and smokin'
I'd probably be by my lonesome
I'm a killer nigga I ain't jokin'
Endo smoke got me choked and I'm hopin'
The fool comes slippin'
So I could blow'em open
This time around
I changed up my flow
Got rid of the rocks
Got Pitts by the door
I've raised other peoples to watch my back
Stay away from strangers
So I won't slack
And I know my nigga Mike like that
Baby
[Michael]
This time around yeah...
He really thought he really had
Control of me He really thought he really had
They thought they really had control of me
He really thought he really had
A hold on me
He really thought he really had
They thought they really had control of me
He really thought he really had
Had a hold on me
He really thought he really had
They thought they really had control of me
He really thought he really had
Control of me
He really thought he really had
They thought they really had control of me
He really thought he really had
A hold on me
He really thought he really had
They thought they really had control of me
This time around yeah
He really thought
Title: Re: Raffles van Exel Revealed to be Whitney Houston’s Drug Dealer & the coverup.
Post by: suspicious mind on March 30, 2012, 10:14:17 PM
yep that !  though i must confess the only rap i can come close to keeping up with completely is the thriller one  :-[ guess that really isn't a rap  :-[ :thjajaja121: see what i mean  :LolLolLolLol: :Pulling_hair:
Title: Re: Raffles van Exel Revealed to be Whitney Houston’s Drug Dealer & the coverup.
Post by: Grace on March 31, 2012, 02:02:28 AM
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This is what people in Holland told on television yesterday and today about Raffles:

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Danny de Munk sent a tweet on Thursday morning proving that Raffles not only in the United States pursues a dubious reputation, but also caused turmoil in his young years. When fourteen-year-old singer Danny sat in the same classroom with Raffles on the Houweningen MAVO (school) in Amsterdam, his memories of the man who has been discredited in America following the death of Whitney Houston, are anything but warm.
As Danny went to the highschool, he first came into contact with Raffles van Exel. "I know him since I was about 14 or 15. I was of course very known as Ciske de Rat" (a Dutch movie in which Danny was playing the main part), tells Danny to RTL Boulevard. And Raffles was already very interested in people with success. The 'everyone's friend' was trying to profit from the triumph of the small Ciske, but they weren't getting along at all. "Raffles had something I wanted to guard myself against. He brought me so much sadness in my childhood. He is devilish and evil."

Mother Ria tells Boulevard that Raffles quickly turned into a heavy stalker. When Raffles didn't stop calling their house and showed up uninvited and unwanted, she took Danny out of school. "He really wanted to destroy me then," said Danny. "When he was 17, 18, he finally stopped harrassing me and went to look across the border. In America he has found a few other souls he then began to bother".[/
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Yesterday we already told the story of Danny de Munk, who went with Raffles in high school, but today there are more former classmates with stories to tell. They confirm the story of Danny and tell that Raffles had previously starlike airs. He was driven to school in a limousine and he tried everywhere to come onstage.
Now it turns out that multiple people were conned by Raffles when he got older. And he did that in a highly refined manner. "Like many close friends he was also invited to our home and suddenly there were things missing," says Ex-IT-owner (IT was a large discotheque in Amsterdam) Edwin van kollenburg to RTL Boulevard. "Leather jacket, other jackets, occasionally money and later large amounts of money."

Also a former Big Diet-participant Francis Red remembers that Raffles was forcing himself into her life. Within no time he was in the kitchen in her gaybar in Amsterdam. "All those stories, that he was friends with Whitney Houston and Oprah Winfrey. It turned even out to be true", tells Francis to RTL Boulevard. The brownnoser is a refined worker. After the cosy claptrap in the café it went wrong. "I have my bar for a long time and my bag is always there. The first time he had been in the kitchen my wallet was empty. After he came back another time, my whole wallet was gone. "
But not only Francis was robbed by Raffles. Also Edwin was a victim. "Suddenly there was money missing", he says. "What I can remember, the first time it was 3000, 4000 guilder. And after that, a big amount, approximately 7000, 8000 guilder disappeared. Then we saw Sir Raffles never again
."

There are plenty of items on television but unfortunately all (partly) in Dutch, and I really can't imagine that Michael wants anything to do with him. He's no good.
If you want me to post some links let me know!

Ask and you shall be given.  :icon_albino:


So "Connie" is Danny in real life and RvE is painted as a stalker and a semi-professional thief?
I then wonder whether TT has a good insurer.

Federal Express transporting the cocaine packages between Amsterdam, Chicago and L.A.?
http://www.rtl.nl/%28/actueel/rtlboulevard/entertainment/articleview/%29/components/actueel/rtlboulevard/2012/03_maart/entertainment/raffles_van_exel_bewijs_bij_politie.xml (http://www.rtl.nl/%28/actueel/rtlboulevard/entertainment/articleview/%29/components/actueel/rtlboulevard/2012/03_maart/entertainment/raffles_van_exel_bewijs_bij_politie.xml)

7 weeks later, all of a sudden, cocaine was found in Whitney's hotel room which was not removed then and the authorities have it in their possession?
http://www.tmz.com/2012/03/30/cocaine-found-whitney-houston-hotel-room/ (http://www.tmz.com/2012/03/30/cocaine-found-whitney-houston-hotel-room/)

This smells like a dead rat.

I tell you, it is not the thief.
It is the gardener in love, the life long disrespected counsel or the underpaid cleaner.


Where's Whitney's complete AR? Should be in by now.


For TMZ, Whitney still is not dead btw.

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Whitney Houston | Celebrity Directory (http://www.tmz.com/celebrity-directory/?adid=celeb-pg-after-add-links)  Whitney Elizabeth Houston (born August 9, 1963) is an American R&B/pop singer, actress, and former fashion model. Houston is the most awarded female artist of all time, according to Guinness World Records, and her list of awards include 2 Emmy Awards, 6 Grammy Awards, 16 Billboard Music Awards, 22 American Music Awards, among a total of 415 career awards as of 2010. Houston is also one of the world's best-selling music artists, having sold over 170 million albums and singles worldwide. Inspired by several prominent soul singers in her extended family, including mother Cissy Houston and cousins Dionne Warwick and Dee Dee Warwick, as well as her godmother, Aretha Franklin, Houston began singing with New Jersey church's junior gospel choir at age 11. After she began performing alongside her mother in night clubs in the New York City area, she was discovered by Arista Records label head…
Also Known As: Whitney Elizabeth Houston
http://www.tmz.com/person/whitney-houston/ (http://www.tmz.com/person/whitney-houston/)
Title: Re: Raffles van Exel Revealed to be Whitney Houston’s Drug Dealer & the coverup.
Post by: MJonmind on March 31, 2012, 02:45:47 AM
Thanks Do, but there's still a lot of mystery with this guy.

Grace
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So "Connie" is Danny in real life and RvE is painted as a stalker and a semi-professional thief?
I then wonder whether TT has a good insurer.
Could you explain what you mean?  Are you saying 'Danny de Munk?   'Connie' is from this story right?  http://diaryofahollywoodstreetking.com/will-the-real-raffles-van-exel-please-stand-up/  where Raffles promised her she would sing for Pres. Bush, and it was a lie.
I can't get those first 2 links here. What do we gather from them?  Thanks!

Title: Re: Raffles van Exel Revealed to be Whitney Houston’s Drug Dealer & the coverup.
Post by: Grace on March 31, 2012, 03:01:44 AM
Yes, MJonmind.
"Connie" is from the story you and 2good2btrue cited.

The Federal Express info is coming from this tabloid article:

(bad translation program, sorry)

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'Proof drug dealing Raffles van Exel at police'
 Evidence that Raffles van Exel was responsible for the cocaine from Whitney Houston, would at this moment the police in Beverlly Hills lie.

 See also:
 Danny de Munk: Raffles has given me much grief
 Dutch death involved in Whitney Houston?

 Related videos:
 Raffles van Exel under fire

 That tells the American rapper ex-Jacky Jasper on RTL Boulevard. He follows Raffles for many years and is confident the Dutchman does not whistle. "He was the drug dealer. He was the man who held high." He would Whitney in 2005, when the singer in a deep valley was, even though drugs have provided.


 Raffles accompanied Michael Jackson in the time he was on trial for child abuse and Jacky as the Dutchman again sees diving just before the death of Whitney, he knows for sure: this man must be stopped.

 Jacky took matters into their own hands and get to the police. His lawyer Ronald Richards has the package this afternoon with evidence and testimony delivered to the police. Jacky says that it is a Dutchman who in the past with many experienced and Raffles to be compiled. The sources confirm that Raffles is active in the cocaine trade and that he also dealt in narcotics. The witness should also know that Raffles packets sent by Federal Express between Amsterdam, Los Angeles and Chicago.

original in Dutch here:
http://www.rtl.nl/%28/actueel/rtlboulevard/entertainment/articleview/%29/components/actueel/rtlboulevard/2012/03_maart/entertainment/raffles_van_exel_bewijs_bij_politie.xml (http://www.rtl.nl/%28/actueel/rtlboulevard/entertainment/articleview/%29/components/actueel/rtlboulevard/2012/03_maart/entertainment/raffles_van_exel_bewijs_bij_politie.xml)
Title: Re: Raffles van Exel Revealed to be Whitney Houston’s Drug Dealer & the coverup.
Post by: 2good2btrue on March 31, 2012, 05:09:44 AM
Trying to find some more dirt on this dude, as his Raffles entertainment LLC website lists him as an actor...as well as all the other fake resume'..

As far as being an actor, I have researched the name Raffles Van Excel, and nothing comes up other than his youtube videos....but when researching the name Raffles Dawson, I have found one movie he played in, on the IMDB...

This is the site:  http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0991602/

He played a short role in a movie called "Havinck" in 1987...directed by Frans Weisz..   A dutch movie, where he played a part named "Dennis". 

Everytime I research Raffles entertainment...I always find the same cut and paste information...his website is under construction.......

http://www.youtube.com/user/RafflesEntertainment

About this user:

Thank you for visiting the Raffles Entertainment YouTube Channel. We are launching a new series called "Your Entertainment Spotlight" and will be interviewing YOUR favorite celebrities. Here you will find exciting news and information about the entertainment, music and movie scene. You now have access behind the velvet rope and a front row seat to Hollywood!

Raffles Van Exel, is a European actor, music consultant and producer from Amsterdam, The Netherlands. He founded Raffles Entertainment, LLC, Max Records, Inc., and charitable organization Artist For Global Unity.

Mr. Van Exel is a highly respected entertainment consultant having guided some of the worlds most acclaimed artists, such as the late King of Pop Michael Jackson, Whitney Houston, Patti LaBelle, Colby O' Donis, Ras Penco, Lance Bass (Founding member of iconic pop group, N'Sync), Flavor Flav of the iconic rap group, Public Enemy and of the "Flavor of Love" fame, George Benson, and the late Ray Charles. Raffles van Exel has produced for The Queen of Salsa - the late and great Celia Cruz, funk pioneer George Clinton, Sisqo, Nick Cannon, Howie Dorough (Founding member of Grammy nominated group, The Backstreet Boys), gangsta rap icon and actor Ice-T, and a host of other artists.

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Title: Re: Raffles van Exel Revealed to be Whitney Houston’s Drug Dealer & the coverup.
Post by: 2good2btrue on March 31, 2012, 06:18:02 AM
Found the original video in Dutch...!!!

Can it be translated by anyone please....you need to install Microsoft Silverlight to watch it..

http://www.rtl.nl/xl/#/u/91a6bf79-2b88-467d-9c0f-26e5ee909c92


http://www.lipstickalley.com/f343/raffles-van-exel-alleged-drug-courier-ids-dutch-tv-383192/


You can find the link on Home - RTL Boulevard. Three vids in Dutch investigating Raffles.

1. RTL XL

2. RTL XL

3. RTL XL
Title: Re: Raffles van Exel Revealed to be Whitney Houston’s Drug Dealer & the coverup.
Post by: Grace on March 31, 2012, 06:41:03 AM
Could it get any worse? Yes it could.  :icon_eek:

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Whitney Houston death suspect Raffles van Exel was high class rent boy who charmed gay stars for fame 
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All his life Raffles van Exel, wanted only one thing: Fame!! It looks like he finally got it. But not in the way he wanted.

 The Paramaribo (Surinam) born Raffles wanted access to fame from the day he was born. Soon after he arrived in the Netherlands, with his American foster family called Dawson, young  Exel stalked a child star who was unfortunate enough to find himself at the same school as him. The fame hungry Exel followed the young star called Danny de Munck everywhere and upset him so much that de Munck now says: “Raffles van Exel is the evil incarnate. I’d have preferred to go to school with a criminal.” Danny was so stressed and upset by Exel that his mother had to take her boy of school.

But this was just the start of Raffles van Exel’s desperate attempts to become famous. As soon as he was old enough he charmed his way into a TV series starring Dutch openly gay actor and performer Willem Nijholt. After that he made a habit of trying to get famous through gay celebrities. He was a pretty boy and men and women were charmed by this as well as his smooth way of talking. At the end of the 1980’s Raffles managed to get into George Michael’s scene for a while when the star performed in the Netherlands. He stole from his friends in the gay bars he visited. He was a star in the IT, though most men thought he was sleazy and those he did get missed cash the next day. Celebrities did like him as he knew how to smooth talk them and were taken with him. He charmed Billy Preston to the point that the star took him anywhere and even wrote a special song for him. Little did Billy know that the only reason for Raffles getting close to him was to impress a manager. The manager said that Raffles had no talent. So Raffles got Preston to write the song for him and drive him to the manager with his limo to make him see others thought differently.

The manager, Jos van Zoelen, remembers: “He was only 16, and could barely sing, sort of rap and had no talent. So I didn’t sign him. Then later I saw him step out of a limo with Billy Preston and later at his concert where women swooned over him. Soon after I signed him -as Raffles Dawson, not a clue where the whole ‘Exel’ stems from. We did a photo shoot and if he had been able to sing he’d have made it. He had looks and flair but no singing voice.”

Still he used the contract as a weapon. Van Zoelen got many mails from the UK and USA asking to hear his material. When Jos told him to slow down he cancelled his contract and said he would “do things differently.”
Soon he sat in on TV music shows got friendly with Julio Iglesias and met George Benson. Soon after Exel moved to America. Raffles stayed in touch with Benson, moved in with him but got in trouble after pretending to be his son and stealing from him.

Benson pressed charges. These were the first charges in a long line. Raffles was thrown out of the USA several times, but kept getting back in the country on false papers with a different surname. He got caught only once. Van Exel is the last name in a row and is more real then others: it is the birth name of his Surinam mother.
 Exel continued his quest for fame. It is thought he joined a classy rent boy agency to get in touch with celebrities. He usually went for stars that were vulnerable because they were in the closet, so he had leverage over them.

For some reason he also met Jermaine Jackson. This was where his rise to fame began. He got in the news as he claimed to help him organise a concert. Jermaine came on TV telling the world this was true.

The whole Jackson family was taken with him. He was introduced to Whitney Houston and Oprah Winfrey. The friendship ended when Raffles stole a bouquet of flowers from Michael Jackson’s casket and sold it on Ebay.
Soon he promoted from rent boy to dealer. Jackie Jasper has followed Raffles for years and knows that he was the person that got Whitney Houston into drugs and is responsible for her gaunt and sick look in 2005. Says the former rapper: “His whole act speaks for itself, he’s the guy who creates its and then can go to the press with the story, so the press would write about him. He only comes around to those that are in desperate times of need. He was around Michael Jackson when Michael went through his trail and charges. He’s the mystery man that no one was talking about that was always there. There was packages left at the Bell Air hotel, for Bobby Brown, that Bobby had ordered. Cocaine. And Raffs was living with Whitney and Bobby at the time. He would go to the concierge pick up the packages and pay for them. He was the drug errand boy. He is the guy who keeps you high. When the police came no-one found any evidence of any cocaine. Raffles cleaned it, we know he cleaned it. And we also know that the guy who cleaned the evidence was also the drugs supplier. We have evidence of him picking up the packages from the concierge at the Beverly hills hotel he gave to Bobby and Whitney. Right now everything I have gathered has been turned over to my lawyer who will give it over to the Beverly Hills Police department and we’re gonna press charges against Raff. I believe Raffs is still in America because it’s so hard for him to get into the country, why would he leave the country. So that’s why I’ll put the pressure on him to smoke him out.”

Others say a friendly pilot has already flown him out of the country and have helped him to new papers.
The saga continues.

http://divinevarod.com/2012/03/30/whitney-houston-death-suspect-raffles-van-exel-was-high-class-rent-boy-who-charmed-gay-stars-for-fame/ (http://divinevarod.com/2012/03/30/whitney-houston-death-suspect-raffles-van-exel-was-high-class-rent-boy-who-charmed-gay-stars-for-fame/)


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Title: Re: Raffles van Exel Revealed to be Whitney Houston’s Drug Dealer & the coverup.
Post by: 2good2btrue on March 31, 2012, 07:19:52 AM
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Could it get any worse? Yes it could.  :icon_eek:

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Whitney Houston death suspect Raffles van Exel was high class rent boy who charmed gay stars for fame 
Posted: 2012/03/30 in Michael Jackson (http://divinevarod.com/category/michael-jackson/), Rafles van Exel (http://divinevarod.com/category/rafles-van-exel/), Showbiz (http://divinevarod.com/category/showbiz/), Whitney Houston (http://divinevarod.com/category/whitney-houston/)                 
 Tags: Billy Preston (http://divinevarod.com/tag/billy-preston/), Bobby Brown (http://divinevarod.com/tag/bobby-brown/), Danny de Munck (http://divinevarod.com/tag/danny-de-munck/), George Benson (http://divinevarod.com/tag/george-benson/), George Michael (http://divinevarod.com/tag/george-michael/), Jackie Jasper (http://divinevarod.com/tag/jackie-jasper/), Jermaine Jackson (http://divinevarod.com/tag/jermaine-jackson/), Julio Iglesias (http://divinevarod.com/tag/julio-iglesias/), Oprah Winfrey (http://divinevarod.com/tag/oprah-winfrey/), Raffles van Exel (http://divinevarod.com/tag/raffles-van-exel/), Whitney Houston (http://divinevarod.com/tag/whitney-houston/), Willem Nijholt (http://divinevarod.com/tag/willem-nijholt/)                 0 (http://divinevarod.com/2012/03/30/whitney-houston-death-suspect-raffles-van-exel-was-high-class-rent-boy-who-charmed-gay-stars-for-fame/#respond)


 (http://divinevarod.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/raff.jpg?w=300&h=225) (http://divinevarod.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/raff.jpg)

All his life Raffles van Exel, wanted only one thing: Fame!! It looks like he finally got it. But not in the way he wanted.

 The Paramaribo (Surinam) born Raffles wanted access to fame from the day he was born. Soon after he arrived in the Netherlands, with his American foster family called Dawson, young  Exel stalked a child star who was unfortunate enough to find himself at the same school as him. The fame hungry Exel followed the young star called Danny de Munck everywhere and upset him so much that de Munck now says: “Raffles van Exel is the evil incarnate. I’d have preferred to go to school with a criminal.” Danny was so stressed and upset by Exel that his mother had to take her boy of school.

But this was just the start of Raffles van Exel’s desperate attempts to become famous. As soon as he was old enough he charmed his way into a TV series starring Dutch openly gay actor and performer Willem Nijholt. After that he made a habit of trying to get famous through gay celebrities. He was a pretty boy and men and women were charmed by this as well as his smooth way of talking. At the end of the 1980’s Raffles managed to get into George Michael’s scene for a while when the star performed in the Netherlands. He stole from his friends in the gay bars he visited. He was a star in the IT, though most men thought he was sleazy and those he did get missed cash the next day. Celebrities did like him as he knew how to smooth talk them and were taken with him. He charmed Billy Preston to the point that the star took him anywhere and even wrote a special song for him. Little did Billy know that the only reason for Raffles getting close to him was to impress a manager. The manager said that Raffles had no talent. So Raffles got Preston to write the song for him and drive him to the manager with his limo to make him see others thought differently.

The manager, Jos van Zoelen, remembers: “He was only 16, and could barely sing, sort of rap and had no talent. So I didn’t sign him. Then later I saw him step out of a limo with Billy Preston and later at his concert where women swooned over him. Soon after I signed him -as Raffles Dawson, not a clue where the whole ‘Exel’ stems from. We did a photo shoot and if he had been able to sing he’d have made it. He had looks and flair but no singing voice.”

Still he used the contract as a weapon. Van Zoelen got many mails from the UK and USA asking to hear his material. When Jos told him to slow down he cancelled his contract and said he would “do things differently.”
Soon he sat in on TV music shows got friendly with Julio Iglesias and met George Benson. Soon after Exel moved to America. Raffles stayed in touch with Benson, moved in with him but got in trouble after pretending to be his son and stealing from him.

Benson pressed charges. These were the first charges in a long line. Raffles was thrown out of the USA several times, but kept getting back in the country on false papers with a different surname. He got caught only once. Van Exel is the last name in a row and is more real then others: it is the birth name of his Surinam mother.
 Exel continued his quest for fame. It is thought he joined a classy rent boy agency to get in touch with celebrities. He usually went for stars that were vulnerable because they were in the closet, so he had leverage over them.

For some reason he also met Jermaine Jackson. This was where his rise to fame began. He got in the news as he claimed to help him organise a concert. Jermaine came on TV telling the world this was true.

The whole Jackson family was taken with him. He was introduced to Whitney Houston and Oprah Winfrey. The friendship ended when Raffles stole a bouquet of flowers from Michael Jackson’s casket and sold it on Ebay.
Soon he promoted from rent boy to dealer. Jackie Jasper has followed Raffles for years and knows that he was the person that got Whitney Houston into drugs and is responsible for her gaunt and sick look in 2005. Says the former rapper: “His whole act speaks for itself, he’s the guy who creates its and then can go to the press with the story, so the press would write about him. He only comes around to those that are in desperate times of need. He was around Michael Jackson when Michael went through his trail and charges. He’s the mystery man that no one was talking about that was always there. There was packages left at the Bell Air hotel, for Bobby Brown, that Bobby had ordered. Cocaine. And Raffs was living with Whitney and Bobby at the time. He would go to the concierge pick up the packages and pay for them. He was the drug errand boy. He is the guy who keeps you high. When the police came no-one found any evidence of any cocaine. Raffles cleaned it, we know he cleaned it. And we also know that the guy who cleaned the evidence was also the drugs supplier. We have evidence of him picking up the packages from the concierge at the Beverly hills hotel he gave to Bobby and Whitney. Right now everything I have gathered has been turned over to my lawyer who will give it over to the Beverly Hills Police department and we’re gonna press charges against Raff. I believe Raffs is still in America because it’s so hard for him to get into the country, why would he leave the country. So that’s why I’ll put the pressure on him to smoke him out.”

Others say a friendly pilot has already flown him out of the country and have helped him to new papers.
The saga continues.

http://divinevarod.com/2012/03/30/whitney-houston-death-suspect-raffles-van-exel-was-high-class-rent-boy-who-charmed-gay-stars-for-fame/ (http://divinevarod.com/2012/03/30/whitney-houston-death-suspect-raffles-van-exel-was-high-class-rent-boy-who-charmed-gay-stars-for-fame/)


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Damm, you beat me to it.....I was just about to post that as well....great minds think alike...

He stole flowers from MJ's casket to sell on EBAY.....what an asshole...Did you get to watch the video link above??  Is there anyone else on this forum who can translate Dutch??? 
How come I can't post pictures anymore?????
 
Title: Re: Raffles van Exel Revealed to be Whitney Houston’s Drug Dealer & the coverup.
Post by: Do on March 31, 2012, 07:37:34 AM
@Grace @MJonmind

No, Connie is not Danny. Connie is also a Dutch singer who was promised by Raffles she could sing for President Bush.

This is the (crappy by Bing) translated article. Sorry I have no time to translate it properly. But you get the point I guess! Raffles is really a devilish man, and when you read the article, you see that Jermaine was also involved! It's getting creepier by the day...

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Pentagon
The Dutch artists manager Raffles van Exel would give a concert together with singer Jermaine Jackson in memory of the events of 11 september. Location: the Pentagon. President Bush also would be present at the concert. The television program RTL Boulevard phoned with the Pentagon and the White House. Both emphatically denied the existence of a concert on 9 september.

Jackson
Included a response from Jermaine Jackson on camera had to remove the doubts yesterday. According to the singer is chosen as a singer for a benefit indeed Vanessa single, titled ' Why oh Why Jackson was silent about the concert ', but also. Van Exel stated later in the showbiz programme that the location not the Pentagon, but it would be John f. Kennedy Centre. Inquire also learned that there is no concert is held.

Media
The media got quite early this week with the message that Connie breukhoven, aka Vanessa, was chosen to sing on the ' large charity concert ' in remembrance of the victims of the terrorist attacks in America. Though many wondered why businesswoman was chosen, and not artists breukhoven as Marco Borsato or Trijntje Oosterhuis, believed the message was. Vanessa currently has a hit with an ode to Pim Fortuyn.

Liar
The editors of RTL Boulevard is since the first broadcast beginning this week bombarded with phone calls and emails from people who warn of the artists manager and ' pathological liar ' Raffles of Exel. He'd known to promise Golden mountains.

Vanessa continues to hope
Vanessa says to continue to hope that the concert in the meantime continues. Earlier this week she said this in the Telegraph: "I stand on the podium in Washington DC on 11 september with among others Michael Jackson and Whitney Houston. I found it tremendously unbelievable, for which they have themselves because now I need? But it is really true. Jermaine I have already a few times on the phone and had even called him out of bed at night to see if everything has been knocked out. But it is so. "[/
quote]

http://www.rtl.nl/(/actueel/rtlnieuws/binnenland/)/components/actueel/rtlnieuws/2002/06_juni/21/binnenland/vanessaniet.xml



 
Title: Re: Raffles van Exel Revealed to be Whitney Houston’s Drug Dealer & the coverup.
Post by: 2good2btrue on March 31, 2012, 08:11:24 AM
This is the Dutch RTL show video talking about Raffles.......can't understand it though.

http://www.rtl.nl/xl/#/u/91a6bf79-2b88-467d-9c0f-26e5ee909c92


There is a blonde short women who is also interviewed, and her name is Francis ROOD...I took stills from the video, but have not been able to attach them...


And yes, it's getting creepier by the day....There must be a connection here.  Raffles maybe has been set up??
Title: Re: Raffles van Exel Revealed to be Whitney Houston’s Drug Dealer & the coverup.
Post by: SimPattyK on March 31, 2012, 08:12:35 AM
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Can I ask if anyone else has noticed the size of this mans hands and the length of his fingers??
He really reminds me of ET..
He also wears false nails and even they are really long and white..
Look at his mannerisms when he talks......check out his eyes..
This may sound really far fetched, but could he be from outerspace?? A reptilian ??
  :animal0017: :affraid: :affraid:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWfzw5QKAbs

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWfzw5QKAbs[/youtube]

I still don't know what to make of this guy.
I still can't decide whether he is involved in the hoax (good guy) OR whether he is being set up in the hoax in order to be exposed (bad guy).
I don't know if he's Michael, E.T. or who knows who, but what I do know is that this guy, good or bad, is really really BIZARRE to say the least!!
BIZARRE because:
1. of his ambitions to reach celebs and fame
2. of how he drew so much attention after Whitney's "death"
3. of the way he talks, his gestures (mannerism), etc...
4. of how he acts: so theatrical, so unnatural, so gay, crazy-like!
5. of how he has some Conrad Murray-traits in him, especially in the way he moves his mouth when pronouncing the words.

In short, he's awkward... really "not like any other guys" !!
Title: Re: Raffles van Exel Revealed to be Whitney Houston’s Drug Dealer & the coverup.
Post by: Grace on March 31, 2012, 03:10:31 PM
He's just too loud.
Too exalted.
Too noisy.
A fishmonger who knows his fish is two days old but pretends it came in last night.
Not convincing though.


Title: Re: Raffles van Exel Revealed to be Whitney Houston’s Drug Dealer & the coverup.
Post by: everlastinglove_MJ on March 31, 2012, 07:25:35 PM
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This is the Dutch RTL show video talking about Raffles.......can't understand it though.

http://www.rtl.nl/xl/#/u/91a6bf79-2b88-467d-9c0f-26e5ee909c92


There is a blonde short women who is also interviewed, and her name is Francis ROOD...I took stills from the video, but have not been able to attach them...


And yes, it's getting creepier by the day....There must be a connection here.  Raffles maybe has been set up??

I translated this part of the TV show 'RTL Boulevard' (NB: this is a popular tabloid show) concerning Raffles van Exel:

"Edwin van Kollenburg, ex-owner of disco It Amsterdam: “according to Conny Breukhoven, a Dutch singer, RvE made an arrangement for her to perform for President Bush, which turned out to be a lie.” “We suspected RvE from stealing money, leather jackets, colberts while he was attending at parties in’84/’85 and later on he was stealing more money.
Francis Rood owner of a Dutch gay bar: “all those stories about celebrities like Whitney Houston, Oprah etc. were unbelievable, but I found out they were true”. Kollenburg: “With his smooth talk and charm he had managed to get close to celebrities”. Also Francis Rood claimed that her wallet with 1000 was stolen and later again he stole her wallet with the complete assets of that night. The It owner also claimed  that he had stolen money 3000-4000 up to 7000-8000 guilders and later he was gone, vanished. He thought: “I bet he is going to do the same ‘tricks’ elsewhere.” Francis Rood: “RvE was telling me that: “he had to arrange some things for Whitney, he was very open about it”. TV host: “striking statements, which could be valuable for the American police and journalists”. Albert Verlinde, TV show host: “that’s correct, we have had contact with ‘Vanity Fair’ and ‘Forbes’
Celebrity journalist: “he’s bad news”, sort of magnet for people who are sensitive for it, charming, smooth talk, good looks”. About drugs: “he’s a “user” but I don’t know if he’s a dealer”.  TV host: “Years ago he had sold a book, claiming that it was signed with blood of OJ Simpson. MJFC is blaiming RvE for selling the MJ funeral casket flowers on e-Bay.” “We made efforts to get in contact with RvE, same as the American police and journalists, but still no succes”."

translated from: http://www.rtl.nl/xl/#/u/91a6bf79-2b88-467d-9c0f-26e5ee909c92

found this too:

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Mar. 30 2012 — 3:11 pm | 1,909 views | 0 comments
Whitney Houston: Alleged Drug Courier ID’d on Dutch TV Show
By ROGER FRIEDMAN
Whitney Houston‘s alleged drug courier has been identified on a DutchTV show sort of like our “Access Hollywood.” RTL producer Aran Bade has been following the stories we’ve been writing here about Raffles van Exel, aka Raffles Dawson, a ubiquitous celebrity hanger on who may have cleaned up Houston’s room before the police arrived on the day she died. RTL broadcast interviews on Friday in Amsterdam with two nightclub owners on the subject of van Exel who is believed to be in the US illegally. He is also the close associate of Patricia Houston, Whitney’s manager and sister-in-law. From “RTL Boulevard”:

“Hereby the quotes from Edwin van Kollenburg, ex-owner of the famous disco IT in Amsterdam (80′s and 90″s).

We also spoke with a owner of a Dutch gay bar, Francis Rood.
He [Raffles] stole money from both and they are doing their story now, because of the news in America and here in Holland.

This are the quotes from the drugs: (SOURCE: RTL BOULEVARD)

On the question: Do you th
Nou zal ik helemaal niet gek vinden. Nee, ik geloof dat daar voor 95% waarheid in schuilt.

(I will not be surprised if thats true. I believe for 95% that is is true)

We also have this quote from  Francis Rood – owner of a gaybar:

Dan zat ie te vertellen over Whitney Houston daar moest ie ook wel eens wat voor regelen dan had ze weer wat nodig, daar was hij heel open in.

You can find the link on www.rtlboulevard.nl
http://www.rtl.nl/xl/#/u/91a6bf79-2b88-467d-9c0f-26e5ee909c92

http://www.rtl.nl/xl/#/u/412f3631-e4d2-4653-8f3f-3c85479d5e9c/

http://www.rtl.nl/xl/#/u/1e261623-7d6d-4d6b-a9a1-fa813fb185a7

 
http://blogs.forbes.com/rogerfriedman/
Title: Re: Raffles van Exel Revealed to be Whitney Houston’s Drug Dealer & the coverup.
Post by: 2good2btrue on March 31, 2012, 09:47:34 PM
everlastinglove_MJ..thanks. :bearhug: :bearhug: I appreciate that..

So this guy is fake in every sense.  Did he take MJ's millions that night???

Considering we have been told he knows Tohme Tohme, another con man.

Is it possible TT and RvE were in it together, and embezzeled MJ's money???  Any thoughts !!


God bless
Title: Re: Raffles van Exel Revealed to be Whitney Houston’s Drug Dealer & the coverup.
Post by: MJonmind on April 01, 2012, 03:38:21 AM
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WHITNEY HOUSTON'S MYSTERY FRIEND
Off the Hook
In 'Cocaine Cover-Up'
30 min ago
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Whitney Houston's close friend -- Raffles van Exel -- is "extremely relieved" he is not in the crosshairs of the Beverly Hills Police Department in the singer's death investigation.

Several reports were posted this week that someone removed cocaine from Whitney Houston's hotel room before authorities arrived, and the reports say cops were targeting van Exel.

The stories are not true, because we know authorities actually found cocaine in the Beverly Hilton hotel room and cops are satisfied they have all the evidence they need to close the case. 

Our sources assure us ... there is no investigation focusing on anyone removing evidence from the hotel room.

As for van Exel ... we're told he's going to the Beverly Hills PD next week with his lawyer to make sure they're square with him.
http://www.tmz.com/2012/04/01/whitney-houston-raffles-van-exel-remove-cocaine-hotel-room-cover-up/#.T3gR_PD2Z8E

TMZ seem eager to clear Raffles name. "The stories are not true." Hm...maybe the other Dutch ones are not either. MJ's been planning this hoax a long time and may have friends in the Netherlands. When MJ sets up a character he has to count on people trying to follow up on references of names and places.  Like with Murray, MJ would have set up some elaborate history for Raffles as well, if he is an invented character.  For all the thefts people have said he did, no one has tried to charge him.

Raffles has the same drooping of his mouth on his left bottom lip as Murray and MJ did. The eyes are identical to MJ's.
Title: Re: Raffles van Exel Revealed to be Whitney Houston’s Drug Dealer & the coverup.
Post by: everlastinglove_MJ on April 01, 2012, 06:38:27 AM
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This is the Dutch RTL show video talking about Raffles.......can't understand it though.

http://www.rtl.nl/xl/#/u/91a6bf79-2b88-467d-9c0f-26e5ee909c92


There is a blonde short women who is also interviewed, and her name is Francis ROOD...I took stills from the video, but have not been able to attach them...


And yes, it's getting creepier by the day....There must be a connection here.  Raffles maybe has been set up??

I translated this part of the TV show 'RTL Boulevard' (NB: this is a popular tabloid show) concerning Raffles van Exel:

"Edwin van Kollenburg, ex-owner of disco It Amsterdam: “according to Conny Breukhoven, a Dutch singer, RvE made an arrangement for her to perform for President Bush, which turned out to be a lie.” “We suspected RvE from stealing money, leather jackets, colberts while he was attending at parties in’84/’85 and later on he was stealing more money.
Francis Rood owner of a Dutch gay bar: “all those stories about celebrities like Whitney Houston, Oprah etc. were unbelievable, but I found out they were true”. Kollenburg: “With his smooth talk and charm he had managed to get close to celebrities”. Also Francis Rood claimed that her wallet with 1000 was stolen and later again he stole her wallet with the complete assets of that night. The It owner also claimed  that he had stolen money 3000-4000 up to 7000-8000 guilders and later he was gone, vanished. He thought: “I bet he is going to do the same ‘tricks’ elsewhere.” Francis Rood: “RvE was telling me that: “he had to arrange some things for Whitney, he was very open about it”. TV host: “striking statements, which could be valuable for the American police and journalists”. Albert Verlinde, TV show host: “that’s correct, we have had contact with ‘Vanity Fair’ and ‘Forbes’
Celebrity journalist: “he’s bad news”, sort of magnet for people who are sensitive for it, charming, smooth talk, good looks”. About drugs: “he’s a “user” but I don’t know if he’s a dealer”.  TV host: “Years ago he had sold a book, claiming that it was signed with blood of OJ Simpson. MJFC is blaiming RvE for selling the MJ funeral casket flowers on e-Bay.” “We made efforts to get in contact with RvE, same as the American police and journalists, but still no succes”."

translated from: http://www.rtl.nl/xl/#/u/91a6bf79-2b88-467d-9c0f-26e5ee909c92

found this too:

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Follow MeRoger Friedman

 
Mar. 30 2012 — 3:11 pm | 1,909 views | 0 comments
Whitney Houston: Alleged Drug Courier ID’d on Dutch TV Show
By ROGER FRIEDMAN
Whitney Houston‘s alleged drug courier has been identified on a DutchTV show sort of like our “Access Hollywood.” RTL producer Aran Bade has been following the stories we’ve been writing here about Raffles van Exel, aka Raffles Dawson, a ubiquitous celebrity hanger on who may have cleaned up Houston’s room before the police arrived on the day she died. RTL broadcast interviews on Friday in Amsterdam with two nightclub owners on the subject of van Exel who is believed to be in the US illegally. He is also the close associate of Patricia Houston, Whitney’s manager and sister-in-law. From “RTL Boulevard”:

“Hereby the quotes from Edwin van Kollenburg, ex-owner of the famous disco IT in Amsterdam (80′s and 90″s).

We also spoke with a owner of a Dutch gay bar, Francis Rood.
He [Raffles] stole money from both and they are doing their story now, because of the news in America and here in Holland.

This are the quotes from the drugs: (SOURCE: RTL BOULEVARD)

On the question: Do you th
Nou zal ik helemaal niet gek vinden. Nee, ik geloof dat daar voor 95% waarheid in schuilt.

(I will not be surprised if thats true. I believe for 95% that is is true)

We also have this quote from  Francis Rood – owner of a gaybar:

Dan zat ie te vertellen over Whitney Houston daar moest ie ook wel eens wat voor regelen dan had ze weer wat nodig, daar was hij heel open in.

You can find the link on www.rtlboulevard.nl
http://www.rtl.nl/xl/#/u/91a6bf79-2b88-467d-9c0f-26e5ee909c92

http://www.rtl.nl/xl/#/u/412f3631-e4d2-4653-8f3f-3c85479d5e9c/

http://www.rtl.nl/xl/#/u/1e261623-7d6d-4d6b-a9a1-fa813fb185a7

 
http://blogs.forbes.com/rogerfriedman/

Just to make myself clear: I only translated the story of the "RTL Boulevard" show with the emphasis on the tabloidish level of this show; this doesn't mean I'm believing the stories, actually we all shouldn't believe them in the first place, or speculate. It means that the media is overexited to feed us sensational stories (again!). I'm not defending Raffles van Exel either, actually I don't know what to think about him right now, but just keep in mind that all the stories we've heard and read are gossip, hearsay and there's no proof. Right now I keep WATCHing, just wait, see and finally know.

L.O.V.E.
 

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Title: Re: Raffles van Exel Revealed to be Whitney Houston’s Drug Dealer & the coverup.
Post by: Grace on April 01, 2012, 07:29:11 AM
Think of:
+ unkown territory (not only far away but "certainly great")
+ unknown living conditions (not only not mine but "certainly beautiful")
+ unknown working conditions (not only not mine but "certainly glamorous")
+ sex (taboo #1)
   &
+ crime (taboo #2)
= a soap (xcape) is ready.

Essential: palm trees, white beach, stretch limos, $$$, skinny models, shady guys.

I wonder about the next character that will pop-up - being born on Virgin Islands, adopted by a Northern Mariana Islands matriarch, having grown up in Puerto Rico and working second row in VIP catering & party organization?
Title: Re: Raffles van Exel Revealed to be Whitney Houston’s Drug Dealer & the coverup.
Post by: Tink on April 02, 2012, 12:17:19 AM
I see only rumors and trashy tabloids covering Raffles - as is expected, of course. Funny how all of this "broke" after a few of us openly wondered if he was Michael  :LolLolLolLol:

I don't believe in coincidences - but I do believe in Illusionist sleight of hand!
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